@cj62392 Trojan were another greek tribe...maybe mixed with other nations but a greek one...Same gods and customs..Trojan war was a civil war in reality...cheers
@ElricMeln1 I don't think so, the Trojans did have similar culture, however they were not on the Greek peninsula and considered the Greeks to be "foreign".
@cj62392 i know but greeks had already migrated and dispersed to minor asia prior the turning og the 2nd millenium bc!!! its higly possible to share origins with Troy!!dont forget that in ancient times Greece was not one...they were city-states with conflicts all the time...that doesnt make the foreign nations...right??
@ElricMeln1 I know but it just seems like the Greek army wouldn't have annihilated Troy in the way they did if they truly considered them to be Greek. It's probably like immigrants in north america today. You can be Italian American because of your heritage, but you're not really Italian, you're American.
@cj62392 WAS SYRACOUSE FOREIGN? CYRENE, PERGAMON , ALEXANDRIA....I THINK THAT IS THE MAJOR FAULT U GUYS DO , HELLAS CAOLONIES WERE MULTIPLE AND IN ALL MEDDITERANEAN...TROY CULTURE WAS THE SAME , DEITIES ,THE SAME , LANGUAGE , THE SAME, ARTS AND WARFARE , THE SAME , NAMES , THE SAME , REIGNS , THE SAME, ALL THE SAME .THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS THAT THEY WERE FROM 2 DIFFERENT HELLENIC TRIBES.....THE AIOLIANS AND THE IONIANS, AFTER THAT CAME THE DORIAN PRIDE......
@cj62392 BOTH HELLENES THEY WERE BUT RIVALS..AS WAS ACHILEUS AND AGAMEMNON BEFORE,AS WAS MENELAOS AND DIOMEDES AS ALL STATES HERE IN GREECE,STILL ARE ALWAYS WILL BE.TRY ATHENS WITH SALONICA, CHANIA IN CRETE WITH IRAKLEION IN CRETE, LARISSA WITH VOLOS.BUT IN THE END THEY ARE ALL HELLENES.AND WHEN THEY REALIZED IT WAS LATE.ROMANS TOOK HELLAS BY DIVIDE AND CONQUER.EVEN ALEXANDERS GENERALS KILLED THEM SELVES TO SPOIL THE EMPIRE.WHAT AN EMPIRE HELLAS WOULD HAVE BEEN IF NOT FOR INNER KILLING
@mitsuomi2 no they spoke latin the made latin so they r latin they r true latins all west European country's speak a from of latin France spain and Portugal and even german and english r froms of latin and all though out history they been called latin so check up on your history
@chanceryals1 Chance, you need to check up on YOUR history. The Greek people(or Hellenes as they were known in ancient times) were not "Latins." The Latin people were an ancient tribe that existed in Italy even before the founding of Rome. Now it should be noted that later when Rome had absorbed Greece into her growing empire the Hellenes learned Latin as seen by Polybius a Greek historian who wrote in Latin. It should also be noted that the Latin language owes much to the Greek alphabet.
I think the worst historical movie i've ever seen is Troy, and Gladiator goes to the second place. They both are Holywood crap... change any of their characters for a (say) Fast and Furious or Spiderman and you'll find a perfect match. Super production and little-star hiring is all they can bluff about.
Get outta town. Gladiator's score is utterly impeccable and I still have yet to see Russel Crowe or Joaquin Phoenix pull off a better performance. Troy's not the greatest but its definitely not Hollywood crap. The casting was perfect I thought, that and Achilles is an utter badass. Regardless of the fact that he's played by Brad Pitt.
Gladiator's score is utterly predictable, you'd say. As well as (almost) all other Hollyshit production, despite the exorbitant budgets and the well-known, nice-faced disposable stars (as Pitt) they hire.
@Lonz413 listen kid, go eat some cake or something... if u truly knew about history you would be disgust at those movies. Go watch some superman or that other crap
wars has always been and will alway be..its in our blood..its in our nature..even animals fight
carameloxx 6 days ago
too bad Achilles was Greek and Hector was Trojan
cj62392 10 months ago
@cj62392 Trojan were another greek tribe...maybe mixed with other nations but a greek one...Same gods and customs..Trojan war was a civil war in reality...cheers
ElricMeln1 3 months ago
@ElricMeln1 I don't think so, the Trojans did have similar culture, however they were not on the Greek peninsula and considered the Greeks to be "foreign".
cj62392 3 months ago
@cj62392 i know but greeks had already migrated and dispersed to minor asia prior the turning og the 2nd millenium bc!!! its higly possible to share origins with Troy!!dont forget that in ancient times Greece was not one...they were city-states with conflicts all the time...that doesnt make the foreign nations...right??
ElricMeln1 3 months ago
@ElricMeln1 I know but it just seems like the Greek army wouldn't have annihilated Troy in the way they did if they truly considered them to be Greek. It's probably like immigrants in north america today. You can be Italian American because of your heritage, but you're not really Italian, you're American.
cj62392 3 months ago
@ElricMeln1 Not all the times mate.
