i dont really want to sound like being a non believer in god is wrong and i am not a judgemental person and i am kind of against non believers in god but do what ever you want but i am not subscribing
i would like to have a question , i am sort of atheist to but sometimes i just dont find something to hold on my self in this life so i wanted to ask you how do you do when evreting goes to the shit? i just want to hear a an idea?
Some more Angelic falsehoods about the out-of-touch Church. Today's subject: women's fertility.
The British Medical Journal this month reports that oral Clomifene citrate, "rational" medicine's long-established method of choice for increasing couple fertility only increases conception by 10-12% and with a 100%rate of debilitating side effects.
That's far less effective than the out-of-touch Church's NaProTECHNOLOGY which has a success rate of 76% in assisting couples to achieve pregnancy.
NPT was developed from 30 years of scientific research in the study of the normal and abnormal states of the menstrual and fertility cycles by Dr. Thomas W. Hilgers, director of the Pope Paul VI Institute for the Study of Human Reproduction and the National Center for Women's Health in Omaha, Nebraska.
NPT has not been accepted by the majority of the medical profession because NPT competes against a well financed options like drugs and IVF that is already deeply entrenched in the marketplace
So, I ask you... Who upholds and celebrates the natural procreative power of women? Who works with awesome power of the natural cycles of a woman? Who does it for the love of children and families? Answer...My lovely Catholic Church.
Conversely, Who promises women a child for a $30,000 fee (IVF) or a 4,000 fee (drugs)? Who demands selective embryo abortions in the latter method? And who see a woman as a market to be exploited? Angel's beloved atheists, toiling away in the Big Pharms's labs.
Jolenecassa: Maybe I should have been clearer in my video: I have no interest & will not engage myself w/ you in a pro & anti-catholic argument. You can kiss & love your beloved ridiculous catholic cooperation as much & long as you like.
So in the meantime your pathetic comments are drifting more & more away from your oh-so-polite-well-educated behavior into "let's throw dirt" in your attempt to get AngelXIII to "come out & play". Not working, my friend. Give it up.
No argument here, Angel-It's just a little FYI... Since only the observable is real for you, those were a couple of Catholic initiatives that stand the scrutiny of statistical analysis.
Purpose? Knowledge dispels ignorance and heals prejudice. That's always a good thing, isn't it?
"60 percent of teenagers who pledge virginity until marriage do engage in pre-marital sex and are then one-third less likely to use contraceptives than their peers who have received more conventional sex education"
Roman Catholics and Evangelical Christians have done alot of damage here in America.
Teens who have taken "viginity pledges" are MORE likely to engage in "high risk" sexual practices of oral and anal sex then teens who have not taken the pledge.
In America the teens who have taken "virginity pledges" are much LESS likely to use condoms or birth control.
STD rates among "pledges" and "non-pledges" is not statistically significant {6.4% vs 6.9%).
-greedy, ancient, old-fashioned, disconnected, rich, run by men
Nice descriptors, Angel. Do they apply to the Catholic Church in "uneducated" Uganda? That country reversed its skyrocketing HIV-AIDS rate (30% down to 5%) through abstinence programs that shunned the false condom savior (which, BTW, has proven USELESS in combatting AIDS). Tens of thousands of African lives saved due to Angel's "greedy, disconnected" Catholic Church and the work of the Franciscan nun Sr. Miriam Duggan.
Angel, you're free to believe what you want, I certainly don't feel personally attacked, but have you ever considered, that in your hardness of heart and comforting historical blindness, perhaps it's you who are disconnected?
In 2007, UNAIDS conducted a technical review of how well condoms had worked for AIDS prevention in the developing world. Dr. Norman Hearst and associates collected data and looked for evidence of public health impact for condoms in generalized epidemics. Conclusion? "No generalized HIV epidemic has ever been rolled back by a prevention strategy primarily based on condoms." The few successes in turning around HIV epidemics, such as Uganda, were due to the Catholic Church's abstinence programs.
