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  • It's amazing how every dickhead with an IQ of less than 50 is impressed by Eleni

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  • @NZOskar I loved Eleni...heartbreaking book written by a heartbroken son. I read it often just to give thanks that life is what it is and not what it was.

    

  • we are going to become our servants like in the time of ali pashas....you are proving that you cannot have a state....greece is a failed country...let us help u..... :)

  • ΝΕΟΝΑΖΙ=ΝΕΟΤΟΥΡΚΟΙ,

    ΕΑΜ=ΒΟΥΛΓΑΡΟΙ

    ΚΑΤΩ Ο ΦΑΣΙΣΜΟΣ Κ Ο ΚΟΜΜΟΥΝΙΣΜΟΣ

    ΥΠΕΡΑΝΩ ΟΛΩΝ Η ΕΛΛΑΣ

  • Zervas was Souliote, his command was many Arvantikan and the VlakhoArvantikan who disagreed with Diamandi. See book and movie Elleni about crimes committed by Andartes.

  • 2011 shtet evropjan greku mather fucker fashtista moter qir po do me humbur historin shqiptare

  • Blood will wash Blood motherfucking gay greeks!

  • ......4.000 civilians, massacred in two days, most of them passed through a sword or cut in two with an adze, and the Have you seen pictures or images of how they arrived in Albania???? One that leaves prepaired , not against his will,doesn't leave like that, with just a clothe on over the body.

  • @arbanit1 you can argue sense with fucking gay greeks. They only way to argue with motherfucking gayreeks is to fucking cut their heads off and remove their body organs like the kosovars did to the serbs in kosov!

  • so at the end they are saying, that 20.000 chams "left unasked, after the killing of the greek man...",is this serious,???"after that the greek man was killed, they left unasked...". Just the end of it, is enough to prove that this is not historical but political documentary.If someone kills (litterally slaughters) 4.000 people in just two days, 4.000 civilians and not soldiers, killed inside villages, not in a frontal war, killed at the gates of their homes......

  • very educational thank you !!!!

    5*****

  • xeretai ti exei simasia.....o eam me ton edes EIXAN ''PISTEUO'' kati pou exoume xasei EMEIS SIMERA......an itan sosto olo auto pou ginotan einai allo thema......!!!!!

  • Ζητω ο Ζερβας..Ζητω ο ηρωικος ΕΔΕΣ..Ενωμενη δεξια εναντια στον ανθελληνικο φασισμο-σωβινισμο..

  • Zito o hrwas Zervas

  • @IllyrianArberore The albanians people did not side with the germans ?? Oboy of course we did and many did it. Balli Kombetar had thousends of soliders in Kosova Chameria Illirida the Germans wanted to help the albanians not occupie.

  • @1337yalla man the stories of the gay greeks are fucking hilarious. First you say Epir was greek then they were albanians who colaborated with nazis then they were gayreeks wtf man

  • Napoleon Zervas was souli and Souli are Albanians such as Marku Bocari

  • some people "dislike" truth

  • I am a Cam or Cham,and this video its only a greek propoganda,okay in every country we had people who chose the german side,but this doesn't mean that you have to kill innocent people,they didn't leave their home by freewill,they live it because the bastard Zerva killed innocent women and child of chams.

    But don't you worry,what comes around goes around.

  • people, why you want to start fighting for conflict of WWII ,this period is gone

    some troops sided with nazi some with red comunists indeed they're interests to keep the state alive or to survive at least

    you can`t judge very well from the civilian wars many innocent people had a bad fate so what know a revange?

    common what about the comunist regime many albanians attented in Greece as no choice stop thinking about Cames also they sided in front of Ottomans do you think what does it mean this!?

  • Zervas was the real Nazi this is will be known over the world!

  • MODERN ALBANIA CRIMESCRIME IN ALBANIAincreasingly active transshipment point for Southwest Asian opiates, hashish, and cannabis transiting the Balkan route and - to a lesser extent - cocaine from South America destined for Western Europe; limited opium and growing cannabis production; ethnic Albanian narcotrafficking organizations active and expanding in Europe; vulnerable to money laundering associated with regional trafficking in narcotics, arms, contraband, and illegal aliens

  • @IllyrianArberore albanians and nazi , where good with eachother, hitler liked pure races, that why he lieve the albanians in peace

  • @IllyrianArberore Maybe everyone on earth is Albanian?For crying out loud,stop Albanians.Stop.Are you trying to copy the Skopjans who are trying to steal history from others?

