Wow, there are time signatures other than 4/4 and 3/4. Those of you who are making disparaging comments on one of the greatest drummers of all time should increase your knowledge and step out of your mental musical boxes. Plus the fact that he always tried to stretch the boundaries of drumming with his imaginative techniques. Knowledge is power! Get some!
I use brushes with a country/bluegrass band and it compliments nicely, It's new on my channel if anyone fancies a look, I thought I'd type snare solo to see other methods I could use with brushes, but i had to say this is a bit too abstract! lol im struggling to understand it, maybe im just a noob to brushes :S?
@SharpDrumming He doesn't stick to conventional techniques, because he wants to use a whole slew of different textures. Here, he seems to be getting into more creative, less common brush techniques. However, that just goes to show you, in regards to your plea for help, that really, if you want to use brushes, that's terrific! But don't think "Oh, it's supposed to be done this or that way." Do your own thing, and drum how you want to drum. That's the beauty of music. Good luck with your band!
I actually don't find this very amazing and even kinda dissapointing. I love Max but this is pretty sad, I wouldn't call myself a great drummer but I can play better brushwork than what was played there.
idk about this being dissapointing...his tone in the begining is great! Better to look from an appreciative standpoint than a critical one...esp with a great like max roach. Drumming was just different back then
Is the reason this video has so many dislikes really becuz in the description some guy said "best drummer of all time"? Jesus Christ ppl r entitled to their own opinion and this is a great video so some1 shouldn't dismiss it becuz of the uploaders opinion
Good God people. Max Roach is a master with brush work. Terry Bozzio is a master of melodics. Dave Garibaldi is a master of funk. There is no best drummer. Just shut the fuck up and play your kit.
@jazzy music is just sound on sound off; you reductive fool. Each to their own, but @ windy load a vid of yourself "cleaning a snare" and lets see how good you are
@jazzy music is just sound on sound off; you reductive fool. Each to their own, but load a vid of yourself "cleaning a snare" and lets see how good you are
@TheAbbeytv neil cant play jazz on maxes level you are right, but there are dudes who can rip pearts ass like STEVE GADD, he would make neil peart look like a child!!!
@Audi0Phil you have no idea how ignorant you sound. i'm not saying this video contains the best brush playing ever, because it doesn't. jeff hamilton is a fabulous brush player, probably better than max ever was. however, max is pretty old in this video. in his 70s, i'm pretty sure. he probably, at this point in his life, hadn't practiced brushes in a long time. you're forgetting that max was playing brushes on recordings that were made when your grandfather was still a virgin. dumbass.
I *LOVE* how so many people commenting on this video imply that technicality of the performance equates to how good and artistic it is (akin to saying Dragonforce is better than Guided by Voices). And, even if you NEED technicality to like it, Roach more than shows he can provide that in his other performances. Max Roach is better than your favorite drummer.
He puts so much feeling in his playing, am I the only one who can hear the melody in this ? Also this is pretty old, so you have to understand how unique his style was at the time.
For the morons with their stupid comments of "he's just cleaning the snare", etc. let me explain this: Those are brushes that he's using. They are often used for ballads in jazz although it's not uncommon for them to be used on up tempo tunes here and there. Saying that Max is just "wiping the snare with brushes" here is as stupid as watching a master conga player and saying "all he's doing is hitting the drum with his hand". Take time to learn about these things before making stupid comments.
@WindyCityJazz Yeah man :-) you'd have to be a moron to not know that! haha and why would anyone look up max roach not knowing what brushes are. anyway...
It's funny how a bunch of drummers can watch a video of the drummer that allowed all drummers after him to ACTUALLY BE RESPECTED AS MUSICIANS... and hate on him for any reason they can.
Know your roots. None of us would be this far without the man you're seeing in this video.
@ThaDeeStylee i agree it don't matter how good someone is there always somebody putting it down,and most of the time the guys running their mouth can't play the drums.
@ThaDeeStylee in no way did this guy "allowed all drummers after him to ACTUALLY BE RESPECTED AS MUSICIANS" there are 100 other drummers that should get that accolade before this guy, he's not bad but i don't think any knowledgeable drummer would put him with the founding fathers of drumming
@shocxxxx Look it up, him Kenny Clarke and a select few others shifted the emphasis of drumming from solely timing to focusing on musicality. He is one of the MAIN fathers of drumming. Krupa helped invent the high-hat etc and others have made their contributions but Max was a huge force behind re-defining drumming. Before Max's era lineups read "X amount of musicians comma and a drummer".
@ThaDeeStylee i have looked it up, i still stick by my original comment. He just isn't everyone's cup of tea, and i don't see how in anyway he re-defined drumming.
@shocxxxx He was the biggest jazz drummer in the time period where jazz drummers where losing the '4 on the floor' bass drum pattern (bass drum on all 4 beats) and shifting the time to the ride cymbal and hihat, he was the first drummer to make a point of using all 4 limbs independently, he redefined jazz drumming by playing the swung jazz-ride pattern but making the bass drum strokes abrupt and un-syncopated (then called 'dropping bombs') and by mimicing melody and musical passages.
@ThaDeeStylee he redefined JAZZ not DRUMMING, there is a huge difference. And i when i say i have looked it up, that means ive read it, i have even taken 4 years of jazz classes (for guitar and bass, but still learned about all musicians). There are just other drummers that made a much more substantial impact on drumming itself and not just a style of music. Im in no way saying he is bad, i just wouldn't put him in the same category as gene krupa or buddy rich
@shocxxxx You are allowed to have your own opinions, but the general drumming community puts bebop drumming a class above big band and swing; and thus Roach above Rich and Krupa. Also, those drummers didn't really do much to the styles they were playing besides raise the bar. That stuff is straightforward in a time when all western music was. Go back to your jazz class teachers and ask them which was more influential for drummers to come. Fame does not equal influence.
