Can you imagine that thing swinging around and locking right on.... YOU. Not necessarily firing, just locking on you. Take two steps right, and the gun follows. I'm pretty sure I'd shlt my pants.
Also the Phalanx CIWS sucks at its job and has always sucked at its job. It has an estimated 2% success rate against supersonic anti-ship missiles (which the Chinese and Russians have made in great numbers and exported to every enemy the US has) and has been fired in anger precisely once, during which point it mistook a chaff cloud for the inbound missile and shot the ship next to it full of holes. A British ship ended up shooting down the missile with another missile.
What is this crap about getting radiation burns or radioactive poisoning from DU? I thought the Navy was supposed to be smarter than the Army. I'm a stupid grunt and even I'm capable of doing basic research before I start talking.
DU dust is dangerous because it's a toxic heavy metal, not because of radiation. The chemical damage from inhaling it is literally 1 million times more serious than whatever tiny amount of alpha radiation it's emitting. dx.doi.org/10.1016%2FS0162-0134%2802%2900391-4
Depleted uranium ammunition will not give radiation sickness unless you have been exposed long enough ( i think you will need to sleep on a crate of this stuff for a year to reach the maximum safe exposure ..which is also a vague standard imho ). What is probably most lethal on this weapons system standing to close is the microwaves from the short range active radar that these sort of systems use to feed the targeting computer.
Depleted uranium is used for its high mass. It is mostly U238, (half life: 4.4 Billion yrs) and very stable. It will not 'fuck you up' unless its fired at you. It's also used in tank armor. Depleted uranium has low level radioactivity, like granite, bananas and smoke detectors. "Not as strong" is not the correct way to describe the different levels of radioactivity. High Level Waste = Fukishima, Low Level Radioactiviy = Bananas.
@DigitalDesignDJ: Low intensity is the way to say it. The radiation intensity (particles emitted per time period) is inversely proportional to half-life, and U238 has a half life a quarter of the age of the universe. The intensity is low, and, as you said, the particles are alphas, too heavy and charged to go far.
@dsoutherngent1 Ну, точно глупые янки для справки комплекс АК-630-М2 это комплекс разработан примерно 1990 году на базе комплекса АК-630, но в 2000 году его начали модернизировать так, и появился АК-630-М2 который отвечает всем требованиям 21 века.
@dsoutherngent1 К слову даже старый комплекс АК-630 превосходил по совокупности боевых характеристик комплекс Phalanx а АК-630-М2 это по сути 2 АК-630 установленные в одной оболочке и дополненный системой охлаждения новой системой наведения и много еще чем все говорить нельзя секретно.
@serega26k You're missing the point. You're comrades in the Russian army is still trying to compete with what we made decades ago. Sure what you have may fit in the 21st century, but thats only because the rest of the world is that far behind us in technology. Face it, the KGB did you a HUGE disservice by stealing our old designs. How about being original, unique, get a clue from Kalashnikov. By copying, you doom yourself to being way behind the times
@dsoutherngent1 Мы сейчас нечего из военной техники не копируем. Мы копировали в 50-60 годах, когда наша страна была разрушена и активно восстанавливалась после войны. В то время на научно-исследовательские работы средств особо не было и приходилось экономить в прочем, как и не было заводов кадров и многого другого.
@dsoutherngent1 . Скорее наоборот сейчас развитые страны типа США копируют нашу технику, например, на самолете F-35 установлен адаптированный двигатель который был разработан для советского самолета ЯК-141 который был разработан 1987 году.
@dsoutherngent1 И специально для вас сообщаю новою для вас информацию мы уже давно не конкурируем с тем, что было создано где-то в мире 30-40 лет назад пример тому наш комплекс ПВО Панцирь. А комплекс АК-630-М2 был модернизирован с целью временной замены комплекса АК-630.
@dsoutherngent1 И то, что вы думаете про отсталость наших технологий и то, что русское оружие, созданное в 70-х 80-х 90-х годах и прошедшие модернизацию не в состоянии эффективно воевать это только ваше мнение и с мнением других нечего общего не имеет.
@dsoutherngent1 Добавлю один любопытный факт если память мне не изменяет, то 1967 году два египетских ракетных катера проекта комар проданные СССР Египту обстреляли израильский крейсер противокорабельными ракетами П-15, после чего крейсер затонул. А до этих событий все западные военные говорили, что советские ракетные катера не могут воевать с крейсерами и эсминцами и что это глупая русская затея.
@serega26k Hate to tell you, but my opinion on the Russian technology going back to the late 60's is based on friends of mine who faught against the peices of junk. Did lucky shots get through? Sure, but even a blind squirrel can find an acorn once in a while. Ask the men on the USS Newport News about Operation Snowy Beach, and the IDIOT Soviet that gave away his sub's position by lighting his pipe when surfaced. The WHOLE Russian military is a joke technology and all
Скоро новый год я уезжаю на новогодние каникулы. Так-то сожалею, но мне не до вас.
Кстати кажется, США вместе с Британией и НАТО решили после нового года начать войну против Ирана, так что надо смотреть может так случится, что какой нибуть натовский ультрасовременный эсминец или фрегат может подорваться на мине выпуска 60-х 70-х годов или суперсовременный танк будит, подбит из РПГ-7 или при помощи противотанковой ракеты типа фагот.
@serega26k is that russian for "holey fuck thats a fucking awesome gun wish we here in the homeland had a fucking awesome gun like you yankees do, all we have is an outdated AK47"
Ты про мою армию впрочем, как и про мою строну, знаешь столько же, сколько про Афганистан и Ирак. И по этому думаешь, что все самое лучшие в США Англии или еще где тебе скажут.