  • @Tsagia hmm no but you are... take Marko Bocari as an example

  • @IllyrianArberore Zervas saved greece from the Soviet Agents of EAM ELAS. We are very lucky that Zervas won and EAM ELAS lost. Imagin if Greece was part of the Soviet Communist system, We would be even worse now, we would be like Bulgaria, Romania and Yugoslavia/Serbia or Albania. Thank Zervas for helping defeat the Communist. It was a tragedy that Zervas supported the attacks on Albanian people, but also it was a mistake of the Albanian to side with the Germans - that was fair in War.

  • @IllyrianArberore zervas was albanian???hahahaha you make me laugh

  • @Sotos7Xania arvanite greek orthodox. he sa himself as a greek. thats why he killed arvanite muslims chams. because it was a dangeroud of his own believings, he was a greek.

  • Chams collaborated with axis and made many atrocities and monstrocities against the greeks, they deserved to be beheaded not just exiled.

  • @IllyrianArberore ZERVAS WAS GREEK.YOU ARE SQIPTARE.YOU ARE FROM KASPIA.YOU CANT TALK TO GREEKS ABOUT HISTORY.TSAMS ARE NAZIS.

  • Zervas was Suliote, Col. Zotis was Arvantikan and so was most of his command. People of Ioannina -Greek Arvantikan and Vlakh were for Zervas. EDES made efforts to hide Romaniotevroi from German SS. EDES helped blow up Aegispotami bridge. Zervas was an Italophage. Pro-German? ridiculous!

  • There wer cams who fought with ELAS and chams who fought with whomever would protect them. Greece should be ashamed, no one is perfect, but the chams didnt deserve the massacre.

    Albanians have historically fought with greeks side by side just like the greek war of independence... Bocari, xhavella and others....and ALI PASHA was the the main sponsor of the resistance in the whole region against the turks. the Greek Right wing and the church are to blame for our hatred against each other

  • Those who were left the 20,000 chams muslims , were simply deported to eliminate once and for all muslims in greece and not because they colaborated with anyone...this is just propaganda. As if albanians have ever cared about religion....!The rest of the chams who were orthodox, just like their arvanit brothers were forcefully hellenizd.

    Lets cut the b.s.......the main reason was to eliminate what was left of the albanians in greece, by slaughtering and assimilating the christian ones.

  • @TR215 my friend chams were greeks by origin but they changed to muslims in 1600 and they were from then on filoturks...they used to be greeks before that but htey changed their heart...

  • @Sotos7Xania cams are arvanite muslim greeks. it was a dangerour for the greek history, thats why they killed and send them to albania, arvanites hold the greek history and folklore in there hands. it would be a shame for the greeks, if this al was linked to being albanians. because greek arvanite orthdox sa albanian as traitors. and wanted to be greek. greek muslim arvanites didnt hate albanians. so there was a link. thats why they where killed and send ot albania.

  • @agon1984 i know that...but some people insist cams are pure albanians

  • @Sotos7Xania if they aren't Albanians what are they then?

  • @KosovaChelseaTBA agon1984 just answered this question...thank you

  • @Sotos7Xania  "cams are arvanite muslim greeks" can somebody be more specific?

    Chams+Arvanites= Albanians+assimilated Albanians

    Aristidh Kola!!!!!!

  • my god the guy called the chams A GREEK POPULATION lol. this video does not tell the truth. It only tells what greeks want to hear.

    In 1923 hundrets of thousands of Albanians(cham, lab, n others) were deported simply because they were muslims. Even the autochtonus CHAM of EPIRI/CHAMERIA were deported because they were muslims, and hundreds of thousands of asia minor greeks were imported to balance the population between albanians and greeks.

  • c) On 27 July 1943, after the failed attack against the village of St. Kyriaki (Popovo), 800 Tsams of “K.S.I.L.I.A.” lead by Dino brothers and in collaboration with the Occupation armed forces, invaded the villages of Phanari. 519 houses were looted and burned down, 800 people were killed (from which 231 were women who were first raped), and 500 people were arrested and sent to Ioannina as hostages. The cattle’s breeding was totally destroyed. Almost 243 villages were depopulated.

  • Collaborating with the Germans, at that time, they spread fear and terrorism in the region, murdering, spoiling properties, double-crossing, raping, looting, invading and setting fire to houses and entire villages. From the long list of their criminal action, we mention the following:

    a) On 19 February 1942, the Prefect of Thesprotia Georgios Vasilakos was murdered.

    b) On 24 October 1942, priest Andreas Vassiliou (Papandreas) was executed in Kalteriza.

