FREEMAN IS A BEAST ! MUCH RESPECT FOR HIM ... Mead and her supporters are fools haha . .. she wrote a lot of bullshit about samoa and its culture and in some respects i find it really offensive as a samoan but I find it also very amusing that us "PRIMITIVE" samoans can fool a highly "EDUCATED" scientist hahahaha
I'm a Samoan who grew up and lived on the island for over 30yrs. Reading Margaret's book and what she did was good for anthropology but a great misunderstanding and misrepresentation of our culture. What Dr. Faanaafi Le Tagaloa said was soo true. Margaret brought her ideas and believes from America and used Samoa as a frame for her theory. All based on a lie from a few teenage girls. Thanks to Dr Freeman! You got to live, speak and be part of a culture in order to find the truth.
Mead was made up her own ideas to let people of the world to feel interest with her romantic ideas,she was in science field,her mind was more felt romantic and sweet feelings everytime also she was 23 years old of her working in samoa,the years of mead feel like the sea which never turn in sweet,as a stomach which never full of lovely motion,reflect with her ideas,,,,,,,,,:-)
What a liberal slut who just proved why her whole gender still fights for equality. truly a pathetic whorish woman with a stinch problem in the wrong place !! LMAO :)
but freeman immersed himself into our culture, he held our customs to a greater degree of respect, which is more than what i can say for Mead and her account. I read Freeman's book and it doesn't seem to undermine Mead's fame.. just her inferences, which were very misleading and very prejudiced. But you are right that the facts should be more important because M's whole account of Samoa is something that deeply offends me as a Samoan.
I can't help but feel that too many people like to throw this "ignorant gullible romantic liberal white woman" stereotype at Margaret Mead, which her work really doesn't reflect at all. It's a shame, because it's mainly used to take away intellectual accomplishments and contributions from women's history. She was very ahead of her time, but her conclusions are usually oversimplified and overstated, so as to make her look naive/romantic.
If you're REALLY into anthropology, check out the work of the Vilas-Boas brothers on the amazon tribes, that was a heroic job, done with dedication and integrity.
the locals were having a little joke with mead.she probably thought the locals were not very sophisticated.you don,t need modern conveience to be smart.we polynesians are born with a lot of insight.the locals knew what she was about but she never had a clue what they were really thinking,she prseumed to know.europeans have usually made this mistake with all peoples.
As far as i know, we shouldnt be fool'd & manipulated by the white mans tongue . . they (white man) kome to our island for a kouple of weeks & write dokumentaries & journals but really are justed making money off of us with their lies & twists. . we should really ask our parents & great grand parents koz really they are the heart of our motherland . . they'v had history passed down from generation to generation . . as far as i know its all real anyway !!
Spot on........we don't need toffey nosed aristocrats writing down something and then its knowledge. it is an insult to indigenous people to summarize their lives throught he eyes of an aristocratic, elitest white woman.
Elitist white women are not lying, they are just ignorant. I am a student who majored in anthropology, and I have saw many of my classmates (mostly white girls who don't know anything outside of America) just like to "imagine" how non-White people live in a paradise.
When I asked them "do you care about truth?" They simply replied "there is no absolute truth" and keep saying their bullshit.
When Mead and other 'toffee nosed aristocrats' were bringing Samoa, New Guinea and the Trobriands to popular attention to show that the 'truths' we took for granted were socially constructed, people in those places had few opportunities to represent themselves. Anthropologists then including Mead opened up pathways that in time allowed 'indigenous' peoples to speak for themselves. marrow777 is talking a load of bollocks. (And despite my YouTube handle, I am NOT a ;toffee nosed aristocrat'!)
I don't see how that applies to who Margaret Mead was or what she thought and did. She was working and writing in a time when the idea that "human nature is malleable" hadn't even occurred to North Americans! She was one of the very first people to propose, based on her observations and interviews with different indigenous peoples and her own society, that male and female gender roles varied in different cultures and so probably were not innate.
He recognized the inaccuracy of her work. He dissected it, analyzed it and what he came to conclude is closer to the truth than anything else I've read thus far. Call it a corrective diagnosis.
