3 reasons for heel toe, 1) its smoother and helps to keep the car from weight shifting and being upset going into a turn causing a spin. 2) its a lot easier on the clutch. Clutches cost more and are more difficult to change compared to brakes 3) using the clutch to slow a race car down repeatedly can cause the flywheel to break off the end of the crankshaft.
I have 25 years of performance engine building as well as competitive racing.
I don't especially agree with you about the real benefit of heel-and-toe downshifting. It must be better for the transmission, but it certainly makes you consume more and reduce your brake pads' lifetime since you don't use your engine braking. I'm European and we mainly drive cars with manual gearboxes in our countries. I don't know anyone who does that. I even hadn't heard of that since today actually and I just do the opposite: I often downshift 2 gears in once and I clutch slowly...
really love the sound of that engine downshifting and shifting up to a higher gear! reminds me so much of how me and my dad would go in angles crest forest and go fast down the mountain pass and downshift and what not...lol our car is a 96 mazda miata by the way. it has great handling...zips through the corners like nothing!
@thenutellatheif The Miata is a fantastic car. In fact, the Miata (to my knowledge) was modeled after the Lotus Elan. Google the Elan from the 1960s - 1970s, and see the remarkable similarities.
i learned how to do this in sport mode in my automatic. i was wondering why it was so hard, then i realize i have to fit the blip into a half second timespan. you actually do it pretty slowly, which im assuming is the correct way to do it haha.
@brostugen Thanks! I do it every day in my Subaru STi. But, it can depend a lot on how the pedals are set up in your car. Some pedals are easier than others. Spacing between them.... relative heights... etc.
You said "never downshift to slow down"...What? I thought "engine breaking" was good, because it doesn't wear anything down, and you don't need to use your brakes.
Okay, are you using the toes on both feet to step on the break pedal (thus making a triangle shape), or are you using only the toe of the right foot while you keep the right heel on the gas pedal (and keeping your left foot entirely on the clutch)? (I think I could see it all clearly.)
You are using rev matching to downshift along with using the brakes, right? That's why this is called 'heel-toe shifting'? (I don't drive manual so this is going to be new to me, thanks for being so patient.)
many track racers use compression braking coupled with traditional brakes to achieve a more controlled decelleration (where traction is less of an issue) and to control body roll/sway, also allowing one to downshift before a turn to accelerate harder through the corner. However, relying on downshifting alone to slow a car while racing is just, well, silly!
@Fonno88 Your argument assumes that all race car drivers are professionals with sponsorships. There are your average Joes that build/work on their cars in the garage and take them to the track on the weekend. It'd make sense financially to not unnecessarily wear out the transmission components when the brakes can do the same job and as said before are cheaper to replace.
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idiot!! you have to downshift to slow down when you are in a track, you can spin depending on the layout of the car so that why you should adjust your driving lanes depending on the car, if you don't use downshift or compression when going around a track you are going to cook your brakes and hat is even more dangerous
@10petrolhead10 Wow... you could not be more wrong. Your post would indicate that you have no training or experience with track driving. And, by opening with name-calling would indicate your under 20 years old. :-) But, enjoy your video games.
@mikebarrdds I'm 21, and i do have track driving experience, just if you haven't noticed brakes get really hot when you are in the track and you have to downshift to help the car slow down, if you watch rally or australian v8 you'll see they do it all the time,there's no way you can be on the track for more than 15 mins only using your brakes to slow down without having dangerous brake fade. The fact that you say using compression can result in a skid indicates you can't handle that mr layout :)
@mikebarrdds hell yea man you tell em!lol also i have to just say....your interior looks so lean, but functional still. i love the way it looks and the holes cut out and everything, looks simply amazing
@10petrolhead10 ever seen a F1 race? the brakes start to GLOW bright yellow due to the friction!!!
its a very simple physics game. your engine can exxelerate your car from 0-100km/h in 10s, the breakes only need a fraction of that time, so they absorbe more energy than the engine ever could.
@heldgop You are totally right they glow because of the heat but we are talking about carbon ceramic comp brakes here, they cool down much faster than steel or aluminum brakes on your regular car. I do know physics i'm a mechanical engineer and i do know your engine slows you down, compression means your engine is being forced to move by the cars inertia, that compresses all the gases inside the combustion chamber, the result energy is absorbed car slows down a bit, less stress on your brakes...
@10petrolhead10 no they dont cool down faster than normal steel brakes, they just can handle a higher temperature, steel brakes would "melt" at these temps. (im an engineer aswell ;D)
and its true, the compression of the gas absorbs some of the energy, but there is friction aswell.
and what would you prefer to change due to wear? the moving parts in your engine, or the brakes on your car?
@heldgop Well...they might not cool down faster at a particular temperature, but blackbodies radiate away more energy per time at higher temperatures, so if the ceramic brakes can handle higher temperatures they CAN radiate away more energy at those higher temperatures just by virtue of being hotter.
@10petrolhead10 You realize not only engineers know how a combustion engine works. On top of what he said (you can spin out if you do that), Your going fast into the turn its not like on the street so you have to use the brake not just the compression or else you wont slow down enough (because your waiting as long as possible to even slow down). Besides hes not the only one using this technique. I dont think pro drivers are wrong about the best way to drive on a track =).
