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  • that was an EPIC win by Edgar there! 

  • My favorite personal failure was when Edgar used the debilitator and made Doom Dragon weak to Holy. Edgar jumped and cast Holy and did 12000 damage to the dragon. Then it used Fallen One and killed me when Edgar's ATB Bar filled up.

  • 10:17 GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOOOO

  • YES! YES! I just killed the retainer after he cast condemned on me and I killed him right when the timer hit 0 and I won the battle!

  • Hey HC, I'm playing the psx version but I having trouble getting the dragon horn. Retainer doesn't die from poison. Do you think they fixed that on this version? Do all the tactics you use at the Colosseum wok in the psx version.

  • Can you get more then 1 rename card?

  • Damn you're good at this. nice!

  • GOOOOOOAAALLLLL

  • It's a bit harder to get that Masamune in the Advance version, though, because that monster has wicked high evade so I needed the Sniper Eye. After a few failed attempts, I decided TWO can play at this evade game, and in lieu of the Genji Glove, I gave him some Beads and a Green Beret. Sabin's attacks did less damage, but he hardly took any hits.

    Actually, I used that same strategy of raising my evade to get the Dragon Horn, too. So, if you're playing the Advance version, consider that.

  • LOL!!! Got that freakin' bird!!!!

  • wow this part was insane. it took me 90 minutes to get that goddamn dragon horn, & i'm playing it on ps3 so no save states. i can't imagine how many takes you recorded to get all this stuff. did you record the commentary live on every take as well, or did you wait till you won and act it out it afterwards? lol

    Anyway I almost gave up on this part, but i'm still totally keeping up with the walkthrough up to now. :P

  • A highly reliable way of fighting the Doom Drgn here is to use Relm equipped with a Regen relic.

    She often uses Sketch which will either Freeze the Dragon or knock it down to 1HP, obviously either of these are great.

  • Ha, "Marvel" Shoes.

  • The way I play ff6 nobody but Terra and Celes (sometimes Strago) ever get espers. It's mostly just a little challenge I enjoy doing but one of the added benefits is unless I'm using one of the aforementioned characters, nobody ever casts sleep or osmose or something stupid over and over in the coliseum thus losing my Ragnarok or other valuable item much to my chagrin. Sabin and his Spiraler (soul spiral to you advance players) have invoked my rage a time or two but for the most part...

  • MY EARS ARE BLEEDING

  • If you're playing the Playstation or SNES version, gear up to max out your physical/magical block, furthermore, if you have Gogo, make sure to use him/her/it, as "fight" and "mimic" will be his only commands, ensuring you don't waste turns on useless spells. Farmed 8 Marvel Shoes with a level 25 Gogo that blocked everything beside "Fallen One", which is unblockable, and can't even kill you. Like a boss!

  • Oh! I know why Retainer did not counterattack. Sabin's suplex did not kill him...but it was the damage that he took from being poisoned. Seeing that might be a good strategy to avoid Eye for an eye in future battles too.

    And all this is thanks to the fact that you posted this and then I watched this video! ;)

  • This vid was worth watching just for 10:22

  • That Bio Blaster really helped out in that last battle, every turn kept increasing the poison power on it.

  • omfg immediatly after typing that i fought the uppercutting guy he hit first left me with 1 hp then missed

  • is there a method for attacking more in the colliseum all my characters seem to want to do is cast life on themselves

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  • Personally, I kept the Regal Crown since, to my knowledge, it's the only one you can find in the entire game, and you can find Genji Equipment later in the WoR. But it's cool to see some different strategies for this game. We should have a FF6 duel one day, HC!

  • @GameBot31 The Charm Bangle can be found in a chest at the abandoned imperial camp after Gestahl unlocks it for you if you get the best results of his dinner banquet. You can also get a Dragon Horn in the Phoenix Cave by the Red Dragon.

  • S. Cross is Saints Cross i thought. Saints Cross is used in other final fantasies and ive never heard of South Cross. Hmm.

  • haha. YES YES YES! got em!

  • Yes I am veteran and you have to fight meeeee somewhere down the line to get Genji Armor. I am instant death, I am your worst nightmare Mha ha ha.

