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  • Why is it not a balk

  • @Shamless99 A pitcher can fake a throw to 2nd or 3rd without it being a balk.

  • @Shamless99 Because you don't have to pick off to second, you can spin and not throw the ball, first is the only base you have to throw to when you pick (unless you step off first).

  • Dumb base running. you should never make the last out at 3rd

  • @MrShootducks Yes, on top of that, why would you even think to run if you can't see the ball...

  • @nucifubuc8 should have dove back and automatically looked to the outfield for the ball. Hope he learned from it though

  • My summer league team pulled this play off when I was 15 or 16. We actually practiced it for a while and did this exact same thing and got the guy out.

  • Terrible baserunning...when you slide back you automatically look for the ball...and even if you did go, you pick up the coach who should be telling you to go back...busch

  • Isn't that a balk.

  • @TheWaver22 nope, not if you step off behind the rubber

  • My little league team pulled this off.. Greatest little league moment GOT HEEEEM

  • So for those who don't play baseball can someone explain this without the jargon. I understand the basic concept but at the end wouldn't the pitcher who didn't throw it throw it to the guys behind him cause the player has run to the next base?

  • @michaeltbear They have to tag him with the ball to get him out. If he reaches the next base without being tagged with the ball, he's safe. Therefore, they throw it where he is going so he can't get there without being tagged.

  • GOT HEEEEEEEEEEM!!!

  • The protestation that it's not a balk is wrong. It is a balk. That inside move cannot be done in that way, whether you actually throw it or not. The only reason you didn't get called on it is because the umpires would have to explain why they called a balk on a non-throw to second, when that isn't even the issue. All they did was avoid an argument. Balk.

  • @TomKaren94 wrong.  so wrong.

  • @rmizeelectric Not wrong. The first move the pitcher makes is cocking the left knee while raising his left elbow 0:04. Can't do that with the knee to raise the front foot as the first motion on the inside move, period. I've seen this move a thousand times over the years, and discussed it at length with umps at all levels. You cannot make the inside move to second like this kid did, no matter how much anyone claims you can. Whether it's called or not is immaterial. It's still a balk.

  • @TomKaren94 okay your right! the umps have just been feeling lazy for the last few years and don't call it so they don't have to explain themselves... hahahahaha

  • @rmizeelectric Would you want to get into this argument at that level when the other manager won't give you grief if you don't call it? There's only three explanations: The umps chronically do not know the rule; The umps chronically miss the call; The umps want to avoid the argument. So which is it? There is no fourth option, because it "not" being a balk is not correct.

  • @TomKaren94 Or, explanation 4: the "umpires" that you talked to have never seen/heard of a traditional spin-move pick-off (it's pretty basic). The rules are the rules, umps don't miss calls on purpose in fear of starting an argument... c'mon now, that's a ridiculous argument. A spin-move pick-off to second IS allowed (see video); and so is a FAKE spin-move pick-off to second (again, see video).

  • @Coyote1012 thats what im saying!  :)

  • @Coyote1012 Yes, the inside move is allowed. However, as in all things related to pitching, you have to do it in exactly the right way. It has nothing to do with "fake" anything... it is the pitcher's initial movement after coming to a stop. On the inside move, you must disengage first. This pitcher did what almost all do... he broke his front knee to lift his left foot, beginning the inside turn. If you do that, you cannot make the inside move or it's a balk.

  • @TomKaren94 hell maybe his foot wasnt on the rubber at all... ive done that many times

  • @dub063 If he makes the motion to come to the stop without being in contact with the rubber, that in itself is a balk.

  • @TomKaren94 ur right he came up in the stretch

  • @TomKaren94 There are two different types of pick-off moves to second base. The inside move (turning your landing foot over your planted and stepping over [inside move]) and the spin move (disengaging the rubber by spinning with your planted foot [spin move]). And in the second move (spin move) you're allowed to fake.

  • @Coyote1012 For the LAST time... the "fake" of the throw has NOTHING to do with it being a balk.

  • @Coyote1012 I do have to correct myself on one thing... I've been writing 'inside move' here. This is the 'spin move'. Not sure why I did that. Nonetheless, on the move made in the video, you must disengage the rubber first. The first move here was bending the left knee to raise the forward foot. Can't do that after the stop unless you go home. Doesn't matter if you fake the throw to second or not. There's nothing more to be said.

  • @TomKaren94 Erroneous, because that ever-so-slight motion happened too quick in real-time for an umpire to assess clearly/accurately and since they didn't initially call a balk they would never reverse it [so I did a good job]. AND umpires DO/ALWAYS WILL give the pitchers a little bit of room/leniency for human error (since it's nearly impossible to do a QUICK spin-move without slightly moving the front leg). It's a dirty play; BUT it wouldn't ever be called a balk in a game. Sorry. Video proof.