  • . Συγκεκριμένα, με την υπ΄αρ. 344/23-4-1945 απόφαση του Ειδικού Δικαστηρίου δοσιλόγων Ιωαννίνων και περί τις 1.700 σχετικές καταδικαστικές αποφάσεις ερήμην που επακολούθησαν καταδικάστηκαν ως εγκληματίες πολέμου, ενώ οι περιουσίες τους δημεύτηκαν (Β.Δ. 2185/1952 και Ν.27891/1954) και εκποιήθηκαν ή διανεμήθηκαν σε όλους, όσους έπεσαν θύματα της θηριωδίας τους. Παράλληλα, με την υπ΄αρ. Α.Π. 50862/1947 απόφαση του Υπουργείου Στρατιωτικών οι Τσάμηδες στερήθηκαν της ελληνικής ιθαγένειας.

  • , τον Σεπτέμβριο του 1944, αντιληφθέντες ότι θα λογοδοτούσαν στην Ελληνική Δικαιοσύνη, για την εν γένει εγκληματική και αντεθνική δράση τους, οι Τσάμηδες, μαζί με τους υποχωρούντες Γερμανούς που έχασαν τον πόλεμο, αποχωρούν για την Αλβανία οικειοθελώς περί τους 16.000-18.000.Τσάμηδων μεταφέρθηκε στην Αλβανία με Γερμανικά μεταφορικά μέσα, σύμφωνα με αναφορά Αμερικανού αξιωματικού. Στην Αλβανία, το καθεστώς του Εμβέρ Χότζα τους εγκατέστησε στην πεδιάδα της Μουζακιάς

  • @IllyrianArberore

    I know of no one bragging about Zervas the cham killing other chams...

  • Zervas clan were Souliote Chams, The people he chased out were guilty of killing anti-Italian partisans on both sides of the border and they were traitors to both Greece and Albania countries... There was no government the country was in anarchy, It was the British high command that ordered the EDES to do it! I condemn the killing of children and women that violates the Greek code of honnor,Those men in the EDES were out for blood because of the atrocities done to their loved ones.

  • @IllyrianArberore

    My opinion is that Tsamides, Sourdi and Pomaki should have returned to Turkey after the treaty of Sevres. We left noone there, why should they not return? They were a foreign element infused-a typical othoman practice. So why do you brag about them?

  • @BillyJimmyLee

    Treaty of Losane, sorry

  • They were given the opportunity to show their vicious hatred against Greece by the proclamation of the Greek-Italian War. they joined the Italian army organizing two Battalions of their own, and along with fifteen more Albanian Battalions consisting of 15.000 men, they entered Sagada and Filiates, as mercenary allies of the Italians. others who were serving in the Greek army– ”. After the lines had been broken down, the Italians handed over Thesprotia to the mercy of the Tsams.

  • FUCKK  CRECIAAAAAAAAA DIS

  • KETI NJERIU I DO SHUAR EMRI I DO GJETUR ESHTRAT DHE I DO BLUAR NE MULLI PER MASAKRAT QE KA BERE  FUUCCKK GRECCEEEEEE MOTRAT GREKVE RACES TE BASTARDUAR TE EVROPES KOMBI ME I SHKERDHYER QE MBAN TOKA MBI VETE

  • Κατά την αποχώρηση των κατακτητών, μετά από τετραετή κατοχή, ο Ζέρβας διεμήνυσε στους Τσάμηδες ότι: «Όσοι έχουν συνεργασθεί με τους κατακτητές και έχουν διαπράξει εγκλήματα εις βάρος των Ελλήνων, θα δικαστούν από έκτακτα Στρατοδικεία, τα οποία θα συγκροτηθούν επιτόπου και θα δικάσουν τους πραγματικούς εγκληματίες πολέμου Τσάμηδες». Εκείνοι φοβήθηκαν τυχόν αντίποινα και απεχώρησαν μόνοι τους στην Αλβανία. Έτσι μαζί με τους ενόχους έφυγαν και οι μη ένοχοι.

  • Εναντίον των κατακτητών και των Τσάμηδων αντιστάθηκαν οι Αντάρτες του ΕΔΕΣ υπό τον Ναπ. Ζέρβα. Οι Αντάρτες του ΕΛΑΣ ανέχονταν τη δράση τους και σε μερικές περιπτώσεις συνεργάστηκαν με τους κομμουνιστές Τσάμηδες. Σήμερα βέβαια κανείς δε δέχεται τις διεκδικήσεις των Τσάμηδων.