  • I can't win against retainer.. passing my 20th try now. Thank god for save states ]:

  • in the battle of Celes vs Aquila, couldnt u have equipped a relic for auto berserk, or somethin like that. sry, forgot the relic name

  • wow i just got soooo lucky on the retainer fight. sabin first move MUTE! and luckily the poison killed him after a couple of turns :)

  • I gave up on Gorgimera until I was able to negate Aero with Minerva!

  • how do you equip 2 of the same wepon? am i screwed do i need a relic?

  • @Toccaif331 Just equip the Genji Glove and you can equip any 2 weapons, even 2 of the same, it doesn't matter which.

  • @KeysofIDproductions 4 months later i practically beat the game twice since then

  • I'm having a horrible time trying to kill that giant dude Borras in the GBA version. Sabin keeps whiffing, even though he's the same level as in the LP. Maybe it's because of the evasion fix. I also somehow didn't get the Charm Bangle :( Guess I have to come back later.

  • I Hate Retainers sooooooooo much god i think it took me like 100 tries and I got pissed off everytime Sabin died.

  • Any win against the Retainer at this point in the game is an epic win! After 25-30 tries, i defeated it with Sabin who evaded a first "trade off" by himself, then cast vanish, finish the enemy and avoid the last "Trade off" attack with vanish.

    More epic you ask? Sabin was condammed and the enemy died at 0 sec! Too bad i couldn't record this....

  • 03:46 I'm not sure but maybe counter doesn't work if poison kills it

  • When you Win in the colosseum, do you lose the item you bet and retain the item won? Because every time i win I seen to have an item missing <.<. Any ideas?

  • Yes.  The item you bet is your entry fee and cannot be recovered.

  • Isn't Gilgamesh one opponent in the Colloseum in the Advance version? :o

  • Siegefried will appear in the coliseum equp right and well quick battle. don't and you will die. He is poweful. There are some really nasty enemys in the coliseum.

  • I just got the dragon horn, sabin used vanish after the first set of attacks so nothing could hit me but wind slash but the dumbass didnt use it

  • The Coliseum is 1v1. can someone tell me is raggarok worth betting. it can cast flare but i think the sword u can win can cast Peal but Flare is non-elemental so no monster can Absorb it but some monster can Absorb pearl.

  • I bet charming bangle and I won and received the dragon horn or something but my charming bangle is gone?

    so... you can win an item but you will loose the item you bet?

  • Well, you exchange an item for another, so... Yeah, that's the ticket.

  • The ending of this video is plain sweet. Quadra-Jump plus a Holy spell equals massive winning. You said the Dragoon Horn allows for four jumps, and then proved it at the end. Perfectly done, and I bet the game would be kicking itself if it knew that's what you wanted to have happen sometime onscreen while recording.

  • Suprised you didn't steal more Genji gloves from the floating continent's dragons for this. Genji gloves were one of my favorite relics.

  • Does meeting monsters here add that formation to the Veldt?

    Nice, Dragon Horn + Spear is akin to Genji Glove + Masamune or other high combo weapon in FFXII.

    How is Genji Shield more useful than the Gloves in this game, one that I thought offense outweighed defense?

    Doom Dragon is vulnerable to Poison damage? You would think Doom = Death = immune to poison.

    Debilitator reminds me of an animation from CT somehow.

  • No, the Coliseum doesn't add the encounter to the Veldt.

    Usually, I would agree with you about the Genji Gloves, but this is FF6. The majority of characters can deal maximum damage from the back row without the Fight command.

  • Wow, I'm surprised you even understood my sentence there, as I got distracted and missed retyping a few words that were in my thought.

  • @HCBailly how do you get to the Colosseum?

  • Retainer is freakin' evil in the arena! Not only that, I screwed up and gave Sabin magic so it's like he can cast magic all day and I can't get a hit on Retainer!

  • The worst experience that I had in the colosseum was when I selected Sabin to clean house and he opened the battle with his spiraler blitz. For those not in the know spiraler kills Sabin and heals all the other party members. So I died as soon as the atb filled.

  • Okay, me again. :( To my defense, I didn't make 3 posts in the same 10 minutes, I came back later.

    To clarify, Retainer doesn't counter if the poison damage happens right after an attack (or possibly, only right after a blitz). I finally managed to reproduce your results but with AuraBolt, but I'm pretty sure he does counterattack when the poison kills him not right after an attack.

