U change the cycle of life and we change the outcome for every living thing. No, I don't want slaughter but I don't want dead horses laying in some barn starved and you can't see them so it don't bother you. I want that picture in your head bothering you until you begin getting the reason why slaughter was there to begin with. read all my posts in order. Put your money out there, help horses out for real or shut your pie-hole. God bless.
Now there are horses suffering from Hepatitis from people committing unspeakable acts with horses. Now we have horses suffering from blood-disorders, genetic problems, neurological problems. Where are all the bodies gonna be buried in the USofA? Just curious. The dead need buried, the bodies are hauled off by the state u live in to be burned up. Make you feel better about no slaughter knowing they are malnurished, people that have money are losing jobs,-it's not breeders, u change the cycle
people are the killers. A guy has three hungry horses and another guy down the road said ill keep the hay till middle of winter youll pay more then. We gave him hay to help him. There are no slaughter houses so people are being ripped off and the animals suffer. by the way the guy selling hay-he owns no animals so he cares only for money. You stopped the slaughter, so now thousands of animals lay suffering and dying because a hay-seller wants to buy a shiny new truck to impress you all
Forty years and three generations of horsepeople in our family and we saw this one coming. For the idiot with the back yard breeder comment. Sit your ass down and shut up. Horses require money, FOOD, and care. Vet,farrier,etc. Been our expirience that young people who dispose of anything or dont take care of it are at the heart of the problem. You look at craigslist-people are begging for hay. Hay dealers are charging more now than ever in history. You can't pay you don't get any-those
"Lame" "Old" "Useless" Hello these horses are no different then you and I. Ok then "dealer" when you grow old lets shoot you in the head and hope you die then skin you and sell your meat. These people have probably NEVER seen inside a slaughter house and if they have that's just sad. Half these people DISGUIST me when they go and say "old and useless" "what are we going to do with them". YOU DIE when your either too old or sick. Not by getting shot in the head and hoping that the animal dies.
But I think the people who slaughter them should wait until they at least see if the horses are sold to a good home and then have an auction afterwards for the horses who werent sold.
humane slaughter is okay, cruel slaughter is not. no reason for horses to travel so far, they need to regulate it so animals are not mistreated. there should be a slaughter housewithin 500 miles so horses don't have to spend days in a trailer becoming exhausted and hungry. why are people against horse slaughter when cows and pigs suffer the same treatment? that is hypocritcal and let these same take in the horses and care for them. practice what you preach.
@TheRosa63 I agree with you. But I'm against all animals being slaughtered. I'm a vegetarian just because we used to have a pet chicken and I was eating chicken and when I looked at her, I couldn't stand thinking I was eating something that beautiful.
fucking retards in canada thier are to many and no where for them to go my granmpa was a breeder for his whole life and just retired sold the farm and the track he made a living of that know you can't if I bought him out I'd be fucked. in canada you where able to make a living of breeding and grouming not any more. my grampa used to hunt of horse back when he was my age he could afford it. it's 2010 and it's cheaper to buy a 4wheeler and hunt from it than a horse? thats wrong.
Well Mr.wayne pacelle since we don't eat dogs and cats and in my case we don't eat horses what is the real plan? Many people can't have horses anymore so where do you thing all of this animals are going to end up? you guys shut down the slaughter houses, now you are crying because they have to go to Canada and Mexico. I don't think you can see the reality of the situation that all of u have created, and it was not for the good of the horses.
i hate the thought of horses being slaughtered, but i don't want them to starve. so i think i would be ok with it if it was humane and not stressful like the video showed
@haramacad WHAT"S THE BIG DEAL WHAT"S THE BIG DEAL???I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THE BIG DEAL IS!!!!!!IT'S THAT HORSES DON'T DESERVE THIS I F THEY DON'T GET SOLD IN AN AUCTION THEY WHAT IF THAT HAPPEND TO YOU!?!?NOW IT'S A BIG DEAL EH?
@dancer32940 listen what can they do how manny horses do you have
in the wild you say we have to reduce their number second when it is series injury the veterinary will kill it so this people need money and they love horses if was not those men there were no horses left because they breed it if they have no interest so u know what is next but the trues is it is for the seck of horses . imagine that world with out horsemeat i will not be happy so please stop saying such a thing .
The main problem is when idiotic people mistakenly believe they can afford this.
It takes a tremendous amount of resources to properly care for a horse,and some people aren't doing these horses any favors by keeping them,only to allow them to starve and go into a severe state of neglect when they suddenly discover that a horse was far beyond what they could sensibly afford.
Horse slaughter should be humane. Preventing people from eating horse is retarded. I've ate it before and its good. There is simply no legitimate reason not to slaughter horses for meat.
The only popular meat that has a legitimate right not to be eaten is pig, if you argue with this then you're an idiot PERIOD, because pigs are filthy and cause so much disease and damage to land.
well my view in horse slaughter is well it has to be done but not so cruely, i am the biggest horse lover ever, but horse slaughter is cruel the way they are killed and then eaten, its not right. It wouldnt be so bad if they were "HUMANELY" killed and not eaten for food in other sick countries.
well my view in horse slaughter is well it has to be done but not so cruely, i am the biggest horse lover ever, but horse slaughter is cruel the way they are killed and then eaten, its not right. It wouldnt be so bad if they were "HUMANELY" killed and not eaten for food in other sick countries.
what the fuck....................... will you eat your dog or cat that gave you love will you eat a nothere persone because he is starving or will you help him and give some food
people want an easy disposal for horses they FUCK up!? People shouldnt get an easy pass to throw life away!! TAKE CARE OF YOUR HORSES!!! and they wouldnt be lame and blind and "useless" until they were old, an then, heres an idea, EUTHANIZE them like a dog or cat. Cheap slimey bastards. And they don't just slaughter OLD horses, I've sen trucks full of WEANLINGS go off... Quit trying to justify cruelty, people. If you are to cowardly to face the facts, then don't make up new ones to feel better!
Until people massively reduce breeding (racing/backyard profiteers etc) basically there has to be a system of disposal and the best is humane slaughter.Thanks to PETA ranting and raving they have increased horses suffering instead of reducing it. But haven't they become so quiet on the issue having gotten their way and continue to rake in donations. Not a mention about the future consequeses of their actions. They got their way so screw you, jack.
satanmasta you have problems... why would you eat them? there fun, and loving.. if you just use them for work you need to look deeper and see how fun they are to ride around and get to know, every horse has a different personality if you get to know it well enough.. Go PETA!
