I remember seeing these guys like 20 years ago, and what do I remember most? Well, Lake whining some electronic device between his legs to make some god awful racket (but it was great!), then he threw his keyboard off the stage and jumped on it smashing the hell out of it. And I don't mean some small piano but a big mother. Finally, after every song some guy yelling over and over again "Endless Enigma! Endless Enigma!" I'm just glad they didn't wait to long to play it. lol
I got 21 years and this is just so FUCKING AMAZING!!!!!!! this is old as my dad lol :D, am so sad that ppl these days listen to crap music like gaga and kate perry etc... Old school ftw
Yes, Keith Emerson, you are great, but then you weren't any better than Kerry Minnear of Gentle Giant. So, what should you have done? Well, you should have gone out and got yourself at least two more band members. You see, that was the thing about ELP. Indeed, they were great for having only three band members, but often not near as good as a lot of bands who had five. There just at times seemed to be something missing because, well, there was.
@MisterNifty@MisterNifty I'm sorry but I'm slightly suprised you'd even TRY to compare keith emerson to a cheap group of idiots who didn't have nearly enough skill to pull of what they where trying to do (Plus if you ask any keyboardists about their favourite keyboardists they will say emerson but if you ask them about minnear they'll just say "who" and trust me I'm a keyboard player and I know other keyboard players who all agree he's the greatest (him or wakeman that is)
@Frobe1357 ELP went commercial when Lake left King Crimson. Watch some of the live video performances by G Giant. With the five member multi-instrumentalists who played for GGiant, they could bridge back and forth from lead guitar to lead keyboards, alter the beat and play unusual arrangements. Derek Shulman's ability as a multi-instrumentalist allowed the other members to hurry and switch instruments. They were a mind blowing blast during a live performance. Sorry, 5 is better thqan 3
@MisterNifty@MisterNifty No they didn't when greg left king crimson thats when ELP got started up, and gentle giant could never even have attempted to write peices like karn evil 9 or tarkus, and if you're going to talk about live performances then watch the live performances of tarkus, oh yeah and ELP only had two completely commercial albums, they had one rocky album that kicked ass, sorry but skill does not come in numbers and GG prove that, in ELP's hayday no one could touch them.
@Frobe1357 Yet, the drummer from Yes" left at the height of that group's popularity to go to King Crimson. Gee, no one in their right mind would leave K. Crimson as they were considered the pinnacle. Are we talking progressive music here. If so, I'm just arguing it was kind of arrogant of ELP to just have 3 members. They were considering becoming HELP by adding Hendrix. I can't believe anyone considered Gentle Giant as amateurs. Now, they definately weren't commercial.
@MisterNifty At their highest point ELP was considered to be commercial music because it was so popular GG never could have been popular in the prog scene because they didn't have nearly as much skill as ELP or Yes or genesis they wheren't being pretentious by having three members if anything GG where being pretentious by thinking they had much more ability then they genuinly had. and yes we are talking prog music here.
@Frobe1357 I can't believe your response. See, I'm only claiming ELP didn't have enough members. Indeed, I do think that fact is apparent. Each member of Gentle Giant had just as much skill. If you are going to say this about Gentle Giant, what are you going to say about Procol Harum? They were less commercial than Gentle Giant as they enployed a lyricist as a member of the band. In the end, ELP weren't as special as during the period of time of the early seventies they played .
@MisterNifty again whereas Procul Harem had a certain amount of talent, the depth and overall inventiveness of their music just didnt touch ELP. It just was written and played on another level altogether. I suppose whoever sold more or for that matter less records just doesn't matter.
@Frobe1357 I see. I think you view things as a fan whereas I'm more of a critique who sees things from the point of view of a musician. I play the keyboards. What Keith Emerson is doing isn't really knocking my socks off like it would a thirteen year old girl. What Procol Harem managed to do is . . . well, do you even know? I don't even think I should tell you as you have been incredibly disrespectful.
@MisterNifty No I view things from the point of a musician and a fan, that's how I came to the conclusion of ELP, and that's also how I came to my view of Procul Harem and GG, and what do you mean disrespectful they're not a religion by disrespectful you mean not agreeing with you, and if by 13 year old girl you mean damn near every rock keyboardist I know and don't mouth of about being a musician I play keyboards, guitar, bass guitar, drums, various percussion and trombone.
@Frobe1357 The sum of the parts (the group) should supersede the whole of each individual. It is one thing to have a collection of geniuses. But the early seventies was a proliferation of many geniuses. I'm just claiming ELP was lacking a few of them. I can't see how you can argue the point. There was too much arrogance going on in ELP for them to amount to much. It's sort of Keith Emerson and the NICE played a little different.
@MisterNifty And I'm saying they didn't need any more members, I think they where trying to go for a rock equivalent of a jazz trio or it's got the same line up as a jazz trio anyway, and I don't see how being a trio is arrogant, some very skilled and succesful bands where trios: Rush, Cream, Genesis (Phil collins era) and the list goes on.
@MisterNifty And ELP did work together very well. Emerson was the leader & overall creator of their sound using his incredible keyboard skills to make the sound of ELP, Palmer was there driving force using his massive drumming to propel there music and Greg Lake's beautiful songwriting and versatile bass playing managed to hold it all together.
@Frobe1357 Procul Harem were all up front and it don't know if ELP would appreciate them. I know this because I play the keyboards. Get the best of compilation. The organ and piano aren't just back ground with procul Harem as it wasn't just cool special effects, but a guitar player (Robin Trower) and drummer skilled enough who could make room for the piano and organ. Notice how busy those piano and organs bits are in the music? A lot of effort was put into creating their songs.
@MisterNifty No ELP didn't go commercial when lake left, they simply got more succesfull but they definatly stuck to there own sound. And Yes everything you said about GG is true, but ELP's music was entirely keyboard led, and if you have two hands with the incredible speed and versatility of Emerson's then you don't need another two members.