2010Nodari 2 months ago
@cj62392 WAS SYRACOUSE FOREIGN? CYRENE, PERGAMON , ALEXANDRIA....I THINK THAT IS THE MAJOR FAULT U GUYS DO , HELLAS CAOLONIES WERE MULTIPLE AND IN ALL MEDDITERANEAN...TROY CULTURE WAS THE SAME , DEITIES ,THE SAME , LANGUAGE , THE SAME, ARTS AND WARFARE , THE SAME , NAMES , THE SAME , REIGNS , THE SAME, ALL THE SAME .THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS THAT THEY WERE FROM 2 DIFFERENT HELLENIC TRIBES.....THE AIOLIANS AND THE IONIANS, AFTER THAT CAME THE DORIAN PRIDE......
dimitili 1 month ago
@cj62392 BOTH HELLENES THEY WERE BUT RIVALS..AS WAS ACHILEUS AND AGAMEMNON BEFORE,AS WAS MENELAOS AND DIOMEDES AS ALL STATES HERE IN GREECE,STILL ARE ALWAYS WILL BE.TRY ATHENS WITH SALONICA, CHANIA IN CRETE WITH IRAKLEION IN CRETE, LARISSA WITH VOLOS.BUT IN THE END THEY ARE ALL HELLENES.AND WHEN THEY REALIZED IT WAS LATE.ROMANS TOOK HELLAS BY DIVIDE AND CONQUER.EVEN ALEXANDERS GENERALS KILLED THEM SELVES TO SPOIL THE EMPIRE.WHAT AN EMPIRE HELLAS WOULD HAVE BEEN IF NOT FOR INNER KILLING
dimitili 1 month ago
Not only is Achilles included, but he is being played by the cringeworthy Brad Pitt. Double fail.
AemiliaPaulla 11 months ago
what this song ?
mihai1369 1 year ago
only romans and greeks r the only real latins and dont forget about 300 being holywood crap not accurate at all
chanceryals1 1 year ago
@chanceryals1 greeks aren't latin they're......greek
mitsuomi2 1 year ago
@mitsuomi2 no they spoke latin the made latin so they r latin they r true latins all west European country's speak a from of latin France spain and Portugal and even german and english r froms of latin and all though out history they been called latin so check up on your history
chanceryals1 1 year ago
@chanceryals1 Chance, you need to check up on YOUR history. The Greek people(or Hellenes as they were known in ancient times) were not "Latins." The Latin people were an ancient tribe that existed in Italy even before the founding of Rome. Now it should be noted that later when Rome had absorbed Greece into her growing empire the Hellenes learned Latin as seen by Polybius a Greek historian who wrote in Latin. It should also be noted that the Latin language owes much to the Greek alphabet.
Sixx28 10 months ago
Calling the Greeks "Latin" however is a horribly inaccurate statement
Sixx28 10 months ago
@mitsuomi2 but they no longer speak latin its a dead language but they r still latin
chanceryals1 1 year ago
Achilles isnt roman:) epic fail
becherak 1 year ago
Good job, Lonz. Excellent video. Also, pay no attention to the idiot assholes on here who leave negative comments. They're just jealous :-)
zekal10 1 year ago
hay auwoodstock shut the fuck up and go fuck your mother and if you dont have mother then go fuck your sisster you son of the bitch
TheZeus610 1 year ago
I think the worst historical movie i've ever seen is Troy, and Gladiator goes to the second place. They both are Holywood crap... change any of their characters for a (say) Fast and Furious or Spiderman and you'll find a perfect match. Super production and little-star hiring is all they can bluff about.
AuWoodStock 2 years ago 3
Get outta town. Gladiator's score is utterly impeccable and I still have yet to see Russel Crowe or Joaquin Phoenix pull off a better performance. Troy's not the greatest but its definitely not Hollywood crap. The casting was perfect I thought, that and Achilles is an utter badass. Regardless of the fact that he's played by Brad Pitt.
Lonz413 2 years ago 3
Gladiator's score is utterly predictable, you'd say. As well as (almost) all other Hollyshit production, despite the exorbitant budgets and the well-known, nice-faced disposable stars (as Pitt) they hire.
AuWoodStock 2 years ago
@Lonz413 listen kid, go eat some cake or something... if u truly knew about history you would be disgust at those movies. Go watch some superman or that other crap
psypsynos 1 year ago
achielles was a latin hero?
typhoonginopilot 2 years ago
thanks for the corrections guys.
Lonz413 2 years ago
This is sweet! But you know their not accurate right? But still bad ass. What did you get for a grade???
Sylar000000 2 years ago
I got a 95.
Lonz413 2 years ago
And yeah, I know they're not accurate. My teacher corrected me in class but he said it was very well made.
Lonz413 2 years ago
@Lonz413 Achilles was greek ! fail.....! Try to read some books! Then watch Hollywood films.
phovosgreek 1 year ago
They're greeks
Solid94Snake 2 years ago
what is the name of this song?
Nichan1994 2 years ago
carmina burana
thats the name m8
0xxGrandMasterxx0 2 years ago
dude this movie is so damn epic!
MSc0tt90 2 years ago
Its "O Fortuna" by Mozart
Lonz413 2 years ago
I'd love to know the name of this specific song. If anyone knows it, please tell me :)
FireflyAlpha01 2 years ago
Oh - the one I'm talking about is the first one in the video :)
FireflyAlpha01 2 years ago
a hero to one person is always a villain to another
anyway, is there a name for this kind of epic music? you know epic and just huge vocals, usually sung in latin or something :o
IzzyBunneh 3 years ago
my bad. Thanks for the correction
rishasfabulous 3 years ago
Achilles is not a Roman Hero...he's a Greek
nazzy19c 3 years ago 11
So What?
HispanicsRNotSpanish 2 years ago