I 100% agree. id rather see a horse killed then starved and once the slaughtering industry comes to its end, the fate of the horses with no future will be shocking, and we'll see more horses suffering in the long term. i agree those who cant afford horses shouldnt buy them. but sometimes its the horse that slowly drains the money a person once had. so if you want a horse, be very careful about your decision
4;58 wayne, you kill millions of dogs a year, i hear horse meat is better than elk, fuck you ara's i'll probably never get to eat me some horse meat now dammmmmmmmmm YOU peta, lol
If the US slaughter houses would just agree to HUMANELY transport and euthanize horses, I think we could re-open slaughter houses and avoid having horses left to fend for themselves or starved which is much worse than being "knocked out" with a shot.
It's all on opinion.. But with me I say it's like eating your dog or cat.. And for the guy in 6:07 having a horse is your responsabilty and you baught the horse, you should know how expensive they are ! :(
I, for one, don't understand the Humane Society CEO at all. I mean, where's he going to put all the horses? Who do you suppose is going to take care of all the horses if keeping them leads to a financial dead end?
I see alot of whining about capitalism here. if you dont like slaughtering, put your money where your mouth is, buy one. if you dont, dont bitch about it.
Shut up scipio2009. You talk like you own the argument. I hope you never become as dispensible as those poor horses, victims of a cruel world market-place where greed and profit margins reign supreme...
It is far more cruel to starve an animal than to kill it quickly. If you want to save the animals buy them yourself and pay to feed them and care for them. Farmers have a hard time of things already. don't make it worse.
the main problem is there are toooo many back yard breeders. Anyone who has a mare feels like they have to have her bred and so ther the problem starts. they find they cant take care of all of them and so sell them and this is where they end up. :(
no it is the stigma against eating horse, if you raise something, then raise something you can eat, if times get to hard for you to fend for it, I can't wait till these citybred crybabies get hungry enough to eat their precious shithounds, lol, you are right though the other day i seen an ole boy breed a club footed stud just cause he had good papers, what is good papers?
Honestly, what would people, like the Humane Society, suggest they fo instead?
The auctioneer makes an excellent point, that after the horses are no longer of use to them, they must be removed somehow.
If the Humane Society was so hell-bent on protecting these horses, deemed unfit, why don't they offer to purchase the horses from these dealers, and then doing whatever thing they believe to be better?
The humane society needs to start understanding that it is no more cruel to kill a horse than a chicken or cow. If those people want to eat horse, then let them. It is better to kill the horses and use them than send them out to starve. They are so far removed from reality.
Why dont we slaughter humans,we are over populated and sometimes worthless,first start with nuking Iran then russia,north korea and china,humans are scum and i hope the earth blows the fuck up how worthless!
Instead of arbitrarily going after Iran, Russia, North Korea and China, since all humans are scum, why don't we just start in YOUR hometown with YOUR family.
Why don't we just start with blowing up all the homes of people in your extended family.
Since, all humans are scum, I expect you to be in that first house.
fuck these hippie vegatarians. I am a horse lover but understand the reality of it all. Whoever has the price gets the damn horse. If they're broken down and blind, don't make them go through any more pain. Don't just let them rot in the ground: at least feed someone and pass on life. It really is the circle of life, guys!
Humane Society =Big business .Money maker an no they dont ship the cats an dogs off for meat they put them down becuase theres not enough people wanting them whats the differance
These pea-brain activists have no regard for the Business and so of course the horse traders won't work with them. They want these people's livelihood abolished. I can't believe how stupid Liberals are. It is a mental disorder.
Sad to put them through the trip. The horses are one of the various types of cattle that need to be humanely euthanized, Done Locally, with the profits going to the local economy. It ends up right back in the US in glue, dogfood etc... Very STUPID Humane Society, Putting the horses through that grueling trip.
The fossil record shows that they have a different evolutionary past than the bovids (cows, deers, buffalo, etc.) and are thus classified as equids, their own family.
If you're so up in arms about it, throw in some money, to protecting the helpless horses from the "mostly poor and greedy farmers".
It all makes sense, if you hold to your convictions.
But of course, you're a hypocryt, condemning their behaviour without supporting the behaviour you want them to pick up, so this conversation becomes a waste.
why dont the horse lovers bitch about it when we kill cows for meat? same thing with the whale / dolphin lovers, they dont say ANYTHING about the millions of pounds of tuna that we eat and kill each year, they dont even know what they are bitching about, they are just complaining to complain.
For one, humans and animals share two different levels in the world's society. As much as HS and PETA want to deny it, they are just as guilty in this as the horse-steak eating rancher.
Secondly, the cost of caring for humans, to carry for an animal, is weighted differently in our societry.
If someone were to propose that all "inelligibles" were to be terminated, to improve the effieciency of the world at large, people would be up in arms, far more.
Humanizing animals is always culturally coloured. In western societies cats, dogs and horses are considered as a taboo to be exploited for food. E.g. Beefburgers are eaten, not so in Hindu culture, there pork is common, what is unthinkeable in muslim culture. Chinese love dog and catmeat, and so on.
which brings me to the difference in cultures. I have no desire to amalgamate with, and will fight against any culture that heartily offends my basic beliefs. Humanitarianism is - not exclusively - fundamentally a Christian principle. Barbarians should stay in their own countries.
If you can come up with a solution to the root problem, finding a way to dispose of horses deemed unfit for work, bring it forth, tell your congressman, and try to draw attention to the solution.
Sitting back and just calling everyone evil does nothing to fix the problem.
Stond whining, and try being part of the solution for once.
But, i don't understand one thing. if they have so many horses in a place,why not send a handfull to other countries who could use them?
It's alright to put down the very sick and very old horses. But, why slaughter such beautiful animals when they can be of use? There are children and people in the world who would love to have one of those horses :)
Im sure they won't mind shipping them to other countries, but who's going to pay for that whole process? I highly doubt the humane society will pay for it. I personally don't care if they kill horses for meat as long as its done humanely, but they've forced horse slaughtering underground and the horses suffer having to travel to canada or mexico just to be slaughtered. The humane society should really do more then just bitch, they really should rethink everything and the consequences.
