WELL LETS SEE.......CLONING HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE GOD TOOK A RIB A CREATED WOMEN......SO, YOU KNUCKEL HEAD JUST LIKE A PURE BREED THERE IS A MUT???????
Only a fool says there is no God and Jesus says He Himself is The Way The Truth and The Life. Joe doesn't care about Noah he just wants to live how he wants. He deliberately ignores his own conscience as ALL men do who do not Fear God. But his words will be a witness against him on Judgment Day when he will answer for every one. He may mock today but he will not before God.
@RandinoTheWizard unicorns are not real? Prove it. . You clearly didn't understand my point and probably never will. Are you a Troll or moron? Your next reply with decide.
@RandinoTheWizard Not my burden to prove, its yours and so far no one has ever proven ANY god.This is known as the burden of proof, try to learn some logic.
Proving something doesn't exists is almost impossible, you are either ignorant or dishonest, is this the fullness of the truth I can find in the bible and the people who Believe in it?
@stclax11 Faith is also how you end up getting lied to as well, believing in something with out evidence or reasoning.You people are told from birth that god is real and you never take an honest look at why you believe.The stories dont add up and if you check deeper into history you find out most of it was made up along the way and they even copied other stories from older religions. Hell if you read it critically it becomes obvious its all a lie based on the morality alone.
@OnlyJesusSaves You might want to go back and read the part where Jesus says "judge not lest you be judged". Cause you sure are judgin the shit out of joe.
>"Only a fool says there is no God and Jesus says He Himself is The Way The Truth and The Life"
....aaaaand Mohammed said that there is no God but Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet.
Oh....you don't care what other peoples scriptures say?
Guess what...if other people can't use their scriptures to prove the veracity of their scriptures....then why should we take it seriously when the Bible Says the Bible is True?
i honestly cannot take anyone serious if they believe any part of the religious stories. it BLOWS MY MIND that people believe it. but then again people like to believe that they have a higher purpose and that someone's looking out for them.. yeah that's why there's so much corruption and horrendous things that happening in this world. actions have consequences WOW huge concept
If you fools want to know about the account of Noah and the flood, for sure don't go to this clown. He got things in mixed order to say the least. Read Genesis for yourself or ask a fundamental Christian.
The story of Noah's Ark is pretty stupid, but what pushes it over the top is that some believe that the ark also included dinosaurs. And not some fringe minority, but top-brass, respectable (however much weight that has in context) Christians like Ken Ham and the Answers in Genesis lot who espouse this without flinching.
Crap like this is why Christians are laughed at. It has nothing to do with hating the "truth"; it's amazement that people so willingly swallow this unbelievable bullshit.
Atheists are funny guys. They don't believe the Bible but they do believe everything was created by nothing. That the complex human body, animals, stars, planets, universal laws etc are all random chance, even though it's so complex we have no idea how to even make something as simple as a cow out of nothing. Listen to Joe, he claims to have seen inter-dimensional energy beings and all this stuff, but you guys don't have a problem with that because that story doesn't make you submit to God.
@Kinosis79 "They don't believe the Bible but they do believe everything was created by nothing"
yet you beleive god came from nothing ? lol.
watch lawrence krauss "a universe from nothing" for a scientific explanation of how it could have happened. i'll go with this, you can go with the magic man who appeared from no where and created things our of this air , lol.. its hilarious that you accuse of us saying things came from nothing yet its only theists who believe this about their god.
>"They don't believe the Bible but they do believe everything was created by nothing."
*Sigh*
No...that's what /CREATIONISTS/ believe. "Creation Ex Nihilo" is a theistic concept. If you doubt it, ask yourself this question "What pre-existing matter Did God make the universe out of and where did this matter come from?"
Scientists don't assert, based on whim, that "everything came from nothing" because if they did, they'd be obliged to prove it.
@UKatheist-1)Theres still air at that altitude,&with that much h20,you might have a different atmosphere.2)In the sea.the land floded, not the sea.3)His sons wives were different races.4)FOOD.5)again,FOOD.6)There are vegetarian lions to this day,I believe they also ate vegetarian.7)few dinosaurs survived,they were not on the ark.8)God is in charge, he told the animals. It doesnt say they got EVERY species on board either. look at the vid april2010 noahs ark discovery,theres plenty of room there.
The sad thing here is that Rogan, nor most people realize that you cant dismiss stories, that have several historians of those times confirming & in aggreement. Such as Josephus,Berosus of Chaldean,Heironymus the Egyptian,& Nicholas of Damascus, just to name a few. To assume these historians, known for historical accuracy, from different times, to be non existant & fairey tale, is absurd & illogical. So if Rogan is your teacher, than you'll only be that ignorant, which is your choice, not truth
@2skullscrushing I would absolutely love it if you would kindly give the sources for the documentation for where any of those historians confirm the Noahs Ark story. They didn't
@theUKatheist Berosus speaks on the circumstances of the flood, & alsothe ark,"It is said there is still some part of this ship in Armenia.....". Hieronymus the Egyptin, in The phoenician antiquities mentions the same, & mnaseas mentions the same in his antiquities.Nocholas Damascus in his 96th book,"there is a great mountain in Armenia....&that the remains of the Timber were a great while preserved. Joshephus,Jewish antiquities book 1 chapter 3:5-6. From now on do your own research.
@theUKatheist Dude, I'm sorry I can only give you the sources, with only 500 letters, I'm not going to rewrite it all for you. You need to look up the quotes I gave, and its described in those passages. Not to mention the fact that every geographical area with inhabitants in the ancient past have global flood stories.heres there :epic of gilamesh,atrahasis, & noah. All written,& agreed on 1 flood,1 boat, saving few people.The odds in science rely heavy on probability,applied here would=probable.
@2skullscrushing sorry but im afraid you were wrong, its been agreed that IF a flood took place it was NOT global. only in that area, there is not a shred of evidence from any other part of the world for a flood at that time. not to mention the MANY fallacies in that ridiculous story. if you do not know them i suggest looking. the story is impossible, its ridiculous, only a buffoon would believe it.
@theUKatheist Ya, wheres your source? Theres only a few junk scientists that have favored the opinion, but have NEVER proven anything. I guess the entire fossil layer got there by magic? or evolution?
Josephus: Testimonium Flavianum is most likely not authentic in its entirety
It has been suggested that part or all of the passage may have been Christian apologist and historian Eusebius' own invention, in order to provide an outside Jewish authority for the life of Christ.
@2skullscrushing In 1498, an official of Pope Alexander VI named Annius of Viterbo claimed to have discovered lost books of Berossus. These were in fact an elaborate forgery. However, they gained great influence over Renaissance ways of thinking about population and migration, because Annius provided a list of kings from Japhet onwards, filling a historical gap following the Biblical account of the Flood.
ancient Hebrew Now shows it has NOT changed since its beginning. And that the numerology of it was discovered much later & was secondary.Ancient hebrew is the same as pheonetic, sandskrit script, because it uses pictures letters & word descriptions. Its known now that they all stemmed from one basic origin. Joe Rogan's speculations & assumptions are just that. He's definitely the guy I'm going to get my factual truth from. what a joke.
i know some ppl are going to probably get mad at me for saying this..... but if richard dawkins was a UFC or MMA fighter instead of a evolutionary biolgist, he'd be joe rogan.
people still actually believe this shit!!!!!! hahahahahahaha!!! iwas 8 when i seen it was bs. there 16000 to 18000 species discovered each year!?!??!?! did noah go forward in time and bring the animals back
People that try to convince me that the Noah's ark story is real, and that Jonah really lived inside a whale for three days MAKE ME WANT TO CHOKE THEM!!! That's why I'm watching YouTube videos, so I can watch the pros unload on them with reason, instead of fists.
according to most christians, god created man in his image. so if he wiped out the very creatures he invented in his image, than that means god is one ugly mofo inside.
Noah didn't build a boat, he built an ark. Ark means box(like the ark of the covenant). If you want to take the story literally you can't say Noah built a boat.
That is a simple, yet outstanding point. All the times I've heard people talk of numerous cultures having the same near extinction flood story, and that never came to mind.
Don't even humour people who believe in the Noah's ark story - it's so preposterous and infantile that it doesn't merit further discussion. If you believe it actually happened, you forfeit your right to be accepted as part of modern society.
@timchilli Yet, in april of 2010 on the far eastern side of Turkey by the border of armenia, at 13,000 feet, on a summit of a mountain called little ararat, was found an embedded structure matching the measurements of the biblical ark. Evidence of food,water storage, animal pens,rope,etc were found. all documented on video.Carbon dating matches biblical timeline. On a mountain with NO wood. Its 4 stories high. Nevermind the bible story, explain its existance, & survival,buried under debri's.
@2skullscrushing Your comment is, frankly, embarrassing. Firstly, the entire 2010 "discovery" was a hoax (search for "PaleoBabble Noah's Ark Update"). Secondly, you ACTUALLY believe the flood took place. In spite of the insurmountable evidence to the contrary, you believe in this fable? I mean no undue disrespect, but you are an embarrassment to the human race if you don't question the veracity of this story.
