Why are you concerned for those who haven't been born yet? We have people here and now who need help, quit adding to the problem you close minded parasites. Just let people be people.
Yea cashmoney5490 doesn't have a degree but the person using has multiple. Laughable.
You know. People have to die. Baby's are people. There is a reason why human babies are some of the most vulnerable baby's among all species. They are meant to die. Survival of the FITTEST and technology is the only thing that is warping and confusing your mind that that principle isn't still around. It is. And when you save those baby's that are not the FITTEST. The they ruin the rest of our mediocre wo
I didn't vote for him but he was right. At the time he answered the question, he was still a junior senator. So it may very well be above his pay grade. If he says the same answer now, then he has some investigation to do on what pay grade is higher than his.
@cashmoney5490 thats an ignorant statement, what people dont realize is there are programs out there that you can go to where they have parents who can't have children they even pay your medical bills as long as you give them your child also not including orphanages so its not hopeless just selfish
ummm... why are you asking a president to decide what you want to believe about humanity? and the last statement.. "Amercians should know" is sad. Figure it out on your own, find people like you that believe the same way, and when there are enough of you as a group, the President will win your votes by having your idea as his own and then the "Americans" will know when "human life begins" ...(grow up)
The same people who push sooooooo hard to stop abortions are the same ones who don't give a shit about the kid once it is born. If a baby is gonna be brought up in a horrible life then he shouldn't have to live it.
I hope that all the people who are against abortions end up having loved ones killed by a psychopath killer who would have been aborted If it wasnt for people being against it.
@cashmoney5490 - Besides knowing you'll never matriculate from an institution of learning above high school- I am also thankful that you will never be in a position to make decisions that affect others. Clearly- your moral compass is so warped, that I am surprised you can find your way home at night.
Those who are against abortion are for life, wherever that life is, throughout that life. To say they "stop caring" at some point is ignorant, at best. That person (not "it") has a right to life.
o and as for the economy going down u cn put that on everybodys fav coke head g w for that shit storm obama jus walked into it hes doin the best he cn at wat he has to wrk with im n the army i almost didnt get paid cus of the fuk up that bush did now its damage control till the end of obamas term even the next president is gonna have probs with this thanks bush u fuk up
check it out charlesdjones1 jesus christ is not the creator he was a prophet to most and the son of the creator to many get ur facts right b4 u get all christian on us jesus is not god ,,,,,god is god and jesus is jesus
"Their opinion on this question has nothing to with their character or their capabilities. Actions count. Beliefs are just that: Beliefs. The End. "
For all the "non-believers" out in the world today, there is a God who exist, a Creator of all the things we see and all the people who live and breathe, named Jesus Christ. For ever one who thinks they won't give an account one day for their actions, I'm sorry to inform you that you are wrong. The universe was created on principles of absolute.
This question is too difficult and nuanced to be answered effectively in a single sentence. Kudos to Obama for giving a thoughtful answer, rather than simplifying the issue to a slogan or a talking point.
How in the flying fuck can you prolife MORONS expect a woman to carry a baby made from RAPE. If you got raped or your daughter got raped, how could you possibly expect to carry a baby made of rage terror and hate to full term? Then every time you see that baby you will remember being RAPED. You people are the sick ones not us
"Answering that question with any kind of specificity is above my pay grade." Translated from Politician to English, folks, that means "I don't give a shit."
Obama answered this question good but not eloquent, maybe because it's up to every person to either undertake an abortion or not, he doesn't get paid to answer peoples personal questions
When is a baby entitled to human rights? When it gets a social security number. Give it up, pro-lifers. Planned parenthood and abortion clinics aren't going anywhere. If you want babies falling all out your ass, more power to you. But don't attack other women that don't to be locked to some little rat because her pill didn't work that night.
in this same interview i recall obama calling pregnancy a disease and punishment. i want to find that clip anyone know where i can find it. also forget the name of the guy doing the interview.
The issue maybe complex but why wouldn't you error on the side of life. I think people should be able to make there own choices and do almost anything they want as long as it doesn't affect someone else. I think that abortion takes the right that the child has at life and giving someone a right to choose that takes away from someone else's rights. Thats why I have a hard time listening to libertarians say its a freedom issue, although I consider myself a libertarian.
Its unethical to bring life into the world just for the sake of life alone, and its child abuse to force an unwanted child to be born to a life of despair. To choose not to give birth when there's little foundation for that child's well-being is a moral and caring act. We, as pro-choicers simply dont believe that an embryo or fetus has the same moral claim on us as born children and the women who bear them, or the same capacity to suffer and feel emotions.
@quintaar17: Actually, it IS a libertarian issue... the dilemma is that, at whatever moment on the continuum between conception and birth human individuality occurs, from that point on there is person whose rights have to be protected. As a non-Catholic, I don't have the luxury of an overriding religious authority... as a thinking person, I have to assume that life begins at the earliest possible point, until science gives us evidence to the contrary.
Obama is showing something called humility by recognizing the nature of this complex issue. He even points out that it is not the president's job to decide such issues, you could even construe this quote to mean he was deferring to a higher power (i.e. God, or Allah, or whoever.) I did not get why this statement was even an issue during the campaign. Perhaps I'm better off not wasting my time trying to understand conservatives.
While we're at it, let's make male masterbation illegel too! I bet some religious people would say that's a sin, but before you open your mouth do some research on what religious persecution has done throughout history. Who's right? Who's wrong? I don't like walnuts, almonds or pecans on my food... Should I now attack the food industry? The world would be a much better place if everyone would stop being so cynical. Put a Walmart in the middle east and bring our troops home!
Pres. Obama answeres all questions asked of him the same way. So, he wasn't dodging the question, he was merely choosing his words wisely and thinking about what he was going to say. He took an objective view... SO WHAT. I'm not an Obama supporter, I voted for McCain, but only because I knew Ron Paul wasn't going to win because America was afraid of him. To each his/her own. If you feel YOUR baby has human rights at conception; fine, but if you don't who's "right" is it to say one way or another
OK, if it is above his pay grade is he saying that it's God's decision cause I would think He is the highest paid in the universe. Which gives Him the right to answer and His answer is in the Bible. If we are made up of many cells does that not link the beginning of our existence to conception. That also makes Him the only one that has the right to give and take life. He gives it at CONCEPTION. He takes it when He thinks we are ready.
I bet you are sure glad your mom allowed you to get those human right you are talking about. Good thing for you bad for us, that she thought better to give this child life rather than it will inconvience me so kill it.
I bet you are sure glad your mom allowed you to get those human right you are talking about. Good thing for you bad for us, that she thought better to give this child life rather than it will inconvience me so kill it.