Are you deliberately trying to be retarded? You animal rights tards are hilarious; you think that animals are more important than people and then you go about wasting all kinds of time and energy trying to get the world to agree with your irrational ideas. How pathetic; Only about .000001% of the worlds population is as irrational as you.
They send them Horses to Mexico and Canada so they can ship them back to the USA in patties and served at Burger King and McDonald's.
Americans want vehicles that run on cheap affordable fuel. Well we don't even need to convert the excess corn and wheat into ethanol just feed it to are new car, the horse DUH!
"can ship them back to the USA in patties and served at Burger King and McDonald's." umm its an export,there is not really a market for horse meat in the USA. so horse meat is not used in fast food. i hear that horse a is really dark meat.
Where I live we have had 2 Asian restaurants get nailed about 10 times for feeding people cat!
When I lived in Florida we had a subway get raided for serving seal meat to people.
Its not like there doing DNA tests on each patty. Each fast food joint buys the cheapest meat and grinds it up with cow and sends it right to you to feed to your kids. there is a huge market for it its cheep dirt cheep what do you think a cow cost compared to a horse? There are no laws against it, its cattle.
basicly the horses will be starved to death rather than being put to a good use in there old age. what a wonderful plan by the H.S., same idiots that cry when they kill a deer with a car but dont want me hunt them. Anyone who gives them money is fucking retarded I hope they choke on there soyburgers and sea weed shakes.
just one thing! you don't give names to chickens and cows, you don't pet them and they don't work so hard to win you money or to go for a canter in the woods...they are food from beginning...but those horses were friends to us and what they'll get for all that trying? a bullet in the head, now how is that? if you want to eat horses, don't make them your friends first and them stab them in the back!
very true in ireland every horse is looked after and cared for if you shot a healthy horse over here your goin to jail america has huge amounts of great grazing landscapes release the horses to the wild when there to slow or to old a horse can survive on its own they dont depend on us for survival
Aren't liberals kind of into that liberty thing? You basically stated that having liberty [the ability to do what you want] means being deprived. a joke? Seriously though why are moderates the minority?
to MOSSYBURGER: funny you mention that about cockroaches. I have been saying to my wife for years (as a joke)....I ought to become the father of "insect rights"....make bumper stickers that read "maggots have feelings too" or "lice is nice"....or...."take a turmite to lunch"
Also, now I think the government is making those farmers' lives more miserable, just for the sake of animals. No, actually making the horses starved first before they get slaughtered. No win on both horses and farmers. dumb!
Different cultures, different places. If you can't deal with that then you're a close minded dullard who can't look past their own arrogant lifestyle.
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you shut up dick head.. fuck your mum, thats how you amercians are like.. all fucking twisted in the head.. no nothing .. cant read or spell or write.. look at research showing you Americans are useless crap
yeah i totally agree with you. they use whatever we make and then call us useless. they should know that the computer they use is MADE IN USA. all thanks to the IBM.
everything? who invented cars, bicycles, who is the father of modern medicine? there were flying attempts around the world before usa existed. and chinese already drilled for oil a long time ago.
thanks for all inventions, but your narcissism is getting annoying.
do you feel the same way about maggots, cockroaches, lice and rats.....arent they "gods creatures" too?.....I am not joking or putting you down. I just want to make the point that everything is gods creatures but we do not feel the same way about all of them....we tend to be selective.
I'm stuck in between. While I am completely against horse slaughtering, at the same time, if none were killed, what would happen to the ones that can't be fed? It is even worse for them to die of starvation than being slaughtered.
whats wrong with wild mustangs? oh and what other problems would be created by banning the exportation of live animals? i bet the nobody thought of that. ;)
I've eaten horse. It's pretty damn good. It's a safer choice then cattle beef. Why is it ok to kill cows for food but now horse? Doesn't make sense to me. Lets eat em all.
Not everyone finds it okay to eat any kind of animals. i'm a vegetarian and have been since i was 12 years old. but honestly, eating a horse is better than eating a dog or cat. now that shit is the worst.
It's been placed on this Earth for sustinence of all creatures.
We humans have evolved with a diet that relies on a wide variety of foods, so I don't see the need in arbitrarily deciding to limit the scope of one's diet.
Of course, it is America, where everyone has the innate right to do as they please.
I just don't see the point in limiting one's health, by ignoring neccesary nutrients, to follow some "moral" code.
the human animals will never learn,the only hope is in divinity,but if not,it would be wonderful to be invited to a fema camp and witness millions of human apes being slaughtered,especially in my lord and saviors jesus name,im starting to feel like a muzzy!
Bleeding heart nitwits. What on earth do you think is going to happen to the horse? The farmer will feed it for free forever? You keep the farmer from cutting a profit, and he will just shoot the thing and bury it in his field.
Have you ever thought about wild horses getting road killed?
Hitting a horse would instantly kill a driver at any speed.
Why do you think Animal Shelters euthanize dogs? Animal Shelter owners do not want to kill a dog...
They only do it because if they didn't there would be Millions of stray dogs and cats roaming around America.
Have you ever been to Taiwan or China? Dogs are EVERYWHERE! Its sad and disgusting at the same time. They only do this to control the market and population.
its nice to see informed americans. i am originally from india. we have wild boars, dogs running around there. these dogs are sick, they are malnourished, they are a nuisance for the public, kids throw stones at them. its disgusting. you have to experience it to know what i am saying. population control and humane killing of animals is a MUST.
The question then comes to, if your proposal goes through, how many horses can you humanely let "run free" on 200,000 acres of land.
Because, I'm willing to bet that it's nowhere near enough to house all the horses in this dispute.
Thusly, your stuck with the same problems.
What's wrong with someone proposing a combination of the two ideas, allowing a slaugter of the "lame" horses in the US, while opening a reserve to protect the ones that are fit?
CUEAL isnt a word
deadsprawl 4 months ago
YOU ARE STUPID KILL HORSES IS CUEAL
horselover1721 6 months ago
Okay so what the horse trader is saying is that when humans get old and useless we should sell them to cannibals?
