@callmetoocrazy Me too! I miss Tyler most. I still talk to Gabe and Rob when they're in town or when I'm in NY but Tyler, I never hear from him. Heath, well, hmmm....no idea lol
It hurts me to see how you can insult Gabe easily. Midtown wasn't Gabe. Stop talking about him. Get over the fact that they are doing other stuff now. Yes, Midtown is a lot better (coming from someone who loves cobra) but that's it. You can't change anything. Maybe cobra is pointless to you, but not for me, they are great & talented people. Gabe hasn't forgot Midtown, he signed my record 3 weeks ago & he had a huge smile on his face. Let him enjoy what he's doing,stop complaining, stop comparing
I feel really bad that I just started listening to them. I wish I had known them sooner or be older. Cobra Starship is my favorite band, but this also shows that Gabe has a lot of talent with two different types of music in his career. This is definately my favorite Midtown song. It also doesnt hurt any that Gabe is gorgeous, now and then.
@abigailchristie2013 Sorry but Cobra Starship is crap compared to Midtown.......I've been listen to Midtown before the became popular ( worked on the street team and everything) they were crazy good live as well, not taking anything away from Cobra Starship, I've seen them live as well....... Rocking Show !!!!!
@krivo101 It's all relative. Midtown's music had its place and turn in time. But that time has passed, even Gabe has accepted it. I would give anything to see Midtown live again, but oh well, that ship has sank. At least I got to see them over 20 times while they were still around. And Gabe, well, at least he knows I'm alive hahaha
@krazywane I'm sorry but you can't compare Midtown to Cobra. Midtown was great musicians writing great songs about life. and it was genuine and real expressions of where Gabe was at. Cobra is a joke. their songs are entirely meaningless and are to make money. Gabe sold out. it's not just a different time, it's different motivation entirely.
@gap1501 Well, if you listen to Cobra's earlier albums, you can tell that the goal wasn't to sell out. It was just Gabe having fun and experimenting with new music. I will admit though, they have sold out. But that was recent, so it's unfair for people to say that Cobra was ALWAYS about the money. Overall though, even if Cobra hadn't sold out, Midtown will always be the best of the two. I wish I'd gotten the chance to see them live :(
@xochocolatechips we can argue when they sold out all day. I will just say Gabe is the definition of sell out in our generation and I hate him for that. I sincerely wish Cobra would bomb and he would reunite Midtown and have that bomb too. I want no success for him ever again. I wouldn't go to a Midtown reunion show, it would be a hollow pointless cash grab. Glad I saw them back in the day before the selling out and betrayal to the fans.
@xochocolatechips we can argue when they sold out all day. I will just say Gabe is the definition of sell out in our generation and I hate him for that. I sincerely wish Cobra would bomb and he would reunite Midtown and have that bomb too. I want no success for him ever again. I wouldn't go to a Midtown reunion show, it would be a hollow pointless cash grab. Glad I saw them back in the day before the selling out and betrayal to the fans.
@c3cile95 Get off my man!!! Jk hahaha, I <3 Gabe, well love to hate him! Jk hahaha, he's a nice douchebag unlike myself and mean and nasty douchebag! ;p
@cvg1099 Are you a dumbfuck? Empty like the ocean is referring to being drunk, partying, fucking, all of which are pretty much empty! and um... I'm sorry "stupidest?" Don't talk if you DO NOT know how to. Ugh. Seriously. You can't take things so litterally. Music would lose its touch. You must of thought you were smart or something...
@cvg1099 lol i can c whos dun their science homework, but honestly dude, its music, not biology and if u dont c the phylosifical meaning behind this title, then evrything u just said makes u sound like a sad dork wiv no taste in music, no friends n no life who just sits around studyin the percentage of water on this planet so how about u shut the fuck up n stop dissing them!
This is a wonderful song! I love Gabe and I support whatever he does, I do have to admit I am a fangster, but i'll always have a different love for Midtown than Cobra.
@joejonas1811 why? what does it mean for you? literal meaning? hidden subtext? songs from forget what you know has too many multiple meanings, what matters is how you find it applicable to yourself. if you had asked me what i thought of this song back in 2004, i would not give the same answer today. pm me what you think it means....maybe i'll pass along the discussion to latin lover boy for his constructive breakdown of your interpretation ;)
@joejonas1811 or maybe the complete dissolution of the human existence and left with only isolation and an uncertain salvation? just kidding, hahaha, such a tragedy of the human condition indeed...wait, did i just quote a title in this text? i'm so retarded and weird, hahaha
Everyone's having fun, and that's what matters.Gabe's enjoying Cobra and the other members are enjoying their own acts and lives.Gabe himself said he felt the need to break away from the type of lyrics and song he wrote in FWYK because they were too personal.Cobra's ok, but I don't take them as seriously because they are supposed to be more of a "fun band". I wish I'd got to see Midtown, but I was too young at that time to 1)appreciate this music or 2)go to the shows. I envy you old people, lol.
@Swiftlygothedays I'm only 20 and I saw them in 2004 (I was 14). GREAT experience; I actually got asked to hang out with Heath after the show at the merch table but stupid me passed it up to hug lostprophets since they threatened to kick this guys ass for punching me in the crowd. good times!
to me both Midtown and Cobra are great reflections of Gabe's music ability. People say he's changed since then but he really hasn't. People just don't bother to look hard enough...