@ThaDeeStylee fame definitely helps influence, i suppose it doesn't directly equal it. And what you said about the general drumming community is just wrong, that is 100% opinion based. And my teacher was obsessed with chick webb, she rarely mentioned Max Roach
@shocxxxx Bebop came from swing and was more advanced, most musicians agree on that. Modern Drummer put out a tribute issue to Roach after his death in 07. Jeff Hamilton, Roy Haynes, Tony Williams, Louie Bellson, Jack DeJohnette, Billy Hart, Densmore, Cobham, Erskine... all of these drummers regard Roach as one of the most important and influential drummers ever in that issue. Also the bebop era influenced more music to come, at this point.
@shocxxxx I'm really not trying to be an ass, I just feel like being an obsessive drummer for the better part of the past 8 years would have me reading more about drumming than you might've gotten around to. Drummers have more of a sense of community than other groups of musicians seem to, and I don't know of any other one drummer who is regarded as highly as Roach among us. Im pretty sure even Buddy Rich saw him as cutting edge, or else he wouldn't have agreed to do an album with him.
@ThaDeeStylee ive been a drummer for over 10 years though, so by your logic I have probably have read more about it than YOU have. I'm not trying to be an ass either, i just don't think personally he was one of THE MOST influential or game changing drummers, he is one of the good ones yes, i just personally don't put him up there. For me he had nothing to do with the reason i started to play, and he didn't change the way i played when i heard him. It's just a personal thing
@ThaDeeStylee and i think you are going to local, you are trying to speak for all drummers when you probably only know a hand full or drummers yourself. Maybe in your circle of people no one is " regarded as highly as Roach" but i think you would be hard pressed to find any other group of drummers that think he deserves to be the most highly regarded drummer
@ThaDeeStylee you just fail to read what i am typing at this point, im sorry you dont understand what im trying to tell you. I have already told you i have been through classes that have discussed him and that i have looked him up, but i guess you just forgot.
@ThaDeeStylee and the article you linked doesn't help your point much. Everytime it says he is one of the best or most important it says [citation needed] which means it was just some guys opinion
@shocxxxx I didn't realize you were a drummer, friend. It does help, because I'm trying to tell you that there are a whooooole lot of random people with that opinion. I personally don't believe in 'bests' when talking about musicians, and I never said that. Just a boatload of drummers consider him the toward the top of the most influential drummers. You said that I'd be hard pressed to find em... I guarantee that neither of us would be. He isn't one of my influences, but he influenced them.
@ThaDeeStylee and again i have to say this because now it sounds like i don't like him. I do like him, and i think he is an excellent drummer. but i personally don't think he is the best.
@shocxxxx Google Max Roach and Kenny Clarke again and actually read all of what you find. Those guys helped change drumming and invent bebop. By todays standards they aren't amazing but back then they were changing drumming.
I honestly don't know what's wrong with people. Let me start from the beginning. These are drum brushes. Drummers use them on songs that or more ballads.
People just don't know much about stuff like that when they think they know everything. For example, I saw a guy playing with brushes because he went acoustically on the drums. That's not acoustic. Especially when you rim shot every single hit and don't use brush techniques with them. I never saw the rolling of the brush itself. I thought tha
OMG this sucks my balls, it reyt does. i thought i was guna be watchin an awesome snare solo, but i got some guy trying to paint 1 by the looks. He might have some good techniques but this sure does suck my balls..................fuckin post then
OMG this sucks my balls, it reyt does. i thought i was guna be watchin an awesome snare solo, but i got some guy trying to paint 1 by the looks. He might have some good techniques but this sure does suck my balls..................fuckin post then
OMG this sucks my balls, it reyt does. i thought i was guna be watchin an awesome snare solo, but i got some guy trying to paint 1 by the looks. He might have some good techniques but this sure does suck my balls
OMG this sucks my balls, it reyt does. i thought i was guna be watchin an awesome snare solo, but i got some guy trying to paint 1 by the looks. He might have some good techniques but this sure does suck my balls
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OMG this sucks my balls, it reyt does. i thought i was guna be watchin an awesome snare solo, but i got some guy trying to paint 1 by the looks. He might have some good techniques but this sure does suck my balls
For sure not the greatest drummer of all time, but he had so many new ideas at the drumkit that many generations can learn and study from. He was an intellectual drummer, not an instinct animal like Buddy Rich. :o)
At :27 the triplets he does by rolling each brush across the rim are clever. They're in time and even. What happens when he (literally) rolls the two sticks under the palms of his hands to create a drum roll is an insult to my ears. He tried something neat and in my opinion it failed. And the end... Taken out of context, SOMEwhat musically swishing brushes in a barely discernable pattern across a drumhead is hardly ground-breaking. He awesome, but this really isn't.
@Fharad99 id have to disagree with u on the rolling brushes. i like it when musicians do something unexpected. to me it sounded great and was a clever idea
this? he is doing nothing. little roll here and there, slap the brush's lol. ok hes playing in time, so what. why does this make him one of the greatest?
@chrisgr00ver here you are again being a dick. just get over it, you'll never be as good as max roach.......ever. theres a reason he had a career that allowed him to play with the best musicians on the planet and lasted from the 1940's until his death in 2007.
