if you think that forza is looking like shit, then go and see the video on le mans, between theese games, and then you see how fake, and all to shiny GT5 is...
in a game like theese you also wants good sounds, but that thing you can only get in Forza 2,3,4.... :) even Forza 2 sounds much better than GT5! :)
@theudss You're blaming GT5 to shine too much? Just look at your own game, but for safety, please wear sunglasses. And btw, I don't want good sounds, I want you to get valid arguments.
Forza 3 Im sorry, you could be a amazing game, but your graphics are inferior to GT5, when comparing to gt5 it appears that you are comparing a cartoon vs a photorealistic...GT5 have won this one with better graphics, car handling, number of cars, events...
you think Director of forza would brave to test race in Nurburgring HAH NEVER !!
cuz Kazunouri is the brave director who been try to drive at nurburgring when the DLC still on Development !!! and Kazunouri usually add the cars of what he's drive in to GT5 DLC !!! hah Forza RETARD not PURE,but cheating like malaysian cheating Indonesian
Forza 3 looks to have more track side detail buildings trees, too bad Forza 4 doesnt have as much track side detail as Forza 3 though. but the lighting in Forza 4 still looks brighter and more vibrant than GT5 version of this track.
GT 5 is definitely more realistic. Especially the lighting model, hands down the rendering is better in GT5. I'd say the boys at Turn 10 did a better job at replicating the tracks tho. Overall they seem to have more detail, and variation in things like trees and bushes.
ok GT5 just looks a little dark but forza is missing a lot there tack don.t looks like somthing from mario in so do the graphics it just missing a lot
@DaGaulz i have both no lie. to be honest, i bought gt5 thinking it was good bc t looked great on the computer but not so good to me in reality i like forza better no lie i'm not a fanboy
Being an Xbox 360 user, I looked at the one on the right and thought "Oh, that one has to be Forza 4 because it looks so much better", but then I looked, and figured out it was Gran Turismo.... I just went and bought myself PS3. I like the style a lot. It's not as crowded as the Xbox.
I was actually looking for forza 4 videos but i found this haha! I've played both games and I don't have a preference for either but on this occasion, based on looks alone, GT5 is definitely better if we were going for abosolute photoreality. Somehow I feel like there aren't enough lighting calculations being done in Forza to make it look believable..
gt5 has more detail but it's way too dark. forza def. has the better sound though. the 458 has a 4.5L v8 with a very beefy resonating sound. gt5 sounds like a small displacement v4, like an s2000 almost.
Once again this is NOT a fair comparison. Forza is running at a significantly lower screen resolution than GT5. You're not fooling anyone. Also, these games are years apart in their respective release dates with GT5 being MUCH newer than Forza 3. Compare your GT5 to Forza 3 (at equal screen res) and GT5 gets it's butt kicked. Compare it to Forza 4 and GT5 is totally hosed. Your total disregard for the facts would make you an ideal Czar in the Obama white house.
@sdwilliams2 years? its less than one year lol and no your just delusional..making yourslef believe that they use different resolutions when the plain truth is that GT5 looks so so so much better. But your too insecure and butthurt to accept that so yeah
@sdwilliams2 Ignorant Fanboys i swear "Also, these games are years apart in their respective release dates" GT5 is 1 year older than FM3. "Compare it to Forza 4 and GT5" so comparing GT5 to FM4 is fair when FM4 is going to be out a year after GT5? See you contradict yourself, and no GT5 will still look much better than FM3 at equal screen resolution. Look at the Gametrailers comparison and GT5 looks much better. Don't be in denial
Wow how stupid of people to thumbs up with that 1 year older bullshit. Forza came out in October 2009 while GT5 came out in November 2010. Forza 3 is older by a year and a month. People need to do their research before they decide to write something or thumbs up some shit. Fucking ignorant ass people. Unless you're talking about GT5 prologue which doesn't count because you'd have to compare that to Forza 2. Forza 2 vs GT5 prologue, Forza 3 vs GT5, Forza 4 vs GT6.
@shadowtsunami lol call me a fanboy but I'm not LMFAO o really? actually forza 3 is already better than gt5 so shut your fucking mouth if you don't like what you read, this is a fact & gran turismo is now officialy dead, this game is mostly made for japanese people, don't you see the over repeative japanese cars that nobody could be or would drive? FAIL FAIL BAHAHA
@TheWiilover No, T10 didn't developed all of those cars you've mentioned; they used two different companies overseas whilst T10 designs the game for more improvements, bugs fixes, physics etc. One company T10 hired, made 60% of the cars whilst the other developed 180 cars for Fm3 with some tracks, kits etc. That's why there's was lots of bugs, no stick shift animation, etc. at first release. They rushed the game out with unfinished interiors. You're not giving legitimate facts in your posts mate
@TheWiilover T10 had a quick reaction towards PD because they're the first that implemented cockpits before T10. This was when PS3 was starting to show off it's hardware's capabilities. So of course they outsourced two different companies to help with their work. Many Forza fans in forums I've used to be in thought prologue was all CGI. Lots of fans wanted to side with GT5 even admitting it in Forza forums (when FM2 was out). So of course T10 didn't want that to happen.