@BDPJenn I saw them about 10 times live in 2004! Los Angeles Troubadour Feb 2004, Detroit, Pomona, San Diego all in May 2004, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania August 2004, New York Nov 2004, New Jersey Dec 2004. No wonder they call me "krazy"! Hahaha, Gabe has not changed, other than articulating his responses in impromtu interviews more cautiously as to not recreate another Drive-Thru incident, LOL.
Well, you're still an old person! I kid! I kid..Sounds like good times, ahaha.
Yeah, I'll agree with the Gabe not changing thing. i saw his face on a huge banner while buying a dress at Macy's. Many would have said, "Oh noes! Gabe izzz selllings outs!" Sure he's more popular and famous now, but he's still got that same genuine smile, which says a lot to me. I still respect him very much.
even though i love cobra, i dont hink theyve ever put out a solid album.
theyve had alot of great songs but spread out between three albums(like 3 or 4 good songs on each)
even though i heard of them through viva la cobra its defitely theyre worst, it just sounded half-assed to me.
midtown is the final thing that convinces me i was born at least six years too late all these bands that have become my favourites were popular before i was really old enough to be into my own music.
Take no offense but yeah that dude got it correct, many 15 years old believe themselves to know everything and are the center of the world..wait until reality kicks in and well yeah, hahaha.
ha man this is funny cuz i dont do this but guys i get on here watch vids of bands i listen to bands i listened to when i was growing up and i see people freakin out cuz they broke up and went to another band guys its just music get over it who cares
Cobra is a awesome band. I support them 100% because they've gotten so big. Gabe's having a good time with it, so as fans of Midtown and Cobra we should be happy like he is.
Hey now, one can still like Gabe Saporta but not necessarily like CS.
I like Pirates of the Caribbean but I'm not a fan of Kiera whatever her face is whom always does those period piece movies. If she does another period piece, I'm going to vomit! Hahaha.
Cobra is more about fun and saying eff it with everyone, it's not meant to be taken seriously. But I agree, I've heard Hot Mess is really a hot mess, hahaha.
lol it is a hot mess indeedy, but this song when I heard it was was like no way GABE sang this?! GABEEE lol I only heard of cobra stuff first. but i love this old stuff, cobra needs a darker edge, buts its fun
you guys are basically calling cobra shit, because of the fact Gabe is now in it. I love Midtown, and Cobra is fantastic and yes, a lot of fun. The break up of Midtown could not have possibly been purely because of Gabe's decision.. right?
yeah, cobra was a side project for gabe. and he enjoyed it and continued it. basically telling the people below not to hate on cobra because of the fact gabes in it instead of midtown.
They could have, but I think the whole Drive Thru Records fiasco left a sour note on many people's tongue and then many bands boomed right after that. The scene changed so fast, Midtown had been around since 1998 and I think their "height" was around 2001-2003. I hate that people say they are like other bands, they are not, sure they have some heart break songs, but there was always deeper meaning behind the lyrics. And the last album was amazing, very dark and deep.
But they are! Sixteen years old and under wanting to jump a 30 yrs old man's ass, hahaha, I mean he maybe hot and he may be sexy but don't plan on having hot sex with him, hahahahaha.
geeez everytime I hear a Midtown song it makes me sad Gabe is running around is that horrible Cobra Startship band....come on man come back to some real music.
Well you cannot really blame him. Many fans abandoned Midtown in the later years. Many shows were empty and did not sell out. I know, I went to over a dozen shows in 2004 from West to East. Gabe had to find another muse for his time.
nah. I think they would have been indie for the rest of their careers or the music scene's best kept secret. now if pete wentz signed them then yes; they would have been the biggest act on decaydance. I love midtown though, honest music by honest people
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gabe must be surrounded by a bunch of yes men to ever think that he should ditch midtown and start that turd of a band cobra starship... even their name is retarded...
Let me reiterate this for the few who seem to believe this is an open forum and discussion: Comments here are heavily biased towards Midtown and in a positive tone only. Any discussion about Gabe, Tyler, Rob and Heath in Midtown or their other projects are welcomed only to the extent that one does not compare any better than the other. At my discretion, I shall block/delete any comments that steps outside this restriction. Why? Because I can, if you do not agree, do not comment.
FYI, I have been moderating these post for nearly 3 years and shall continue to do so...and yes, I have nothing better to do with my time then to annoy the heck out of ignorant teenagers who cannot spell nor use proper English!
does anybody else think gabe did the whole music career thing totally backwards?
he had the really fucking amazing and serious band with good music and real emotion first when all the midtown boys were young.
then gabe, at almost thirty, started doing drugs (more openly? idk if he was as narcotic-dependant during the midtown years) and formed the weird synth-pop goofy band with shitty lyrics and tacky wardrobes.
i don't understand why somebody didn't stop him and be like WTF are you thinking?
Gabe has managed to have to good, successful bands. The versitility he has is admirable. It may be weird, shitty and tacky but it's successful, it's gone frther than Midtown has. Both are great bands. And the bigger concern is his alcoholism.