Butla93 6 months ago
@muzzatube or a Vegen :)
MrRexrules 7 months ago
@muzzatube Lol they are not killed humanely, they are actually treated like crap their entire life, since their are raised to be killed
giannaluva65 8 months ago
U change the cycle of life and we change the outcome for every living thing. No, I don't want slaughter but I don't want dead horses laying in some barn starved and you can't see them so it don't bother you. I want that picture in your head bothering you until you begin getting the reason why slaughter was there to begin with. read all my posts in order. Put your money out there, help horses out for real or shut your pie-hole. God bless.
tosavealife1966 10 months ago
Now there are horses suffering from Hepatitis from people committing unspeakable acts with horses. Now we have horses suffering from blood-disorders, genetic problems, neurological problems. Where are all the bodies gonna be buried in the USofA? Just curious. The dead need buried, the bodies are hauled off by the state u live in to be burned up. Make you feel better about no slaughter knowing they are malnurished, people that have money are losing jobs,-it's not breeders, u change the cycle
tosavealife1966 10 months ago
people are the killers. A guy has three hungry horses and another guy down the road said ill keep the hay till middle of winter youll pay more then. We gave him hay to help him. There are no slaughter houses so people are being ripped off and the animals suffer. by the way the guy selling hay-he owns no animals so he cares only for money. You stopped the slaughter, so now thousands of animals lay suffering and dying because a hay-seller wants to buy a shiny new truck to impress you all
tosavealife1966 10 months ago
Forty years and three generations of horsepeople in our family and we saw this one coming. For the idiot with the back yard breeder comment. Sit your ass down and shut up. Horses require money, FOOD, and care. Vet,farrier,etc. Been our expirience that young people who dispose of anything or dont take care of it are at the heart of the problem. You look at craigslist-people are begging for hay. Hay dealers are charging more now than ever in history. You can't pay you don't get any-those
tosavealife1966 10 months ago
OK loudmouths OPEN YOUR wallets instead of your MOUTHS and feed these animals.
tosavealife1966 10 months ago
"Lame" "Old" "Useless" Hello these horses are no different then you and I. Ok then "dealer" when you grow old lets shoot you in the head and hope you die then skin you and sell your meat. These people have probably NEVER seen inside a slaughter house and if they have that's just sad. Half these people DISGUIST me when they go and say "old and useless" "what are we going to do with them". YOU DIE when your either too old or sick. Not by getting shot in the head and hoping that the animal dies.
WondersCreated 1 year ago
We don't slaughter useless old people do we??????
cammarkgross 1 year ago 2
Some people are saying that as long as the horses are killed humanly it is fine.
well, here is a question for you. Have YOU ever seen the inside of a slaughter house??? didn't think so.
cammarkgross 1 year ago 2
But I think the people who slaughter them should wait until they at least see if the horses are sold to a good home and then have an auction afterwards for the horses who werent sold.
westernrider46 1 year ago
humane slaughter is okay, cruel slaughter is not. no reason for horses to travel so far, they need to regulate it so animals are not mistreated. there should be a slaughter housewithin 500 miles so horses don't have to spend days in a trailer becoming exhausted and hungry. why are people against horse slaughter when cows and pigs suffer the same treatment? that is hypocritcal and let these same take in the horses and care for them. practice what you preach.
TheRosa63 1 year ago
@TheRosa63 I agree with you. But I'm against all animals being slaughtered. I'm a vegetarian just because we used to have a pet chicken and I was eating chicken and when I looked at her, I couldn't stand thinking I was eating something that beautiful.
westernrider46 1 year ago
fucking retards in canada thier are to many and no where for them to go my granmpa was a breeder for his whole life and just retired sold the farm and the track he made a living of that know you can't if I bought him out I'd be fucked. in canada you where able to make a living of breeding and grouming not any more. my grampa used to hunt of horse back when he was my age he could afford it. it's 2010 and it's cheaper to buy a 4wheeler and hunt from it than a horse? thats wrong.
mrsuperterd 1 year ago
omg i can not believe this shit. Most of theses stupied ass people are going to hell cuz its a sin to kill a living creature of god.
americarockon 1 year ago
Every horse is a good horse, you just have to look deep enough This is rediculous
luckyhorseshoe22 1 year ago
Well Mr.wayne pacelle since we don't eat dogs and cats and in my case we don't eat horses what is the real plan? Many people can't have horses anymore so where do you thing all of this animals are going to end up? you guys shut down the slaughter houses, now you are crying because they have to go to Canada and Mexico. I don't think you can see the reality of the situation that all of u have created, and it was not for the good of the horses.
asqrss3233 1 year ago
It's total bullshit how Journeyman Pictures sides with the Liberals in every single video...
TheCrystalRiver 1 year ago
i hate the thought of horses being slaughtered, but i don't want them to starve. so i think i would be ok with it if it was humane and not stressful like the video showed
squemmer 1 year ago
hey what is you problem we have camels and we eat them and they r very important for ass so what is the big deal if a horse slaughtered
haramacad 1 year ago
@haramacad WHAT"S THE BIG DEAL WHAT"S THE BIG DEAL???I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THE BIG DEAL IS!!!!!!IT'S THAT HORSES DON'T DESERVE THIS I F THEY DON'T GET SOLD IN AN AUCTION THEY WHAT IF THAT HAPPEND TO YOU!?!?NOW IT'S A BIG DEAL EH?
dancer32940 1 year ago
@dancer32940 listen what can they do how manny horses do you have
in the wild you say we have to reduce their number second when it is series injury the veterinary will kill it so this people need money and they love horses if was not those men there were no horses left because they breed it if they have no interest so u know what is next but the trues is it is for the seck of horses . imagine that world with out horsemeat i will not be happy so please stop saying such a thing .
haramacad 1 year ago
@haramacad wat would the world be like without cow meat they do it to cows and pigs but a beautiful creature like a horse!?
dancer32940 1 year ago
The bottom line is, if you CAN'T AFFORD TO FEED YOURSELF, WHAT THE HELL MAKES YOU THINK YOU CAN FEED AN ANIMAL SUCH AS A HORSE!
RuralCoconut 1 year ago
The main problem is when idiotic people mistakenly believe they can afford this.