@TheAdolescentCynic I think the progressve rock age kind of did themselves in. Because of the Beatles, all these groups were allowed into the recording studios where they tried impressing each other. They were all cocky as hell. In the end, I think they blew each other away as many monumental, albeit over produced, albums came out during the early seventies. Then the record companies took blondes, called them sluts, and prettied up their voices with a lot of reverb.
@MisterNifty,Check out Palmers snare demo,check out Emersons flying piano....check out Lake's solo on from the begining If you still find something lacking, then look in the mirror, brother, this is the most talentented 3 man band ever. Emerson is a 3rd generation concert pianist, Palmer, in his day laid down more beats on a drumhead than anyone, and Greg Lake was flat awesome. I love many bands, Chicago, Blood Sweat and Tears, a thousand others... but man for man, there are NONE better than ELP
@gotawoody914b I'm not saying ELP wasn't great, but just one of many great bands back during the 70's. The three members of ELP had nothing over the five for Gentle Giant. They could play on the spot. They crafted an album every six months. They were every much as master craftsmen as ELP. I say this as an experienced musician myself in playing the keyboards. ELP tended to sway more towards the sex appeal side while gentle giant relied more on their musical abilities.
@MisterNifty Oh, come on now, it doesn't really matter how many members that your group has, but rather how they actually work together as a group, and these musicians play together much better than most 5 peice groups. And although kerry minnear was certainly no slouch on keys, emerson was simply the best. No one had his style & technical skill and be able to play as many different things in as many different styles as he could.
@TheAdolescentCynic Goto Youtube and listen to Gentle Giant. Every member IS Gentle Giant. ELP is a collection of geniuses. When the group melds together to become greater than the sum of its individual parts, then one has something special going on. Gee, it only takes a few minutes to demonstrate to someone you are a genius who can play an instrument brilliantly. Getting along well with others and learning how to work hard to produce something beyond is more important.
@MisterNifty I am a big Gentle Giant fan, and I agree with what you say. But ELP did manage to work together very well, I'm not going to pretend that they were perfect because they did make some terrible albums, but when they where good, they truly where one of the greatest bands of all time.
@vishiquals. I'm not sure if it was the same show, because "Pictures At An Exhibition", was filmed at different shows, but I do believe "Just Take A Pebble" was this same show. Awesome, wasn't it? I was fortunate to have seen them perform during the "Brain Salad surgery " tour. 1973. Awesome. Quadraphonic sound set up in the small auditorium it was at. Memorable!
i have the pictures at an exhibition DVD but this looks like a different verson as this clip isnt on it..but keith is wearing same silver green suit in my DVD ...
I don't see Punk and ELP as Egotists. I see them as both pushing envelopes, one Politically and one sonically/musically. Both necessary in the Evolution of Sound.
DON'T WATCH THIS VIDEO or you'll be sorely disappointed... the last minute or two of the song, the most exciting part is cut off. Whoever posted this should take it down or put up the entire song to the end! This song is so great that it deserves to be heard in full!
I was about to make the same remark! FFS the second part where they are REALLY building up it suddenly stops, that's like almost having an eargasm, but no quite so pff.
On this video though, i like Palmers drumming alot we need more rhytm and percussion players who are influenced by Jazz and Classical artists IMO.
Modern drumming seems to overrate ppl who can just hit the drums HARD, rather than doing something creative behind the drumset.
What ELP were doing with classical and rock has yet to be developed IMHO.... but there are plenty of contemporary drummers out there who are, like Palmer, adept at complex drumming - Joey Barron comes to mind.
Obviously you are right about that, but there is a porblem here IMO. For an artist to be known he/she should be heard on the mainstream radio aswell not just at live performances. You need an audience, not that i am implying that Joey Barron hasn't got one, just that he may be missing out those(like me) who have stopped listening modern music years ago.
I think big record labels own the radio stations (in general) nowadays. Why should Richard Branson dictate what i must listen to?
they used to rip off a lot of classical bits without paying royalties or giving credit to the composers fianlly mazorskys widow sued em for pictues at an !
@maxinedal His name is Modest Mussorgsky, a 19th century Russian composer who died in 1881. As far as I know, he never married so I think that pretty much rules out the possibility of ELP being sued even if Mussorgsky had a widow don't you think?
WOW!!!! Thanks!!!! I hadn't seen this version!!! Is it included in the 'common' edition DVD or in the special edition they released for their 40th anniversary?
Thanks for uploading this jewel again!!! Much love!!!! ♥
@swaggs Well, this makes me proud of having born in 1971!!!! LOOOL! Though a little bit earlier would have been better... but as i am an Argie, i doubt i would have known of bands like this during that time... i would have missed them and i would have been even more frustrated than not having been a teen during the 70s...
just got the special edition of "pictures" on dvd, and it doesn"t include the barbarian so many thanx for uploading this- i wonder why they didn"t include the whole concert on the dvd?
P.S. No slight intended .ELP set very high standards -all met or exceeded ,but so did King Krimson ,Yes ,Brand X.the original Genesis.I absolutely hated punk when it came out NY Dolls,Pistols,Ramones but now see why they came to be.
A synth is so much more then just an electronic organ/keyboard and gimmick machine. There is a reason why 30 years on their krautrock contemporaries still get a well deserved mention as an influence and ELP don't.
First of all, they were not trying to play standard classical music. If thats what you want, then just listen to the artist that you are referring to. ELP was one of the first true fusion bands. If you dont know what the word fusion means, then my response is meaningless.
The punks hated ELP for turning rock n roll into something overblown and self-indulgent instead of something that connected directly with young peoples lives. There is all this praise for the apparent musicianship of ELP, but if you want a keyboard player who really can play then listen to Richter, or Pollini. With ELP you get a bit of rock showmanship, sub-classical musical performance overlaid with pretentious lyrics. I thought they were great, UNTIL I listened to real classical music.