@4drena1in3 First of all i never said you should only use compression to slow down, what i said is that you should use both, heel and toe is about revmatch+compression and braking. they do both at the same time, if you only use your brakes you are going to cook them after just a few laps. there are many driving techniques that use compression such as lift off, and i said pro drivers use both compression and braking. Do a little more research or at least read my comments better
Cant drive YET, but i gotta basic understandin on manual trannys.. But how would u know what the revs of the transmission would be... U just don't and that's y u "blip" the throttle in order 2 rev match? Anyone know?
@illlanoize23 you learn from doing it. If i need to go from3rd to 2nd and im at 2500 rpms i would rev a little over 3500 and and as it fades into 3500 i would ease my clutch nicely and i wont feel a jerk. but really until you actually DRIVE manual, this is a little beyond what you should learn. focus on getting used to clutching properly (practice stop to 1st).
Being in a car with someone not blipping the throttle on downshifts wouldn't be fun. Even daily driving I blip and "try" to heel toe, my peddles are a little far apart to do it. You can always just Blip the throttle matching rpms as much as you can and then let off the throttle once it is in gear and let the engine breaking slow down the car. I don't know why anyone would want to be beat up downshifting that hard (Without Blipping it) anyway.
i dont know alot about shifting a car (close to nothing actually) but i thought using brakes or throttle isnt good for the transmission when shifting. Please someone who knows what they are talking about, explain the mechanics to me
remember... always brake first, clutch, then gas"blip". took me awhile to understand it, but you're just going to have to feel it or have good timing.
@Dickhudt44 used more for racing but super useful for defensive driving when it comes to avoiding accidents, saved my ass many times knowing how to do it, learn it
You are ignorant. Several times in this video you did use compression braking. The only thing that you have said to do is rev match. I can agree rev matching is important, but you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
@xtelevisionset to bypass syncros by revmatching, it has to either be no Clutch shift, or double clutch shift, because rhe clutch must engaged to have any effect on spinning the trans input/counter shafts etc Single clutch shifts are almost always going to require the syncro to match the tranny shaft speeds. An I agree that modern trannies are stronger than ever before.
@RezDezMugabi It all depends on technique and how old your car is. Synchronizers are strong enough to completely eliminate double clutching these days. Rev-matching eliminates the need for the synchros just like double clutching. If the engine speed is moving the same speed as the gears you don't even need a clutch, but of course that doesn't really apply to downshifting. Either technique is putting little to no strain on your transmission, clutch, and gears.
@matthewbode15 These race cars are designed to be able to be used without a clutch. Watch Keiichi Tsuchiya race in street cars and observe his clutch technique.
@RezDezMugabi He's only one of the best race car drivers in the world. And probably the best street car driver in the world. His shifting technique is the standard.
Ha..... look at every dirt bike to semi...... a transmission is blown by over loaded such as too much weight or not knowing how to use a clutch...... I could go on forever. Go ask any mechanic and they will tell you the same. A transmission is made to last!!
You realize that in the bubble at the beginning of the video you said "This is intended for TRACK..." and then it says "... NEVER downshift on the track during performance driving", right?
@sweetlikeADAM What he means is, heel-toeing is intended for track use and that you should never jump off the clutch without heel-toeing on a track as it could cause a spin. Two seperate sentences explaining two seperate things. :)
@sweetlikeADAM I said you never downshift for the purpose of slowing the car down on the track. In other words, you don't use compression braking on the track, as it is uncontrolled and can cause a spin. On the track you use the brakes to slow down. You downshift at the same time (heel-toe) in order to be in the right gear when you get back on the throttle as you exit the turn.
@sweetlikeADAM I said you never downshift for the purpose of slowing the car down on the track. In other words, you don't use compression braking on the track, as it is uncontrolled and can cause a spin. On the track you use the brakes to slow down. You downshift at the same time (heel-toe) in order to be in the right gear when you get back on the throttle as you exit the turn.
@NewGameReleases it won't, when you do it smoothly. the thing is, when shifting fast, you (and no other manual-beginner for that matter) are not as percise with your feet than when shifting slowly. so yeah, it'll get better with practising. but, in the other hand, the car jerking while under heavy acceleration is a great feeling, don't you think? the power being delivered, and a new kick-in-the-ass acceleration, that's pure awesomeness in my opinion :)
@codenamecordon Chirping tires will NOT slow you down at all compared to taking it easier and not chirping. When you're racing, you want to shift the tranny as fast as possible and get back on the gas as fast as possible. As a result, if you do this fast enough and you're in the lower gears (1-3) you should experience chirping.
@xtelevisionset well, I love to have good enough tires (racing slicks for example) to not chirp, even when fast shifting, and flooring it right after the shift (6)
@matthewbode15 When you're racing, you would burn out the clutch and tranny in no time doing that. Brakes are designed to slow down a car, that's what they're there for.
I learnt to use the one foot on both pedals for very different reasons.. Driving old bangers with no handbrake in a very hilly area, so the only way to do hill starts was with a dextrous right foot! Also driven a few old cars with no tickover, so keeping the engine running whilst coming to a stop needs the heel and toe too.
hey i have a question im bearly learing how to drive stander and my friend has been teaching me but when i asked him about downshifting he said that he doesnt do it.... he just puts the car on neutral and rides the break is that good for the car?? his had his car for some years and hasnt had a problem so someone explain...
is heel and toe and double clutching necessary to avoid problems with the transmission when driving on public roads like a normal everyday driver. cause it seems that i get tired of driving manual at times such as traffic it really sucks and to make things even more tiring this seems to be it.