@chrisgr00ver The short answer: This video doesn't make him the greatest its just a one minute look at some max roach chops. Besides if you actually listen to the music before Max then listen to the music after Max, you may get a clue. Judging by your favorite videos you only listen to what people put in your lap. However, Steve Gadd would list him as a great and an influence so I find that a little ironic. So quit being a Chad Smith (even though I respect him) fanboy and expand your horizons.
Why do there always have to be Neil Peart fan boys on jazz drummer videos talking about how Peart is better? Take a look at Peart's attempt at playing jazz in the Buddy Rich tribute. The guy can't swing at all. If you tried getting a job leading a big band and played the way Peart did on that video you'd be fired before the first song was over. Peart is great, and my favorite rock drummer, but he does not have the skill of guys like Roach, Rich, Jones, Blakey, and Bellson, to name a few.
@WindyCityJazz i made this same comment just not so eloquently worded. that dvd with neil playing was comparable to high school big band featuring someone who learned some peart licks.
You guys who viewed this need to look up Carl Palmer's snare drum solo. It kinda makes this look pathetic with all due respect because I know they are both great. but it is what it is
@Fairlynormalme i think if carl palmer read your comment, he would be ashamed to consider you a fan of his for saying anything max roach did is "pathetic" hey it is what it is....
im going to sound really ignorant but can someone explain to me why these guys are so famous? ive tried lsitening to max roach and philly jones and art blakely but i cant get myself to enjoy their drumming. Is it hard to play what they are playing?
First, Drums Unlimited and Money Jungle are classics. Second, this vid demonstrates a specific jazz technique. If you're not a music student or a pro, don't worry about not getting what he's doing. Third, "clean" has been jazz slang since the 1930s for first-rate work. Lastly, nobody can whine and think at the same time. I knew Max and he was brilliant, always: "Jazz is a science." Every cat in New York begged in, chance came, to share time with this man.
What's with all these stupid comments about cleaning the snare? They're called brushes people! Jazz drummers use them all the time, and I love seeing a drummer that has great brushwork. Anyone who has to make stupid "cleaning the snare" comments obviously doesn't know much about drumming.
i'm not even going to read all the comments here because i can see that as with any thread of a good drummer, neil peart has to get brought up. peart is great at writing complicated drum parts and then reciting them for you exactly on a nightly basis.. basically regurgitating his drum part. max roach, and any competent jazz drummer for that matter, actually understand music and listening and that its about more then your chops and how loud and fast you can play. max roach is one of the best
@coreyhewitt "and then reciting them for you exactly on a nightly basis.. basically regurgitating his drum part."
Clearly you've never actually seen/heard Rush live if you're going to make such a hilariously ignorant statement. I respect Max Roach fine, and to be honest I don't really care for too much of Rush's discography, but if you think he's "regurgitating" you're just talking outta yer ass.
Also, I suppose when guys like Mozart kept playing the same pieces unchanged, that sucked too, lol
@zgates please watch a video of neil peart playing drums on the buddy rich tribute. he clearly is out of his element, cant swing, and sounds terrible. and in his solo, he uses tons of licks from his famous solo he plays every night.
2 of my favorite drummers, Bill Bruford & Billy Cobham, were heavenly influenced by this man. Actually my 3 favorite drummers are probably Bruford, Cobham & Bozzio. There are many great drummers out there & I believe arguing over who's better than who to be immature, unintelligent & just downright pointless. Art is made to be enjoyed & appreciated not judged & compared. Music is not a competition or a sport it is a form of art. What a boring world this would b if everyone had the same opinions.
It just shows that you don't need a kit to have a array of sounds, that one drum and some sticks or brushes can be sufficiant that your only limited by your creativity, I get this and I'm not even a drummer
LISTEN!!!! IF THERE WAS NO MAX ROACH THERE WOULD BE NO NIEL PERT. MAX ROACH'S INNOVATIONS LED TO THE STYLE OF DRUMMING WE HEAR TO DAY. IN THIS CLIP HE SHOWED A GREAT DEMONSTRATION OF BRUSH TECHNIQUE. IF YOU DO NOT FIND IT INTERESTING THAN ITS NOT FOR YOU. YOU SOUND CRAZY SAYING THE MAN SUCKED. INSTEAD OF MAKING AN ASS OUT OF YOUR SELF AND SAYING THE MAN HAS NO TALENT, SAY HIS STYLE OF MUSIC IS NOT FOR M ABD THEN WE ALL CAN UNDERSTAND.
how could you dislike this? he's showing all of you up
jlo2667 2 days ago
damn do I need to learn brushes
rebusd 1 week ago
A Clean Snare Drum Now ^^
KoOstAs50 3 weeks ago
Wow, there are time signatures other than 4/4 and 3/4. Those of you who are making disparaging comments on one of the greatest drummers of all time should increase your knowledge and step out of your mental musical boxes. Plus the fact that he always tried to stretch the boundaries of drumming with his imaginative techniques. Knowledge is power! Get some!
turpinhill 3 weeks ago 8
He started great... But lost me at about :35.
cdickenson64 1 month ago
Im sorry, but if you can't see this particular 'solo' is horrible, you're an idiot.
TopTenCrew 1 month ago
@TopTenCrew how is this "horrible?"
AboveOneMusic 3 weeks ago
@TopTenCrew your premises and conclusion are bold, but I'll still take the bet. :)
rebusd 1 week ago
I use brushes with a country/bluegrass band and it compliments nicely, It's new on my channel if anyone fancies a look, I thought I'd type snare solo to see other methods I could use with brushes, but i had to say this is a bit too abstract! lol im struggling to understand it, maybe im just a noob to brushes :S?