Hahaha, have you seen a drunken Gabe...on stage? Back on the Reggie tour of 2003, Gabe was so wasted, he couldn't even stand, let alone play his bass...someone from MCR or some band had to cover for his ass.
And there was a time long ago when Gabe passed out in the middle of a street, too wasted to even find his way back to the van. Hahaha, there's no alcoholism there of course, it's just Gabe being Gabe.
gabe looks and sounds so different than he does now. like he's still crazy amazing and i love cobra and midtown, but i just dont feel like theyre the same person (i know they are, dont worry, i'm not stupid.)
Everyone's talking about how Gabe has changed and how he's this alter ego now.
Well, I'm a rather new fan (got into Cobra Starship last summer, got into Midtown around Christmas) and I'd like it if someone could explain the difference to me :)
I don't know because I just listen to the music and see the difference there, but I don't really watch their interviews.
Ditto, what that person said. His "Cobra" side always existed, but the band is an outlet for him to express it without compromising more "depth" and "important" things, if there exist such a thing, hahaha. If you've followed his career for as long as I have, you know, he's pretty much the same, maybe a few wrinkles showing up, jk, HAHAHAHA.
That would make you 11 or 12 then right? Since the last show Midtown performed as a group was sometime in 2005...maybe early 2006, I'm forgetting much in my old old old age...and Gabe is older than me, lol.
Hahaha. When it comes to wiki, always error on the side of caution and assume it is most likely is incorrect. I know 2004 is definitely wrong because I saw them at the Downtown on Long Island in early 2005 (that place of course has shutdown, not sure if something new opened in its place). They were suppose to play a brief set in June of 2006 in Jersey for a release of some DVD, but Gabe bailed to head out to LA to film the video for "Bring It" or "Snakes on a Plane".
Hahaha, and it was that summer when "Hollaback Boy" or "Hollerback Boy" the spoof to Gwen Stefani's song was released online and the simple Cobra Starship Myspace page was made. Oh how time flies....
hah yes, he made the myspace like during the last tour. cobra kinda over lapped with midtown in a werid sense. i remember like my last days of highschool playing hollaback boy to people thinking it was the best thing ever.
wane i got a video mission for you, the halloween 2005 interview on fuse with gabe and rob. i remember not answering to the door to like 10 kids and turning off the lights in my house to watch it. its got to be out there somewhere.
OMG, I had an Organic Chemistry Exam the next day so I probably forgot to watch it. Dude, they have so many interviews that I didn't record. Like the Sirius Radio one they did Summer 2003. They played some cover songs, one of which was released...Sister Golden Hair. I do have the Live performance of Give It Up where Nicole Richie was also there being interviewed prior to Midtown playing but it's on VHS and a shitty copy at best.
Most likely a different persona he's trying to portray. There are some clips of him on here, taken from stickam when the guys were in the mountains working on the album, where he did play an acoustic guitar, at least he remembers to play, right? Hahaha.
ohh, i knwo eh?? i would love to go to a Midtown concert. speaking of concerts, people should go to Taste of Chaos . It was unbelievable!!! && cant wait for Warped '09!
yep like someone said before Midtown>Cobra Starship
BrandNewThrice2 1 week ago
such a fucking great band. Listen to while studying. Greets from Croatia!
system0system0 2 weeks ago
i would have loved to see these guys play but i couldn't since i was like 12 when they split :(
callmetoocrazy 2 months ago
@callmetoocrazy Wow, you're young! Gabe's old...32 ;)
krazywane 2 months ago
@krazywane yep nineteen years young! :)
callmetoocrazy 2 months ago
music of my childhood! love these guys sooo much!
callmetoocrazy 2 months ago
@callmetoocrazy Me too! I miss Tyler most. I still talk to Gabe and Rob when they're in town or when I'm in NY but Tyler, I never hear from him. Heath, well, hmmm....no idea lol
krazywane 2 months ago
It hurts me to see how you can insult Gabe easily. Midtown wasn't Gabe. Stop talking about him. Get over the fact that they are doing other stuff now. Yes, Midtown is a lot better (coming from someone who loves cobra) but that's it. You can't change anything. Maybe cobra is pointless to you, but not for me, they are great & talented people. Gabe hasn't forgot Midtown, he signed my record 3 weeks ago & he had a huge smile on his face. Let him enjoy what he's doing,stop complaining, stop comparing
rainydayskid 4 months ago 6
@rainydayskid Who are you commenting this answer to?
krazywane 4 months ago
@krazywane everyone who's insulting them.
rainydayskid 4 months ago
Gabe can play a mean bass. Now these lyrics mean something good. Cobra is good too, Midtown is just more, raw.