@timchilli Based on what? your analysis? What contrary proof? That hoax has already been debunked. And I would say the entire silt layer full of ocean,sea based life, in the shale layer that exists aropund the world has proven as always, that there was a global flood. Which is documented world wide & the only contrary idea is that this happened millions of years ago is a non provable theory, so just who is being gullible. I have a discover & the earth, you have man & theories. Ya, your correct?
@2skullscrushing I mean this sincerely: your ignorance is astounding. I'm actually impressed that you can hold on to such a primitive tale with such enthusiasm. Your level of self-delusion is remarkable. Children have the capacity to recognise that the Ark story is fictional, yet here you are - a grown adult, claiming it to have actually happened. Read more, think more.
@timchilli Clearly your just a douche. You can skip the question of what it is on that mountain, & you can skip the many ancient accurate historians that spoke of the boat being there as well. Where is your proof its a fairy tale? Just because? or because you believe a theory backed with no proof also? is that why you believe its just a simple thing to dismiss? Condemnation without investigation is the highest form of ignorance, yet you believe evolution without any supporting fossil evidence.
@2skullscrushing, I could spend some time showing you how ignorant and uninformed you are if you were remotely interested in being reasonable, but debating with you is like playing chess with a pigeon - no matter how good I am at chess, you will knock over all the pieces, shit on the chessboard and strut around as though you were victorious.
@timchilli I wish you could spend time explaining the object on the mountain, and all written accounts that verify its location, but your like all atheists, only good at mocking and personal attacks. People like you also mock the exodus, yet there is mass amounts of physical proof at Jebel al lawz, named in arabic,"the mountail of the law" in ancient times. You atheists never have proof, and scoff at real proof. such as first hand written witness accounts.
@timchilli ya, since you have no logical answers to refute the original question as to what is up on that mountain, & why it matches all the writings describing it being there, its size shape,etc.
That's how science works, if new data is discovered that doesn't support a specific theory, then the theory either has to be revised or rejected completely, and a new theory that better explains the evidence is formulated to take it's place.
Science is self correcting and non dogmatic, that's why it has taken us so far in such a short space of time.
Religion has kept us shackled in darkness, bound to superstition, ignorance and myth for centuries, It's days are numbered.
@AndyCielecki Sure, & anyone that confuses science, with religious belief, is surely ignorant, Because God,Yashua & truth , have NOTHING to do with mans belief systems. This is why your one sided views are damning to you, because you fail to do enough research to even get past Dogma & religous traditions.There isnt one prophet or verse that condones, supports, or promotes ANY religous belief. Your so intelligent, i'm sure you could point that out for me.
@timchilli & this is not debate. I mentioned a discovery that has been verified, & you only talked using propaganda techniques, never actually addressing my original questions. Your atheistic reasoning is not a factual answer, its just an arrogant assumption that because without fact you believe what you believe, you would never look at any REAL artifacts or REAL proof, because your blinded by a theory, that has NEVER yielded proof. instead,imagination, you make up stories of me playing chess?
@2skullscrushing I should've known! Top marks to you. Anyone who deftly uses "ad hominid" instead of "ad hominem" is an elite troll. Well played, sir.
@AndyCielecki Ya, it works every time. Paid trolls, fall for that trick. I lead them to believe I know nothing of those propaganda practices, & by calling me on my error, they at the least admit they are aware of their argument tactic, which is to distract, and shift away from the points they fail to answer. Ya, its Irony alright.
@AndyCielecki Evolution denier. HA HA HA. you cant deny something that has NEVER been proven. accepted theory is not proof of anything, especially when its only a small science community, verses everyone else in the world, which has not been decided as of yet.People like you actually give science big credit , when the reality is that it hasnt done anything for us, that wasnt already here beforehand.They arent curing anything, nor are they solving problems. If you believe otherwise,your settling.
@AndyCielecki Because I'm a human. I care about my brethren. I would never throw them under a bus because of what they believe. But your so upside down, you really have no PROOF for any of that evolution stuff, because again, theory is just that. re defining it doesnt make it factual. However where the bible is concerned, there are physical places, people, events. Some with tangible hand held artifacts. Again, the odds are way higher that its all true, but the odds of evolution, are very slim.
In fact there is such a preponderance of evidence to support the ToE it's actually difficult to know where to begin, but It would of course be pointless providing it to a closed mind that prefers bronze age mythology.
As to the bible being true, the same arguments hold for the Torah, Vedas, Qu'ran, Book of Shadows, or the Gospel of The Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Why is your book so special, and why does history conflict with biblical account..oh yeah Satan done it.
@AndyCielecki History doesnt. only evolution theory does. The word History comes from HIS STORY aka God. Everything we knew about Egypt first, came from the bible. same with early babelonian empires,Sumer,UR. The names of the cities/locations.Eithiopia Queens, Perzian Kings & their empires.Jericho, its location, history & downfall. All proven historically accurate. The Satan isnt a being, its a discription of the enemy. Lucifer is probably what your looking for.you criticize much but know little
Sorry History : Greek - historia, meaning "inquiry, knowledge acquired by investigation, you know like science.
So god is male? that explains why misogyny is rife in the bible.
Your saying the bible is historically accurate and consistent with no contradictions?
As for Satan or Lucifer I wish the Christians would decide which one they prefer, it might as well be Bert n Ernie as far as I'm concerned they're equally as real, well actually Bert n Ernie have the edge there.
That there is mention of real places in the bible and historic figures is no more proof that god exists, any more than Marvell comics are proof Spider-man is real.
Can you tell me when the new testament was written and who the authors were..and which bible you think is the definitive account?
@timchilli Its no different than the idea that we came from monkeys, yet you identify with that perfectly.And Tim hutchins agree's we came from a higher power in the end of all of his speculative guess work, but you guys never admit to that. It was an interview with Ben Stien, look it up.
@2skullscrushing, you're a credit to religion - unthinking and unquestioning of your own faith, obstinate, recalcitrant and willfully ignorant. I could demonstrate exactly how evolution works, and why it has scientific consensus, but there's simply no point, since you don't want to think for yourself. I predict you'll give me the usual "no, YOU'RE ignorant" chat in reply, but the truth is here for all to see.
@timchilli See, your observation skills & ability to understand what you read is amazing. Let me spell it out. You have had every opportunity to spread yopur facts about any topic here. I've seen nothing. I mentioned tangible things, with testemony to back the facts of the TRUTH of those matters. you barely even mention loosly, the THEORY of your belief. Real facts & truth are what matter, not youre insistance, that your right. You have to have proof, not theory.the bible has,fact,proof & truth.
@2skullscrushing Real facts and truth are what matter - I wholeheartedly agree. However, you think that tales from the bible is factual and the fantasy world inside your head is the truth. This is where you and the rest of the free-thinknig world part company.
I cannot discuss anything rational with you if you do not understand that bible verses and your unsubstantiated, subjective thoughts DO NOT CONSTITUTE EVIDENCE.
Ask them if they found 2 kangaroo fossils on the mountain right next to the camal fossils and between the polar bear and penguin fossils within feet of each other. I'd find that pretty amazing if that actually happened.
@dennisbernard11 Link to what evidence? Links to what Joe's talking about, or links to what the pseudo-archaeologist is talking about? Or maybe both?
I say neither since there's simply no possible way the wannabe is going to be right about any of it. The story is simply absurd and will never prove true, because it's impossible, period.
In Joe's case, finding and linking the points of both sides is patently a total waste of time. The whole thing just isn't worth it.
People of the time had no friggin idea how large the earth was or how many species of animals and plants there were. This is a story most likely based on major localized flooding as some point and certainly not worldwide. Of couse if you want to belive the bible, just shows how evil god can be.
@CerebrumPedere Especially considering there isn't enough water in Earth's hydrographic system to cover more than maybe 90% of the surface of that time period...and that would require the atmosphere become hyper-arid and all land-locked ice melts completely.
And there were cultures/nations of that age that did have a much better idea of the world's size, but took such stories metaphorically only. It was only the massively ignorant nomadic peoples who really believed them.
@Yourjoking999 "If anyone tells me that these sci.evidences arenot evidences,my response is: You're an indenialist liar."
so basically if we disagree,we are wrong? lol. what a silly thing to say. so you are right by default then yeah?
how about you bring your head from out thy ass and come back to a civil level; of discussion where we can assume that either of us could be wrong. sound fair?
now instead of just posting websites ( which i can do too ) why dont you give us your best 2 arguments?
@theUKatheist Again you manipulate my words. Disagreeing with me is not a problem, telling me that there's ZERO evidence for a worlwide flood is just lidicrous in light of even the few links I provided. Then you talk about "Fair"??? You removed 20 of my comments which blew Rogan's foolishness from the map, you distort what I say, you don't give proper attention to the links, & I'm suppose to go do your homework as well. I even did that!
@outofthebox7 1 - 25 comments is spam.. 2 - I didn't read them, I glanced as deleting and I've heard them all before. 3 - fine, but why? .. 4 - you honestly think he will reply? Seriously? .. 5 - yes,I could have removed them all but wanted to show the amount you did by keeping the numbers there. I don't care if you feel free, I don't allow spam.
This is not a discussion, this is going back to talking about your spamming, not the video content, as I said I will discuss/ debate with you on it.