@TheWiilover GT4 couldn't be online because it didn't pass the beta stages. GT4's online had lots of bugs. Why release a game online that has lots of bugs? That makes no since whatsoever. The team decided to use the online beta to be reserved for GT5 which happened. PD's development for GT5 started in 2007. If you want to get the most out of the hardware, your games has to be re-designed, re-coded, and split that code in it's spe's. The development was 3 years before release. GT1 took 5 yrs
@TheWiilover GTHD and GTvision were in development after GT4. Those two games were ported engines from ps2's hardware (FM2, FM3, FM4 are all ported engines from the original xbox). But those games were cancelled. They decided to use PS3's hardware to get the most out of it for GT5 instead. You forgot to mention about GTPSP development. PD wanted to release gtpsp after GT5's release. But Sony demanded them to release it before. That also hurt their development including implementing 3d tech.
@TheWiilover Like I said earlier, Forza release every two years due to a market strategy they don't even spend time making accurate tracks. FM4 is a good game but why release something every two years and you can't make accurate tracks and won't spend more time with it? PD are more dedicated to their work they do. Also, if fans were so disappointed like you claim, why the servers lag? There's too many users updating their game. If I was disappointed I wouldn't bother getting spec II.
@whatnow1204 oh great now here we go, Gt5 has more fault than forza see? Forza 4 may have some bugs but they are only small bugs & not that's much to deal with also i have never had any much of a servers being down alot, keep your mind is that every game in the world will have to have a server issue for sometime someday, Turn 10 are doing pretty well, even PD can't do that in 2 years, Forza 4 may be a rushed game but it's far away more better than gt & that's a fact & anybody ignore it is idiot
@TheWiilover Sorry mate but I don't think you would accept that some people enjoys GT5 more than FM4. Everybody has a personal preference. It seems like you can't differentiate from facts to opinions. You need to give more details instead of claiming GT5 has more faults, can't do what in two years? You never bothered to counter all of my arguments and just saying random things.
@TheWiilover How about you learn to read you uneducated baboon. A) He was talking about comparing GT5 to FM4, because comparing GT5 to FM3 is unfair. That was a hypocritical and contradicting statement. B) Read what I said "GT5 will still Look much better than FM3 at equal screen resolution" I wasn't talking about what game is better overall you prepubescent dolt. FM4 reused well more than half the car list and tracks of FM3, prioritizing autovista, and kinect. Don't be so blind to that fact.
@shadowtsunami at leaset those cars from forza 3 were focused on all cars around the word, & yes i did read & nope that's not a fact, your fact is fucking false lmfao
@shadowtsunami some people are affected by gt fanboys & they are as ignorant as them so of course they will defend on gt & pretends it's a fact, gt5 is more like gt 4.5 gt6 is probably what gt5 should have been.
if gt wants to keep up then they should spends 10 years, forza 3 is better overall & only assholes would say gt is better
@shadowtsunami also that's so funny, do i care about gt psp? no it's the worst gt ever, lazy cheap gt4 port with few new cars, the physics were so bad as heck, so arcadey, it doesn't even compare to gt3 at least in my opinion.
if PD leaved gt psp alone they would have done more success for GT5 but they didn't.
I love gt but not the way as it used to be before. Gt3 was excellent at it's time, almost perfect for the ps2
@TheWiilover WOah, wait a friggin minute here" this game is mostly made for japanese people, don't you see the over repeative japanese cars that nobody could be or would drive?" Japanese cars export to a high number, and not just the usual mx5 or Supra nonsense. My father, and we are Brits, drives a Nissan Elgrande mpv, not available in our country but a perfect vehicle. V8 Nissan engine with as low a weight chassis as possible in it's class, Jap cars have shown great city car designs too.
I love how everyone treats Forza like it's the second coming. Don't get me wrong it's not a bad game, but it gets old quick. I love so much about this game such as the car customization, the auction house, the car roster. All of these elements are great. However the main problem is the gameplay, Its campaign becomes so repetitive and monotonous. GT5 has a lot of problems but at least the core gameplay has variety such as Special Events, License Tests, and racing with night and weather elements.