It takes a tremendous amount of resources to properly care for a horse,and some people aren't doing these horses any favors by keeping them,only to allow them to starve and go into a severe state of neglect when they suddenly discover that a horse was far beyond what they could sensibly afford.
RuralCoconut 1 year ago
Horse slaughter should be humane. Preventing people from eating horse is retarded. I've ate it before and its good. There is simply no legitimate reason not to slaughter horses for meat.
The only popular meat that has a legitimate right not to be eaten is pig, if you argue with this then you're an idiot PERIOD, because pigs are filthy and cause so much disease and damage to land.
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well my view in horse slaughter is well it has to be done but not so cruely, i am the biggest horse lover ever, but horse slaughter is cruel the way they are killed and then eaten, its not right. It wouldnt be so bad if they were "HUMANELY" killed and not eaten for food in other sick countries.
rockymntgirl215 1 year ago
well my view in horse slaughter is well it has to be done but not so cruely, i am the biggest horse lover ever, but horse slaughter is cruel the way they are killed and then eaten, its not right. It wouldnt be so bad if they were "HUMANELY" killed and not eaten for food in other sick countries.
rockymntgirl215 1 year ago
what the fuck....................... will you eat your dog or cat that gave you love will you eat a nothere persone because he is starving or will you help him and give some food
onlinevideo100 2 years ago
now... if only the humane society can make gas cheaper the way they do with horses, then i'll totally jump on their band wagon.
BBGenelie 2 years ago
people want an easy disposal for horses they FUCK up!? People shouldnt get an easy pass to throw life away!! TAKE CARE OF YOUR HORSES!!! and they wouldnt be lame and blind and "useless" until they were old, an then, heres an idea, EUTHANIZE them like a dog or cat. Cheap slimey bastards. And they don't just slaughter OLD horses, I've sen trucks full of WEANLINGS go off... Quit trying to justify cruelty, people. If you are to cowardly to face the facts, then don't make up new ones to feel better!
gryphonkeen 2 years ago 2
@gryphonkeen
A horse can go lame running in a pasture. It can cost a ton of money to have a vet come out and euthanize a horse.
extremerodeocowboy 2 years ago
and if you can't afford to take the risks of horse ownership, while still being fair to the horse, then you have no business owning one. Period.
gryphonkeen 2 years ago
Until people massively reduce breeding (racing/backyard profiteers etc) basically there has to be a system of disposal and the best is humane slaughter.Thanks to PETA ranting and raving they have increased horses suffering instead of reducing it. But haven't they become so quiet on the issue having gotten their way and continue to rake in donations. Not a mention about the future consequeses of their actions. They got their way so screw you, jack.
feathers666 2 years ago 2
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i eat horses every day
satanmasta 2 years ago
satanmasta you have problems... why would you eat them? there fun, and loving.. if you just use them for work you need to look deeper and see how fun they are to ride around and get to know, every horse has a different personality if you get to know it well enough.. Go PETA!
jaysonkohlgraf 2 years ago
@satanmasta *GOES CRAZY AND KILLS COMUPTER*
dancer32940 1 year ago
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niriton 2 years ago
I 100% agree. id rather see a horse killed then starved and once the slaughtering industry comes to its end, the fate of the horses with no future will be shocking, and we'll see more horses suffering in the long term. i agree those who cant afford horses shouldnt buy them. but sometimes its the horse that slowly drains the money a person once had. so if you want a horse, be very careful about your decision
17lauren90 2 years ago
4;58 wayne, you kill millions of dogs a year, i hear horse meat is better than elk, fuck you ara's i'll probably never get to eat me some horse meat now dammmmmmmmmm YOU peta, lol
chattarip 2 years ago
If the US slaughter houses would just agree to HUMANELY transport and euthanize horses, I think we could re-open slaughter houses and avoid having horses left to fend for themselves or starved which is much worse than being "knocked out" with a shot.
gypsycowgirlLaura 2 years ago
Apparently, horses are low in fat and carbs, but high in protein. They taste a lot like beef, or so i've been told.
RollingStone1994 2 years ago
PS. If you want to eat horses, then slaughter your own! Don't take ours! >=P
CarolineChaotic01 2 years ago
Its wrong to slaughter horses that are perfectly healthy, young, and trained or can be trained. I own a OLD mare and I'm keeping her till she croaks!
CarolineChaotic01 2 years ago 2
hm.. its wrong to slaugter cows pigs chicken they and perfectly healthy young and can be train..... why dont u also say this?
Scallop10v3 2 years ago
It's all on opinion.. But with me I say it's like eating your dog or cat.. And for the guy in 6:07 having a horse is your responsabilty and you baught the horse, you should know how expensive they are ! :(
IndyCoat 2 years ago
I, for one, don't understand the Humane Society CEO at all. I mean, where's he going to put all the horses? Who do you suppose is going to take care of all the horses if keeping them leads to a financial dead end?
OneDragonmaster 2 years ago
I see alot of whining about capitalism here. if you dont like slaughtering, put your money where your mouth is, buy one. if you dont, dont bitch about it.
Perditionswrath 2 years ago 2
Shut up scipio2009. You talk like you own the argument. I hope you never become as dispensible as those poor horses, victims of a cruel world market-place where greed and profit margins reign supreme...
SAMRONTOS 2 years ago
It is far more cruel to starve an animal than to kill it quickly. If you want to save the animals buy them yourself and pay to feed them and care for them. Farmers have a hard time of things already. don't make it worse.
itbarthur4u 3 years ago
the main problem is there are toooo many back yard breeders. Anyone who has a mare feels like they have to have her bred and so ther the problem starts. they find they cant take care of all of them and so sell them and this is where they end up. :(
blondecowgrl009 3 years ago 15
no it is the stigma against eating horse, if you raise something, then raise something you can eat, if times get to hard for you to fend for it, I can't wait till these citybred crybabies get hungry enough to eat their precious shithounds, lol, you are right though the other day i seen an ole boy breed a club footed stud just cause he had good papers, what is good papers?
chattarip 2 years ago
Honestly, what would people, like the Humane Society, suggest they fo instead?
The auctioneer makes an excellent point, that after the horses are no longer of use to them, they must be removed somehow.
If the Humane Society was so hell-bent on protecting these horses, deemed unfit, why don't they offer to purchase the horses from these dealers, and then doing whatever thing they believe to be better?
