Sometime rhetoric doesn't cut it with bigotry ... sometimes leading with amazing and letting other people wallow in their own hatred is enough. To everyone that hates anyone for whatever reason ... you're great!! To all the homophobes out there: I want to suck your dick! BAM! Deal with it!
It's a shame that the "gays" aren't being given the help they need. People with a severe handi-cap or schitzophrenia aren't neglected in this way. Give them the medicine to correct there illness, thats what i say! Who's with me. Lets sing a song -
My goodness. Perhaps instead of having your judgement clouded by emotionalist rhetoric, use reason. False compassion and false charity is not Christian. The romanticizing of a pathology is destructive. A pathology because it's rooted in a consumptive understanding of relationship and another and a fear of sexual intimacy with the opposite sex because of the unknown. The purported biological are fallacious: correlation is not causation, and theories weak. Marriage is religious, not gov't instit.
@crewalpha "Marriage is religious, not gov't instit." Ok, fine. If it's only the word you care about, then call it something else!!! There are lots and lots of federally recognized benefits to being married. Civil unions are state based, and therefore not federally recognized for many of the benefits. That is flat out discrimination!!! Don't call it marriage, but fight for equal rights! Jesus would be embarrassed with the writing of the Bible and it's interpretation, I assure you.
@CaptainShadowCross Exactly my point! no one is self righteous! All have sinned and fallen short of his glory! I speak against every sin including my own! I am a believer and What I am doing is presenting the scripture to people and proclaiming Biblical truths! It's up to you to accept it or not!
jacob wat u propagate in yr spech is true 2 lrge extent v claim to be the best creation of the Almighty but its dichotomous on our part to subjugate issue like the ones you raise simply bcoz they appear bizarre to some supposedly enlightened members of our race...i.e. our policy makers.individuals have little cntrol ovr sexual orientation.wil take some time for d society to hav a mor cohesive environment for the homosexuals n maybe live in coherence with dem.Rome was not built in a day.isn't it?
@MrGwaneDM Yes, only a man and a woman can procreate. But that isn't the point of marraige. You completely ignored my comment saying that marraige is about love - and the part about sterile couples, meaning a male and a female who can NEVER reproduce.
Homosexual activists understand the power of words.
Please visit my channel to watch a one-minute video clip in which popular atheist author Richard Dawkins admits that homosexual activists "hijacked the word 'gay'".
The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate because it, unlike the word "gay", actually describes the behavior/attraction/relationship being discussed.
The word "gay" helps homosexual activists push their agenda.
@lightandbeautiful@lightandbeautiful hahahaha! You think gay helps people advance the homosexual agenda...Go tell a kid to have a gay time with his friends and see what he associates with it- a "disgusting" taboo, or being happy and joyful. Who cares where it came from or who started it? You act as if Don't Ask Don't Tell would still be in place were it not for those meddlin' fags that started saying gay.
@lightandbeautiful Also, in your page you insist homosexuality is a choice...the only way you could know that for sure is if you've had the opportunity to make that choice.....................................did you have something you wanted to tell us all?
@lightandbeautiful Scientifically unproven? Really, include a link to the evidence or explain please. Just because it isn't conducive to being procreative doesn't mean you can't be born with it. Thus, dwarfism, Down Syndrome etc. etc. etc. all exist today. And if you don't believe it's a choice, I don't know how you think it's so wrong. You don't have to want to kiss guys to be fore equal rights. Fine, I get it. Marriage is a religious term. Call it something else, but let their be equal rights!
@MrGwaneDM Then, by your logic, you must not agree with sterile couples, who can NEVER have children through procreation. The purpose of marriage is not procreation but love, a feeling that both heterosexual and homosexual couples feel.
@CaptainShadowCross If you exegete the scriptures found in Genesis chapters 1 and 2 corectly you will find that the teaching there tells us that God created woman to become a suitable helpmate to man. You will also see that God tells them to replenish the earth which is repeated to Noah later in Genisis chapter 8. The proof of this is found in human biology. the design of our bodies supports heterosexuality and contradicts homosexuality.
@MrGwaneDM Human biology supports healthy DNA and contradicts Down Syndrome too. Just because homosexuality is not conducive to procreation doesn't mean it's a choice. In Leviticus, a passage says homosexuals shall be put to death. There's a passage that says you should be put to death if you "curse" your parents (I take it to mean swear?). Some passages condone slavery. The Bible isn't always right. It's only a matter of time before being gay is viewed as nothing more than what it is: harmless.
@yaketyjak IF you properly interpret the text in Leviticus you will find that when it talks about homosexuals shall be put to death it is talking spiritual death. What sin does is separate humans from God. Everytime you sin you separate yourself from God. I don't know about you but that is enough harm done.
@MrGwaneDM I would love to know how you came up with that interpretation. Why do you ignore the fact that the Bible condones slavery? It even describes how big of a "rod" you can beat your slave with!!! I could point out passages, or you could google it and find loads of information. Just admit that the Bible is PLAGUED with PLENTY of inconsistencies and false statements. Why is it that you cling to the homosexual references? Oh yeah, you're homophobic.
@yaketyjak What you fail to understand is that slavery in biblical times was different from the slavery that was practiced in America.Slavery was more a matter of social status. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their families.Some people actually chose to be slaves so as to have all their needs provided by someone else.
@MrGwaneDM If it was a matter of social status and simply "indentured servitude," then why does it say how hard you're allowed to beat your slave? The Bible is disgusting and I can guarantee if Jesus proofread it he would not be pleased. When it's in your favor, everything is fact. When it isn't, then they're just "stories meant to be symbolic of true lessons" and all that happy horse shlt.
@MrGwaneDM I just think that you are uncomfortable with seeing gays express their love. Which is in a way, understandable, because you aren't gay. That doesn't make it wrong. I'm gay, and when I see guys kissing it still surprises me a little bit...BECAUSE SOCIETY MAKES IT THAT WAY!!! People seriously used to think blacks were disgusting and that drinking from the same fountain was wrong. It's the same thing here. You've been conditioned to be grossed out because it has been made a huge taboo.
@yaketyjak Let me assure you that as a Christian bible believing African American nothing surprises me living in this sinful, ungodly world. Just becuase the World or this society is becoming more accepting of the gay lifestyle doesn't negate the fact that the bible clearly speaks out against it. I am sorry but if you are a gay christian then you need to repent so you can be closer to God!
@MrGwaneDM Also, I want to point out that the line I was referring to in Leviticus included the words "their blood shall be upon them." I would LOVE to know how that translates to "spiritual death." Don't call it marriage if that's your issue. But gays should absolutely have equal rights. This civil union BS is NOT equal. LOTS of federally recognized marriage benefits are not given to gays. Discrimination. Period. Fine, see it as a choice or as sinful. But be in favor of equal rights!
I think if gays want to be looked at as married, the Government should give the union another title and allow laws to provide certain family rights to gays. This must be limited though for what is healthy for society. Psychologists state that children must have the mother father figure for best development. I feel children must be protected from a union like this. Also, I feel gays will treat straight people like their baby factories. You will be asking us to make babies for you. Make your own!
@ttsoraklidis "Make your own"? No reason to be cynical. Giving gay parents a fair chance to adopt is all we want. No one is making any heterosexual people produce babies in their stead. Surrogacy is in fact a rare way that male-male couples have kids. And about your claim on what psychologists say: cite your sources. What you're claiming is not even close to what the mainstream position on this is.
Jason didn't make this just about civil unity between man & man. He is talking about God and the church to accept it too. The church cannot accept spiritual and psychological problems as something to change its self over. The church is here to help with conditions like these. It's like asking a hospital to change what it knows about aids so aids isn't looked at as bad anymore. If Jesus Christ was walking with us, he would heal the illness. but Knowing gays, you would order GOD to accept it
@ttsoraklidis HAHAHA, I find it more than pathetic when people presume to know what Jesus would do. Don't you see how arrogant that is??? Your analogy doesn't make the remotest bit of sense. AIDS is a deadly disease. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation. How are those two logically connected? If anything you're making a case for your mental incapacity.
@ttsoraklidis Oh, the ignorance. When I was younger, I turned to religion to help me. I never wanted to be gay. I tried my best to suppress it. Then I grew up and realized that the Bible was full of lies, inconsistencies, and false statements. It wasn't very fun trying to hide and wish I would change. Your God will do as much to help homosexuals as he did to stop the Holocaust. If it's an illness, as you say, who chooses to be sick? And why would you be punished for being ill?
Marriage has always been a religious sacrament. Marriage is a Holy Sacrament and religious laws have the say on marriage. Technically speaking, a bicycle can have 3 wheels, but then it wouldn't be a bicycle. Technically, a man & a man can get married, but then it wouldn't be a marriage. Homosexuals to get married would have to call it something else. coz u want to get the laws changed, I shouldn't have to call my wife, "domestic partner". The definition of marriage must always stay the same.
@ttsoraklidis Really? Are you from America? Because there, you don't get any benefits for being married unless it's done civilly. Marriage is as secular of a thing as celebrating your brithday. Get your facts straight.
@ttsoraklidis Fine. I'd settle for a marriage equivalent with a different name, if all you care about is the original word. The point is, if that's the case, then why does government give marriage benefits to those engaging in a specific "Holy Sacrament," but not others? The government is not supposed to make laws favoring any one religion.
