Pierrepoint - The Last Hangman

[noonsight2010]

In fact people did not laud executioners, certainly not from the late 19th century until abolition. People had a morbid fascination, which is something quite different. Public opinion was largely opposed to the death penalty.

Ex- New Scotland Yard Crime (formerly Black) Museum staff.

[Noogai45]

It's funny how people lauded Pierrepoint for what he did then all of a sudden start heckling him for being a murderer. Thats human beings for you, they just can't make up their minds.

[rickker20]

This guy is the one that hang Irma Grese the women Nazi and also Joseph Kramer the commandant of Bergen Belsen.

[tomlacovara]

I would pull the handle trigger or inject if I were put in that position. When I was very angry, murderously so, the thought of what the punishment would be stopped me! Therefore it does in fact in m y own experience work!!! It may not stop murder but it does cut it down ....period!!!

[luckyissexy]

not seen this yet but it looks good n wot wuld u rather be hanged or injected n bring back the death pently n maybe the crime rate will drop

[CryingFreeman123]

@luckyissexy: Nonsense, capital punishment doesn't work as a deterrent. The USA have the highest murder rate in the Western world, and they execute people right. left and centre. If capital punishment really worked as a deterrent, there should hardly be any murders in the USA at all.

[vulpecula999]

the LAST hangman - think a history lesson is in order

[MowgliX]

No civilized country can keep the death penalty any longer! I am totally against it.

[theblackmafia71]

@MowgliX But we don't live in a (CIVILIZED) country any more

FACT!

[DeepSixed300]

@MowgliX I truely and honestly respect your opinion on this most emotive of issues, but I am afraid accusations of whether or not Capital Punishment makes a nation more or less civilised is purely a matter of opinion.

[MowgliX]

@DeepSixed300 In my opinion it isn't. Any country in the world in which the central government provides legal support for the killing of its own citizens cannot be called civilized.

[baraxor]

Doing a proper hanging is an art (clean drop to break the neck, no slow strangulation or decapitation)...are there weren't enough talented artists to go around.

[CryingFreeman123]

@baraxor: The question is more whether a civilised nation can ask its own members to take part in the killing of a person. Can we demand from our judges to sentence people to death? Can we demand from our prison guards to put and keep inmates on death row, often for more than a decade. And finally: Can we ask people to perform executions (= killings) of other human beings. After all, even murderers are human beings, and killing other human beings is always an act of extreme inhumanity.

[baraxor]

@CryingFreeman123

In reply: 1. Judges appointed by a democratic government to administer democratically-created laws should enforce them, or resign for conscience's sake. 2. Why not, as they'd have to guard dangerous killers for decades longer if reprieved. 3. As we ask people (police, soldiers, even physicians) to kill other people in the name of public safety, national security or mercy, the d.p. cannot be excluded merely on grounds of placing the highest possible premium on human life.

[CryingFreeman123]

@baraxor : Pity that you think that way. At least as a doctor I would outrightly refuse to take part in the killing of a human being, even if the state asked (or ordered) me to. A doctor must refuse that because of the Hippocratic Oath: "I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody if asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect."

[baraxor]

@CryingFreeman123

Then I suppose that you are opposed to state-sanctioned euthanesia? (I am as well, but the law is the law in many places, approved either by direct vote of the people or through their representatives).

[CryingFreeman123]

@baraxor : You're right, I don't support euthanesia.

[PaleHearse]

@CryingFreeman123

Until it's your daughter that gets raped and her throat slit? Just asking?

You see.. long ago I realized that there are people you simply can't risk having get out of prison.. ever. It's not about revenge... or anything so simple.. but the more complex question of if someone is ever worthy of living... next door.

Albert was conflicted on the point.. eventually at his death he had reversed himself again on the death penalty. I expect it's much for anyone.. except them.

[CryingFreeman123]

@PaleHearse : There's a very good reason why there are fair trials with independent and impartial judges and why people are not allowed to take the law into their own hands, even if they are relatives and friends of murder victims.

If you don't want people to ever walk free again, put them in a supermax prison for the rest of their lives.

[PaleHearse]

@CryingFreeman123

That's no guarantee AND you have to pay to do it. The death penalty solves both issues... though I am most focused on the first one. In prison, they may take another prisoners life, or a guards. I have no issue with the death penalty solving that issue alone.

