WCW Nitro: October 13th 1997: Raven "We're all prisoners"

[StewartLucrative]

Inb4 cena fan dislikes.

Raven is a fucking genius.

[Ouroboros171]

So Shall It be Written, So It Shall be Done!

THANK YOU,

KIMY

[MrMobsterking]

Raven and Sting make the BEST promos..

[Brion671]

Ok Jake was good but Warrior? He wasen't know what he's talking about.

[tannerlittleton]

@Brion671 Warrior sounded like a caveman on crack.

[Brion671]

There are only 3 persons in wrestling making great promos and this persons are: Raven, The Undertaker and Kane.

[tannerlittleton]

@Brion671 Add Jake Roberts to that list.

[StraightPunkEdge93]

@Brion671 Don't forget the Ultimate Warrior. That dudes promos were fucking crazy.

[alexangel3030]

@Brion671 and what about Chris Jericho ? Y2J  makes always greats promo's

[Brion671]

@alexangel3030

Y2J? Hmmm, wasn't good but also wasn't bad. He's promos haven't got this kind of poetry language.

[alexangel3030]

@Brion671 i know but in WWF/WWE he evolved his character and he becamed better on the mic skills ;)

[raven2k12]

Yes, the promo that made me legally change my name to Raven!

[Theraven69666]

just... perfect

[y2taner]

Raven to be in the next twilight movie bahahaha he actully might make the vampire movie sceary

[timothy32]

I have feelings of loneliness & sadness & abondment. :(

[badbabybear1]

Love it. Raven goes beyond being a wrestler and is a poet. I like how he sits next to the crib (a symbol of innocence) and how he's hidden in darkness and the way the bells undercut his dark words. How he never became a world champion is beyond me.

[nozoto]

@badbabybear1

He's already a hardcore legend, and that makes him greater in my eyes than some of overpushed wrestlers who became champions...

[y2taner]

@badbabybear1 he was going to be a world champ dusty rhoads said he was the next ric flair in wcw when dust rhoads was working there but somother guy said no cause he didnt like raven persionally. so shit happens

[wrestlefan2107]

@badbabybear1 2 Time ECW World Champion and NWA world Champion :)

[thelonelylama64]

@badbabybear1 He was a world champion

2 time oringal ECW Champion and 2 time NWA Champion

[andriod002]

@badbabybear1 he was hardcore champion 27 times and held it for 3 and a half years

[MentalMessiah]

@badbabybear1 He's a 3 time world champion. 2 times in ECW and once in TNA.

[WorkingClass83]

@badbabybear1

You're wrong, he's a 3 times World Champ (2 ECW, 1 NWA).

Maybe he deserved more titles, sure.

[carlinrulez666]

@WorkingClass83

When Raven won those Titles they weren't given World Title status. The ECW Title was given World Title status in July of 1999, and the NWA Title was given back its World Title status in June of 2006 for the first time since January of 1991. Raven isn't recognized as a World Champion as a result.

[jaketno]

@carlinrulez666 ive always known the ECW title to have gotten status in august of 94

[carlinrulez666]

@jaketno

The ECW Title was created in 1992, when it was Eastern Championship Wresting. When ECW broke away from the NWA in August in 1994, they changed it to Extreme Championship Wrestling, and changed the ECW Title as well. It wasn't recognized as a "World Title" by Pro Wrestling Illustrated until July of 1999. Any wrestler who won the ECW Title from July 1999 until January 2001, is a World Champion, like Taz, Steve Corino, Justin Credible, Rhino, Tommy Dreamer, Jerry Lynn, Sandman, etc.

[jaketno]

@carlinrulez666 i see what you mean now damn it sucks that raven hasnt done it though

[carlinrulez666]

@jaketno

I agree. Raven should have been World Champion. He was well deserving of that. He may have had a run as WWE or World Champion, but I heard that when he was known as Johnny Polo, he went partying with Shane McMahon a lot back in '93 and '94, and Vince never gave him a push, even when he returned to the WWE in 2000.

[carlinrulez666]

@jaketno

At least that anyone that won the ECW Title when the WWE brought it back, won't be recognized as World Champions, unless they won a World Title from the WWE or some other company. Guys that have only won the ECW Title during that time from 2006-2010, guys like Bobby Lashley, Chavo Guerrero, John Morrison, Matt Hardy, Ezekiel Jackson, etc. aren't recognized as World Champions.

[t3chn013]

@badbabybear1 Words of truth right there.Also this promo is superb and the fact that Raven didn't become a world champ in any MAJOR wrestling promotion is just sad.

[shanomacbry]

@t3chn013 He was world champ in TNA. Which may not be as good as WWE or WCW, but it meant something. And he was ECW champ, one of the Big Three. Though, he should have been WCW and WWE champ as well, no question.

[stoningtonj]

@badbabybear1 hes a 2 time NWA world champion (the only belt i still feel matters) and an ECW champion.

[ForeverHardcore1313]

:O... that is all.

[DrGnockerz]

Raven is the master of promos!

[jlcochran]

Creepy, yet awesome.

[kanedasrifle]

One of the greatest promos ever!