Unbiased point of view here.. I am an Orthodox Christian and it is very clear what Apostle Paul says about homosexuality. But leaving this aside, Lets look at what being gay is. If you wake up in the morning with a penis, and your mind is telling you that it doesn't want to use it or have it for its purpose, then it is a deformity that must be looked at by doctors and your spiritual father. Animals that have this become extinct. This is not religion telling you. Nature and science is.
@ttsoraklidis Naturally and biologically speaking, man and woman were created to fit together perfectly. A woman is the only suitable helpmate for Man. After the marriage covenant, the two become one flesh. Gays and lesbians do not have an arguement there and cannot dispute that fact!
@MrGwaneDM Actually: BIOLOGICALLY speaking, man and woman were not created at all. You derive your statement from anything but a biological or natural point of view but merely from your dogmatic understanding of a flawed holy book that you were indoctrinated to believe cover to cover. So let me translate your statement to what you actually meant to say: "My Bible says gay is bad. At least I was told that it did. Never questioned it really. So I'll blindly go along with that. Yay for bigotry!"
@InsertTruthHere I derived my statement from the fact that a man has sperm and a woman has eggs. My statement comes from the fact that a Man's body comes together with a female body perfectly in order to procreate. You don't need much faith to see that truth. How is that a flawed understanding? How can you deny that fact about human nature?
@MrGwaneDM Then you must also disagree with contraception and celibacy which also cannot produce children. Adultery is a far more common 'sin' but not much is said about that anymore. Yet, Jesus nor the Ten Commandments do not say one word about homosexuals - but both speak on adultery.
@ihsrc If you properly interpret the text found in Matthew Chapter 5, the words of Jesus at the sermon on the mount, you will find that the word used for Adultery encompasses all sexual sin to include homosexuality. Go back and study the original text. The reason why the text is in red is not only because it's the words of Jesus, its because he did not speak in Greek so it was translated several times before it was translated into english
@MrGwaneDM So, according to you, Matthew 5 could also read "Do not commit homosexuality.’But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed homosexuality with her in his heart". It doesn't, but even if it did mean all sexual sin - why do you speak so feverishly against only homosexuals - when adultery is far more common? There may be 7 verses about homosexuals - but there are 277 verses on Pride.
@InsertTruthHere How can you say that I am a bigot or imply that I have a lack of understanding when you dont know me from Adam? Yes I believe that homosexuality is a sin just like cheating on your wife or having sex before marriage but I do not believe that homosexuals should be mis treated in any way. We should love our homosexual brothers and sisters and not judge them but not condone the act.
@corral973 Keep your scare tactic to yourself. If the whole world were sterile, the human race would definitely die out, and more people are sterile than homosexual, so....
@corral973 what's your point? gays didn't just spring out of nowhere last year. They've been here for long, long years just like straight people and guess what, human race is still here. Legalizing gay rights isn't going to suddenly turn whole straight people gay and no one gets to have children (which by the way is a wrong assumption too since two men can have a child too..every heard of adoption?) You gotta accept that some are gay and get over it, just like how some are straight like me.
Homosexual activists understand the power of words.
Please visit my channel to watch a one-minute video clip in which famous atheist Richard Dawkins admits that homosexual activists "hijacked the word 'gay'".
The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate because it, unlike the word "gay", actually describes the behavior/attraction/relationship being discussed.
The word "gay" helps homosexual activists push their agenda.
In Argentina same sex marriage has been legal for over a year now, and neither society nor family as an institution have fallen apart.In the speech given by our president, Cristina Fernández, during the official act in which she signed the law, she said these beautiful words: “Today I woke up with the same rights I had yesterday. No one took anything from me. This law only grants right to millions of citizens, without taking anything from anyone else, and that’s what’s beautiful about this law”
Jacob is right. Gay and Straight people don't choose their sexual orientation. We are who we are. If you love someone, it is be honored, blessed and celebrated. Loving relationships are what we need more than ever. Children deserve to be loved by loving people. Maybe the belief that homosexuality is a sin, is really not a God Belief, but a man-made law to keep the lineage alive because in the olden days people didn't live long. It's time to make a new amendment. Keep the dialogue going!
@sparklesthatfade Your argument swings both ways. There's also no proof besides people's words - probably tainted by society - that homosexuals choose to be that way. Science supports that they were born that way, and common sense practically screams it. People don't choose a life of torment, hatred, fear, discrimination, and suicide.
@ALittleBrutalDrummer no one said i labeled you bad. although you are a sinner like the rest of us. i dont believe people are born gay and their is no prove for it besides peoples words (which have probably been tainted by society) so it's not a racist issue. and i have a very open mind. im a Christ-follower and the bible has told me its a sin so i say its bad.
I believe that the bible is the true word of God and everything in it is useful for teaching and helping people and for correcting them and showing them how to live. This is an outstanding speech given by this young man Nick Jonas. He has brought up some points that I agree with wholeheartedly as it relates to the treatment that most homosexuals receive in our society. I dont agree with how he tries to justify his lifesyle as if its ok by God.
@ericelango I doubt that calling him a "freak" or a "pervert" is a very Christian thing to do. You would deny him Christ's salvation? There is only One who has that right. So don't call upon Jesus's name either, until you can follow His precepts with a heart, loving all of God's children.
@ericelango Don't call yourself Christian or don't speak out Jesus' name, you are not fit to say out his name because you are Satan... U will be punish in HELL for eternity.
Jesus love everyone, normal,LGBT... So stop hating or else you will suffer !
@MrBettis363636 Who cares even if it is? It's from the Bible, which isn't a credible source at all, and also it's from the Old Testament, which (obviously and fortunately) doesn't apply.
@MrBettis363636 First, we are not under the Old Testament Law, which was only intended for the Jews anyway, not the gentile world. Second, it says they could not lay with a man "as with womenkind". A man could not bitchslap a sissyboy as he might a woman who was subservient to a man in that culture. Doing that to a man degraded the way they looked at men. This 'man as with woman' would have been a male prostitute. That is what this verse meant, not monogamous homosexuals.
@JC4crs There is a major difference between pedophilia and homosexuality...an most pedophiles are heterosexual. Also, people can't really be turned homosexual. So you are incorrect.
@CaptainShadowCross THANK YOU!!! Finally someone else who's done some freaking resseach on pedophilia. Pedo's aren't always homosexual. Sorry, i've done a lot of resseach, because of what happened to me.
evil bible dot com = for people using the Bible against Gays and Lesbians.Education = for people who are using anything else against Gays and Lesbians.
Do you know that's utter nonsense? It was removed by several organisations because they realised it isn't a disease. Homosexuality is nothing like necrophilia (sex with corpses). Both homosexuality and heterosexuality occurs between two consenting adult. Necrophilia - one person is dead, so it cannot be consensual.
@michaeljacksonisnotd Do you know that's complete nonsense? It was removed by several organizations because people finally began to realise that it wasn't and isn't a disease. And it's nothing like necrophilia (sex with corpses). Homosexual and heterosexual relationships are between two consenting adults. Necrophilia - one person is dead, so it cannot be consensual.
do u know that doctors deleted gay disease from the list of diseases coz gay people wee pressuring them? It's actually a disease and even my gay friends say that it's very high % of freaks and psychos in a gay community. It's ok when man have a fetish for example,but he wants it with woman, but wanting person who has same sex, that is like when people having sex with corpses...They fucking already have more rights than straight people and u want to give them more? u're fucking freaks...
@michaeljacksonisnotd first being gay is not a disease, and for the rights they mean the same rights as everyone else has, for ex. you can get fired just for being gay and there is nothing you can do about it. and for people who think being gay is unnatural than how come most animals are bisexual?
@rathb18 not desease coz octors deleted it under gay pressure? it used to be and it's a fact that gay community was pressuring doctors...It's like Chikatilo was a freak but psychiatrists under victim's relatives made a conclusion that he is ok...
Sorry i never heard of anyone was fired of coz he is gay...It's probably hog gay people explain it. It's like police arresting black guyu who came with gun in a bank and he screams that they arrest him coz he is black:((Thank u for ur answer:)
@michaeljacksonisnotd u would only think homosexuality is a disease because to you its unnatural, but how would u know its unnatural? for us to explain to you, its like explaining what true love is to someone who never really experience it untill him/her experience it. we love who we love, we are sexually attracted to who we are, no one can turn us GAY just like how NO ONE can turn you gay.
@michaeljacksonisnotd ."They fucking already have more rights than straight people and u want to give them more? u're fucking freaks..." sorry we homosexuals do not have more rights than hetero, infact in some countries we are punished to death sentence, we are not asking for a privileged rights, we are only asking for equality. to be treated as a person, to be able to have a life with the partner we love, and a family of our own.
@rathb18 YES IT IS!!! it's a sickening MENTAL disease!! of Perverts and predators who target small children and turn them into NEW HOMOs. just like the guy speaking here. He doesn't even know that someone abused him since he was a small child so he thinks he was "born that way" Sickening PERVERTS!
@Betzm36 The word homosexual did not even exist in the time of the Bible. Any Bible you read that mentions it was altered later (such as the King James Bible) and is therefore invalid on that score.
@CaptainShadowCross It's true that homosexuality was not a term that was used in those days. But I think it still is referring to homosexual behavior. If you look at th verse from Romans, you see that the word homosexual isn't used at all but is still describeing homosexual behavior.