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action."
We shouldn't be arguing against each other, we should be arguing about how both sides steal from the American people and aren't charged in the court of law. We should be standing up against the government, together, and telling them enough is enough. Why do we sit back and let them control us and continue to make us pay higher and higher taxes and spending doesn't go down and our debt to china continues to increase?
Conception is when they baby is conceived, not delivered. How do you get that McCain is for abortion out of that? What is a perfect answer anyways? The question was simple, and yet both answers were so different. I didn't like either candidate and still don't. If you voted for the lesser of two evils, you still got evil. Unfortunately we landed the greater of two evils. Sorry America!!
So what is your point? We should kill children because African Americans, Native Americans, and women had fewer in the past. Life begins at inception, therefore, a baby has human rights.
I said nothing about killing children; how dare you? I was simply saying the question was not of life but of rights. I was illustrating that point by stating that many people in the past and even now in our world are born without human rights.
I was also not agreeing nor disagreeing with the President, or you for that matter. Stop jumping down people's throats with your urge to argue.
Sorry, but that is how your statement comes across. I didn't understand your point and it is still not entirely clear. It sounded like you are making an argument for abortion, based on past human rights issues. I don't have any need to argue, but that is how your statement came across. Don't get mad at me, just clarify your statement. Thanks
I understand the difference in the question. The point I was driving at is "does that matter" to him. To some it would not matter based on the belief that once inception begins, and the fetus becomes life, then the fetus has rights and the role of government is to protect those rights. Others may believe "no it doesn't have any rights" and it is "Ok" to kill the fetus. Scientifically, life begins at inception and I would suggest, so do human rights.
As for the comment, you're probably correct and I may have read to far into his statement, I apologize to him. I realize it is a sensitive topic and I should have chosen better worlds. I don't like it when people attack, etc. either, so I stand corrected.
And you know what there's more times than not that I've thought to myself just how much I've hated this world and sincerely wished I had not been brought in it. But you know what I'm not left with much of choice. So instead I take the 'road less traveled' in hopes i can educate people to be warm and caring but intelligent as well.... its been nigh impossible so far. People as a whole are still ignorant of a great many things. In truth, i fear for what will become of us.
Its extremely lonely, and miserable, because instead acting blindly on beliefs I make decisions based on facts. The truth behind a question or a scenario can not be based on beliefs because then there would be multiple truths, but there can only be one truth, so beliefs must be omitted. Use the brain that you got and learn theres more than one side to every issue and its just as simple as it might seem at first.
@ Tvicena - Look I'm sorry your wife can't have children. But that doesnt change my scenario any one bit. Abortion is not an easy topic. And just as they can't decide whether or not they live, they can't decide for themselves who they're born to or to what kind of life. So stop looking at every damn thing with such a narrowminded point of view. Its equally as horrible to bring about a life into the world that will be wrought with needless pain and suffering.
Could you in good conscience knowing full well the kind of sh***y life your child is going to have and the fact its a result of your own mistake because of a life you were forced into in order to survive still make that decision and be happy with yourself? Take the word abortion out of the equation, would you lead a friend or family member down a path that you knew for certain was laid with pain and hardship when there was nothing to come of it?
what if your mother wasn't willing to sacrifice ,suffer pain and spend time nurturing and caring fo you i guess that would of been below her pay grade. i can't stand pathetic self absorbed self centered lowlifes my wife is unable to have children. and you shits think its ok to throw a life away you make me want to vomit!
Look, the man is being political, he knows full well that making an official statement to such a controversial topic would clearly state which 'side' he's on when he is infact try to work for everyone as a whole. The subject of abortion isn't an easy one. In a country such as this where a baby has the opportunity to be something, what about in other certain asian cultures where the illegitimate children born of prostitution bares girls that are 99.9% certain to have life again of prostitution?
Quick! Someone start paying him a lot of money so that he can have an opinion! His opinions on everything have gone to the highest bidder, and this just proves it.
"Above my pay grade". Notice how he so eloquently avoided the question regarding abortion. Shame on anyone who voted for this man. 96 % voted for him. You can't trust them folks. They are dishonest.
for once obama tells the truth. this question is above his paygrade...who are we to decide who lives and who dies. if a living, growing fetus doesnt have rights than why should we think we have any more rights. why do we think we can make these "mistakes" and then just erase them like on a math test as if it never meant anything. its time people learn from their mistakes and grow as a person.
Um, actually, that's not all he cares about is money. Seeing as how he isn't John McCain who left his (1st) disabled wife who waited for him while he was a POW then left her for a trust fund baby (which is Cindy incase you didn't know) and now owns 10 houses, 7 cars, and a private jet.
If he's so intelligent, then why couldn't he answer a simple question? I'll tell you why - because he thinks it's OK to kill babies. Who could possibly think partial birth abortion is humane? It's a fully developed infant. Shame.
He is an Anti-American Muslem. He said he would pledge allegence to the flag Because He said those words dont reflect his personal Convictions. He sat Under a pastor For years who is anti-American and Obama and his Wife are as well. The Funny thing is some ignorant Heathen Elected for themselves a Man who Hates them. Why? He promised a bigger tax rebate than McCain. They Sold thier Soul for a few hundred more.
how come most people on here under the age of 25 seem like they dont have but two brain cells to rub together? and those that have two, one of them is waving goodbye to the other one . maybe that is why they are like parrots mimicking what they have heard from others with the same affliction
Oh, and there's those of us who hate being on this earth. As self centered or 'cold' as I maybe I see everything from every angle and everyone's point of view. You know what's like being logical in an unlogical world that's operated soley on 'beliefs'? You're mocked and ridiculed. I get slams from people like you every F'ing day, while i watch yourselves run this planet into the ground tearing each other to pieces over 'beliefs'.
if you hate being here why don't you try to find some good in it ....go outside and spend sometime there.btw pain and hardship are good for character building if you look at it in those terms i'm sure it will change your outlook on things...well i hope it does anyway...
Again, looking at things from both sides not all pain and suffering is necessary nor does it build and sometimes tend to warp people and twist them into bitter hollow people with a chip on their shoulder. Granted some pain is necessary for growth and development, and does in fact build 'character' but you can not adopt such an extreme view that pain is always a good thing. Because then what would be the point of pain to begin with?
Its above his knowledge? Its really f'ing simple people. The president understand that in order to achieve anything he's going to have to have the support of everyone as a whole. And even if he had an idea or belief in regards to the topic in question his beliefs have no place because its his job to speak on behalf of the people of the nation and since the nation doesn't have one solid agreement on the aforementioned subject he is merely reflecting that. Is that so hard to understand? Seriously.