@plehdehgame double clutching is absolutely useless in modern manual transmition (thanks to sycrols) but heel and toe downshifting can help save your clutch if your doing it properly and if not used for every downshift (example when you need to take a turn in 2nd gear after driving in 5th.... skip from 5th to 2nd without going through all gears in between).... plus heel-toe is hella fun so why not?
@moham7ad it also helps reduce the pull or jerk you feel when you downshift and the rpms kick back up because you rev match. heel toe is one of the best techniques for driving stick in my book
@moham7ad Actually it is not useless. I worn out my syncrodiscs in one year by driving "forest rally". Clutch and shifting techniques save your tranny. Oil sheiks naturally have enough money to order 10 titanium transmissions for their cars :D
@mrelderscrollsfan01 You really need to do both. I can't believe people have posted videos of heel & toe without double clutching. It's painful to watch!
@boo66 There is a big operational difference between using synchros and not. People seem to think there is no advantage of double clutching until they actually do it properly, and it makes a lot of sense if you have a good mechanical understanding. If you drive a car with ABS (I don't), do you just press on the pedal as hard as you can every time you want to brake, because the system is designed to cope with the abuse? I know that's not a perfect comparison but it still translates reasonably
@alexthelyons, its really just needed on the track. when you rev match, it means that youre in lets say 5th gear and you want to downshift to 4th when slowing down. if you just threw it in fourth, the rpms would jump high and the car may shake. when you rev match, you down shift, but before releasing the clutch, just rev it a little to get the rpms up before driving in the lower gear, makes it smoother.
@raredesign there is no additional wear and tear on a clutch from "heel & toe down shifting" or rev matching on a shift. You end up using more clutch when you don't rev match on a down shift. Of course RPM makes a difference too, you'll burn up a clutch faster shifting into gears around 6,000rpm and out of gears at 8,200rpm like the Lotus was designed, but for daily driving rev matching is no more or less harmful to the clutch life. I'd almost say it makes it last longer if anything.
@raredesign there is no additional wear and tear on a clutch from "heel & toe down shifting" or rev matching on a shift. You end up using more clutch when you don't rev match on a down shift. Of course RPM makes a difference too, you'll burn up a clutch faster shifting into gears around 6,000rpm and out of gears at 8,200rpm like the Lotus was designed, but for daily driving rev matching is no more or less harmful to the clutch life. I'd almost say it makes it last longer if anything.
..range. I have seen too many people brake from overdrive and leave it like that until they are stopped. What would you do if you had to quickly get out of the way while you were slowing down? If you dumped your clutch and gunned it in a hurry and had forgotten to select a gear, you would either stall the car, or simply just not move quick enough. You certainly do not want to free roll. This video is focusing on track technique for downshifting into your powerband for optimal power application..
I don't agree with your statement that downshifting is hard on the transmission. "incorrectly" downshifting is hard on the car in general. When your revs are higher than should be, and your clutch is engaged, the transmission may not even being experiencing peak load, but other parts of the engine may be stressed. If you downshift correctly, there should be no excessive wine if any. Auto tranny's even downshift. To correctly drive on the street, you SHOULD downshift to stay in optimal rpm...
I got a question and forgive me I'm new to driving (16 year old) and I just learned how to drive stick.
Would there be any more or less wear and tear if instead say I'm coming to a stop and I just shift to neutral and brake to the stop? Or say I'm coming across a corner and I go into neutral, turn the corner, and then shift into 2nd.
Or is that what's called double-clutching? Pardon my ignorance. I just got my license. Please and thank youuuu.
okay, one question: in videos i always see the following: break & clutch & downshift, gas impulse while braking, and releasing the clutch and then the brake. when i read about it, i always read that you gotta break, clutch, go neutral, gas impulse, downshift and so on, but all the articles say its heel toe downshifting, but aint it double clutch downshifting?
@CRIMSONxFROST in normal traffic the only point i see in this is that you can let your engine howl while slowing down. lets say a girl wants to cross the road in front of you, just coming to a halt while shifting through gears will get you some attention ;). so either you find that useful or not... its to show off, simple as that
He doesnt need this car. What he is doing isnt double clutching. Its matching engine revs with the transmission. Learn your shit before you make a video. When he "double clutched" he hit the clutch once and then mashed on the gas, thats matching revs not double clutching. Idiot
wow haha my dad said that too about down shifting, because in drivers ed they said to always down shift to slow down, my dad said "driver's ed instructors didn't know sh*t and instead of teaching standard keep teaching automatic since it requires no brain"
so heel and toe is for making smoother down shifts rather than faster ones?
jarrus464 2 weeks ago
3 reasons for heel toe, 1) its smoother and helps to keep the car from weight shifting and being upset going into a turn causing a spin. 2) its a lot easier on the clutch. Clutches cost more and are more difficult to change compared to brakes 3) using the clutch to slow a race car down repeatedly can cause the flywheel to break off the end of the crankshaft.
I have 25 years of performance engine building as well as competitive racing.
MrChero07 2 weeks ago
I don't especially agree with you about the real benefit of heel-and-toe downshifting. It must be better for the transmission, but it certainly makes you consume more and reduce your brake pads' lifetime since you don't use your engine braking. I'm European and we mainly drive cars with manual gearboxes in our countries. I don't know anyone who does that. I even hadn't heard of that since today actually and I just do the opposite: I often downshift 2 gears in once and I clutch slowly...