Would it surprise you to know that South Africa has pumped a total of 80 billion condoms into its society in the past twenty years? The result? Twenty years ago they had only a 0.3% AIDS prevalence rate in the general population. But they did not listen to wisdom of the Catholic Church whose voice was shouted down by Western AIDS activists who were hostile to any mention of Christianity or abstinence. Eighty billion condoms later, South Africa has a 30% AIDS prevalence rate. Who's out of touch?
And yet, everything you say is having the exact oposite effect in America where we have much more up-to-date and unfiltered information. Strange, that. Is Africa bizarro world or something?
American men and women who practice chastity inside and outside of marriage do not contract AIDS or other STDs. Chastity is a Catholic teaching which dignifies love, strengthens family life, saves lives and propagates civilization. The virginity pledge trend is an Evangelical thing. Chastity is different.
I don't always defend the efforts of Evangelicals, Protestants or the 30,000+ other "faith communities" which may have portions of the truth but no apostolic authority or tradition.
No, Absitinence Only programs are demonizing concoms to the point that teenagers would rather have unprotected sex than risk wearing a condom. That's why there's so much teen pregnancy in America. Abstinence Only programs are about as effective at deterring aids as Prohibition was at stopping Gangsters from rinning speakeasies.
Prohibition banned the sale of alcohol. There's never been a bans on condoms. Temperance societies would be a more apt analogy. Again, Abstinence only programs are not as comprehensive as Catholic teaching on chastity based on JPII's Theology of the Body. TheChurch lays out God''s plan for human love and sexuality and it gives young people something bigger and more beautiful than the pornified, crotch-centric Britney/Paris culture. The Church is in touch with authentic life.
I am not sure where to respond to this because you have several posts here on this matter. Common sense prevails. If you are not having sex your chances for contracting any disease decreases. That is not chance or religion. It is fact. If you would like Christianity to take credit for that it is a shallow victory.
The authorities in Uganda ran what they called ABC programs(abstain, be faithful, use condoms). They did not "shun" condoms, in fact condoms were a key ingredient. Also, you are comparing apples to oranges. The 30% figure is for urban areas. Nationally it was "only" 15% at its peak. 5% is also a national figure from 2000.
BUT after 2003, US-backed abstinence-only programmes have replaced ABC, and guess what... there are signs that AIDS is on the rise again.
A lot of things are in flux for me right now. I find out this week if I get a new job and if I get it, I'll hopefully start making vids again in a few weeks
ad Q2: I don't know whether you have seen the video by philhellenes. He very eloquently and convincingly explained his opinion (which I tend to share) that the pope already is an atheist :-)
i dont really want to sound like being a non believer in god is wrong and i am not a judgemental person and i am kind of against non believers in god but do what ever you want but i am not subscribing
honey67589 2 years ago
I like your necklace. Is that a key?
joshstevens76 3 years ago
i would like to have a question , i am sort of atheist to but sometimes i just dont find something to hold on my self in this life so i wanted to ask you how do you do when evreting goes to the shit? i just want to hear a an idea?
orfe1110 3 years ago
Some more Angelic falsehoods about the out-of-touch Church. Today's subject: women's fertility.
The British Medical Journal this month reports that oral Clomifene citrate, "rational" medicine's long-established method of choice for increasing couple fertility only increases conception by 10-12% and with a 100%rate of debilitating side effects.
That's far less effective than the out-of-touch Church's NaProTECHNOLOGY which has a success rate of 76% in assisting couples to achieve pregnancy.
jolenecassa 3 years ago
NPT was developed from 30 years of scientific research in the study of the normal and abnormal states of the menstrual and fertility cycles by Dr. Thomas W. Hilgers, director of the Pope Paul VI Institute for the Study of Human Reproduction and the National Center for Women's Health in Omaha, Nebraska.
