Forced Marriages to be Illegalized in the UK?

[discoverybube]

...it's just for middle asian girls - 。-

[enzojatt786]

YOU DIRTY PAKI BITCH GET BACK TO YA FUCKING COUNTRY

[CaligirlSofia]

@enzojatt786 RETARD

[ibidydo]

even an athiest would say its bad

[sonnylisaxx]

i read your book daughter's of shame and you are a saint helping all those poor women keep up the good work :)

[SatanBabyDollx]

Then leave Pedoslam

[MrTruthing]

Many are told that forced marriages are cultural and have nothing to do with the religion of Islam. Similarly they believe that Asian Gangs in the UK who have sex with white girls are just bad Muslims. This presentation looks at the Quran and the Hadith and asks Muslims questions to find out what they teach about these issues. Please feel free to answer those questions. You can find the presentation I am talking about by clicking on 'MrTruthing'

[CaligirlSofia]

@MrTruthing what is that suppose to me? of course gangs who rape are bad people whether muslim or not also forced marriages are cultural in fact in Islam they are forbidden and consider invalid, fact, the marriage contract in islam requires consent from both parties, maybe you should look up your sources

[H1MLA]

@CaligirlSofia Yeah so you keep saying. Remind me again, didn't Mohammed marry a baby? Then you wonder why muslim try to imitate mohammed and engage in all manner of child abuse, incest, honour killings, force marriagesand abuse of women. I'm sorry, but Islam is totally discredited as an organised religion. Look at Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Northern Nigeria, Libya and any where Islam colonise, its nothing but hell on earth. Come on, learn to think for yourself, girl :)

[CaligirlSofia]

@H1MLA no he didnt marry a baby, gosh i feel like i am speaking to an idiot, but an idiot nevers knows he is an idiot, 1) what you are speaking about are issues, and none of these issues are done by one group that is just ignorant and highly inaccurate 2) incest has no universal definition and is defined by each culture and group of ppl, fact 3) honor killings are culture issues nothing to do with religion 4) discredited??? wtf??? LOL google religion HAHAHA your such a fucking retard!!!!

[H1MLA]

@CaligirlSofia Insults are the calling cards of losers in discourse and you represent that kind well. When muslims are found wanting, your position is to practice Tayyiyah. But that isn't going to prevent the truth from coming out. Using culture as an excuse for Islam dark ages laws on women won't save you hun. Having sex with your relative is WRONG. Everyone knows that, bar muslims like you. Honour killings goes hand in hand with islam. If not, why are many murdered girls murdered?

[CaligirlSofia]

@H1MLA i would have told u to google taqiyya or watch my main video but instead i will leave u with this, a quote by Ali says "when i argue with someone more ignorant than me he wins the argument and when i argue with someone wiser than me i win the argument"

point is the stupidity of your arguments is so irrational that no one can win you with rational thinking, therefore you win, peace

[H1MLA]

@CaligirlSofia Your comments posted is the voice of muslims, who are delusional and are constant denial of how evil islamic beliefs and maltreatment of women is. Don't take my word for it. Just watch thousands of videos on YT, showing murders of women in the islamic faith club, killed in cold blood, for refusing to accept forced marriages, leaving islam, murdered via honour killing to restore muslim respect to their community. Human rights & muslims don't mix and you are proof of that. Peace!

[madawimadara]

I will teach you how to date a romantic girls

[clintoancole]

Be ready Asian women online #lushfmlk.info#

[H1MLA]

@trigga1uk It is our problem, as what these evil muslim fascists are doing is nothing short of paedophillia at best ie marrying your relative is incest and any offstrings from such unions always end up mentally disabled, hence thousands of British Pakistanis kids are mentally unbalanced because their parents are blood relatives. We should come down hard on these evil muslim backward culture, as it is sick and disgusting and not the British way.

[H1MLA]

@trigga1uk Er, I have to disagree with you there. The intolerance antics of muslims had NOTHING to do with multiculturalism (funny enough, muslim fascists often hijack multiculturalism & tolerance for their own ends when they do not believe in it). Multicultural means, the UK had a diverse culture in it citizens ethnic make up. Last time I looked, I didn't see Black, mixed-race, white or chinese brits engaging in forced marriages, do you?. Also, the racism of the BNP isn't British either.

