Why don't you use the Massacre more? Tor can't fire the Phantom hammer after he loses a few health bars, and it deals more damage than a charge ball does.
@LordTyphoon If you keep dodging Tor's charge balls, he'll send a shockwave that knocks Iji in the air. If you get hit by that, the Phantom Hammer is unavoidable; it's a blue-white beam that instantly kills her. (To add insult to injury, it reduces all your stats to 1 too.)
Possibly the most amazing fight (many attacks, interesting patterns, very closely matched power, etc.) of any Indie Game out there. Or at least, that I've played, and that's quite a few.
Honestly, with the music and all, this should be something of an example for "real" game companies. This fight is BAD ASS.
@EReflexer Nah, that's not it. The reward is different conversations, which is also a reward for completing certain requirements or using different items or whatnot.
The difference in the actual ending is just whether or not Dan survives. And to do a real pacifist run, Dan has to survive.
@LordTyphoon Actually, Dan's survival is optional to a pacifist run. You need to avoid killing Iosa by getting Ansaksie to do it for you, and you need to avoid killing Asha by using the Velocithor on the power core. (Also, you have to avoid killing the regular enemies.)
@LordTyphoon Oh, whoops; you're right. I thought you were thinking that Dan was somehow required to avoid one of those other two plot-related kills, completely forgetting about the trooper.
People over on TvTropes have speculated that destroying the teleport destination causes whoever was teleporting to get stuck in hyperspace or something, which would be why it doesn't count as a kill. (Of course, getting stuck in hyperspace for the rest of your life wouldn't be pleasant, either.)
@LordTyphoon it counts as a kill if you don't trap him, it doen't count a kill when you trap him because you did not phsically kill him, he killed himself by teleporting
Its really a shame that nothing significantly changes for the better weather you go pacifist or not. A few people help you, you get blamed for killing a few people you didn't actually kill. you reveal a bit more plot and that it. Hours of the day all gone just for that.
and its not like its easy going 0 kills neither. i failed my first 2 tries, first from not knowing a bouncing turret = kills and second, [didnt have the weapon to blow the core in sector x]
It's not that hard, and the fact that 95% of the dialogue in the game changes (ok, the outcome remains the same, but that's not so bad) and the fact you have some more events/opportunities make it very worthwhile to at least try out.
The difference between a normal game and a pacific game is much more imposing and gives you alot more feedback than some "open-ended" games these day do, and this is just a free, indie game.
Watch the other part, on the level you're supposed to kill him you can skip the part where you open up the core by using some weapon (forget the name) that fires through walls to destroy it
Therefor you don't open the walls and never cross Asha
Try maximum charge. I managed to beat this boss on that difficulty(maxed charged as well) and it was kinda hard(hey, after fighting Normal Maxed charged and Ultimortal difficulty, shit in this game gets easier).
And yes, did it with a pacifistic run(and 1.5) with 0 kills.
I tried a few times but man, maximum charge rapes me. Even though I did start playing again recently, having beaten Ultimortal before doesn't mean much to me anymore because I lost most of my acquired skill :P
anyone know why i lag on this game? i have a 512mb nvidia graphics, 4 gb ram, dual cores, and i shut off most programs like antivirus and stuff....any ideas anyone? please?
This is interesting to me since i experience extreme slowdown in this area, even after the game auto-lowers my settings, and I am running an overclocked x3350 (q9450) at 3.4 GHz, 8 GB RAM and 2 8800GT's in Sli
All bosses health are depleted to nearly nothing, all enemies (Including Annilators) die in two hits from a shotgun, and you can skip the second asha fight, and tor can be taken down by a velocithor nearly instantly. Immortal is the harder one: but it is still easy, on Sudden death sector, you must be VERY patient. Now, I go get 10 ribbons and get Null Driver :D
Sudden death sector is WAY toned down: Commanders die with two shotgun blasts, krotera dies nearly instantly, his health bar is DRASTICALLY decreased. It's easier than I thought.