So, basically what you are saying is since the nation can't come to a conclusion about abortion, Obama has no right to since it's his job to speak on behalf of the people of the nation?
I could deal with that. It can stay above his pay grade as far as I'm concerned. xD
All answers are above his pay grade without a teleprompter. He doesn't even know what he is saying, he reads it. Hillary Clinton said it herself, "thats not change you can believe in,thats change you can zerox" referring to the fact that nothing he says comes from his own mind. He is a puppet to his sponsor's socialist agendas. We are one step away from being every country that ever loathed us and hated us for being free.
Being a man means knowing what you believe about lifes fundamental issues, such as when life begins, and showing the courage to state and stand up for those beliefs. And being a man is a non-paying position.
As Commander-in-Chief, he will be required to know when certain lives may have to end. If answering the first question is above his pay grade, then so is the second.
"Number one," said Obama, explaining his reluctance to protect born infants, "whenever we define a pre-viable fetus as a person that is protected by the Equal Protection Clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a - a child, a 9-month old -- child that was delivered to term.
Why doesn't NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC or Fox ever put this on TV??? If McCain answered a question like like this...that's all we'd hear about on every channel. Wake up America!!
Above his pay grade? It wasn't above his pay grade to determine to advocate infanticide in his home state. What a coward. If anyone wants to really understand where Obama is coming from, read the Focus on the Family October newsletter; great exposition of the issues facing America, and how Obama is so out of touch with his intended constituency.
Obama single handily defeated the Born Alive Infant Protection Act in Illinois, requiring hospitals to care for infants who survived an abortion- after a hospital left babies born alive to just die. Obama CLAIMED he would have voted for the bill had it contained a one sentence "neutrality clause" as the federal bill. Later, Obama voted against the amended bill that was virtually identical to the federal law. BUT he STILL insists that he would have voted for if he'd had the chance.
what in the HELL!?!?!?! He can't say when life begins because of his PAY GRADE!?!? And no one is questioning this answer? This is NUTS!
He fails time and time again with answering questions effectively, efficiently, and with legitimacy.
This all is a job interview for President of the United States... he doesn't have the experience. PERIOD. He's a rookie and we don't have the luxury of giving him on the job training!
Thank you for posting this! If human life does not start at conception when does it start? At birth?..Well even after birth Obama still doesn't think that young humans have the,"right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness," by agreeing that it was OK to leave a baby to die of male-nourishment!! And people want to adopt his health care plan...no thanks!!
Your life started, my life started, everyone's life started when the sperm entered the egg. No matter if you want to look at this legally, scientifically, or religiously, your BODY started to form (alas, your human life started to form) when the sperm fertilized the egg. I don't understand why people have such a hard time with the obvious.
This is coming from a man who was the only one in the Illinois legistlature, that voted against a bill that would have made it the law to save a baby/bring it back to good health if it survived an abortion. The was right after a woman gave a powerful testimony about how she recovered a baby from a trash can that was still alive after a failed saline abortion and rocked/held him for 45 min until he died.
Let us take the seemingly logical premise that life begins at conception because at some future instance there is a large probability that a human being will emerge.
Doesn't the same logic tell you that every living being is a corpse waiting to happen?
Is it then okay to jump ahead on this natural conclusion of a life and terminate lives of the living?
You would be doing nothing more than helping the course of nature.
His mother could have made a decision to have an abortion when she found out that she was knocked up. However it was not about her pay grade and she made the right decision.
so...all of you who are so in touch with your religion...if we pass a bill banning Partial Birth Abortion that also includes cutting away at Roe V. Wade and women in your "church" seek out illegal abortions and are sliced, diced and left for dead...do we convict the fake doctors or do we give them a one way ticket to the heaven?
Abortions will continue to happen...regardless of Roe V. Wade...and women as well as their babies will die.
Let's make murder legal--people will do it anyway, why not make it safer? There are plenty of safe ways to deal with an unwanted pregnancy. I would hope that a woman in my "CHURCH" would be able to come to her brothers and sisters in the "CHURCH" for support & help her figure out a safe way to have the baby, giving the baby the same freedom of life, & opportunity to LIVE, that she has had. Sure it is wrong to disobey the law, but we should forgive unconditionally, just as we have been forgiven.
all of these arguments are pointless, if a mother doesnt want her child she has 9 months to figure out how to kill it (less safely) such as drugs, alcohol, unlawful doctors, illicit RU486 etc get over it laws dont change peoples minds when its a matter of ruining their own lives with a child they arent ready for the only difference is maybe someone can prove it and still ruin their life in a court
if its not alive at conception,why does it not start to grow on its own??and just what is that big belly that starts to grow on a woman after conception?the one that eventually you can see moving around and from month to monthon sonagrams you see changeing??if its not alive why does the mother have to take extra vitamins,be carefull what she drinks or consumes,Because its a living growing consumeing person,if there was not conception there would not be life,right? that point on it grows,florishs
Oh, dear god. I read the title as "Above my Gay Pride"
On another note, McCain is straight to the point and honest. Obama tries to make himself look pensive and deep in thought by putting in fancy words, but then ultimately avoids the question because he doesn't want people to know his true opinion. That's not what I would want in my government. I want someone who's going to say what they feel, no matter what people may think of it. I may be a teen and a Canadian, but my opinion is still valid.
How is he going to answer that question if he is elected,just ignore it???,how will he answer any question he feels is above his pay grade,And since he is employed by the people of the USA,I thought we decided what was above his pay grade,I know my boss does and if I even tried to tell my boss well that above my pay grade,Im sure my pay grade would go to zero.
Everyone in the ANTI-CHOICE community would like to say that conception begins at the moment that a sperm fertilizes an egg. Well, there is a clear consensus in the medical community that this is UNKNOWABLE and there is no test to show whether or not this has happened.
All we DO know is that IMPLANTATION is the moment when pregnancy starts, and this is agreed upon in science, medicine and law.
Why are the McCains pretending to be so worried about campaign issues like abortion and a woman's choice with her own body but continually lobby against Mothers Against Drunk Driving who also protects the American public young and old from drunk driver deaths and crashes. Well abortions don't effect liquor sales in Arizona, so they can pretend to be concerned, Interesting-NOT.
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i hate that people want to find anything they can use negative on obama and that u dont understand the logic of what obama was saying ultimately do u know the disasters that wood occur if overturn R v WADE he was right in saying that we should work toward creating an eviroment where women wouldnt have to get abortions because that would solve problems instead of just creating a law to ban abortions all together thats not solving the abortion problem
That's My president, straight out honest
shardy083 2 months ago
Why are you concerned for those who haven't been born yet? We have people here and now who need help, quit adding to the problem you close minded parasites. Just let people be people.