MUSTangGRAD2011 5 months ago
I wish I didnt just didnt stumble on one of Midtowns videos recently. I wish I did a long time ago before they broke up cause this band rocks.
foxyfoxpox 8 months ago 4
@foxyfoxpox Yup
krazywane 8 months ago
i think these guys wouldve had a badass tour with eve 6 and early jimmy eat world
sp00g3892 10 months ago
Midtown saves. <3
crankdatriahhx 10 months ago
lovve diz sonqq:)))
n gabe is so hott
theScEnESqUeAk3r 10 months ago 3
I feel really bad that I just started listening to them. I wish I had known them sooner or be older. Cobra Starship is my favorite band, but this also shows that Gabe has a lot of talent with two different types of music in his career. This is definately my favorite Midtown song. It also doesnt hurt any that Gabe is gorgeous, now and then.
abigailchristie2013 1 year ago 16
@abigailchristie2013 Yes, Mr. Saporta has always been one fine and sexy douche bag!
krazywane 1 year ago 5
@abigailchristie2013 Sorry but Cobra Starship is crap compared to Midtown.......I've been listen to Midtown before the became popular ( worked on the street team and everything) they were crazy good live as well, not taking anything away from Cobra Starship, I've seen them live as well....... Rocking Show !!!!!
krivo101 11 months ago 5
@krivo101 It's all relative. Midtown's music had its place and turn in time. But that time has passed, even Gabe has accepted it. I would give anything to see Midtown live again, but oh well, that ship has sank. At least I got to see them over 20 times while they were still around. And Gabe, well, at least he knows I'm alive hahaha
krazywane 11 months ago
@krazywane I'm sorry but you can't compare Midtown to Cobra. Midtown was great musicians writing great songs about life. and it was genuine and real expressions of where Gabe was at. Cobra is a joke. their songs are entirely meaningless and are to make money. Gabe sold out. it's not just a different time, it's different motivation entirely.
gap1501 7 months ago
@gap1501 Well, if you listen to Cobra's earlier albums, you can tell that the goal wasn't to sell out. It was just Gabe having fun and experimenting with new music. I will admit though, they have sold out. But that was recent, so it's unfair for people to say that Cobra was ALWAYS about the money. Overall though, even if Cobra hadn't sold out, Midtown will always be the best of the two. I wish I'd gotten the chance to see them live :(
xochocolatechips 4 months ago in playlist :)
@xochocolatechips we can argue when they sold out all day. I will just say Gabe is the definition of sell out in our generation and I hate him for that. I sincerely wish Cobra would bomb and he would reunite Midtown and have that bomb too. I want no success for him ever again. I wouldn't go to a Midtown reunion show, it would be a hollow pointless cash grab. Glad I saw them back in the day before the selling out and betrayal to the fans.
gap1501 4 months ago
@xochocolatechips we can argue when they sold out all day. I will just say Gabe is the definition of sell out in our generation and I hate him for that. I sincerely wish Cobra would bomb and he would reunite Midtown and have that bomb too. I want no success for him ever again. I wouldn't go to a Midtown reunion show, it would be a hollow pointless cash grab. Glad I saw them back in the day before the selling out and betrayal to the fans.
gap1501 4 months ago
@gap1501 Well you kno what, fuck you then! Block yo ass!!!
krazywane 4 months ago
Gabe <3
c3cile95 1 year ago
@c3cile95 Get off my man!!! Jk hahaha, I <3 Gabe, well love to hate him! Jk hahaha, he's a nice douchebag unlike myself and mean and nasty douchebag! ;p
krazywane 1 year ago
I just started listen to midtown and I can already tell that they are going to become one of my favorite bands soon. Love that song.
94sasuhina 1 year ago
I really fucking miss this band. Glad they were around to make a few albums!
GuanoBowl 1 year ago
Stop posting shitty comments! I will block you and delete the comment, no one will see them again! Fuck off!
krazywane 1 year ago 6
@cvg1099 Are you a dumbfuck? Empty like the ocean is referring to being drunk, partying, fucking, all of which are pretty much empty! and um... I'm sorry "stupidest?" Don't talk if you DO NOT know how to. Ugh. Seriously. You can't take things so litterally. Music would lose its touch. You must of thought you were smart or something...
reboundeffective 1 year ago
@cvg1099 lol i can c whos dun their science homework, but honestly dude, its music, not biology and if u dont c the phylosifical meaning behind this title, then evrything u just said makes u sound like a sad dork wiv no taste in music, no friends n no life who just sits around studyin the percentage of water on this planet so how about u shut the fuck up n stop dissing them!
saffievilvampire 1 year ago
@saffievilvampire Hahaha, I blocked his ass...he posted comments on my page, deleted as well :D
krazywane 1 year ago
I like the music, but I'm not a fan of his voice. I find it very annoying. It's a shame, really... :/
livingdeadevilthing 1 year ago
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@cvg1099 FUCK OFF!!!!
krazywane 1 year ago
This is a wonderful song! I love Gabe and I support whatever he does, I do have to admit I am a fangster, but i'll always have a different love for Midtown than Cobra.
loginhere101 1 year ago
This is in my top 5 midtown songs definitely.
caroline1697 1 year ago
can some one give their interpetation of this song...i need someone elses opiniun. he sounds heartbroken yet angry. lost confused
joejonas1811 1 year ago
@joejonas1811 why? what does it mean for you? literal meaning? hidden subtext? songs from forget what you know has too many multiple meanings, what matters is how you find it applicable to yourself. if you had asked me what i thought of this song back in 2004, i would not give the same answer today. pm me what you think it means....maybe i'll pass along the discussion to latin lover boy for his constructive breakdown of your interpretation ;)
krazywane 1 year ago
@krazywane I think it may have something to do with a bad breakup and then he's at some party and sees her there
joejonas1811 1 year ago
@joejonas1811 or maybe the complete dissolution of the human existence and left with only isolation and an uncertain salvation? just kidding, hahaha, such a tragedy of the human condition indeed...wait, did i just quote a title in this text? i'm so retarded and weird, hahaha
krazywane 1 year ago
whatever gabe does is amazing. period.
julieXcobrastyle 1 year ago 3
Great song from a great album.
rayMacy 1 year ago
I like cobra starship but i loveeeeee midtown.