@CaptainShadowCross To me it seems clear and I do not think it was misinterpreted by translators. The subject comes up several times and it always comes up condemning homosexuality. I think the chance that they are all mistranslations is slim. The bible talks about the joining of a man and a women and how anything else is an impure act. I doubt the meaning has been lost to that extent through the several translations the Bible has been through. I believe that God has had control over it.
@Betzm36 Beginning in Leviticus 25:44 the Bible outlines who can be bought as a slave.. So then is slavery ok? And if the translating of the Bible has in fact been protected by God, then why in the Hebrew text is the plural word for God; Elohim used? This would change the whole meaning of the BIble. Gen 1:1 would say, "...the Gods created.."
@jbach220 These topics can get a bit complicated. I'm going to start ansering these questions and comments with personal messages, especially since we are beginning to stray from the topic of homosexuality. If you want to message me then just send me a personal message. I don't want to completely take over the comments for this video. By the way, nice job jacobk with your speech. I may not agree with many things you said, but I commemorate your hard work on this well presented speech.
@Betzm36 Are you aware that the Bible never specifically mentions homosexuality, and that leading anti-gay Christians like Dr. Robert Gagnon believed those sections of Leviticus to refer to homosexual cult prostitution, not consensual love?
@CaptainShadowCross I don't believe taht to be the case with the Leviticus passages. Ther are several more passages from other books that deal with this too.
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor HOMOSEXUAL offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
@CaptainShadowCross I've heard of many ways people try to wiggle around the meaning of some othese passages, but I think they are just trying to justify what they want to believe. They always try to twist the words and not look at what I believe to be the real meaning of the text.
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
14 year old boy: I have a dream that one day we will not be judged by who we love but by the content of our character.
@ALittleBrutalDrummer I know this sounds good and all. I'm just trying to help. I believe that in order to get to heaven you must have faith in Jesus Christ. If you do not then you are condemned to hell. How much would you have to hate someone to let them go to hell.
@ALittleBrutalDrummer It was nice talking with you, and I don't mean that in a sarcastic way. I just ask that you think about some of these things. Are you a drummer? I am too, that is if you say yes to the previous question. See Ya
There are some things in spanish that cannot be directly translated into english, how do you know through countless translations, people have not misinterpreted things?
@ALittleBrutalDrummer I believe that God has had his hand in it. The holy spirit tells me what I'm hearing is true. I know that can sound sort of wierd but I believe it to be true. Is there a way we can continue this disscusion without posting all of these comments on this guy's video?
Ive been baptized, done my communion, and confirmation. Therefore, I too believe the holy spirit is within me. But not because of those sacraments, but because I know in my heart I am a good person and I do not judge. I I don't know who anyone is to tell a person they're not good people who can tell what is right from wrong because they lack sacraments. And eye witness is very weak, do your research. Not to mention people perceive things very differently from person to person, also translations!
and I guess you missed the part where it says there are biological differences between gay and straight men. Also, no one is completely straight. Sexuality is on a balance and no person is on either end. Some people just happen to fall in the middle or more toward one side than the other.
"It's been determined that sexual orientation is not purely based on genetics."
source?
if its not genetic then it requires that homosexuality be somehow learnt, the problem with this being is that in 2008 swedish researchers found that the structure of a gay males brain was more alike a straight females than a straight males and vice versa for lesbians, so unless brain formation is learnt then homosexuality is genetic, i'd be happy to PM you a link to an article on the study.
@ourorboros2 Even in this study they determined that the genetic make up was not the sole cause for homosexual attraction. When talking about the differences in sizes in the hypothalamus, the statistics were not really as surprising as they lead you to believe. The media obviously likes the idea that Homosexuality is genetic and they always jump on these studies and over exagerate everything. I've been looking around that site I gave you and it has answers on a lot of these topics
firstly the study you're thinking of the horribly outdated and poorly done study by LaVey, the study im talking about is the one done by swedish scientists not 4 years ago.
I didn't know 11 year old kids could think impure thoughts... You do realize thanks to people who are homophobe, children, CHILDREN, are committing suicide. Doesn't that make you sad?? I bet it makes Christ sad. His children are taking their young innocent lives away. Imagine the pain one must feel, I wish people would just STOP acting like they're God themselves!
I was not raised that way. My parents are against GBLT. So thanks for assuming. I don't know if you noticed "old school"... old school parents don't take gay stuff to the liking. And yeah so whats so high and mighty about the people from your church? They are capable of making as much sinful acts as the next.
@ALittleBrutalDrummer I'm sorry about the misunderstanding. Sometimes blameing the parents is not the right answer. I still believe it is a choice. What I meant before is that being brought up a certain way can have a big influence on that choice.
You don't have to rely on the church.... If the church all of a sudden says lets kill everyone who doesn't believe in our religion! Would you follow that too? (Which they have) Have your own mind for the sake of humanity! People of the church are in fact PEOPLE and make mistakes and can surely be corrupted. And my parents are very gender rolled and "old school".. so... upbringing really has nothing to do it. As for my environment, it was full of heterosexual fun. Your reasons are invalid.
@ALittleBrutalDrummer The thing is you don't believe that homosexuality is wrong and I'm guessing you were raised that way. The devil tempts us with impure thoughts and we need to realize that it is against His law to even think about acting on them.
It's true that corruption exists in some form in every church because we are humans who are sinful by nature. There are some churches that claim to follow christ but I believe they are hypocrites that are not on the path to heaven.
now, lets look at morality, you're choosing absolute morality, claiming that your religion has perfect morality, might i then ask why during the tale of Noahs ark god, in his ultimate morality, murders millions of people aswell billions of animals, fish, birds, trees, insects and other such? or why during the tale of moses does he murder all the first borns of egypt?
@ALittleBrutalDrummer The New Testament has eyewitness acounts of Jesus's life and teachings. They are confirmed with many sources. It is scientifically probable that these recounts of his teachings are accurate. I choose to believe that Jesus is God so I have faith that these acounts are true. There's also the matter of the Holy Spirit. I believe that the Spirit lives in me. It is what makes me know what is right and wrong. Similar, but not the same, as a consience.
What in the world... I never said I don't believe in Jesus Christ -___- what are you even talking about? How is what you're saying relevant to everything I just said. And hey. LOVE THY NEIGHBOR. Good job being a good person.
@ALittleBrutalDrummer What I'm saying is that Jesus Christ believed that the old testement was the word of God. Since my faith is based on Christ then I in turn also believe the old testament, which condemns homosexuality. I'm sorry if I offended you. I was just trying to explain how I can base my beliefs off of a single book.
Come on what does morality mean? U have said something that I think is right for only me. If all this is true, I might say killing people is morally right so it should be legalized. So plz change the word moral to evil desire. Remember that u r created from a mother and a father. Yes, this is the pure meaning of morality.
If you believe that the earth began with "clouds of debris acting under the influence of physics" then where did the clouds of debris come from. Something would of had to create them. This cycle needs a beginning. It needs God.
@NiSiRewinD How is it not clearly stated? The verses are right there, and there are several more. I care because I believe homosexuality is wrong. If sinfull acts become socially acceptable more people will be willing to try them. It's like if murder was legalized, more people would commit murder. My concern goes to people who are not strong christians or christians at all. Society has become quite perverted and it's hard not to lose yourself to the temptations this world holds.
@NiSiRewinD The farther you go down the wrong path the harder it is to get back on the right one. It's not that I hate homosexuals, but if I were to accept homosexual behavior, then in a sense I would accepting there choice not to follow God and his word. I don't think I could hate somone enough that I would want them to go to hell.
@Betzm36 There are lines in the bible which say it's not bad to be gay, Ecclesiastes 4,11/1 for example. And I can't remember any verse in the new testament which says you shouldn't be gay. i have kissed guys in my life and I just haven't been attracted. To be gay is nothing like you try it and then you get it. You are gay or your not. And one point I would like to say... Why all of you guys think there is a hell? the bible doesn't even say satan is the evil and neither it says there is a hell.
@Betzm36 And look at Matthew 22,40 and Romans 13,10. They say love is even stronger than commandments. Our God doesn't say no to anybody, and he doesn't judge on things like that. He's the kind god not the judgmental one.
The Bible cleary states that homosexuality is wrong.
Leviticus 18:22 You must not have sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman; it is a detestable act.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man has sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman, the two of them have committed an abomination.
@Betzm36 Why do you feel the need to follow a book? I was raised Catholic-I once attended Sunday mass plus Friday for years. But even I know that book isn't what binds me. I doubt sexual preference makes you a devil. Ever spoken to a gay person? Gay people are BORN that way. Theres nothing they can do besides suppress their true self, and how is that right or going to make that person happy? GBLT are the nicest! In fact, i'm bisexual&I love God. Tell me I'm going to hell. TheChurchIScorrupted.
@ALittleBrutalDrummer I guess it comes down to my belief in Jesus Christ as our savior. It's pretty clear that Jesus existed since there are so many sources that justify it. Several sources, including the bible, tell us about Jesus's approval of the Torah, Neviim, and Kethubim. (the Law, Prophets, and Writings) These make up the old testament.
@ALittleBrutalDrummer As for the New Testament, it's true that you have to rely on the church that Jesus started. It was this church that had to make the decision on what writings were truly inspired by God.
I have met several gay people and I get along quite well with most of them. I do not, however, believe that people are born homosexuals. I do believe that people can develope same sex attraction through their upbringing and environmental surrondings.
Well formed speech. So well that the only thing I would change is the order of Robert not waking up and dying. And that is the only thing I would consider changing, good job.