  • YOU ARE ALL GAY , LIKE ZERVA BLACK GREEKS.

    I FUCK ALL YOU GYPSYS RACE.

    FUCK GREECE

  • an exete arxidia elate na tin parete.alla elate na tin parete monoi sas (xwris tin voh8eia twn tourkwn kai amerikanwn ktlp).alla ksexasa eseis to paizete magkes mono an exete tis plates allwn,alliws ka8este sta avga sas.zwntano paradeigma to kosovo pou an den sas voh8agan oi amerikano-natoikoi oi Servoi 8a sas gamagan akoma.Leuteria stin Boreia Hpeiro

  • propaganda thats all!!!!! now you calling them greeks when for nearly 100 years calling them turko albanians lol

  • albanian sluts, killing their greek neighbours and running away like chickens when it turned sour for them... but ok i is usual business for you... weak people...

  • Πουστράκια αλβανακια,μια ζωή θα σας ΓΑΜΑΜΕ, ητε σας αρεση ητε όχι , εμείς θα είμαστε εκεί να σας ΓΑΜΑΜΕ,και όχι μόνο εσάς αλλά και τα πουστρακια τους φίλους σας τους μογκολους,ΠΟΥΣΤΡΑΚΙΑΑΑΑΑΑΑΑ Αλβανακια !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • zervas hope you soul burn in hell

    and the thing can be good only if chams go thay homes back

  • @albanians2unite ... the Chams were living in Greece and they collaborated with the Germans and the SS against the Greek people. You Albanians need to learn some fucking history and stop embarrasing yourselves. The Chams wanted a piece of Epirus and lobbied the Italians for a separate state while Greece was being raped by the Germans. That is how you repay the country which took you in, by betraying Greece. The Chams LEFT Greece by themselves because they knew there would be reprisals.

  • @albanians2unite FUCK UR albania SON OF WHORE

  • @unfukkkmee youre everywere you motherfucking gypsie gay greek fucking faggot

  • @ProducionFuckGayrek dDIE ANALbanian BITCH DRUG DEALER DOGFACE FUCK UR MOTHER ASS ALBO FIRE IN TIRANA SICKEST BRAINS SPERMS ARABS PERSIANS AND ottomans

  • Dita po Afron

  • You give me money when you fucking, because your "man" are all gay.

    All the world know for the greeks are pederast and unfaithful.

    Freedom for south Epirus

    Long Live CHAMERIA

    Long Live the etnik ALBANIA

  • FREEDOM TO NORTHERN EPIRUS! ΛΕΥΤΕΡΙΑ ΣΤΗ ΒΟΡΕΙΟ ΗΠΕΙΡΟ!!!

    FUCK ALBANIANS!!!

    ΜΑΒΗ

  • @ntelosNI πες τα ΑΔΕΡΦΕ!!!!!!!! γαμω την αλβανια και ολους τους κολοαλβανους του κοσμου!!!!! ΠΟΥΤΑΝΕΣ αλβανοι ΕΡΧΕΤΑΙ Η ΜΑΒΗ!!!!!!!!!

  • @filaqoticam bla bla gay greece this is getting very boring. Any new hate word for Greece ???

    1 million Albanians in Greece that hate Greece. Amazing !!!

    FYI the other one was gay for sure, Aris velouxiotis not Zervas

  • @NefeliDanai YOU ARE LIAR AND FABRICATIONS . I HATE THE GREECE AND THE GREEKS Because you have spirit animals . YOU have painted hands with ALBANIAN blood .I FUCK ALL YOU

  • @filaqoticam WE THE GREEKS FUCK YOUR MOTHER,ALBANIEN BASTARD!!!!!!!!