Now if you read Derek's book, you'll see just how extensive his research really was. He really got up close and personal with Samoa and her people. His was a frequent visit that lasted a lifetime. I mean he goes back, way back. Makes mention of John Williams from the London Missionary Society and all that shit. He's pretty deep.
You have to take into mind that she was 23 when she graduated. She chose Samoa as the first place to get her feet wet. What I mean by that is, in order for your work to be given credence, you have to gain experience in your field. You have to put in the time to really utilize what you've isolated and learned during you collegiate grooming.
'They read, they commented and they were involved.' I remember reading her book, 'Coming of age in Samoa.' Not long after that I read Derek Freeman's book. Basically it was a correction of an anthropological work. I, as a Samoan would have to say that he was more on point.
women fail again hurrhurrhurr
Penguinz13989 3 months ago
Another attempt by whites to justify the stupidity of other whites and present it to the world as the gospel truth.
shitty1one 10 months ago
FREEMAN IS A BEAST ! MUCH RESPECT FOR HIM ... Mead and her supporters are fools haha . .. she wrote a lot of bullshit about samoa and its culture and in some respects i find it really offensive as a samoan but I find it also very amusing that us "PRIMITIVE" samoans can fool a highly "EDUCATED" scientist hahahaha
lemon4114 10 months ago
Margaret mead has a huge vagina
edanxkr 1 year ago
She could never come to admit that her work on our country was deeply flawed! Stuck up cow!
Toops144 1 year ago
are you serious? kkk during the day? marching? like its Oktoberfest or something?
Wow.. wow... wow..
JIHOJIJO 1 year ago
I'm a Samoan who grew up and lived on the island for over 30yrs. Reading Margaret's book and what she did was good for anthropology but a great misunderstanding and misrepresentation of our culture. What Dr. Faanaafi Le Tagaloa said was soo true. Margaret brought her ideas and believes from America and used Samoa as a frame for her theory. All based on a lie from a few teenage girls. Thanks to Dr Freeman! You got to live, speak and be part of a culture in order to find the truth.
islanderws 1 year ago
Mead was made up her own ideas to let people of the world to feel interest with her romantic ideas,she was in science field,her mind was more felt romantic and sweet feelings everytime also she was 23 years old of her working in samoa,the years of mead feel like the sea which never turn in sweet,as a stomach which never full of lovely motion,reflect with her ideas,,,,,,,,,:-)
manusamoa2009 1 year ago
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manusamoa2009 1 year ago
What a liberal slut who just proved why her whole gender still fights for equality. truly a pathetic whorish woman with a stinch problem in the wrong place !! LMAO :)
EducatedRebellion101 1 year ago
what year was this made?
2reapers 2 years ago
It seems like Mead and Freeman only really cared about was there personal fame.
Learning about a culture seemed to be secondary to them.
Also the from reading some of the comments it would seem that debate of Mead vs Freeman has come down to childish name calling.
If you disagree with Mead; your labeled misogynistic. And if you disagree with Freeman, your called a naive liberal.
The facts should always be more important; not your personal politics.
WolfSnake77 2 years ago 5
Thank you! You really enlighten me.
inferno0020 2 years ago
A person who wants to be famous will not go on to be an anthropologist.
jonhulk 2 years ago
@WolfSnake77
but freeman immersed himself into our culture, he held our customs to a greater degree of respect, which is more than what i can say for Mead and her account. I read Freeman's book and it doesn't seem to undermine Mead's fame.. just her inferences, which were very misleading and very prejudiced. But you are right that the facts should be more important because M's whole account of Samoa is something that deeply offends me as a Samoan.
lemon4114 10 months ago
I can't help but feel that too many people like to throw this "ignorant gullible romantic liberal white woman" stereotype at Margaret Mead, which her work really doesn't reflect at all. It's a shame, because it's mainly used to take away intellectual accomplishments and contributions from women's history. She was very ahead of her time, but her conclusions are usually oversimplified and overstated, so as to make her look naive/romantic.