When I say the new FOrza 4 pics, I don't mean those from E3 last year, they are fresh and damn realistic! Just google something like "Forza 4 impreza wrx sti"
And isn't memory the ability to save data? You can get way more files into an Blu-Ray CD than an DVD CD because it has more space for it.
@xdlugia1 I know what you mean i've seen the impreza wrx sti also. The graphics may be slightly better but not the best on a console because of Xbox 360's limitations.
No, memory is totally different from capacity. The certain amount of memory is used to hold programs together. PS3 only has 256MB of memory RAM. This is where Polyphony Digital had their problems of development. And Xbox 360 carries 512MB of memory Ram. Just google it.
@whatnow1204 Hey! Compare those pictures with Forza 3 ones and you see more than "slightly" improvement. But this is getting old, we've spammed the last 4 comment pages with shit. Anyway, thanks for teaching me about memory. We can rather have another talk in october when we see the final results of Forza 4.
@whatnow1204 No, not some of the polygons. A shitload of the polygons have to be reduced. There better be a test to check the framerate with 16 cars on the track (CLOSE to each other) and with weather effects on.They performed the test for GT5. I know FM4 will have a higher rating than GT5, but it won't matter to most of us if the physics aren't there, along with the other crazy stuff GT5 has. It's sad to know so many "true" GT fans don't like GT5. I think it's amazing still. Got it at launch.
@C0M0estas Of course it's amazing. I also got it at launch. I've bought the collectors edition, steering wheel, wheel stand. I enjoyed it since. But many Gt5 fans that doesn't like GT5 some of them doesn't have the steering wheel either. That's probably why they won't enjoy it that much.
@whatnow1204 Yea, that's a great point. A steering wheel is what completes the experience. The first 4 definitely aren't as realistic as the 5th. So, they really can't fully appreciate it, until they've bought a wheel. I didn't just buy one until a month after GT5 and it's a lot more satisfactory. Good catch!
@whatnow1204 I can't WAIT till this next update for GT5. It's going to do much for the people that want more from GT5 and do more for the people that already appreciate its existence. So long man, and keep up the praise we know PD deserves. I know I will.
@whatnow1204 actually it did disappoint,. i have the game, & this is the lamest upodate i have ever had in a racing game, working on standard cars cockpit view huh? yet it looks ugly, not full just a stupid cockpit view, plus useless japanese racing cars, i wish the could focus on worldwide cars, see you gt fanboys in gt6 lol
@TheWiilover Lamest update ever? Umad bro? it did a lot more than just give you standard car cockpit views and more cars. Trolls gonna troll, haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.
Lmfao yes i'm mad for wasting my money on uncompleted games, i don't hate gt5, i just hate gt fanboys for being ignorant & does not want to admit the truth, kazanuri yamauchi would ratherly focus on go karts world racing ratherly than focusing & improving the game physics, plus the cars, there isn't much of a decent choice of cars selection, alot of clones, skylines, supras, lancers & even more lame the shitty little ugly japanese cars, expect for capuccino & the copen, car sounds suck dick too
@Th3Gamemaster2010 lol my opnion? not really, it's a fact, kazanuri yamauchi promised alot of things to be done for gt5 when it cames out in a good way but he didn't, he broke alot of promises, also this update is what gt5 should have been at least since we got spa then i can be satisfied, if PD continue like this it will destroy half of the community including the ignorant fanboys.
don't get me started, i loved gt ever since the first one came out, gt4 was good in it's time but now it's a joke
@TheWiilover Tell me some of those things they promised. I am really happy about GT5. You should never over-hype a game. It will always be a disappointment.
i hype about a game when it's not what i expected it to be, really it could have been better, don't know why they spend 5 years & it only got like 170 premium cars? Turn 10 made about 550 & they all looks excellent & the same & only on 2 years, PD could have spend those 5 years for at least making over 300 premium cars, & erase the stupid clones of skylines, evo, & imprezas.
also google it & you will find answer, i'm not wasting my time with someone who is defending on a uncompleted game -.-
@TheWiilover Thats because Turn 10 has got 300 workers and PD has got 144. You ever thought about that?+ Most of the cars are just updated version of the Forza 3 ones. There is only like 90 new cars in FM4.
no offence dude but truth had to be said & it's something you should never avoid admiting, gt could have been better & it would have destroyed forza into pieces if it did, even if they are only 90 cars new, there is also the limited collector edition where it also gives 25+ extra cars, plus monthly dlc, cars & tracks, improved physics, & no they don't look like forza 3, the sound of the cars are all improved, besides that they are no standard unlike gt
@TheWiilover I didn't say that the cars in FM4 look like Forza 3 cars. I just said that they are upgraded from 50 000 to about 200 000. PD is not lazy. They just ran out of time, and the hype was so high because it was in 5 years, so everybody disappointed. Hell, in one of the GT5s trailers you see a koenigsegg CCR and its not in the game. Also the fake car lists made it even worse. So... would GT5 be better without standard cars and maybe with 30 more premiums? I guess so...