I see why punks hated these guys too. They produce something that almost all punk bands don't. The ability to play their instruments. Oh yeah and knowledge of music and feeling. Yeah I can really see your point. Unfortunately this day and age that stuff is no longer important as long as you look good and have some good luck that's all you need.
the piece is by Bartok..allegro barbaro....he wrote it 70 years before ELP did this wicked and cool version that of course did pander to the hard rock sensibility....i somehow think Bartok would have been thrilled none the less.....It rocked my world as a teenager and still does 30 years later.These guys were fearless and peaked far too early.
@478493 I recall in the early 70's when I started taking piano lessons. I was a rock guy who knew very little about classical music. My teacher was a young guy who knew very little about rock. As we got to know each other on our first lesson he asked me what I was listening to and I mentioned ELP. Suddenly he got up, pulled out some music. Sit it up on the piano and started playing what I knew as 'The Barbarian'. He filled me in on the real composer.
This cut of music is as advertised "Barbaric". Funny how the Rolling Stones played 3 chords in different patterens and are called music gods... and here are 3 truely talented musicians who really get a bad rap because they played something worth hearing. Imagine,3 guys making so much sound. AWESOME
@Weasler455 It's probably intentional. That's one thing about music or any other art form. There is always someone bending or breaking an accepted way of doing things. Look at the heresy of playing a bass guitar with a pick. Jack Bruce has repeatedly called Chris Squire a hack. which is utter nonesense. Squire in my book is right up there with Bruce and Entwhistle, I wonder what Bruce would say about Tony Levin's metal finger extentions.
@Weasler455 As far as I know Lake always has used a pick. Legend has it that Robert Fripp wanted Lake as his vocalist for King Crimson but he didn't want a second guitarist. So he taught him bass. I had heard that Fripp also taught Boz Burrell bass. Mike Rutherford also is a pick player
@Xanaseb Rutherford is a fantastic bass player as well as a great 12 atring and lead player, but when it comes to the bass guitar nobody could ever touch Jaco Pastorius. Before him, fretless bass in Rock was unheard of. He was the Hendrix of bass guitar.
@awesome4u1010 yeah the stones and dylan and neil young and lou reed and john lennon were able to write the best songs of all time with 3 chords as oppossed to a band of wankers who had to do classical covers and not good ones at that,, Copland hated their version of "fanfare " but then again you probably thought that was an original
@mugwamp4 - who gives a shit what Copeland thinks! Fairplay to ELP for covering that piece - even though it's much later than this and they were way past their peak (ie - the time of this video)
I've just read a book by Klemperer and he echoes my thoughts on American composers - you can't compare them to people like Bartok and Prokofiev - it's a different league (sincere apologies to Americans but I have to speak my mind)
ELP mean more to me (and a lot of people) than Copeland ever will.
@NeilThompson30 who gives a shit what Klemperer thinks ! if i want a comment from the cast of Hogan's Heroes i'll ask Sgt Shultz , whats thats got to do with ELP's cover of FFTCM anyway.,I think the composer has a right to express his opinion on someones version of his music.dont get me wrong i dont hate ELP,,have a couple of albums just dont find them as interesting as Genesis...Yes...king crimson too many instrumentals...
@mugwamp4 - fair comment - when I was a kid I loved Genesis but didn't like Yes - quite liked King Crimson and ELP but wouldn't buy their albums blah blah blah. At the start of the 90s I started buying this stuff on reissue vinyl and I just loved them all - I can't see the point of picking certain bands out and saying this one was better than that one. They were all great in their own right cause it was just a brilliant time for music - don't you agree?
This is a combination between blues rock classical and pop its amazing the generas elp puts into 1 song which is why ELP is one of the best bands to ever set foot on a stage it satisfies all musical cravings and is simply genius
To play Bela Bartoks " Allegro Barbaro" correct in that speed, you have to practise a long time. A very long time. Emerson is a genius. I'm sure, lot of professional piano players are not able to play this extremely difficult piece correct.
In late 1996, I dove head first into ELP thanks to a friend lending me his Atlantic Years cassette which led me to buying Brain Salad Surgery then he gave me his copy of ELPowell (great album though Carl Palmer wasn't there but Cozy Powell kicked ass also) then heard the Return Of the Manticore box set, I was sold on ELP and bought every last album there was available. By 1997 they (along with Genesis) joined Pink Floyd, Rush and Queen as my Top 10 Favorite Bands of All Time.
@cafinario It wasn't that punks hated ELP -it was the pretense of virtuosity that Cream set in play & had been consumed by ultimately which the punks saw as a threat to the survival of the peoples music,rock & roll.The punks actually saved the art form from extinction by de constructing it.
@cafinario - Punks didn't hate ELP - they hated the Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd and Rod Stewart. I love punk and I love ELP - people get the wrong idea about punk players - a lot of them were out of tune, true - but a lot of them were great players - for example Captain Sensible - just ask Robert Fripp.
@NeilThompson30 - uh, yes punks then did hate ELP and all prog and fusion in general. johnny rotten wore a shirt back then that that said I HATE and then listed all the groups he hated and ELP was one of them, along with pink floyd, Yes,
un temaso de elp tokan re sarpado estos temas que tienen cierto encanto para el que sabe algo de musica ... arriba la musica
facundo cristaldo de grand bourg ARGENTINA
IIZamerathII 1 week ago
Bartók Béla
iborsi10 2 weeks ago
I think I had a shirt like Greg's. Never anything like Keith's outfit. And Carl still looks good today.
rmtmiller 1 month ago
FUZZ BASS!!!!!
sabbathmc97 2 months ago
Queste cose mi mandano in TILT! ... Gesù, che MU-SI-CA!!... Béla Bartróck Forever!!! %-)
VertigoHarvest 3 months ago
seen them about 33 years ago out doors in sc unreal one of the best shows i've been to and I went to a lot
MrDJBorges 3 months ago
I remember seeing these guys like 20 years ago, and what do I remember most? Well, Lake whining some electronic device between his legs to make some god awful racket (but it was great!), then he threw his keyboard off the stage and jumped on it smashing the hell out of it. And I don't mean some small piano but a big mother. Finally, after every song some guy yelling over and over again "Endless Enigma! Endless Enigma!" I'm just glad they didn't wait to long to play it. lol
probrojeffro 3 months ago
This is brilliant - love 2:42 ;-)
NgaioU 4 months ago
i know they're heavy but i feel like crying... seriously... too good to be true.