fortwashingtonzu 2 years ago
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rtadams1234 1 year ago
whats up with the audio
themachinegunn 2 years ago
If you're REALLY into anthropology, check out the work of the Vilas-Boas brothers on the amazon tribes, that was a heroic job, done with dedication and integrity.
comaradella 3 years ago
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hipp0nazo 3 years ago
Thanks for uploading!
freyaclub 3 years ago
Freeman did it for the lulz
chaosadvance 4 years ago 2
XD DEFINATELY!
maxthepyro 4 years ago
lol
inferno0020 3 years ago
the locals were having a little joke with mead.she probably thought the locals were not very sophisticated.you don,t need modern conveience to be smart.we polynesians are born with a lot of insight.the locals knew what she was about but she never had a clue what they were really thinking,she prseumed to know.europeans have usually made this mistake with all peoples.
kilrkane 4 years ago 6
As far as i know, we shouldnt be fool'd & manipulated by the white mans tongue . . they (white man) kome to our island for a kouple of weeks & write dokumentaries & journals but really are justed making money off of us with their lies & twists. . we should really ask our parents & great grand parents koz really they are the heart of our motherland . . they'v had history passed down from generation to generation . . as far as i know its all real anyway !!
SamoanBlood 4 years ago
Spot on........we don't need toffey nosed aristocrats writing down something and then its knowledge. it is an insult to indigenous people to summarize their lives throught he eyes of an aristocratic, elitest white woman.
marrow777 3 years ago
Elitist white women are not lying, they are just ignorant. I am a student who majored in anthropology, and I have saw many of my classmates (mostly white girls who don't know anything outside of America) just like to "imagine" how non-White people live in a paradise.
When I asked them "do you care about truth?" They simply replied "there is no absolute truth" and keep saying their bullshit.
inferno0020 3 years ago
I hate to admit it but I studied social anthropology also!!
marrow777 3 years ago
yap, me too.
oLadoLunar 2 years ago
By the way, I love the way this documentary introduce this topic. It just caught my eyes when the first time i watched it.
inferno0020 3 years ago
When Mead and other 'toffee nosed aristocrats' were bringing Samoa, New Guinea and the Trobriands to popular attention to show that the 'truths' we took for granted were socially constructed, people in those places had few opportunities to represent themselves. Anthropologists then including Mead opened up pathways that in time allowed 'indigenous' peoples to speak for themselves. marrow777 is talking a load of bollocks. (And despite my YouTube handle, I am NOT a ;toffee nosed aristocrat'!)
LadyPuddleton 2 years ago
I don't see how that applies to who Margaret Mead was or what she thought and did. She was working and writing in a time when the idea that "human nature is malleable" hadn't even occurred to North Americans! She was one of the very first people to propose, based on her observations and interviews with different indigenous peoples and her own society, that male and female gender roles varied in different cultures and so probably were not innate.
fortwashingtonzu 2 years ago
He recognized the inaccuracy of her work. He dissected it, analyzed it and what he came to conclude is closer to the truth than anything else I've read thus far. Call it a corrective diagnosis.
5191132 4 years ago
Now if you read Derek's book, you'll see just how extensive his research really was. He really got up close and personal with Samoa and her people. His was a frequent visit that lasted a lifetime. I mean he goes back, way back. Makes mention of John Williams from the London Missionary Society and all that shit. He's pretty deep.
5191132 4 years ago
You have to take into mind that she was 23 when she graduated. She chose Samoa as the first place to get her feet wet. What I mean by that is, in order for your work to be given credence, you have to gain experience in your field. You have to put in the time to really utilize what you've isolated and learned during you collegiate grooming.
5191132 4 years ago
'They read, they commented and they were involved.' I remember reading her book, 'Coming of age in Samoa.' Not long after that I read Derek Freeman's book. Basically it was a correction of an anthropological work. I, as a Samoan would have to say that he was more on point.
5191132 4 years ago
I was just wondering if you knew what the original air date was for this program?
wicketkeeper36 4 years ago