@Th3Gamemaster2010 T10 didn't developed all of those cars. It was a rushed reaction towards PD because PD decided to implement the cockpit's first which Forza fans were moving towards GT in forums. T10 didn't want to lose fans so they did everything they can to pay for two different companies to model their cars, tracks, kits, etc. for FM3. That's why cars were done so quickly. And you are right most of those cars in Fm3 are just ported over to FM4 having the same quality and not redone.
I have both games and they are really good but Forza 3 is older and still competes with GT5. Forza has alot of variety. GT5 is better than Forza 3 but there are things i wish GT5 could have. If Forza 3 and GT5 were combined it would be legendary. Still both are good it there own ways some bigger than others.
@Cactaceae33 not the mechanical damage, the damage that actually matters. Turn it on when you race in GT5. Damage isn't what makes GT. It's just been added because it's new and different. But really, mechanical damage is all that matters. Unless, of course, you like Forza for it's customization. Then, more likely than not, you'll like visual damage more than the damage that truly matters. FM4 will be better than its predecessor, but I'm afraid the physics still aren't going to be close to GT5.
@C0M0estas Yeah I can see where you're coming from, but when I race using an Xbox controller, I really doubt I'll notice slight idiosyncrasies and really developed mechanical damage. What I appreciate is proper visual damage to match the level of mechanical damage (I think it's actually not bad at all in FM3). But I suppose, if you have a proper wheel with clutch and all, then you'd notice the difference.
And yeah, I've seen the gameplay vids - kinect looks really imprecise and rather bad! :P
@Cactaceae33 Look up gameplay videos of FM4. There are a couple or whatever. One was for kinect and it was more than enough to tell about physics. I'm likely to buy FM4 though. It's something different to try and variety is great.
@Cactaceae33 im sorry but forza 4 is a blatant copy of gt5, the only difference is that it has kinect so you can walk around your car, which i don't need that. I play racing games to race, not look at a car i'm never going to get for 30 minutes
@Falador321 How can you say that? Bigot. FM4 builds on the successes of FM3, and has an innovative feature, which is NOT copied of GT5.
GT5 is a great game, but I prefer FM3. FM4 will only be better. I play to race, and to admire. I don't just race cars cos they're fast, but because I appreciate the aesthetics of a machine that I will never be wealthy enough to own. Man up.
Omg you xbox fanboys are so stupid... "it took gt 5 games to compare to forza's 3... Haha the gt series has been around longer then the damn xbox has been invented....
@xdlugia1 Yep I've seen it. It doesn't mean that the game is going to make more sales than GT5. I only like the presentation of the game for example you can see the doors lift up with the ferrari, mercedes etc. It's the same thing you seen in Test Drive Unlimited. You can say the graphics improved slightly but those graphics you see in the trailer with those cars won't be gameplay. The polygons has to be reduced during gameplay because of xbox 360's limitations; same for the ps3.
@whatnow1204 .............The wonderful graphics they had seen was only on 20% of the cars in the game, and damage, shadows and accident physics was extremely poor. There was also a big lack of Customization and tuning, and those who was wasn't very realistic made. They waited 7 years for this? This wasn't even close to perfect! What had PD done for those 7 years, Drinking tea? Maybe they knew they would get lots of sales anyway (and they did) and didn't care much.
@xdlugia1 I see you're mentioning about premium cars which is only 20% of them. They never developed the standard cars at all. Those cars are from previous versions of the GT series. Those cars got ported onto the ps3. The only difference with the standard cars they worked on is HD that's it. The premium cars takes a year to developed. PD ceo Kaz said it in his own words that he wanted another two years in the development of the title. GT5 was currently being developed since GT4 came out.
@xdlugia1 Do you even know why it took them so long for GT5 to come out? GT5 got developed from scratch they dumped the previous engine which is GT4. The earlier version of the game which is GTHD which I'm sure you heard of it that's an example of the GT4's engine that was being developed for the ps3. They got rid of it and started all over. They decided to create an engine for scratch to maximize ps3 capabilities. During the development they later came out with prologue.
@xdlugia1 You can't expect perfection especially on the first GT title for the ps3. The damages you've mentioned are different from other titles. They didn't create pre damage models that you see in fm3, nfs, grid etc. GT5 has real time deformation which each polygons on the car gets deformed this is why the cars tooked a year to get developed. I haven't reached to level 40 yet to see their full time damage. But i'm not going to hit a wall at 140 mph just to see a damage.