I wrote an essay with very similar things plus some other facts that i will be taking to the Speech Festival as an Original Oratory :) Nice work!!! Keep getting that word out. Im with you!!!
This has NOTHING to do with "gay marriage", but with the crude ignorance towards a person's clearly uttered will by someone whose task it isn't to decide about it.
I have to say I don't believe that homosexuality is correct, however they should have the same rights as the rest. Policies are crazy, and who said that justice should be determined by a group of people?
@sparklesthatfade I guess some babies are just born in sin to you. I wonder how you would feel if someone wrote in a book that heterosexuality is bad w/out any sort of support. They're the same as heterosexuals! They know how it feels to be discriminated against and shunned for something they can't control...(skin color) Man I hate people with close minds!!! This sexual thing is just like the racial issue. All you heterosexual haters are basically racist! What gives you the right to label us bad
There is no evidence there is a God, but there is no evidence against his existence. Marriage is a holy sacrament between a man and a women. Gays should not be able to wed, but they should be able to reap in the benefits that married couples experience, such as legal, and financial benefits.
mate just because your religion claims something doesn't make it yours, you stole Christianity, now its more a secular holiday than religious, you stole easter, now the stores own it, you stole marriage and now the government owns it, religious dogma should not matter when it comes to something institutionalised by the government.
Name me one country where its native Caucasian population's birth rate is 2.1 (sub-replacement fertility for a developed country) or above and is expected to increase where homosexual marriage is lawfully permitted. Fact: 100 years from now rainbow ideology will be a relic of the past. Very gradual self-induced Caucasian genocide. thumbs down to this post if you are a the average white liberal.
Its so impressive how someone could be proud to say i like to get fucked or vice versa in public... GAYS CARRY LOTS OF AIDS IN THEIR ASSES FOR THOSE WHO LIKES THEM, especially the type who made the question!!! WHY GAYS GOT ANGRY AND ANNOYDE WHEN PEOPLE GIVE THEIR OWN OPINIONS ABOUT THEM!! YOU GUYS ARE SICK.. GO RECOVER INSTEAD OR KILL YOURSELF!! THE WORLD HAS MUCH MORE ISSUES TO RESOLVE RATHAR THAN TALKING ABOUT YOUR DIRTY BEHAVIOURS YOU SICK PEOPLE!!
In jews opinion, humans are forbidden from disagreeing with jews . In jews opinion, jews are forbidden from agreeing to disagree with non-jews. In jews opinion, non-jews are human-cattle. In jews opinion, jews being proven lyers regarding human soap and lampshades, mass-electrocusions, shrunken heads, baby kindling and the 6 million figure, doesn't effect peoples faith in holocostianity one bit !
I am sorry to inform you that nowhere in the bible did Christ ever permit homosexuality. Im curious, what bible are you espousing that we read , sir?You should read Romans chapter 1:18 and following!
When it comes to freedom rights it is a matter of all citizens, not just the homosexuals. Because even if you don't care when they take away YOUR freedom there would be no one to help you. So an issue of freedom is a issue of all the nation. I am straight and portuguese and i approve gay marriage in America, stop the "nanny state"!
Jesus preached love and tolerance so as long as no harm was done to anybody and nobody's free will was taken away from them. and even when the people did both to him at the same time, he still wished for mercy and on them and held no grudge.
@422904. Actually, if I remember correctly, adam was "created" with his first wife Lilith at the same time equally from the earth. Lilith was cast away when she would not succumb to Adams misogynistic demands, at which point Eve was created from Adams rib.
A quote from Galileo: "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."
Does it really make sense at all that if you are gay you cannot carry out Jesus' words? spread the gospel of love and peace (what the real meaning of being a Christian is)? Why does it matter if you are attracted to someone of the same sex?
Yes! a homosexual person can be used by God because God can use anyone. When I look at the text found in the book of Leviticus 18:22 and also 1 Corinthians 6:9 What I see here is that clearly God is not pleased with the act of being a homosexual. Just like God is not pleased if you are a liar a thief and adulterer or an idolater. I say from reading the text in both books of the bible in its entirety living a homosexual lifestyle is contrary to the will of God.
@gwanedm oh yeah, and just like how God is not pleased if you eat any kind of shellfish such as shrimp, crab, lobster, clams, and mussels. Just read Leviticus 11:9-12, and Deuteronomy 14:9-10. That too is considered an abomination.
@circlesky73 I think he is trying to justify his homosexual lifestyle as being acceptable to God. He is trying to equate homosexual peoples with the most oppressed peoples in our society and say that if Jesus came today in this society that he would clearly be for the homosexual. I agree with that point but I would add that if a homosexual came in contact with Jesus he would definitely not be a homosexual anymore.
Sometime rhetoric doesn't cut it with bigotry ... sometimes leading with amazing and letting other people wallow in their own hatred is enough. To everyone that hates anyone for whatever reason ... you're great!! To all the homophobes out there: I want to suck your dick! BAM! Deal with it!
MrSeanIkin 3 days ago
It's a shame that the "gays" aren't being given the help they need. People with a severe handi-cap or schitzophrenia aren't neglected in this way. Give them the medicine to correct there illness, thats what i say! Who's with me. Lets sing a song -
Give the gays the medicine they need,
No sharp objects theirs bums might bleed,
Pray for them at church everyday....
Even though they'll burn in hell anyway!
josephpidgeon 5 days ago
@josephpidgeon Fuck off wanker!
MrSeanIkin 3 days ago
My goodness. Perhaps instead of having your judgement clouded by emotionalist rhetoric, use reason. False compassion and false charity is not Christian. The romanticizing of a pathology is destructive. A pathology because it's rooted in a consumptive understanding of relationship and another and a fear of sexual intimacy with the opposite sex because of the unknown. The purported biological are fallacious: correlation is not causation, and theories weak. Marriage is religious, not gov't instit.
crewalpha 5 days ago
@crewalpha "Marriage is religious, not gov't instit." Ok, fine. If it's only the word you care about, then call it something else!!! There are lots and lots of federally recognized benefits to being married. Civil unions are state based, and therefore not federally recognized for many of the benefits. That is flat out discrimination!!! Don't call it marriage, but fight for equal rights! Jesus would be embarrassed with the writing of the Bible and it's interpretation, I assure you.
yaketyjak 4 days ago
@MrGwaneDM You just weakened your own argument. Those translations are precisely why nobody can be one hundred percent certain.
CaptainShadowCross 6 days ago
@CaptainShadowCross Exactly my point! no one is self righteous! All have sinned and fallen short of his glory! I speak against every sin including my own! I am a believer and What I am doing is presenting the scripture to people and proclaiming Biblical truths! It's up to you to accept it or not!
MrGwaneDM 6 days ago
jacob wat u propagate in yr spech is true 2 lrge extent v claim to be the best creation of the Almighty but its dichotomous on our part to subjugate issue like the ones you raise simply bcoz they appear bizarre to some supposedly enlightened members of our race...i.e. our policy makers.individuals have little cntrol ovr sexual orientation.wil take some time for d society to hav a mor cohesive environment for the homosexuals n maybe live in coherence with dem.Rome was not built in a day.isn't it?
705mukesh 1 week ago
bravo :)
imekapoios 1 week ago
I like this guy. His speech is amazing
krazy346 1 week ago
@MrGwaneDM Yes, only a man and a woman can procreate. But that isn't the point of marraige. You completely ignored my comment saying that marraige is about love - and the part about sterile couples, meaning a male and a female who can NEVER reproduce.
CaptainShadowCross 1 week ago
Homosexual activists understand the power of words.
Please visit my channel to watch a one-minute video clip in which popular atheist author Richard Dawkins admits that homosexual activists "hijacked the word 'gay'".
The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate because it, unlike the word "gay", actually describes the behavior/attraction/relationship being discussed.
The word "gay" helps homosexual activists push their agenda.
lightandbeautiful 2 weeks ago
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yaketyjak 6 days ago
@lightandbeautiful @lightandbeautiful hahahaha! You think gay helps people advance the homosexual agenda...Go tell a kid to have a gay time with his friends and see what he associates with it- a "disgusting" taboo, or being happy and joyful. Who cares where it came from or who started it? You act as if Don't Ask Don't Tell would still be in place were it not for those meddlin' fags that started saying gay.
yaketyjak 6 days ago
@lightandbeautiful Also, in your page you insist homosexuality is a choice...the only way you could know that for sure is if you've had the opportunity to make that choice.....................................did you have something you wanted to tell us all?
yaketyjak 6 days ago
@yaketyjak
I never said "homosexuality is a choice".
I merely stated that the "born that way" theory is scientifically unproven, which it is.
lightandbeautiful 6 days ago
@lightandbeautiful Scientifically unproven? Really, include a link to the evidence or explain please. Just because it isn't conducive to being procreative doesn't mean you can't be born with it. Thus, dwarfism, Down Syndrome etc. etc. etc. all exist today. And if you don't believe it's a choice, I don't know how you think it's so wrong. You don't have to want to kiss guys to be fore equal rights. Fine, I get it. Marriage is a religious term. Call it something else, but let their be equal rights!
yaketyjak 4 days ago
@MrGwaneDM Then, by your logic, you must not agree with sterile couples, who can NEVER have children through procreation. The purpose of marriage is not procreation but love, a feeling that both heterosexual and homosexual couples feel.