[H1MLA]

@trigga1uk Well last time I looked, the far left aren't engaging in honour killings, racist attacks on non-white Brits, forced marriages, racist acts of discrimination, arrange marriages, rapes, etc. Listen, my point is, muslim fascists, BNP, racists, intolerant folks of all ilks are all threats to the British way of life. I want to live in a society free of all the above. Besides, the far left ain't in number 10 now, are they?

[H1MLA]

@trigga1uk Listen, this exchange is turning into a far left conspiracy and I don't subscribe to deviation from the topic at hand. Truth is, forced marriages, honouring killings and incest unions in muslim community been going on since the 50's, be it under Labour or Tory governments. Fact is, these self serving MP's of all political parties never opposed these muslims on this issue for fear of losing their votes. So please, stop this deviation nonsense and stick to the topic at hand.

[H1MLA]

@trigga1uk Which immigrants do U speak of? These problem you stated are solely related to MUSLIMS in particular & other Asian communities in general, those elders still hold these barbaric backward beliefs from their homelands & force it on their British born kids & often kill them if they refused to obey. Now, yesterday, it had been reported that Call me Dave Chameleon Tory led Reich had stop the funding of a Charity organisation that fight to end these muslims ghastly deeds. Ask urself why?

[CaligirlSofia]

@H1MLA SOLELY related to muslims, so i wont be able to find ANY other group that do that??? also i wont be able to find ANY muslims or muslim cultures that dont do this??? are you sure?????

[H1MLA]

@CaligirlSofia Well, kindly list me any other group in the UK, bar muslims & Asians who engage in force marriages and honour killings then? I'm all ears:)

[CaligirlSofia]

@H1MLA 1) MAJORITY of muslims dont engage in it dumbass, 2) christian arabs, 3) uganda they have honor killings 4) somalis dont do honor killings neither do most african muslim nations

were you dropped as a baby????

[H1MLA]

@CaligirlSofia You met, Ugandan muslims do Honour Killings? Ugandans who are not muslims do not engage in Honour killings. Stop being in denial girl, honour killings, incest marriages and force arrange marriages are mainly market sectors mostly monopolise by muslims in particular and Asians in general. Why is it, muslims are often in denial of truth? Can't you guys for once accept the facts? I guess you were practising Taryiyah.

[CLIK68]

Agree with Orange 786. Culture is treated as religion and religion as secondary. If only our people could understand what they read, they will respect it. As a male, I feel sorry for young girls. What I would say is there should be better solutions to find the right partner. I don't think marriage sites are the answer to this. Religious communities should be speaking to each other on this, including the parents. Thus, finding the right partners, with consent of the individuals.

[orange786]

It is not permissible for a muslim woman to be MADE to marry someone she does not want. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: A previously-married woman should not be married without being consulted, and a virgin should not be married without asking her permission.

I really do hate it when people mix their 'culture' with islam and then present the whole thing as islam. That is why this religon is the most misunderstood religon in the world.

[bored574]

Derby is in the Midlands!

[MrsSarb]

I cannot believe that they won't outlaw this practice. It's kidnapping at the very minimum! This is a violent act and should never be condoned in any way. They could easily ask the young woman if she wants to press charges against her parents and still protect the young girl.

[TheAkinaka]

You mean forced marriages aren't illegal in Britan as of yet?

About time something is done about this then!

@dn1074: it's not legal in the US though. It's not part of the program.

Britain once again shows that it has been turned into a joke by the leftwing nazis in charge of the country. Thank you Labour.

[sanarani66]

jasvinder sangara..the book names shame..a book in which she wrote about her life nearly brought tears to my eyes to see how much she had suffer emotionally. Its a good idea to make awareness of it in schools so they know their choices..also in those asian areas so that the parents would know that there are people out there that their children can reach to on this topic so probally from that fear they would stop doing force marriage.

[dailytimes]

I have also read this book ,this book is biased it paints a picture of asians as being evil and violent.

She seems to dig at muslims even deeper. categorizing a person as a muslim and using them as a scapegoat.

ISLAM FORBIDS FORCED MARRIAGES,

[geewhiz76]

this happens all the time. girls at school/college get told their going on holiday to stay with family. we tell them we will help them with housing etc and they always say 'my family wouldnt do that to me'. they soon learn that isnt true. these cretins are living a middle ages lifestyle in a the modern world.

