No Science - No Cure

[anonymous4223]

More than Scientology, that's for sure.

[Ndz3415]

Meds are useful but should be considered a crutch that is used to help the person cope as they actively make changes to their lifestyle. Meds should not be taken to "fix" the person. Psychology is very valid when used to help a person identify what parts of their life are causing them problems and advise how to change them. Unfortunately greed has taken over the field and meds are being pushed when they actually should be used very minimally. Lifestyle changes should be the ultimate goal.

[SFJane]

I have watched dozens of these Scientology propaganda videos and come to some conclusions. We may not like the messenger/advocate, i.e. an contrived religion created by a science fiction author. Volcanoes and Zenu are a bit much for a rational person. But the message is sound. Psychiatry has got to go, it creates more problems than it solves. No one has been cured of mental illness because of psychiatry, its a failed science.

[sebkarlsson]

Thank you!! Exactly my point. Although as a Scientologist I can safely say that all the Zenu and volcano stuff is a lie and not part of Scn. at all - but that's another subject altogether.

[Lithys]

spelled xenu. or xemu hard to tell, hubbard did not have the greatest handwriting.

[anonymous4223]

Wrong.

[Lithys]

lol how so am i wrong, my good sir

[anonymous4223]

Sorry, that was meant for the tard above you.  :-D

[FaustusTheAwesome]

Yes, I'm not a scientologist but I do know that Psychiatry is the act of diagnosing a theoretical condition. Not a good idea.

[tomazzin]

This is:

Before you consider taking a drug, consider changing the environmental factors that are leading you to that option.

[PamFuller]

Very eye opening information! thanks for making this viewable online. Everyone needs this data!

[willstroo]

Too often in our society, people are looking for the "easy fix", preferring to pop pills rather than cure the underlying cause of the problem. Im talking about everything from weightloss pilss to anti-psychotics.

Psychiatry itself is a farce, made by people who are only interested in money. If they arent curing anyone, then it can only be about control and money. SICK BASTARDS!!

[ichbinkeinberliner]

It is not about control and money. Psychiatry and psychiatric medications help people lead better lives. This video is stupid.

[cyndigerl]

What an eye-opener! It's hard to believe that the public has been fooled for so long. I just hope this information gets out broadly enough to reach everyone under treatment by pyschiatry.

[sebkarlsson]

Yet my beliefs are built of more fact than yours. I'm not usually one for generalisations..but if even your patients have called you worse... you give them the correct treatment and they should act differently.

But I am sure you are right, neither of us will give up our beliefs.

[sebkarlsson]

If you are not a psych - I am not getting into this discussion about things that you don't have a clue about. Mania is a description of a person's mental symptoms and can't be diagnosed like cancer with a concrete test. It can only be determined by people's opinions based on tests by people who have done the same. It's a field of assumptions that do not provide the solutions that they promised or pretend to achieve.

I suggest you watch the other clips about psychiatry on this site.

[ngogol]

Actually, I've watched them all. Like Tom Cruise said, "I HAVE studied the history of Psychiatry". Don't worry about the discussion; neither of us is likely to give up our beliefs for or against Psychiatry.

(I've been called far worse things than a "cock-up" by my patients, so no feelings hurt here...)

[sebkarlsson]

If you are a psych - fuck off, you are a professional cock-up and help others to become vegetable cock-ups.

[sebkarlsson]

there is no debate going on my friend - I am not even here actually. You are scysophrenic.

[sebkarlsson]

May not be a conspiracy, but I have seen psychiatrists say that there are medical and blood tests that prove bipolarity, etc., which is simply not true and misleads people into thinking they have a made up disease for which they are then prescribed mind-altering drugs.

[ngogol]

Exactly....people are misled to believe we make up diseases, just so we can use our powers of mind-control. You really need to see a manic peson up close to understand how crippling this illness can be.

No blood tests to prove bipolar disorder, but we use tests to rule out strett drug-induced mania, hyperthyroidism, brain tumors, etc, which would be devastating if we missed them.

Thanks for the response...I appreciate healthy debate over watching sound bytes being misused to create a scare.

[ngogol]

It's farcical how heavily edited this clip is. The psychiatrists in this video were misled by the filmmakers, who posed as neuroscience graduate students doing a research project, in order to obtain material for the interview. Nothing that the psychiatrists have said is concealed knowledge; any one of them would say the same thing to their patients. The 'antipsychiatrists' are looking for a conspiracy where one clearly does not exist.