At least you can agree that there are people that you wouldn't EVER want next door to you. That's a start. One day.. perhaps you'll wind up meeting up with one of these folks and it will alter your outlook.

[CryingFreeman123]

@PaleHearse : Capital punishment is much more expensive than locking someone up for life. Because they need to spend millions of dollars in each case to go through all the proper proceedings before they finally kill them.

And no, I will NEVER change my POV on capital punishment. I don't believe in a state that murders its own citizens, not even when it's pretended to be done in the name of justice or in the name of the people. It certainly isn't done in my name!

[CryingFreeman123]

And yes, I certainly agree that there are people who are too dangerous, too much of a menace to humankind to be allowed to walk free. As I said lock them up in a supermax prison for life. And BTW: don't forget to reserve some cells for those politicians who send soldiers to foreign countries to invade and conquer them and rob the people of their oil and other resources.

[theblackmafia71]

@CryingFreeman123 and dont forget to add some cells for the terrorist supporting politicains like

Ken Livingstone

John Mcdonnell

George Gallaway

[PaleHearse]

@CryingFreeman123

Well.. all I can say is that I can only hope that you remain outvoted. I do respect your views.. I just don't agree with them.

[michellef214]

i like this clip but dont no how to download it x

[loveroftruth7]

I just love this film and Tim's sensitive acting in itHAPPY BIRTHDAY TODAY TIMOTHY SPALL!

[askido351]

Yes the Nazis were cruel people but the Idea that Britians' executions are HUMANE is absurd innit? How can an execution of any kind be humane? Good movie though.

[karaloca]

The outcome maybe the same - a dead person.

How you go about it can be completely different.

If you had to choose, would you have your throat slit until you bled to death - halal. Or a lethal injection?

I think this is what they mean by humane.

[superstratboy]

my papa,(grandad) new pierrpoint,he was born in oldham near manchester he is 81 years old,he said that when he spoke to him he was as blunt as a butter knife lol

[FlyingFox1971]

@GermanShepardd Well I'm glad it was an ENGLISHMAN that put the noose around the necks of the german war criminals. and of course Pierrepoint is most certainly NOT burning in hell because it doesn,t exist, if you believe that it does perhaps your the one in fable and fairy tale land........?

[smi88y]

bless,give the thugs an asbo

[mangahead21]

You have fun with that, meanwhile myself and the rest of the progressive, sane and intelligent world will meet your dilusions of grandeur with a heady mix of pity and disdain.

[ncis3416]

neither im jus jewish and theres nothing wrong w jews

[ncis3416]

timothy spall is one of my fav actors this looks amazing!!

[ncis3416]

o shut up u antisemitist im jewish

[napajedlacek]

Zionists Voyeurism At It's Best Zionists want the world to see the Nazis as horrible people that need to die. Just another way to push the holocaust BS. Pierpont was instructed to botch some of the executions. Irma Grese, and others, were strangled rather than have their necks snapped.

[HowAboutSomeTruth1]

Judicial inc eh?

You know something pathetic about that site which posts blatant lies and unproven rhetoric?

The loser who runs it makes up numbers of views at the bottom, 2 million views this video alone should have gotten lmao, yet you're the only one commenting haha

[Evenson107]

How do you know that......and more importantly why has you comment got 5 thumbs up.......?

[auralconcepts]

Nazis WERE horrible people, and they did need to die. And the ones today, well, the same goes for them. I'm not a Jew, but I'd gladly pull the gallows handle on a Nazi, any Nazi, any time.

[napajedlacek]

dont watch too match TV ....

you sounds like usefull idiot for all the ZIonists rulers

[AWTD]

I don't know if I'd go see that movie, but that fellow has the perfect face to play Huey Long.

[InstantMix]

Hurr spoiler:

He hangs the tish person - The guy singing with him at the start

[SPAG22]

Why did they omit Bentley?

[LoneOutlaw1]

:26, "be good dear. off to hang someone I'll be back for lunch"

[NannyWhip]

Smashing acting and atmosphere. Hopelessly inaccurate unfortunately.

[SPAG22]

You mean fortunately. It's a film after all. :p

[essexlph]

At the risk of being redundant, it is called 'Capital Punishment', not 'Capital Deterrence' . It is a penalty not a preventative. I grant you over the decades it was applied precociously, the poor usually the loosers. However, with the systems of safe-guards and what seems like endless reviews and appeals the chances of executing an innocent person has pretty much been removed. As the grandson of a murder victum I think I can speak on the subject.