А вообще в Российской армии есть уйма нового оружия, о котором ты нечего не знаешь, так как тебе об этом не сказали, в том числе стрелкового.
Так что не хрена не андестенд пиши по русский будет нормальный ответ.
In the Dutch Navy we use the Goalgetter system for defense against incoming missiles. It was developed by Thales Netherlands (I think). Does anybody know what system works better - Goalgetter or Phalanx? The Goalgetter fires larger ammo, that I can see. It's also a larger system overall.
The search and track gimble radar at the top doesn't put off much radiation, but the big array below it, does. Imagine an open micrwave oven x1000. That thing puts out some serious RF at *dangerous* frequencies! When General Dynamics had the contract in Southern California, the radar test area was 100 yards away from anything, and the Navy owned 100 yards more, in order to keep everything and everyone away from it, while testing.
@rootiest That is the radome that house the search and track antennas for the radar system. They use radar to search then track targets then the radar with guide the rounds on target.
@wotansteel 1987, USS Stark. It was hit by two Exocet missiles...at the time, one of the worse types of missiles to defend against. No weapon system is perfect, people just hope that they are. Because of the way the Exocet flies, it is very hard to pick up on most radars. None of the Stark's radars picked up either missile, a lookout watch saw them right before impact.
There is no effects. The actual sound vibrates. I'm serious, it's like you're being squeezed by the vibration (and I was far away because they say being too close can get you radiation burn). I can feel the noise through my body, like squeezing my heart. I believe it's that sound wave causing that film shaking effect.
The rounds in that CIWS gun are made of DU (Depleted Uranium) which has a certain level of radiation in it. DU emits alpha, beta and gamma radiation. I filmed this, I was there on this ship. Now, if you were very close to that gun with it fired, who knows what sort of radiation you will absorb into your body, especially when the DU bullets coming out hot from that gun in hundreds of rounds.
@seize7days the certain level is actually not that much, only low level gamma radiation. the alpha particles only travel a few centimeters from the source and can be stopped by a sheet of paper, so it's very weak. There has never been a case of radiation burn that didn't result from direct contact, otherwise the US government would be up to their ass in lawsuits
"Radiation burn" is a bit far fetched, yes. I was lacking better words to describe to the guy above so I came up with those words. Actually, the Gunner's Mates just told me not to be too close to the gun when it fires because of possible radiation hazard.
@seize7days of course, you see "smoke" or "dust" being emitted from the barrel as it is firing? Even if it doesn't burn, you want to breathe that? Maybe that's what he means. Better you shouldn't inhale microscopic depleted uranium dust
@ConspiracyTheory2 You will see smoke, (they barrels have a coating of oil on them to prevent corrosion at sea) but some of what you see are sabot petals. Look up sabot ammo and you'll get a better idea of what they are. This system can track a 1/4 cable at one mile!
@seize7days I believe the gunners were messing with you. This particular system is maintained entirely by Fire Controlmen. Gunners only help with moving the ammo. Yeah, I AM a former CIWS tech!
@MrTrollus What about the particles and lead\du vapor coming from the muzzle and floating around or close to personel? bullets don't travel down a barrel unscathed.
@seize7days@porrsmurfen I believe it is most likely due to the fact that the fire control system for CIWS is radar. It automatically discovers and identifies targets and all the operator has to do is hit a button to tell it which to shoot at. It will identify anything flying in a designated area, but I'm sure they have filters to cut out all the indicator clutter, like birds and atmospherics.
@seize7days I've heard rumors of handling DU ammunition causing cancer and birth defects and such. Is this true? And what kind of precautions do the handlers take when in contact with this ammo -- suits and gloves?
@seize7days Depleted Uranium is harmless. You would literally kill yourself by clogging your lungs if you tried to snort enough powdered DU to get a toxic dose. Anyone that says otherwise is a hippy liberal douche that is taking shots in the dark at our military to stir shit up.
Yes I know that radioactive materials are found throughout nature. I think we're talking about natural and man-made radiation sources. I read that the natural radiation dosage each person receive yearly from the environment is about 40 millirems. But man-made and occupational radiation dosage that a person receive can vary and are likely more dangerous; I'm just reasoning here, I'm not a doctor or expert in this field.
@seize7days the amount of radiation you would pick up from a DU round standing one meter away from it is 7 nSv/h which is less then 1/10th what you pick up from normal back ground radiation which clocks in at 100 nSv/h the amount of radiation you would pick up is just slightly more then you get from eating a banana (5.3 nSv/h)
@porrsmurfen Since the system has its own search and its own tracking radars, it would be entirely possible and there are regulations pertaining to operations, especially within close proximity to other ships or structures. Yeah, I AM a former CIWS tech!
@porrsmurfen The reason it can give radiation burns is because that giant dome on top of the weapon consists of a radar system that can burn your skin if you stand too close to it.
@porrsmurfen People, The gun is dealing with incredible amounts energy, so it gets hot. So hot that the heat can burn you without actually touching it. It 'radiates' heat that burns you, its not radioactive...
Tanks are covered in depleted uranium armor and filled with depleted uranium shells, but they are not radioactive in a dangerous way. Hence "Depleted"
@porrsmurfen did you know it has its own radar array built in? if you get inside six feet its track radar presents RADHAZ and mount movement hazard. however, it would be very difficult to get in front of the beam.
@Filo127 It's true, and Depleted Uranium rounds are being scrutinized (not closely enough IMHO) by veteran's and military organizations in the western world as they've been suspected to have caused increased rates of certain types of cancers, birth defects et al in veterans and the people occupying countries where America (mainly) has waged wars with tanks, jets and naval vessels using DU rounds. It may be depleted, and just the core of a bullet/shell, but it's still uranium.