  • @johnpap1970 You fuck????????? ha ha ha you are all gay bitch greece. Go to trafic lights gypsys(gay) greek. I fuck you all gaygreece

  • @johnpap1970 FUCK YOU MOTHER FUCK YOU FATHER FUCK YOU BROTHER FUCK YOU SISTER FUCK GRANDFATHER ( GAY) FUCK GRANDMOTHER (BITCH) FUCK ALL CRISTIANS OF GREECE FUCK ALL YOU GAY GREECE.........FUCK GYPSYS GREECE , BUT ESPECIALLY FUCK YOU AND YOUR TRIBE IDIOT BITCH DEAD OR LIVE ALWAYS FUCK YOU BITCH johnpap1970 SHUT UP BITCH......GO TO TRAFIC LIGHTS, GET YOUR MOM,FATHER,SISTER AND MOUVE YOURS ASS.GO MAKE PIPA GAY GREEKS STOP NOW.......GO AND WORK , THIS IS YOUR JOB. JUST THE JOB FOR THE GAY GREEKS.
  • @filaqoticam .... you are the most boring poster on Youtube, the only words you know is bitch and fuck and gay....oh yeah and traffic lights .... what a fucking hero you are....stupid idiot....haha.

  • @PChord1 You Forgot to say these words I dedicate only the Greeks.

    GREEK'S ARE ALL UNFAITHFUL AND GAY.

    YOU ARE THOSE KIND RACE WHERE HAS MEN MORE BITCHES THAN WOMEN

    fuck all you gay greeks

    fuck all you gay people

  • Etsi etsi...gamish stous tsamides....siga mhn prolaban na gurisoun albania...2 nyxtes esfaze o zerbas....kai osoi prolaban prolaban....gia auto milane oi tsamides gia sfagh....allo th leme emeis.Mia zwh malakes autoi oi albanoi.Panta ta koroida ths istorias...Theloun kai tsamouria.H apeleutherwsh ths boreia hpeirou einai konta gamw th guftia sas...

  • Please use a proper language otherwise I will delete the rude comments. I don't argue that Zervas Velouxiotis or whatever were saints. It is a documentary that seems close to the truth. If you think otherwise please provide the evidence.

  • Oi plousies dhrasis tou einai fenete xrisimes ......dhen ntrepese malaka stirisis dollofono ,to katallabenis afto ?? O politismos sou pou einai ?

  • ΤΣΑΜΟΥΡΑΚΙΑ ,ΓΥΦΤΟΤΟΥΡΚΑΛΒΑΝΟΙ  ΔΕΝ ΥΠΑΡΧΕΤΕ.ΣΑΣ ΞΕΡΑΣΕ Η ΙΣΤΟΡΙΑ.... ΜΕΓΑΛΗ ΕΛΛΑΣ...

  • YOU are inventing and not trust

  • --These video shows what Lord Byron has said for Greeks :

    ----------- ".....Greeks Life is a Struggle against the TRUTH,..."------Period.

  • people who want to really know what happened must read the excellent book "Cham muslims of Epirus" from Eleftheria Manta.

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  • Τι ειρωνια να βαζεις να μιλανε αριστεροι για δεξιους...ντροπη στα βρομοκαναλα σας.

  • 5*****

  • @psilkakos YOU ARE ALL GAY , LIKE NAPOLEON ZERVA.

    I FUCK YOU ALL GAY & BITCH GREECE

  • The philosophy of EAM was always dominate or destroy- never to trust any agreements with Andartes

  • We don't need albanians in Greece.

    We must throw them out from our holy land.Let them go to Turkey....If they dare

  • ASPETOSI come and get the 1000000 immigrants who lives in Greece right now.

    you are brreaking the low and the history of balkans..shut the fuck up!

  • i aristera i idia katalave oti ekane eglima....giayto diaspastike....

    ti na leme twra ta skoylikia tis ellados

  • --------Greek propaganda is Ridiculous---and shows --what kind of Low life people are Greeks ----U are disgusting in the way u justify Ur Crimes

    ---U killed Albanian chams , who lived in North of Greece

    cuze the british were playing feetsy with U ,WORMS OF BALLKANS, Allowing u to commit crimes against Unarmed population

  • 5*****

  • Δεν ξέρω γιατί ο Ζέρβας είναι τόσο στην άκρη. Τι ήθελε να πετύχει η αριστερά τότε;;; Ποιές οι κρυφές επιδιώξεις της;;; Υπάρχει ένα βιβλίο με τίτλο " ΣΥΝΤΡΟΦΟΙ ΕΥΤΥΧΩΣ ΑΠΟΤΥΧΑΜΕ" ... διβαστε το σύντροφοι. Όχι άλλη παραχάραξη της ιστορίας από σας.

  • ΘΑ ΠΝΙΓΕΙΤΑΙ ΣΤΟ ΚΑΛΑΜΑ.!!!