IHelliotI 5 months ago
Yea cashmoney5490 doesn't have a degree but the person using has multiple. Laughable.
You know. People have to die. Baby's are people. There is a reason why human babies are some of the most vulnerable baby's among all species. They are meant to die. Survival of the FITTEST and technology is the only thing that is warping and confusing your mind that that principle isn't still around. It is. And when you save those baby's that are not the FITTEST. The they ruin the rest of our mediocre wo
cashmoney5490 5 months ago
I didn't vote for him but he was right. At the time he answered the question, he was still a junior senator. So it may very well be above his pay grade. If he says the same answer now, then he has some investigation to do on what pay grade is higher than his.
bloodangelusn 6 months ago
@bloodangelusn He was talking about GOD.
jamesdh76 4 months ago 3
@cashmoney5490 thats an ignorant statement, what people dont realize is there are programs out there that you can go to where they have parents who can't have children they even pay your medical bills as long as you give them your child also not including orphanages so its not hopeless just selfish
gacolon14 6 months ago
I read this quick and thought it said "Gay Parade" o_O
glitteraddict44 6 months ago
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ummm... why are you asking a president to decide what you want to believe about humanity? and the last statement.. "Amercians should know" is sad. Figure it out on your own, find people like you that believe the same way, and when there are enough of you as a group, the President will win your votes by having your idea as his own and then the "Americans" will know when "human life begins" ...(grow up)
theovercoat0715 6 months ago
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theovercoat0715 6 months ago
The same people who push sooooooo hard to stop abortions are the same ones who don't give a shit about the kid once it is born. If a baby is gonna be brought up in a horrible life then he shouldn't have to live it.
I hope that all the people who are against abortions end up having loved ones killed by a psychopath killer who would have been aborted If it wasnt for people being against it.
cashmoney5490 7 months ago
@cashmoney5490 - Besides knowing you'll never matriculate from an institution of learning above high school- I am also thankful that you will never be in a position to make decisions that affect others. Clearly- your moral compass is so warped, that I am surprised you can find your way home at night.
Those who are against abortion are for life, wherever that life is, throughout that life. To say they "stop caring" at some point is ignorant, at best. That person (not "it") has a right to life.
Alaska47Boy 5 months ago
o and as for the economy going down u cn put that on everybodys fav coke head g w for that shit storm obama jus walked into it hes doin the best he cn at wat he has to wrk with im n the army i almost didnt get paid cus of the fuk up that bush did now its damage control till the end of obamas term even the next president is gonna have probs with this thanks bush u fuk up
MegaFelix82 8 months ago
@MegaFelix82 Lol, looking at your grammar it really looks like your in the army. GI- Government Idiot.
friskbank 6 months ago
check it out charlesdjones1 jesus christ is not the creator he was a prophet to most and the son of the creator to many get ur facts right b4 u get all christian on us jesus is not god ,,,,,god is god and jesus is jesus
MegaFelix82 8 months ago
@MegaFelix82 Have you ever even READ the Bible? Or are you just spouting some crap that someone else who hadn't read the Bible told you?
thegooch17 8 months ago
"Their opinion on this question has nothing to with their character or their capabilities. Actions count. Beliefs are just that: Beliefs. The End. "
For all the "non-believers" out in the world today, there is a God who exist, a Creator of all the things we see and all the people who live and breathe, named Jesus Christ. For ever one who thinks they won't give an account one day for their actions, I'm sorry to inform you that you are wrong. The universe was created on principles of absolute.
charlesdjones1 8 months ago
Their opinion on this question has nothing to with their character or their capabilities. Actions count. Beliefs are just that: Beliefs. The End.
JessofAllTradesTV 8 months ago
At lest one of these politicians on the video gave a straight answer rather than speak bullshit.
1misanthropist 9 months ago
at 2 months humans look like seahorses and have tails...so beautiful
viperlegendkiller 10 months ago
Who's the prez now bitch. Not McCain. Cry all you want, hate all you want. You lost.
mrobertpatterson1 10 months ago
@mrobertpatterson1 True, when Obama took over - you, me and all of America lost , because statistics on our economy since he took over don't lie.
1misanthropist 9 months ago
@mrobertpatterson1 You're an idiot.
whatever890327897895 8 months ago
This question is too difficult and nuanced to be answered effectively in a single sentence. Kudos to Obama for giving a thoughtful answer, rather than simplifying the issue to a slogan or a talking point.
barroncountry 1 year ago
How in the flying fuck can you prolife MORONS expect a woman to carry a baby made from RAPE. If you got raped or your daughter got raped, how could you possibly expect to carry a baby made of rage terror and hate to full term? Then every time you see that baby you will remember being RAPED. You people are the sick ones not us
Maharg23 1 year ago
Obama is the worst joke ever played on this country!
truckindawg1 1 year ago
"Answering that question with any kind of specificity is above my pay grade." Translated from Politician to English, folks, that means "I don't give a shit."
silversoftCEO 1 year ago
Obama answered this question good but not eloquent, maybe because it's up to every person to either undertake an abortion or not, he doesn't get paid to answer peoples personal questions
daxxxx85 1 year ago
I got flagges as spam on this thread because of my opinion. What happened to freedom of speech?
Nt4Cox 1 year ago
All I have to say is that Liberalizm is a mental disorder.
ManUtdiszbest 1 year ago
When is a baby entitled to human rights? When it gets a social security number. Give it up, pro-lifers. Planned parenthood and abortion clinics aren't going anywhere. If you want babies falling all out your ass, more power to you. But don't attack other women that don't to be locked to some little rat because her pill didn't work that night.
jons44 1 year ago
@jons44 - sup dawg
you be hatin'
that shit ain't cool
chill a take pill
basically what i am saying is that was pretty insensitive to the other women who don't to be locked (and moreso to some little rat)
i think the hilarious thing is that planned parenthood did just go somewhere and that somewhere is outside of federal funding?
XFactorInfinity 11 months ago
How about "at what point should the state have the power to force a pregnant woman to remain pregnant against her will?"
carrotmaster123 1 year ago
in this same interview i recall obama calling pregnancy a disease and punishment. i want to find that clip anyone know where i can find it. also forget the name of the guy doing the interview.
meheekano 1 year ago
Go McCain!!!!! U might suck at every other issue but u sure rock at being pro life!!!!! And that's why I voted for u!!!!
mcurran6 1 year ago
Yeah, OK!!!
chrism3784 1 year ago
Yeah, OK!!!
chrism3784 1 year ago
You heard this answer America... and you still voted for him.