@theUKatheist 3 - What do you mean "but why?" Cause their stupid and people are misinformed by him, I made that clear in my posts. 4 - Who said he will reply?? I didn't. You make it sound so though. I said he could if he wants to, in response to you saying "(HE) CANNOT REPLY BACK". After what you did, I have nothing to say (...), THE END. You can have the last word.
@outofthebox7 "Cause their stupid and people are misinformed by him"
in your opinion, just asserting things doesnt make them true im afraid.
"You can have the last word."
thank you sooo much! so i offer to discuss the points you made, one on one and you run away? again proving that all you intended to do was reply by spamming and running off. there was no discussion in mind when writing those, thus they are spam.
again i offer you the chance to discuss it with someone who will actually answer
@theUKatheist I shouldn't be responding to this,but I'll humor it.You want "actual historical,archaelogical or scientific proof" of the details of an event that happened 4.5 thousand years ago??Isn't this laughable?Regardless, logic and the Scripture account can show to an honest person thatthe eventwas feasible,possible,he just has to fill in some gaps as you would in anyother story of that time.--Scientific evidence for a world wide flood is all over the internet;btw it'snotRogan's topic here.
@Yourjoking999 "You want "actual historical,archaelogical or scientific proof" of the details of an event that happened 4.5 thousand years ago??Isn't this laughable?"
no, how do you think we know about the ancient Egyptians and Greeks? how do you think we know they had gladiators and stadiums? historical evidence.
also dinosours are MILLIONS of years old a, we have evidence for what they ate, how they lived and how they hunted. you thinking that evidence should not exist is "laughable"
@theUKatheist Again, you're not listening. I said "details of an event"(sticking to the video / not proof of the event itself), something that has NOTHING TO DO with ancient Egyptians,Greeks etc. Again, what is laughable is the way you perceive my logical comments.
so to summarise yes there should be proof , to think there wouldn't be for such huge historical events is foolish.
"Scientific evidence for a world wide flood is all over the internet"
there is absolutely ZERO evidence for a worldwide flood my friend, the sources you got that from is likely Christian bias. how about ACTUAL evidence not websites SAYING it happened?? do you just believe anything you see on line which supports your view?? :-/
@theUKatheist Who said there shouldn't be evidence for huge historical events, I mean, the mere fact that so many ancient accounts exist referring to a world flood is enough. Other than that I provided very much evidence in my next message, which of course you being in denial, like all atheists, should not see as evidence. So yes, as I said, my response, based on -as I expected- your frivolous remark ("ZERO evidence"&"Christian bias") is: YOU'RE AN INDENIALIST LIAR. So, hate yourself, not me.
@Yourjoking999 "the mere fact that so many ancient accounts exist referring to a world flood is enough"
again you failed to provide evidence of this. i mean real evidence, not made up creationist bullshit. its like you dont even realise how retarded some of the things you say really are.
im not in denial, that suggests that what you imply makes sense, please show evidence of a worldwide flood. also please prove that its linked to the noah story.
PS i asked you for 2 of your best bits of evidence, you havent given any, also the person who did 25+ comments of spam was a different user name, but it looks like ou used your other account then, why exactly do you have more than one account?
again provide YOUR 2 best pieces of evidence instead of just linking websites, creationist websites are MICROSCOPIC compared to actual science websites.
use your brain and TELL ME what YOU think is good evidence for the flood.
@theUKatheist What you think of me,has to do with your level of ignorance.
-I usually use one account for exposing martial artists’ nonsense, &the other usually for religious issues.Sometimes I forget to change accounts.
-I already gave you so many evidences that you have not dealt with. You on the other hand, provided no proof against Noah's flood, where is YOUR proof, TELL ME. Put my comments back for the people to read and respond to, or, even better remove this trashy misinforming video.
@Yourjoking999 you understand the difference between evidence for your view and rationalizing , right? Obviously not.
You provided no proof.
Where is my proof? Of what? I'm not claiming that something impossible happened.
I can't put back comments once deleted, I told you 25 comments in a row is spam and unacceptable. If you feel you need to reply do a video, don't spam my comments section.
Everything on the websites you provided have been scientifically PROVEN WRONG. Now what?
@theUKatheist Evidence for what??This is well known!1)Evidence:
h t t p : / / w w w . nwcreation. n et / articles/ ancientsknew. h t m l
h t t p : / / w w w . nwcreation. net / noahlegends. h t m l
2) I have NO REASON not to believe that the above accounts-if your read especially the details of some of them-go back to Noah.Neither do you!I find the Biblical account reasonable.If you don't,then it's just your word,against mine.
If you don't put my 20 comments back, converstation is over.
no , its not just you vs me, its the vast majority of historians, archaeologist and scientists vs creationists. If you hadn't noticed the creationists lose.
i have already seen the articles on that website and they are utter bullshit, they lack knowledge of basic science as that is the only way to make the story appear true.
sorry but the rationalization and scientific understanding of a creationists is LAUGHABLE!
"If you don't put my 20 comments back, converstation is over."
no loss to me, i dont allow spam, i told you that
that is your way of getting out of answering my simple question, i asked you to give me 2 pieces of evidence YOU find the best to support it, you dont give me anything apart from website links to bullshit that has been dubunked A BILLION TIMES.
the arguments from these sites are based on VERY bad science .
you have nothing but strawman arguments and ignorance.
@Yourjoking999 thirdly if you dont reply with 2 arguments then yes the conversation is over because as i suspected you dont know what you are talking about.
type what you think is proof. its not difficult. do you even know the MANY MANY reasons why its scientifically impossible that Noah's ark is true?
the replies to these which creationists use to rationalize them are ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.
so please, feel free to stop replying, you have nothing and your ignorance is frustrating.
@theUKatheist And I have to add to this, why shouldn't I or anyone talk about atheist bias, like the kind the video you provide is filled with?? Be sincere and take this video down. You owe it... to yourself!
@Yourjoking999 "why shouldn't I or anyone talk about atheist bias,"
because there is no such thing, atheists simply dont believe in god and do not follow religion. how are we bias? we treat every religion as equal bullshit. supporting science and EVIDENCE is not bias, its smart.
again all you are doing here is asserting you are correct without giving reason, there is no evidence for a worldwide flood, even if there was you cant prove it has anything to do with noahs flood.
@Yourjoking999 your done here, sorry but i cant take you seriously, anyone who believes that noahs ark is possible is rather a liar or a complete moron. you may be both.
this conversation is over, i asked SEVERAL times for 2 pieces of your best evidence and you provide nothing, you have nothing, you will always have nothing. creationists have less knowledge of basic science than a 4 year old child. watch "why we laugh at creationists" by thunderfoot.
1# The problem with Bible haters is that they do not know the Personality of God hence do not understand His ways,the way we Christians have come to understand them.This of course, they can’t believe. So they fill in the gaps, instigated by deception and hate.That being said, let’s see the arrogance and ignorance of his mistakes. Read comments downwards.
@outofthebox7 DO NOT SPAM MY VIDEOS ! Do this again and you will be blocked. Over 20 comments of spam without reply is unacceptable. There will be no more warnings. Do NOT spam again.
@theUKatheist You call "20 comments".. "of spam"(?), answering all of Rogan's nonsense? You should be happy I put in the time to deal with your video.
"Unacceptable"??
My posts are there, so people can reply to them if they want. I just now posted them. Was I supposed to reply to the them lol. So who's stopping them from replying? Or is it that you are bothered by the fact someone refuted your video. Real democratic and truth-loving of you. Peace. -We're all tested by the way.
@outofthebox7 yes of course 25 comments is spam. Stop spamming, if you want debate or discussion I'm happy too but we cover 1 or 2 points at a time NOT 25! That is unacceptable!
I'm not bothered by your "facts" i didn't even read them. I HATE spammers.
The were to many assertions and too many points you made to reply too, all being absolute nonsense, rationalizations and pure opinion plus YOU WERE REPLYING TO JOE WHO CANNOT REPLY BACK. If you want discussion do it right please
2# 00:28 “Instead of telling them what they were doing wrong”…. 00:31 “He only told one man.”
----Bottom line is,God is not obliged to tell any one what “they are doing wrong” before destroying them, when He already a) knows they know what they are doing wrong, b) that they will not repent no matter what.
@outofthebox7 25 comments without reply is beyond a joke. Spamming will not make people read it will make them ignore you and think you to be a fool. If you cannot wait for a response for one or two comments then you have issues. But 25 is taking the piss. They will be removed and you will limit your comments and wait for replies. This is NOT acceptable!
@theUKatheist Really???? If you remove them, it says alot about you and how much you serve truth. My friendly advice is to be calm and think about it. Sometimes we regret quick actions. But, it's your game, I know...
@outofthebox7 if your comments were atheist I would still remove them, spamming is unacceptable by anyone. 25 comments in a row IS SPAM. Like I said if you want discussion I'm happy to but you don't get to make that many assertions before a reply, that is not how it works, that is simply dictating your opinion . You understand?
