I was on different AD's for 11 years and I got more depressed and had alot of sideffects, then I weaned off and had to get threw hell for 3 years with a horrible withdrawal..I still dont feel like the old me 4 years off
i was on ZOLOFT before and i almost killed my damn self. It was crazy. I took myself off of them without doctors permission(against what i was supposed to do) and i fell like a million buck a few weeks later.. ZOLOFT was the cause of all the shit i went thru.. DONT TAKE ANY SSRI or MOAI.. NONE>>>>
believe me those drugs are fraud. but the worst thing is you don't even have any alternative. I hate bastards who made marijuana illegal i hate them so much...
Psychiatrists know shit about antidepressants... there is no poor or great shrinks, they're all bad... what do you know about ads? i know that paxil and diazepam almost killed me...
what have ads to do with this subject?The only professinals to know more would be pharmacologists.ALL shrinks are bad?How would you judge a good one if they existed?
Actually I think I know more about the drugs than 80% of MDs who prescribe them... it is not all shrinks... by the way Dr. Ann Blake Tracy knows more about these drugs than 90% of the shrinks anywhere.
gross exaggeration which throws out the bathwater with the baby.The studies of their effectiveness in many mental illnesses are out their for you to read.This is overgeneralising in the extreme.How have you arrived at this conclusion?No anecdotes please,hard science only.
billysue2, please re-educate yourself. All of the "positive" studies were reported and published but none of the "negative" studies. See the website uniteforlife dot org, if you want me to show you the detailed NEJM analysis let me know.
I cannot force you to read the studies but they are ALL on my website. I don't think even the drug researchers have made the claims you just did. This is not gross exaggeration, and you are right about one thing, people are THROWING babies because of drugs.
im fully aware there are conflicting studies but psychiatric drugs appropriately and correctly managed help more people than they harm.If very few people were helped by drugs then what hyprada says would be true but thats not so.How about some of the terrible suicides ascribed to drugs arising from the illness itself.Suicidal ideation is quite common in severe types of mental illness.
The drugs double the risk of suicide according to the FDA. The only reason we have positive studies is because the researchers design the studies to favor the outcome they are looking for. It took the drug companies 5-6 studies per SSRI before they could come up with 2 positives. All that the FDA needs to approve a drug is 2 positives. For the SSNRIs it took 12-15 before they could find 2 positives.
If you want to believe fraud, go ahead and believe it. Take the drugs all you want, but please first go and lock yourself in a room so you will not put the rest of us at risk for living on the same planet. Not sure why it is ok with you that we have drugs legal and being pushed which cause suicide AND homicide STILLBIRTH etc. Do you have a conscience?
Im on ssri and others for majority of 18 years and never experienced any violent impulses just mild short lived side effects.SSRI for example definitely cause suicide and murder?I suppose you or some other source can prove both contentions.Why would the natural course of the illness not be causing them?I do agree there is far too much over rescription for mild deression though.
Yes there is ample proof that is why the FDA added the black box warning and why the UK banned them for teens. Also on my website there is a whole section on suicide and violence. The drugs were developed due to the fact that they discovered that impairing serotonin metabolism in rodents caused them to become extremely violent, they considered this a good thing... because they were not lying around depressed. Please don't take your own life for granted. drugawareness dot org withdraw carefully
Anti-depressants shuold not be taken under ANY circumstances. The only "good" these poisons produce is the billions in profits for Pfizer, Merck, Ely Lily et al.
Anti depressents ARE HIGHLY DANGEROUS!!! I became Suicidal while trying to withdraw! I've NEVER been suicidal in my life and then along came cymbalta. I was WORSE then when I started taking cymbalta. It is HELL!!!
then you had a poor shrink,he should have discussed common side effects with you,raised the level slowly and reduced it slowly along with a close observation.Takes many weeks to receive effects and you may get worse before better.
Nisaje should have been taken off this drug if side effects are so unbearable.There are other alternatives.How does stating recommended protocol for management make me a jerk?Lets hear your reasoned viewpoint along with needed proof.
are you saying there are no antidepressant studies which reduce symptoms better than placebo for any mental illness?If I go to PUBMED now I wont find any?Any drug takes a certain time to take effect depending on its half life length.Many antidepressants take weeks to reduce symptoms while ssri for BDD may take months.Incidentally ive had BDD for 18 years to the point of multiple hospital admissions for suicide attempts and self harm and drugs have only mildly improved my function .
OK excuse me the half life is not 3 weeks, it is a few hours.
You will find plenty of misreported studies as well as those that were manipulated and had missing data before they were reported including that patients were given benzos to counter mania along with the antidepressants.