The system uses a cosntantly upgraded radar system that tracks its own bullets and can use that to adjust if needed. i've watched this system destroy a towed missle drone, and track and shoot the cable that was towing the drone. The system has no problems shooting down misles especially slow anti ship missles. The new system even has a thermal "eye" to attack small craft.
@ninjabob52 This gun doesnt just randomlly fire at the target,It shoot's in front of the nose to it has a better shot of killing the missile without using alot of ammo.
@ninjabob52 average is probably 3000-4000 rounds a minute.The Phalanx track's the missile's nose so it save's some ammo.Add alot of these you have a formitable wall of fire.
Unproven weapon. In a real war scenario against a formidable enemy I don't think this weapon would be very effective as there are ways to confuse the radar/electronics.
@bobmclightning Canada does have this Phalanx system on many of its ships and there have been some 'bugs' in the system being reported. In one reported test run the missile from the system reportedly turned around from intended target and headed back towards the ship.
@SouthTexasRich It was not my point to say these types of weapons are not necessary. My point is do these weapons work efficiently. Could also throw in cost(usually at a gross mark-up because arms manufacturers know that politicians don't need to worry about 1000% mark-up because the taxpayer pays the bill).
@SouthTexasRich Dont' worry about it. You came across as being pretty civil.
I get a little excited lately because our Canadian fed. gov't is going on a multi-billion dollar military spending spree on ships, jets, and APV yet gives pennies to poor students, seniors, and the unemployed.
CIWS was designed and built for Navy ships as anti-missile and anti-air defense. When the Army started to use (known as C-RAM) it for defense of the Green Zone in Baghdad, the Army didn't have anyone who knew how to operate, maintain and repair it. So it called up the Navy's Firecontolmen to do the job. Many sailor FC's were sent from Ship to shore to help protect thier Army brothers.
Used against incoming missiles, it fires rounds with depleted uranium in the tips. the dome houses a radar that detects high speed contacts. For example it won't track a helicopter unless it locks onto the tail rotor, it won't track a prop aircraft unless it can lock onto the propeller. It is called the Phalanx after the shield formation that Greek soldiers used. It will put a wall of lead in front of an incoming missile and destroy it.
@CRAZYhill112or999 If I'm not mistaken, alot of the machinery and the ammo is stored in there. If you notice, it just hangs in its cradle with nothing really underneath.
@fairclought7 Close, but not quite accurate or on target. The expended ammo sheels are recycled back through a chute into the ammunition drum directly below the gun-cradle. The ammo is NOT stored withiin the hull of the ship. The ammunition drum is also exposed to weather. I should know: I always had to clean salt spray off of mine when I worked on it aboard the USS Independence, CV-62 ( 1995-1998).
@lgd1974 yes i knew i wasn't quite right, people were saying it was stored in the radar dome but i knew it was stored underneath the weapon and just assumed by the way they are fitted to some ships that they could be below the deck, im not too sure how the Goalkeeper CIWS is set up but the RN use both weapon systems and maybe i was getting my wires crossed but thanks for the info, im always happy to learn and be corrected if im wrong..
@fairclought7 actually you are incorrect about the ammo, it is in a drum under the gun. It holds 1,500 or so rounds and has to be reloaded. you can see diagrams online from many sources including the manufacturer. It is a self contained system which enables it to traverse such a wide degree of angles. if the ammo feed was in the ship, the system would not be as agile.
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The CIWS is intended to shoot down things such aircraft, cruise missiles, or anti ship missiles that gets past the Destroyer screens and the ships own defensive weapons. The CIWS is considered the last line of defense. If something gets past the CIWS brace for impact. The CIWS Block 1B can engage surface targets as well.
A land base version used in Iraq is called C-RAM.
There is also a missile based version called SeaRam.
@nhvalentine actually the short bursts that you see here are for the PAC fires. it stand for pre-aim-calibration. it aligns the track antenna in the dome with where the rounds go. In a real situation the gun will shoot until the target is out of its engagement envelope. curtesy of a US Navy CIWS technician.
i'll take one for each of my vehicles, please....
pillowbugg 2 days ago
she has big head!!
asd2772 5 days ago
to bad we can use the Iranian Navy for target practice.
usaeagle1776 1 week ago
Its great to see R2D2 got some mods done.
Jmo6475 1 week ago
Mutant r2d2 oO scary shit
Robusstik 1 week ago
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wullat2 2 weeks ago
I'd get one but can't afford the ammo!
Touchofgrey53 2 weeks ago
Can you imagine that thing swinging around and locking right on.... YOU. Not necessarily firing, just locking on you. Take two steps right, and the gun follows. I'm pretty sure I'd shlt my pants.
verminosity 2 weeks ago
@verminosity I would have diarrhea more powerful than and AA gun if THAT AA gun pointed at me, ready to fire. So.........stay away from me I guess.
dankhimself 3 days ago
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@verminosity I would have diarrhea more powerful than and AA gun if THAT AA gun pointed at me, ready to fire. So.........stay away from me I guess.
dankhimself 3 days ago
Also the Phalanx CIWS sucks at its job and has always sucked at its job. It has an estimated 2% success rate against supersonic anti-ship missiles (which the Chinese and Russians have made in great numbers and exported to every enemy the US has) and has been fired in anger precisely once, during which point it mistook a chaff cloud for the inbound missile and shot the ship next to it full of holes. A British ship ended up shooting down the missile with another missile.