NPT has not been accepted by the majority of the medical profession because NPT competes against a well financed options like drugs and IVF that is already deeply entrenched in the marketplace
jolenecassa 3 years ago
So, I ask you... Who upholds and celebrates the natural procreative power of women? Who works with awesome power of the natural cycles of a woman? Who does it for the love of children and families? Answer...My lovely Catholic Church.
Conversely, Who promises women a child for a $30,000 fee (IVF) or a 4,000 fee (drugs)? Who demands selective embryo abortions in the latter method? And who see a woman as a market to be exploited? Angel's beloved atheists, toiling away in the Big Pharms's labs.
jolenecassa 3 years ago
Jolenecassa: Maybe I should have been clearer in my video: I have no interest & will not engage myself w/ you in a pro & anti-catholic argument. You can kiss & love your beloved ridiculous catholic cooperation as much & long as you like.
So in the meantime your pathetic comments are drifting more & more away from your oh-so-polite-well-educated behavior into "let's throw dirt" in your attempt to get AngelXIII to "come out & play". Not working, my friend. Give it up.
~Angel XIII~
anangel13 3 years ago
No argument here, Angel-It's just a little FYI... Since only the observable is real for you, those were a couple of Catholic initiatives that stand the scrutiny of statistical analysis.
Purpose? Knowledge dispels ignorance and heals prejudice. That's always a good thing, isn't it?
jolenecassa 3 years ago
This was very interesting.
Ghostwriter6967 3 years ago
"60 percent of teenagers who pledge virginity until marriage do engage in pre-marital sex and are then one-third less likely to use contraceptives than their peers who have received more conventional sex education"
smaugfrost 3 years ago
Roman Catholics and Evangelical Christians have done alot of damage here in America.
Teens who have taken "viginity pledges" are MORE likely to engage in "high risk" sexual practices of oral and anal sex then teens who have not taken the pledge.
In America the teens who have taken "virginity pledges" are much LESS likely to use condoms or birth control.
STD rates among "pledges" and "non-pledges" is not statistically significant {6.4% vs 6.9%).
smaugfrost 3 years ago
OMG!! THE TITS ARE TALKING!!!! jk
jruzz 3 years ago
OMG!! YOU ARE SO ORIGINAL!
Great new comment. Never got that before. Five stars for originality.
~Angel XIII~
anangel13 3 years ago
-greedy, ancient, old-fashioned, disconnected, rich, run by men
Nice descriptors, Angel. Do they apply to the Catholic Church in "uneducated" Uganda? That country reversed its skyrocketing HIV-AIDS rate (30% down to 5%) through abstinence programs that shunned the false condom savior (which, BTW, has proven USELESS in combatting AIDS). Tens of thousands of African lives saved due to Angel's "greedy, disconnected" Catholic Church and the work of the Franciscan nun Sr. Miriam Duggan.
jolenecassa 3 years ago
Angel, you're free to believe what you want, I certainly don't feel personally attacked, but have you ever considered, that in your hardness of heart and comforting historical blindness, perhaps it's you who are disconnected?
jolenecassa 3 years ago
Absolutely not.
Thanks.
~Angel XIII~
anangel13 3 years ago
"but have you ever considered, that in your hardness of heart and comforting historical blindness, perhaps it's you who are disconnected?"
"through abstinence programs that shunned the false condom savior (which, BTW, has proven USELESS in combatting AIDS)."
I'm gonna say no.
dechha1981 3 years ago
In 2007, UNAIDS conducted a technical review of how well condoms had worked for AIDS prevention in the developing world. Dr. Norman Hearst and associates collected data and looked for evidence of public health impact for condoms in generalized epidemics. Conclusion? "No generalized HIV epidemic has ever been rolled back by a prevention strategy primarily based on condoms." The few successes in turning around HIV epidemics, such as Uganda, were due to the Catholic Church's abstinence programs.