Joe cannot reply, you know this. I can, but I will not go through 25 comments and going back and forth like that, ridiculous. Feel free to start discussion
@theUKatheist1)Nothing stopped you or anyone from choosing“1 or 2 points”to discuss.2)You say you “didn’t even read” my posts&then say about them “all being absolute nonsense,rationalizations & pure opinion”.That makes sense. : ) 3)I was commenting on what Rogan said,in third person,for the readers,not REPLYING TO JOE ROGAN(other than once)!!!4)Besides,Rogan can reply if he wanted,so this“CANNOT REPLY”is not true.5)You removed20out of my 25comments.Yeah I "feel free". Be happy with yourself.
17#2:20 (what did animal eat for 40 days)“…since animal like to eat other animals…”
-----First of all, the animals were being fed.We are told that God ordered Noah to bring on boat food for them. Case closed. Secondly it doesn't take much to figure out that the animals were logically separated in some way.
On the other hand (although not needed) God could have slowed down their metabolism. Maybe all the animals were young in age (hence size).
@jknightxx I didn't miss the point. I replied to it. You missed my point. God told Noah to bring food on board. Logic says a) they probably ate of clean animals, there's even a chance b) there weren't any carnivorous animals back then. G***le &research both. Please don't just make comments without dong some simple research. I you patiently do your research, you will find reasonable answers.
18#-I know I am giving you logical and simple explanations, that’s why anyone denying them as a possibility, to me is in-denial. That’s all, irrationally in-denial; that’s why I call most atheist “indenialists”.
We are not given all the details but you think God was not able to figure it out? And you, Joe Rogan are smarter? Please, stick to being a comedian, but a logical one at that.
@outofthebox7 see here is why people get frustrated with theists,you supsend all logic,everything we know about animals,the fact there no way he could build a boat to house every species of animal,suspend the fact that animals would have to come from everypart of the globe to get onthis boat,witch would take forever,and just GOd did it with magic.
@jknightxx No,what I see is why Christians get frustrated with atheists. It is they that use horrible logic. As I said, 1)we don't know where and waht kind of animals were scattered on the earth. Species of all kind, could have been close.Also, go research how many "species" were around, and how many years it took to build the ark (70-100 years). The animals slowly gathered&then were brought on the ark.Pal,there's enough information to make good sense if you wanted to, but like most, you don't.
because if this information is NOT in the bible ( which is what you say is true )
then how can you possibly know?
if there is a fault in logic with a story in the bible you cant just make stuff up so it makes sense, you need actual historical sources for what you are saying.
to say "this may be the explanation" is not good enough.
we only ask for actual historical, archaeological or scientific proof, that's all.
@Yourjoking999, Why would God need MAN to carry out his wishes? That's like me asking the ants to gather all the crumbs on the floor before the day is over, yet I could simply get a broom and be done with it. Nothing about the story makes any sense. God is an all powerful being (so to speak) that asked a mortal to do an impossible job that God could have done with the click of his heels. Why would God need to preserve life WHEN HE CREATED IT? Utter rubbish.
@TheDalinkwent Yes it is "utter rubbish" that "God need MAN" that He "asked man to do an impossible job" that He "needs to preserve life". See I agree with you, your positions are utter rubbish. -What doesn't make sense is atheist ants having this arrogant silly notion that God did it wrong and they know better (as they fill in the gaps with rubbish), when they have no clue about God and His multifold plans.
@outofthebox7, Yes because me questioning events that have no evidence in fact and don't even mae sense logically is cleary the wrong way to go. In the book of failry tales, did an all powerful god not ask a 500 year old man to do a task that God himself could have done himself? Yet you call atheist arrogant.
@outofthebox7 Atheists think God did it wrong? What?! You happen to know God's plan? Really? Now back to your room, the nurse will be there with your medications.
19# 2:40 “Where *** did all the black people come from?”
----- “Noah & his family were probably mid-brown, with genes for both dark and light skin, because a medium skin color would seem to be the most generally suitable (dark enough to protect against skin cancer,yet light enough to allow vitamin D production). As all the factors for skin color were present in Adam and Eve, they would most likely have been mid-brown as well, with brown eyes and brown (or black) hair. In fact,-continues:
I remember a time when I'd have actually been mad at him for slamming my religion. Thank goodness I'm an Atheist. The truth is so liberating. This is hilarious and scathingly true.
Even if you managed to save ALL the species (or "kinds" if you prefer) of animals on a boat AND manage to sail around for 40 days, you'll still have to land in a habitat to support them. There n
I like this guy
perosthedog 19 minutes ago
that look at the end was fucking perfect.
maxkasmir 2 days ago
Tell him Joe..
karlbuttler 3 days ago
I want to be Joe Rogan
Daugueffxi 3 days ago
i have a bit more respect for Rogan now! lol
meloveanna 4 days ago
WELL LETS SEE.......CLONING HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE GOD TOOK A RIB A CREATED WOMEN......SO, YOU KNUCKEL HEAD JUST LIKE A PURE BREED THERE IS A MUT???????
tapoplin 4 days ago
@tapoplin what?
theUKatheist 4 days ago 6
@tapoplin I'm not sure if I understand your point but why did god need a rib to create a woman when he created the universe from nothing?
MyFishIsTwonk 1 day ago
joes not even funny
BlueBlazer89 5 days ago
Only a fool says there is no God and Jesus says He Himself is The Way The Truth and The Life. Joe doesn't care about Noah he just wants to live how he wants. He deliberately ignores his own conscience as ALL men do who do not Fear God. But his words will be a witness against him on Judgment Day when he will answer for every one. He may mock today but he will not before God.
OnlyJesusSaves 6 days ago
@OnlyJesusSaves Prove god exists or that he had ANYTHING to do with the bible.
Stupid Christian.
pandorachild 5 days ago
@pandorachild Prove God doesn't exist
RandinoTheWizard 11 hours ago
@RandinoTheWizard prove unicorns don't exist. You can't prove non existence. Don't say such silly things.
theUKatheist 11 hours ago
@theUKatheist Unicorns are not real, how can you be sure that God is not real?
RandinoTheWizard 11 hours ago
@RandinoTheWizard unicorns are not real? Prove it. . You clearly didn't understand my point and probably never will. Are you a Troll or moron? Your next reply with decide.
theUKatheist 11 hours ago
@RandinoTheWizard Not my burden to prove, its yours and so far no one has ever proven ANY god.This is known as the burden of proof, try to learn some logic.
Proving something doesn't exists is almost impossible, you are either ignorant or dishonest, is this the fullness of the truth I can find in the bible and the people who Believe in it?
pandorachild 10 hours ago
@pandorachild So lets say i prove that God is real, then would you believe?
RandinoTheWizard 9 hours ago
@RandinoTheWizard yes if you could prove that God is real, I would believe.
pandorachild 8 hours ago
@pandorachild that's what faith is all about... believing in something without knowing it... I'm not saying you should just that that's what it is
stclax11 3 hours ago
@stclax11 Faith is also how you end up getting lied to as well, believing in something with out evidence or reasoning.You people are told from birth that god is real and you never take an honest look at why you believe.The stories dont add up and if you check deeper into history you find out most of it was made up along the way and they even copied other stories from older religions. Hell if you read it critically it becomes obvious its all a lie based on the morality alone.
pandorachild 1 hour ago
@OnlyJesusSaves You might want to go back and read the part where Jesus says "judge not lest you be judged". Cause you sure are judgin the shit out of joe.
35Rumblefish 4 days ago
@OnlyJesusSaves jesus says this! jesus says that,bla bla bla, Circular argument,you have to better than this.
karlbuttler 3 days ago
@OnlyJesusSaves
>"Only a fool says there is no God and Jesus says He Himself is The Way The Truth and The Life"
....aaaaand Mohammed said that there is no God but Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet.
Oh....you don't care what other peoples scriptures say?
Guess what...if other people can't use their scriptures to prove the veracity of their scriptures....then why should we take it seriously when the Bible Says the Bible is True?
We shouldn't.
LordCustos3 16 hours ago
i honestly cannot take anyone serious if they believe any part of the religious stories. it BLOWS MY MIND that people believe it. but then again people like to believe that they have a higher purpose and that someone's looking out for them.. yeah that's why there's so much corruption and horrendous things that happening in this world. actions have consequences WOW huge concept
TheGodGhost 6 days ago
If you fools want to know about the account of Noah and the flood, for sure don't go to this clown. He got things in mixed order to say the least. Read Genesis for yourself or ask a fundamental Christian.
filoIII 6 days ago
But guys...there might be a 500 foot boat!
LOLOLOL HAHAHAHHA
That guy is retarded.
TheTiffanator1 1 week ago
The story of Noah's Ark is pretty stupid, but what pushes it over the top is that some believe that the ark also included dinosaurs. And not some fringe minority, but top-brass, respectable (however much weight that has in context) Christians like Ken Ham and the Answers in Genesis lot who espouse this without flinching.
Crap like this is why Christians are laughed at. It has nothing to do with hating the "truth"; it's amazement that people so willingly swallow this unbelievable bullshit.
multitudeofidols 1 week ago
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Atheists are funny guys. They don't believe the Bible but they do believe everything was created by nothing. That the complex human body, animals, stars, planets, universal laws etc are all random chance, even though it's so complex we have no idea how to even make something as simple as a cow out of nothing. Listen to Joe, he claims to have seen inter-dimensional energy beings and all this stuff, but you guys don't have a problem with that because that story doesn't make you submit to God.