davesantos 5 months ago
I got 21 years and this is just so FUCKING AMAZING!!!!!!! this is old as my dad lol :D, am so sad that ppl these days listen to crap music like gaga and kate perry etc... Old school ftw
ExHornyAnubis 5 months ago
It's my band # 1 in progressive rock !!!
ivaa7777JAWA 6 months ago
Igen, ez a Bartók Béla tényleg zseniális volt!
kerecseny1 6 months ago 2
bad fucking ass
MrLewisFloydHenry 6 months ago
Great version of this classic. I think I last saw ELP in 1971...first in 1970 in Offenbach am Main, Germany. Orange Sunshine, LOL.
suzys11 6 months ago
This is almost too epic.
randyscousegit 7 months ago
Yes, Keith Emerson, you are great, but then you weren't any better than Kerry Minnear of Gentle Giant. So, what should you have done? Well, you should have gone out and got yourself at least two more band members. You see, that was the thing about ELP. Indeed, they were great for having only three band members, but often not near as good as a lot of bands who had five. There just at times seemed to be something missing because, well, there was.
MisterNifty 7 months ago
@MisterNifty @MisterNifty I'm sorry but I'm slightly suprised you'd even TRY to compare keith emerson to a cheap group of idiots who didn't have nearly enough skill to pull of what they where trying to do (Plus if you ask any keyboardists about their favourite keyboardists they will say emerson but if you ask them about minnear they'll just say "who" and trust me I'm a keyboard player and I know other keyboard players who all agree he's the greatest (him or wakeman that is)
Frobe1357 6 months ago
@Frobe1357 ELP went commercial when Lake left King Crimson. Watch some of the live video performances by G Giant. With the five member multi-instrumentalists who played for GGiant, they could bridge back and forth from lead guitar to lead keyboards, alter the beat and play unusual arrangements. Derek Shulman's ability as a multi-instrumentalist allowed the other members to hurry and switch instruments. They were a mind blowing blast during a live performance. Sorry, 5 is better thqan 3
MisterNifty 6 months ago
@MisterNifty @MisterNifty No they didn't when greg left king crimson thats when ELP got started up, and gentle giant could never even have attempted to write peices like karn evil 9 or tarkus, and if you're going to talk about live performances then watch the live performances of tarkus, oh yeah and ELP only had two completely commercial albums, they had one rocky album that kicked ass, sorry but skill does not come in numbers and GG prove that, in ELP's hayday no one could touch them.
Frobe1357 6 months ago
@Frobe1357 Yet, the drummer from Yes" left at the height of that group's popularity to go to King Crimson. Gee, no one in their right mind would leave K. Crimson as they were considered the pinnacle. Are we talking progressive music here. If so, I'm just arguing it was kind of arrogant of ELP to just have 3 members. They were considering becoming HELP by adding Hendrix. I can't believe anyone considered Gentle Giant as amateurs. Now, they definately weren't commercial.
MisterNifty 6 months ago
@MisterNifty At their highest point ELP was considered to be commercial music because it was so popular GG never could have been popular in the prog scene because they didn't have nearly as much skill as ELP or Yes or genesis they wheren't being pretentious by having three members if anything GG where being pretentious by thinking they had much more ability then they genuinly had. and yes we are talking prog music here.
Frobe1357 6 months ago
@Frobe1357 I can't believe your response. See, I'm only claiming ELP didn't have enough members. Indeed, I do think that fact is apparent. Each member of Gentle Giant had just as much skill. If you are going to say this about Gentle Giant, what are you going to say about Procol Harum? They were less commercial than Gentle Giant as they enployed a lyricist as a member of the band. In the end, ELP weren't as special as during the period of time of the early seventies they played .
MisterNifty 6 months ago
@MisterNifty again whereas Procul Harem had a certain amount of talent, the depth and overall inventiveness of their music just didnt touch ELP. It just was written and played on another level altogether. I suppose whoever sold more or for that matter less records just doesn't matter.
Frobe1357 6 months ago
@Frobe1357 I see. I think you view things as a fan whereas I'm more of a critique who sees things from the point of view of a musician. I play the keyboards. What Keith Emerson is doing isn't really knocking my socks off like it would a thirteen year old girl. What Procol Harem managed to do is . . . well, do you even know? I don't even think I should tell you as you have been incredibly disrespectful.
MisterNifty 6 months ago
@MisterNifty No I view things from the point of a musician and a fan, that's how I came to the conclusion of ELP, and that's also how I came to my view of Procul Harem and GG, and what do you mean disrespectful they're not a religion by disrespectful you mean not agreeing with you, and if by 13 year old girl you mean damn near every rock keyboardist I know and don't mouth of about being a musician I play keyboards, guitar, bass guitar, drums, various percussion and trombone.
Frobe1357 6 months ago
@Frobe1357 The sum of the parts (the group) should supersede the whole of each individual. It is one thing to have a collection of geniuses. But the early seventies was a proliferation of many geniuses. I'm just claiming ELP was lacking a few of them. I can't see how you can argue the point. There was too much arrogance going on in ELP for them to amount to much. It's sort of Keith Emerson and the NICE played a little different.
MisterNifty 6 months ago
@MisterNifty And I'm saying they didn't need any more members, I think they where trying to go for a rock equivalent of a jazz trio or it's got the same line up as a jazz trio anyway, and I don't see how being a trio is arrogant, some very skilled and succesful bands where trios: Rush, Cream, Genesis (Phil collins era) and the list goes on.