CaptainShadowCross 2 weeks ago
@CaptainShadowCross If you exegete the scriptures found in Genesis chapters 1 and 2 corectly you will find that the teaching there tells us that God created woman to become a suitable helpmate to man. You will also see that God tells them to replenish the earth which is repeated to Noah later in Genisis chapter 8. The proof of this is found in human biology. the design of our bodies supports heterosexuality and contradicts homosexuality.
MrGwaneDM 1 week ago
@MrGwaneDM Human biology supports healthy DNA and contradicts Down Syndrome too. Just because homosexuality is not conducive to procreation doesn't mean it's a choice. In Leviticus, a passage says homosexuals shall be put to death. There's a passage that says you should be put to death if you "curse" your parents (I take it to mean swear?). Some passages condone slavery. The Bible isn't always right. It's only a matter of time before being gay is viewed as nothing more than what it is: harmless.
yaketyjak 1 week ago
@yaketyjak IF you properly interpret the text in Leviticus you will find that when it talks about homosexuals shall be put to death it is talking spiritual death. What sin does is separate humans from God. Everytime you sin you separate yourself from God. I don't know about you but that is enough harm done.
MrGwaneDM 1 week ago
@MrGwaneDM I would love to know how you came up with that interpretation. Why do you ignore the fact that the Bible condones slavery? It even describes how big of a "rod" you can beat your slave with!!! I could point out passages, or you could google it and find loads of information. Just admit that the Bible is PLAGUED with PLENTY of inconsistencies and false statements. Why is it that you cling to the homosexual references? Oh yeah, you're homophobic.
yaketyjak 6 days ago
@yaketyjak What you fail to understand is that slavery in biblical times was different from the slavery that was practiced in America.Slavery was more a matter of social status. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their families.Some people actually chose to be slaves so as to have all their needs provided by someone else.
MrGwaneDM 6 days ago
@MrGwaneDM If it was a matter of social status and simply "indentured servitude," then why does it say how hard you're allowed to beat your slave? The Bible is disgusting and I can guarantee if Jesus proofread it he would not be pleased. When it's in your favor, everything is fact. When it isn't, then they're just "stories meant to be symbolic of true lessons" and all that happy horse shlt.
yaketyjak 4 days ago
@MrGwaneDM I just think that you are uncomfortable with seeing gays express their love. Which is in a way, understandable, because you aren't gay. That doesn't make it wrong. I'm gay, and when I see guys kissing it still surprises me a little bit...BECAUSE SOCIETY MAKES IT THAT WAY!!! People seriously used to think blacks were disgusting and that drinking from the same fountain was wrong. It's the same thing here. You've been conditioned to be grossed out because it has been made a huge taboo.
yaketyjak 6 days ago
@yaketyjak Let me assure you that as a Christian bible believing African American nothing surprises me living in this sinful, ungodly world. Just becuase the World or this society is becoming more accepting of the gay lifestyle doesn't negate the fact that the bible clearly speaks out against it. I am sorry but if you are a gay christian then you need to repent so you can be closer to God!
MrGwaneDM 5 days ago
@MrGwaneDM Also, I want to point out that the line I was referring to in Leviticus included the words "their blood shall be upon them." I would LOVE to know how that translates to "spiritual death." Don't call it marriage if that's your issue. But gays should absolutely have equal rights. This civil union BS is NOT equal. LOTS of federally recognized marriage benefits are not given to gays. Discrimination. Period. Fine, see it as a choice or as sinful. But be in favor of equal rights!
yaketyjak 4 days ago
I think if gays want to be looked at as married, the Government should give the union another title and allow laws to provide certain family rights to gays. This must be limited though for what is healthy for society. Psychologists state that children must have the mother father figure for best development. I feel children must be protected from a union like this. Also, I feel gays will treat straight people like their baby factories. You will be asking us to make babies for you. Make your own!
ttsoraklidis 2 weeks ago
@ttsoraklidis "Make your own"? No reason to be cynical. Giving gay parents a fair chance to adopt is all we want. No one is making any heterosexual people produce babies in their stead. Surrogacy is in fact a rare way that male-male couples have kids. And about your claim on what psychologists say: cite your sources. What you're claiming is not even close to what the mainstream position on this is.
InsertTruthHere 2 weeks ago
Jason didn't make this just about civil unity between man & man. He is talking about God and the church to accept it too. The church cannot accept spiritual and psychological problems as something to change its self over. The church is here to help with conditions like these. It's like asking a hospital to change what it knows about aids so aids isn't looked at as bad anymore. If Jesus Christ was walking with us, he would heal the illness. but Knowing gays, you would order GOD to accept it
ttsoraklidis 2 weeks ago
@ttsoraklidis HAHAHA, I find it more than pathetic when people presume to know what Jesus would do. Don't you see how arrogant that is??? Your analogy doesn't make the remotest bit of sense. AIDS is a deadly disease. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation. How are those two logically connected? If anything you're making a case for your mental incapacity.
InsertTruthHere 2 weeks ago
@ttsoraklidis Oh, the ignorance. When I was younger, I turned to religion to help me. I never wanted to be gay. I tried my best to suppress it. Then I grew up and realized that the Bible was full of lies, inconsistencies, and false statements. It wasn't very fun trying to hide and wish I would change. Your God will do as much to help homosexuals as he did to stop the Holocaust. If it's an illness, as you say, who chooses to be sick? And why would you be punished for being ill?
yaketyjak 6 days ago
Marriage has always been a religious sacrament. Marriage is a Holy Sacrament and religious laws have the say on marriage. Technically speaking, a bicycle can have 3 wheels, but then it wouldn't be a bicycle. Technically, a man & a man can get married, but then it wouldn't be a marriage. Homosexuals to get married would have to call it something else. coz u want to get the laws changed, I shouldn't have to call my wife, "domestic partner". The definition of marriage must always stay the same.
ttsoraklidis 2 weeks ago
@ttsoraklidis Really? Are you from America? Because there, you don't get any benefits for being married unless it's done civilly. Marriage is as secular of a thing as celebrating your brithday. Get your facts straight.
InsertTruthHere 2 weeks ago
@ttsoraklidis Fine. I'd settle for a marriage equivalent with a different name, if all you care about is the original word. The point is, if that's the case, then why does government give marriage benefits to those engaging in a specific "Holy Sacrament," but not others? The government is not supposed to make laws favoring any one religion.
yaketyjak 6 days ago
Unbiased point of view here.. I am an Orthodox Christian and it is very clear what Apostle Paul says about homosexuality. But leaving this aside, Lets look at what being gay is. If you wake up in the morning with a penis, and your mind is telling you that it doesn't want to use it or have it for its purpose, then it is a deformity that must be looked at by doctors and your spiritual father. Animals that have this become extinct. This is not religion telling you. Nature and science is.
ttsoraklidis 2 weeks ago
@ttsoraklidis Naturally and biologically speaking, man and woman were created to fit together perfectly. A woman is the only suitable helpmate for Man. After the marriage covenant, the two become one flesh. Gays and lesbians do not have an arguement there and cannot dispute that fact!
MrGwaneDM 2 weeks ago
@MrGwaneDM Actually: BIOLOGICALLY speaking, man and woman were not created at all. You derive your statement from anything but a biological or natural point of view but merely from your dogmatic understanding of a flawed holy book that you were indoctrinated to believe cover to cover. So let me translate your statement to what you actually meant to say: "My Bible says gay is bad. At least I was told that it did. Never questioned it really. So I'll blindly go along with that. Yay for bigotry!"
InsertTruthHere 2 weeks ago
@InsertTruthHere I derived my statement from the fact that a man has sperm and a woman has eggs. My statement comes from the fact that a Man's body comes together with a female body perfectly in order to procreate. You don't need much faith to see that truth. How is that a flawed understanding? How can you deny that fact about human nature?
MrGwaneDM 2 weeks ago
@MrGwaneDM Then you must also disagree with contraception and celibacy which also cannot produce children. Adultery is a far more common 'sin' but not much is said about that anymore. Yet, Jesus nor the Ten Commandments do not say one word about homosexuals - but both speak on adultery.
ihsrc 2 weeks ago
@ihsrc If you properly interpret the text found in Matthew Chapter 5, the words of Jesus at the sermon on the mount, you will find that the word used for Adultery encompasses all sexual sin to include homosexuality. Go back and study the original text. The reason why the text is in red is not only because it's the words of Jesus, its because he did not speak in Greek so it was translated several times before it was translated into english
MrGwaneDM 1 week ago
@MrGwaneDM So, according to you, Matthew 5 could also read "Do not commit homosexuality.’But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed homosexuality with her in his heart". It doesn't, but even if it did mean all sexual sin - why do you speak so feverishly against only homosexuals - when adultery is far more common? There may be 7 verses about homosexuals - but there are 277 verses on Pride.
ihsrc 6 days ago
@InsertTruthHere How can you say that I am a bigot or imply that I have a lack of understanding when you dont know me from Adam? Yes I believe that homosexuality is a sin just like cheating on your wife or having sex before marriage but I do not believe that homosexuals should be mis treated in any way. We should love our homosexual brothers and sisters and not judge them but not condone the act.
MrGwaneDM 2 weeks ago
@ttsoraklidis This is what you call an unbiased point of view? Lolz! Go be looked at by a doctor!
InsertTruthHere 2 weeks ago
@corral973 Keep your scare tactic to yourself. If the whole world were sterile, the human race would definitely die out, and more people are sterile than homosexual, so....