Got Nanomaster. It is actually VERY easy. Tried killing everything in Sector Z, no difference. I still think there are different ways to get mister Null Driver >.>
Sudden death sector = 1 HP through every sector: I cannot do it. If I go nuts on Ultimortal with Tor, there is no way I can beat him with 1HP. However, There IS a video on the Null Driver.
I'll watch it someday I guess. But seriously, I hated Ultimortal Asha more, cause you had to do half the level over if you failed. At least you restart at Tor, and Tor is a much funnier fight than Asha.
Though still a giant pain. But I was fucking pumped when I got up there on Ultimortal :)
Oh, wow. Immortal apparently doesn't require 0 damage, just less than 100. The manual says so.This makes the hardest thing to complete Sudden Death sector, wow >_>
I can't imagine Sector X on sudden death. I can hardly imagine ANY sector after 4 on sudden death. I think Nanomaster sounds easy though, unless there are only 100 crack points in the game. Immortal basically sounds impossible.
I already had enough trouble doing Ultimortal (I ultimately succeed, thank god)
But I kinda lost hope when I saw I still have to do all the sudden death sectors and immortal/nanomaster to get the null driver. I don't think it's worth it anymore :(
tbh, I don't really know. I only finished two runs of the game, and the major difference I had was Dan dead/alive, so I'd have to try a few more times to see differences. ;/
Didn't mean to offend you if you have an older/weaker PC. I don't see how it sounds going too fast though, but that might be due to audio compression, it's buggy sometimes.
To be honest, I haven't even unlocked Turbo yet. I still have to beat Ultimortal, which I unlocked right after doing this vid, you see ;)
Huh, I guess your computer must be really good for gaming, then. Although, (and I will admit that during the fully charged battle with this guy on Normal, it did lag like hell the first few attempts) even when the quality auto-lowered to the lowest setting, it was not as fast as this.
Like... mine was about a x0.85 speed compared to yours, to use an easy comparison.
Played Tor again, it still lagged, but it looked like yours is way faster in comparison.
I guess there is just too much going on in the foreground and background for some computers to keep up. (For example, the epic transformation sequence uses god knows how many parts XD)
The Massacre gun is unlocked if you get to that point in the game with zero kills. I think it was added in 1.3 along with the workarounds to the two previously unavoidable kills.
The first time I saw General Tor jump into the air and explode, I was so confused I thought I won.
TheArcticwolf15 7 months ago
One of the best boss fights in any game, ever.
I just wanna know how you're getting 2 HP from health powerups on extreme :p
Ferret5317 8 months ago
@Ferret5317 Look at that maxed out assimilate skill
At least I think that's it, it's been years
LordTyphoon 8 months ago
Why do you keep skipping the story?
Tokanova 11 months ago
@Tokanova Because that's not what I'm trying to show. If people want to read here, they can always press pause.
LordTyphoon 11 months ago
Why don't you use the Massacre more? Tor can't fire the Phantom hammer after he loses a few health bars, and it deals more damage than a charge ball does.
FlyingSagittarius 1 year ago
@FlyingSagittarius Honestly, I don't remember; it's been two years since I did this
However, I guess I might've underestimated the Massacre's ability, and maybe shunned it since it makes me hurt myself.
But it's been forever since I played this, I don't even recall what the phantom hammer is..
LordTyphoon 1 year ago
@LordTyphoon If you keep dodging Tor's charge balls, he'll send a shockwave that knocks Iji in the air. If you get hit by that, the Phantom Hammer is unavoidable; it's a blue-white beam that instantly kills her. (To add insult to injury, it reduces all your stats to 1 too.)
FlyingSagittarius 1 year ago
@FlyingSagittarius Oh that.
I think I only had it happen once and I had to have it happen on purpose.. ;P
LordTyphoon 1 year ago
@FlyingSagittarius yeah i had to look up a lets play to figure out what to do that happand to me the first time throu
wildberryblast 7 months ago
What's happening at 7:13? Tor's blowing himself? How?
lolik66666 1 year ago
ни одного убийства?! Круто!!