    ΑΝ ΚΟΝΤΑΤΕ Σ ΕΠΕΡΙΜΕΝΟΥΜΕ Η ΘΕΣΠΡΩΤΙΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ !!!

  • Cameria.. tired with this kind of language (fuck gay etc )

    , can you read some history and make a comment.

    The video is full of facts either we like it or not.

  • ante na zisoyn oi zerveoi

  • ave zerva!!!!!!true hero

  • nefelidanai eisai koukla!!!

  • Αλβανοτσαμιδες , τα 'ξαδελφακια' των γερμανοτσολιαδων

  • Your name is correct:Dardan....

    It reminds to all Greeks how much greek names you have....

  • Macedonia is an ancient greece territory,a holy piece of land that always was greek.Where were the slavs who are living today in this area 2000 years B.C?They simply did not exist!!!!

  • No one will ever hurt our holy Nation!!!

    Everyone wants to be Greek!!

    FYROM Albania and all the muslim bastards!!!!God will never leave us unprotected!!Cause we are Greeks!!Sons of Heroes!!!

  • But...Macedonians will come,to take back their land...and make free from the greek occupation!

    God forgives VMRO never!

  • actually God forgives , Chuck Norris never

    but nevermind :)

  • @CAKIMacedonian Sweet dreams.....

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  • You see?600 Greeks,while the murdered Albanians where about 3000-10000.....Notice,Tsamides did not steal land from Epirus,the land they had,belonged to them LEGALLY....It is not a lesson,it is murdering,little children,women,old men,ok?

  • Zerbas has killed Albanians because they wanted to take a piece of northern Greece.

  • Wow,great way of thinking,yes sure,kill all the innocent Albanina women,young babies,old men,because no more than 400 greeks were killed,yes ,4 sure,kill 10.000 albanians while the greeks killed were less than 1/10 of the albanians killed,good job fascist

  • Εάν δεν ήταν ο Ζέρβας μας,οι Τσάμηδες συνεργαζόμενοι με τουε γερμανούς και τα κομμούνια,θα έπαιρναν την Ηπειρο.

  • It is true Illyrians attacked epirus and southern greece,that is why there was a time those areas were illyrians,nothing can be for sure though.Some surveys show epirus has illyrian origin,and others greek.If we cannot talk for sure,better let s shut up

  • Thucydedes and Strabo said that Epirotans were barbarians but never mentioned Illyrians...But Pausanias Dionisus of Halicarnasus discribe them as Greeks their Northwestern Greek dialect as some historic facts show the true origin of Epites wich is Greek....

  • Yes,I agree with you Jeffanos...I believe that it is most likely for Epirus to be Greek in the past,but most of the Slavic territories(...From F.Y.R.O.M. to Bosnia-Herzegovina) used to be Albanian territory before the Slavs came....

  • I can't understand why Greeks and Albanians hate each other..I mean we have more thing in common than we know....Firstly we belong to the same Indoeuropean Origin...(Greeks Illyrians Thracians and Armenians same group) which means we r relatives in many ways....

  • Where does your proffessor find the facts that epirotans were greek? There was not even Greece at those times !!! Just helenic peoples but epirotans were not hellenic. They were largely illyrians.

  • Herodotus mentioned first the Molosians the Greek dynasty who ruled Epirus all these years...Plutarch also sais clearly that Epirotans were a mix of Dorians and Aiolians Strabo said that the Greek kingdoms of Macedonia Lyngistia and Paionia were bordered to the west the molosian Greek tribes of Epirus....

  • I red those things in Ancient prototype.... When the Greek Sicilians of Taras sended an Embassy in Epirus they mentioned that Greeks must suport each other that's why Pyrrhus departed to Sicilly

  • Illyrians setled North to Epirus that's why they Invaded plenty of times in Epirus and sucked cities..When King Phillip of Macedon coronated his first task was to help her wife's relatives in Epirus and Destroyed Dardanian Ilyrians od Vardyly...

  • And to be perfectly honest didn't know that Albanians could be so desinformed about Ancient antiquity... In West as i said before nobody even dabades the Greeknes of Epirus........

  • Seems you have still a lot to learn. But ask your proffessor of Antiquity 3 simple questions:

    1. Why was Phyrros sent at king of Illyrians (Albania North) when he was just 2 yrs old so that his father's opponents could not kill him? Why didn't they send him for protection in Athens, Sparta or whatever greek cities?