Jehco14 3 weeks ago
engine breaking is mandatory in some countries
tabletka666 1 month ago
really love the sound of that engine downshifting and shifting up to a higher gear! reminds me so much of how me and my dad would go in angles crest forest and go fast down the mountain pass and downshift and what not...lol our car is a 96 mazda miata by the way. it has great handling...zips through the corners like nothing!
thenutellatheif 1 month ago
@thenutellatheif The Miata is a fantastic car. In fact, the Miata (to my knowledge) was modeled after the Lotus Elan. Google the Elan from the 1960s - 1970s, and see the remarkable similarities.
mikebarrdds 1 month ago
nice car
plutocanhack 1 month ago
Why do u have an air horn in ur car?
brightwang26 2 months ago
@brightwang26 never know when u need to blow someones ears out?
slipknotkillerr 2 months ago
i learned how to do this in sport mode in my automatic. i was wondering why it was so hard, then i realize i have to fit the blip into a half second timespan. you actually do it pretty slowly, which im assuming is the correct way to do it haha.
freakin1random 2 months ago
does anyone else notice the air horn
crashking7 2 months ago
ACTUALLY U CANT SEE THE CAR SLOWING DOWN..SO ULL HAVE TO TRUST ME! HAHAHAA
RICENNESS 3 months ago
Can you just clutch in to neutral when slowing to turn then clutch/rev then put it in to first again to speed up?
jetsync21 3 months ago
I want to steal your wheels! :) Thanks for the great video!
uski1942 3 months ago
Nice knees
aaronfromhastings 3 months ago 2
i downshift when i see a couple hotties and i want em to hear my bmw 325 :D
ddawg132 3 months ago
Hi Mike barr,
Nice instructional video, is it easier to be done in the Lotus Elise compared to a normal stick shift family sedan?
Thanks.
brostugen 4 months ago
@brostugen Thanks! I do it every day in my Subaru STi. But, it can depend a lot on how the pedals are set up in your car. Some pedals are easier than others. Spacing between them.... relative heights... etc.
mikebarrdds 3 months ago
Great driving. Very consistent.
GunGuru727 4 months ago
That my dear sir, should be a Lotus Elise. Am I right?
Simbstah 4 months ago
thumbs up if u thought this was a heel-toe double stroking drum tutorial!
i know i did
XxTHECAKEISALIExX94 4 months ago
that is not heel to toe you moron.
UnitedStatesOfSpange 4 months ago
@UnitedStatesOfSpange Trolling? Or just a dumbfuck?
JulianHammond 4 months ago
@JulianHammond i didnt watch the whole video i seen it now :D 2:16-2:19 i sent it with own eyes mayne
UnitedStatesOfSpange 3 months ago
@JulianHammond i still love you
UnitedStatesOfSpange 3 months ago
cant hear shit for what this guy is saying lmao
WhutThePhuq 4 months ago
nice BMW
MrSomeoneelse2 4 months ago
damn this is hard. tried it on my '02 civic. but i just can't get it right!
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>damn this is hard. tried it on my '02 civic. but i just can't get it right!
i've learnt the base mechanics in one week or so: it's not so hard, it's matter of practice.
to me it feels wrong when i don't do it now. :)
0sbraz0 4 months ago
You said "never downshift to slow down"...What? I thought "engine breaking" was good, because it doesn't wear anything down, and you don't need to use your brakes.
RedCl0ud22 4 months ago
what kinda car is that
woodpusher9871 4 months ago
Okay, are you using the toes on both feet to step on the break pedal (thus making a triangle shape), or are you using only the toe of the right foot while you keep the right heel on the gas pedal (and keeping your left foot entirely on the clutch)? (I think I could see it all clearly.)
You are using rev matching to downshift along with using the brakes, right? That's why this is called 'heel-toe shifting'? (I don't drive manual so this is going to be new to me, thanks for being so patient.)
dustymiller65 5 months ago
many track racers use compression braking coupled with traditional brakes to achieve a more controlled decelleration (where traction is less of an issue) and to control body roll/sway, also allowing one to downshift before a turn to accelerate harder through the corner. However, relying on downshifting alone to slow a car while racing is just, well, silly!
nice video.
jmanwild 5 months ago
could you use this downshifting method when not on track ? ( I suppose the car's speed wont decrease)
MrTaoufik09 5 months ago
@Fonno88 Your argument assumes that all race car drivers are professionals with sponsorships. There are your average Joes that build/work on their cars in the garage and take them to the track on the weekend. It'd make sense financially to not unnecessarily wear out the transmission components when the brakes can do the same job and as said before are cheaper to replace.
csskiller 5 months ago
Wait, is your handbrake down or not? I can't really tell haha
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aaaaflasd 5 months ago
Lotus!