  • Does everybody have a batting stance like Puljos now. :/ geez

  • My team has does this various times... Rarely fails

  • that was an amazing play! can't hate on strategy!

  • Sick play.

  • Pay attention to your base coach.

  • i feel like that wouldn't work too often. As a baserunner I wouldn't advance until I judge where the ball is and he obviously didn't see any ball in the outfield.

    Tricky play though i'd like to try that this season

  • @rtds9fan this ended the game but if it only ended the inning the batter would be up again and his turn in the lineup would not be skipped

  • Okay it's been a looooooooooooong time since I played baseball so I've forgot over the years.But since the runner on the bag got the last out of the inning does the guy who was batting get to go back up in the next at bat or does it go to the next guy?

  • What the fuck am I supposed to be looking at, here?

  • @Shrubberee ok so the pitcher turned around and faked the pick off and he faked it by making the second and shortstop dive for the "ball" and look at the outfield and making the runner think it was a wild pickoff and the ball got loose but the pitcher had it all along and threw to third to end the game...my explanation wasnt specific but i just wanted to tell you the jist of what happened

  • my team did this once last summer and the ump said it was unsportsmanlike and that if we did it again we'd have to forfeit the game... completeley legal though

  • It'd be mad funny if the pitcher accidently dropped the bal out of his glove on the throw to 3rd or made a silly mess up

  • the batter knew the pitcher had it lol

  • what an idiot runner.

  • He would of been cold anyway if he did throw it. Haha

  • balk, front foot came up first. Legal if the back foot came off first, but the ump didn't see it

  • i thought it was a balk, and then i watched the video, lolfags

  • lol my team did this last summer and it worked haha

  • OOOOOOHHHHHH SIIIIIIICCCKKKKKK!!!!!

  • that kids is why you watch the ball not the players reaction....

  • We Do This Play Too At My School Haha Works Everytime

  • i just love the batter's reaction

  • wow @txsfn47 youre wrong. it wasnt a balk because when a pitcher makes a pickoff move to second base he doesnt have to throw it, whether he stepped off or not

  • 2 Words=Horrible baserunning

  • he stepped in, not out. if he had stepped his foot out towards center field then thats stepping OUT. but he stepped towards home. so he has to get rid of the ball. cant hold on to it. or at least thats what my rules are in college idk what grade or age this is

  • You only have to step off to go to first base...you don't have to step off in any other situation. That's a play we had in our back pocket when I was in Junior League (13 yrs old). Just like the fake to third, throw to first is not a balk (right hander doesn't step off the rubber there either), you can fake to second or third from the stretch. I saw this unsuccessfully run at a high school state tournament game. My favorite 1st and 3rd play was step off, fake to first, fire to 3rd...worked

  • my team attempted this play this past spring- we tried it out twice and didn't get anybody out... lets just say we weren't the best actors...

  • If that's a balk, I'm the queen of England. Umpire behind the plate didn't see, the two field umps didn't see it...but because this is youtube, and we obviously are pros, it was a balk. Still a douchey thing to do to the baserunner, win with class, but looks legal to me.

  • @rapidoregon23 idk wtf u just said, but i find it racist.

  • Batters like " stay.. stay... *he runs* .. dumb ass... *throws bat* " haha

  • He never stepped off the rubber so yea its definitely a balk and a complete douche bag move.

  • Wow so the adult coach was able to out smart a bunch of kids. Very impressive coach. Too bad they cant win without some gay trick play.

  • Holy fuck that's a balk every day of the week and twice on Tuesdays. Did I actually see the UMPIRE follow the play and call an out?? Retard.

  • i thought trickery was illegal in baseball?

  • BALK MUCH!!

  • I'm surprised the pitcher didn't hurt himself whipping his arm like that without anything in it, that's got to hurt.

  • Its pretty funny. In baseball you cant step off the mound like that. You have to turn to the right you cant turn to the left if your right handed its illegal. But hey little girls dont have to play by the rules right

  • @27MiamiHeat What the fuck are you talking about? You can turn which ever way you want when going to 2nd base.

  • I use to play baseball like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee

  • @salvuhdor no im pretty sure its cuz youre gay

  • where's the trick play... all i see is a terrible pick off

  • It's not a balk because he stepped off and for some stupid reason you're allowed to do whatever the fuck you want when you're not going to first

  • @txsfn47 From the time he went into his stretch, there is no visual evidence whatsoever that he stepped off. I'm calling balk on this one.

  • Trick play?? Illegal it's called a BALK.

  • @se7envii7 That is not a balk.

  • 影帝

  • Normally I get mad when people use cheap tactics to win but this wasn't so bad and seriously don't run unless your 3rd base coach tells you to, runners fault great play!

  • pussy outs

  • @MrXXPSNGAMERXx hey hey hey no swearing lol

  • I called it!