[KohrsAKT]

I'm not really anti-death penalty but who cares, anyways good film

[stephensullivan1]

Truly excellent film Timothy Spall should have won an oscar for his performance in this film

[darkmossie633]

Apparently so, but they were no closer

than any other regulars at his pub

please correct me if I am wrong

I should really read his autobiography,

which I have read parts of in other media, in which Pierrepoint attached no particular sentiment or significance (as film would have you believe) to this man and his execution

'artistic license' I think they call it

the film did not need it, it was strong enough as it was

[darkmossie633]

Timothy Spall the actor did not look like Pierrepoint, and the close relationship with fellow singer in his pub he eventually hanged, did not exist

-scarecrow in field etc

otherwise a very haunting film on

hanging, brilliantly acted by Spall

[ianclivewright]

did he ever meet pierrepoint?

[vdsantos11]

you're agreat human being mr.pierrepoint!

[SPAG22]

What the hell are they singing at the start?

[SabuPtolemy]

"Makin' Whoopee" written by Walter Donaldson & Gus Kahn in 1928 and performed by Tish'n'Tosh (actors Eddie Marsan & Timothy Spall). Tish, aka James Corbitt, i.e. Pierrepoints pub pal, and Tosh = nick for Pierrepoint himself.

[SPAG22]

Thanks :)

[klaatu42]

Unexpectedly one of the best films I've seen in years. Flawlessly directed, acted, and edited. Incredible.

[SPAG22]

A true masterpiece. :)

[loveroftruth7]

klaatu42,

It's one of my favourite films now.

[nimos1]

Just a shame then that much of what is depicted in the film is factually inaccurate as is the suggestion that Pierrepoint suffered a crisis of concience which he simply didn't possess. He actually resigned over a dispute about money!

[SPAG22]

Who can say what Pierrepoint was like in private? Money might have been the official reason he gave (he was from the suffer-in-sience generation) but rumour has it he never got over Corbitt.

[nimos1]

Pirrepoint himself & Harry Allen (his assistant) actually who both wrote biographies + listen to the 1974 radio interview with Pierrepoint who a) confirms his belief in capital punishment & b) expresses NO regrets whatseover over ANY of the 608+ executions he carried out. This is all 1st-hand information which proves that the film is tot alnonsense. NO one expects "100% accuracy", but one does expect honesty and integrity with the subject matter since we are talking about a real person.

[SPAG22]

Yeah but what man of that generation would write "I sobbed hysterically in my room for hours on end"?

[deivette]

Where did he write that?

[ianclivewright]

Well whenever do you see a film from a uk director that doesn't push a relentless liberal left wing viewpoint. But that's films for you.

Taken as a stand alone movie, without reference to Albert, it was good, did convey the horror of the last moments, and what an efficient way it was to execute people.

There must have been the odd fuck up though, surely?

It's like vivisection, I can see the need, applaud the benefit, but couldn't do it personally.

[drfarenheight]

west, shipman, huntley, hussein, hitler the names matter not, the fact is there,s something deeply wrong with these VERY DANGEROUS people! So when they get caught after commiting terrible and vile crimes it,s only natural they should have a fair and worthy punishment HANGING! ,I will never understand people who,ll defend them to the enth degree in a bid to "understand" them,, Lets just give em a long drop and get rid =]

[duxforddixie]

If you ever saw the SS women for real, you saw the most hideously vile ugly dreks who ever lived. You can't expect the movie to show them as they were.

[loveroftruth7]

I have been reading Pierrepoint's autobiography and he actually found them quite cute!...............

[essexlph]

While I grant you the majority of the female guards at the camps were brutal looking, two notorious ones, Irma Geise and Jenny Barkmann were rather good looking.

[drfarenheight]

in his 1970,s interview with radio merseyside he said "one life is as good as another" and reflecting on the increase in crime and child murders he said "i,m ready to go again!since 1909 there has never been more than 12-14 executions per year till i retired" Now we are averaging 800 murders per year!!!!!!! WTF =/

[loveroftruth7]

Albert Pierrepoint would have been shocked and horrified at the murders being committed with such impunity today! He died in 1992 so saw much of this terrible trend in our modern times, but it just gets worse and worse. No deterrent = more crime! Have you noticed how many murderers actually appeal against their sentences? Cowards who would have cringed at the thought of Mr Pierrepoint or any other hangman knocking on the cell door! I think he was a role model of his generation.