Buyer's remorse?
tuxguys 1 year ago
who gives a fuck about babys
kyleisreallycool 1 year ago
The issue maybe complex but why wouldn't you error on the side of life. I think people should be able to make there own choices and do almost anything they want as long as it doesn't affect someone else. I think that abortion takes the right that the child has at life and giving someone a right to choose that takes away from someone else's rights. Thats why I have a hard time listening to libertarians say its a freedom issue, although I consider myself a libertarian.
quintaar17 1 year ago
where da jobs is?
MrTrajan69 1 year ago
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@quintaar17
Its unethical to bring life into the world just for the sake of life alone, and its child abuse to force an unwanted child to be born to a life of despair. To choose not to give birth when there's little foundation for that child's well-being is a moral and caring act. We, as pro-choicers simply dont believe that an embryo or fetus has the same moral claim on us as born children and the women who bear them, or the same capacity to suffer and feel emotions.
Diannakw 1 year ago
@quintaar17: Actually, it IS a libertarian issue... the dilemma is that, at whatever moment on the continuum between conception and birth human individuality occurs, from that point on there is person whose rights have to be protected. As a non-Catholic, I don't have the luxury of an overriding religious authority... as a thinking person, I have to assume that life begins at the earliest possible point, until science gives us evidence to the contrary.
tuxguys 1 year ago
that is such a stupid question
ansk58 2 years ago
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@ansk58 And your an Idiot too.
Nt4Cox 1 year ago
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Obama is showing something called humility by recognizing the nature of this complex issue. He even points out that it is not the president's job to decide such issues, you could even construe this quote to mean he was deferring to a higher power (i.e. God, or Allah, or whoever.) I did not get why this statement was even an issue during the campaign. Perhaps I'm better off not wasting my time trying to understand conservatives.
Innuendo91 2 years ago
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Innuendo91 2 years ago
Obama is a douche bag
afink87 2 years ago
shouldn't abortion be a personal decision?
if we 'fight" for freedom so hard, why can't we enjoy it?
"land of the free and the home of the brave"
s0n0rita 2 years ago
While we're at it, let's make male masterbation illegel too! I bet some religious people would say that's a sin, but before you open your mouth do some research on what religious persecution has done throughout history. Who's right? Who's wrong? I don't like walnuts, almonds or pecans on my food... Should I now attack the food industry? The world would be a much better place if everyone would stop being so cynical. Put a Walmart in the middle east and bring our troops home!
RyanLoco702 2 years ago
Pres. Obama answeres all questions asked of him the same way. So, he wasn't dodging the question, he was merely choosing his words wisely and thinking about what he was going to say. He took an objective view... SO WHAT. I'm not an Obama supporter, I voted for McCain, but only because I knew Ron Paul wasn't going to win because America was afraid of him. To each his/her own. If you feel YOUR baby has human rights at conception; fine, but if you don't who's "right" is it to say one way or another
RyanLoco702 2 years ago
But if it's an Afgan or Iraqi baby Mcain and Obomba are both ok with killing it at any time.
xbpzqrz 2 years ago
hell yeah kill the little fuckers they will be taliban later.
nickizcool20 2 years ago
@nickizcool20 your an idiot.
Nt4Cox 1 year ago
@Nt4Cox no babies cost toomuch........toooooo much!
nickizcool20 1 year ago
@xbpzqrz lol! obomba bun biden
nickizcool20 1 year ago
Wow, that is so embarrassing.
ryanjurek 2 years ago
IF there is a God wouldn't it be above his pay grade?
nilekinnick24 2 years ago
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STRIKEOVERTONE 2 years ago
...he does not even have Yankee White clearence.
FxScalper 2 years ago
There is something real fishy about the commander in chief i wish we had someone who Served in the military.
PFCrimax 2 years ago
This was dodging the question big time.
BenjaminWirtz 2 years ago
God sure is guilty of a lot of abortions
KyazuTheInsane 2 years ago
OK, if it is above his pay grade is he saying that it's God's decision cause I would think He is the highest paid in the universe. Which gives Him the right to answer and His answer is in the Bible. If we are made up of many cells does that not link the beginning of our existence to conception. That also makes Him the only one that has the right to give and take life. He gives it at CONCEPTION. He takes it when He thinks we are ready.
moniquemac72 2 years ago
Fuck this poster. and students for life
sgtjauch 2 years ago
a baby gets human rights as soon as it is Human which happens when it's BORN, not when it is conceived. There's a difference.
7Lycosa7 2 years ago
How is a baby not human before it is born?
perfacetus 2 years ago
I bet you are sure glad your mom allowed you to get those human right you are talking about. Good thing for you bad for us, that she thought better to give this child life rather than it will inconvience me so kill it.
olie1971 2 years ago
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I bet you are sure glad your mom allowed you to get those human right you are talking about. Good thing for you bad for us, that she thought better to give this child life rather than it will inconvience me so kill it.
olie1971 2 years ago
Abortion ROCKS! Fuck babies and stupid fucking conservatives! Probably you for watching this! Sorry stupid shits!
ab0rtion 2 years ago
To bad your mom didn't believe in abortion and use it in sin. I feel the world would be a better place with out you.
olie1971 2 years ago
Do you really want Obama in charge of your healthcare? Making decisions for you?
bpentium 2 years ago
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action."
-George Washington-
willisbw3 2 years ago
We shouldn't be arguing against each other, we should be arguing about how both sides steal from the American people and aren't charged in the court of law. We should be standing up against the government, together, and telling them enough is enough. Why do we sit back and let them control us and continue to make us pay higher and higher taxes and spending doesn't go down and our debt to china continues to increase?
willisbw3 2 years ago
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Your all IDIOTS.
Beastfromtheeast850 2 years ago
So Mccain is backtracking. At the moment of conception. So hes for abortion then? ...that wasn't a perfect answer, sry right wingers.
NosoCOMINSOON 2 years ago
No if he was for abortion it would be at the moment of CONTRAception...
xwii007x 2 years ago
Conception is when they baby is conceived, not delivered. How do you get that McCain is for abortion out of that? What is a perfect answer anyways? The question was simple, and yet both answers were so different. I didn't like either candidate and still don't. If you voted for the lesser of two evils, you still got evil. Unfortunately we landed the greater of two evils. Sorry America!!
schittywok 2 years ago
Now that's he's the president of the United States, there is NOTHING above his paygrade, soo...I would love an answer now that he's head of the U.S.