XblessingxXx 1 year ago
Gabe has a very addicting voice.
iVintagePunk13 1 year ago 2
2:19 aaahh! future signature move!!!!
turk2336 2 years ago 2
lol...they're actually good :P...and they're not my type of music...WHAT?!
XxSLauGhTeRKiTtEn 2 years ago 2
i wish gabe would carry his base around when with cobra starship...
fyilol 2 years ago 4
оmg. it's amazing. i miss midtown so much.
doctortomatoxoxo 2 years ago 4
I love Cobra Starship but I seriously miss seeing Gabe with a bass in his hands...I miss midtown :(
falloutboyfan9812 2 years ago 5
I miss them too
worldwidewweb 2 years ago 2
this song so amazing
saxaphoneg 2 years ago 3
Love them... amazing band.. And the guys in MCR like them too *-----------*
xxIsxSweetxxRevengex 2 years ago 2
i like them SO much better than cobra starship.
melissasalcroup 2 years ago
Wow, this is great. I haven't listened to Midtown before but I'm truly impressed. Cobra's cool. But this music is amazing.
2DsLUV 2 years ago 18
i miss midtownnnnn:(
HeyGennie 2 years ago
Perfect Band <3
Girlsaportaa 2 years ago
they remind me of fall out boy's old music for some reason. but still great. i really wish i could have seen them live. :(
TaintedNightshade 2 years ago
Pete was a huge fan of Midtown, so the influence seeped into old FOB.
Ranger1649 2 years ago 4
i love midtown
faith971 2 years ago 3
Everyone's having fun, and that's what matters.Gabe's enjoying Cobra and the other members are enjoying their own acts and lives.Gabe himself said he felt the need to break away from the type of lyrics and song he wrote in FWYK because they were too personal.Cobra's ok, but I don't take them as seriously because they are supposed to be more of a "fun band". I wish I'd got to see Midtown, but I was too young at that time to 1)appreciate this music or 2)go to the shows. I envy you old people, lol.
Swiftlygothedays 2 years ago 37
Hey, still not as old as Gabe!!! Grandpa still has a leg up on me there, hahaha
krazywane 2 years ago
@Swiftlygothedays I'm only 20 and I saw them in 2004 (I was 14). GREAT experience; I actually got asked to hang out with Heath after the show at the merch table but stupid me passed it up to hug lostprophets since they threatened to kick this guys ass for punching me in the crowd. good times!
to me both Midtown and Cobra are great reflections of Gabe's music ability. People say he's changed since then but he really hasn't. People just don't bother to look hard enough...
BDPJenn 1 year ago
@BDPJenn I saw them about 10 times live in 2004! Los Angeles Troubadour Feb 2004, Detroit, Pomona, San Diego all in May 2004, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania August 2004, New York Nov 2004, New Jersey Dec 2004. No wonder they call me "krazy"! Hahaha, Gabe has not changed, other than articulating his responses in impromtu interviews more cautiously as to not recreate another Drive-Thru incident, LOL.
krazywane 1 year ago
@BDPJenn
Well, you're still an old person! I kid! I kid..Sounds like good times, ahaha.
Yeah, I'll agree with the Gabe not changing thing. i saw his face on a huge banner while buying a dress at Macy's. Many would have said, "Oh noes! Gabe izzz selllings outs!" Sure he's more popular and famous now, but he's still got that same genuine smile, which says a lot to me. I still respect him very much.
Swiftlygothedays 1 year ago
Mind. Blown.
babyloubee 2 years ago
Gabe is now the lead for Cobra Starship. Also pretty good music, but no Midtown... :(
kitk01 2 years ago
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kinda reminds me of green day and blink 182 mixed together...
againstalldorks 2 years ago
Uhm gabe hasnt changed? Maybe the clothes he wore and friends he hangs out with but Ive liked him since midtown
dancer4lifelover 2 years ago 4
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I miss the old Gabe. D:
NuclearxNiki 2 years ago
Midtowns amazing and so is cobra starship
dancer4lifelover 2 years ago 5
even though i love cobra, i dont hink theyve ever put out a solid album.
theyve had alot of great songs but spread out between three albums(like 3 or 4 good songs on each)
even though i heard of them through viva la cobra its defitely theyre worst, it just sounded half-assed to me.
midtown is the final thing that convinces me i was born at least six years too late all these bands that have become my favourites were popular before i was really old enough to be into my own music.
fuck 1994 xD
problemsarnumbers 2 years ago 6
Hahaha, yeah it does suck. Wow, you're only 15, omg.
krazywane 2 years ago
Yeah, what do you mean by "Only fifteen" haha.
problemsarnumbers 2 years ago
Most 15 year olds don't understand what good pop-punk is. Haha, props to you man.