MrRerered 1 year ago
My personal favorite game ever!
cellopypo 1 year ago
Possibly the most amazing fight (many attacks, interesting patterns, very closely matched power, etc.) of any Indie Game out there. Or at least, that I've played, and that's quite a few.
Honestly, with the music and all, this should be something of an example for "real" game companies. This fight is BAD ASS.
jeremy2d 1 year ago 14
@jeremy2d Hell yeah, that is true.
LordTyphoon 1 year ago 5
@EReflexer Nah, that's not it. The reward is different conversations, which is also a reward for completing certain requirements or using different items or whatnot.
The difference in the actual ending is just whether or not Dan survives. And to do a real pacifist run, Dan has to survive.
LordTyphoon 1 year ago
@LordTyphoon Actually, Dan's survival is optional to a pacifist run. You need to avoid killing Iosa by getting Ansaksie to do it for you, and you need to avoid killing Asha by using the Velocithor on the power core. (Also, you have to avoid killing the regular enemies.)
Saving Dan is entirely separate.
NeverStopGaming 1 year ago
@NeverStopGaming I thought if Dan died she shot the Komato trooper and that counted as a kill
Then again maybe I'm wrong, trapping him doesn't count as a kill (which is odd..)
LordTyphoon 1 year ago
@LordTyphoon Oh, whoops; you're right. I thought you were thinking that Dan was somehow required to avoid one of those other two plot-related kills, completely forgetting about the trooper.
People over on TvTropes have speculated that destroying the teleport destination causes whoever was teleporting to get stuck in hyperspace or something, which would be why it doesn't count as a kill. (Of course, getting stuck in hyperspace for the rest of your life wouldn't be pleasant, either.)
NeverStopGaming 1 year ago
@LordTyphoon it counts as a kill if you don't trap him, it doen't count a kill when you trap him because you did not phsically kill him, he killed himself by teleporting
JayTheHelmetGuy 1 year ago
stop skipping through the dialog so fast. I have to keep pausing.
cheeselovingtree 1 year ago
Its really a shame that nothing significantly changes for the better weather you go pacifist or not. A few people help you, you get blamed for killing a few people you didn't actually kill. you reveal a bit more plot and that it. Hours of the day all gone just for that.
and its not like its easy going 0 kills neither. i failed my first 2 tries, first from not knowing a bouncing turret = kills and second, [didnt have the weapon to blow the core in sector x]
so, i was disapointed.
Usersunited 2 years ago
It's not that hard, and the fact that 95% of the dialogue in the game changes (ok, the outcome remains the same, but that's not so bad) and the fact you have some more events/opportunities make it very worthwhile to at least try out.
The difference between a normal game and a pacific game is much more imposing and gives you alot more feedback than some "open-ended" games these day do, and this is just a free, indie game.
LordTyphoon 2 years ago
How do you not kill Asha?
Bassium08 2 years ago
Watch the other part, on the level you're supposed to kill him you can skip the part where you open up the core by using some weapon (forget the name) that fires through walls to destroy it
Therefor you don't open the walls and never cross Asha
LordTyphoon 2 years ago
@LordTyphoon The Nuke?
ZaikiTheLycan 1 year ago
Try maximum charge. I managed to beat this boss on that difficulty(maxed charged as well) and it was kinda hard(hey, after fighting Normal Maxed charged and Ultimortal difficulty, shit in this game gets easier).
And yes, did it with a pacifistic run(and 1.5) with 0 kills.
ForcedDj 2 years ago
I tried a few times but man, maximum charge rapes me. Even though I did start playing again recently, having beaten Ultimortal before doesn't mean much to me anymore because I lost most of my acquired skill :P
LordTyphoon 2 years ago
anyone know why i lag on this game? i have a 512mb nvidia graphics, 4 gb ram, dual cores, and i shut off most programs like antivirus and stuff....any ideas anyone? please?
pranksterprince15 2 years ago
Something's very wrong here, that's all I can say.