Cowzilla15 2 years ago
LOL .... we better not hold our breath. Obama is so full of shit.
TripperLV 2 years ago
And there is plenty above his pay grade...as in the people that manipulate his strings and make him dance around...
schittywok 2 years ago
True!
TripperLV 2 years ago
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Scott Roeder is my HERO for killing Dr. Tiller the "Baby Killer"!
If you had to kill someone who was trying to kill your child the "law" would say you were justified.
But they enact "law" to protect "doctors" like Tiller who murdered over 60,000 babies.
As long as the "law" continues to protect murderers like Tiller then people need to break the law and commit murder to stop this genocide.
While Tiller burns in HELL, watch this video, the TRUTH on Abortion: watch?v=zDtUqImGjeg
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webxsuccess 2 years ago
Neither of them were asked when LIFE begins for a baby, but when that baby gets HUMAN RIGHTS. Those are two different things.
For example, when did African Americans get human rights? Native Americans? Women?
babygraceblue 2 years ago
So what is your point? We should kill children because African Americans, Native Americans, and women had fewer in the past. Life begins at inception, therefore, a baby has human rights.
TripperLV 2 years ago
I said nothing about killing children; how dare you? I was simply saying the question was not of life but of rights. I was illustrating that point by stating that many people in the past and even now in our world are born without human rights.
I was also not agreeing nor disagreeing with the President, or you for that matter. Stop jumping down people's throats with your urge to argue.
babygraceblue 2 years ago
Sorry, but that is how your statement comes across. I didn't understand your point and it is still not entirely clear. It sounded like you are making an argument for abortion, based on past human rights issues. I don't have any need to argue, but that is how your statement came across. Don't get mad at me, just clarify your statement. Thanks
TripperLV 2 years ago
Im pretty sure you stand alone. babygraceblue made it very clear
killingedge123123 2 years ago
I understand the difference in the question. The point I was driving at is "does that matter" to him. To some it would not matter based on the belief that once inception begins, and the fetus becomes life, then the fetus has rights and the role of government is to protect those rights. Others may believe "no it doesn't have any rights" and it is "Ok" to kill the fetus. Scientifically, life begins at inception and I would suggest, so do human rights.
TripperLV 2 years ago
As for the comment, you're probably correct and I may have read to far into his statement, I apologize to him. I realize it is a sensitive topic and I should have chosen better worlds. I don't like it when people attack, etc. either, so I stand corrected.
TripperLV 2 years ago
meh mistakes happen
killingedge123123 2 years ago
Life begins at birth. It's just that simple, people.
larsnord 2 years ago
Socially, you could be correct. Scientifically, you are wrong.
Keepseeker 2 years ago
Life begins at inception. The cells begin to divide and grow, becoming a living organism.
TripperLV 2 years ago
And you know what there's more times than not that I've thought to myself just how much I've hated this world and sincerely wished I had not been brought in it. But you know what I'm not left with much of choice. So instead I take the 'road less traveled' in hopes i can educate people to be warm and caring but intelligent as well.... its been nigh impossible so far. People as a whole are still ignorant of a great many things. In truth, i fear for what will become of us.
safyreking 2 years ago
im not narrow minded i have chosen a side and i truly hope that life is kinder to you than it has been
tvicena 2 years ago
Its extremely lonely, and miserable, because instead acting blindly on beliefs I make decisions based on facts. The truth behind a question or a scenario can not be based on beliefs because then there would be multiple truths, but there can only be one truth, so beliefs must be omitted. Use the brain that you got and learn theres more than one side to every issue and its just as simple as it might seem at first.
safyreking 2 years ago
@ Tvicena - Look I'm sorry your wife can't have children. But that doesnt change my scenario any one bit. Abortion is not an easy topic. And just as they can't decide whether or not they live, they can't decide for themselves who they're born to or to what kind of life. So stop looking at every damn thing with such a narrowminded point of view. Its equally as horrible to bring about a life into the world that will be wrought with needless pain and suffering.
safyreking 2 years ago
Could you in good conscience knowing full well the kind of sh***y life your child is going to have and the fact its a result of your own mistake because of a life you were forced into in order to survive still make that decision and be happy with yourself? Take the word abortion out of the equation, would you lead a friend or family member down a path that you knew for certain was laid with pain and hardship when there was nothing to come of it?
safyreking 2 years ago
what if your mother wasn't willing to sacrifice ,suffer pain and spend time nurturing and caring fo you i guess that would of been below her pay grade. i can't stand pathetic self absorbed self centered lowlifes my wife is unable to have children. and you shits think its ok to throw a life away you make me want to vomit!
tvicena 2 years ago
Look, the man is being political, he knows full well that making an official statement to such a controversial topic would clearly state which 'side' he's on when he is infact try to work for everyone as a whole. The subject of abortion isn't an easy one. In a country such as this where a baby has the opportunity to be something, what about in other certain asian cultures where the illegitimate children born of prostitution bares girls that are 99.9% certain to have life again of prostitution?
safyreking 2 years ago
Quick! Someone start paying him a lot of money so that he can have an opinion! His opinions on everything have gone to the highest bidder, and this just proves it.
shtubahn 2 years ago
Obama sucks pro-life all the way look for me at march for life DC 09 (small kid in a dark blue hollister hoodie with las vegas hat)
TheGuardianOfAura 3 years ago
"Above my pay grade". Notice how he so eloquently avoided the question regarding abortion. Shame on anyone who voted for this man. 96 % voted for him. You can't trust them folks. They are dishonest.
TheLizardKing1967 3 years ago
for once obama tells the truth. this question is above his paygrade...who are we to decide who lives and who dies. if a living, growing fetus doesnt have rights than why should we think we have any more rights. why do we think we can make these "mistakes" and then just erase them like on a math test as if it never meant anything. its time people learn from their mistakes and grow as a person.
theedge22655 3 years ago
Um, actually, that's not all he cares about is money. Seeing as how he isn't John McCain who left his (1st) disabled wife who waited for him while he was a POW then left her for a trust fund baby (which is Cindy incase you didn't know) and now owns 10 houses, 7 cars, and a private jet.
uhohrachelll 3 years ago
Actually, Obama graduated first at Harvard Law School, so he is very intelligent.
uhohrachelll 3 years ago
If he's so intelligent, then why couldn't he answer a simple question? I'll tell you why - because he thinks it's OK to kill babies. Who could possibly think partial birth abortion is humane? It's a fully developed infant. Shame.
shtubahn 2 years ago
shut da fuk up bitch
use a condom u whore
NorthMemphis745 2 years ago
When Obama said that it "is above his pay grade" he didn't mean it literally. He meant it was above his knowledge.