Kinosis79 1 week ago
@Kinosis79 "They don't believe the Bible but they do believe everything was created by nothing"
yet you beleive god came from nothing ? lol.
watch lawrence krauss "a universe from nothing" for a scientific explanation of how it could have happened. i'll go with this, you can go with the magic man who appeared from no where and created things our of this air , lol.. its hilarious that you accuse of us saying things came from nothing yet its only theists who believe this about their god.
:)
theUKatheist 1 week ago
@Kinosis79
>"They don't believe the Bible but they do believe everything was created by nothing."
*Sigh*
No...that's what /CREATIONISTS/ believe. "Creation Ex Nihilo" is a theistic concept. If you doubt it, ask yourself this question "What pre-existing matter Did God make the universe out of and where did this matter come from?"
Scientists don't assert, based on whim, that "everything came from nothing" because if they did, they'd be obliged to prove it.
LordCustos3 16 hours ago
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Kinosis79 1 week ago
Joe, just put him in a choke hold already....
dcel8 1 week ago
I have to say, I didn't expect Joe Rogan to be that knowledgeable. I don't think that other guy was either.
mdmjwarner 1 week ago
@mdmjwarner You think Rogan got the account right?
filoIII 6 days ago
Powerful Joe Rogan!
lenny9876 1 week ago
@UKatheist-1)Theres still air at that altitude,&with that much h20,you might have a different atmosphere.2)In the sea.the land floded, not the sea.3)His sons wives were different races.4)FOOD.5)again,FOOD.6)There are vegetarian lions to this day,I believe they also ate vegetarian.7)few dinosaurs survived,they were not on the ark.8)God is in charge, he told the animals. It doesnt say they got EVERY species on board either. look at the vid april2010 noahs ark discovery,theres plenty of room there.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
The sad thing here is that Rogan, nor most people realize that you cant dismiss stories, that have several historians of those times confirming & in aggreement. Such as Josephus,Berosus of Chaldean,Heironymus the Egyptian,& Nicholas of Damascus, just to name a few. To assume these historians, known for historical accuracy, from different times, to be non existant & fairey tale, is absurd & illogical. So if Rogan is your teacher, than you'll only be that ignorant, which is your choice, not truth
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing I would absolutely love it if you would kindly give the sources for the documentation for where any of those historians confirm the Noahs Ark story. They didn't
theUKatheist 1 week ago
@theUKatheist Berosus speaks on the circumstances of the flood, & alsothe ark,"It is said there is still some part of this ship in Armenia.....". Hieronymus the Egyptin, in The phoenician antiquities mentions the same, & mnaseas mentions the same in his antiquities.Nocholas Damascus in his 96th book,"there is a great mountain in Armenia....&that the remains of the Timber were a great while preserved. Joshephus,Jewish antiquities book 1 chapter 3:5-6. From now on do your own research.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing im still waiting for the evidence of noas ark being true. all you have mentioned is signs of a flood. i've done the research.
theUKatheist 1 week ago
@theUKatheist Dude, I'm sorry I can only give you the sources, with only 500 letters, I'm not going to rewrite it all for you. You need to look up the quotes I gave, and its described in those passages. Not to mention the fact that every geographical area with inhabitants in the ancient past have global flood stories.heres there :epic of gilamesh,atrahasis, & noah. All written,& agreed on 1 flood,1 boat, saving few people.The odds in science rely heavy on probability,applied here would=probable.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing sorry but im afraid you were wrong, its been agreed that IF a flood took place it was NOT global. only in that area, there is not a shred of evidence from any other part of the world for a flood at that time. not to mention the MANY fallacies in that ridiculous story. if you do not know them i suggest looking. the story is impossible, its ridiculous, only a buffoon would believe it.
theUKatheist 1 week ago
@theUKatheist Ya, wheres your source? Theres only a few junk scientists that have favored the opinion, but have NEVER proven anything. I guess the entire fossil layer got there by magic? or evolution?
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing with that comment you clearly have no clue what evolution is. answer these
1 - how did the animals breathe so high up ( flood covered highest mountains )
2 - where did the sea life live? teh waters at this altitude would kill them
3 - how did noah repopulate the earth with one family and with race diversity
4 - how were the animals fed?
5 - what did they eat once off the ark?
6 - how did the carnivores live?
7 - what about the dinosaurs?
8 - how did he get one of EVERY species?
theUKatheist 1 week ago 3
@2skullscrushing
Josephus: Testimonium Flavianum is most likely not authentic in its entirety
It has been suggested that part or all of the passage may have been Christian apologist and historian Eusebius' own invention, in order to provide an outside Jewish authority for the life of Christ.
pandorachild 10 hours ago
@2skullscrushing In 1498, an official of Pope Alexander VI named Annius of Viterbo claimed to have discovered lost books of Berossus. These were in fact an elaborate forgery. However, they gained great influence over Renaissance ways of thinking about population and migration, because Annius provided a list of kings from Japhet onwards, filling a historical gap following the Biblical account of the Flood.
pandorachild 10 hours ago
@2skullscrushing "several historians of those times confirming & in aggreement. "
or forgeries and establishments added later?
pandorachild 10 hours ago
you knew what I meant, & they are still the same rules you used in your so called debate, though, so recognize that..
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
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ya know joe rogan wants to superman punch this eejit!
dvrn86 1 week ago
ancient Hebrew Now shows it has NOT changed since its beginning. And that the numerology of it was discovered much later & was secondary.Ancient hebrew is the same as pheonetic, sandskrit script, because it uses pictures letters & word descriptions. Its known now that they all stemmed from one basic origin. Joe Rogan's speculations & assumptions are just that. He's definitely the guy I'm going to get my factual truth from. what a joke.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
i know some ppl are going to probably get mad at me for saying this..... but if richard dawkins was a UFC or MMA fighter instead of a evolutionary biolgist, he'd be joe rogan.
trashbash2001 1 week ago
Does Joe Rogan still think the moon landing was a hoax? If he does why cant he use this kind of thinking about that?
heatmourning33 1 week ago
@heatmourning33 he says he actually don't know what side to take on that anymore.
TheTramsen 1 week ago
people who believe in the bible and the ark story, and any story from the bible i walk away from them. They are so crazy I cant even be around them.
dillinger9999 2 weeks ago
people still actually believe this shit!!!!!! hahahahahahaha!!! iwas 8 when i seen it was bs. there 16000 to 18000 species discovered each year!?!??!?! did noah go forward in time and bring the animals back
xamot27 2 weeks ago
People that try to convince me that the Noah's ark story is real, and that Jonah really lived inside a whale for three days MAKE ME WANT TO CHOKE THEM!!! That's why I'm watching YouTube videos, so I can watch the pros unload on them with reason, instead of fists.
NoFaithInFolklore 2 weeks ago 2
whats this new trend about bashing religion to make ur self look cool
foxhound20071980 2 weeks ago
@foxhound20071980
it's called realization and people are catching on. rational thought is finally prevailing!
go back to the dark ages
ItsADonnybrook 2 weeks ago 6
according to most christians, god created man in his image. so if he wiped out the very creatures he invented in his image, than that means god is one ugly mofo inside.
FreezinFlamesGT 2 weeks ago
ark is straight bullshit
4alpha100 2 weeks ago
You know what really amazes me? Why is this religious guy working so hard to believe such nonsense?
7A35 2 weeks ago
Holy Shit, Rogan is outstanding!
mattshark100 3 weeks ago
Noah didn't build a boat, he built an ark. Ark means box(like the ark of the covenant). If you want to take the story literally you can't say Noah built a boat.
soulinite 3 weeks ago
200 cultures have the same story? I thought this planetary genocide by god would have fixed that shit by god dammit.
GT500Shelby07 3 weeks ago
@GT500Shelby07
That is a simple, yet outstanding point. All the times I've heard people talk of numerous cultures having the same near extinction flood story, and that never came to mind.
Thank you for that.
RatFacedJasper 2 weeks ago
Joe Rogan just gained a level in my book. Nicely done.
MegaClockworkDoc 3 weeks ago 12
@MegaClockworkDoc,
He was already level 100.
Do you mean to say he can violate the natural laws of level gain?
attheveryend 1 week ago
he does not impress me
lynnmist123 4 weeks ago
Don't even humour people who believe in the Noah's ark story - it's so preposterous and infantile that it doesn't merit further discussion. If you believe it actually happened, you forfeit your right to be accepted as part of modern society.
timchilli 1 month ago 8
@timchilli Yet, in april of 2010 on the far eastern side of Turkey by the border of armenia, at 13,000 feet, on a summit of a mountain called little ararat, was found an embedded structure matching the measurements of the biblical ark. Evidence of food,water storage, animal pens,rope,etc were found. all documented on video.Carbon dating matches biblical timeline. On a mountain with NO wood. Its 4 stories high. Nevermind the bible story, explain its existance, & survival,buried under debri's.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing Your comment is, frankly, embarrassing. Firstly, the entire 2010 "discovery" was a hoax (search for "PaleoBabble Noah's Ark Update"). Secondly, you ACTUALLY believe the flood took place. In spite of the insurmountable evidence to the contrary, you believe in this fable? I mean no undue disrespect, but you are an embarrassment to the human race if you don't question the veracity of this story.
timchilli 1 week ago 3
@timchilli Based on what? your analysis? What contrary proof? That hoax has already been debunked. And I would say the entire silt layer full of ocean,sea based life, in the shale layer that exists aropund the world has proven as always, that there was a global flood. Which is documented world wide & the only contrary idea is that this happened millions of years ago is a non provable theory, so just who is being gullible. I have a discover & the earth, you have man & theories. Ya, your correct?
