Georg Kulenkampff plays Schumann violin concerto Part1

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[Allanfearn]

I am a little puzzled by the claim that it was Joachim who suppressed the concerto. The English edition of his letters, published before the first world war, has more than one written to Schumann, indicating that a) he had played the work more than once (presumably run-throughs), and had decided on his tempo for the polonaise finale and b) he liked it. Perhaps he was over-ruled by Clara, or Clara and Brahms. Kulenkampff actually recorded the Mendelssohn concerto in Germany in 1935!

[raymondwongviolin]

The best interpretation of Schumann violin concerto,even better then the young Menuhin version!

[MrConductor1984]

It is really beutiful played and catches the sense of the music, as I feel it. But I have a really big problem with Kulenkampff changing Schumann's text. Why did he do so? I can't hear any musical sense, it doesn't even sound more viruosic..

[crazy77town]

much more authentic interpretation than Menuhin's

[petrof4056]

@crazy77town I think so :)

[47viviane]

@dionemanarmy: it wasn't the violinist who juggled the octaves up it was Hindemith (ironically ordained by the fascists to pep it up to be performed instead of the banned Mendelssohn concerto - later on they couldn't acknowledge HIM of course) who - brightend it up or butchered it - depending on the listener's point of view. The first recording of the original score was done by Kremer (as far as I know) - I prefer the concerto as Schumann wrote it but this recording here is phenomenal thanks!!!

[leoncioviolin]

precioso concierto

[diOneManArmy]

A magnificent concert. Truly a shame Joachim supressed it for almost a century. Thanks to Kulenkampff for reviving it. I like the modifications where he moved some notes up a octave, or maybe I'm the one with the modfied sheets.

[cellessti]

I´m not able to argue or disagree properly, but I humbly opine, Menuhin had time advantage; so the sound of his violin and also the orchestral performance are clearer and brighter; just this. Anyway Schumann here (I heard its 2nd movement, by other violinist) seemed so confused, that this can´t be considered as one of his great works. Brahms perhaps can yet be "foreseen" here, but Schumann just had some intentions! Cheers to Kulenkampff though.

[pviola314]

schumann didn't want its publication within many many years of his life time. It's really love or hate it for what it is: pure Schumann... master of the miniature. For me this helps in hearing this.

[bogenrechtsgeigerlin]

Sorry, word limits:

If anyone has any doubts about Kulenkampff's greatness, listen to the extraordinary live recording of Sibelius just 6 years later, the time of the horror of Stalingrad, which Petrof4056 has also posted(thanks Petrov!).

Given equal opportunity, Kulenkampff might well have given Yehudi a run for his money.

And I have no doubt they would have loved each other.

[bogenrechtsgeigerlin]

By and large I have to agree with ClassicalMusicReview. But think of Kuhlenkampff's position in 1937: Menuhin is pariah, Busch has left in disgust, Kuhlenkampff has not had a primary career as a soloist, Kulenkampff is expected to do duty as Geiger des Abendlandes, and revive a problematic work to the repertoire while not offending Party discipline. He wouldn't exactly want his vibrato to sound Jewish, would he?

[ClassicalMusicReview]

This conducting is tepidly polite nonsense better abstracted for a Victor Herbert musical,but then it's perfect for the soloist who behaves in exactly the same way with this rhetoric.This soloist in this movement is playing lovely violin,NOT expressing anything beyond the absolutely polite political correctness of that minimalist absoluteness.

[TenorLayClerk]

Note that this was recorded in 1937 and the version we hear now is just a "ghost" of the original. Listen beyond the mechanics and the artistry is there to enjoy.

[ClassicalMusicReview]

Dear Tenor,You can't be serious here?!? There is no artistry.Just vapid elegant technique with sweet tones.The sound may be a 'ghost' but the interpretation(the lack of it) comes through as clear as the day it was pressed.

[TenorLayClerk]

I would appreciate your recommendation of an alternative to illustrate your point of view.

[ClassicalMusicReview]

Dear Tenor,Feel free to peruse my Schumann review playlists or follow the daily tournament being held over the interpretation of the Kreisleriana or read my comments on the Menuhin.

[Violinjunky]

Really like the playing and the Schumann--the first movement is the best

[OriginalMoonbeam]

Thanks so much for this download--wonderful violinist and magnificent performance!

[yoyoloveT]

Oh!!! Thank you!!!

I was waiting for THIS !!!

[Lux019]

Ça fait longtemps que je voulais mettre la main sur cette enregistrement...

Ça m'apparait un peu moins fluide que Menuhib-Barbirolli, mais le jeu de Kulhenkampff a quelque chose de différent.

[petrof4056]

certes, il est possible que la fluidité du son de menuhin soit "attachant" mais il n'avait pas la connaissance et la grande imagination que possède kulenkampff qui a pu créer ce concerto. Il avait plus d'expérience aussi c'est vrai

[iedsri]

Fantastic. Thanks so much for posting this! As Menuhin said, this piece really is "the missing link".

[violin03]

Great violinist, indeed! Thanks.

[petrof4056]

Ceci est le premier enregistrement de ce concerto! This recording is the first about this concerto!

[papidou1934]

magnifique interprétation,document précieux.

[petrof4056]

Merci, sachez que c'est lui qui a crée ce concerto inconnu à la mort de schumann. Le concerto n'a été retrouvé qu'en 1937, Kulenkampff a été choisi pour l'arranger pour qu'il soit plus "violonistique" (schumann était pianiste) sans bien sûr tout changé. Il a gardé quasiment tout de l'original. Merci de votre commentaire, cet enregistrement est précieux comme vous le dîtes.