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idiot!! you have to downshift to slow down when you are in a track, you can spin depending on the layout of the car so that why you should adjust your driving lanes depending on the car, if you don't use downshift or compression when going around a track you are going to cook your brakes and hat is even more dangerous
10petrolhead10 6 months ago
@10petrolhead10 Wow... you could not be more wrong. Your post would indicate that you have no training or experience with track driving. And, by opening with name-calling would indicate your under 20 years old. :-) But, enjoy your video games.
mikebarrdds 6 months ago 91
@mikebarrdds I'm 21, and i do have track driving experience, just if you haven't noticed brakes get really hot when you are in the track and you have to downshift to help the car slow down, if you watch rally or australian v8 you'll see they do it all the time,there's no way you can be on the track for more than 15 mins only using your brakes to slow down without having dangerous brake fade. The fact that you say using compression can result in a skid indicates you can't handle that mr layout :)
10petrolhead10 5 months ago
@mikebarrdds i bet cornering in that lotus is fun!
honeybearlove65 5 months ago
@mikebarrdds Want to let me borrow this lotus so I can practice? ;)
matthewcardinals 5 months ago
@mikebarrdds hell yea man you tell em!lol also i have to just say....your interior looks so lean, but functional still. i love the way it looks and the holes cut out and everything, looks simply amazing
robrobcharles 5 months ago
@10petrolhead10 and dude when your on the track your always on high revs so you will slow down anyway
geppegep 6 months ago
@10petrolhead10 ever seen a F1 race? the brakes start to GLOW bright yellow due to the friction!!!
its a very simple physics game. your engine can exxelerate your car from 0-100km/h in 10s, the breakes only need a fraction of that time, so they absorbe more energy than the engine ever could.
heldgop 6 months ago
@heldgop You are totally right they glow because of the heat but we are talking about carbon ceramic comp brakes here, they cool down much faster than steel or aluminum brakes on your regular car. I do know physics i'm a mechanical engineer and i do know your engine slows you down, compression means your engine is being forced to move by the cars inertia, that compresses all the gases inside the combustion chamber, the result energy is absorbed car slows down a bit, less stress on your brakes...
10petrolhead10 5 months ago
@10petrolhead10 no they dont cool down faster than normal steel brakes, they just can handle a higher temperature, steel brakes would "melt" at these temps. (im an engineer aswell ;D)
and its true, the compression of the gas absorbs some of the energy, but there is friction aswell.
and what would you prefer to change due to wear? the moving parts in your engine, or the brakes on your car?
i would prefer the brakes, much cheaper :D
heldgop 5 months ago
@heldgop Well...they might not cool down faster at a particular temperature, but blackbodies radiate away more energy per time at higher temperatures, so if the ceramic brakes can handle higher temperatures they CAN radiate away more energy at those higher temperatures just by virtue of being hotter.
SwatGarnetTennis 1 week ago
@10petrolhead10 You realize not only engineers know how a combustion engine works. On top of what he said (you can spin out if you do that), Your going fast into the turn its not like on the street so you have to use the brake not just the compression or else you wont slow down enough (because your waiting as long as possible to even slow down). Besides hes not the only one using this technique. I dont think pro drivers are wrong about the best way to drive on a track =).
4drena1in3 5 months ago
@4drena1in3 First of all i never said you should only use compression to slow down, what i said is that you should use both, heel and toe is about revmatch+compression and braking. they do both at the same time, if you only use your brakes you are going to cook them after just a few laps. there are many driving techniques that use compression such as lift off, and i said pro drivers use both compression and braking. Do a little more research or at least read my comments better
10petrolhead10 5 months ago
@10petrolhead10 Chill out theres no reason to call him an idiot
crystalboarder96 5 months ago
the air horn is if his foot falls asleep XD
lildyrdek777 6 months ago
132213
cheng25317888 6 months ago
Cant drive YET, but i gotta basic understandin on manual trannys.. But how would u know what the revs of the transmission would be... U just don't and that's y u "blip" the throttle in order 2 rev match? Anyone know?
illlanoize23 6 months ago
@illlanoize23 you learn from doing it. If i need to go from3rd to 2nd and im at 2500 rpms i would rev a little over 3500 and and as it fades into 3500 i would ease my clutch nicely and i wont feel a jerk. but really until you actually DRIVE manual, this is a little beyond what you should learn. focus on getting used to clutching properly (practice stop to 1st).
StraightUppJeff 6 months ago
Chuck norris does this bare feet
bhkood 6 months ago
@bhkood I can do this barefoot you dumbass
gavinator90 5 months ago
sick car!! :D
heartache33 6 months ago
Just put it in nuetral if ur gunna slow down ans stop
coltongrundyxxx 7 months ago
@coltongrundyxxx Idiot, Coasting in neutral is dangerous and can actually wear your transmission, also brakes are not that effective.
Cryptic696 6 months ago
@MadManN10Productions I notice that, maybe it's the default position?
makmubotak 7 months ago
lol or do the redneck thing and bend the brake closer to the gas so you don't have to twist your foot like that
eXp0N3nT1aL 7 months ago
.....whats with the air horn....?
greatwhitetailhunter 7 months ago 21
@greatwhitetailhunter The Elise is a very small car and the air horn is louder than the car horn.
eyeAMtwinkEE 2 months ago
Wat car iz dat??
theodor33e 7 months ago
@theodor33e Lotus Elise
BlooDish14 7 months ago
nice lotus btw
selmo999 7 months ago
Being in a car with someone not blipping the throttle on downshifts wouldn't be fun. Even daily driving I blip and "try" to heel toe, my peddles are a little far apart to do it. You can always just Blip the throttle matching rpms as much as you can and then let off the throttle once it is in gear and let the engine breaking slow down the car. I don't know why anyone would want to be beat up downshifting that hard (Without Blipping it) anyway.
MroAeon 7 months ago
i dont know alot about shifting a car (close to nothing actually) but i thought using brakes or throttle isnt good for the transmission when shifting. Please someone who knows what they are talking about, explain the mechanics to me
aldosalthren 7 months ago
lol i just read it at the beginning of the vid but it says 2005 basic lotus elise
i think
CrumBhosale 8 months ago
What car is that?