The drugs you are on are doing you more harm and causing you to have multiple relapses and worsened symptoms.
You're both correct. The drugs have an immediate effect (hence the need for close observation), but it takes a while to reach a new level of homeostasis. Sometimes the recommendation to increase a dose is just to compensate for tachyphylaxis (tolerance).
The FDA requires proof of efficacy before approving a new drug, so there is proof. Whether it is legitimate or not is another question. The FDA is just one more corrupt federal organization.
Well actually what the FDA is looking at is not efficacy for the intended marketing purpose but whether or not the drug DOES SOMETHING AT ALL. If compared to a placebo it is hard to say that the drug does nothing but in NUMEROUS studies, the drugs actually made patients WORSE than placebo. Antibiotics clearly kill bacteria. Antidepressants clearly make people aggressive, violent, suicidal, etc. There is no evidence of lessened depression, in fact depression is a main effect of the drugs.
these drugs are scary!!!
Pent5HT 6 months ago
does that sound completely opposite that an antidepressant would CAUSE suicide? Sounds like it's not an anti-depressant.
danny9313 1 year ago
I was on different AD's for 11 years and I got more depressed and had alot of sideffects, then I weaned off and had to get threw hell for 3 years with a horrible withdrawal..I still dont feel like the old me 4 years off
ripe73 2 years ago
trying missing a dose of zoloft and going to sleep, its absolute hell
ilyskyline 2 years ago
i was on ZOLOFT before and i almost killed my damn self. It was crazy. I took myself off of them without doctors permission(against what i was supposed to do) and i fell like a million buck a few weeks later.. ZOLOFT was the cause of all the shit i went thru.. DONT TAKE ANY SSRI or MOAI.. NONE>>>>
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WickedG5150 2 years ago
believe me those drugs are fraud. but the worst thing is you don't even have any alternative. I hate bastards who made marijuana illegal i hate them so much...
LifeIsLife1984 3 years ago
These cases are where SSRI's are being prescribed for people who do not need them or are sociopathical.
rozagain 3 years ago
thas disgusting i cnt belive tha
AsianBarbie29 3 years ago
dont take it if your suicidal
my dr subscribed it for mild depression
its not going to get rid of major depression or suicidal thoughts man
unseenbadass 3 years ago
Psychiatrists know shit about antidepressants... there is no poor or great shrinks, they're all bad... what do you know about ads? i know that paxil and diazepam almost killed me...
paulinho4ever 3 years ago 2
what have ads to do with this subject?The only professinals to know more would be pharmacologists.ALL shrinks are bad?How would you judge a good one if they existed?
billysue2 3 years ago
ads = antidepressants
A good psychiatrist would be one with a conscience who cares about patients and tries not to harm them
amyphilo 3 years ago
Actually I think I know more about the drugs than 80% of MDs who prescribe them... it is not all shrinks... by the way Dr. Ann Blake Tracy knows more about these drugs than 90% of the shrinks anywhere.
amyphilo 3 years ago
please check out my video's. My youtube name is shellpooge. I'm writing a book about paxil withdrawal.
shellpooge 3 years ago
Drug-based medical science is FRAUD.
Psychiatry is a science of murder with impunity.
Anti-depressants should not be taken for ANY reason.
The only "good" these poisons do is to generate billions in profits for Merck, Pfizer, Ely Lily et al.
hrprada 3 years ago
gross exaggeration which throws out the bathwater with the baby.The studies of their effectiveness in many mental illnesses are out their for you to read.This is overgeneralising in the extreme.How have you arrived at this conclusion?No anecdotes please,hard science only.
billysue2 3 years ago
billysue2, please re-educate yourself. All of the "positive" studies were reported and published but none of the "negative" studies. See the website uniteforlife dot org, if you want me to show you the detailed NEJM analysis let me know.
I cannot force you to read the studies but they are ALL on my website. I don't think even the drug researchers have made the claims you just did. This is not gross exaggeration, and you are right about one thing, people are THROWING babies because of drugs.
amyphilo 3 years ago
im fully aware there are conflicting studies but psychiatric drugs appropriately and correctly managed help more people than they harm.If very few people were helped by drugs then what hyprada says would be true but thats not so.How about some of the terrible suicides ascribed to drugs arising from the illness itself.Suicidal ideation is quite common in severe types of mental illness.
billysue2 3 years ago
The drugs double the risk of suicide according to the FDA. The only reason we have positive studies is because the researchers design the studies to favor the outcome they are looking for. It took the drug companies 5-6 studies per SSRI before they could come up with 2 positives. All that the FDA needs to approve a drug is 2 positives. For the SSNRIs it took 12-15 before they could find 2 positives.