EntropicMisanthropic 2 weeks ago
What is this crap about getting radiation burns or radioactive poisoning from DU? I thought the Navy was supposed to be smarter than the Army. I'm a stupid grunt and even I'm capable of doing basic research before I start talking.
DU dust is dangerous because it's a toxic heavy metal, not because of radiation. The chemical damage from inhaling it is literally 1 million times more serious than whatever tiny amount of alpha radiation it's emitting. dx.doi.org/10.1016%2FS0162-0134%2802%2900391-4
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@EntropicMisanthropic Heavy metal poisoning
MrJohnboy006 4 days ago
That is the only thing I ever heard echo when out to sea with no land in sight. I was loader when I was on the USS Ponce.
dcb4401 2 weeks ago
I love how the description says "firing at something" like it could be a duck or a leaf they just blew the shit out of and they dont even know.
STDrepository 3 weeks ago
This would be great for those pesky pirates off the somali coast.
eltoroda 3 weeks ago
The new anti-pirate gun, nice........
DHarri9977 3 weeks ago
Phalanx CIWS does not use uranium the Navy was concerned about Du particles raining down over the fleet so they use Tungtsen.
FunnyVideoCollector 4 weeks ago
Depleted uranium ammunition will not give radiation sickness unless you have been exposed long enough ( i think you will need to sleep on a crate of this stuff for a year to reach the maximum safe exposure ..which is also a vague standard imho ). What is probably most lethal on this weapons system standing to close is the microwaves from the short range active radar that these sort of systems use to feed the targeting computer.
p3falien 1 month ago
I wonder what would happen if i were to stand in front of that gun right before it went off
Kuartus 1 month ago
@Kuartus hope fully you would get out of the way. lol
koffeekage 1 month ago
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@TheIhateurface
U235 is High Level Radioactive waste.
Depleted uranium is used for its high mass. It is mostly U238, (half life: 4.4 Billion yrs) and very stable. It will not 'fuck you up' unless its fired at you. It's also used in tank armor. Depleted uranium has low level radioactivity, like granite, bananas and smoke detectors. "Not as strong" is not the correct way to describe the different levels of radioactivity. High Level Waste = Fukishima, Low Level Radioactiviy = Bananas.
DigitalDesignDJ 1 month ago
@DigitalDesignDJ: Low intensity is the way to say it. The radiation intensity (particles emitted per time period) is inversely proportional to half-life, and U238 has a half life a quarter of the age of the universe. The intensity is low, and, as you said, the particles are alphas, too heavy and charged to go far.
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DigitalDesignDJ 1 month ago
dear santa...
ndmxp 1 month ago
Your American Tax dollars down the fuckin drain. glad im not footin the bill.
uncleDtotheutotheffy 1 month ago
@uncleDtotheutotheffy
So, you aren't an american Taxpayer?
Because if you were, then you would be "Footing the bill"
Besides, it will bring just about anthing in the air, to the ground and/or sea.
awesomeologyism 1 month ago
Silly Yankees Russian АК-630 is better! Without speaking about new АК-630-М2
serega26k 1 month ago
@serega26k Silly Russians...still trying to keep up with our guns from the 1980's
dsoutherngent1 1 month ago
@dsoutherngent1 Ну, точно глупые янки для справки комплекс АК-630-М2 это комплекс разработан примерно 1990 году на базе комплекса АК-630, но в 2000 году его начали модернизировать так, и появился АК-630-М2 который отвечает всем требованиям 21 века.
serega26k 1 month ago
@dsoutherngent1 К слову даже старый комплекс АК-630 превосходил по совокупности боевых характеристик комплекс Phalanx а АК-630-М2 это по сути 2 АК-630 установленные в одной оболочке и дополненный системой охлаждения новой системой наведения и много еще чем все говорить нельзя секретно.
serega26k 1 month ago
@serega26k You're missing the point. You're comrades in the Russian army is still trying to compete with what we made decades ago. Sure what you have may fit in the 21st century, but thats only because the rest of the world is that far behind us in technology. Face it, the KGB did you a HUGE disservice by stealing our old designs. How about being original, unique, get a clue from Kalashnikov. By copying, you doom yourself to being way behind the times
dsoutherngent1 1 month ago
@dsoutherngent1 Мы сейчас нечего из военной техники не копируем. Мы копировали в 50-60 годах, когда наша страна была разрушена и активно восстанавливалась после войны. В то время на научно-исследовательские работы средств особо не было и приходилось экономить в прочем, как и не было заводов кадров и многого другого.
serega26k 1 month ago
@dsoutherngent1 . Скорее наоборот сейчас развитые страны типа США копируют нашу технику, например, на самолете F-35 установлен адаптированный двигатель который был разработан для советского самолета ЯК-141 который был разработан 1987 году.
serega26k 1 month ago
@dsoutherngent1 И специально для вас сообщаю новою для вас информацию мы уже давно не конкурируем с тем, что было создано где-то в мире 30-40 лет назад пример тому наш комплекс ПВО Панцирь. А комплекс АК-630-М2 был модернизирован с целью временной замены комплекса АК-630.
serega26k 1 month ago
@dsoutherngent1 И то, что вы думаете про отсталость наших технологий и то, что русское оружие, созданное в 70-х 80-х 90-х годах и прошедшие модернизацию не в состоянии эффективно воевать это только ваше мнение и с мнением других нечего общего не имеет.
serega26k 1 month ago
@dsoutherngent1 Добавлю один любопытный факт если память мне не изменяет, то 1967 году два египетских ракетных катера проекта комар проданные СССР Египту обстреляли израильский крейсер противокорабельными ракетами П-15, после чего крейсер затонул. А до этих событий все западные военные говорили, что советские ракетные катера не могут воевать с крейсерами и эсминцами и что это глупая русская затея.
serega26k 1 month ago
@serega26k Hate to tell you, but my opinion on the Russian technology going back to the late 60's is based on friends of mine who faught against the peices of junk. Did lucky shots get through? Sure, but even a blind squirrel can find an acorn once in a while. Ask the men on the USS Newport News about Operation Snowy Beach, and the IDIOT Soviet that gave away his sub's position by lighting his pipe when surfaced. The WHOLE Russian military is a joke technology and all
dsoutherngent1 1 month ago
@dsoutherngent1 Скучно мне с вами…
Скоро новый год я уезжаю на новогодние каникулы. Так-то сожалею, но мне не до вас.