LordTyphoon 2 years ago
Uhh, no Idea, I run this game on my 5 year old computer with no problems whatsoever. Do you have Vista? If so, get rid of it.
JaundiceJaun 2 years ago
thats very likely vistadoes suck the big one good thing i have my XP discs still from my other computer lol
pranksterprince15 2 years ago
Might be because you play on vista or something like that, gmaker has those problems, try to look into the gmthread or contact remar himself.
karlpetter1337 2 years ago
WHATS THAT WEP?!
FalcoGer 2 years ago
Also, it's the gun you get when you do a pacific run.
LordTyphoon 2 years ago
how do you run on the ocean? arent you trapped in a building? ;P
sadfib 2 years ago
mhm clever
LordTyphoon 2 years ago
next time i want to see that with maximum charge^^
FalcoGer 2 years ago
Believe me I tried. I'm just not good enough..
LordTyphoon 2 years ago
and see my Iji on icy tower!
hfgfdcrdtred 2 years ago
who is the trhee kids at end playing on a dead Iosa? I see a boy, possible Dan, but where is Iji!
hfgfdcrdtred 2 years ago
They're random kids. It's just to show life still exists.
LordTyphoon 2 years ago
thx
hfgfdcrdtred 2 years ago
crist
jorao666 2 years ago
What kind of CPU do you have?
AerialBlast 2 years ago
Is that even actually relevant?
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200, slightly overclocked at 3.2ghz
LordTyphoon 2 years ago
Well, I asked because I noticed how you have literally zero lag... and I want to be able to fight like that =[
AerialBlast 2 years ago
This is interesting to me since i experience extreme slowdown in this area, even after the game auto-lowers my settings, and I am running an overclocked x3350 (q9450) at 3.4 GHz, 8 GB RAM and 2 8800GT's in Sli
iLikeCh3eZe 2 years ago
Got the Null Driver. Sorry for the multiple posts >_>.
Zeroflare21 3 years ago
It's ok.
Either way, I haven't touched the game since I beat Ultimortal whatever time ago. :(
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
Right then..
*MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR SUDDEN DEATH SECTOR AHEAD*
All bosses health are depleted to nearly nothing, all enemies (Including Annilators) die in two hits from a shotgun, and you can skip the second asha fight, and tor can be taken down by a velocithor nearly instantly. Immortal is the harder one: but it is still easy, on Sudden death sector, you must be VERY patient. Now, I go get 10 ribbons and get Null Driver :D
Zeroflare21 3 years ago
Sudden death sector is WAY toned down: Commanders die with two shotgun blasts, krotera dies nearly instantly, his health bar is DRASTICALLY decreased. It's easier than I thought.
Zeroflare21 3 years ago
Got Nanomaster. It is actually VERY easy. Tried killing everything in Sector Z, no difference. I still think there are different ways to get mister Null Driver >.>
Zeroflare21 3 years ago
Would still need Immortal and Sudden Death Sectors, so.. I don't think I'm still interested in this game enough to bother doing that :P
Though if you find out other ways, do tell :)
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
Sudden death sector = 1 HP through every sector: I cannot do it. If I go nuts on Ultimortal with Tor, there is no way I can beat him with 1HP. However, There IS a video on the Null Driver.
Zeroflare21 3 years ago
I'll watch it someday I guess. But seriously, I hated Ultimortal Asha more, cause you had to do half the level over if you failed. At least you restart at Tor, and Tor is a much funnier fight than Asha.
Though still a giant pain. But I was fucking pumped when I got up there on Ultimortal :)
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
Oh, wow. Immortal apparently doesn't require 0 damage, just less than 100. The manual says so.This makes the hardest thing to complete Sudden Death sector, wow >_>
Zeroflare21 3 years ago
I'm still pretty poor at avoiding damage :P
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
what does sudden death sector do? o0
AsterisKSC 3 years ago
Aww,You should of done Maximum Power for General Tor
GOD,I fucking hate Maximum Power Tor xD
SoraFan24 3 years ago
I'm not too good friends with Maximum Charge Tor either..