@nfsmohpsp One single car doesn't take more than a week maximum. They could easily made all premium. And watch a Shift 2/GT5 comparison, Shift 2 looks better.
@xdlugia1 Anyways you're looking at the video comparison. I see differences. Why is that FM3 haven't already implemented better animations? I see the driver in GT5 manually using paddle shifters. FM3 driver is just stiff. The screen on FM3 cars doesn't feels like it's shaking. The screen isn't jittering.
The only thing that matters is physics and graphics. Why do you hate GT5 so much?
@whatnow1204 6. I don't know when GT6 comes out, but since GT5 took almost 7 years, GT6 will probably take another 7 at least if they continue their lazyness.
7. It's not just physics and graphics, Sound and tuning is important as well. And Forza is way ahead when it comes to that.
8. GT5 is a great game, but when you think about all those years of development it's just not good enough.
9. This isn't the beginning of GT, it's the end...
10. This is just dumb because FM4 will crush it anyways
@xdlugia1 Here you go calling them lazy. I already explained to you why their development took so long.
on #7 physics and graphics is the core of a simulator. Without the physics, the tuning wouldn't be accurate at all. And about the sounds, both fm3 and GT5 isn't 100% sound quality by a long shot. FM3 may sounds better but wouldn't be exactly. Both developers needs this improvement.
@xdlugia1 Forza on #8 at least you said something positive finally. But it seems like not matter how the future of the GT series do weather it's good or not you want them to fail.
on #9 PD made about close (if not) a billion from GT5 prologue, GTPSP, GT5. They're not coming to an end. Like i've said it's just the beginning.
#10 There you go again trying to sound like a fanboy. We haven't even seen the full details of FM4 yet. And you're bashing GT.
@whatnow1204 I never said there wasn't a huge improvement from FM3 to FM4, I said there wasn't a huge improvement from FM2 to FM3. FM4 is a major upgrade, the few spots people were disapointed in FM3 is filled in the next one. Watch the leaked trailer (and it says real in-game footage), it easily beats any other game.
And actually ALL FM3 cars have realistic sound, search something something like "FM3 real life sound" or something like that. And then listen to your GT5, well.... Yeah.....
@xdlugia1 Of course people were disappointed in some spots of FM3. Similar to GT5. And now you said it's filled in the next one. What makes you think GT6 won't be improved in some spots? You said it yourself that GT is the end. You have high doubts for GT. It's really funny that you haven't even played the game yet. All they said there's more manufactures. And some of the features i see in FM4 is from other titles.
@whatnow1204 Hey listen up! The reason why GT will be beaten by Forza soon as the leading console sim is because GT5 flopped the series. Yup, you heard me, and that's a fact actually. You know TopGear? They was planning to work with GT, that's why the test track and stuff is included, but when it flopped after release it was too embarrassing to work with them. That's why they decided to work with Forza instead. Millions of TopGear fans will buy Forza for TopGear content and already that's enough
@xdlugia1 haha Dude what have you've been smoking on? You really like to give out false statements don't you. GT5 never flopped even the critics didn't give the game a bad review 10/10 physics 10/10 visuals. And yes I watches top gear. TopGear signed a contract with Microsoft in September of last year before GT5 came out. Andy William the producer and the creation of the Stig he got a bit frustrated because PD taken out the Stig. GT5 never flopped.
@whatnow1204 And well... Most critics didn't give them 10/10 on visuals and physics. Most because the rubber ball incident rolls and lack of visual damage and HD on standard cars. It was more like 8-9/10
@xdlugia1 PD didn't just have TopGear on their hands. Red Bull, Nascar, FIA, Sienna Italy etc. These elements were PD plans but they didn't have time finishing. Porsches wasn't implemented because they signed a contract also with MS. You remember all of those comments I gave you right? Some of these features PD had to be taken out because of the release. PD production budget was over $60 million. These companies go where the $ signs is at dude. They can care less wether a game flops or not.
@xdlugia1 And you say TopGear is too embarrassed work with them which is a lie. PD didn't have enough dealings with TopGear.
Lets say if FM4 fails. I'm sure you'll be disappointed, but i'm sure you'll give FM a chance for their next title hoping the better. If it's GT series you're not regardless because you hate the GT series. There's many fans out that may criticize GT and still play it, only because they care about their favorite franchise. And they still have hopes for their future.
@whatnow1204 If Forza 4 failed I would give em a chance yes since I'm an Xbox fan(boy), but the people who got both consoles or isn't a big fan of the franchise may not care about it anymore.
Actually PD had lot's of time finishing it, but they was not very effective. And as you say, companies like those go after the moneys, they knew a lot of people are fans of GT, they knew they would get a lot of sales anyway, just like the drymilked Call of Duty.