  • Also, it wasn't the poisoning for you, HCB. I just did that and he countered with Tradeoff, even though at that point Sabin wasn't attacking, only the poison. Right after that, the Retainer died, so it must have been a counter-attack.

  • AAAAAAAARGH!!

    What I just experienced is so horrible, yet funny, that I just have to share it with everyone.

    I kept losing against the Retainer... I simply didn't do enough damage with my physical hits. Only 500, 600 tops. First I thought HCB made a mistake and said the wrong equipment setup but no setup let me do more than 800 damage on a single hit... Then it dawned on me: SABIN WAS IN THE FREAKIN' BACK ROW ALL ALONG!

    Like I said, AAARGH!

  • How are you soposed to win the Dragon Horn with out having to rely on Retainer dieing from poisoning?

  • Is there anywhere I can buy/get a Sniper Scope in the Advance version? I tried Sniper Eyes, but I got Typoned.

  • You can buy it back at Tzen.

  • In what shop?

    :(

  • @HCBailly where is the Colosseum at?

  • I thought you could buy the Falchion somewhere? I guess i need to look at GameFaqs again.

    You should be able to... That's how you get umlimited Flame/Ice shields..

  • At this point, I did not have access to buying Falchions, yet.

  • Do you plan on doing a playthough of the Dragon's Den or Soul Shrine? Many of the people that did videos of these places so far are so dull. With your playing style and added commentary, it would blow out any Dragon's Den videos to date! Good videos and keep up the good work!

  • pretty much anyone in colosseum can be killed with Dragoon Edgar.

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  • omg the outsider is getting me annoyed

  • Pearl Lance... Is that the Holy Spear most other FF games has?

  • In this translation Pearl is Holy it has just been filtered for some absurd reason that i don't know why but yeah Pearl is Holy anyway so yeah to answer your question The Pearl Spear Should be the Holy Spear

  • IIRC that's due to the fact that there were strict guidelines for translations (due to no rating system back then) and thus any and all religioud references were changed.

  • HOLY GOD! I just had the closest fight in this damn coliseum against Borras. Sabin had 91 HP left, no hope of victory, then out of nowhere he uses a desperation attack and destroys him.

    God this game is full of suprises.

  • I hate the arena. Anything that practically forces you to abuse guides and saved game reloads is definitely not okay in my book.

    A quadruple-jump attack followed by a random Pearl spell is pretty freakin' lucky, if you ask me.

  • It's one of the few places I will use everything I got to insure victory, even if it means a cheap victory. Other than that, I prefer challenge in my playthroughs.

  • you won the shoes that walt disney bought

  • I'm wondering where to get a white cape or whatever... =/

  • Quick question for anyone, really. I only got 22 guys at the dinner with the Emperor and missed out on the Charm Bangle. Only way I can get one prior to Phoenix Cave according to some sites is betting my Ribbon for Gold hairpin, the hairpin for the horn.

    My question is, I can either have: Ribbon and Marvel shoes and proceed with the game, or Dragon Horn and Marvel shoes?

  • You can bet a Snow Muffler, Moogle Charm, or Relic Ring in the Colosseum to win a Charm Bangle. But you may not have them yet.

  • I know you can get snow mufflers in unlimited quantities. Thanks for the tip! I see it IS possible to get as many Dragon Horns as you want.

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  • my 3 best characters to use in the colosseum are locke, edgar and shadow because locke has the valiant knife combination with the atlas armlet and offering relics, edgar because he can jump for a while in the colosseum and shadow because he can ignore instant death attacks.

  • ... You are so lucky. I restarted playing my Advance game and Sabin has been using the Spiral...? blitz for awhile. I can't well through my DS. xD

    BTW you CAN trade in the Gold Hairpin for the Dragon Horn or to get the Gold Hairpin betting in the Ribbon. I decided that since for some reason I don't have the Ward Bangle (Charm) I would go that route. It's... a bit easier during fighting too.

  • In the Advance version...wait, I already went through this in the World of Balance, didn't I?

    Well anyways, if you get the Excalipoor from the Jidoor auction house and bet it, you get the Merit Award which lets any character equip any piece of equipment, and you also fight Gilgamesh to get the Gilgamesh esper.