SharpDrumming 1 month ago
@SharpDrumming No disrespect, Max Roach in a Phenomenal Drummer
SharpDrumming 1 month ago
@SharpDrumming Oh an the start is amazing its the back end of the video which is a bit too stange :O
SharpDrumming 1 month ago
@SharpDrumming He doesn't stick to conventional techniques, because he wants to use a whole slew of different textures. Here, he seems to be getting into more creative, less common brush techniques. However, that just goes to show you, in regards to your plea for help, that really, if you want to use brushes, that's terrific! But don't think "Oh, it's supposed to be done this or that way." Do your own thing, and drum how you want to drum. That's the beauty of music. Good luck with your band!
obnoxiousagnostic16 1 week ago
I actually don't find this very amazing and even kinda dissapointing. I love Max but this is pretty sad, I wouldn't call myself a great drummer but I can play better brushwork than what was played there.
goodnamepending 1 month ago
@goodnamepending
idk about this being dissapointing...his tone in the begining is great! Better to look from an appreciative standpoint than a critical one...esp with a great like max roach. Drumming was just different back then
superdrummerdude1 1 month ago
@goodnamepending I agree totally,, Max Rouch is way , way OVERRATED !!
Velvet4U 1 month ago
Is the reason this video has so many dislikes really becuz in the description some guy said "best drummer of all time"? Jesus Christ ppl r entitled to their own opinion and this is a great video so some1 shouldn't dismiss it becuz of the uploaders opinion
CoolbeansofGR 1 month ago
nigga lovez that sheet
Pieking93 1 month ago
he isnt the best drummer, but he is one of the best!
gottalovetaiko 1 month ago
845 morons...
CML4N 1 month ago 5
he was one of the best.
zzyyxxo 1 month ago
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mairiciofidelis1 1 month ago
looks like iron chef. its cool tho that he's playing outside the box
whysolimited 1 month ago
i didnt know obama could play drums like this...
bonzaiash 2 months ago
At 33 it looks like he is playing underhand. Just notices that.
RevWrona 2 months ago
Good God people. Max Roach is a master with brush work. Terry Bozzio is a master of melodics. Dave Garibaldi is a master of funk. There is no best drummer. Just shut the fuck up and play your kit.
87cadillachearse 2 months ago
why are people even mentioning other drummers like Neil Peart here?
RiversideIndian 2 months ago
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@jazzy music is just sound on sound off; you reductive fool. Each to their own, but @ windy load a vid of yourself "cleaning a snare" and lets see how good you are
heatherdaydream 2 months ago
@heatherdaydream I think you need to RE-READ my comment and see if your pea size brain can comprehend it.
WindyCityJazz 1 month ago
@jazzy music is just sound on sound off; you reductive fool. Each to their own, but load a vid of yourself "cleaning a snare" and lets see how good you are
heatherdaydream 2 months ago
Why are there so many dislikes on this video? Max was a beast!
melvinbrains 2 months ago
@TheAbbeytv neil cant play jazz on maxes level you are right, but there are dudes who can rip pearts ass like STEVE GADD, he would make neil peart look like a child!!!
samtotheg 2 months ago
Im Sorry but what the fuck was the point of that that was absolutley embarrasing i feel so bad for him i hope he gets better some day
15pianofreak 3 months ago
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@15pianofreak I don't think you know what you're talking about
Antchovi 2 months ago
who would dislike this?? There just jelous! haha
aliens563 3 months ago
sounds like happy feet.
smocoo 3 months ago
I BET HE MADE THE BEST SCRAMBLED EGGS EVER!
paulsmithii 3 months ago
IT had great feel, great time and an amazing sound, but come on Max what the fuck was that shit at 0:22?! God that was just.... not even enjoyable.
Turtlesrossum 4 months ago
what kind of people are the 843 azzholez....? this is amazing! this mr roach...a little bit of respect...this guy is a legend! for heavens sake!
neilraoufsw 4 months ago 2
I don't think there 'is' or 'ever will be' a greatest drummer of all time... But if there 'was' I think it would be Elvin Jones.
calico992 4 months ago
@calico992 All the top drummers in the world have one answer, " there are drummers and then there is , Buddy Rich"
Shane7952 3 months ago
Here's the guy for you when you need your drum set cleaned up.
sebbs89 4 months ago
you play that snare Obama!
lucasathus 5 months ago
I just have to say.... That is just hilarious xDDDDD
c2h2l222 5 months ago
the funny thing is hes just fucking around making stuff up on the spot
xXdrummer90xX 5 months ago
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RIP, Mr. Thigpen.
kyubynaruto12 5 months ago
this is incredible, and can understand why this is going over many peoples heads.
sinceilostmytooth 5 months ago
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@sinceilostmytooth I am one of those people, why is this incredible?
kingdomEPIC 5 months ago
Iam sorry ... but as legendary he was back in the days ,.... watch jeff hamilton or jojo mayer playing with brushes .... they are much better
Audi0Phil 5 months ago
@Audi0Phil phil, lets watch you
allthingsthatarecool 5 months ago
@Audi0Phil Your opinion isn't even, nor will it ever be valid.