@xdlugia1 No PD had time finishing parts in certain areas but not all. Kaz's vision of the Gran Turismo series were too high for the ps3's capabilities. They suffered mostly with hardware issues which one of them were the lack of memory. There were other features such as youtube exports, headcam, etc which gave these memory issues. Those were also taken out. Headcam only featured in Arcade mode. These are some of the reasons why the development took some time.
@xdlugia1 There you go again twisting words. You're the one calling the game a flop no one else just you. I guess you know nothing about computers. Blu Rays has nothing to do with memory. You read all of the comments; I already explained to you about about the development time.
@xdlugia1 No car in GT5 takes a week to become premium. They have to test the performance of the vehicle, damage deformation, compress the engine sounds which is why most of you cars sounds like vaccum cleaners, render all of the models and export them into meshes. And you say that only takes a week. You have no idea what you're talking about.
And don't think all of the engine sounds is inaccurate either. Some of the car's engine has improved slightly. The lexus isf, mercedes sl65, nissan 370.
@whatnow1204 1. 9 comments is called spam, or a little desperate
2. Xbox 360 also supports 1080p, Microsoft says it, and it even says so in the setup on my console!
3. If they are focusing at one car at the time it should be much earlier finished than a week, and specially when GT5 didn't focus on everything you mentioned like damage and engine sound.
Forza looks ugly!
Doesnt look at a ferrari at all!
No shadows on the dashboard and its so much cartoon
xSlutch 1 month ago
if you think that forza is looking like shit, then go and see the video on le mans, between theese games, and then you see how fake, and all to shiny GT5 is...
in a game like theese you also wants good sounds, but that thing you can only get in Forza 2,3,4.... :) even Forza 2 sounds much better than GT5! :)
theudss 1 month ago
@theudss You're blaming GT5 to shine too much? Just look at your own game, but for safety, please wear sunglasses. And btw, I don't want good sounds, I want you to get valid arguments.
MrUppmas 1 month ago
what? no 1080p?
WhatThePresidentSays 2 months ago in playlist ＧＴ５ vs Forza4
i like how this ''program'' show thing is supposed to be like all good and shit, but they tend to swear in the comments!?
rallyfreak123 2 months ago
Forza 3 Im sorry, you could be a amazing game, but your graphics are inferior to GT5, when comparing to gt5 it appears that you are comparing a cartoon vs a photorealistic...GT5 have won this one with better graphics, car handling, number of cars, events...
ivanalansoares123 2 months ago
Im sorry, Fm3 looks like a cartoon.
XjInterceptoR 3 months ago
GANZ KLAR GT5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MTVDeutschlandAG 3 months ago
you think Director of forza would brave to test race in Nurburgring HAH NEVER !!
cuz Kazunouri is the brave director who been try to drive at nurburgring when the DLC still on Development !!! and Kazunouri usually add the cars of what he's drive in to GT5 DLC !!! hah Forza RETARD not PURE,but cheating like malaysian cheating Indonesian
Smithtyler123X 3 months ago 8
Why test GT5 vs FM3??? For fuck sake FM4 is out try to compare that game >:D
Westmananton 4 months ago
@Westmananton For fuck's sake, this video is 11 months old...
MotoGamesTV 4 months ago 15
@MotoGamesTV great response lol :D
Falador321 2 months ago
Forza 3 looks to have more track side detail buildings trees, too bad Forza 4 doesnt have as much track side detail as Forza 3 though. but the lighting in Forza 4 still looks brighter and more vibrant than GT5 version of this track.
horris2 4 months ago
both look very nice! i dont have that track tho in forza 3? do you have to download it?
asshatnowhere159 4 months ago
@asshatnowhere159 Yes, it's available in DLC.
MotoGamesTV 4 months ago
@MotoGamesTV i'll just invest in FM4 :P
asshatnowhere159 4 months ago
GT 5 is definitely more realistic. Especially the lighting model, hands down the rendering is better in GT5. I'd say the boys at Turn 10 did a better job at replicating the tracks tho. Overall they seem to have more detail, and variation in things like trees and bushes.
suchafool990 4 months ago
ok GT5 just looks a little dark but forza is missing a lot there tack don.t looks like somthing from mario in so do the graphics it just missing a lot
dragonballzfan41 4 months ago
Forza 4 is much better than forza 3 and gt5
TheFred128 4 months ago
fm3 looks so fake lol
DaGaulz 4 months ago
@DaGaulz HAHA FUNNY IT LOOKS MORE REAL THAN GT5. HATERZ GONNA HATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mrravensfan1001 4 months ago
@mrravensfan1001 no.. just play gt5 and forza 3, u will see the difference
DaGaulz 4 months ago
@DaGaulz i have both no lie. to be honest, i bought gt5 thinking it was good bc t looked great on the computer but not so good to me in reality i like forza better no lie i'm not a fanboy
mrravensfan1001 4 months ago
@mrravensfan1001 k, i'm more about gt5. But whatever, if u have a ps3 u buy gt5 and if u have a xbox u buy forza motorsport :p
DaGaulz 4 months ago
@DaGaulz then why did u start this conversation, no point and a waist of time.