240sxGuy3 8 months ago
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CrumBhosale 8 months ago
@240sxGuy3 Lotus
CrumBhosale 8 months ago
@CrumBhosale Nice! What model year??
240sxGuy3 8 months ago
remember... always brake first, clutch, then gas"blip". took me awhile to understand it, but you're just going to have to feel it or have good timing.
auomauom 8 months ago
Well if i down shift like that i WASTE MORE GAS
thetito626 8 months ago
@thetito626 well no you don't, you're still gonna be in the high rev ranges, but possibly for even longer..
abidingwings 8 months ago
you have da brake hand you asshole idiot
jesussin13 8 months ago
WTF kINDA CAR ARE YOU DRIVING ?!
Tarnjit69 8 months ago
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hermanrules29 8 months ago
@hermanrules29 nice
Tarnjit69 8 months ago
@Tarnjit69 lotus
ContrabandRap 8 months ago
what heel toe shifting do.?(:
Dickhudt44 8 months ago
@Dickhudt44 used more for racing but super useful for defensive driving when it comes to avoiding accidents, saved my ass many times knowing how to do it, learn it
shoobs9390 8 months ago
@Dickhudt44 It helps prevent this: /watch?v=M0tekS8r4qU
;)
l337pwnage 8 months ago
lotus <3
d3v0n2534 8 months ago
is this car a lotus ? it sounds like it and looks like it.
AyashiFX55 9 months ago
@Creamboy209 its not up . when handbrake is up on the lotus it will be nearly 90 degrees to the ground. hop this explains
kieranguitarman1 9 months ago
lol "never downshift to slow down" yeah right :))))
xxxtoxxxandxxx 9 months ago 4
You are ignorant. Several times in this video you did use compression braking. The only thing that you have said to do is rev match. I can agree rev matching is important, but you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
Black95GT 9 months ago
@xtelevisionset to bypass syncros by revmatching, it has to either be no Clutch shift, or double clutch shift, because rhe clutch must engaged to have any effect on spinning the trans input/counter shafts etc Single clutch shifts are almost always going to require the syncro to match the tranny shaft speeds. An I agree that modern trannies are stronger than ever before.
wantapgt 9 months ago
There's not much of a need for double clutch heel and toe anymore in auto racing because the friction surfaces of the syncros are so good nowadays.
wantapgt 9 months ago
@Creamboy209 it's not. He's driving a lotus (I have one) and that is the down position. It is just positioned a little high in the down position.
Cyclonexman 9 months ago
@RezDezMugabi It all depends on technique and how old your car is. Synchronizers are strong enough to completely eliminate double clutching these days. Rev-matching eliminates the need for the synchros just like double clutching. If the engine speed is moving the same speed as the gears you don't even need a clutch, but of course that doesn't really apply to downshifting. Either technique is putting little to no strain on your transmission, clutch, and gears.
xtelevisionset 9 months ago
nice air horn ;)
SPLmonster93 9 months ago 106
@matthewbode15 These race cars are designed to be able to be used without a clutch. Watch Keiichi Tsuchiya race in street cars and observe his clutch technique.
xtelevisionset 9 months ago
@RezDezMugabi Not to mention he is Drift King. He popularized the sport single-handedly in Japan.
xtelevisionset 9 months ago
@RezDezMugabi He's only one of the best race car drivers in the world. And probably the best street car driver in the world. His shifting technique is the standard.
xtelevisionset 9 months ago
@RezDezMugabi Tell that to Keichi Tsuchiya
xtelevisionset 9 months ago
Airhorn because he doesn't have a real horn.
xtelevisionset 9 months ago
What is the benefit of heel toe shifting?
Leviticus2413 9 months ago
Ha..... look at every dirt bike to semi...... a transmission is blown by over loaded such as too much weight or not knowing how to use a clutch...... I could go on forever. Go ask any mechanic and they will tell you the same. A transmission is made to last!!
721069 9 months ago
Whatsup with the air horn?
TanMan855 9 months ago
@matthewbode15 wont be effective on your checkbook man
aj2361 10 months ago
You realize that in the bubble at the beginning of the video you said "This is intended for TRACK..." and then it says "... NEVER downshift on the track during performance driving", right?
sweetlikeADAM 10 months ago
@sweetlikeADAM What he means is, heel-toeing is intended for track use and that you should never jump off the clutch without heel-toeing on a track as it could cause a spin. Two seperate sentences explaining two seperate things. :)
Pac2Man 10 months ago
@sweetlikeADAM I said you never downshift for the purpose of slowing the car down on the track. In other words, you don't use compression braking on the track, as it is uncontrolled and can cause a spin. On the track you use the brakes to slow down. You downshift at the same time (heel-toe) in order to be in the right gear when you get back on the throttle as you exit the turn.
TheDentalWarrior 9 months ago
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@sweetlikeADAM I said you never downshift for the purpose of slowing the car down on the track. In other words, you don't use compression braking on the track, as it is uncontrolled and can cause a spin. On the track you use the brakes to slow down. You downshift at the same time (heel-toe) in order to be in the right gear when you get back on the throttle as you exit the turn.
TheDentalWarrior 9 months ago
@sweetlikeADAM No, it says not to use it to slow down.
xtelevisionset 9 months ago
Elise 111R ?