[rallen888]

a common prob. in muslim culture predominantly

[dn1074]

many christians also follow the same traditions esp in polygamy in US. that jeffs guy even married off underage girls to men in their 50s just less than two yrs ago. perverts are there in every religion and culture. if people cant be humans first such nonsense will continue.

[jayr545]

Ha, good one, however with Muslims it's more so!!!! I know because I was born one!!!!!! Many, as a matter of FACT most of my relatives (Muslims) married thier first cousins. You think other other "peoples" do this? Hahahaha NO WAY NEAR AS MUCH AS MUSLIMS DO. God damn, if you only knew. It's the inbreeding like you wouldn't believe!!! Like I said, I know (my parents are first cousins).

[jayr545]

A lot of Muslims still marry their first cousins!!! I know many of them in the US, who have come from different countries & even the ones that grew up in the US still marry their first cousins!!! I was told that it says in the Quran, that it's better to marry a first cousin over a stranger. Many bad genes are passed on like this...guaranteed (for over 1400 years)

[BOLSHEVIXTREME]

i once fell for a muslim girl

however,she told me we couldnt be a couple because i wasnt a muslim

[naughtynaughtyd]

not all asians r like this, mostly its muslims and sikhs!

[234NOTORIOUS]

hey all.. this is shit.. i got an assignment to do on forced marriages 4 uni.. needed some help! ne1 lol??

[malt8291]

you should live by the law of the land.if u wanna do this backwards shit stay in pakistan.you ppl give all asians a bad name.cuz most r not like this.

[aswightman]

is this insane, how can they allow forced marriage--if you don't want to abide by the consititution, get the fuck out

[KUTEEEASA]

begerut mirpuriz do tht alwys,,thy evn giv their daughter 2 kutta,bt its shud belong 2 family,,,

[clauseee]

The problem of Forced Marriages is more persistent in the backward areas and villages, where is lack of education.

[DERBYSHIRE4EVER]

forced marriage is high from mirpuri families

arseholes

[bravouk666]

truw every true

but we cant just blame them for every thing

as thats bit deep

[bravouk666]

whats wrong with brit asians?

Here in Pakistan and even in india force marriage thing is almost finished

and inshaAllah one day it will vanish

[daggu]

bravouk6662 ameen to your sayings but trust me it still happends and yes its started to fade away in our countries but the cultural values are still in our parents who migrated in the western countries. I volunter to Karma nirvana and its sooo sad at times the stories you hear makes u think can your parents really do this to you?

[bravouk666]

well i am not brit at all , lived whole life in Pakistan here in uk since 6 years for studies , will be done soon and will go back

i think brit asians are still living in 60's and 70's as force marriage is a joke from where come from

arrange marriage is still there but its not as the ones i have seen here

[daggu]

ur right am a british born and have always stayed in touch closely with my country and i could say pakistan is more westernised than what u would see in a typical asian families...parents who have come didnt leave there cultural values at heathrow airport thy came with them!!! thank god this subject have come to light and inshallah soon it will vanish

[bravouk666]

there is big difference between culture and tridition

tridition can be wrong and should be corrected. these things are triditinal not cultural

i am sindhi pakistani , and i prouid of my sindhi culture but if some thign in sindhi culture is triditional then i dont mind changing it.

[daggu]

what really annoys me is that these traditions and cultural things why do people drag them and say its religion issue when it clearly isnt..i have come across many people who think in islam women have less respect then men, women are like slaves, its ok to kill a women when islam and other religion are all loving and peaceful religions!! may allah guid us all to the right path

[bravouk666]

exactly

people just mix 2 things and call it religion

[DERBYSHIRE4EVER]

YOU R VERY RIGHT

[DERBYSHIRE4EVER]

the parents of most pakistanis who r forced into marriage are from azad kashmir (mirpur)

i am from rawalpindi and thank god nothing like this has happened there to my knowledge

[frankw1971]

Who cares!  Not my problem

[MajinOtaku83]

This is incredibly disturbing. Information is the key, the children should be given the full information as to what they should do. After all, it's their life.

[safrazabba]

These perants who force their children to get married to someone of their choice are just stupid. If they care about them they wouldn't do that and also if they are muslim its against the religion too.