mrravensfan1001 4 months ago
@mrravensfan1001 just an oppinion
DaGaulz 4 months ago
GT5 win
RafaelTheBestt 5 months ago
I see fanboys! *leaves video without watching*
SuperHyperMario 5 months ago
even that ft5 is older look at just the detail of the gauges !
stormer1092 5 months ago
Ferari458 italia
Blackangel6278 5 months ago
barely any shadows on 360
GlobalMusicStage 5 months ago
look at the sky!!! GT5 got clouds but FM got nothing.. FM is more boring looking than GT
vauhtimuna1 5 months ago
GT5 destroys Forza 3
101JuventusFan 5 months ago
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Being an Xbox 360 user, I looked at the one on the right and thought "Oh, that one has to be Forza 4 because it looks so much better", but then I looked, and figured out it was Gran Turismo.... I just went and bought myself PS3. I like the style a lot. It's not as crowded as the Xbox.
gouskin 5 months ago
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gouskin 5 months ago
Both of them absolutely suck in this video :D
MeDamningYou 5 months ago
the lighting and sounds in FM3 were retarded.....lets see how FM4 puts out
evolover999 6 months ago
OMG fanbois "gt5 is too dark waaa this make fm3 way betta" ummm noo gt5 isn't dark it's the way too make the game realistic soo stfu u little fanbois
MrDhoobs1 6 months ago
WTF u mean fm3 is better u retard it's shit compared to gt5 fm3 looks soo fake too cartoony
MrDhoobs1 6 months ago
fm3 is better than fuking gt5
mehdi701 6 months ago
I was actually looking for forza 4 videos but i found this haha! I've played both games and I don't have a preference for either but on this occasion, based on looks alone, GT5 is definitely better if we were going for abosolute photoreality. Somehow I feel like there aren't enough lighting calculations being done in Forza to make it look believable..
make of it what you will it's only my opinion.
alphafour 6 months ago
@alphafour You're absolutely right which is why Forza 4 features an entirely new lighting system.
UKMikey 6 months ago
@UKMikey Thanks for the info, happy to have a chat one non-fanboy to another non-fanboy, have a nice day ^^
alphafour 6 months ago
360 win !!
killian64500 6 months ago
Gran turismo 5 wins!
TeeBee997 6 months ago
Ps3-ps2-ps1-xbox360
13garoni 6 months ago
GT looks like real life next to FM3.
Sycsa 6 months ago
gt5 graphics are very good
McURDIL 7 months ago
Not to be a fanboy, but my god Forza 3 looks fake next to GT5
lifethelifetoday 7 months ago
forza finished first, sorry but i'm looking at who comes first
godwarmw2 7 months ago
GT5 graphics is already 5 years old, so I think it's fair.
oishifunk 7 months ago
@oishifunk ? idiot
Maskas1104 7 months ago
gt5 has more detail but it's way too dark. forza def. has the better sound though. the 458 has a 4.5L v8 with a very beefy resonating sound. gt5 sounds like a small displacement v4, like an s2000 almost.
Naizarak 7 months ago
@Naizarak it's dark because of the overcast dude lol
shadowtsunami 7 months ago
all engines in FM3 sounds like a fucking V8, WTF?
BERKUT888 7 months ago
Once again this is NOT a fair comparison. Forza is running at a significantly lower screen resolution than GT5. You're not fooling anyone. Also, these games are years apart in their respective release dates with GT5 being MUCH newer than Forza 3. Compare your GT5 to Forza 3 (at equal screen res) and GT5 gets it's butt kicked. Compare it to Forza 4 and GT5 is totally hosed. Your total disregard for the facts would make you an ideal Czar in the Obama white house.
sdwilliams2 7 months ago
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@sdwilliams2 You can't handle the truth! :)
87Lukas87 7 months ago
@87Lukas87 hahaha. That was not only funny but true as well. All the best to you Lukas87.