So how about this pro-lifers? Stop being such parrots and actually use your brain for once.
BARACK OBAMA '08
uhohrachelll 3 years ago
Barack hussein obama 08
Bin Laden in 09
BapticostalFreak 3 years ago
Ye Man! I've been calling Him:
Obama-Bin-Ladden
He is an Anti-American Muslem. He said he would pledge allegence to the flag Because He said those words dont reflect his personal Convictions. He sat Under a pastor For years who is anti-American and Obama and his Wife are as well. The Funny thing is some ignorant Heathen Elected for themselves a Man who Hates them. Why? He promised a bigger tax rebate than McCain. They Sold thier Soul for a few hundred more.
preachhellsfire 3 years ago
It's actually spelled Muslim.
So because Obama attended church every sunday that makes him a Muslim and because McCain never attended that makes him a Christian?
Actually, most people voted for Obama because they don't want another 4 years similar to the last 8 we have experienced.
uhohrachelll 3 years ago
how come most people on here under the age of 25 seem like they dont have but two brain cells to rub together? and those that have two, one of them is waving goodbye to the other one . maybe that is why they are like parrots mimicking what they have heard from others with the same affliction
tvicena 2 years ago
Oh, and there's those of us who hate being on this earth. As self centered or 'cold' as I maybe I see everything from every angle and everyone's point of view. You know what's like being logical in an unlogical world that's operated soley on 'beliefs'? You're mocked and ridiculed. I get slams from people like you every F'ing day, while i watch yourselves run this planet into the ground tearing each other to pieces over 'beliefs'.
safyreking 2 years ago
if you hate being here why don't you try to find some good in it ....go outside and spend sometime there.btw pain and hardship are good for character building if you look at it in those terms i'm sure it will change your outlook on things...well i hope it does anyway...
tvicena 2 years ago
Again, looking at things from both sides not all pain and suffering is necessary nor does it build and sometimes tend to warp people and twist them into bitter hollow people with a chip on their shoulder. Granted some pain is necessary for growth and development, and does in fact build 'character' but you can not adopt such an extreme view that pain is always a good thing. Because then what would be the point of pain to begin with?
safyreking 2 years ago
So....a basic political question is above our president elects knowledge?
That's sad.
Keepseeker 3 years ago
Its above his knowledge? Its really f'ing simple people. The president understand that in order to achieve anything he's going to have to have the support of everyone as a whole. And even if he had an idea or belief in regards to the topic in question his beliefs have no place because its his job to speak on behalf of the people of the nation and since the nation doesn't have one solid agreement on the aforementioned subject he is merely reflecting that. Is that so hard to understand? Seriously.
safyreking 2 years ago
So, basically what you are saying is since the nation can't come to a conclusion about abortion, Obama has no right to since it's his job to speak on behalf of the people of the nation?
I could deal with that. It can stay above his pay grade as far as I'm concerned. xD
Keepseeker 2 years ago
All answers are above his pay grade without a teleprompter. He doesn't even know what he is saying, he reads it. Hillary Clinton said it herself, "thats not change you can believe in,thats change you can zerox" referring to the fact that nothing he says comes from his own mind. He is a puppet to his sponsor's socialist agendas. We are one step away from being every country that ever loathed us and hated us for being free.
G0dspelronin 2 years ago
Being a man means knowing what you believe about lifes fundamental issues, such as when life begins, and showing the courage to state and stand up for those beliefs. And being a man is a non-paying position.
As Commander-in-Chief, he will be required to know when certain lives may have to end. If answering the first question is above his pay grade, then so is the second.
Stepper11 3 years ago
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"Number one," said Obama, explaining his reluctance to protect born infants, "whenever we define a pre-viable fetus as a person that is protected by the Equal Protection Clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a - a child, a 9-month old -- child that was delivered to term.
Obama Is the Most Pro-Abortion Candidate Ever
By Terence P. Jeffrey
HOPE!?
teton99 3 years ago
Scary if this man gets elected.The number one issue of this election and this century for that matter and he doesn't have an answer.
acezeler 3 years ago
Why doesn't NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC or Fox ever put this on TV??? If McCain answered a question like like this...that's all we'd hear about on every channel. Wake up America!!
biggtone75 3 years ago 2
Above his pay grade? It wasn't above his pay grade to determine to advocate infanticide in his home state. What a coward. If anyone wants to really understand where Obama is coming from, read the Focus on the Family October newsletter; great exposition of the issues facing America, and how Obama is so out of touch with his intended constituency.
veritas8808 3 years ago 2
How would you answer this question if you were running for President as a democrat? It's politically, in his position, an unanswerable question.
PortableCurtis 3 years ago
Due to the evil nature of human beings it is a good idea to make laws that prohibit specific choices from being an option.
Theophilos77 3 years ago
Obama single handily defeated the Born Alive Infant Protection Act in Illinois, requiring hospitals to care for infants who survived an abortion- after a hospital left babies born alive to just die. Obama CLAIMED he would have voted for the bill had it contained a one sentence "neutrality clause" as the federal bill. Later, Obama voted against the amended bill that was virtually identical to the federal law. BUT he STILL insists that he would have voted for if he'd had the chance.
pinkosupasta 3 years ago 2
what in the HELL!?!?!?! He can't say when life begins because of his PAY GRADE!?!? And no one is questioning this answer? This is NUTS!
He fails time and time again with answering questions effectively, efficiently, and with legitimacy.
This all is a job interview for President of the United States... he doesn't have the experience. PERIOD. He's a rookie and we don't have the luxury of giving him on the job training!
pinkosupasta 3 years ago
nobody knows the answer to this. it's not in the bible, so how can you answer this? everyone has a different opinion on it
zappaa89 3 years ago
yeah...i don't think you have human rights so that does mean i can kill you? that is my opinion.
CIDaily 3 years ago 2
actually it is in the Bible....several times
jakedog2592 3 years ago
oh, it's above his pay grade now.. last I heard, he thought it was at toddler.
sephy22 3 years ago
Thank you for posting this! If human life does not start at conception when does it start? At birth?..Well even after birth Obama still doesn't think that young humans have the,"right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness," by agreeing that it was OK to leave a baby to die of male-nourishment!! And people want to adopt his health care plan...no thanks!!
JohnLeavitt 3 years ago 2
Your life started, my life started, everyone's life started when the sperm entered the egg. No matter if you want to look at this legally, scientifically, or religiously, your BODY started to form (alas, your human life started to form) when the sperm fertilized the egg. I don't understand why people have such a hard time with the obvious.
pinkosupasta 3 years ago 4
The fruits of what we do show who we really are.