Кстати кажется, США вместе с Британией и НАТО решили после нового года начать войну против Ирана, так что надо смотреть может так случится, что какой нибуть натовский ультрасовременный эсминец или фрегат может подорваться на мине выпуска 60-х 70-х годов или суперсовременный танк будит, подбит из РПГ-7 или при помощи противотанковой ракеты типа фагот.
serega26k 1 month ago
@serega26k is that russian for "holey fuck thats a fucking awesome gun wish we here in the homeland had a fucking awesome gun like you yankees do, all we have is an outdated AK47"
Ikn0wJack 3 weeks ago
@Ikn0wJack Для даунов пишу специально.
Ты про мою армию впрочем, как и про мою строну, знаешь столько же, сколько про Афганистан и Ирак. И по этому думаешь, что все самое лучшие в США Англии или еще где тебе скажут.
А вообще в Российской армии есть уйма нового оружия, о котором ты нечего не знаешь, так как тебе об этом не сказали, в том числе стрелкового.
Так что не хрена не андестенд пиши по русский будет нормальный ответ.
serega26k 3 weeks ago
@serega26k is that russian for.."your so right Ikn0wJack your so right!."
Ikn0wJack 3 weeks ago
@dsoutherngent1 Так что Happy New Year the Yankee!
serega26k 1 month ago
and thats how you make the holes in swss cheese
aranfrancis 1 month ago
Mojojojo!
Neodymio 2 months ago
In the Dutch Navy we use the Goalgetter system for defense against incoming missiles. It was developed by Thales Netherlands (I think). Does anybody know what system works better - Goalgetter or Phalanx? The Goalgetter fires larger ammo, that I can see. It's also a larger system overall.
AiaAziz 2 months ago
The search and track gimble radar at the top doesn't put off much radiation, but the big array below it, does. Imagine an open micrwave oven x1000. That thing puts out some serious RF at *dangerous* frequencies! When General Dynamics had the contract in Southern California, the radar test area was 100 yards away from anything, and the Navy owned 100 yards more, in order to keep everything and everyone away from it, while testing.
w5omr 2 months ago
wats in that big white thing on top of it?
rootiest 2 months ago
@rootiest That is the radome that house the search and track antennas for the radar system. They use radar to search then track targets then the radar with guide the rounds on target.
scrumguy123 2 months ago
Awesome. I was on the Duluth back in 92'. The Phalanx CIWS was the coolest thing on that rustbucket. Semper Fi!
-Ssgt. H
hiltonlife 2 months ago
r2d2 with a serious hard-on
duffweld 2 months ago
Sound like something with a high maintenance contract attached to it.
bigendbob 2 months ago
I remb when that guns is miss one Irak rocket launched be jets and US frigate is blow up some of 82 or 85'in persic golf.Pathetic defense.
wotansteel 2 months ago
@wotansteel what?
jonboy1973 2 months ago
@wotansteel 1987, USS Stark. It was hit by two Exocet missiles...at the time, one of the worse types of missiles to defend against. No weapon system is perfect, people just hope that they are. Because of the way the Exocet flies, it is very hard to pick up on most radars. None of the Stark's radars picked up either missile, a lookout watch saw them right before impact.
affurman 2 months ago
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were you trying to be original with those shittly film shaking effects?
or is it actually the gun causing it o.O
Filo127 3 months ago
@Filo127 its the gun. its incredibly loud.
Arkanni 2 months ago
@Filo127
There is no effects. The actual sound vibrates. I'm serious, it's like you're being squeezed by the vibration (and I was far away because they say being too close can get you radiation burn). I can feel the noise through my body, like squeezing my heart. I believe it's that sound wave causing that film shaking effect.
seize7days 2 months ago 20
@seize7days Explain to me how a digital gun-system is going to give you radiation burns.
porrsmurfen 2 months ago
@porrsmurfen,
The rounds in that CIWS gun are made of DU (Depleted Uranium) which has a certain level of radiation in it. DU emits alpha, beta and gamma radiation. I filmed this, I was there on this ship. Now, if you were very close to that gun with it fired, who knows what sort of radiation you will absorb into your body, especially when the DU bullets coming out hot from that gun in hundreds of rounds.
seize7days 2 months ago 17
@seize7days Plus the fact that the gigantic fucking muzzle blast can probably fuck your shit up by firing blanks....
VollyTyrannis 2 months ago
@seize7days the certain level is actually not that much, only low level gamma radiation. the alpha particles only travel a few centimeters from the source and can be stopped by a sheet of paper, so it's very weak. There has never been a case of radiation burn that didn't result from direct contact, otherwise the US government would be up to their ass in lawsuits
MrTrollus 2 months ago
@MrTrollus
"Radiation burn" is a bit far fetched, yes. I was lacking better words to describe to the guy above so I came up with those words. Actually, the Gunner's Mates just told me not to be too close to the gun when it fires because of possible radiation hazard.