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
I can't imagine Sector X on sudden death. I can hardly imagine ANY sector after 4 on sudden death. I think Nanomaster sounds easy though, unless there are only 100 crack points in the game. Immortal basically sounds impossible.
Zeroflare21 3 years ago
Feel my pain :(
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
Crackmaster is eeaaasy... Unless cracking enemies doesn't count.
jopomeister 3 years ago
Also, lawl. Detonator on the charge shot XD.
Carrottime 3 years ago
Lawl, now do it on Ultimortal while getting Immortal and go through sector Z with all 10 ribbons.
..Hell, I'm having enough trouble as it is with Immortal myself XD
Carrottime 3 years ago
I already had enough trouble doing Ultimortal (I ultimately succeed, thank god)
But I kinda lost hope when I saw I still have to do all the sudden death sectors and immortal/nanomaster to get the null driver. I don't think it's worth it anymore :(
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
Is there any point to a pacifist run besides a different ending?
ninetails593 3 years ago
Many events are different in the game, making it a pretty different playthrough from playing it normally.
You also get the massacre weapon.
And e-props.
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
what are e-props?
ninetails593 3 years ago
e-props is a length unit that measures your
e-willy
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
...what?
ninetails593 3 years ago
it was a joke ok
just forget it
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
say, I know that the ending changes slightly when you have gotten all 10 ribbons, how does the ending change? I really want to know.
kemix1006 3 years ago
tbh, I don't really know. I only finished two runs of the game, and the major difference I had was Dan dead/alive, so I'd have to try a few more times to see differences. ;/
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
If only we could use the Phantom hammer, we probably could if it weren't several hundered times the size of Iji's body
bochicawowers 3 years ago
Where would be the fun in that though?
I'm content enough I can use bananas.
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
Combining the level 10 weapons for Tasen and Komato is as close to the Phantom Hammer as it gets.
Gigaspine7 3 years ago
ahhhhhhhhhh. so there is a way to defeat him.
awesomeimagination 3 years ago
Mercifully, not Maximum Charged Tor....now THAT would be nasty.
SaviourV 3 years ago
Wouldn't it? I tried it on Single Sector and got blasted into oblivion :(
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
You have got to be using Turbo mode, there is no way a computer could run this fast during the final fight.
Insho 3 years ago
Maybe if we were stuck in 2002, I'd agree.
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
Owch, harsh...
As far as I have seen on youtube and played, the last fight always lagged because of the sheer size of everything going on.
Plus, it sounds like it is going too fast. (THe Phantom cannon charging, etc.)
Insho 3 years ago
Didn't mean to offend you if you have an older/weaker PC. I don't see how it sounds going too fast though, but that might be due to audio compression, it's buggy sometimes.
To be honest, I haven't even unlocked Turbo yet. I still have to beat Ultimortal, which I unlocked right after doing this vid, you see ;)
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
Huh, I guess your computer must be really good for gaming, then. Although, (and I will admit that during the fully charged battle with this guy on Normal, it did lag like hell the first few attempts) even when the quality auto-lowered to the lowest setting, it was not as fast as this.
Like... mine was about a x0.85 speed compared to yours, to use an easy comparison.
Insho 3 years ago
That's odd.
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
No, it's slow. XD
Played Tor again, it still lagged, but it looked like yours is way faster in comparison.
I guess there is just too much going on in the foreground and background for some computers to keep up. (For example, the epic transformation sequence uses god knows how many parts XD)
Insho 3 years ago
Well, as long as it's playable..
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
The Massacre gun is unlocked if you get to that point in the game with zero kills. I think it was added in 1.3 along with the workarounds to the two previously unavoidable kills.
Uratoh42 3 years ago
I figured, I just never stumbled upon an actual 0 kills run. Fun to know it was "recently" (idk when 1.3 came out) added though.
LordTyphoon 3 years ago
Well since the Massacre is only there with zero kills, and you HAD to get two kills pre 1.3, it's only safe to assume it was added in 1.3.
Uratoh42 3 years ago