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing I mean this sincerely: your ignorance is astounding. I'm actually impressed that you can hold on to such a primitive tale with such enthusiasm. Your level of self-delusion is remarkable. Children have the capacity to recognise that the Ark story is fictional, yet here you are - a grown adult, claiming it to have actually happened. Read more, think more.
timchilli 1 week ago
@timchilli Clearly your just a douche. You can skip the question of what it is on that mountain, & you can skip the many ancient accurate historians that spoke of the boat being there as well. Where is your proof its a fairy tale? Just because? or because you believe a theory backed with no proof also? is that why you believe its just a simple thing to dismiss? Condemnation without investigation is the highest form of ignorance, yet you believe evolution without any supporting fossil evidence.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing, I could spend some time showing you how ignorant and uninformed you are if you were remotely interested in being reasonable, but debating with you is like playing chess with a pigeon - no matter how good I am at chess, you will knock over all the pieces, shit on the chessboard and strut around as though you were victorious.
timchilli 1 week ago
@timchilli I wish you could spend time explaining the object on the mountain, and all written accounts that verify its location, but your like all atheists, only good at mocking and personal attacks. People like you also mock the exodus, yet there is mass amounts of physical proof at Jebel al lawz, named in arabic,"the mountail of the law" in ancient times. You atheists never have proof, and scoff at real proof. such as first hand written witness accounts.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing, "PROOF" - I don't think that word means what you think it means.
timchilli 1 week ago
@timchilli I dont need a scientific re-defining of it. Its pretty simple.only junk science needs new definitions to fix there bad theories.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing Here endeth the discussion.
timchilli 1 week ago
@timchilli ya, since you have no logical answers to refute the original question as to what is up on that mountain, & why it matches all the writings describing it being there, its size shape,etc.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing
That's how science works, if new data is discovered that doesn't support a specific theory, then the theory either has to be revised or rejected completely, and a new theory that better explains the evidence is formulated to take it's place.
Science is self correcting and non dogmatic, that's why it has taken us so far in such a short space of time.
Religion has kept us shackled in darkness, bound to superstition, ignorance and myth for centuries, It's days are numbered.
AndyCielecki 1 week ago
@AndyCielecki Sure, & anyone that confuses science, with religious belief, is surely ignorant, Because God,Yashua & truth , have NOTHING to do with mans belief systems. This is why your one sided views are damning to you, because you fail to do enough research to even get past Dogma & religous traditions.There isnt one prophet or verse that condones, supports, or promotes ANY religous belief. Your so intelligent, i'm sure you could point that out for me.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@timchilli & this is not debate. I mentioned a discovery that has been verified, & you only talked using propaganda techniques, never actually addressing my original questions. Your atheistic reasoning is not a factual answer, its just an arrogant assumption that because without fact you believe what you believe, you would never look at any REAL artifacts or REAL proof, because your blinded by a theory, that has NEVER yielded proof. instead,imagination, you make up stories of me playing chess?
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing You're an excellent troll. I'll give you that much.
timchilli 1 week ago
@timchilli your good at evading debate with ad hominid.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing I should've known! Top marks to you. Anyone who deftly uses "ad hominid" instead of "ad hominem" is an elite troll. Well played, sir.
timchilli 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing
"hominid" oh the irony.
AndyCielecki 1 week ago
@AndyCielecki Ya, it works every time. Paid trolls, fall for that trick. I lead them to believe I know nothing of those propaganda practices, & by calling me on my error, they at the least admit they are aware of their argument tactic, which is to distract, and shift away from the points they fail to answer. Ya, its Irony alright.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing
Wow I'm going to get paid, fantastic :).
Of course, of course it was all a trap lol,
I'm sure you do know about 'propaganda practices' or logical fallacies as the rest of the world calls them.
The irony I was pointing out was that of an evolution denier mentioning hominids.
BTW would using the term 'Paid trolls' be considered an "ad hominid" (sic) attack?
AndyCielecki 1 week ago
@AndyCielecki Evolution denier. HA HA HA. you cant deny something that has NEVER been proven. accepted theory is not proof of anything, especially when its only a small science community, verses everyone else in the world, which has not been decided as of yet.People like you actually give science big credit , when the reality is that it hasnt done anything for us, that wasnt already here beforehand.They arent curing anything, nor are they solving problems. If you believe otherwise,your settling.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing
"you cant deny something that has NEVER been proven"
Possibly one of the stupidest things I've ever heard or seen in print.
"accepted theory is not proof of anything"
But unaccepted creationist hypothesis is valid..see above.
"a small science community, verses everyone else in the world"
Actually it's more like the whole of science versus a few fundies.
If science hasn't given us anything then why don't you back away from your PC and go any live in a cave?
AndyCielecki 1 week ago
@AndyCielecki Because I'm a human. I care about my brethren. I would never throw them under a bus because of what they believe. But your so upside down, you really have no PROOF for any of that evolution stuff, because again, theory is just that. re defining it doesnt make it factual. However where the bible is concerned, there are physical places, people, events. Some with tangible hand held artifacts. Again, the odds are way higher that its all true, but the odds of evolution, are very slim.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing
In fact there is such a preponderance of evidence to support the ToE it's actually difficult to know where to begin, but It would of course be pointless providing it to a closed mind that prefers bronze age mythology.
As to the bible being true, the same arguments hold for the Torah, Vedas, Qu'ran, Book of Shadows, or the Gospel of The Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Why is your book so special, and why does history conflict with biblical account..oh yeah Satan done it.
AndyCielecki 1 week ago
@AndyCielecki History doesnt. only evolution theory does. The word History comes from HIS STORY aka God. Everything we knew about Egypt first, came from the bible. same with early babelonian empires,Sumer,UR. The names of the cities/locations.Eithiopia Queens, Perzian Kings & their empires.Jericho, its location, history & downfall. All proven historically accurate. The Satan isnt a being, its a discription of the enemy. Lucifer is probably what your looking for.you criticize much but know little
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing
Sorry History : Greek - historia, meaning "inquiry, knowledge acquired by investigation, you know like science.
So god is male? that explains why misogyny is rife in the bible.
Your saying the bible is historically accurate and consistent with no contradictions?
As for Satan or Lucifer I wish the Christians would decide which one they prefer, it might as well be Bert n Ernie as far as I'm concerned they're equally as real, well actually Bert n Ernie have the edge there.
AndyCielecki 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing
That there is mention of real places in the bible and historic figures is no more proof that god exists, any more than Marvell comics are proof Spider-man is real.
Can you tell me when the new testament was written and who the authors were..and which bible you think is the definitive account?
AndyCielecki 1 week ago
@timchilli Its no different than the idea that we came from monkeys, yet you identify with that perfectly.And Tim hutchins agree's we came from a higher power in the end of all of his speculative guess work, but you guys never admit to that. It was an interview with Ben Stien, look it up.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing, you're a credit to religion - unthinking and unquestioning of your own faith, obstinate, recalcitrant and willfully ignorant. I could demonstrate exactly how evolution works, and why it has scientific consensus, but there's simply no point, since you don't want to think for yourself. I predict you'll give me the usual "no, YOU'RE ignorant" chat in reply, but the truth is here for all to see.
The truth doesn't need faith.
timchilli 1 week ago
@timchilli See, your observation skills & ability to understand what you read is amazing. Let me spell it out. You have had every opportunity to spread yopur facts about any topic here. I've seen nothing. I mentioned tangible things, with testemony to back the facts of the TRUTH of those matters. you barely even mention loosly, the THEORY of your belief. Real facts & truth are what matter, not youre insistance, that your right. You have to have proof, not theory.the bible has,fact,proof & truth.
2skullscrushing 1 week ago
@2skullscrushing Real facts and truth are what matter - I wholeheartedly agree. However, you think that tales from the bible is factual and the fantasy world inside your head is the truth. This is where you and the rest of the free-thinknig world part company.
I cannot discuss anything rational with you if you do not understand that bible verses and your unsubstantiated, subjective thoughts DO NOT CONSTITUTE EVIDENCE.
So the dialogue ends now.
timchilli 1 week ago
LMMFAO LOVE IT!!
SIRUS25B 1 month ago
Ask them if they found 2 kangaroo fossils on the mountain right next to the camal fossils and between the polar bear and penguin fossils within feet of each other. I'd find that pretty amazing if that actually happened.
Ripley747 1 month ago
Damn! Joe Rogan is pretty smart!
tek87 1 month ago
Haha loved the ending, rolls eyes, he really ripped him a new asshole back stage.
Kyee71 1 month ago
there should be a link to this evidence
dennisbernard11 1 month ago
@dennisbernard11 Link to what evidence? Links to what Joe's talking about, or links to what the pseudo-archaeologist is talking about? Or maybe both?