Seems like a simple situation
scipio2009 3 years ago
The humane society needs to start understanding that it is no more cruel to kill a horse than a chicken or cow. If those people want to eat horse, then let them. It is better to kill the horses and use them than send them out to starve. They are so far removed from reality.
watanake 3 years ago
Why dont we slaughter humans,we are over populated and sometimes worthless,first start with nuking Iran then russia,north korea and china,humans are scum and i hope the earth blows the fuck up how worthless!
tkodawg9 3 years ago
Merry Christmas everyone
God sent His son, they called Him Jesus
He came to love, heal, and forgive.
He lived and died to buy my pardon,
An empty grave is there to prove my Savior lives.
Because He lives, I can face tomorrow.
Because He lives, All fear is gone.
Because I know He holds the future,
And life is worth the living just because He lives.
kamajiboy 3 years ago
Instead of arbitrarily going after Iran, Russia, North Korea and China, since all humans are scum, why don't we just start in YOUR hometown with YOUR family.
Why don't we just start with blowing up all the homes of people in your extended family.
Since, all humans are scum, I expect you to be in that first house.
But, of course, you're another hypocryt.
scipio2009 3 years ago
Typical Americans .....Kill , Kill, and more Killing.
smooocher 3 years ago
you're right, we invented that art and hold an exclusive patent on it
clb691 3 years ago
wish you could be deep fried
neuronpie 3 years ago
People suck - they believe they are licensed to do whatever they choose. Makes me sick to my stomach.
neuronpie 3 years ago
You are expressing that same belief in this protest that you're trying to put forth, so we, the "people that suck", forgive you.
enjoy the holiday
scipio2009 3 years ago
fuck these hippie vegatarians. I am a horse lover but understand the reality of it all. Whoever has the price gets the damn horse. If they're broken down and blind, don't make them go through any more pain. Don't just let them rot in the ground: at least feed someone and pass on life. It really is the circle of life, guys!
Tacomanmx 3 years ago 2
Humane Society =Big business .Money maker an no they dont ship the cats an dogs off for meat they put them down becuase theres not enough people wanting them whats the differance
kreeper88 3 years ago
I have mixed feelings on this but it's better for an unwanted horse to be killed humanely then allowed to starve.
Often people just don't look at the big picture.
Maybe they could use the same rules that are in place for putting down cats and dogs though injections may or may not ruin the meat.
Membrane556 3 years ago 2
These pea-brain activists have no regard for the Business and so of course the horse traders won't work with them. They want these people's livelihood abolished. I can't believe how stupid Liberals are. It is a mental disorder.
utubeelliott 3 years ago
No need to put this on all liberals.
Same reason why I can't blame the wrongs of the religious right on all conservatives.
You go out and get moberate liberals and moderate conservatives together, and I'd be willing to bet that you can come up with the best solution.
scipio2009 3 years ago
Sad to put them through the trip. The horses are one of the various types of cattle that need to be humanely euthanized, Done Locally, with the profits going to the local economy. It ends up right back in the US in glue, dogfood etc... Very STUPID Humane Society, Putting the horses through that grueling trip.
davem62290 3 years ago 2
horses aren't cattle.
The fossil record shows that they have a different evolutionary past than the bovids (cows, deers, buffalo, etc.) and are thus classified as equids, their own family.
togio100 3 years ago
tomato, tomato
scipio2009 3 years ago
America has just solved global warming... who would have thought?
chazrc23 3 years ago
as a animal LOVER and trying to save my money so i can buy a farm in a few years...i can say it makes perfect sense to kill a horse plain and simple
farmers look at a horse not as a friend but as a working tool, and what do you do when the tool is broken and cant be fixed? SELL IT!
this is not greed people, its common sense, where are the unwanted horses end up?? but thats just my point of view
Caliboyz101139 3 years ago
mostly the poor and greedy farmers sell broken "tools". there are farmers that keep and treat the animals. but they have to be loaded with money.
HolySpringRolls 3 years ago
If you're so up in arms about it, throw in some money, to protecting the helpless horses from the "mostly poor and greedy farmers".
It all makes sense, if you hold to your convictions.
But of course, you're a hypocryt, condemning their behaviour without supporting the behaviour you want them to pick up, so this conversation becomes a waste.
sad reaaly
scipio2009 3 years ago
why dont the horse lovers bitch about it when we kill cows for meat? same thing with the whale / dolphin lovers, they dont say ANYTHING about the millions of pounds of tuna that we eat and kill each year, they dont even know what they are bitching about, they are just complaining to complain.
Crusafriedchiken 3 years ago 3
horse lovers cant bitch about fish cause they cant hear tuna screaming.
HolySpringRolls 3 years ago
So instead of killing the horses let them get around frail, blind and sick.... is that humane??
Fucking animal rights people give me the shits!!
ozstickman 3 years ago
so u r trying to say if some of human r also weak nd lazy they should slaughter nd eat
EXDEOBANDI 3 years ago
That's a relative question.
For one, humans and animals share two different levels in the world's society. As much as HS and PETA want to deny it, they are just as guilty in this as the horse-steak eating rancher.
Secondly, the cost of caring for humans, to carry for an animal, is weighted differently in our societry.
If someone were to propose that all "inelligibles" were to be terminated, to improve the effieciency of the world at large, people would be up in arms, far more.
ok?
scipio2009 3 years ago
Humanizing animals is always culturally coloured. In western societies cats, dogs and horses are considered as a taboo to be exploited for food. E.g. Beefburgers are eaten, not so in Hindu culture, there pork is common, what is unthinkeable in muslim culture. Chinese love dog and catmeat, and so on.
Tunguskaja 3 years ago
which brings me to the difference in cultures. I have no desire to amalgamate with, and will fight against any culture that heartily offends my basic beliefs. Humanitarianism is - not exclusively - fundamentally a Christian principle. Barbarians should stay in their own countries.
neuronpie 3 years ago
If you can come up with a solution to the root problem, finding a way to dispose of horses deemed unfit for work, bring it forth, tell your congressman, and try to draw attention to the solution.
Sitting back and just calling everyone evil does nothing to fix the problem.