  • balk! pitcher has to step off the mound if e sint gonna throw the ball. that was a spin moveto second!

  • His back foot did not come off the rubber first. So this fake throw is a balk. There should not be an out. Go through it in slow-mo by clicking the pay-pause button a million times and you can see he never stepped off the rubber to start the move = balk.

  • @ILOVEUMPS He doesn't have to throw on a pickoff to second or third. Only a balk if it's to first and he doesn't step off. Look it up if you don't believe me.

  • @18goose18 You are correct, Brain dump when I posted. Balk on fake to first. All others you can fake as long as you step towards the bag.

  • I don't see how anyone can decipher whether he picked up his back foot first or not from this angle. Looks like he did them both at the same time, which no ones gonna call.

  • look REAL close, he picks up his back leg first so its not a balk, smart play.

  • Lol look at the batter's body language. Priceless.

  • my granddad played baseball and other sports for carson-newman, he was the last person to letter in four sports for CN, his name is Marion T. Carr

  • ...You can't come off the front of the rubber and not throw it... That's a balk...

  • Typical pussy shit.Can't win a game like a real man so they try some small ball bullshit.

  • @carpetmartsucks ....so you're saying the other team lost to some pussies....dang.

  • @alkhami1 I'm sorry, I meant bitch shit so they lost to some little bitches.

  • @carpetmartsucks so your concept of real man is that of someone with no inititative. Intelligence and deceiving is part of games and sports and of human race with some notable exceptions as yourself.

  • @Bernie8903 Intelligence yea, but I don't see how deception like that can be used for good in baseball. To me it looked like a bunch of chumps couldn't beat a good team with D and hitting so they resulted to some cowards play.

  • bush league...

  • Great play, haters gonna hate!

  • what wash bush league was the runner falling for that play. Nothing wrong with running that play, but plenty wrong for falling for the play.

  • They go to championships and so on.

  • come on thats a dick move to do i mean they are kids NOT pros they can be fooled easily but to win like that means you fail as a baseball thrower.

    A win like that is like May wheather and ortiz fight.

  • @darkmario66 Its just a game.

  • Would have had him even if you would have picked off haha

  • I knew What they were going to do it happened to us once.

  • that is kinda bush league. but gotta do whatever it takes to win i guess

  • LOL at the batters reaction

  • i agree its a little bush league but still he got the out and the runner was dumb enough to fall for it lol

  • You're only required to throw the ball if the runner is on first and you've already started movement. You can always just step off the rubber, but if you've started your wind-up with a runner only on first, you must throw to first base or the plate. With multiple runners or a runner on second or third, you can do anything as long as you move your back foot first and don't stop and start after you've set yourself.

  • balk, take your base

  • @TheMurderface22

    It's not a balk, moron. He stepped off the mound first. Jesus, learn the game before you say stupid shit.

  • isnt that a balk major move to second

  • dude, thats totally a balk!

  • @RobloxVideosbyLayne No its not.. learn the rules

  • that wuz beast

  • Is this legal in the MLB? I didn't know trick plays existed in baseball..

  • whats going on i'm from england and can just about follow basketball and american football

  • @Sam1878Henry You're kidding, right? The pitcher only pretends to overthrow the ball to second base. The shortstop and second basemen give good performances, too. The runner reacts to them and sprints for what he thinks is an easy base advance. Instead, the pitcher had the ball the whole time and lobs it to third for the tag-out.

    How could you miss that?

  • @BloodofPatriots Lol i've never watched a baseball game but i know what you mean know i just didn't know what happened off screen

  • @BloodofPatriots Thanks for the explanation, now it makes sense. No, I didn't see it at first :)

  • 00:01 "the announcer's from mexico" lol

  • thats awesome..Bill Buckner who used to be a 1st baseman for teh Boston red socks used to do trick plays all the time where the pitcher would check to first,then buckner would go teh mound and disscuss whatever with the pitcher and would fake givin teh ball to the pitcher..then head back to first and setup and wait till the man on first would step off teh bag and slap him with the ball in his glove he never gave to teh pitcher..classic!!

  • @TheDman216 I find it amazing that you were dumb enough to misspell a 3 letter word.

  • That really was a great trick play...

  • isnt that a Bock ..i could be wrong..watching baseball for decades and some bocks confuses me sometimes lol

  • @LorenzoLFM  ok i guess i shouldve read the comments before I made mine

  • thats just dirty shit

  • bush league bullshit! thats amazing that a division II school has to pull some bush league play in fear that they will lose to a division III school

  • @thejanderson33 Somebody seems bitter. Were you the runner?? haha

  • @Coyote1012 HAHAHAHAHA HE MAD AS HELL AIN'T HE...LOL

  • @bigmarcsize The runner stopped in the middle of the basepath after I threw to third. Looked up at me, made eye-contact and said, "You son of a bitch." I laughed. hahaha

  • @Coyote1012 THATS WHATS UP.. PEOPLE SAYING THAT PLAY IS BUSH LEAGUE. BUT THERE ARE TRICK PLAYS IN EVERY SPORT WHY NOT BASEBALL.. SHIT IF YOU ARE TUNED INTO THE GAME THEN YOU WOULDN'T GET TRICKED...