I say neither since there's simply no possible way the wannabe is going to be right about any of it. The story is simply absurd and will never prove true, because it's impossible, period.
In Joe's case, finding and linking the points of both sides is patently a total waste of time. The whole thing just isn't worth it.
OriginalTharios 3 weeks ago
People of the time had no friggin idea how large the earth was or how many species of animals and plants there were. This is a story most likely based on major localized flooding as some point and certainly not worldwide. Of couse if you want to belive the bible, just shows how evil god can be.
CerebrumPedere 1 month ago
@CerebrumPedere Especially considering there isn't enough water in Earth's hydrographic system to cover more than maybe 90% of the surface of that time period...and that would require the atmosphere become hyper-arid and all land-locked ice melts completely.
And there were cultures/nations of that age that did have a much better idea of the world's size, but took such stories metaphorically only. It was only the massively ignorant nomadic peoples who really believed them.
OriginalTharios 3 weeks ago
lol.
123backinyerface 1 month ago
"is it possible it's just a boat?" Joe has already taken the lead in this debate.
TheDalinkwent 1 month ago
Joe is a boss!!
InsanoGerbil 1 month ago
@Yourjoking999 "If anyone tells me that these sci.evidences arenot evidences,my response is: You're an indenialist liar."
so basically if we disagree,we are wrong? lol. what a silly thing to say. so you are right by default then yeah?
how about you bring your head from out thy ass and come back to a civil level; of discussion where we can assume that either of us could be wrong. sound fair?
now instead of just posting websites ( which i can do too ) why dont you give us your best 2 arguments?
theUKatheist 1 month ago
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@theUKatheist Again you manipulate my words. Disagreeing with me is not a problem, telling me that there's ZERO evidence for a worlwide flood is just lidicrous in light of even the few links I provided. Then you talk about "Fair"??? You removed 20 of my comments which blew Rogan's foolishness from the map, you distort what I say, you don't give proper attention to the links, & I'm suppose to go do your homework as well. I even did that!
Yourjoking999 1 month ago
Iremeber this on the news,it turned out to some 800-900 yr old shepards barn or something.
jknightxx 1 month ago
Seriously what the hell was with that song at the end?? It really pissed me off.
Zackarot 1 month ago
@outofthebox7 1 - 25 comments is spam.. 2 - I didn't read them, I glanced as deleting and I've heard them all before. 3 - fine, but why? .. 4 - you honestly think he will reply? Seriously? .. 5 - yes,I could have removed them all but wanted to show the amount you did by keeping the numbers there. I don't care if you feel free, I don't allow spam.
This is not a discussion, this is going back to talking about your spamming, not the video content, as I said I will discuss/ debate with you on it.
theUKatheist 1 month ago
@theUKatheist 3 - What do you mean "but why?" Cause their stupid and people are misinformed by him, I made that clear in my posts. 4 - Who said he will reply?? I didn't. You make it sound so though. I said he could if he wants to, in response to you saying "(HE) CANNOT REPLY BACK". After what you did, I have nothing to say (...), THE END. You can have the last word.
outofthebox7 1 month ago
@outofthebox7 "Cause their stupid and people are misinformed by him"
in your opinion, just asserting things doesnt make them true im afraid.
"You can have the last word."
thank you sooo much! so i offer to discuss the points you made, one on one and you run away? again proving that all you intended to do was reply by spamming and running off. there was no discussion in mind when writing those, thus they are spam.
again i offer you the chance to discuss it with someone who will actually answer
theUKatheist 1 month ago
@outofthebox7 we only ask for actual historical, archaeological or scientific proof. just saying "this may be what happened" is NOT good enough.
theUKatheist 1 month ago
@theUKatheist I shouldn't be responding to this,but I'll humor it.You want "actual historical,archaelogical or scientific proof" of the details of an event that happened 4.5 thousand years ago??Isn't this laughable?Regardless, logic and the Scripture account can show to an honest person thatthe eventwas feasible,possible,he just has to fill in some gaps as you would in anyother story of that time.--Scientific evidence for a world wide flood is all over the internet;btw it'snotRogan's topic here.
Yourjoking999 1 month ago
@Yourjoking999 "You want "actual historical,archaelogical or scientific proof" of the details of an event that happened 4.5 thousand years ago??Isn't this laughable?"
no, how do you think we know about the ancient Egyptians and Greeks? how do you think we know they had gladiators and stadiums? historical evidence.
also dinosours are MILLIONS of years old a, we have evidence for what they ate, how they lived and how they hunted. you thinking that evidence should not exist is "laughable"
contin-
theUKatheist 1 month ago
@theUKatheist Again, you're not listening. I said "details of an event"(sticking to the video / not proof of the event itself), something that has NOTHING TO DO with ancient Egyptians,Greeks etc. Again, what is laughable is the way you perceive my logical comments.
Yourjoking999 1 month ago
@Yourjoking999 " what is laughable is the way you perceive my logical comments."
i cant perceive what is not there.
theUKatheist 1 month ago
@Yourjoking999 continued-
so to summarise yes there should be proof , to think there wouldn't be for such huge historical events is foolish.
"Scientific evidence for a world wide flood is all over the internet"
there is absolutely ZERO evidence for a worldwide flood my friend, the sources you got that from is likely Christian bias. how about ACTUAL evidence not websites SAYING it happened?? do you just believe anything you see on line which supports your view?? :-/
please show actual proof
theUKatheist 1 month ago
@theUKatheist Who said there shouldn't be evidence for huge historical events, I mean, the mere fact that so many ancient accounts exist referring to a world flood is enough. Other than that I provided very much evidence in my next message, which of course you being in denial, like all atheists, should not see as evidence. So yes, as I said, my response, based on -as I expected- your frivolous remark ("ZERO evidence"&"Christian bias") is: YOU'RE AN INDENIALIST LIAR. So, hate yourself, not me.
Yourjoking999 1 month ago
@Yourjoking999 "the mere fact that so many ancient accounts exist referring to a world flood is enough"
again you failed to provide evidence of this. i mean real evidence, not made up creationist bullshit. its like you dont even realise how retarded some of the things you say really are.
im not in denial, that suggests that what you imply makes sense, please show evidence of a worldwide flood. also please prove that its linked to the noah story.
i dont hate you, i just think you're an idiot.
theUKatheist 1 month ago
PS i asked you for 2 of your best bits of evidence, you havent given any, also the person who did 25+ comments of spam was a different user name, but it looks like ou used your other account then, why exactly do you have more than one account?
again provide YOUR 2 best pieces of evidence instead of just linking websites, creationist websites are MICROSCOPIC compared to actual science websites.
use your brain and TELL ME what YOU think is good evidence for the flood.
theUKatheist 1 month ago
@theUKatheist What you think of me,has to do with your level of ignorance.
-I usually use one account for exposing martial artists’ nonsense, &the other usually for religious issues.Sometimes I forget to change accounts.
-I already gave you so many evidences that you have not dealt with. You on the other hand, provided no proof against Noah's flood, where is YOUR proof, TELL ME. Put my comments back for the people to read and respond to, or, even better remove this trashy misinforming video.
Yourjoking999 1 month ago
@Yourjoking999 you understand the difference between evidence for your view and rationalizing , right? Obviously not.
You provided no proof.
Where is my proof? Of what? I'm not claiming that something impossible happened.
I can't put back comments once deleted, I told you 25 comments in a row is spam and unacceptable. If you feel you need to reply do a video, don't spam my comments section.
Everything on the websites you provided have been scientifically PROVEN WRONG. Now what?
theUKatheist 1 month ago
@theUKatheist Evidence for what??This is well known!1)Evidence:
h t t p : / / w w w . nwcreation. n et / articles/ ancientsknew. h t m l
h t t p : / / w w w . nwcreation. net / noahlegends. h t m l
2) I have NO REASON not to believe that the above accounts-if your read especially the details of some of them-go back to Noah.Neither do you!I find the Biblical account reasonable.If you don't,then it's just your word,against mine.
If you don't put my 20 comments back, converstation is over.
Yourjoking999 1 month ago
@Yourjoking999 "it's just your word,against mine."
thats what you think ???
no , its not just you vs me, its the vast majority of historians, archaeologist and scientists vs creationists. If you hadn't noticed the creationists lose.
i have already seen the articles on that website and they are utter bullshit, they lack knowledge of basic science as that is the only way to make the story appear true.
sorry but the rationalization and scientific understanding of a creationists is LAUGHABLE!
theUKatheist 1 month ago
@Yourjoking999 cont
"If you don't put my 20 comments back, converstation is over."
no loss to me, i dont allow spam, i told you that
that is your way of getting out of answering my simple question, i asked you to give me 2 pieces of evidence YOU find the best to support it, you dont give me anything apart from website links to bullshit that has been dubunked A BILLION TIMES.
the arguments from these sites are based on VERY bad science .
you have nothing but strawman arguments and ignorance.
theUKatheist 1 month ago
@Yourjoking999 thirdly if you dont reply with 2 arguments then yes the conversation is over because as i suspected you dont know what you are talking about.
type what you think is proof. its not difficult. do you even know the MANY MANY reasons why its scientifically impossible that Noah's ark is true?
the replies to these which creationists use to rationalize them are ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.
so please, feel free to stop replying, you have nothing and your ignorance is frustrating.
theUKatheist 1 month ago
@theUKatheist And I have to add to this, why shouldn't I or anyone talk about atheist bias, like the kind the video you provide is filled with?? Be sincere and take this video down. You owe it... to yourself!