CJRaaa 4 months ago
@Audi0Phil you have no idea how ignorant you sound. i'm not saying this video contains the best brush playing ever, because it doesn't. jeff hamilton is a fabulous brush player, probably better than max ever was. however, max is pretty old in this video. in his 70s, i'm pretty sure. he probably, at this point in his life, hadn't practiced brushes in a long time. you're forgetting that max was playing brushes on recordings that were made when your grandfather was still a virgin. dumbass.
flipadiddle 4 months ago
the greatest brush solo ive ever seen!
mravantgarde123 5 months ago
he looks like Obama
gabox717 6 months ago
R.I.P
Mirozenx 6 months ago
A LEGEND AND PIONEER SIMPLY MAX.
davisismail1comcast 6 months ago
I love it how drummers these days need 500 toms and millions of cymbals, but Max Roach can beat them ten times over with one snare.
getreadytowiggle1991 6 months ago
im tired of hearing about peart and bonham and people like that man this is a max roach video end of story.
daryn7 6 months ago
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@dashingjavi because you're not max roach
Servedpancakes 6 months ago
i'm pretty sure i can do that... so why aren't i famous???
dashingjavi 6 months ago
cuac cuac cuaaaaaaaaaac ....
makenshy07 7 months ago
I *LOVE* how so many people commenting on this video imply that technicality of the performance equates to how good and artistic it is (akin to saying Dragonforce is better than Guided by Voices). And, even if you NEED technicality to like it, Roach more than shows he can provide that in his other performances. Max Roach is better than your favorite drummer.
DAFIZZIF 7 months ago
I'll bet he had a fly problem before he was famous...
I AM A DOLPHIN.
ChickenVendetta 7 months ago
My Hibachi grill cook can do that
KaslarProductions 7 months ago
He puts so much feeling in his playing, am I the only one who can hear the melody in this ? Also this is pretty old, so you have to understand how unique his style was at the time.
SaucisseMerguez 7 months ago
For the morons with their stupid comments of "he's just cleaning the snare", etc. let me explain this: Those are brushes that he's using. They are often used for ballads in jazz although it's not uncommon for them to be used on up tempo tunes here and there. Saying that Max is just "wiping the snare with brushes" here is as stupid as watching a master conga player and saying "all he's doing is hitting the drum with his hand". Take time to learn about these things before making stupid comments.
WindyCityJazz 7 months ago 24
@WindyCityJazz Yeah man :-) you'd have to be a moron to not know that! haha and why would anyone look up max roach not knowing what brushes are. anyway...
aliens563 3 months ago
@WindyCityJazz he's just cleaning the snare
tunglour 2 months ago
@WindyCityJazz As a drummer, I gotta agree with you, this guy was like the John Cage of drumming.
But you gotta admit, it does look like "Brush on, Brush off"
jazzydrums95 2 months ago
@WindyCityJazz right on
RiversideIndian 2 months ago
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WindyCityJazz 7 months ago
C'mon. This is gibberish. Get Travis Barker in here. What's wrong with you people?
JoeJacari 7 months ago
Obama :D
XxXFazusXxX 7 months ago
Yeah i'd say hes the best drummer :)
drums4694 8 months ago
00:57---- scrub those windows!!!
tapecrafta 8 months ago
okay, so your drum is clean, are you going to start playing now?
drummerfever1 8 months ago
@drummerfever1 Yeah, watch another video and he'll play for you
MrJellyman300 7 months ago
For a minute I thought those were picks
ultimateman45 8 months ago
It's funny how a bunch of drummers can watch a video of the drummer that allowed all drummers after him to ACTUALLY BE RESPECTED AS MUSICIANS... and hate on him for any reason they can.
Know your roots. None of us would be this far without the man you're seeing in this video.
ThaDeeStylee 8 months ago 7
@ThaDeeStylee i agree it don't matter how good someone is there always somebody putting it down,and most of the time the guys running their mouth can't play the drums.
rogerbahakel 2 months ago
@ThaDeeStylee in no way did this guy "allowed all drummers after him to ACTUALLY BE RESPECTED AS MUSICIANS" there are 100 other drummers that should get that accolade before this guy, he's not bad but i don't think any knowledgeable drummer would put him with the founding fathers of drumming
shocxxxx 1 month ago
@shocxxxx Look it up, him Kenny Clarke and a select few others shifted the emphasis of drumming from solely timing to focusing on musicality. He is one of the MAIN fathers of drumming. Krupa helped invent the high-hat etc and others have made their contributions but Max was a huge force behind re-defining drumming. Before Max's era lineups read "X amount of musicians comma and a drummer".
ThaDeeStylee 1 month ago
@ThaDeeStylee i have looked it up, i still stick by my original comment. He just isn't everyone's cup of tea, and i don't see how in anyway he re-defined drumming.
shocxxxx 1 month ago
@shocxxxx He was the biggest jazz drummer in the time period where jazz drummers where losing the '4 on the floor' bass drum pattern (bass drum on all 4 beats) and shifting the time to the ride cymbal and hihat, he was the first drummer to make a point of using all 4 limbs independently, he redefined jazz drumming by playing the swung jazz-ride pattern but making the bass drum strokes abrupt and un-syncopated (then called 'dropping bombs') and by mimicing melody and musical passages.
ThaDeeStylee 1 month ago
@ThaDeeStylee he redefined JAZZ not DRUMMING, there is a huge difference. And i when i say i have looked it up, that means ive read it, i have even taken 4 years of jazz classes (for guitar and bass, but still learned about all musicians). There are just other drummers that made a much more substantial impact on drumming itself and not just a style of music. Im in no way saying he is bad, i just wouldn't put him in the same category as gene krupa or buddy rich
shocxxxx 1 month ago
@shocxxxx You are allowed to have your own opinions, but the general drumming community puts bebop drumming a class above big band and swing; and thus Roach above Rich and Krupa. Also, those drummers didn't really do much to the styles they were playing besides raise the bar. That stuff is straightforward in a time when all western music was. Go back to your jazz class teachers and ask them which was more influential for drummers to come. Fame does not equal influence.