Ranger1649 2 years ago 3
Ha, I guess...I'm into a lot of genres but pop-punks probably the one I'm most into.
Whenever I TRY to get my friends into some of the music I listen to they somehow end up in Cute is What We Aim For territory.
uuuhg.
problemsarnumbers 2 years ago 2
Take no offense but yeah that dude got it correct, many 15 years old believe themselves to know everything and are the center of the world..wait until reality kicks in and well yeah, hahaha.
krazywane 2 years ago
None taken haha.
problemsarnumbers 2 years ago
Girl, fuck 1993 too. :((
eminemgirl313 2 years ago
ha man this is funny cuz i dont do this but guys i get on here watch vids of bands i listen to bands i listened to when i was growing up and i see people freakin out cuz they broke up and went to another band guys its just music get over it who cares
bub1204 2 years ago
What?
2DsLUV 2 years ago
Shame on you Shivani!
Cobra is a awesome band. I support them 100% because they've gotten so big. Gabe's having a good time with it, so as fans of Midtown and Cobra we should be happy like he is.
HunterJumper346 2 years ago 5
Hey now, one can still like Gabe Saporta but not necessarily like CS.
I like Pirates of the Caribbean but I'm not a fan of Kiera whatever her face is whom always does those period piece movies. If she does another period piece, I'm going to vomit! Hahaha.
krazywane 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure even Gabe admits that what he's doing with Cobra is pretty ridiculous. Take another look at the lyrics to "Being From New Jersey..."
Ranger1649 2 years ago
Yes, I agree.
krazywane 2 years ago
Midtown's good...Cobra's awesome...
stop it with the hating you guys...:)
metanoiaXXpaulinians 2 years ago
Heath used to be in my favorite band Senes Fail But he left after warped tour this year=(
Shivani2496 2 years ago
Heath Is Still The Best!
No Matter What No On Cant Replace Him!!!!
Senses Fail And Midtown Rules!!!!
kank562 2 years ago
Yeah! I am in love with those bands=D i don't like cobra starship though=P
Shivani2496 2 years ago
luv it, luv it, luv it.
ThePotNoodlePerson 2 years ago 3
goooood sonn(:
going on my ipod this minutee.
saralollipop6 2 years ago 2
you guys are all blaming the break up on Gabe's movement to Cobra Starship.
woahjoebro 2 years ago
one of the best bands ever...
carolineNveronica92 2 years ago 2
GABE SAPORTA IS AMAZING
purpleroomperson10 2 years ago 4
where the hell did this band go...ahh brings so many memories..
chanelsnowboarder336 2 years ago 2
I know, right? They were so good. D=
I still like Cobra, but they're a joke.
They're fun to listen to, but Midtown is so much better.
vikkilicious12465 2 years ago
yah and gabe is like so much younger and so much cuter:)
chanelsnowboarder336 2 years ago
where did this band go? well they broke up and now gabe's in cobra starship but i wish they were together again :(
samanthaXlovesXu 2 years ago
you know whats annoying?
this whole "aw boo mainstream" thing.
uh. it wouldnt be in existance if some douche didnt say hey thats...
and then people wouldnt be all aw cobras mainstream.
uh nt rly.
Haley1812 2 years ago
Cobra is more about fun and saying eff it with everyone, it's not meant to be taken seriously. But I agree, I've heard Hot Mess is really a hot mess, hahaha.
krazywane 2 years ago
lol it is a hot mess indeedy, but this song when I heard it was was like no way GABE sang this?! GABEEE lol I only heard of cobra stuff first. but i love this old stuff, cobra needs a darker edge, buts its fun
itsroxc89 2 years ago
you guys are basically calling cobra shit, because of the fact Gabe is now in it. I love Midtown, and Cobra is fantastic and yes, a lot of fun. The break up of Midtown could not have possibly been purely because of Gabe's decision.. right?
woahjoebro 2 years ago 3
it was a mutual decision.
it got boring for them.
gabe didn't leave to make cobra.
xmrsxbillxkaulitzx 2 years ago 3
yeah, cobra was a side project for gabe. and he enjoyed it and continued it. basically telling the people below not to hate on cobra because of the fact gabes in it instead of midtown.
woahjoebro 2 years ago 3
They could have, but I think the whole Drive Thru Records fiasco left a sour note on many people's tongue and then many bands boomed right after that. The scene changed so fast, Midtown had been around since 1998 and I think their "height" was around 2001-2003. I hate that people say they are like other bands, they are not, sure they have some heart break songs, but there was always deeper meaning behind the lyrics. And the last album was amazing, very dark and deep.
krazywane 2 years ago
But they are! Sixteen years old and under wanting to jump a 30 yrs old man's ass, hahaha, I mean he maybe hot and he may be sexy but don't plan on having hot sex with him, hahahahaha.
krazywane 2 years ago
I like the Midtown fans more than many of the Cobra ones. Those little girls are freaky, hahaha.
krazywane 2 years ago
geeez everytime I hear a Midtown song it makes me sad Gabe is running around is that horrible Cobra Startship band....come on man come back to some real music.