Stond whining, and try being part of the solution for once.
scipio2009 3 years ago
i can see some points here.
But, i don't understand one thing. if they have so many horses in a place,why not send a handfull to other countries who could use them?
It's alright to put down the very sick and very old horses. But, why slaughter such beautiful animals when they can be of use? There are children and people in the world who would love to have one of those horses :)
Please dont' slaughter them.
Send them to people who would care and want them!
xSavetex 3 years ago
Im sure they won't mind shipping them to other countries, but who's going to pay for that whole process? I highly doubt the humane society will pay for it. I personally don't care if they kill horses for meat as long as its done humanely, but they've forced horse slaughtering underground and the horses suffer having to travel to canada or mexico just to be slaughtered. The humane society should really do more then just bitch, they really should rethink everything and the consequences.
chinesemusicDJ 3 years ago
and whos going to pay for that trip?? i would LOVE if they gave me some horses for free but lets be real here
Caliboyz101139 3 years ago
That would cost money. These men are hurting for money as it is.
utubeelliott 3 years ago
the lack of money does not excuse barbarity.
neuronpie 3 years ago
Who said the killing was brutal?
Are you going to pay for it?
Didn't think so
utubeelliott 3 years ago
are you deliberately trying to be obnoxious? The killing is barbaric for the most part. We need less people, not less animals.
neuronpie 3 years ago
Are you deliberately trying to be retarded? You animal rights tards are hilarious; you think that animals are more important than people and then you go about wasting all kinds of time and energy trying to get the world to agree with your irrational ideas. How pathetic; Only about .000001% of the worlds population is as irrational as you.
Ahhh! The amazing world of liberals.
Gotta go; I have some bacon and eggs cooking.
utubeelliott 3 years ago 2
They send them Horses to Mexico and Canada so they can ship them back to the USA in patties and served at Burger King and McDonald's.
Americans want vehicles that run on cheap affordable fuel. Well we don't even need to convert the excess corn and wheat into ethanol just feed it to are new car, the horse DUH!
GodKillerAtheist 3 years ago
"can ship them back to the USA in patties and served at Burger King and McDonald's." umm its an export,there is not really a market for horse meat in the USA. so horse meat is not used in fast food. i hear that horse a is really dark meat.
Dragonzwang2 3 years ago
Where I live we have had 2 Asian restaurants get nailed about 10 times for feeding people cat!
When I lived in Florida we had a subway get raided for serving seal meat to people.
Its not like there doing DNA tests on each patty. Each fast food joint buys the cheapest meat and grinds it up with cow and sends it right to you to feed to your kids. there is a huge market for it its cheep dirt cheep what do you think a cow cost compared to a horse? There are no laws against it, its cattle.
GodKillerAtheist 3 years ago
good riddance.
they should start shooting humans that aren't useful too. need to cut down on the population.
toiletsrus 3 years ago 2
basicly the horses will be starved to death rather than being put to a good use in there old age. what a wonderful plan by the H.S., same idiots that cry when they kill a deer with a car but dont want me hunt them. Anyone who gives them money is fucking retarded I hope they choke on there soyburgers and sea weed shakes.
trapping6 3 years ago 7
right on..
xhatemetalx 3 years ago
just one thing! you don't give names to chickens and cows, you don't pet them and they don't work so hard to win you money or to go for a canter in the woods...they are food from beginning...but those horses were friends to us and what they'll get for all that trying? a bullet in the head, now how is that? if you want to eat horses, don't make them your friends first and them stab them in the back!
Vaichuck 3 years ago
very true in ireland every horse is looked after and cared for if you shot a healthy horse over here your goin to jail america has huge amounts of great grazing landscapes release the horses to the wild when there to slow or to old a horse can survive on its own they dont depend on us for survival
solsm08 3 years ago
I don't know about you, but not once, in the video, did I see any reference to the horses, being packed for slaugter, being treated like family pets.
That being the case, your point becomes mute
scipio2009 3 years ago
Eating a horse is more respectful than making glue of them.
hstemann 3 years ago
i don't quite understand that...
GDavidson87 3 years ago
what restaurants do they serve horse meat
raider2121 3 years ago
Any fast food joint, they just label it cattle.
GodKillerAtheist 3 years ago
export
Dragonzwang2 3 years ago
we dont eat horses in canada. wtf
Bgrazier 3 years ago
export
Dragonzwang2 3 years ago
Nothing's wrong with a good Horse tartare isn't it ?
Melpheos1er 3 years ago
fuck stupid fat americans, glad their economy is crashing.
05death05 3 years ago
what country do you live in?
AustinSax94 3 years ago
save the good horses, nothing wrong with that
zrdm3 3 years ago 2
then we treat cows and chickens humainly
zrdm3 3 years ago
they'll bring us down though mate :\
zombiekid16 3 years ago
This is stupid I usually do not side with red necks but in this case I'll make an exception
LTDreams 3 years ago
Aren't liberals kind of into that liberty thing? You basically stated that having liberty [the ability to do what you want] means being deprived. a joke? Seriously though why are moderates the minority?
budmanonetwo12 3 years ago
uhhh how terrible I must say.LOL Horses wouldn't be around without humans!!
jobenenen 3 years ago
Well of course it's inhumane, they're horses.
What should we dress them up? Give them leather shoes, pants, shirt and a jaunty little hat?
pahwraith 3 years ago
What? Every animal species needs population control. When there's too many dogs and cats we put them down too.
pqwilrj 3 years ago 3
why dnt make horse free lived in land
E9878 3 years ago
why doesn't anyone protect cockroaches?
they feel pain too.
mossyburger 3 years ago
to MOSSYBURGER: funny you mention that about cockroaches. I have been saying to my wife for years (as a joke)....I ought to become the father of "insect rights"....make bumper stickers that read "maggots have feelings too" or "lice is nice"....or...."take a turmite to lunch"
inkey2 3 years ago
I agree with Lemnll.
Also, now I think the government is making those farmers' lives more miserable, just for the sake of animals. No, actually making the horses starved first before they get slaughtered. No win on both horses and farmers. dumb!
Bluemilo 3 years ago
Different cultures, different places. If you can't deal with that then you're a close minded dullard who can't look past their own arrogant lifestyle.