    2. Why did Alexander the Great seek refuge twice in the same area of Illyria, when he quarrelled with his father?

    3. Why Alexander and Phyrros never attacked those areas?

  • Firstly Illyrians atacked twice in the first time Phillip slaughtered the king of Dardanian Illyrians Vardylys in modern day eastern Albania....And the second was when Alexander coronated and Illyrians revolted Alexander slaghtered them once more.....

  • Pyrhhos was sent to Illyrians so he couldn't get killed by his uncle but then he was sent to the Greek Ptolemaic Empire in Egypt to his relatives that's what say Polybius to his relatives in Ptolemeans.....

  • Alexander and his mother seek refuge in Epirus not Illyria to his mother's Brother Alexander...... And we see Greek language to Epirotan sriptures to their shields to their tombs Greek everywhere.....

  • yes, and most of em say that they were barbarians and were not greek. example Moloset ( tribe of alexander the greats mother, and Pirro)... u think they were greek?? cmon man, theres plenty of other geographers that specify where hellas ends and its way down there, not where u guys draw the line today

  • I don't know where u have read those things but surely not from the anients... I study Ancient Antiquity in Brighton University in UK and nobady even dabades the fact that Epirotans were Greeks.. My professor Mr Atkins made a good paperwork about Pyrrhus and Molosians.. Great work really in modern historycal society....

  • But, honest to god, theres a lot of things that u guys dont want to see the way that they actually are, but u see them the way ur taught to see them, and im not blaming ur religion for it, but who im blaming is those hudge bearded clergy of urs that always worked against albanians. u guys were supposed to get our backs in 1912 like we did in 1823, instead it was a free for all when the ottoman empire fell back, and u serbia(including fyrom) and montenegro got around 20% of alb lands each.

  • All Europe is mixed up and even if some of modern Greeks have Albanian blood doesn't mean anything simple cause some Albanians might have some Slavic or Celtic blood.....

  • always there my friend, what u failed to mention is that the albanians are the ones that survived, i guess we got our rugged terrain and mountains to thank for that.

    Cameria was conquered by greece in 1912, it was never a part of greece before, nothin about it is greek. no one is sayin greece didnt exist, im not calling u monkeys from ethiopia, BUT what im sayin is that Cameria = 100% albanian. always ruled by albanians, always under albanians. even when roman empire split into east and west

  • Wrong read everywhere about the Greek kingdom of Epirus they were a mixture of Greek tribes and ruled by Molosians Illyrians weren't in Epirus they were in nothern lands God haven't u read ancient historians Herodotus Polybius Plutarch...

  • why do u think Fan Noli worked his whole life to split up the greek and albanian orthodox church(which he did, and church is in Boston) .....???

    cause he seen the agenda behind the greek orthodox clergy, and bro london times 1878 says it better than me anyway, check the archives... now plz, dont try blinding ppl with ur religious driven propaganda cause we dont fall for that shit.

  • U need more things than a religion for one country to created.. Not all Greeks might be straight descends of the Ancient Greeks but gice me a break...Neither Albanians are clean Illyrians, Celts,Goths,Slavs,Vandals are few of tribes who setled Albania during centuries...

  • religion, since religion has always been used as a tool by our neighbors to split up our people instead of uniting them. He truly was a piece of shit, nothin more than a yougoslavian puppet, but none the less, abolishment of religoins was great.

    theres no such thing as epirotan greeks, either ur albanian(çam, lab) or GREEK(no buts, no ifs, no in between)

    ur orthodox church has been tryin to brainwash those orthodox albanians for centuries now, and everyone is well aware of this...

  • Another extra nationalistic idea my friend.... I mean do u actually bealive Greece was just an 19th century invention?? Lol plus Orthodox priests created the whole situation??

  • u still dont seem to be able to grasp the concept in discussion, and the position of albanians, therefore beein able to see things as an albanian when it comes to our land and our people.

    Sknederbeus books, most were based on outside sources, like the vatican records etc...

    skenderbeus story is not made up, its a fact, and most books written about him are from non-albanians.

    as far as enver hoxha is concerned, yes he was a piece of shit, but he did do 1 good thing, that was outlawing .....

  • I never said Skanderberg didn't exist....

  • Even wiki has an article for Greeks in Albania search Greek minority in Albania....

  • lets also not forgoet the highlands of Shkodra which are on the other side of the boarder(montenegro) a region basically unconquerable by the turks which basically is Tuz with villages regions around it which make up Hot Grud Kelmend.... like i said grab a book, and ur eyes will open....