ThaDeeStylee 1 month ago
@ThaDeeStylee fame definitely helps influence, i suppose it doesn't directly equal it. And what you said about the general drumming community is just wrong, that is 100% opinion based. And my teacher was obsessed with chick webb, she rarely mentioned Max Roach
shocxxxx 1 month ago
@shocxxxx Bebop came from swing and was more advanced, most musicians agree on that. Modern Drummer put out a tribute issue to Roach after his death in 07. Jeff Hamilton, Roy Haynes, Tony Williams, Louie Bellson, Jack DeJohnette, Billy Hart, Densmore, Cobham, Erskine... all of these drummers regard Roach as one of the most important and influential drummers ever in that issue. Also the bebop era influenced more music to come, at this point.
ThaDeeStylee 1 month ago
@shocxxxx I'm really not trying to be an ass, I just feel like being an obsessive drummer for the better part of the past 8 years would have me reading more about drumming than you might've gotten around to. Drummers have more of a sense of community than other groups of musicians seem to, and I don't know of any other one drummer who is regarded as highly as Roach among us. Im pretty sure even Buddy Rich saw him as cutting edge, or else he wouldn't have agreed to do an album with him.
ThaDeeStylee 1 month ago
@ThaDeeStylee ive been a drummer for over 10 years though, so by your logic I have probably have read more about it than YOU have. I'm not trying to be an ass either, i just don't think personally he was one of THE MOST influential or game changing drummers, he is one of the good ones yes, i just personally don't put him up there. For me he had nothing to do with the reason i started to play, and he didn't change the way i played when i heard him. It's just a personal thing
shocxxxx 1 month ago
@ThaDeeStylee and i think you are going to local, you are trying to speak for all drummers when you probably only know a hand full or drummers yourself. Maybe in your circle of people no one is " regarded as highly as Roach" but i think you would be hard pressed to find any other group of drummers that think he deserves to be the most highly regarded drummer
shocxxxx 1 month ago
@shocxxxx drummerworld . com / drummers/Max_Roach.html
I think you should google the guy's name.
ThaDeeStylee 1 month ago
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@ThaDeeStylee you just fail to read what i am typing at this point, im sorry you dont understand what im trying to tell you. I have already told you i have been through classes that have discussed him and that i have looked him up, but i guess you just forgot.
shocxxxx 1 month ago
@ThaDeeStylee and the article you linked doesn't help your point much. Everytime it says he is one of the best or most important it says [citation needed] which means it was just some guys opinion
shocxxxx 1 month ago
@shocxxxx I didn't realize you were a drummer, friend. It does help, because I'm trying to tell you that there are a whooooole lot of random people with that opinion. I personally don't believe in 'bests' when talking about musicians, and I never said that. Just a boatload of drummers consider him the toward the top of the most influential drummers. You said that I'd be hard pressed to find em... I guarantee that neither of us would be. He isn't one of my influences, but he influenced them.
ThaDeeStylee 1 month ago
@ThaDeeStylee and again i have to say this because now it sounds like i don't like him. I do like him, and i think he is an excellent drummer. but i personally don't think he is the best.
shocxxxx 1 month ago
@shocxxxx Google Max Roach and Kenny Clarke again and actually read all of what you find. Those guys helped change drumming and invent bebop. By todays standards they aren't amazing but back then they were changing drumming.
ThaDeeStylee 1 month ago
interesting but the ending was a fail
QraQrJaq 8 months ago
@QraQrJaq He was creating a different sound man. People are attracted to different sounds, if you haven't already figured that out.
MrJellyman300 7 months ago
This is seriously not that good ... its good ... for like a drumteacher its brilliant ... but for a genius its nothing
Audi0Phil 8 months ago
@Audi0Phil Are you a genius?
MrJellyman300 7 months ago
I honestly don't know what's wrong with people. Let me start from the beginning. These are drum brushes. Drummers use them on songs that or more ballads.
People just don't know much about stuff like that when they think they know everything. For example, I saw a guy playing with brushes because he went acoustically on the drums. That's not acoustic. Especially when you rim shot every single hit and don't use brush techniques with them. I never saw the rolling of the brush itself. I thought tha
L3Gutierrez 9 months ago
Can someone explain to me exactly how he is doing that type of brushwork from 0:21 to 0:32
AStudCalledKyle 9 months ago
@AStudCalledKyle He is just rolling the brushes on the snare.
DrummerTSherry 8 months ago
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OMG this sucks my balls, it reyt does. i thought i was guna be watchin an awesome snare solo, but i got some guy trying to paint 1 by the looks. He might have some good techniques but this sure does suck my balls..................fuckin post then
118fucksake 9 months ago
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OMG this sucks my balls, it reyt does. i thought i was guna be watchin an awesome snare solo, but i got some guy trying to paint 1 by the looks. He might have some good techniques but this sure does suck my balls..................fuckin post then
118fucksake 9 months ago
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OMG this sucks my balls, it reyt does. i thought i was guna be watchin an awesome snare solo, but i got some guy trying to paint 1 by the looks. He might have some good techniques but this sure does suck my balls
118fucksake 9 months ago
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OMG this sucks my balls, it reyt does. i thought i was guna be watchin an awesome snare solo, but i got some guy trying to paint 1 by the looks. He might have some good techniques but this sure does suck my balls
118fucksake 9 months ago
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OMG this sucks my balls, it reyt does. i thought i was guna be watchin an awesome snare solo, but i got some guy trying to paint 1 by the looks. He might have some good techniques but this sure does suck my balls
118fucksake 9 months ago
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DearDiamondeyes 9 months ago
nice ludwig ROCKER head max!!
nocheeto 9 months ago
For sure not the greatest drummer of all time, but he had so many new ideas at the drumkit that many generations can learn and study from. He was an intellectual drummer, not an instinct animal like Buddy Rich. :o)
whity72 9 months ago
829 idiots so far. how the hell can it not like?
martin84jazz 9 months ago 2
@martin84jazz They don't understand this high level of musicianship.