JamesStarkweather 3 years ago
all animals should be loved and cared fo r their gods animals
ghdc1234 3 years ago
Shut up.
UmmImHigh 3 years ago
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you shut up dick head.. fuck your mum, thats how you amercians are like.. all fucking twisted in the head.. no nothing .. cant read or spell or write.. look at research showing you Americans are useless crap
statuecollector86 3 years ago
The way i'm looking at it..you sound like an illiterate who doesn't know how to speak? Hmm, but of course I COULD be wrong.
UmmImHigh 3 years ago 3
LOL..whats funny is that youtube was invented in the US and your watching it...then calling us useless??
Go heat some McDonalds, play your ipod and run your windows on your PC, all american made euro trash
Caliboyz101139 3 years ago
yeah i totally agree with you. they use whatever we make and then call us useless. they should know that the computer they use is MADE IN USA. all thanks to the IBM.
doom0metal0madness 3 years ago
To be fair, it was the British who actually made computers afforedable though.
"In the future the world may need as many as 8 computers" - IBM
chazrc23 3 years ago
America invents EVERYTHING. Keep hating us you nutless twerp.
utubeelliott 3 years ago
everything? who invented cars, bicycles, who is the father of modern medicine? there were flying attempts around the world before usa existed. and chinese already drilled for oil a long time ago.
thanks for all inventions, but your narcissism is getting annoying.
HolySpringRolls 3 years ago
I was making a point genius.
utubeelliott 3 years ago
do you feel the same way about maggots, cockroaches, lice and rats.....arent they "gods creatures" too?.....I am not joking or putting you down. I just want to make the point that everything is gods creatures but we do not feel the same way about all of them....we tend to be selective.
inkey2 3 years ago
I got an animal between my legs. That you can love and touch... If you know what i mean.
Her name is Calie. =D
MartinezCowboys1 3 years ago
no, they are not god's creatures because god does not exist!
BrianDeParma 3 years ago
I'm stuck in between. While I am completely against horse slaughtering, at the same time, if none were killed, what would happen to the ones that can't be fed? It is even worse for them to die of starvation than being slaughtered.
Lemnii 3 years ago 5
whats wrong with wild mustangs? oh and what other problems would be created by banning the exportation of live animals? i bet the nobody thought of that. ;)
jayseanNO9 3 years ago
America! FUCK YEAH!!!
xxxzoso 3 years ago
fuck usa!!! usa is stupid land ever i hope tsunami wil destroy it!!!
dylano1200 3 years ago
haha dead horses
USA! USA! USA!
elyrosetta 3 years ago
You inhumane son of a bitch
statuecollector86 3 years ago
I've eaten horse. It's pretty damn good. It's a safer choice then cattle beef. Why is it ok to kill cows for food but now horse? Doesn't make sense to me. Lets eat em all.
lesmcluffalot 3 years ago 2
Not everyone finds it okay to eat any kind of animals. i'm a vegetarian and have been since i was 12 years old. but honestly, eating a horse is better than eating a dog or cat. now that shit is the worst.
Princess09x 3 years ago
IMO, food is food.
It's been placed on this Earth for sustinence of all creatures.
We humans have evolved with a diet that relies on a wide variety of foods, so I don't see the need in arbitrarily deciding to limit the scope of one's diet.
Of course, it is America, where everyone has the innate right to do as they please.
I just don't see the point in limiting one's health, by ignoring neccesary nutrients, to follow some "moral" code.
scipio2009 3 years ago
the human animals will never learn,the only hope is in divinity,but if not,it would be wonderful to be invited to a fema camp and witness millions of human apes being slaughtered,especially in my lord and saviors jesus name,im starting to feel like a muzzy!
creten69 3 years ago
I don't have anything against killing animals, as long as they are treeted well, and dosn't suffer.
TheJohnOfJacks 3 years ago 9
Bleeding heart nitwits. What on earth do you think is going to happen to the horse? The farmer will feed it for free forever? You keep the farmer from cutting a profit, and he will just shoot the thing and bury it in his field.
nitouken 3 years ago 2
Why doesn't anyone protect chickens, or tuna, or cattle?
EyeLuvGaeSekzz 3 years ago
because they are delicious
snownet 3 years ago 2
People do.
Check out Peta or Actions for Animals.
FreakerXoXo 3 years ago
There's good news.
A woman who owns 200,000 acres of land is planning on taking the horses and letting them run free again.
KineticRic 3 years ago
The lame and blind horses can "run" free and die in the wild? That's terrible.
sy1234 3 years ago
"run free" meaning, to get the hell away from the monsters in this video.
KineticRic 3 years ago
Have you ever thought about wild horses getting road killed?
Hitting a horse would instantly kill a driver at any speed.
Why do you think Animal Shelters euthanize dogs? Animal Shelter owners do not want to kill a dog...
They only do it because if they didn't there would be Millions of stray dogs and cats roaming around America.
Have you ever been to Taiwan or China? Dogs are EVERYWHERE! Its sad and disgusting at the same time. They only do this to control the market and population.
yellowman88 3 years ago 2
its nice to see informed americans. i am originally from india. we have wild boars, dogs running around there. these dogs are sick, they are malnourished, they are a nuisance for the public, kids throw stones at them. its disgusting. you have to experience it to know what i am saying. population control and humane killing of animals is a MUST.
ilikeicecreamandcake 3 years ago 3
I sense some hostility, but I dont know why.
Dont you think its a good thing that someone is willing to take a lot of these horses and put them on their own land?
And yes I have been to China, Shenyang and Tianjin to be exact.
KineticRic 3 years ago 2
The question then comes to, if your proposal goes through, how many horses can you humanely let "run free" on 200,000 acres of land.
Because, I'm willing to bet that it's nowhere near enough to house all the horses in this dispute.
Thusly, your stuck with the same problems.
What's wrong with someone proposing a combination of the two ideas, allowing a slaugter of the "lame" horses in the US, while opening a reserve to protect the ones that are fit?
scipio2009 3 years ago
no its not its natural
blondecowgrl009 3 years ago
If I only had a good chunk of land, I'd take those horses in. Better alive than not. Think only the horses would probably agree with me.
lyden2006 3 years ago
i agree with you!:)
blondecowgrl009 3 years ago
So sad!
19761205 3 years ago