AJAY606 10 months ago
Nice lotus
catfisher10100 10 months ago
question: do you leave your foot on the gas and accelerate while your other foot is disengaging the clutch? ( rev match ds)
lilmarv08 10 months ago
when I shift fast, the car kind of jerks, but when I let the RPMs drop, it's very smooth. Is it like this in every car? sorry i'm new to manual!
NewGameReleases 10 months ago
@NewGameReleases it won't, when you do it smoothly. the thing is, when shifting fast, you (and no other manual-beginner for that matter) are not as percise with your feet than when shifting slowly. so yeah, it'll get better with practising. but, in the other hand, the car jerking while under heavy acceleration is a great feeling, don't you think? the power being delivered, and a new kick-in-the-ass acceleration, that's pure awesomeness in my opinion :)
codenamecordon 10 months ago
@codenamecordon I love chirping the tires when I shift. Hahahaha.
xtelevisionset 9 months ago
@xtelevisionset I like the kick of the power with good traction a bit more.. but hey, everyone can have their own opinion ;)
codenamecordon 9 months ago
@codenamecordon Chirping tires will NOT slow you down at all compared to taking it easier and not chirping. When you're racing, you want to shift the tranny as fast as possible and get back on the gas as fast as possible. As a result, if you do this fast enough and you're in the lower gears (1-3) you should experience chirping.
xtelevisionset 9 months ago
@xtelevisionset well, I love to have good enough tires (racing slicks for example) to not chirp, even when fast shifting, and flooring it right after the shift (6)
codenamecordon 9 months ago
@matthewbode15 When you're racing, you would burn out the clutch and tranny in no time doing that. Brakes are designed to slow down a car, that's what they're there for.
rylestknuckles 10 months ago
interior reminds me of a ford gt :O
tekneek03 10 months ago
Great video man! Would like to see that double clutching bid when u do it!
2009kdizzle 10 months ago
I learnt to use the one foot on both pedals for very different reasons.. Driving old bangers with no handbrake in a very hilly area, so the only way to do hill starts was with a dextrous right foot! Also driven a few old cars with no tickover, so keeping the engine running whilst coming to a stop needs the heel and toe too.
boo66 10 months ago
nice horn
jimsoccer8 11 months ago
nice air horn?
matthewrockslol22 11 months ago
With some more practice you almost have the hang of it.
laughsatposers 11 months ago
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hey i have a question im bearly learing how to drive stander and my friend has been teaching me but when i asked him about downshifting he said that he doesnt do it.... he just puts the car on neutral and rides the break is that good for the car?? his had his car for some years and hasnt had a problem so someone explain...
MLGSky 11 months ago
I would do heel toe in my car.... but my brake is too sensitive so my whole car lunges forward :[
erikmoua 11 months ago
is this a Lotus Espire?
Valcgo 11 months ago
is heel and toe and double clutching necessary to avoid problems with the transmission when driving on public roads like a normal everyday driver. cause it seems that i get tired of driving manual at times such as traffic it really sucks and to make things even more tiring this seems to be it.
plehdehgame 11 months ago
@plehdehgame double clutching is absolutely useless in modern manual transmition (thanks to sycrols) but heel and toe downshifting can help save your clutch if your doing it properly and if not used for every downshift (example when you need to take a turn in 2nd gear after driving in 5th.... skip from 5th to 2nd without going through all gears in between).... plus heel-toe is hella fun so why not?
moham7ad 11 months ago 26
@moham7ad it also helps reduce the pull or jerk you feel when you downshift and the rpms kick back up because you rev match. heel toe is one of the best techniques for driving stick in my book
act440 6 months ago
@moham7ad If i still rev match in second gear, i don't see why its a problem to go from 5th to 2nd?
KooKooKachoo29 6 months ago
@moham7ad Actually it is not useless. I worn out my syncrodiscs in one year by driving "forest rally". Clutch and shifting techniques save your tranny. Oil sheiks naturally have enough money to order 10 titanium transmissions for their cars :D
NesteHukka2 6 months ago
Thanks for the video. I've been wanting to learn more than the basics for stick shift driving, and this helps.
opethmike 11 months ago
is that a lotus u are driving?
97432561 11 months ago
Pause at 1:54 and then pause at 2:07 The gear stick moves it's self!
Mzege 11 months ago
Why do u have your brake on??
mrmiguelangelgarcia 1 year ago
wat u driving?
beatleboy9020001 1 year ago
why do u have an air horn?
goondip 1 year ago
i dont understand y u r pressing all at the same time
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eleanoquilly 1 year ago
What's the air horn for???
gotomike 1 year ago
its easier i think to double the clutch when downshifting, plus im shit at heel toe, i just cant get the hang of it
mrelderscrollsfan01 1 year ago
@mrelderscrollsfan01 You really need to do both. I can't believe people have posted videos of heel & toe without double clutching. It's painful to watch!
Hezath 11 months ago
@Hezath Not since trhe invention of synchromesh in the mid 20th century.
boo66 10 months ago
@boo66 There is a big operational difference between using synchros and not. People seem to think there is no advantage of double clutching until they actually do it properly, and it makes a lot of sense if you have a good mechanical understanding. If you drive a car with ABS (I don't), do you just press on the pedal as hard as you can every time you want to brake, because the system is designed to cope with the abuse? I know that's not a perfect comparison but it still translates reasonably
Hezath 10 months ago
@alexthelyons, its really just needed on the track. when you rev match, it means that youre in lets say 5th gear and you want to downshift to 4th when slowing down. if you just threw it in fourth, the rpms would jump high and the car may shake. when you rev match, you down shift, but before releasing the clutch, just rev it a little to get the rpms up before driving in the lower gear, makes it smoother.