[SPAG22]

He would have shocked at the murders indeed as he could have carried them out far more efficently himself.

[frantic57744]

yeah n the ian huntley,s n harold shipman,s of this world should have to face a Pierrepoint sucessor the bastard do gooders have fucked this country with their nonsense and political correctness aaaarrrggggghhhhh!!

[Dessan01]

Lol well Shipman did a Pierrepoint on himself in the end!

[SPAG22]

Yeah Shipman was born in the wrong era - he'd have been a pro executioner if he'd been born 60 years eariler.

[frantic57744]

murder as a trend has continued to rise since the abolition of the death sentence the facts speak for themselves...the hanging game is a brutal business=/ england upto about 200 years go had a the most brutal and macarbre penal system in the world..i.e boiling people alive, mutilation,burning at the stake, and btw the drop was a recent development, people tended to strangled over a several minute period by the rope their relatives pulling at their legs to hasten strangulation.

[Dessan01]

It was a really great film, I can ignore the inaccuracies you have to tell a story when youre making these things. The one thing I disagree with, was making Pierrepoint too much of a sympathetic character - efficient as he was, he was also callous a view shared by Clive Revill, who was originally asked to reprise the roll from Let Him Have IT and refused when he saw the script.

[JELH]

Albert Pierrepoint was the man!

[weebug11]

bring back the hanging that means all the neds and sex offenders can be wiped out

[samothraki1]

Should only be released if the authorities can guarantee they will not re-offend. If they do re-offend, the victims should sue the government under the human rights act on the grounds of neglecting to protect the public. That should concentrate the mind.

[smi88y]

if albert was here,the feral yobs wouldnt laugh wen they got a year for knifing a guy!!with me???

[omarthearab81]

films like to spice things up !

[nimos1]

I felt that this film took serious liberties with the truth & the facts. Apart from the minor detail that Timothy Spall looks nothing like Pierrepoint, the real Pierrepoint was certainly NOT a tortured soul as depicted inn the film. How could he be when he executed 608 people? As for the scene when he supposedly executed a close friend, in reality he hardly knew the man aside from his being a customer in his pub. The quote at the end of the film is also misleading...

[zensho1]

Agreed. In a BBC radio interview in 1974, Pierrepoint shows no regret for what he did and, indeed, reverts to his original opinion that the death penalty should be restored. In the same interview he relates somewhat coldly and clinically to the 'acquaintence' that he hanged. Cdertainly not the 'terrible guilt' depicted by the film.

[Dessan01]

I agree that Pierrepoint was much more of a cold, callous individual Read Harry Allens book, who assisted him for years, for some interesting facts. The Capital Punishment, in my opinion, achieved nothing but revenge line was just something to sell Pierrepoints autobiography.

[Dessan01]

However it is said that he confided in some of his closer female friends, in later life, that he never got over hanging Corbett (Tish) and indeed died babbling in a nursing home about having done for him So its safe to say he simply downplayed his view on the execution for public consumption, it obviously did effect him in some way.

[SPAG22]

It's a film not a documentary.

[nimos1]

Who said it was a documentary? This film is supposed to be based upon a real person and real events, whereas it plays fast and loose with the facts, therefore misrepresenting the reality of what actually happened.

[SPAG22]

Yes but you're not supposed to use it as factual information. Plus as you said it's "based" doesn't have to be accurate.

[nimos1]

What's th point of a biographcical film if it totally distorts and deliberately misrepresents the reality of the man and the events? I agree with the

perceptive comments posted by JamesMorganLondon & Eggmangoogoogoojoob.

[SPAG22]

What's the point of making a film if it's a 100% historically accurate? You might as well just read a history book or watch some documentaries.

[nimos1]

By the same token, what's the point about making a biographical film about a real person's life if you totally misrepresent his character and the events? Pierrepoint wrote an autobiography, so it's fair to say he knew himself quite well. In short, the film is a travesty of the truth, even down to the inaccurate title.

[SPAG22]

Yeah but it's not a history lesson.