Frobe1357 6 months ago
@MisterNifty The most the nice come to sound like ELP is Emerson's hammond organ.
And if ELP where lacking in members then you do in a 6 peice what ELP did in a 3 peice. Karn Evil 9 has more key changes than your average symphony.
TheAdolescentCynic 4 days ago
@MisterNifty And ELP did work together very well. Emerson was the leader & overall creator of their sound using his incredible keyboard skills to make the sound of ELP, Palmer was there driving force using his massive drumming to propel there music and Greg Lake's beautiful songwriting and versatile bass playing managed to hold it all together.
TheAdolescentCynic 4 days ago
@Frobe1357 Procul Harem were all up front and it don't know if ELP would appreciate them. I know this because I play the keyboards. Get the best of compilation. The organ and piano aren't just back ground with procul Harem as it wasn't just cool special effects, but a guitar player (Robin Trower) and drummer skilled enough who could make room for the piano and organ. Notice how busy those piano and organs bits are in the music? A lot of effort was put into creating their songs.
MisterNifty 1 day ago
@MisterNifty Just refer to my last point for an argument against there apparant "arrogance".
TheAdolescentCynic 4 days ago
@MisterNifty No ELP didn't go commercial when lake left, they simply got more succesfull but they definatly stuck to there own sound. And Yes everything you said about GG is true, but ELP's music was entirely keyboard led, and if you have two hands with the incredible speed and versatility of Emerson's then you don't need another two members.
TheAdolescentCynic 4 days ago
@TheAdolescentCynic I think the progressve rock age kind of did themselves in. Because of the Beatles, all these groups were allowed into the recording studios where they tried impressing each other. They were all cocky as hell. In the end, I think they blew each other away as many monumental, albeit over produced, albums came out during the early seventies. Then the record companies took blondes, called them sluts, and prettied up their voices with a lot of reverb.
MisterNifty 1 day ago
@MisterNifty,Check out Palmers snare demo,check out Emersons flying piano....check out Lake's solo on from the begining If you still find something lacking, then look in the mirror, brother, this is the most talentented 3 man band ever. Emerson is a 3rd generation concert pianist, Palmer, in his day laid down more beats on a drumhead than anyone, and Greg Lake was flat awesome. I love many bands, Chicago, Blood Sweat and Tears, a thousand others... but man for man, there are NONE better than ELP
gotawoody914b 6 months ago
@gotawoody914b I'm not saying ELP wasn't great, but just one of many great bands back during the 70's. The three members of ELP had nothing over the five for Gentle Giant. They could play on the spot. They crafted an album every six months. They were every much as master craftsmen as ELP. I say this as an experienced musician myself in playing the keyboards. ELP tended to sway more towards the sex appeal side while gentle giant relied more on their musical abilities.
MisterNifty 6 months ago
@MisterNifty Oh, come on now, it doesn't really matter how many members that your group has, but rather how they actually work together as a group, and these musicians play together much better than most 5 peice groups. And although kerry minnear was certainly no slouch on keys, emerson was simply the best. No one had his style & technical skill and be able to play as many different things in as many different styles as he could.
TheAdolescentCynic 5 days ago
@TheAdolescentCynic Goto Youtube and listen to Gentle Giant. Every member IS Gentle Giant. ELP is a collection of geniuses. When the group melds together to become greater than the sum of its individual parts, then one has something special going on. Gee, it only takes a few minutes to demonstrate to someone you are a genius who can play an instrument brilliantly. Getting along well with others and learning how to work hard to produce something beyond is more important.
MisterNifty 1 day ago
@MisterNifty I am a big Gentle Giant fan, and I agree with what you say. But ELP did manage to work together very well, I'm not going to pretend that they were perfect because they did make some terrible albums, but when they where good, they truly where one of the greatest bands of all time.
TheAdolescentCynic 1 day ago
@vishiquals. I'm not sure if it was the same show, because "Pictures At An Exhibition", was filmed at different shows, but I do believe "Just Take A Pebble" was this same show. Awesome, wasn't it? I was fortunate to have seen them perform during the "Brain Salad surgery " tour. 1973. Awesome. Quadraphonic sound set up in the small auditorium it was at. Memorable!
arklat 8 months ago
3:46 - EPIC snare roll.
jode72 8 months ago
Please, someone answer, did they peformed Take a Pebble at this same show?
josearcanjof 8 months ago
@josearcanjof Yeah, but recordings of it were spliced together from other shows.
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rmtmiller 8 months ago
I'm having visions of Genghis Kahn and Attilla the Hun.
swampyD1000 10 months ago
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rmtmiller 8 months ago
I absolutely LOVE THIS!!
bustballz 10 months ago
Keith was really crazy. Mussorgsky and ELP rock!
pearljamania 11 months ago
Fantastic..! ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙
BV7814 11 months ago
Total bad asses
Hammerofthegods86 11 months ago
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I FINALLY FOUND some TEENAGE Carl Palmer! Great Footage of him with Arthur Brown! It wasn't even labeled properly!
you tube. com / watch?v=3FmVM6rfTKk
TouchingYou 1 year ago
I want my ELP!
annikee59 1 year ago
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grantorinoProg 1 year ago
i have the pictures at an exhibition DVD but this looks like a different verson as this clip isnt on it..but keith is wearing same silver green suit in my DVD ...
radicalsystems 1 year ago
it would be better without 35 seconds of self-congratulatory intro.
TheFearlessFreep 1 year ago
Ahhhh, estaba a punto de correrme en el minuto 4:47. Qué injusticia!!
txikilin 1 year ago
This is Bela Bartok, a hungaryan music composer.
kovakoe 1 year ago
@kovakoe - what part of this is Bela Bartok?
NeilThompson30 11 months ago
@NeilThompson30
Listen Bartók Allegro Barbaro and you find it!
kovakoe 11 months ago
@kovakoe - fairplay mate - I never knew this part was by Bartok - just listened to it.