  • For once more no good points... Firstly Enver Hotza tryed to withdraw religion from Albanians by forbiding them to bealive in something.. He also tried to increase Albanian national consiense by writing books for Skanderberg and other Albanian heroes...

  • And Orthodox populations in Nothern Epirus have clearly Greek national consious. This can be proved by the eforts they made by creating Greek partizan teams in 1914 after the negotiational failure with the Great Powers to convert Nothern Epirus to a Greek region...

  • There are still sites from Nothern Epirotans in Greek search it in Google.... A lot of Greek cultural Organizations have been created by Nothern Epirotans who has their basis in southern Albania...

  • and a portion of montenegro wich uncleds Ulqin with regions around it like Kraj Ana Malit, Plav Guci, frruck, even podgorica was albanian till a few years ago.... so my friend grab a few history books, and read...

  • 20-30% of the albnaians that beong to the orthodox faith doesnt mean that they're a greek minority in albania, just remeber that.

    just another tactic used by the orthodox church to claim more lands in 1912, but hopefully they failed into gettin anymore than they already had

    bro truth is out there already, weather u and ur fellow countrymen(women) like it or not, çameria = 100% albanian, just like kosova, just like haf of FYROM(yes Shkupi albanian city, shkup was the capital of kosova)

  • im from kosova my friend, plus i was a very little kid, a few years old during those times, therefore communism had little to no effect at all.

    if albanians were nationalistic, then the orthodox would claim they're greek, catholics latin and muslims turkish supposedly...

    so my friend, if it wasnt for our nationalism(a strong sense of it starting in albania way before Enver Hoxha was ever born)

    read some historial documents my friend. theres no greek minority in albania, maybe 2-3%

  • lol... yes i could see how my name is an inslut (valdrillurgirl)

    but honestly i could care less what it means in any other language, since its 100% albanian

    val= wave

    drin = river Drin(i)(northern albania, aka kosova) so valdrin = wave of drin

    but honestly, 1 question... whats up with all this hate towards albanians? and dont give me that shit oo they came to greece and robbed and stole things... seriously where is this hate stemming from??? i know, but do u, and do u know the reasons why?

  • Hahaha u represent the curent situation as we don't do anything else all day but hate u insult u and descriminate u.... We don't give a flying f.... for a bunch of peasant immigrants my friend...

  • Listen to me some events here dope Greeks against u such as the burning of Greek flag in OAKA stadium in our national teams football game u r very provocative as people and the combination of rapes stealings and drug sellings yeah give u a very bad reputation....

  • And u hate us u started everything with your atitude against us.... When our borders open your hate started to apear.... Your atitude is extremely anoying simply cause your former comunist goverment propagate against us as a newly born balkan nation your nationalism was at high levels which means provocative acts as i mentioned before.....

  • very sad people and nation ROFL...

    what else u guys gonna try faking?? last time it was the financial and economic documents so u guys could join EU, what else is next???

  • Lol ok whatever dude say what u want i won't pay attention to a desparate ultra nationalist Albo any longer even your name is an isult in some country vocabulary so......

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  • u greeks are very good at propaganda u find an exuse to kill thousend of cams but dont worry will hunt u back somehow the same happen to the serbs

  • right right.... lol

  • Yeah the fact that Greece mixed ethnically groups in Byzantine and Ottoman times deosn't mean that culturally is mixed.... Ethnical groups don't mean a lot simply cause they embrace ancient Greek ideals and Orthodox faith... Go tell to an Epirot that he is Albanian he will propably punch u....

  • jeffanos, you write : Go tell to an Epirot that he is Albanian he will propably punch u.... = my dear greek friend, I am an Epirot and I am albanian :).

  • If u leave in North Epirus u r propably an Albanian..... But i was talking about the Epirotans who use the term Epirot and Epirus and this is widely used in Greece....

  • And don't forget the Greek minority of Nothern Epirus......

  • And read some encuclopedia ancient Kingdom of Epirus was inhubited by Dorians and Aeolians and ruled byt the Greek dynasty of Molosians who claimed descendancy from Hercules....

  • Did u know that the name Albanian is widely used here as an isult? If some Greek cals other Greek Albanian is like calling him Malaka..... Lol u r as miserable as a poor Balkan nation as yours was expected to be so your ultranationalism is natural. HHAHAHAHA u made me laugh again....

  • ROFL... imma go kill myself... u made me so sad....

    rofl such a word shouldnt even be allowed to be spoken by short dark little gypsies