codenamedestruction 2 years ago
Well you cannot really blame him. Many fans abandoned Midtown in the later years. Many shows were empty and did not sell out. I know, I went to over a dozen shows in 2004 from West to East. Gabe had to find another muse for his time.
krazywane 2 years ago
2:22 awesome!!!
snowball3707 2 years ago
gabe saporta SIEMPRE AH SIDO SEXY xD ♥ loamo :3
Alma7bl 2 years ago
well i recently became a fan of cobra starship and then found out about this too .. totally different O.o wiht gabe and all
harjot101 2 years ago
i love this band ... ♥
Gnomking 2 years ago
I have fallen in love with Midtown
zeldagirl2524 2 years ago 4
Who wouldn't? Hahaha.
krazywane 2 years ago
lol freaks!!
zeldagirl2524 2 years ago
But they don't count, they are brainless, tasteless, resource wasting excuse for a living organism, hahahaha.
krazywane 2 years ago
ha ha true
zeldagirl2524 2 years ago
Midtown could have been so big. </3
princesslaurenbrooke 2 years ago
Yeah, could have but oh well, I guess that era is long gone now.
krazywane 2 years ago
nah. I think they would have been indie for the rest of their careers or the music scene's best kept secret. now if pete wentz signed them then yes; they would have been the biggest act on decaydance. I love midtown though, honest music by honest people
BDPJenn 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
gabe must be surrounded by a bunch of yes men to ever think that he should ditch midtown and start that turd of a band cobra starship... even their name is retarded...
cmistler13 2 years ago
Ahhh. Midtown.
One of the best bands ever. I dont care that they broke up.
Midtown's awesome, and will always be awesome.
HunterJumper346 2 years ago 4
Let me reiterate this for the few who seem to believe this is an open forum and discussion: Comments here are heavily biased towards Midtown and in a positive tone only. Any discussion about Gabe, Tyler, Rob and Heath in Midtown or their other projects are welcomed only to the extent that one does not compare any better than the other. At my discretion, I shall block/delete any comments that steps outside this restriction. Why? Because I can, if you do not agree, do not comment.
krazywane 2 years ago
FYI, I have been moderating these post for nearly 3 years and shall continue to do so...and yes, I have nothing better to do with my time then to annoy the heck out of ignorant teenagers who cannot spell nor use proper English!
krazywane 2 years ago
haha.
lusttomybrain 2 years ago
lol butthurt channel owner
SeanL116 2 years ago
Somebody has to do it...and in this case, me, hahaha.
krazywane 2 years ago
Agreed! Oh well.
krazywane 2 years ago
does anybody else think gabe did the whole music career thing totally backwards?
he had the really fucking amazing and serious band with good music and real emotion first when all the midtown boys were young.
then gabe, at almost thirty, started doing drugs (more openly? idk if he was as narcotic-dependant during the midtown years) and formed the weird synth-pop goofy band with shitty lyrics and tacky wardrobes.
i don't understand why somebody didn't stop him and be like WTF are you thinking?
xcarscollidex3 2 years ago
oh noes! didn't mean to influence a billion butthurt comments.
i was making a joke! kind of. not really.
this is meant to be a funny-but-true statement guiseee jeeeezzz.
xcarscollidex3 2 years ago
Gabe has managed to have to good, successful bands. The versitility he has is admirable. It may be weird, shitty and tacky but it's successful, it's gone frther than Midtown has. Both are great bands. And the bigger concern is his alcoholism.
justbeatit100 2 years ago 10
alcoholism?
rawritsannie 2 years ago
Hahaha, have you seen a drunken Gabe...on stage? Back on the Reggie tour of 2003, Gabe was so wasted, he couldn't even stand, let alone play his bass...someone from MCR or some band had to cover for his ass.
And there was a time long ago when Gabe passed out in the middle of a street, too wasted to even find his way back to the van. Hahaha, there's no alcoholism there of course, it's just Gabe being Gabe.
krazywane 2 years ago
A Drunken Gabe?
Haha. I've heard stories.
But it's like you said. Its Gabe being Gabe.
But I can't believe he was so wasted that they had to get someone from MCR or another band to cover for him.
Hahaha.
HunterJumper346 2 years ago
D: gabe is awesome.
And this band. It's great.
He's so serious.
sssofiaaaboom 2 years ago
i love seeing Gabe with a bass it just ups his awesomeness level!!!!
xXmafia77Xx 2 years ago 2
His awesomeness only improves with age...at least until he's walking with a cane...oh wait, that already happened, hahaha.
krazywane 2 years ago
gabe looks and sounds so different than he does now. like he's still crazy amazing and i love cobra and midtown, but i just dont feel like theyre the same person (i know they are, dont worry, i'm not stupid.)
juliabesweird 2 years ago 4
i'm asking myself when they will come back to play their last concert in new jersey gabe promised. should be soon.
Rockgirl0808 2 years ago
Oh he's made many many many promises...when I see it, I'll believe it, hahaha.
krazywane 2 years ago
Everyone's talking about how Gabe has changed and how he's this alter ego now.