NeilThompson30 11 months ago
@NeilThompson30
Ok
kovakoe 11 months ago
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@NeilThompson30
OK
kovakoe 11 months ago
beatles, rolling stones, blues, and ELP, that is forever
vzmirek 1 year ago
@vzmirek check out The Yes, Gentle Giant... and Jetrho Tull if you still didnt :)
CrazyVuki 1 year ago
Visited Many A Distant Universe Spanning an Endless Dimension of Time and Space.
holzg01 1 year ago
here we go again no audio. assholes!
billford1961 1 year ago
MASTER KEITH EMERSON!
khashayar44 1 year ago
The 1st trill on bassing of Lake is still my favour.
zsobrak 1 year ago
I don't see Punk and ELP as Egotists. I see them as both pushing envelopes, one Politically and one sonically/musically. Both necessary in the Evolution of Sound.
Thetaloops 1 year ago 9
@Thetaloops Well said and I agree 100%.
swaggs 4 months ago
@Thetaloops interesting comment. Quite easy to push an envelope,, but know what you mean. Regards, JL
Jlipnicki 3 weeks ago
That was just Emerson and Palmer.....where's Lake? :(
TheBellaemmamom 1 year ago
@TheBellaemmamom he's playing bass...
BennyGaberMusic 1 year ago
@BennyGaberMusic Yeah but they hardly show him on here.
TheBellaemmamom 1 year ago
@TheBellaemmamom indeed were the f*ck is lake i wanna see him play the epic heavy sound on his bass =|
joost1795 1 year ago
Keith's hair is shaggadillic
stewbee123 1 year ago
Hiába, Bartók egy zseni volt!
Kár, hogy nem írták ki a nevét Emersonék! Igy egy picinykét pofátlanság csak Barbároknak nevezni ezt a feldolgozást!
kerecseny1 1 year ago
DON'T WATCH THIS VIDEO or you'll be sorely disappointed... the last minute or two of the song, the most exciting part is cut off. Whoever posted this should take it down or put up the entire song to the end! This song is so great that it deserves to be heard in full!
blainesnow 1 year ago
@blainesnow
I was about to make the same remark! FFS the second part where they are REALLY building up it suddenly stops, that's like almost having an eargasm, but no quite so pff.
On this video though, i like Palmers drumming alot we need more rhytm and percussion players who are influenced by Jazz and Classical artists IMO.
Modern drumming seems to overrate ppl who can just hit the drums HARD, rather than doing something creative behind the drumset.
GreedyNoobLike 1 year ago
@GreedyNoobLike
What ELP were doing with classical and rock has yet to be developed IMHO.... but there are plenty of contemporary drummers out there who are, like Palmer, adept at complex drumming - Joey Barron comes to mind.
blainesnow 1 year ago
@blainesnow
Obviously you are right about that, but there is a porblem here IMO. For an artist to be known he/she should be heard on the mainstream radio aswell not just at live performances. You need an audience, not that i am implying that Joey Barron hasn't got one, just that he may be missing out those(like me) who have stopped listening modern music years ago.
I think big record labels own the radio stations (in general) nowadays. Why should Richard Branson dictate what i must listen to?
GreedyNoobLike 1 year ago
da perdere i sensi!
HipHopWLD 1 year ago
My most favourite ELP track of all time, studio version of course...
..was the 1st album their best...? some people think it is...a purity about it i think
Zapple03 1 year ago
this is so FUCKEN BADASS!!!
bustballz 1 year ago
they used to rip off a lot of classical bits without paying royalties or giving credit to the composers fianlly mazorskys widow sued em for pictues at an !
maxinedal 1 year ago
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randy63ism 1 year ago
@maxinedal His name is Modest Mussorgsky, a 19th century Russian composer who died in 1881. As far as I know, he never married so I think that pretty much rules out the possibility of ELP being sued even if Mussorgsky had a widow don't you think?
randy63ism 1 year ago
Bartòk - Allegro Barbaro...cool version
FaustinoilMostro 1 year ago
Ohh how i love that distorted bass this song sounds so much better live than on album
atgskater14 1 year ago
this is educated music!!,,these boneheads today cant do this.
uiwqe 1 year ago
I like long hair
it goes well with giving everything you have to the music
they were awfully cute too!
ben909ben 1 year ago
Awesome!
Dannymusic1999 1 year ago
WOW!!!! Thanks!!!! I hadn't seen this version!!! Is it included in the 'common' edition DVD or in the special edition they released for their 40th anniversary?
Thanks for uploading this jewel again!!! Much love!!!! ♥
sigelflower 1 year ago
...punks dont like this??!! ...this is real PUNK MUSIC!! gorgeous ELP!
13asdediamantes 1 year ago
This music just is improvization.
The original music is Allegro Barbaro from Bela Bartok !
kerecseny1 1 year ago
Years ago I bought tarkus and I liked the nice but I just can't sit through this now. It's just so self indulgent and meandering.
skceps 1 year ago
ULTRA VINTAGE ELP<<<
mikey1829 1 year ago
ELP at the best, live and raw. Music like this makes me proud to have been alive in the 70's.
swaggs 1 year ago 11
@swaggs Well, this makes me proud of having born in 1971!!!! LOOOL! Though a little bit earlier would have been better... but as i am an Argie, i doubt i would have known of bands like this during that time... i would have missed them and i would have been even more frustrated than not having been a teen during the 70s...
sigelflower 1 year ago
@swaggs im not proud being alive in 2011
lukuntri 8 months ago
just got the special edition of "pictures" on dvd, and it doesn"t include the barbarian so many thanx for uploading this- i wonder why they didn"t include the whole concert on the dvd?