    Also, Clash on the Big Bridge is in the game data for FFVI Advance, but they didn't use it for the Gilgamesh battle. :/

  • Got that frickin BIRD! lmao

  • at what point should somebody give up on getting the Dragon Horn here? I've been running my emulator on fast forward for an hour, loading save states over and over and failing every time... damn, you're a lucky SOB.

  • It is really good, but you can find one in the Phoenix Cave eventually.

  • now I understand why you were so happy. I sounded the same way... had to go back to South Figaro and get a Bard's Hat to boost Sabin's Magic Evade... allowed him to dodge Tradeoff twice in the battle and WIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNN!!

  • You do have to be really lucky. I'm playing the Advance version and it's taken me an UNGODLY number of soft resets after losing till Sabin got lucky enough to dodge the Retainer/Yojimbo's instant death attack.

  • The worst is when Sabin decides to use Spiraler when fighting in the Coliseum. That led to many a thrown controller back in the day.

  • 3:43, because, he died of poison, not by Suplex

  • I think it's pronounced "soo-plex" but awesome vid nonetheless :)

  • I think you may want to quit while you're ahead on trying to correct HC's pronunciation.

  • Lol love the enthusiasm :)

  • but hc you forgot to do a bonus episode for sabin were he show us that he can suplex anything even more than a train

  • Are you gonna get the Merit Award here later?

  • You got the Marvel shoes? One word.... Shazam!!!!

  • The coliseum is fun because it's a nice break from the rest of the game, and you can get some really good stuff. The part I didn't like is that if you don't have an FAQ, it takes FOREVER to figure out what items give you good stuff. You just end up getting blown away by Chupon 2/3 of the time, and you have to save before every battle in case you get into a hard fight.

    I wish they told you beforehand what you'd get, and let you cancel the fight at that point (at the char. selection screen).

  • You're way too excited...

  • Lol, I don't think he's too excited. Do you have any idea how many times he must have done that in order to get it on tape? I'd be ecstatic if that happened to me hahaha.

  • o.O

  • I tried following the whole series but i got SOOOO lazy...

    Sorry...

  • Now THAT is a finishing move! Edgar really took out that dragon in STYLE!

  • I can sympathize with your...excitement. God knows how long I spent at the Coliseum trying to get some good equipment.

    Gave up after a while though v_v

  • Hahaha... that was funny... I can tell that it took quite a few retries to get this video. Thanks for the effort.

  • Love the fact that you can use thesame summon all the time.

  • get a Marvel Shoes for everyone :) I love auto-haste/protect/shell/regen items

  • HC is hyper today. XD

    Too much sugar?

  • Oh man...I forgot about how soon you can get things by going to the Colosseum...Genji Equipment, your mine...

  • Wish i had you when i first played through this game, your dset ups would have made this a lot easier than i made it out to be with random strategies and hoping for lucky shots haha.

  • Haha! Someones excited.

  • 3:32 I think the poison damage is what killed him perhaps that doesn't incite a counter attack.

  • Yeah that's what I get for commenting before the video's over. ;)

    Wow, way to own that Doom Dragon there.

  • ma ears hurt now...

  • Yes!

    Got am!

    Got that frickin bird!

    And goal... yeah... lol

    Loudest episode - ever

  • Nice going HC!

  • Haha you got quite lucky against that Doom dragon. ;p

  • loudest video ever

  • you have the master scrolls? to hit multiple times plus having some protection so there is no need to use genji gloves aaaaaaaand, edgar is awesome... but i think i like mog a little better...

  • I laffed at "GOT UM! GOT THAT FRICKIN' BIRD!!.... and the pearl lance, alright."

  • Aren't you going to... you know...

    Get, well.. you know..

  • shhhhh

  • LOL, I approve.

  • I laughed so hard at the "GOOOOOOAAAAALLLLL!". Excellent choice of exclamation.

  • Are you going to try and defeat Chupon eventually? And also a certain "imposter" character, if you know what I mean?

  • YAY CACTAUR!!!! not cactrot

  • does the pearl lance have a chance of casting holy on who ever is hit buy it? i'm guessing that's what happend at the end of edgar's fight wit the doom dragon.

  • Yep.

  • That would be correct.

  • 7:48 "YES! Got that frieakin' bird!"

    I'm assuming there was death and cursing associated with that battle. :P

  • Wow ahahaha you get so hyped up XD

  • oh, about the Marvel Shoes, if you feel like saving your Elixirs (not that you need to), but you can do: Imp Halberd -> Cat Hood -> Merit Award -> Rename Card -> Marvel Shoes.