CaptainShadowCross 3 weeks ago
TWO MAN CANNOT HAVE A CHILD,THE HUMAN RACE WOULD HAVE DIE OUT.
corral973 3 weeks ago
@corral973 what's your point? gays didn't just spring out of nowhere last year. They've been here for long, long years just like straight people and guess what, human race is still here. Legalizing gay rights isn't going to suddenly turn whole straight people gay and no one gets to have children (which by the way is a wrong assumption too since two men can have a child too..every heard of adoption?) You gotta accept that some are gay and get over it, just like how some are straight like me.
acidnuneo 2 weeks ago
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Homosexual activists understand the power of words.
Please visit my channel to watch a one-minute video clip in which famous atheist Richard Dawkins admits that homosexual activists "hijacked the word 'gay'".
The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate because it, unlike the word "gay", actually describes the behavior/attraction/relationship being discussed.
The word "gay" helps homosexual activists push their agenda.
lightandbeautiful 3 weeks ago
tear moment
DustyGaGa 4 weeks ago
@TheDobby321 It is, yes. I'm not entirely sure what that has to do with my earlier post....
CaptainShadowCross 1 month ago
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JFM284 1 month ago
Jacob is right. Gay and Straight people don't choose their sexual orientation. We are who we are. If you love someone, it is be honored, blessed and celebrated. Loving relationships are what we need more than ever. Children deserve to be loved by loving people. Maybe the belief that homosexuality is a sin, is really not a God Belief, but a man-made law to keep the lineage alive because in the olden days people didn't live long. It's time to make a new amendment. Keep the dialogue going!
imrich868 1 month ago 10
This speech was amazing. :)
XsasunaruloveyaoiX 1 month ago 4
@sparklesthatfade Your argument swings both ways. There's also no proof besides people's words - probably tainted by society - that homosexuals choose to be that way. Science supports that they were born that way, and common sense practically screams it. People don't choose a life of torment, hatred, fear, discrimination, and suicide.
CaptainShadowCross 1 month ago
@CaptainShadowCross But isn't the point of all this that there would be no torment in the first place? Isn't that what should be fixed?
TheDobby321 1 month ago
@ALittleBrutalDrummer no one said i labeled you bad. although you are a sinner like the rest of us. i dont believe people are born gay and their is no prove for it besides peoples words (which have probably been tainted by society) so it's not a racist issue. and i have a very open mind. im a Christ-follower and the bible has told me its a sin so i say its bad.
sparklesthatfade 1 month ago
That was a very good speech Nick Jonas.
dfbhcf 1 month ago
Well said, Jacob. Thank you.
circlesky73 1 month ago
I believe that the bible is the true word of God and everything in it is useful for teaching and helping people and for correcting them and showing them how to live. This is an outstanding speech given by this young man Nick Jonas. He has brought up some points that I agree with wholeheartedly as it relates to the treatment that most homosexuals receive in our society. I dont agree with how he tries to justify his lifesyle as if its ok by God.
MrGwaneDM 1 month ago
You freak!!!!! even a male dog will look for a female dog. Pervert!!!. Don't call Jesus' name because you are not a Christian.
ericelango 1 month ago
@ericelango I doubt that calling him a "freak" or a "pervert" is a very Christian thing to do. You would deny him Christ's salvation? There is only One who has that right. So don't call upon Jesus's name either, until you can follow His precepts with a heart, loving all of God's children.
jerryspencer2011 1 month ago
@ericelango Don't call yourself Christian or don't speak out Jesus' name, you are not fit to say out his name because you are Satan... U will be punish in HELL for eternity.
Jesus love everyone, normal,LGBT... So stop hating or else you will suffer !
MrAlvinSinfulSong 1 month ago
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28gervy 1 month ago
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination.[2](Leviticus 18:22 KJV)
I'm sure this is ambiguous so tell me how please
MrBettis363636 1 month ago
@MrBettis363636 Who cares even if it is? It's from the Bible, which isn't a credible source at all, and also it's from the Old Testament, which (obviously and fortunately) doesn't apply.
TheGhov 1 month ago
@MrBettis363636 First, we are not under the Old Testament Law, which was only intended for the Jews anyway, not the gentile world. Second, it says they could not lay with a man "as with womenkind". A man could not bitchslap a sissyboy as he might a woman who was subservient to a man in that culture. Doing that to a man degraded the way they looked at men. This 'man as with woman' would have been a male prostitute. That is what this verse meant, not monogamous homosexuals.
ihsrc 6 days ago
@JC4crs There is a major difference between pedophilia and homosexuality...an most pedophiles are heterosexual. Also, people can't really be turned homosexual. So you are incorrect.
CaptainShadowCross 1 month ago
@CaptainShadowCross THANK YOU!!! Finally someone else who's done some freaking resseach on pedophilia. Pedo's aren't always homosexual. Sorry, i've done a lot of resseach, because of what happened to me.
stormking1971 1 month ago
@michaeljacksonisnotd You ignored my points, so I can assume that you concede them. :)
CaptainShadowCross 1 month ago
evil bible dot com = for people using the Bible against Gays and Lesbians.Education = for people who are using anything else against Gays and Lesbians.
TheNolo73 1 month ago
@michaeljacksonisnotd
Do you know that's utter nonsense? It was removed by several organisations because they realised it isn't a disease. Homosexuality is nothing like necrophilia (sex with corpses). Both homosexuality and heterosexuality occurs between two consenting adult. Necrophilia - one person is dead, so it cannot be consensual.
CaptainShadowCross 1 month ago
@michaeljacksonisnotd Do you know that's complete nonsense? It was removed by several organizations because people finally began to realise that it wasn't and isn't a disease. And it's nothing like necrophilia (sex with corpses). Homosexual and heterosexual relationships are between two consenting adults. Necrophilia - one person is dead, so it cannot be consensual.
CaptainShadowCross 1 month ago
do u know that doctors deleted gay disease from the list of diseases coz gay people wee pressuring them? It's actually a disease and even my gay friends say that it's very high % of freaks and psychos in a gay community. It's ok when man have a fetish for example,but he wants it with woman, but wanting person who has same sex, that is like when people having sex with corpses...They fucking already have more rights than straight people and u want to give them more? u're fucking freaks...
michaeljacksonisnotd 1 month ago
@michaeljacksonisnotd first being gay is not a disease, and for the rights they mean the same rights as everyone else has, for ex. you can get fired just for being gay and there is nothing you can do about it. and for people who think being gay is unnatural than how come most animals are bisexual?
rathb18 1 month ago
@rathb18 not desease coz octors deleted it under gay pressure? it used to be and it's a fact that gay community was pressuring doctors...It's like Chikatilo was a freak but psychiatrists under victim's relatives made a conclusion that he is ok...
Sorry i never heard of anyone was fired of coz he is gay...It's probably hog gay people explain it. It's like police arresting black guyu who came with gun in a bank and he screams that they arrest him coz he is black:((Thank u for ur answer:)
michaeljacksonisnotd 1 month ago
@michaeljacksonisnotd u would only think homosexuality is a disease because to you its unnatural, but how would u know its unnatural? for us to explain to you, its like explaining what true love is to someone who never really experience it untill him/her experience it. we love who we love, we are sexually attracted to who we are, no one can turn us GAY just like how NO ONE can turn you gay.
jennymoriwaki 1 month ago
@michaeljacksonisnotd ."They fucking already have more rights than straight people and u want to give them more? u're fucking freaks..." sorry we homosexuals do not have more rights than hetero, infact in some countries we are punished to death sentence, we are not asking for a privileged rights, we are only asking for equality. to be treated as a person, to be able to have a life with the partner we love, and a family of our own.
jennymoriwaki 1 month ago
@rathb18 YES IT IS!!! it's a sickening MENTAL disease!! of Perverts and predators who target small children and turn them into NEW HOMOs. just like the guy speaking here. He doesn't even know that someone abused him since he was a small child so he thinks he was "born that way" Sickening PERVERTS!
JC4crs 1 month ago
I want to like this over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
SoccerGirl29995 1 month ago
@Betzm36 The Bible has been interpreted to condemn homosexuality - at a maximum - of six times. It attacks heterosexual unions over 300 times.
If evidence were to prove that homosexuals would born as they are, would your stance be the same? Would He really damn someone for being born?
CaptainShadowCross 1 month ago
@Betzm36 The word homosexual did not even exist in the time of the Bible. Any Bible you read that mentions it was altered later (such as the King James Bible) and is therefore invalid on that score.
CaptainShadowCross 1 month ago
@CaptainShadowCross It's true that homosexuality was not a term that was used in those days. But I think it still is referring to homosexual behavior. If you look at th verse from Romans, you see that the word homosexual isn't used at all but is still describeing homosexual behavior.
Betzm36 1 month ago
@CaptainShadowCross To me it seems clear and I do not think it was misinterpreted by translators. The subject comes up several times and it always comes up condemning homosexuality. I think the chance that they are all mistranslations is slim. The bible talks about the joining of a man and a women and how anything else is an impure act. I doubt the meaning has been lost to that extent through the several translations the Bible has been through. I believe that God has had control over it.