@Bizzmark11
I think he sums it up better.
seize7days 2 months ago
@seize7days of course, you see "smoke" or "dust" being emitted from the barrel as it is firing? Even if it doesn't burn, you want to breathe that? Maybe that's what he means. Better you shouldn't inhale microscopic depleted uranium dust
ConspiracyTheory2 2 months ago
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@ConspiracyTheory2 You will see smoke, (they barrels have a coating of oil on them to prevent corrosion at sea) but some of what you see are sabot petals. Look up sabot ammo and you'll get a better idea of what they are. This system can track a 1/4 cable at one mile!
Yeah, I AM a former CIWS tech!
TrapperJohn5719 2 months ago
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@seize7days I believe the gunners were messing with you. This particular system is maintained entirely by Fire Controlmen. Gunners only help with moving the ammo. Yeah, I AM a former CIWS tech!
TrapperJohn5719 2 months ago
@seize7days The "radiation hazard" is from the radar that is located in the white barrel-structure above the gun barrels.
gsmollin 1 month ago
@MrTrollus What about the particles and lead\du vapor coming from the muzzle and floating around or close to personel? bullets don't travel down a barrel unscathed.
digitalfuk 1 month ago
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@seize7days Actually, I believe they have changed over to tungsten rounds now. No radiation involved. Yeah, I AM a former CIWS tech!
TrapperJohn5719 2 months ago
@seize7days @porrsmurfen I believe it is most likely due to the fact that the fire control system for CIWS is radar. It automatically discovers and identifies targets and all the operator has to do is hit a button to tell it which to shoot at. It will identify anything flying in a designated area, but I'm sure they have filters to cut out all the indicator clutter, like birds and atmospherics.
ProvenKilla 1 month ago
@seize7days wait so how would you arm the gun? Or do the bullets only emit radiation when fired.
TheNosyGamer 1 month ago
@seize7days I've heard rumors of handling DU ammunition causing cancer and birth defects and such. Is this true? And what kind of precautions do the handlers take when in contact with this ammo -- suits and gloves?
jgizzy 3 weeks ago
@jgizzy If you're part of the military I think you'll have more to worry about than the very faint possibilty of getting cancer from a bullet.
lankinator24 21 hours ago
@seize7days Depleted Uranium is harmless. You would literally kill yourself by clogging your lungs if you tried to snort enough powdered DU to get a toxic dose. Anyone that says otherwise is a hippy liberal douche that is taking shots in the dark at our military to stir shit up.
elseagoat 3 weeks ago
@seize7days did you know that everything has a certain amount of radiation coming out of it? even lead and chocolate
seshmarls 1 week ago 3
@seshmarls
Yes I know that radioactive materials are found throughout nature. I think we're talking about natural and man-made radiation sources. I read that the natural radiation dosage each person receive yearly from the environment is about 40 millirems. But man-made and occupational radiation dosage that a person receive can vary and are likely more dangerous; I'm just reasoning here, I'm not a doctor or expert in this field.
seize7days 1 week ago
@seize7days the amount of radiation you would pick up from a DU round standing one meter away from it is 7 nSv/h which is less then 1/10th what you pick up from normal back ground radiation which clocks in at 100 nSv/h the amount of radiation you would pick up is just slightly more then you get from eating a banana (5.3 nSv/h)
seshmarls 1 week ago
@porrsmurfen Since the system has its own search and its own tracking radars, it would be entirely possible and there are regulations pertaining to operations, especially within close proximity to other ships or structures. Yeah, I AM a former CIWS tech!
TrapperJohn5719 2 months ago
@porrsmurfen The reason it can give radiation burns is because that giant dome on top of the weapon consists of a radar system that can burn your skin if you stand too close to it.
cottoncoddens 1 month ago
@porrsmurfen People, The gun is dealing with incredible amounts energy, so it gets hot. So hot that the heat can burn you without actually touching it. It 'radiates' heat that burns you, its not radioactive...
Tanks are covered in depleted uranium armor and filled with depleted uranium shells, but they are not radioactive in a dangerous way. Hence "Depleted"
DigitalDesignDJ 1 month ago
@DigitalDesignDJ wrong it is still radioactive just not as strong as U235 but if there is long term exposure it will fuck you up .
TheIhateurface 1 month ago
@porrsmurfen did you know it has its own radar array built in? if you get inside six feet its track radar presents RADHAZ and mount movement hazard. however, it would be very difficult to get in front of the beam.
koffeekage 1 month ago
@seize7days Yeah, you will get burns if you stand too close. POWDER Burns that is.
Sure, DU has traces of radioactivity, but still it isn't harmful. Unless you maybe swallow a few rounds, but I think that a bit heavy on the tummy.
Also: The rounds being red hot doesn't matter at all for the radioactivity.
Also 2: DU emits only alpha radiation. Maybe 0.01% Gamma.
Please study up before you post.
wouternet94 2 weeks ago
@Filo127 It's true, and Depleted Uranium rounds are being scrutinized (not closely enough IMHO) by veteran's and military organizations in the western world as they've been suspected to have caused increased rates of certain types of cancers, birth defects et al in veterans and the people occupying countries where America (mainly) has waged wars with tanks, jets and naval vessels using DU rounds. It may be depleted, and just the core of a bullet/shell, but it's still uranium.
Bizzmark11 2 months ago
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@Bizzmark11 Actually, I believe they have changed over to tungsten rounds now. No radiation involved. Yeah, I AM a former CIWS tech!