[ukmaxi]

Also one other thing, what is it with everyone posting a comment on hear, saying this is liberal left wing propaganda. What were the production team supposed to do, dance around the death room with roses, shouting "Bring back Hanging!!". Twisting the whole idea of this film will not wash.Its based on a true story for goodness sake The only thing i see is what people felt at the time, that the worng people were hanged. You don't kill people for a minor offense, Murder though yes i would agree.

[ukmaxi]

For those who may not have realised, but the reason why the death sentance was aboloished was due to the countless times they simply got the wrong man/woman, also convicting people of murder, when it should have been manslaughter. I could be considered a leftist prick as DLPBurke so elegantly puts it, but i do believe we should bring back the death penalty, especially with recent developments in DNA. However Pierrepoint is a brilliant film, showing how hard it is to be a hangman!

[ashingtoon]

I think an eye for an eye, if you kill someone and you are found guilty beyond doubt, you should swing. If someone abducted, tortured, raped and killed your son or daughter what would you want done to the perpetrator? I would want the same done to them, I feel very strongly about that.

[VintageTelevision]

You favor revenge.

[ashingtoon]

Yes vintagetelevision I sure do favour revenge plus if we didn't have to pay the vast amounts of money to keep these low life vermin in breath, the country would not be in such a state. Do you know how much it costs to keep the yorkshire ripper alive? He should have swung in 1981 it would have saved tens of millions that my kids could have benefited from. They should pay REVENGE IS SWEET.

[DLPBurke]

may I also make reference to what pierepoint said later in life after his Autobiog?

>>>>

Pierrepoint also stated "Oh, I could go again" when describing his reaction to particularly vile murder cases.

[paterson1969]

No good will come from killing people no matter who does it.

[DLPBurke]

will it not? How about you tell that to the family's when a released violent criminal or murderer then go on to repeat offence.

You can't see the woods for the trees pal.

[DLPBurke]

not to mention prisons are over crowded and they are a burden on society as we feed and clothe them.

If they murdered, hang the lot of them. too many people have been released adn repeat offende dor murdered because theer is NO DETERRANT;

[ashingtoon]

Here Here well said fuck the liberal's thats why the country is in such a mess FUCKIN DOGOODERS we just don't need them.

[DLPBurke]

I tell you somethin, the leftist pricks we get on here an elsewhere, thet all live in great neighbourhoods, ivory towers.

Put them in the middle of the trouble and watch them change their minds. Winston churchill said it best (if it was him) "A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged"

When murder and rape visit you, lefties, I don't wanna here any Uturns.  You make me sick, you all love the criminal, and here on youtube I can tell you uncensored that you are STUPID CUNTS!

[mush1955]

A great film with fantastic acting. If unfortunately I was sentenced to death I would hope that the man who sent me to " the other side " was a man like Pierrepoint. He did a horrible and difficult job but with compassion and professionally ! somebody had to do it and at least to all accounts he didnt let them suffer ! A quick death and not like being injected like an unwanted puppy

[DLPBurke]

if you do the crime, you should swing.

[VintageTelevision]

That is a depraved point of view.

[DLPBurke]

to you maybe, when your daughter is raped, come back you fuckin moron

[MayorVaughn]

It's heartbreaking that we'll never see his kind again.

[strainmygreens]

In fact, he wasn't the last chief executioner.

That dubious honour goes to Harry Allen who succeeded him.

[PBshowpatterson]

Did he get hanged at the end

[MrsWhitehouseOnline]

Ah, the good old days. I miss them so.

[ukmaxi]

Yeah the good old days when we were all poor, brilliant times!!

[spursloyal71]

And there wasnt that bitch Cherie Blair who pushed her twat of a husband to bring in the Human rights Bill (thats rights for the perpatrator and NOT the victim)!!!!

[SPAG22]

Exactly what the human right not to get mugged, raped, burgled and killed?

[salstream]

with all this knike culture we have now im sure he would have had plenty of over time....

[billhill94]

Wait...is this a film!? Albert Pierrepoint was my grandma's cousin, so we're related! I only found out the other week, so I just searched his name in youtube, and found this!

[smi88y]

im gonna stand up for the dececent working people.gonna challenge the hoodies,the feral youths,the layabouts.then back the corner of the motorist to stop us being the cash cows of the goverment!who,s with me?

[UnwashedAnus]

Im with u brother,this government suck...