jolenecassa 3 years ago
Would it surprise you to know that South Africa has pumped a total of 80 billion condoms into its society in the past twenty years? The result? Twenty years ago they had only a 0.3% AIDS prevalence rate in the general population. But they did not listen to wisdom of the Catholic Church whose voice was shouted down by Western AIDS activists who were hostile to any mention of Christianity or abstinence. Eighty billion condoms later, South Africa has a 30% AIDS prevalence rate. Who's out of touch?
jolenecassa 3 years ago
And yet, everything you say is having the exact oposite effect in America where we have much more up-to-date and unfiltered information. Strange, that. Is Africa bizarro world or something?
dechha1981 3 years ago
American men and women who practice chastity inside and outside of marriage do not contract AIDS or other STDs. Chastity is a Catholic teaching which dignifies love, strengthens family life, saves lives and propagates civilization. The virginity pledge trend is an Evangelical thing. Chastity is different.
I don't always defend the efforts of Evangelicals, Protestants or the 30,000+ other "faith communities" which may have portions of the truth but no apostolic authority or tradition.
jolenecassa 3 years ago
No, Absitinence Only programs are demonizing concoms to the point that teenagers would rather have unprotected sex than risk wearing a condom. That's why there's so much teen pregnancy in America. Abstinence Only programs are about as effective at deterring aids as Prohibition was at stopping Gangsters from rinning speakeasies.
dechha1981 3 years ago
Prohibition banned the sale of alcohol. There's never been a bans on condoms. Temperance societies would be a more apt analogy. Again, Abstinence only programs are not as comprehensive as Catholic teaching on chastity based on JPII's Theology of the Body. TheChurch lays out God''s plan for human love and sexuality and it gives young people something bigger and more beautiful than the pornified, crotch-centric Britney/Paris culture. The Church is in touch with authentic life.
jolenecassa 3 years ago
I am not sure where to respond to this because you have several posts here on this matter. Common sense prevails. If you are not having sex your chances for contracting any disease decreases. That is not chance or religion. It is fact. If you would like Christianity to take credit for that it is a shallow victory.
Ghostwriter6967 3 years ago
Thank goodness it's not "Angel's" Catholic Church, sadly for you.. it's yours...
~Angel XIII~
anangel13 3 years ago
The authorities in Uganda ran what they called ABC programs(abstain, be faithful, use condoms). They did not "shun" condoms, in fact condoms were a key ingredient. Also, you are comparing apples to oranges. The 30% figure is for urban areas. Nationally it was "only" 15% at its peak. 5% is also a national figure from 2000.
BUT after 2003, US-backed abstinence-only programmes have replaced ABC, and guess what... there are signs that AIDS is on the rise again.
Have fun murdering people.
FaithIsImaginary 3 years ago
Great video Angel! Some of my answers would mirror yours. Your perspective on the Catholic Church is spot on imo.
mconn2112 3 years ago
Hey anangel13! My video reponse is now on the way. Thanks for letting me in on the fun.
mwest1234 3 years ago
aw thanks for tagging me!
A lot of things are in flux for me right now. I find out this week if I get a new job and if I get it, I'll hopefully start making vids again in a few weeks
imrational 3 years ago
great answers. we agree on a lot of things.
i will gladly reply to this tag :)
onlywhenprovoked 3 years ago
I totally agree with your views of the catholic church Angel...
Katalyzt
Katalyzt 3 years ago
;o)
~Angel XIII~
anangel13 3 years ago
Ah, back to basics.
OK, I'll probably make a response in a couple of days.
dechha1981 3 years ago
Basics indeed. Just for this one.. who knows what I do next. :o)
~Angel XIII~
anangel13 3 years ago
ad Q2: I don't know whether you have seen the video by philhellenes. He very eloquently and convincingly explained his opinion (which I tend to share) that the pope already is an atheist :-)
FHB71 3 years ago
I'll have to check it out, haven't watched that one (yet). Thanks.
~Angel XIII~
anangel13 3 years ago
This is an old look for you. :-D
Nice answers!
CousinoMacul 3 years ago
Hehe.. yea.. I guess you could say so.
Thanks.
~Angel XIII~
anangel13 3 years ago