This is coming from a man who was the only one in the Illinois legistlature, that voted against a bill that would have made it the law to save a baby/bring it back to good health if it survived an abortion. The was right after a woman gave a powerful testimony about how she recovered a baby from a trash can that was still alive after a failed saline abortion and rocked/held him for 45 min until he died.
chozengurl 3 years ago
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He was the ONLY ONE who voted against a bill to prevent this.
His excuse? It was one step closer to taking away a woman's right to choose.
Look it up. The facts speak for how he truly believes.
The media twists stuff so much.
He is so suspicious and most often can't give a definite view on what he believes.
This is a man that voted "present" 130 times in the senate.
So what does he truly believe then if he can't make his mind up? Again, his actions speak for himself.
chozengurl 3 years ago
Let us take the seemingly logical premise that life begins at conception because at some future instance there is a large probability that a human being will emerge.
Doesn't the same logic tell you that every living being is a corpse waiting to happen?
Is it then okay to jump ahead on this natural conclusion of a life and terminate lives of the living?
You would be doing nothing more than helping the course of nature.
mikedhr 3 years ago
Being President is Above his pay grade---
Can I answer "Present" ???
lookity 3 years ago
His mother could have made a decision to have an abortion when she found out that she was knocked up. However it was not about her pay grade and she made the right decision.
nowonder07 3 years ago
maybe lol
JohnLeavitt 3 years ago
so...all of you who are so in touch with your religion...if we pass a bill banning Partial Birth Abortion that also includes cutting away at Roe V. Wade and women in your "church" seek out illegal abortions and are sliced, diced and left for dead...do we convict the fake doctors or do we give them a one way ticket to the heaven?
Abortions will continue to happen...regardless of Roe V. Wade...and women as well as their babies will die.
ladyjadj 3 years ago
Let's make murder legal--people will do it anyway, why not make it safer? There are plenty of safe ways to deal with an unwanted pregnancy. I would hope that a woman in my "CHURCH" would be able to come to her brothers and sisters in the "CHURCH" for support & help her figure out a safe way to have the baby, giving the baby the same freedom of life, & opportunity to LIVE, that she has had. Sure it is wrong to disobey the law, but we should forgive unconditionally, just as we have been forgiven.
LMarie3333 3 years ago
all of these arguments are pointless, if a mother doesnt want her child she has 9 months to figure out how to kill it (less safely) such as drugs, alcohol, unlawful doctors, illicit RU486 etc get over it laws dont change peoples minds when its a matter of ruining their own lives with a child they arent ready for the only difference is maybe someone can prove it and still ruin their life in a court
jordantafaro 3 years ago
if its not alive at conception,why does it not start to grow on its own??and just what is that big belly that starts to grow on a woman after conception?the one that eventually you can see moving around and from month to monthon sonagrams you see changeing??if its not alive why does the mother have to take extra vitamins,be carefull what she drinks or consumes,Because its a living growing consumeing person,if there was not conception there would not be life,right? that point on it grows,florishs
smalpecker 3 years ago
Oh, dear god. I read the title as "Above my Gay Pride"
On another note, McCain is straight to the point and honest. Obama tries to make himself look pensive and deep in thought by putting in fancy words, but then ultimately avoids the question because he doesn't want people to know his true opinion. That's not what I would want in my government. I want someone who's going to say what they feel, no matter what people may think of it. I may be a teen and a Canadian, but my opinion is still valid.
Runescaper1357 3 years ago
i'm not black but i say this to u:he only shows he's human by not answering that question!only God knows when the life of a fetus has a soul inside.
korben0809 3 years ago
How is he going to answer that question if he is elected,just ignore it???,how will he answer any question he feels is above his pay grade,And since he is employed by the people of the USA,I thought we decided what was above his pay grade,I know my boss does and if I even tried to tell my boss well that above my pay grade,Im sure my pay grade would go to zero.
smalpecker 3 years ago
Everyone in the ANTI-CHOICE community would like to say that conception begins at the moment that a sperm fertilizes an egg. Well, there is a clear consensus in the medical community that this is UNKNOWABLE and there is no test to show whether or not this has happened.
All we DO know is that IMPLANTATION is the moment when pregnancy starts, and this is agreed upon in science, medicine and law.
aviva08 3 years ago
Just because you don't know whether conception has occurred yet does not mean it hasn't. Things can be true without being known.
Hans293 3 years ago
"there is no test to show whether or not this has happened."
We can't test whether stem cell research will work.
"All we DO know is that IMPLANTATION is the moment when pregnancy starts, and this is agreed upon in science, medicine and law."
Fertilisation (also known as conception, fecundation and syngamy), is the fusion of gametes to produce a new organism of the same species.
Organism = life.
WaffleBakingStar 3 years ago
By definition "conception" is the point were the sperm fertilizes the egg. Otherwise the word is meaningless. Do like me and look it up.
w w w (dot) merriam-webster (dot) com /dictionary/conception
abcsci 3 years ago
Why is it OK for mother's to kill their babies? Seems like they're getting away with murder.
sneha1965 3 years ago 2
Why are the McCains pretending to be so worried about campaign issues like abortion and a woman's choice with her own body but continually lobby against Mothers Against Drunk Driving who also protects the American public young and old from drunk driver deaths and crashes. Well abortions don't effect liquor sales in Arizona, so they can pretend to be concerned, Interesting-NOT.
CindyForDrunks 3 years ago
I really don't understand what in the world abortion has to do with drunk driving.
Both are bad. Both kill people. Let's put an end to both.
Amen? AMEN.
novacatherine 3 years ago
making a law wont end abortions idiot.
derick38115 3 years ago
The abortion rate was much lower before the Supreme Court tossed aside the laws that the states had passed strictly limiting abortions.
Hans293 3 years ago
only GOD can decide when life begins not man
derick38115 3 years ago
No child is concieved that it is not the will of God!
steam0001 3 years ago
Uhm God gave man the ability to figure that out through science... and the answer is conception! Yay!
novacatherine 3 years ago 2
If it's not a child that is in the womb, then the woman is not pregnant!!!
rfromin 3 years ago
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i hate that people want to find anything they can use negative on obama and that u dont understand the logic of what obama was saying ultimately do u know the disasters that wood occur if overturn R v WADE he was right in saying that we should work toward creating an eviroment where women wouldnt have to get abortions because that would solve problems instead of just creating a law to ban abortions all together thats not solving the abortion problem
derick38115 3 years ago
What the heck did you just say? Can you please use correct grammar and at least one form of punctuation?
Thanks.
novacatherine 3 years ago