[meanvince]

Yep. I'm with you. Being a good member of society is about remembering the needs of others as well as your own. Anyone who disregards that for their own ends is a criminal - anyone who burgles, mugs or vandalises: and anyone who abuses their position to wheedle money from people going about their business is a criminal, too. It's high time we all stood up together and said stop.

[danwar79]

Kara śmierci jest morderstwem, gdyby nie tacy nikczemnicy jak Pierrepoint, świat byłby lepszy.

[boxerlph]

Pierrepoint it seems was a victum of the times. When the world wanted revenge he was the darling. When the victums became the fellon and the fellons the victum he was out of favor. If one were to read the story of Ruth Ellis and how she came to be at the gallows one might consider Mr Pierrepoint in a different light.

[BlackCountryLad]

WE NEED HIM BACK

[moondogjack1978]

He only opposed the death penalty AFTER he retired with a nice state pension. If he truly felt that way he should have quit or not done it at all. The death penalty was invented by primitive man, I thought we are supposed to be civilized now.

[smi88y]

the scum who kicked that guy to death in the uk laughed when they were sentenced to 15 yrs this week.would they laugh at the rope??EXACTLY

[blackwitchone]

i agree, and add brendon harris and ryan herbert the 2 animals who killed sophie lancaster just because she was a goth to the hangmans list too-

[davidgrahamscott]

Gentlemen! I have a film about an execution chamber that may interest some of you. In the synopsis is a link to full film too.

[Kr0lik666]

Okropieństwo!!!!!!

[spursloyal71]

They should bring it back (HANGING) i'd apply for the job.

Theres pleanty of people who i'd like to see swing! but i haven't the room in this post to type there names!!

[smi88y]

he would be outta work now!asbos for the thugs&all.

[scottdavidson1]

An excellent portrayal by Timothy Spall of Albert Pierrepoint and by Michael Norton as Josef Kramer (Commandant of Belsen)

[JamesMorganLondon]

In some ways this was a good film. Unfortunately there are so many inaccuracies that the truth about this very interesting man is masked. His autobiography is very interesting and paints an entirely different picture of Pierrepoint.

[eggmangoogoogoojoob]

Couldn't agree more, James. It seems to me that the makers were so anxious to push their own agenda that there was very little attention to detail - which inevitably undermines the credibility of the film as a whole. The acting, though, is faultless; just a shame about the script.

[boxerlph]

I couldn't agree more with you James. As I worte earlier, it is tragic that we are at the mercy of producers and directors and actors who insist on conveying their own personal agenda as opposed to adhering to the truth.If anyone cared to read they would have seen that many of the scenes in this film were done with liberal political license.

[JamesMorganLondon]

Yes, they are showing this film on television over the weekend and, no doubt, many younger people will see it and believe what they see. The film is also known as 'The Last Hangman.' Pierrepoint resigned in 1956 (not because he was in any way traumatised by his job) and the final hangings in this country took place in 1964, so I am wondering how he could be dubbed the last hangman...

[JamesMorganLondon]

Another ridiculous scene in the film was when Pierrepoint went wild over the fact that there were insufficient coffins to bury the Germans he'd executed. In his autobiography, he simply says that they had to wrap the last body in hessian for burial. He was always a cool and calm person and I hate the way he's portrayed in the film.

[DLPBurke]

I watched this the other day, and I just knew it would be a left wing piece of propaganda. Some people really are thick not to see what this film is about but it SCREAMS propaganda

[VintageTelevision]

It is a movie, not a news documentary.

[DLPBurke]

as a movie basing it on factual things it has a duty to stay true to it and not distort history and someones life which this does.

Of course you like this film, you are a leftist prick who uses it for propaganda. Stick your head up your arse, you silly cunt, and keep it there

[nimos1]

For "cool and calm", I would substitute cold and unfeeling. To be fair, you would have to have a somewhat inert disposition to be able to undertake a job like this, which was exactly how he regarded his position. There is no indication that he ever regretted his actions or he ever had a crisis of conscience as depicted in the film. Pierrepoint resigned on financial not moral grounds. There was nothing noble about Pierrepoint and Spall's overwrought portrayal was laughable who was miscast.

[VintageTelevision]

What is meant by "liberal"? Do you mean progressive?

[boxerlph]

Liberal as in abusive. Contradicting facts to fit one's political agenda. Without the truth we have nothing. To contort the truth into a lie and then to sell it as the truth puts one into the same league as the Nazis.