TrapperJohn5719 2 months ago
@Filo127 I think it has to do with hand-holding a camera and zooming in
hiimbrady 1 month ago
It depends on the missle size and range at which it is engaged, but about 100 rounds per missle is considered good.
Ckelly0410 3 months ago
The system uses a cosntantly upgraded radar system that tracks its own bullets and can use that to adjust if needed. i've watched this system destroy a towed missle drone, and track and shoot the cable that was towing the drone. The system has no problems shooting down misles especially slow anti ship missles. The new system even has a thermal "eye" to attack small craft.
mrjurun 3 months ago
@mrjurun how many missile's can it shoot down before it runs out? not trying to be funny, I think that's a really important question.
ninjabob52 3 months ago
@ninjabob52 This gun doesnt just randomlly fire at the target,It shoot's in front of the nose to it has a better shot of killing the missile without using alot of ammo.
1bearcatf8f 3 months ago
@1bearcatf8f I understand how it works, was just wondering how many rounds it averages per missile.
ninjabob52 3 months ago
@ninjabob52 average is probably 3000-4000 rounds a minute.The Phalanx track's the missile's nose so it save's some ammo.Add alot of these you have a formitable wall of fire.
1bearcatf8f 3 months ago
God, the vibration from it is so great that even the camera's recording is warped a bit. ._.
MayorQwert 3 months ago
Freedom fart on the water?
DRHAX11 3 months ago
Unproven weapon. In a real war scenario against a formidable enemy I don't think this weapon would be very effective as there are ways to confuse the radar/electronics.
camlpg 3 months ago
@camlpg All anti-air defenses on aircraft carriers use radar. Like the RIM-116, used since 1976, I'm pretty sure it has been proven.
bobmclightning 3 months ago
@bobmclightning Canada does have this Phalanx system on many of its ships and there have been some 'bugs' in the system being reported. In one reported test run the missile from the system reportedly turned around from intended target and headed back towards the ship.
camlpg 3 months ago
@camlpg Well then why don't we just stop making these weapons, throw up our hands, and give up now???
SouthTexasRich 3 months ago
@SouthTexasRich It was not my point to say these types of weapons are not necessary. My point is do these weapons work efficiently. Could also throw in cost(usually at a gross mark-up because arms manufacturers know that politicians don't need to worry about 1000% mark-up because the taxpayer pays the bill).
camlpg 3 months ago
@camlpg I know. Thanks for being civil. I was being a little sarcastic. Sorry if I came off like an a##.
SouthTexasRich 3 months ago
@SouthTexasRich Dont' worry about it. You came across as being pretty civil.
I get a little excited lately because our Canadian fed. gov't is going on a multi-billion dollar military spending spree on ships, jets, and APV yet gives pennies to poor students, seniors, and the unemployed.
camlpg 3 months ago
luke skywalker- GEEZ, ... what crawled up R2's ass!!
conlyeviper 3 months ago
that thing is titties
Nikitabanana88 3 months ago
CIWS was designed and built for Navy ships as anti-missile and anti-air defense. When the Army started to use (known as C-RAM) it for defense of the Green Zone in Baghdad, the Army didn't have anyone who knew how to operate, maintain and repair it. So it called up the Navy's Firecontolmen to do the job. Many sailor FC's were sent from Ship to shore to help protect thier Army brothers.
lgd1974 3 months ago
In my day, when I worked on it, and before the Navy had women Firecontrolmen, us FC's called it "R2D2 with a hard-on".
lgd1974 3 months ago
Looks like R2D2 was upgraded with a dick.
recoilhurts 3 months ago 3
that is R2D2 with a dick
zaprs 4 months ago 2
not even Chuck Norris saw it coming at first
trigerhappy011 4 months ago
VTEC KICKED IN
southernclassik 4 months ago
Dear Santa..
louisekaille 4 months ago
holy shit even teh camera is geting fucked up by the sound :D
nela04 4 months ago
Used against incoming missiles, it fires rounds with depleted uranium in the tips. the dome houses a radar that detects high speed contacts. For example it won't track a helicopter unless it locks onto the tail rotor, it won't track a prop aircraft unless it can lock onto the propeller. It is called the Phalanx after the shield formation that Greek soldiers used. It will put a wall of lead in front of an incoming missile and destroy it.
jesterd14 4 months ago
get some iraqi
macgize 4 months ago
CIWS: when a few bullets just won't do.
jasontangy 4 months ago
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i wish this mortar cannon can use DOUBLE cannon guns than one single gun,,, io--O--oi
bestamerica 4 months ago
why is there that dome? does it contain a radar dish?
CRAZYhill112or999 4 months ago
@CRAZYhill112or999 If I'm not mistaken, alot of the machinery and the ammo is stored in there. If you notice, it just hangs in its cradle with nothing really underneath.
BrainCreep 4 months ago
@BrainCreep The dome contains the radar the ammo is stored underneath the weapon within the hull of the ship
fairclought7 4 months ago
@fairclought7 Close, but not quite accurate or on target. The expended ammo sheels are recycled back through a chute into the ammunition drum directly below the gun-cradle. The ammo is NOT stored withiin the hull of the ship. The ammunition drum is also exposed to weather. I should know: I always had to clean salt spray off of mine when I worked on it aboard the USS Independence, CV-62 ( 1995-1998).
lgd1974 3 months ago
@lgd1974 yes i knew i wasn't quite right, people were saying it was stored in the radar dome but i knew it was stored underneath the weapon and just assumed by the way they are fitted to some ships that they could be below the deck, im not too sure how the Goalkeeper CIWS is set up but the RN use both weapon systems and maybe i was getting my wires crossed but thanks for the info, im always happy to learn and be corrected if im wrong..
fairclought7 3 months ago
@fairclought7 actually you are incorrect about the ammo, it is in a drum under the gun. It holds 1,500 or so rounds and has to be reloaded. you can see diagrams online from many sources including the manufacturer. It is a self contained system which enables it to traverse such a wide degree of angles. if the ammo feed was in the ship, the system would not be as agile.