[easynowww]

Parents arent stupid to get their kids into marriange/forced marriages, the children say no because they are doing immoral things like sex before marriage, dating, drugs, drink etc, parents force because they know its best for their kids, parents bring u up, clean u, feed u, give u shelter so why say no to an arranged marriage, at least try it, if it doesnt work out then fine, but reason why kids say n because they are selfish, wrong doers, wud u still own ur son/dauhgter if dey do drugs sex etc

[Pologameboy]

easynow

What on earth is immoral about sex outside marriage and dating?

Not all drugs are bad... ecstacy for example makes you nice to other people... (maybe gang members should be force fed it)

Parents DONT always know whats best. many are stupid, abusive or into those drink and drugs.

Why try letting yourself get raped and impreganted... then your life is over.

Arranged marriages are like pimping and often backed up with threats of violence.

Sex should be with somone you like

[Pologameboy]

quote easy

bring u up, clean u, feed u, give u shelter

So is that not what slave owners did?

How about when we make clones to be used as sex slaves or soldiers etc?

You sound like a rapist pimp if you want to control who people have sex with & lot let them form their own relatioships.

Parents are their to bring a kids up to be independant of them,to be able to survive & succeed.

Parents know best? oh right thats why a mates dad's idea of sex ed was second home from the back son

[khi195]

So you're trying to say that if you don't have an arranged marriage then you're an immoral person, are you stupid? There has to be mutual consent, meaning that both parties need to agree. So all the people who are locked up in jail should have had an arranged marriage! How do explain the Pakis who have an arranged marriage; wife at home and a girlfriend outside?

[markhorneyuk]

I'm not against arranged marriages, I'm just against FORCED arrange marriages, everyone has a right to say no.

[Pologameboy]

Ermmn arraanged when age 6 when they dont know different

[markhorneyuk]

why not, I mean, I wouldn't force them at that age to marry, let them make their choice at 16 when the time comes.

[Pologameboy]

Im sorry

quote

make their choice at 16 when the time comes.

What the hell does the average 16 yr old know about the right choice in deciding one person U are always going to live with.

16 year olds should be dating & discovering the opposite sex with a hell of a lot of support from parents, friends, schools etc.

But no relatioships on the serious, perminant & finacial commitments like a mortage for years.

ie think leaner plate relationships.

Leave them to choose WHEN ready

[markhorneyuk]

well, 16 is the legal age of marriage in the UK, I still stand by what I said, I'm not against arrange marriages, just forced arrangements, they have the choice to say no.

[Pologameboy]

Thing is when you allow arranged marriage then conservative types see it as an excuse to force things. to dominate either by viloence or things like emotional balckmail, ostracisim form families etc.

So safer not to allow it at all.

I have no problems with a bit of matchmaking if the kids are shy. thats helping kids not be alone. But if they find their own leave them be unless that person is really bad getting them on hard drugs, attracking them, into gangs etc

[Pologameboy]

16 should be a guidline age. Some becoming sexaully active before, some after but close to that age. people mature at different rates.

Makes an awful lot of sense to become sexaully active whilst living at home with parents.

And doing so over a long period of time from holding hands to living together.

As said you have to stop ALL arrenged marriage to stamp out the honour killings.

Plus stop these people goign abroad

[markhorneyuk]

Wait a minute, isn't forced marriages already illegal?

[chaudhrysahab]

This is Bulshit....!

COMPLETE PROPAGANDA FROM WEST AGAINST MUSLIMS & PAKISTAN.

[Pologameboy]

so you saying it does not happen? the bodies say different

Likewise having met plenty of girls who say their brother wont let them date

[Pologameboy]

er no its not.

Take off the rosey tinted glasses.

Its pretty common place

[MANCKIE]

Vote BNP..end the filth

[UniteAgainstFascisim]

what a hate filled person you are, this video is about the sick inhumane muslim practice of using women and girls as sex toys

anyone with a sense of morality would find this practice wicked and sick.

Like i said VOTE BNP

take the voice away from filthy perverts like the person below me

[DERBYSHIRE4EVER]

the problem in the u.k is BNP. 4 u guys there is no positive solution. it is not muslims who are doing this, it is the ignorant people.

[Pologameboy]

BNP have the same attiudes as the nutty muslims

[Grundibular]

The word you're looking for 'criminalised'.