Betzm36 1 month ago
@Betzm36 Beginning in Leviticus 25:44 the Bible outlines who can be bought as a slave.. So then is slavery ok? And if the translating of the Bible has in fact been protected by God, then why in the Hebrew text is the plural word for God; Elohim used? This would change the whole meaning of the BIble. Gen 1:1 would say, "...the Gods created.."
jbach220 1 month ago
@jbach220 These topics can get a bit complicated. I'm going to start ansering these questions and comments with personal messages, especially since we are beginning to stray from the topic of homosexuality. If you want to message me then just send me a personal message. I don't want to completely take over the comments for this video. By the way, nice job jacobk with your speech. I may not agree with many things you said, but I commemorate your hard work on this well presented speech.
Betzm36 1 month ago
@Betzm36 Are you aware that the Bible never specifically mentions homosexuality, and that leading anti-gay Christians like Dr. Robert Gagnon believed those sections of Leviticus to refer to homosexual cult prostitution, not consensual love?
CaptainShadowCross 1 month ago
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@CaptainShadowCross I don't believe taht to be the case with the Leviticus passages. Ther are several more passages from other books that deal with this too.
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor HOMOSEXUAL offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
1st Corinthians 6:9-10
Betzm36 1 month ago
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Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Romans 1:26
I really think that they are talking about homosexual behavior,
Betzm36 1 month ago
@CaptainShadowCross I've heard of many ways people try to wiggle around the meaning of some othese passages, but I think they are just trying to justify what they want to believe. They always try to twist the words and not look at what I believe to be the real meaning of the text.
Betzm36 1 month ago
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
14 year old boy: I have a dream that one day we will not be judged by who we love but by the content of our character.
ALittleBrutalDrummer 1 month ago
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@ALittleBrutalDrummer I know this sounds good and all. I'm just trying to help. I believe that in order to get to heaven you must have faith in Jesus Christ. If you do not then you are condemned to hell. How much would you have to hate someone to let them go to hell.
Betzm36 1 month ago
@ALittleBrutalDrummer It was nice talking with you, and I don't mean that in a sarcastic way. I just ask that you think about some of these things. Are you a drummer? I am too, that is if you say yes to the previous question. See Ya
Betzm36 1 month ago
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I didn't say purely either. Stop putting words in my mouth you good ol' believer.
ALittleBrutalDrummer 1 month ago
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@ALittleBrutalDrummer I'm sorry to have upset you
Betzm36 1 month ago
There are some things in spanish that cannot be directly translated into english, how do you know through countless translations, people have not misinterpreted things?
ALittleBrutalDrummer 1 month ago
@ALittleBrutalDrummer I believe that God has had his hand in it. The holy spirit tells me what I'm hearing is true. I know that can sound sort of wierd but I believe it to be true. Is there a way we can continue this disscusion without posting all of these comments on this guy's video?
Betzm36 1 month ago
Ive been baptized, done my communion, and confirmation. Therefore, I too believe the holy spirit is within me. But not because of those sacraments, but because I know in my heart I am a good person and I do not judge. I I don't know who anyone is to tell a person they're not good people who can tell what is right from wrong because they lack sacraments. And eye witness is very weak, do your research. Not to mention people perceive things very differently from person to person, also translations!
ALittleBrutalDrummer 1 month ago
and I guess you missed the part where it says there are biological differences between gay and straight men. Also, no one is completely straight. Sexuality is on a balance and no person is on either end. Some people just happen to fall in the middle or more toward one side than the other.
ALittleBrutalDrummer 1 month ago
@ALittleBrutalDrummer It's been determined that sexual orientation is not purely based on genetics.
Betzm36 1 month ago
@Betzm36
"It's been determined that sexual orientation is not purely based on genetics."
source?
if its not genetic then it requires that homosexuality be somehow learnt, the problem with this being is that in 2008 swedish researchers found that the structure of a gay males brain was more alike a straight females than a straight males and vice versa for lesbians, so unless brain formation is learnt then homosexuality is genetic, i'd be happy to PM you a link to an article on the study.
ourorboros2 1 month ago
@ourorboros2 Even in this study they determined that the genetic make up was not the sole cause for homosexual attraction. When talking about the differences in sizes in the hypothalamus, the statistics were not really as surprising as they lead you to believe. The media obviously likes the idea that Homosexuality is genetic and they always jump on these studies and over exagerate everything. I've been looking around that site I gave you and it has answers on a lot of these topics
Betzm36 1 month ago
@Betzm36
firstly the study you're thinking of the horribly outdated and poorly done study by LaVey, the study im talking about is the one done by swedish scientists not 4 years ago.
ourorboros2 1 month ago
I didn't know 11 year old kids could think impure thoughts... You do realize thanks to people who are homophobe, children, CHILDREN, are committing suicide. Doesn't that make you sad?? I bet it makes Christ sad. His children are taking their young innocent lives away. Imagine the pain one must feel, I wish people would just STOP acting like they're God themselves!
ALittleBrutalDrummer 1 month ago
I was not raised that way. My parents are against GBLT. So thanks for assuming. I don't know if you noticed "old school"... old school parents don't take gay stuff to the liking. And yeah so whats so high and mighty about the people from your church? They are capable of making as much sinful acts as the next.
ALittleBrutalDrummer 1 month ago
@ALittleBrutalDrummer I'm sorry about the misunderstanding. Sometimes blameing the parents is not the right answer. I still believe it is a choice. What I meant before is that being brought up a certain way can have a big influence on that choice.
Betzm36 1 month ago
Faith and religion are two different things. And sir, I hope that book wasn't tampered with for your sake.
ALittleBrutalDrummer 1 month ago
You don't have to rely on the church.... If the church all of a sudden says lets kill everyone who doesn't believe in our religion! Would you follow that too? (Which they have) Have your own mind for the sake of humanity! People of the church are in fact PEOPLE and make mistakes and can surely be corrupted. And my parents are very gender rolled and "old school".. so... upbringing really has nothing to do it. As for my environment, it was full of heterosexual fun. Your reasons are invalid.
ALittleBrutalDrummer 1 month ago
@ALittleBrutalDrummer The thing is you don't believe that homosexuality is wrong and I'm guessing you were raised that way. The devil tempts us with impure thoughts and we need to realize that it is against His law to even think about acting on them.
It's true that corruption exists in some form in every church because we are humans who are sinful by nature. There are some churches that claim to follow christ but I believe they are hypocrites that are not on the path to heaven.
Betzm36 1 month ago
@Betzm36
now, lets look at morality, you're choosing absolute morality, claiming that your religion has perfect morality, might i then ask why during the tale of Noahs ark god, in his ultimate morality, murders millions of people aswell billions of animals, fish, birds, trees, insects and other such? or why during the tale of moses does he murder all the first borns of egypt?
ourorboros2 1 month ago
@ALittleBrutalDrummer The New Testament has eyewitness acounts of Jesus's life and teachings. They are confirmed with many sources. It is scientifically probable that these recounts of his teachings are accurate. I choose to believe that Jesus is God so I have faith that these acounts are true. There's also the matter of the Holy Spirit. I believe that the Spirit lives in me. It is what makes me know what is right and wrong. Similar, but not the same, as a consience.
Betzm36 1 month ago
What in the world... I never said I don't believe in Jesus Christ -___- what are you even talking about? How is what you're saying relevant to everything I just said. And hey. LOVE THY NEIGHBOR. Good job being a good person.
ALittleBrutalDrummer 1 month ago
@ALittleBrutalDrummer What I'm saying is that Jesus Christ believed that the old testement was the word of God. Since my faith is based on Christ then I in turn also believe the old testament, which condemns homosexuality. I'm sorry if I offended you. I was just trying to explain how I can base my beliefs off of a single book.
Betzm36 1 month ago
Come on what does morality mean? U have said something that I think is right for only me. If all this is true, I might say killing people is morally right so it should be legalized. So plz change the word moral to evil desire. Remember that u r created from a mother and a father. Yes, this is the pure meaning of morality.
smaklilu90 1 month ago
If you believe that the earth began with "clouds of debris acting under the influence of physics" then where did the clouds of debris come from. Something would of had to create them. This cycle needs a beginning. It needs God.
Betzm36 1 month ago
@Betzm36 First point: No it doesn't. Second point: Who the hack cares? That has nothing to do with day marriage...
NiSiRewinD 1 month ago
@NiSiRewinD How is it not clearly stated? The verses are right there, and there are several more. I care because I believe homosexuality is wrong. If sinfull acts become socially acceptable more people will be willing to try them. It's like if murder was legalized, more people would commit murder. My concern goes to people who are not strong christians or christians at all. Society has become quite perverted and it's hard not to lose yourself to the temptations this world holds.
Betzm36 1 month ago
@NiSiRewinD The farther you go down the wrong path the harder it is to get back on the right one. It's not that I hate homosexuals, but if I were to accept homosexual behavior, then in a sense I would accepting there choice not to follow God and his word. I don't think I could hate somone enough that I would want them to go to hell.
Betzm36 1 month ago
@Betzm36 There are lines in the bible which say it's not bad to be gay, Ecclesiastes 4,11/1 for example. And I can't remember any verse in the new testament which says you shouldn't be gay. i have kissed guys in my life and I just haven't been attracted. To be gay is nothing like you try it and then you get it. You are gay or your not. And one point I would like to say... Why all of you guys think there is a hell? the bible doesn't even say satan is the evil and neither it says there is a hell.
NiSiRewinD 1 month ago
@Betzm36 And look at Matthew 22,40 and Romans 13,10. They say love is even stronger than commandments. Our God doesn't say no to anybody, and he doesn't judge on things like that. He's the kind god not the judgmental one.