Well, I'm a rather new fan (got into Cobra Starship last summer, got into Midtown around Christmas) and I'd like it if someone could explain the difference to me :)
I don't know because I just listen to the music and see the difference there, but I don't really watch their interviews.
danceintherain39 3 years ago
um well. he didnt really change that much. his dress style changed. he seems happier now. thats about it.
hes still just as amazing even though i do miss bass player gabe, but cobra gabe dances so it kinda makes up for it.
jephalove 3 years ago
Bass Gabe is Awesome Gabe. Cobra Gabe is Sexy Gabe. AS far as I know, Gabe is a Babe! A Damn fine one at that, hahaha.
krazywane 3 years ago
AGREED!
FILLyouWithRegret 2 years ago
Ditto, what that person said. His "Cobra" side always existed, but the band is an outlet for him to express it without compromising more "depth" and "important" things, if there exist such a thing, hahaha. If you've followed his career for as long as I have, you know, he's pretty much the same, maybe a few wrinkles showing up, jk, HAHAHAHA.
krazywane 3 years ago
Oh, okay, thanks.
As much as I would have loved to know Midtown when they were a band, I was eight when they broke up, so yeah.
Don't judge me on my age, I can't control it.
danceintherain39 2 years ago
That would make you 11 or 12 then right? Since the last show Midtown performed as a group was sometime in 2005...maybe early 2006, I'm forgetting much in my old old old age...and Gabe is older than me, lol.
krazywane 2 years ago
hahah, shit, i'm so bad at math. I'm fifteen.
I wasn't sure of when they broke up, and wiki said 2004. I mistakenly thought 2004-1994 was eight. I added the fours.
that's what happens when i get no sleep.
danceintherain39 2 years ago
Hahaha. When it comes to wiki, always error on the side of caution and assume it is most likely is incorrect. I know 2004 is definitely wrong because I saw them at the Downtown on Long Island in early 2005 (that place of course has shutdown, not sure if something new opened in its place). They were suppose to play a brief set in June of 2006 in Jersey for a release of some DVD, but Gabe bailed to head out to LA to film the video for "Bring It" or "Snakes on a Plane".
krazywane 2 years ago
i saw the few last shows, i was may 2005.
osker33 2 years ago
Hahaha, and it was that summer when "Hollaback Boy" or "Hollerback Boy" the spoof to Gwen Stefani's song was released online and the simple Cobra Starship Myspace page was made. Oh how time flies....
krazywane 2 years ago
hah yes, he made the myspace like during the last tour. cobra kinda over lapped with midtown in a werid sense. i remember like my last days of highschool playing hollaback boy to people thinking it was the best thing ever.
wane i got a video mission for you, the halloween 2005 interview on fuse with gabe and rob. i remember not answering to the door to like 10 kids and turning off the lights in my house to watch it. its got to be out there somewhere.
osker33 2 years ago
OMG, I had an Organic Chemistry Exam the next day so I probably forgot to watch it. Dude, they have so many interviews that I didn't record. Like the Sirius Radio one they did Summer 2003. They played some cover songs, one of which was released...Sister Golden Hair. I do have the Live performance of Give It Up where Nicole Richie was also there being interviewed prior to Midtown playing but it's on VHS and a shitty copy at best.
krazywane 2 years ago
i can rip vhs if you want it up
osker33 2 years ago
Hahaha, one day...for now it's collecting dust somewhere in one of my boxes from the VHS era.
krazywane 2 years ago
Okay, thanks for setting me straight :)
danceintherain39 2 years ago
3:01
random...
i luv this band
Fangs3311 3 years ago
Hahaha.
SCENE 117
OMITTED
Heath Scared to
Ride Between Subway Cars
krazywane 3 years ago
why doesn't gabe play bass ever anymore with cobra starship??
that would kick ass, yo.
tunezjunkie87 3 years ago
Most likely a different persona he's trying to portray. There are some clips of him on here, taken from stickam when the guys were in the mountains working on the album, where he did play an acoustic guitar, at least he remembers to play, right? Hahaha.
krazywane 3 years ago
yesh, Gabe is AMAZING on bass but Ryland is the AMAZING bass player in CS...., <33
FILLyouWithRegret 2 years ago
Imagine Gabe playing on guitar for Saves the Day? Oh wait, it never happened...hahaha, they turned him down.
krazywane 2 years ago
this is my favorite song from midtown...
wish i sould have gone to one their conserts... :(
AmazinglyAcousticore 3 years ago
ohh, i knwo eh?? i would love to go to a Midtown concert. speaking of concerts, people should go to Taste of Chaos . It was unbelievable!!! && cant wait for Warped '09!
FILLyouWithRegret 2 years ago
Sucks Cobra isn't going to be on this year's lineup.
VIVALASTEPHANI3 2 years ago
I really wish I knew this band when they were still together. I really love this band and song.
MKOHLER2008 3 years ago 2
Yup. They are amazing...are because I still have faith that one day the four of them will get it together and just rock and roll.
krazywane 3 years ago
I hope so. =)
MKOHLER2008 3 years ago
wait
so
are you saying that gabe saporta conforms to the demands of the public?
rather than doing what he wants ?
just to be popular?
im not mad or anything
im just confused
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