Still a good training tool. More! And whosoever mehmeh has challenged, youtube it. A training tool is a training tool.
We've found a wonderful training venue for ALL fencers: the beginner, as well as the 'elite'. The sabre rattling of the replies also provide some somic relief! Good job.
im not trying to Bash ur ideas, in my opinion, ur focusing too much on HOW the fencers perform their actions, and not on WHAT actions they do after the other. in other words, a good fencer plans what he/she does based on the previous point...
you are only pointing out good techniques from fencers. to proove it to you..MONTANO's so called "trample attack" (as u like to call it) is EXACTLY the same thing in what u described in this video..sloow preperation then fast attack..
They aren't the same thing at all- even if you can't see the difference between each fencer's preparations and actions, the most telling difference is actually seen by watching the opponent. A key difference is in the amount of ground lost on the strip (by the defender), the distance between the fencers when the moment happens, and the way the defender is allowed to collapse or break distance. I am sorry that you don't see any more here than what's on the surface- these videos are pretty good.
no offense bro, ur new clips are dumb.. It's called good technique... Fencers plan actions, and anticipate the actions of their opponents.. planning on when take slow/small steps, accelerated lunge, all that bullcrap should be done with no effort NOR thinking..
you think no thinking should be involved or no thinking is involved? i worked with jason on this video and i think he would disagree with you. where are you on the points list btw? what he is doing got him 3rd in the olympic season. trust me there is at least as much thinking here as there is in chess
no no, that's not what i meant.. my point was, doing small steps while the distance is small, or accelerating when the distance is good, or making an attack miss on a attack on prep is all things to work on ur technique, foot work, endurace....
however, i was aruging that u are talking about theses things as if its the way to win matches...where in fact, planning actions, and anticipating ur opponents actions (display the line, wait until opponent reacts, pull away and make miss, and finish) is what wins matches...do u see my point of view??
haha i think we are, in fact, arguing the same thing. i tried to put the gaming aspect into the video but if you dont see it then i am not doing a good job. will be better about it in the next video
@CyrusofChaos yes, i agree... when i started fencing last year, i didnt plan out what attacks i was going to do, but now i take notes of the other fencers and so i would know what to do....you def. have to think it out if you wanna go in the state champ. your videos is what got me into state...thank you, keep on posting! :)
youtube keeps track of what you people decide to watch after you are done watching this video. since it doesnt have enough information to do that it just puts stuff there that has a similar name to the video. youll notice that nearly every one has rogers in the name. once the video gets more hits and people start watching fencing related videos afterwards, the related hits will be replaced with the videos that people watch the most. pretty cool eh?
GOD Why the fuck fencers do videos like these?! i'm not doing these and i'm doing nice in fencing without these...
mannuli 8 months ago
very good analysis, you obviously understand the game well
AZ1471 1 year ago
really good analysis man
schokoprinz 1 year ago
Still a good training tool. More! And whosoever mehmeh has challenged, youtube it. A training tool is a training tool.
We've found a wonderful training venue for ALL fencers: the beginner, as well as the 'elite'. The sabre rattling of the replies also provide some somic relief! Good job.
(From Wyoming)
Scharppslicer 2 years ago
I'm an epeeist but I absolutely LOVE these analyzing videos. Thank you so much for your time and effort.
trueflipmode 2 years ago
These are great and really helpful. It is interesting to contrast what he is doing and what Montano is doing in his trample. Very, very helpful.
My only question is about the music. I like it, but I almost find it distracting from being able to see the action. But maybe that is just me.
pantarch 2 years ago
im not trying to Bash ur ideas, in my opinion, ur focusing too much on HOW the fencers perform their actions, and not on WHAT actions they do after the other. in other words, a good fencer plans what he/she does based on the previous point...
you are only pointing out good techniques from fencers. to proove it to you..MONTANO's so called "trample attack" (as u like to call it) is EXACTLY the same thing in what u described in this video..sloow preperation then fast attack..
mehmeh2121 2 years ago
They aren't the same thing at all- even if you can't see the difference between each fencer's preparations and actions, the most telling difference is actually seen by watching the opponent. A key difference is in the amount of ground lost on the strip (by the defender), the distance between the fencers when the moment happens, and the way the defender is allowed to collapse or break distance. I am sorry that you don't see any more here than what's on the surface- these videos are pretty good.
sdfencing 2 years ago
omg okay wat ever... it doesn't even matter anymore, one day ill see you on the strip
your very good health.
mehmeh2121 2 years ago
no offense bro, ur new clips are dumb.. It's called good technique... Fencers plan actions, and anticipate the actions of their opponents.. planning on when take slow/small steps, accelerated lunge, all that bullcrap should be done with no effort NOR thinking..
mehmeh2121 2 years ago
you think no thinking should be involved or no thinking is involved? i worked with jason on this video and i think he would disagree with you. where are you on the points list btw? what he is doing got him 3rd in the olympic season. trust me there is at least as much thinking here as there is in chess
CyrusofChaos 2 years ago
no no, that's not what i meant.. my point was, doing small steps while the distance is small, or accelerating when the distance is good, or making an attack miss on a attack on prep is all things to work on ur technique, foot work, endurace....
mehmeh2121 2 years ago
however, i was aruging that u are talking about theses things as if its the way to win matches...where in fact, planning actions, and anticipating ur opponents actions (display the line, wait until opponent reacts, pull away and make miss, and finish) is what wins matches...do u see my point of view??
mehmeh2121 2 years ago
haha i think we are, in fact, arguing the same thing. i tried to put the gaming aspect into the video but if you dont see it then i am not doing a good job. will be better about it in the next video
CyrusofChaos 2 years ago
@CyrusofChaos yes, i agree... when i started fencing last year, i didnt plan out what attacks i was going to do, but now i take notes of the other fencers and so i would know what to do....you def. have to think it out if you wanna go in the state champ. your videos is what got me into state...thank you, keep on posting! :)
danielhinton13579 1 year ago
@CyrusofChaos I agree with you, its just fast thinking / Gambling on the way your attack is released !
hamrite 1 week ago
Nice analysis of things. All of your videos are excellent. Is it possible to see one for foil in the near future?
Fencernoh42 2 years ago
why do all the related videos have nothing to do with fencing? lol
epeemstr316 2 years ago
youtube keeps track of what you people decide to watch after you are done watching this video. since it doesnt have enough information to do that it just puts stuff there that has a similar name to the video. youll notice that nearly every one has rogers in the name. once the video gets more hits and people start watching fencing related videos afterwards, the related hits will be replaced with the videos that people watch the most. pretty cool eh?
CyrusofChaos 2 years ago
his attacks are very nice but when it actually comes to performing them under pressure.
Just watch the bout with him and kieth. But well done video! quite helpful
caoren28 2 years ago
Thanks. Very helpful. Jason and I have similar body types/ styles so this was very useful/
bebobobalu 2 years ago 2