NiSiRewinD 1 month ago
The Bible cleary states that homosexuality is wrong.
Leviticus 18:22 You must not have sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman; it is a detestable act.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man has sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman, the two of them have committed an abomination.
Betzm36 1 month ago
@Betzm36 Why do you feel the need to follow a book? I was raised Catholic-I once attended Sunday mass plus Friday for years. But even I know that book isn't what binds me. I doubt sexual preference makes you a devil. Ever spoken to a gay person? Gay people are BORN that way. Theres nothing they can do besides suppress their true self, and how is that right or going to make that person happy? GBLT are the nicest! In fact, i'm bisexual&I love God. Tell me I'm going to hell. TheChurchIScorrupted.
ALittleBrutalDrummer 1 month ago
@ALittleBrutalDrummer I guess it comes down to my belief in Jesus Christ as our savior. It's pretty clear that Jesus existed since there are so many sources that justify it. Several sources, including the bible, tell us about Jesus's approval of the Torah, Neviim, and Kethubim. (the Law, Prophets, and Writings) These make up the old testament.
Betzm36 1 month ago
@ALittleBrutalDrummer As for the New Testament, it's true that you have to rely on the church that Jesus started. It was this church that had to make the decision on what writings were truly inspired by God.
I have met several gay people and I get along quite well with most of them. I do not, however, believe that people are born homosexuals. I do believe that people can develope same sex attraction through their upbringing and environmental surrondings.
Betzm36 1 month ago
U have said' what is morally right is ,...' so is gay marriage morally right?
smaklilu90 2 months ago
@smaklilu90 either way "my" morals should not dictate how you live
leche10 1 month ago
Well formed speech. So well that the only thing I would change is the order of Robert not waking up and dying. And that is the only thing I would consider changing, good job.
adamcs 2 months ago
Very awesome. Very sad story tho. Keep fighting, im for equality.
XXBleedingrose 2 months ago
how did i get here
WINGERnumba7 2 months ago
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**i dont hate the sinner.. i hate the sin**
mobzzcrak 2 months ago
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i still don't understand how gay marriage is a "threat". whatever.
babybashmail 2 months ago
I wrote an essay with very similar things plus some other facts that i will be taking to the Speech Festival as an Original Oratory :) Nice work!!! Keep getting that word out. Im with you!!!
TheNikkiKane 2 months ago
This has NOTHING to do with "gay marriage", but with the crude ignorance towards a person's clearly uttered will by someone whose task it isn't to decide about it.
sooperfukker 2 months ago
I have to say I don't believe that homosexuality is correct, however they should have the same rights as the rest. Policies are crazy, and who said that justice should be determined by a group of people?
sparklesthatfade 2 months ago
@sparklesthatfade I guess some babies are just born in sin to you. I wonder how you would feel if someone wrote in a book that heterosexuality is bad w/out any sort of support. They're the same as heterosexuals! They know how it feels to be discriminated against and shunned for something they can't control...(skin color) Man I hate people with close minds!!! This sexual thing is just like the racial issue. All you heterosexual haters are basically racist! What gives you the right to label us bad
ALittleBrutalDrummer 1 month ago
he will die anyway and Gay Marriage is so homoswxuals
m199213 2 months ago
There is no evidence there is a God, but there is no evidence against his existence. Marriage is a holy sacrament between a man and a women. Gays should not be able to wed, but they should be able to reap in the benefits that married couples experience, such as legal, and financial benefits.
Vro3618 3 months ago
@Vro3618
mate just because your religion claims something doesn't make it yours, you stole Christianity, now its more a secular holiday than religious, you stole easter, now the stores own it, you stole marriage and now the government owns it, religious dogma should not matter when it comes to something institutionalised by the government.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@Vro3618
" you stole Christianity"
meant to say Christmas, not Christianity.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
I wish I could give speeches as well as you do. You're so good!
hihellothere2010 3 months ago
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Name me one country where its native Caucasian population's birth rate is 2.1 (sub-replacement fertility for a developed country) or above and is expected to increase where homosexual marriage is lawfully permitted. Fact: 100 years from now rainbow ideology will be a relic of the past. Very gradual self-induced Caucasian genocide. thumbs down to this post if you are a the average white liberal.
blaneysanjose 3 months ago
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Its so impressive how someone could be proud to say i like to get fucked or vice versa in public... GAYS CARRY LOTS OF AIDS IN THEIR ASSES FOR THOSE WHO LIKES THEM, especially the type who made the question!!! WHY GAYS GOT ANGRY AND ANNOYDE WHEN PEOPLE GIVE THEIR OWN OPINIONS ABOUT THEM!! YOU GUYS ARE SICK.. GO RECOVER INSTEAD OR KILL YOURSELF!! THE WORLD HAS MUCH MORE ISSUES TO RESOLVE RATHAR THAN TALKING ABOUT YOUR DIRTY BEHAVIOURS YOU SICK PEOPLE!!
LibralThinker 3 months ago
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In jews opinion, humans are forbidden from disagreeing with jews . In jews opinion, jews are forbidden from agreeing to disagree with non-jews. In jews opinion, non-jews are human-cattle. In jews opinion, jews being proven lyers regarding human soap and lampshades, mass-electrocusions, shrunken heads, baby kindling and the 6 million figure, doesn't effect peoples faith in holocostianity one bit !
oveid 3 months ago
Yay :) Keep giving speeches all over the country in different states
MsKTMvalley 4 months ago
I'm so glad America is choosing to support Gay rights. Have a nice day!
Grandlnquisitor7 4 months ago
Wonderful speech
xephyr1000 4 months ago
I am sorry to inform you that nowhere in the bible did Christ ever permit homosexuality. Im curious, what bible are you espousing that we read , sir?You should read Romans chapter 1:18 and following!
docmacdvet 4 months ago
@docmacdvet You may have a point there! Can you point me to where he permitted use of the internet, or the car or electric light??
PaulCoyne73 3 months ago
gay.
wondubread 4 months ago
@wondubread fucking douche bag
jonahsaboss 3 months ago
@jonahsaboss really? ur a complete fag for not aggreeing with wondubread
Michaelara95 3 months ago
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@jonahsaboss really? ur a complete fag for not aggreeing with wondubread
Michaelara95 3 months ago
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@jonahsaboss really? ur a complete fagggg for not aggreeing with wondubread
Michaelara95 3 months ago
Jesus didn't even write the Bible, stfu
kristalfan4life 4 months ago
8:20 champion for slaves?
Jesus would be a bigot like anyone else... he follwoed the old testament in his teaching
aweiss 4 months ago
little bored of hearing this... opposition to equal marriage is obviously bigotry
this was delivered in a boring way
aweiss 4 months ago
wish I were gay... wouldn't have to do fakey intimacy bullshit
aweiss 4 months ago
@Tarateesh whops! Your brain is missing, must have fallen out your ass after a massive homophobic brainwash.
pvrp115 5 months ago
a wonderful intelligent young man. Run for President!
petersj16 5 months ago
When it comes to freedom rights it is a matter of all citizens, not just the homosexuals. Because even if you don't care when they take away YOUR freedom there would be no one to help you. So an issue of freedom is a issue of all the nation. I am straight and portuguese and i approve gay marriage in America, stop the "nanny state"!
slutypet 5 months ago
Jesus preached love and tolerance so as long as no harm was done to anybody and nobody's free will was taken away from them. and even when the people did both to him at the same time, he still wished for mercy and on them and held no grudge.
rhythmatist2013 5 months ago
@youjixnarunaru he didn't. In fact Jesus himself never said ANYTHING bad about homosexuals or anybody.
rhythmatist2013 5 months ago 5
@422904. Actually, if I remember correctly, adam was "created" with his first wife Lilith at the same time equally from the earth. Lilith was cast away when she would not succumb to Adams misogynistic demands, at which point Eve was created from Adams rib.
rhythmatist2013 5 months ago
I have a question. Did Jesus ever once say it was alright to bash others?
YoujiXNaruNaru 5 months ago
A quote from Galileo: "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."
Does it really make sense at all that if you are gay you cannot carry out Jesus' words? spread the gospel of love and peace (what the real meaning of being a Christian is)? Why does it matter if you are attracted to someone of the same sex?
Masterpieceman16 6 months ago
@Masterpieceman16
Yes! a homosexual person can be used by God because God can use anyone. When I look at the text found in the book of Leviticus 18:22 and also 1 Corinthians 6:9 What I see here is that clearly God is not pleased with the act of being a homosexual. Just like God is not pleased if you are a liar a thief and adulterer or an idolater. I say from reading the text in both books of the bible in its entirety living a homosexual lifestyle is contrary to the will of God.
gwanedm 1 month ago
@gwanedm oh yeah, and just like how God is not pleased if you eat any kind of shellfish such as shrimp, crab, lobster, clams, and mussels. Just read Leviticus 11:9-12, and Deuteronomy 14:9-10. That too is considered an abomination.
Masterpieceman16 1 month ago
@gwanedm I say from reading Dr Seuss there IS a big scary Cat in the Hat. :-/
circlesky73 1 month ago
@circlesky73 I think he is trying to justify his homosexual lifestyle as being acceptable to God. He is trying to equate homosexual peoples with the most oppressed peoples in our society and say that if Jesus came today in this society that he would clearly be for the homosexual. I agree with that point but I would add that if a homosexual came in contact with Jesus he would definitely not be a homosexual anymore.
MrGwaneDM 1 month ago