Yourjoking999 1 month ago
@Yourjoking999 "why shouldn't I or anyone talk about atheist bias,"
because there is no such thing, atheists simply dont believe in god and do not follow religion. how are we bias? we treat every religion as equal bullshit. supporting science and EVIDENCE is not bias, its smart.
again all you are doing here is asserting you are correct without giving reason, there is no evidence for a worldwide flood, even if there was you cant prove it has anything to do with noahs flood.
you are deluded
theUKatheist 1 month ago
@theUKatheist "how are we bias?" "you are deluded"
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Yourjoking999 1 month ago
@Yourjoking999 your done here, sorry but i cant take you seriously, anyone who believes that noahs ark is possible is rather a liar or a complete moron. you may be both.
this conversation is over, i asked SEVERAL times for 2 pieces of your best evidence and you provide nothing, you have nothing, you will always have nothing. creationists have less knowledge of basic science than a 4 year old child. watch "why we laugh at creationists" by thunderfoot.
im done. goodbye and thanks for watching.
theUKatheist 1 month ago
1# The problem with Bible haters is that they do not know the Personality of God hence do not understand His ways,the way we Christians have come to understand them.This of course, they can’t believe. So they fill in the gaps, instigated by deception and hate.That being said, let’s see the arrogance and ignorance of his mistakes. Read comments downwards.
outofthebox7 1 month ago
@outofthebox7 DO NOT SPAM MY VIDEOS ! Do this again and you will be blocked. Over 20 comments of spam without reply is unacceptable. There will be no more warnings. Do NOT spam again.
theUKatheist 1 month ago
@theUKatheist You call "20 comments".. "of spam"(?), answering all of Rogan's nonsense? You should be happy I put in the time to deal with your video.
"Unacceptable"??
My posts are there, so people can reply to them if they want. I just now posted them. Was I supposed to reply to the them lol. So who's stopping them from replying? Or is it that you are bothered by the fact someone refuted your video. Real democratic and truth-loving of you. Peace. -We're all tested by the way.
outofthebox7 1 month ago
@outofthebox7 yes of course 25 comments is spam. Stop spamming, if you want debate or discussion I'm happy too but we cover 1 or 2 points at a time NOT 25! That is unacceptable!
I'm not bothered by your "facts" i didn't even read them. I HATE spammers.
The were to many assertions and too many points you made to reply too, all being absolute nonsense, rationalizations and pure opinion plus YOU WERE REPLYING TO JOE WHO CANNOT REPLY BACK. If you want discussion do it right please
theUKatheist 1 month ago
2# 00:28 “Instead of telling them what they were doing wrong”…. 00:31 “He only told one man.”
----Bottom line is,God is not obliged to tell any one what “they are doing wrong” before destroying them, when He already a) knows they know what they are doing wrong, b) that they will not repent no matter what.
outofthebox7 1 month ago
@outofthebox7 25 comments without reply is beyond a joke. Spamming will not make people read it will make them ignore you and think you to be a fool. If you cannot wait for a response for one or two comments then you have issues. But 25 is taking the piss. They will be removed and you will limit your comments and wait for replies. This is NOT acceptable!
theUKatheist 1 month ago
@theUKatheist Really???? If you remove them, it says alot about you and how much you serve truth. My friendly advice is to be calm and think about it. Sometimes we regret quick actions. But, it's your game, I know...
outofthebox7 1 month ago
@outofthebox7 if your comments were atheist I would still remove them, spamming is unacceptable by anyone. 25 comments in a row IS SPAM. Like I said if you want discussion I'm happy to but you don't get to make that many assertions before a reply, that is not how it works, that is simply dictating your opinion . You understand?
Joe cannot reply, you know this. I can, but I will not go through 25 comments and going back and forth like that, ridiculous. Feel free to start discussion
theUKatheist 1 month ago
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@theUKatheist1)Nothing stopped you or anyone from choosing“1 or 2 points”to discuss.2)You say you “didn’t even read” my posts&then say about them “all being absolute nonsense,rationalizations & pure opinion”.That makes sense. : ) 3)I was commenting on what Rogan said,in third person,for the readers,not REPLYING TO JOE ROGAN(other than once)!!!4)Besides,Rogan can reply if he wanted,so this“CANNOT REPLY”is not true.5)You removed20out of my 25comments.Yeah I "feel free". Be happy with yourself.
outofthebox7 1 month ago
17#2:20 (what did animal eat for 40 days)“…since animal like to eat other animals…”
-----First of all, the animals were being fed.We are told that God ordered Noah to bring on boat food for them. Case closed. Secondly it doesn't take much to figure out that the animals were logically separated in some way.
On the other hand (although not needed) God could have slowed down their metabolism. Maybe all the animals were young in age (hence size).
outofthebox7 1 month ago
@outofthebox7 you missed the point, if noah only brought 2 of each animal, how did he feed the carnuvors since they only eat meat?
jknightxx 1 month ago
@jknightxx I didn't miss the point. I replied to it. You missed my point. God told Noah to bring food on board. Logic says a) they probably ate of clean animals, there's even a chance b) there weren't any carnivorous animals back then. G***le &research both. Please don't just make comments without dong some simple research. I you patiently do your research, you will find reasonable answers.
Yourjoking999 1 month ago
18#-I know I am giving you logical and simple explanations, that’s why anyone denying them as a possibility, to me is in-denial. That’s all, irrationally in-denial; that’s why I call most atheist “indenialists”.
We are not given all the details but you think God was not able to figure it out? And you, Joe Rogan are smarter? Please, stick to being a comedian, but a logical one at that.
outofthebox7 1 month ago
@outofthebox7 see here is why people get frustrated with theists,you supsend all logic,everything we know about animals,the fact there no way he could build a boat to house every species of animal,suspend the fact that animals would have to come from everypart of the globe to get onthis boat,witch would take forever,and just GOd did it with magic.
jknightxx 1 month ago
@jknightxx No,what I see is why Christians get frustrated with atheists. It is they that use horrible logic. As I said, 1)we don't know where and waht kind of animals were scattered on the earth. Species of all kind, could have been close.Also, go research how many "species" were around, and how many years it took to build the ark (70-100 years). The animals slowly gathered&then were brought on the ark.Pal,there's enough information to make good sense if you wanted to, but like most, you don't.
Yourjoking999 1 month ago
@Yourjoking999 "go research"
what are your sources for this information?
because if this information is NOT in the bible ( which is what you say is true )
then how can you possibly know?
if there is a fault in logic with a story in the bible you cant just make stuff up so it makes sense, you need actual historical sources for what you are saying.
to say "this may be the explanation" is not good enough.
we only ask for actual historical, archaeological or scientific proof, that's all.
please
theUKatheist 1 month ago
@Yourjoking999, Why would God need MAN to carry out his wishes? That's like me asking the ants to gather all the crumbs on the floor before the day is over, yet I could simply get a broom and be done with it. Nothing about the story makes any sense. God is an all powerful being (so to speak) that asked a mortal to do an impossible job that God could have done with the click of his heels. Why would God need to preserve life WHEN HE CREATED IT? Utter rubbish.
TheDalinkwent 1 month ago
@TheDalinkwent Yes it is "utter rubbish" that "God need MAN" that He "asked man to do an impossible job" that He "needs to preserve life". See I agree with you, your positions are utter rubbish. -What doesn't make sense is atheist ants having this arrogant silly notion that God did it wrong and they know better (as they fill in the gaps with rubbish), when they have no clue about God and His multifold plans.
outofthebox7 1 month ago
@outofthebox7, Yes because me questioning events that have no evidence in fact and don't even mae sense logically is cleary the wrong way to go. In the book of failry tales, did an all powerful god not ask a 500 year old man to do a task that God himself could have done himself? Yet you call atheist arrogant.
TheDalinkwent 1 month ago
@outofthebox7 Atheists think God did it wrong? What?! You happen to know God's plan? Really? Now back to your room, the nurse will be there with your medications.
UnitedCorpOfAmerica 1 month ago
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19# 2:40 “Where *** did all the black people come from?”
----- “Noah & his family were probably mid-brown, with genes for both dark and light skin, because a medium skin color would seem to be the most generally suitable (dark enough to protect against skin cancer,yet light enough to allow vitamin D production). As all the factors for skin color were present in Adam and Eve, they would most likely have been mid-brown as well, with brown eyes and brown (or black) hair. In fact,-continues:
outofthebox7 1 month ago
I remember a time when I'd have actually been mad at him for slamming my religion. Thank goodness I'm an Atheist. The truth is so liberating. This is hilarious and scathingly true.
Redcrayon2121 1 month ago 29
@Redcrayon2121 o0ooooooo your so smart......... NOT, fucking dumbshit.
TheDarceChoke 2 weeks ago
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DawgBlog 1 month ago
Even if you managed to save ALL the species (or "kinds" if you prefer) of animals on a boat AND manage to sail around for 40 days, you'll still have to land in a habitat to support them. There n