8thcivicownr 1 year ago
I thought the left foot was only for the clutch pedal..
HIHNickel 1 year ago
Lotus. When there's not pussy in the passenger seat, there's a camera instead. Gotta justify the purchase somehow...
Mr47driver 1 year ago
What's the benefits or actual point of doing this?
I'm only 15 and don't know a great deal on cars, so enlighten me
alexthelyons 1 year ago
where do you have to use that airhorn for? lol
Cubzs 1 year ago
...while not losing precious momentum. If you want to burn up your clutch, then by all means continue to drive like this on your daily commute.
raredesign 1 year ago
@raredesign there is no additional wear and tear on a clutch from "heel & toe down shifting" or rev matching on a shift. You end up using more clutch when you don't rev match on a down shift. Of course RPM makes a difference too, you'll burn up a clutch faster shifting into gears around 6,000rpm and out of gears at 8,200rpm like the Lotus was designed, but for daily driving rev matching is no more or less harmful to the clutch life. I'd almost say it makes it last longer if anything.
ManiacMartin00 1 year ago
@raredesign there is no additional wear and tear on a clutch from "heel & toe down shifting" or rev matching on a shift. You end up using more clutch when you don't rev match on a down shift. Of course RPM makes a difference too, you'll burn up a clutch faster shifting into gears around 6,000rpm and out of gears at 8,200rpm like the Lotus was designed, but for daily driving rev matching is no more or less harmful to the clutch life. I'd almost say it makes it last longer if anything.
ManiacMartin00 1 year ago
..range. I have seen too many people brake from overdrive and leave it like that until they are stopped. What would you do if you had to quickly get out of the way while you were slowing down? If you dumped your clutch and gunned it in a hurry and had forgotten to select a gear, you would either stall the car, or simply just not move quick enough. You certainly do not want to free roll. This video is focusing on track technique for downshifting into your powerband for optimal power application..
raredesign 1 year ago
I don't agree with your statement that downshifting is hard on the transmission. "incorrectly" downshifting is hard on the car in general. When your revs are higher than should be, and your clutch is engaged, the transmission may not even being experiencing peak load, but other parts of the engine may be stressed. If you downshift correctly, there should be no excessive wine if any. Auto tranny's even downshift. To correctly drive on the street, you SHOULD downshift to stay in optimal rpm...
raredesign 1 year ago
i really like your demonstration ! i even did a video myself after watching yours, maybe you like to check it out
TheGetawayer 1 year ago
my grandma has better footwork then you
veiwmaster 1 year ago
Blue Blow horn!!!
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yetty54 1 year ago
Nice lotus, wat kind is it. Exige????
cordogg1 1 year ago
down shift with out rev match wont hurt the transmission it will hurt the clutch and differential so get your facts straight
chriscordrey 1 year ago
is that an air horn lol
zach25100 1 year ago
I got a question and forgive me I'm new to driving (16 year old) and I just learned how to drive stick.
Would there be any more or less wear and tear if instead say I'm coming to a stop and I just shift to neutral and brake to the stop? Or say I'm coming across a corner and I go into neutral, turn the corner, and then shift into 2nd.
Or is that what's called double-clutching? Pardon my ignorance. I just got my license. Please and thank youuuu.
Logster505 1 year ago
okay, one question: in videos i always see the following: break & clutch & downshift, gas impulse while braking, and releasing the clutch and then the brake. when i read about it, i always read that you gotta break, clutch, go neutral, gas impulse, downshift and so on, but all the articles say its heel toe downshifting, but aint it double clutch downshifting?
HuhnK0t 1 year ago
so... what's the point of heel toe? Aren't my brakes good enough? My car is also FF, so i won't really matter would it?
CRIMSONxFROST 1 year ago
@CRIMSONxFROST in normal traffic the only point i see in this is that you can let your engine howl while slowing down. lets say a girl wants to cross the road in front of you, just coming to a halt while shifting through gears will get you some attention ;). so either you find that useful or not... its to show off, simple as that
zimThuet 1 year ago
@zimThuet haha, right. It's good in racing to save your clutch as I found out, but in traffic isnt as important ^^.
CRIMSONxFROST 1 year ago
He doesnt need this car. What he is doing isnt double clutching. Its matching engine revs with the transmission. Learn your shit before you make a video. When he "double clutched" he hit the clutch once and then mashed on the gas, thats matching revs not double clutching. Idiot
civic0412 1 year ago
So why so much buck and less bang this car is the pocket rocket of roadsters. I feel claustrophobic just looking in the front of this thing
stopaulo3376 1 year ago
smiple point for u guys : if u r on any gear...and u wanna race, just down shift and ur rpm will go high (now u r ready to race)
ganee6a 1 year ago
pussy driver! ! !.. what is this man :X:X:X
Donigg 1 year ago
your shit!
aidzymang 1 year ago
I want an Elise.
danthemanpatrick 1 year ago
wow haha my dad said that too about down shifting, because in drivers ed they said to always down shift to slow down, my dad said "driver's ed instructors didn't know sh*t and instead of teaching standard keep teaching automatic since it requires no brain"
AdamMoss13 1 year ago