    (since Imp Halberd is such a random drop, it's easy to just go nuts with it, especially if you're training), I know that you personally are not training, but to everyone else, that's a way to get it without using your precious elixirs

  • Marvel Shoes are my favorite Relics in the game, I always have all my party members wearing one at all times

  • Nice Pearl proc that was Epic!!

  • 02:26 YES! YES! YES! lmfao

  • When you win a battle here, do you keep the item that you bet and win the prize, or do you lose the item that you bet and just win the prize?

  • You lose the item you bet and win the item you are fighting for.

  • 1 more video away from 1000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you going to do anything special for your 1000th video?!?

  • do you keep the item that you betted on

  • Nah, whether you win or lose, the item is gone.

  • If I remember correctly, if you get sneezed out of a colosseum battle, you get your original wager back. But otherwise, win or lose, your original bet is gone.

  • Yeah, youŕe right, if Chupon sneezes you out of battle, then you keep the item. Thanks for correcting me on that.

  • I love you hc, you are so childish and excitable, its brilliant, I don't think I can ever watch one of your videos and not be smiling at the end, even the cliffhangers are brilliant, thanks and keep up the good work :D

  • You betted genji glove!? I had two of them to give terra/celes better magpower. O.o

    well genji shield is good tho but you could get them from dante enemies. How many genji gloves you have?

  • There are tricks to get infinite Genji Gloves >.>

  • I'll be honest, I'm not a fan of the Genji Gloves in the World of Ruin, beyond using them for the Colosseum. High defense and elemental protection from shields are the way to go.

  • *Pearl is cast from Pearl Lance* GOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!

  • This was pretty awesome. I always had so much trouble with that Doom Dragon.

    I usually bet the Czarina Gown for the Minerva for Celes at this point too. You'll see why later in the LP...it's very useful.

  • one trick that i learned that works for me, cast imp, and equip genji glove, 2 imp halbreds, titanium helmet, and whatever is the chest peice i dont remember, you get max attack and defense basically,

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  • what about Gilgamesh??

  • That's only in Advance version. He isn't present in original SNES version.

  • Gilgamesh is only available in the GBA version, he's one of four bonus espers that can be won. You bet a new item you can win at the auction (Excalipoor, requires a LOT of gil), and you can bet it then to fight Gilgamesh. I believe you'll have use of all your party and you can control the battle, it's not like a colisseum battle.

  • haha, he won with 1 HP. very nice

  • Haha you were REALLY excited in this video.

  • That was an awesome ending to the Doom Dragon fight.

    Also, HCBailly, do you plan on "flying high" to defeat the boss of a very long tower climb, if you know what I mean?

  • lol it was funny to see you so excited after every win. Nice to see you still having fun with this game even though you say you've played it so many times.

  • O why why did I not heed the warning, but any way that was interesting an i would never of thought HC could be so... exuberant.

  • i liked the ending lol

  • 999th video. One more for 1000.

    Are prepering something to celebrate that??

  • Borras Rules !

  • you are mad lollllll

  • Out of curiosity, will you be fighting a certain battle in the colisseum in which most of the time you usually get "fried" if you know what I mean.

    ;)

  • Interesting, you remembered all the battles...

  • Hc, are you gonna do the Econimizer (1 MP relic) Trick with a certain character?

  • as far as that jump combo goes im going to give that to mog once i get him back...

  • do they sell genji gloves anywhere?

  • No they don't

  • No i think you can make them with the ragnarok though. from the samurai looking dudes in that one place..... also i think you can steal them with locke on the floating continent. but i think you can get 3 with normal progression through the game and really you dont need many. Also I dont know if hes gonna go for the sword or the esper, I always go for the sword though, because the best sword in the game to me beats being able to get an infinite supply of relics I all ready have anyway.

  • But the esper teaches a..should I say.."Ultima"te magic.

  • So does the paladin shield

  • but u can steal a ragnarok later...

  • The fact that you can steal ragnaroks from a certain boss makes the sword much less useful. Or is that only in the advance version?

  • You can steal a ragnarok I believe but its from one of the final bosses, and you can't go back after that point so I never heard of stealing it elsewhere, it is probably advance version only.