  • @thejanderson33 i cant believe he didn't see the ball hahahah this isn't bush league this is just a runner being an IDIOT!

  • @thejanderson33 its called winning. try it some time its pretty fun

  • @cgriff96 hey asshole get the dildo out of your ass, your dads home from work.

  • @coolkidcater good one bro, when you can come up with an original comeback get back to me

  • @cgriff96 lol look at your uploads, your a hella redneck! bahahaha get a life bro

  • @coolkidcater u dont know who the hell i am, and my life beats the hell outa urs id put anythin on that. just cus i aint walkin around in some city with name brand clothes being a pompous asshole doesnt mean i dont have a life

  • Inappropriate isn't the right word to describe this abortion of a comment. You sir are an immature troll. Take your incestuous rape fantasies elsewhere please, it has no business on this page. Thank you for your time... goodbye.

  • @thejanderson33 its a game...you do what you can to win

  • not a balk great play bt the pitcher now lets see hidden ball trick lol

  • this same play happened to me. i was bout to punch the pitcher but i didnt feel like gettin kicked out the tournament

  • @Babyboizdrummer as long as you break when you are stepping off the plate, which he did when he fake threw it, so no it isnt a blak

  • 0:12 shit!

  • Too bad that was a balk

  • @Babyboizdrummer No it wasn't.

  • @Babyboizdrummer No it wasn't. You're allowed to fake to second base.

  • @YoooItsRex It's a balk because he moved his right foot moved forward before he made his move to 2nd

  • @Babyboizdrummer not a balk, he moved his right foot because he was pivoting on his left foot

  • @Babyboizdrummer no he didn't.. watch again.. Its if he deceives the runner by moving leg/body forward towards home

  • I like how this is the most exciting thing that could happen in a baseball game .

  • THATS NOT A BALK?

  • @09babyjoe your right its not

  • @09babyjoe It's not a baulk. You can fake a throw to 2nd and 3rd base but not 1st. Fake a throw to 1st base then it is a baulk.

  • @PlatinumRomance Well you can fake throw to first if you back foot goes behind the mound, but if it goes in front, you have to throw.

  • @RAWRDlNOSAURS You mean off of the rubber? And no you can't. You cannot fake a throw at all to first base.

  • @PlatinumRomance If you do a pickoff move to first your right foot can either jump in front of the rubber, and if you do that you HAVE to throw the ball.

    But if your right foot goes behind the rubber, you do NOT have to throw the ball.

  • @RAWRDlNOSAURS Ok maybe we're thinking of other things. You can only fake throw to first if you first, fake throw to another (occupied) base or the runner has already committed to another base (stealing). Other than that, it is an illegal move. If i am pitching and there is a runner on first and only first base...i CANNOT fake throw to first! Damn bro.

  • @PlatinumRomance Yes you can.. ever heard of a "31" move.. well a lefty can do it too.. fake to first then go the 3rd..

  • @PowerLoveSoundMind1 I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to fake a pick off to first...

  • @falloutboy7778 Pretty sure you can do whatever you want as soon as your back foot comes off the rubber.. Example.. this video.. and fake to 2nd...

  • @PowerLoveSoundMind1 Yeah but that's 2nd if i remember correctly someone did this to me to 1st and they called it a balk but that was only 1st i'm positive you can do it to 2nd and 3rd because for most pitchers its a full turn to get to 2nd and 3rd I'm not entirely sure though

  • @PowerLoveSoundMind1 no a lefty can not fake to 1st.. your stupid..

  • They realize we can't see the ball right?

  • LOL @ the batter all like "you idiot."

  • lol my team used to use this play when i played in 12 n under, always worked perfectly ;D

  • Amazing play that required the pitcher, middle infielders, AND centerfielder give A+ acting jobs. The best part is the pitcher acting upset then causally throwing to third.

  • the batter throwing his bat made this whole video

  • @jumpfree77 it's the outfielder selling the trick play.

  • LOL, but the batter should have been yelling at the runner. Anyways bravo to you sir

  • the batter is like " stop stop stop...dumbass "

  • id say its the left fielders legs. for the play to work best, the center fielder would be backing up the play behind 2nd and acting like he was chasing it down. it looks like the "legs" come from the left field direction, to me at least, as well. no way the cf could have gotten there that quickly

  • nice play sir

  • bush leauge

  • wait i take that back he stepped off

  • @BigMike3519 Bzzzzt! Wrong again. He doesn't have to step off. You can feint a throw to any occupied base except first.