amyphilo 3 years ago
If you want to believe fraud, go ahead and believe it. Take the drugs all you want, but please first go and lock yourself in a room so you will not put the rest of us at risk for living on the same planet. Not sure why it is ok with you that we have drugs legal and being pushed which cause suicide AND homicide STILLBIRTH etc. Do you have a conscience?
amyphilo 3 years ago
Im on ssri and others for majority of 18 years and never experienced any violent impulses just mild short lived side effects.SSRI for example definitely cause suicide and murder?I suppose you or some other source can prove both contentions.Why would the natural course of the illness not be causing them?I do agree there is far too much over rescription for mild deression though.
billysue2 3 years ago
man, ssri dont last forever, take care!
paulinho4ever 3 years ago
Yes there is ample proof that is why the FDA added the black box warning and why the UK banned them for teens. Also on my website there is a whole section on suicide and violence. The drugs were developed due to the fact that they discovered that impairing serotonin metabolism in rodents caused them to become extremely violent, they considered this a good thing... because they were not lying around depressed. Please don't take your own life for granted. drugawareness dot org withdraw carefully
amyphilo 3 years ago
Drug-based medical science is FRAUD.
Psychiatry is a science of murder with impunity.
Anti-depressants shuold not be taken under ANY circumstances. The only "good" these poisons produce is the billions in profits for Pfizer, Merck, Ely Lily et al.
hrprada 3 years ago 4
Anti depressents ARE HIGHLY DANGEROUS!!! I became Suicidal while trying to withdraw! I've NEVER been suicidal in my life and then along came cymbalta. I was WORSE then when I started taking cymbalta. It is HELL!!!
nisaje 3 years ago 5
then you had a poor shrink,he should have discussed common side effects with you,raised the level slowly and reduced it slowly along with a close observation.Takes many weeks to receive effects and you may get worse before better.
billysue2 3 years ago
lol did you learn this on "antidepressants for dummies?" jerk
paulinho4ever 3 years ago
Nisaje should have been taken off this drug if side effects are so unbearable.There are other alternatives.How does stating recommended protocol for management make me a jerk?Lets hear your reasoned viewpoint along with needed proof.
billysue2 3 years ago
Your attitude is extremely dismissive of both facts and of the victims whose lives were put in danger or lost. That is why they called you that.
amyphilo 3 years ago
Not true, drugs take effect as soon as you swallow them. They have never been proven effective.
amyphilo 3 years ago
are you saying there are no antidepressant studies which reduce symptoms better than placebo for any mental illness?If I go to PUBMED now I wont find any?Any drug takes a certain time to take effect depending on its half life length.Many antidepressants take weeks to reduce symptoms while ssri for BDD may take months.Incidentally ive had BDD for 18 years to the point of multiple hospital admissions for suicide attempts and self harm and drugs have only mildly improved my function .
billysue2 3 years ago
OK excuse me the half life is not 3 weeks, it is a few hours.
You will find plenty of misreported studies as well as those that were manipulated and had missing data before they were reported including that patients were given benzos to counter mania along with the antidepressants.
The drugs you are on are doing you more harm and causing you to have multiple relapses and worsened symptoms.
amyphilo 3 years ago
Any improvement you have is extremely fortunate if you have been on drugs for such a long time.
There are many safe and effective treatments, you might try megadoses of vitamins... omega 3, b vitamins, C vitamins etc.
amyphilo 3 years ago
go to doctoryourself dot com & look up orthomolecular medicine or go to uniteforlife dot org
amyphilo 3 years ago
You're both correct. The drugs have an immediate effect (hence the need for close observation), but it takes a while to reach a new level of homeostasis. Sometimes the recommendation to increase a dose is just to compensate for tachyphylaxis (tolerance).
The FDA requires proof of efficacy before approving a new drug, so there is proof. Whether it is legitimate or not is another question. The FDA is just one more corrupt federal organization.
bizarre416 3 years ago
Well actually what the FDA is looking at is not efficacy for the intended marketing purpose but whether or not the drug DOES SOMETHING AT ALL. If compared to a placebo it is hard to say that the drug does nothing but in NUMEROUS studies, the drugs actually made patients WORSE than placebo. Antibiotics clearly kill bacteria. Antidepressants clearly make people aggressive, violent, suicidal, etc. There is no evidence of lessened depression, in fact depression is a main effect of the drugs.
amyphilo 3 years ago
not all the shrink's fault, don't forget the drug... sounds like you think the drugs can't harm w/o an incompetent doctor? That is so "logical"
amyphilo 3 years ago