MothershipOracle 1 year ago
Wow, that's a nice bass sound.
obscurebandfan 1 year ago
Why did the punk rockers hate the prog rock? THey were way better than punk music...not doubt about that
rocker70sman 1 year ago
if i want to listen to long winded prog rock ill take Genesis anyday over elp.yes etc
at least they had a singer and musicians who knew how to write a fuckin song...if i want to listen to classical works ill try an orchestra thanks
mugwamp4 1 year ago
@mugwamp4 then take your useless comments to those boards
rugbyfan999 1 year ago
hah, I played Allegro barbaro by Bartok last semester in college....cool to see their version of it.
TheLoneSergeant 1 year ago
Long live Prog Rock. Death to Punk Rock! Punk is just a bunch of kindagartners who don't how to play a frickin' instruments.
zacharynathanson2003 1 year ago
@zacharynathanson2003 well at least they may be able to spell
mugwamp4 1 year ago
Carl PALMER KICKS SERIOUS ASS!!
bustballz 1 year ago
@bustballz seriously sucks ass
mugwamp4 1 year ago
@mugwamp4 so does your mother but who's complaining? She sucked a huge turn right out of my bunghole just yesterday.....
TheMarchon1 1 year ago
@TheMarchon1 come on everyone knows your a turd sucker why would you share!
mugwamp4 1 year ago
derrruuuuggss.
gothos1000 1 year ago
P.S. No slight intended .ELP set very high standards -all met or exceeded ,but so did King Krimson ,Yes ,Brand X.the original Genesis.I absolutely hated punk when it came out NY Dolls,Pistols,Ramones but now see why they came to be.
TumbrelJockey 1 year ago
how could these all have been in their minds ? where are these lads from ?
nikolas2778 1 year ago
they were the best
bustballz 1 year ago
A synth is so much more then just an electronic organ/keyboard and gimmick machine. There is a reason why 30 years on their krautrock contemporaries still get a well deserved mention as an influence and ELP don't.
AirCrashBureau 1 year ago
Couldn't even upload the entire song :(
Tremblay343 1 year ago
Atomic Rooster-King Crimson-Nice=ELP. Great Band before they ran out of steam.
Saw them in 73-74 memory a little hazy.
Welcome to the Show!!!
Didn't like Classical music until Keith showed me how.
Long live Prog.
glennw53 1 year ago
First of all, they were not trying to play standard classical music. If thats what you want, then just listen to the artist that you are referring to. ELP was one of the first true fusion bands. If you dont know what the word fusion means, then my response is meaningless.
stcroixmusic 1 year ago
The punks hated ELP for turning rock n roll into something overblown and self-indulgent instead of something that connected directly with young peoples lives. There is all this praise for the apparent musicianship of ELP, but if you want a keyboard player who really can play then listen to Richter, or Pollini. With ELP you get a bit of rock showmanship, sub-classical musical performance overlaid with pretentious lyrics. I thought they were great, UNTIL I listened to real classical music.
queerina 1 year ago
I see why punks hated these guys too. They produce something that almost all punk bands don't. The ability to play their instruments. Oh yeah and knowledge of music and feeling. Yeah I can really see your point. Unfortunately this day and age that stuff is no longer important as long as you look good and have some good luck that's all you need.
Moneyshotm 1 year ago
interruptus
skirmish703 1 year ago
What a shame this cuts off before the end
westpalmscott 1 year ago
the piece is by Bartok..allegro barbaro....he wrote it 70 years before ELP did this wicked and cool version that of course did pander to the hard rock sensibility....i somehow think Bartok would have been thrilled none the less.....It rocked my world as a teenager and still does 30 years later.These guys were fearless and peaked far too early.
478493 1 year ago 17
@478493 Copeland loved Emerson's take on his work
westpalmscott 1 year ago
@westpalmscott ahh yes...the old "Fanfare for the Common Man" and "Hoedown".
478493 1 year ago
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@westpalmscott ahh yes...the old "Fanfare for the Common Man" and "Hoedown".
478493 1 year ago
@478493 I recall in the early 70's when I started taking piano lessons. I was a rock guy who knew very little about classical music. My teacher was a young guy who knew very little about rock. As we got to know each other on our first lesson he asked me what I was listening to and I mentioned ELP. Suddenly he got up, pulled out some music. Sit it up on the piano and started playing what I knew as 'The Barbarian'. He filled me in on the real composer.
pedroV2003 1 year ago
ALLEGRO BARBARO YEAAAAAAH
Twonez 1 year ago
This cut of music is as advertised "Barbaric". Funny how the Rolling Stones played 3 chords in different patterens and are called music gods... and here are 3 truely talented musicians who really get a bad rap because they played something worth hearing. Imagine,3 guys making so much sound. AWESOME
awesome4u1010 1 year ago
@awesome4u1010 Absolutely! And the Rolling Stones are a great
example. They're good in their own way, but they are simplistic.
Charlie Watts, for instance, doesn't even play the basic Straight 8
beat correctly!
Weasler455 1 year ago
@Weasler455 Watts is no slouch. He was a seasoned jazz drummer at a very early age before joining the Stones
westpalmscott 1 year ago
@westpalmscott OK, I'm not arguing that point. And he is very
consistent. But watch films of him playing and you'll see what I mean
about the standard "straight eight" beat. When he hits the snare every
fourth beat, he fails to the cymbal or high-hat. The correct way is to hit
both at the same time. I know of no other drummer who does this.
Weasler455 1 year ago
@Weasler455 It's probably intentional. That's one thing about music or any other art form. There is always someone bending or breaking an accepted way of doing things. Look at the heresy of playing a bass guitar with a pick. Jack Bruce has repeatedly called Chris Squire a hack. which is utter nonesense. Squire in my book is right up there with Bruce and Entwhistle, I wonder what Bruce would say about Tony Levin's metal finger extentions.
westpalmscott 1 year ago
@westpalmscott Perhaps it is intentional - you might be right.
Though I couldn't imagine why.
I thought Lake uses a pick on the bass sometimes, doesn't he?