Oblivion28694 9 months ago
829 DISLIKES? WTF?!
luke2thab 10 months ago
@luke2thab I know so many trolls its sad
disda1n 9 months ago
i'll bet he makes some mean scrambled eggs.......
dondorward2010 10 months ago 149
@dondorward2010
Dude I fucking cried when I read this comment.
bradybrignac 7 months ago
@dondorward2010 lmfao
E10TheMan 4 months ago
@dondorward2010
Thanks for the good laugh, scrambled eggs too funny ahhhhhaaaaaaaaaa can't stop oh that cracks me up!
64bbfan 3 months ago
At :27 the triplets he does by rolling each brush across the rim are clever. They're in time and even. What happens when he (literally) rolls the two sticks under the palms of his hands to create a drum roll is an insult to my ears. He tried something neat and in my opinion it failed. And the end... Taken out of context, SOMEwhat musically swishing brushes in a barely discernable pattern across a drumhead is hardly ground-breaking. He awesome, but this really isn't.
Fharad99 10 months ago
@Fharad99 id have to disagree with u on the rolling brushes. i like it when musicians do something unexpected. to me it sounded great and was a clever idea
drummer9042 10 months ago
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he is nigger
miskee12 10 months ago
@miskee12 And you're an ignorant asshole.
WindyCityJazz 10 months ago
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@miskee12
We dont care, asshole...
jmzhn 10 months ago
This makes me want to buy some brushes!
TheBallTongue 10 months ago
i met him on a few occasions , he really is a gentleman, a really class guy, along with being one of the best drummers.
jamprov 11 months ago
that wasnt that great.. that was like what i do when i grab brushes and fuck around. lol
chrisgr00ver 11 months ago
@chrisgr00ver except for the fact that he is playing against a melody and/or comping. So where you make senseless noise Max Roach is making music.
straitaheadjazz 11 months ago
@straitaheadjazz
this? he is doing nothing. little roll here and there, slap the brush's lol. ok hes playing in time, so what. why does this make him one of the greatest?
please answer <3
chrisgr00ver 11 months ago
@chrisgr00ver here you are again being a dick. just get over it, you'll never be as good as max roach.......ever. theres a reason he had a career that allowed him to play with the best musicians on the planet and lasted from the 1940's until his death in 2007.
rhythmatist2013 11 months ago
@chrisgr00ver The short answer: This video doesn't make him the greatest its just a one minute look at some max roach chops. Besides if you actually listen to the music before Max then listen to the music after Max, you may get a clue. Judging by your favorite videos you only listen to what people put in your lap. However, Steve Gadd would list him as a great and an influence so I find that a little ironic. So quit being a Chad Smith (even though I respect him) fanboy and expand your horizons.
straitaheadjazz 11 months ago 2
obama's dad's a beast!
angus500 11 months ago
Why do there always have to be Neil Peart fan boys on jazz drummer videos talking about how Peart is better? Take a look at Peart's attempt at playing jazz in the Buddy Rich tribute. The guy can't swing at all. If you tried getting a job leading a big band and played the way Peart did on that video you'd be fired before the first song was over. Peart is great, and my favorite rock drummer, but he does not have the skill of guys like Roach, Rich, Jones, Blakey, and Bellson, to name a few.
WindyCityJazz 11 months ago 5
@WindyCityJazz i made this same comment just not so eloquently worded. that dvd with neil playing was comparable to high school big band featuring someone who learned some peart licks.
coreyhewitt 11 months ago
He's the scambi egg chop suey mastah !!
DancingSpiderman 11 months ago
Hey drummers - we have to learn a lot!
Zorbasrhodos 1 year ago
Out of interst for the comments below about Carl Palmer, I had to look him up before commenting.
He is about as subtle as a sledgehammer.
Max Roach for me any day.
MrSheffield8 1 year ago
barrack obama :D
Milanito456 1 year ago
You guys who viewed this need to look up Carl Palmer's snare drum solo. It kinda makes this look pathetic with all due respect because I know they are both great. but it is what it is
Fairlynormalme 1 year ago
@Fairlynormalme i think if carl palmer read your comment, he would be ashamed to consider you a fan of his for saying anything max roach did is "pathetic" hey it is what it is....
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denisethepainter 1 year ago
im going to sound really ignorant but can someone explain to me why these guys are so famous? ive tried lsitening to max roach and philly jones and art blakely but i cant get myself to enjoy their drumming. Is it hard to play what they are playing?
forbasketballonly 1 year ago
@forbasketballonly
Why don't you try playing it and then get back to us...
TheLastPictureShow 11 months ago
@TheLastPictureShow
i don't have brushes nor a snare, which is why i specifically asked you buddy
forbasketballonly 11 months ago
he needs a new snare skin. there's hardly any scraping produced.
zephyrkhambatta 1 year ago
its cool and all but i just cant fit it into any music.