BrainCreep 3 months ago
thats one nasty looking vibrator haha
camwizardoz 4 months ago
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that's a big dildo on top.
lordvader5246 4 months ago
that's a big fuckin dildo on top.
lordvader5246 4 months ago
Gun's so powerful it fucks up the camera's reception.
mercenary1121 4 months ago
r2d2 with boner = win
Mrinsanepain 5 months ago
whoa haha. i was not expecting for the thing to move like that.
bjacksonj1994 5 months ago
paint the top blue and call it marge simpson
mattwins18 5 months ago 67
@mattwins18 Marge Simpson is much deadlier than this weapon.
ushockey08 3 months ago
@ushockey08 its the closest we got to marge so we gotta make do
mattwins18 3 months ago
81 Somali Pirates have seen this vid !!
wrxmike123 5 months ago 128
@wrxmike123 86 ^^
NavalFroces 4 months ago
чо за перлёж!!!!!!!!!!!!!
XD
semyonchik1961 5 months ago
@semyonchik1961 lol
TheLambsandwich 4 months ago
r2d2 with boner :D
TheDawess 5 months ago 4
Poor bird
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wwwtotalitaerde 5 months ago
I like how this gun is so powerful it warps the video tape when it fires.
jeffreyjackson1986 5 months ago 4
What's the noise during the firing? Electromagnetic noise?
shr70 5 months ago
Is the CWIS automated or are there remote firing controls?
2y8b4plz 5 months ago
paint a picture of ms. Debby from Debby cakes on the tank and there you go
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barettmario 5 months ago
anyone seen footage of one of these things actually hitting a missile?
CNCTEMATIC 5 months ago
@CNCTEMATIC yeah. its here just keep looking. probably titled 20mm ciws goalkeeper.
hasnachos 5 months ago
It sounds like someone cutting the grass .
stevenpaddybwoy 5 months ago
Put this Phalanx 20mm for fishman in Gulf of Eden,Africa..Will fuck the pirates for sure!
CharlieDoan 5 months ago
What is the big white thing for?
BaronDaze 5 months ago
@BaronDaze Wikipedia ;) Read it by yourself
Arkanii1 5 months ago
@BaronDaze Bullets,and lots of them !
wrxmike123 5 months ago
i love how the film shakes
Cyberhawks706 5 months ago
CIWS also stands for Captain It Won't Shoot
lSHANXl 5 months ago
ich will auch mal ;D
LOLder42 5 months ago
No kamakazie attacks on this boat!
granddad2002 5 months ago
pss pss pss here mr pirate. come out and play a little game.
themellowflame20 5 months ago
@StuntedSnail anti aircraft I think
nickandkenny16 5 months ago
what are those guns used for?
StuntedSnail 5 months ago
@StuntedSnail
The CIWS is intended to shoot down things such aircraft, cruise missiles, or anti ship missiles that gets past the Destroyer screens and the ships own defensive weapons. The CIWS is considered the last line of defense. If something gets past the CIWS brace for impact. The CIWS Block 1B can engage surface targets as well.
A land base version used in Iraq is called C-RAM.
There is also a missile based version called SeaRam.
Anlushac11 5 months ago
R2D2 with a Hard on
MurryBob 5 months ago
You know youtube has spoiled you when even this gun dissappoints you.
TheWhatdoesthatmean 6 months ago
R2D2 with a boner?
HachiZenki 6 months ago
I like it's hat
baconat3r 6 months ago
Glad i don't have to clean the Barrels!
panzerman22 6 months ago
They have to fire in short bursts like that to keep the barrel assemblies from MELTING!!!
nhvalentine 6 months ago
@nhvalentine actually the short bursts that you see here are for the PAC fires. it stand for pre-aim-calibration. it aligns the track antenna in the dome with where the rounds go. In a real situation the gun will shoot until the target is out of its engagement envelope. curtesy of a US Navy CIWS technician.
batty224 4 months ago
THIS WILL KEEP THOSE DAMNED CROWS OUT OF MY GARDEN! Muhahah!
CommanderLukas 6 months ago
@CommanderLukas they're not that big when u see them up close they actually look smaller
TheHardrock000 6 months ago
OOhh, R2D2 has gone to the Dark Side!
ElenarMT 6 months ago
I used that gun against the Japanese kamikaze planes!
DitMeManhDungTriet 6 months ago
It looks like a hightec fog machine..
Pwnerandboner 6 months ago
Stay... the fuck... out of... my boat... ya damn hippies!!
CommandoFin 6 months ago
If you need a machine to make you some ground beef then this is it.
aznassasin93 6 months ago
Who cares if it's ugly or not. All the matters is how effective it is.
rocknrolldude3280 7 months ago
That is a Gatling gun. Highly developed one. Italians make it too.
Jyrki1964 7 months ago
wow this CIWS is ugly, Id rather go with russian AK-630 its allround better protection, 30mm round can't go wrong its better then this ugly 20mm.
BilalNoorAlhaqq 7 months ago
@BilalNoorAlhaqq i'll take this over any russian made gun.
USSWISCONSIN64 6 months ago
@BilalNoorAlhaqq this has better RPS and dosent take long to reload conidering the 20mm
0815tdl 6 months ago