Weasler455 1 year ago
@Weasler455 As far as I know Lake always has used a pick. Legend has it that Robert Fripp wanted Lake as his vocalist for King Crimson but he didn't want a second guitarist. So he taught him bass. I had heard that Fripp also taught Boz Burrell bass. Mike Rutherford also is a pick player
westpalmscott 1 year ago
@westpalmscott Rutherford Rules!!!
Xanaseb 1 year ago
@Xanaseb Rutherford is a fantastic bass player as well as a great 12 atring and lead player, but when it comes to the bass guitar nobody could ever touch Jaco Pastorius. Before him, fretless bass in Rock was unheard of. He was the Hendrix of bass guitar.
westpalmscott 1 year ago
@westpalmscott Yeah I knew that. Of course :)
Xanaseb 1 year ago
@westpalmscott John Entwistle used a pick too sometimes, as did many other great bassplayers, it makes some riffs just sound better
lololiet 1 year ago
Jack Bruce must be jealous of Squire's big hands.
NilezII 1 year ago
@Weasler455 oh yeah!.. and they've been so unsuccessful because Charlie cant play a straight eight
mugwamp4 1 year ago
@mugwamp4 If you read all my comments, you would note that I
was not saying Watts or the Stones were bad. I was just pointing
out a fact about him. Cool your jets, OK?
Weasler455 1 year ago
@awesome4u1010 yeah the stones and dylan and neil young and lou reed and john lennon were able to write the best songs of all time with 3 chords as oppossed to a band of wankers who had to do classical covers and not good ones at that,, Copland hated their version of "fanfare " but then again you probably thought that was an original
mugwamp4 1 year ago
@mugwamp4 - who gives a shit what Copeland thinks! Fairplay to ELP for covering that piece - even though it's much later than this and they were way past their peak (ie - the time of this video)
I've just read a book by Klemperer and he echoes my thoughts on American composers - you can't compare them to people like Bartok and Prokofiev - it's a different league (sincere apologies to Americans but I have to speak my mind)
ELP mean more to me (and a lot of people) than Copeland ever will.
NeilThompson30 1 year ago
@NeilThompson30 who gives a shit what Klemperer thinks ! if i want a comment from the cast of Hogan's Heroes i'll ask Sgt Shultz , whats thats got to do with ELP's cover of FFTCM anyway.,I think the composer has a right to express his opinion on someones version of his music.dont get me wrong i dont hate ELP,,have a couple of albums just dont find them as interesting as Genesis...Yes...king crimson too many instrumentals...
mugwamp4 1 year ago
@mugwamp4 - fair comment - when I was a kid I loved Genesis but didn't like Yes - quite liked King Crimson and ELP but wouldn't buy their albums blah blah blah. At the start of the 90s I started buying this stuff on reissue vinyl and I just loved them all - I can't see the point of picking certain bands out and saying this one was better than that one. They were all great in their own right cause it was just a brilliant time for music - don't you agree?
NeilThompson30 1 year ago
@NeilThompson30 absolutely !!..........still think Genesis were better
mugwamp4 1 year ago
best keyboardist ever I tell you!
SolidXHead 1 year ago
This is a combination between blues rock classical and pop its amazing the generas elp puts into 1 song which is why ELP is one of the best bands to ever set foot on a stage it satisfies all musical cravings and is simply genius
atgskater14 2 years ago
EDIT: Genres
atgskater14 2 years ago
man greg lake is a great bassist not the best (john entwistle was R.I.P 10/9/44 to 6/27/02) but he certainly is great
atgskater14 2 years ago
@atgskater14 John Entwistle? Not nearly as talented as Lake.
Weasler455 1 year ago
@Weasler455 at the bass guitar theres no arguing with that
atgskater14 1 year ago
To play Bela Bartoks " Allegro Barbaro" correct in that speed, you have to practise a long time. A very long time. Emerson is a genius. I'm sure, lot of professional piano players are not able to play this extremely difficult piece correct.
progmeck1 2 years ago
This is just pure genious. ... a la Bartok of course...
phantomfigure 2 years ago 3
@phantomfigure
Yeah, Bartók Béla 4 ever, ELP 4 ever
brandistocker 2 years ago
does any of you twits have any idea of classic stuff?????
setmenue 2 years ago
In late 1996, I dove head first into ELP thanks to a friend lending me his Atlantic Years cassette which led me to buying Brain Salad Surgery then he gave me his copy of ELPowell (great album though Carl Palmer wasn't there but Cozy Powell kicked ass also) then heard the Return Of the Manticore box set, I was sold on ELP and bought every last album there was available. By 1997 they (along with Genesis) joined Pink Floyd, Rush and Queen as my Top 10 Favorite Bands of All Time.
floydgenesisnut 2 years ago 3
I see why punks hated ELP: even if given 10 lives, they would never play like this.
cafinario 2 years ago 54
@cafinario because they don't want to, not because they cant (although most ofthem probably cant) still, your reasoning is biased
Egondv 2 years ago
Actually, lots of punks would like this (and probably owned this record). It the bloated 1976 ELP that got them riled up.
CatapultYourMom 2 years ago
@cafinario Very, very true.
Weasler455 1 year ago
@cafinario It wasn't that punks hated ELP -it was the pretense of virtuosity that Cream set in play & had been consumed by ultimately which the punks saw as a threat to the survival of the peoples music,rock & roll.The punks actually saved the art form from extinction by de constructing it.
TumbrelJockey 1 year ago
@cafinario yeah I can see why ..... pretentious bollocks and i hate drummers who plaster their name over over the kick drum,,,,,
mugwamp4 1 year ago
@cafinario - Punks didn't hate ELP - they hated the Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd and Rod Stewart. I love punk and I love ELP - people get the wrong idea about punk players - a lot of them were out of tune, true - but a lot of them were great players - for example Captain Sensible - just ask Robert Fripp.
NeilThompson30 1 year ago
@NeilThompson30 - uh, yes punks then did hate ELP and all prog and fusion in general. johnny rotten wore a shirt back then that that said I HATE and then listed all the groups he hated and ELP was one of them, along with pink floyd, Yes,