Ferryballs11 1 year ago
First, Drums Unlimited and Money Jungle are classics. Second, this vid demonstrates a specific jazz technique. If you're not a music student or a pro, don't worry about not getting what he's doing. Third, "clean" has been jazz slang since the 1930s for first-rate work. Lastly, nobody can whine and think at the same time. I knew Max and he was brilliant, always: "Jazz is a science." Every cat in New York begged in, chance came, to share time with this man.
blues4never 1 year ago
There's so much more to playing a snare drum than just smacking it on the 2+4.
Earthdogbonzo3 1 year ago
What's with all these stupid comments about cleaning the snare? They're called brushes people! Jazz drummers use them all the time, and I love seeing a drummer that has great brushwork. Anyone who has to make stupid "cleaning the snare" comments obviously doesn't know much about drumming.
WindyCityJazz 1 year ago
Max roach is really good but this just fucking sucks.
TheWorstMusicEver 1 year ago
bunch of PUSSY TROLLS.
max roach is a legend. like it or not. he heavily influenced anybody who influenced anybody who influenced anybody who influenced you.
and for the record. those of you who respect real musicians like max know; FEELING > SPEED & TECHNIQUE
sonofnothing 1 year ago
i'm not even going to read all the comments here because i can see that as with any thread of a good drummer, neil peart has to get brought up. peart is great at writing complicated drum parts and then reciting them for you exactly on a nightly basis.. basically regurgitating his drum part. max roach, and any competent jazz drummer for that matter, actually understand music and listening and that its about more then your chops and how loud and fast you can play. max roach is one of the best
coreyhewitt 1 year ago
@coreyhewitt "and then reciting them for you exactly on a nightly basis.. basically regurgitating his drum part."
Clearly you've never actually seen/heard Rush live if you're going to make such a hilariously ignorant statement. I respect Max Roach fine, and to be honest I don't really care for too much of Rush's discography, but if you think he's "regurgitating" you're just talking outta yer ass.
Also, I suppose when guys like Mozart kept playing the same pieces unchanged, that sucked too, lol
zgates 1 year ago
@zgates please watch a video of neil peart playing drums on the buddy rich tribute. he clearly is out of his element, cant swing, and sounds terrible. and in his solo, he uses tons of licks from his famous solo he plays every night.
coreyhewitt 1 year ago
@coreyhewitt And you left out that Peart is extremely over rated.
IwshIcldstrtover 11 months ago
If bob ross played the drums..
kickflips15 1 year ago
2 of my favorite drummers, Bill Bruford & Billy Cobham, were heavenly influenced by this man. Actually my 3 favorite drummers are probably Bruford, Cobham & Bozzio. There are many great drummers out there & I believe arguing over who's better than who to be immature, unintelligent & just downright pointless. Art is made to be enjoyed & appreciated not judged & compared. Music is not a competition or a sport it is a form of art. What a boring world this would b if everyone had the same opinions.
nickrella 1 year ago
I just watched someone clean a snare.
Chinodomon 1 year ago
@Chinodomon really, who? what did they use shoe polish?
rhythmatist2013 1 year ago
Sick brush work. Max is a legend
funpow5566 1 year ago
I feel bad for the 800 plus people who don't have open minds. Sorry, you have been brainwashed by the commercial popular media.
noahbirdrevolution 1 year ago
Not that fast and It's boring. No musical substance at all.
DudeItsAnAccount 1 year ago
You're not a drummer 'till you can play jazz. (;
eriknordinTV 1 year ago
It just shows that you don't need a kit to have a array of sounds, that one drum and some sticks or brushes can be sufficiant that your only limited by your creativity, I get this and I'm not even a drummer
jhump2431 1 year ago
i love neil peart, but max roach is an amazing drummer and always will be--817 morons saw this video btw......
dondorward2010 1 year ago
@dondorward2010 817 and counting, there will be more.
rhythmninja0987 1 year ago
i'm sorry but he's not the best drummer
GoggleMan25 1 year ago
LISTEN!!!! IF THERE WAS NO MAX ROACH THERE WOULD BE NO NIEL PERT. MAX ROACH'S INNOVATIONS LED TO THE STYLE OF DRUMMING WE HEAR TO DAY. IN THIS CLIP HE SHOWED A GREAT DEMONSTRATION OF BRUSH TECHNIQUE. IF YOU DO NOT FIND IT INTERESTING THAN ITS NOT FOR YOU. YOU SOUND CRAZY SAYING THE MAN SUCKED. INSTEAD OF MAKING AN ASS OUT OF YOUR SELF AND SAYING THE MAN HAS NO TALENT, SAY HIS STYLE OF MUSIC IS NOT FOR M ABD THEN WE ALL CAN UNDERSTAND.
dubblecheeze 1 year ago
that's funny.
diegogds 1 year ago
really cool.
B33fisGud 1 year ago
@B33fisGud Herman Li is rearry coor
DrummerZM 1 year ago
at 55 seconds hee looks like he is cleaning his drum skin :L:L:L:L!!!
123eddyyy123 1 year ago
um... someone explain to me how there are this many dislikes for this video. I just dont get it
clayton199997 1 year ago
@clayton199997 bunch of people who have no clue who max roach is, and just how influential he was to drums and music of the 20th century
rhythmninja0987 1 year ago
@clayton199997 most people suck cock
chemistryfu 1 year ago
not many people can do this much with just one drum
neurolepsybass 1 year ago
0:28 is just fail
Storviksbo 1 year ago