sdwilliams2 7 months ago
@sdwilliams2 years? its less than one year lol and no your just delusional..making yourslef believe that they use different resolutions when the plain truth is that GT5 looks so so so much better. But your too insecure and butthurt to accept that so yeah
normalguyhere 7 months ago
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@sdwilliams2 Ignorant Fanboys i swear "Also, these games are years apart in their respective release dates" GT5 is 1 year older than FM3. "Compare it to Forza 4 and GT5" so comparing GT5 to FM4 is fair when FM4 is going to be out a year after GT5? See you contradict yourself, and no GT5 will still look much better than FM3 at equal screen resolution. Look at the Gametrailers comparison and GT5 looks much better. Don't be in denial
shadowtsunami 7 months ago 6
@shadowtsunami +1
d1jal 7 months ago
@shadowtsunami 1 YEAR REALLY? maybey 5 or 3 years is ok but one?
umairool50 7 months ago
@shadowtsunami
Wow how stupid of people to thumbs up with that 1 year older bullshit. Forza came out in October 2009 while GT5 came out in November 2010. Forza 3 is older by a year and a month. People need to do their research before they decide to write something or thumbs up some shit. Fucking ignorant ass people. Unless you're talking about GT5 prologue which doesn't count because you'd have to compare that to Forza 2. Forza 2 vs GT5 prologue, Forza 3 vs GT5, Forza 4 vs GT6.
Behemoth2334 4 months ago
@shadowtsunami lol i disagree, Forza 3 still looks better than shitty 5
TheWiilover 4 months ago
@shadowtsunami lol call me a fanboy but I'm not LMFAO o really? actually forza 3 is already better than gt5 so shut your fucking mouth if you don't like what you read, this is a fact & gran turismo is now officialy dead, this game is mostly made for japanese people, don't you see the over repeative japanese cars that nobody could be or would drive? FAIL FAIL BAHAHA
TheWiilover 4 months ago
@TheWiilover No, T10 didn't developed all of those cars you've mentioned; they used two different companies overseas whilst T10 designs the game for more improvements, bugs fixes, physics etc. One company T10 hired, made 60% of the cars whilst the other developed 180 cars for Fm3 with some tracks, kits etc. That's why there's was lots of bugs, no stick shift animation, etc. at first release. They rushed the game out with unfinished interiors. You're not giving legitimate facts in your posts mate
whatnow1204 4 months ago
@TheWiilover T10 had a quick reaction towards PD because they're the first that implemented cockpits before T10. This was when PS3 was starting to show off it's hardware's capabilities. So of course they outsourced two different companies to help with their work. Many Forza fans in forums I've used to be in thought prologue was all CGI. Lots of fans wanted to side with GT5 even admitting it in Forza forums (when FM2 was out). So of course T10 didn't want that to happen.
whatnow1204 4 months ago
@TheWiilover GT4 couldn't be online because it didn't pass the beta stages. GT4's online had lots of bugs. Why release a game online that has lots of bugs? That makes no since whatsoever. The team decided to use the online beta to be reserved for GT5 which happened. PD's development for GT5 started in 2007. If you want to get the most out of the hardware, your games has to be re-designed, re-coded, and split that code in it's spe's. The development was 3 years before release. GT1 took 5 yrs
whatnow1204 4 months ago
@TheWiilover GTHD and GTvision were in development after GT4. Those two games were ported engines from ps2's hardware (FM2, FM3, FM4 are all ported engines from the original xbox). But those games were cancelled. They decided to use PS3's hardware to get the most out of it for GT5 instead. You forgot to mention about GTPSP development. PD wanted to release gtpsp after GT5's release. But Sony demanded them to release it before. That also hurt their development including implementing 3d tech.
whatnow1204 4 months ago
@TheWiilover Like I said earlier, Forza release every two years due to a market strategy they don't even spend time making accurate tracks. FM4 is a good game but why release something every two years and you can't make accurate tracks and won't spend more time with it? PD are more dedicated to their work they do. Also, if fans were so disappointed like you claim, why the servers lag? There's too many users updating their game. If I was disappointed I wouldn't bother getting spec II.
whatnow1204 4 months ago
@whatnow1204 oh great now here we go, Gt5 has more fault than forza see? Forza 4 may have some bugs but they are only small bugs & not that's much to deal with also i have never had any much of a servers being down alot, keep your mind is that every game in the world will have to have a server issue for sometime someday, Turn 10 are doing pretty well, even PD can't do that in 2 years, Forza 4 may be a rushed game but it's far away more better than gt & that's a fact & anybody ignore it is idiot
TheWiilover 4 months ago
@TheWiilover Sorry mate but I don't think you would accept that some people enjoys GT5 more than FM4. Everybody has a personal preference. It seems like you can't differentiate from facts to opinions. You need to give more details instead of claiming GT5 has more faults, can't do what in two years? You never bothered to counter all of my arguments and just saying random things.
whatnow1204 4 months ago
@TheWiilover How about you learn to read you uneducated baboon. A) He was talking about comparing GT5 to FM4, because comparing GT5 to FM3 is unfair. That was a hypocritical and contradicting statement. B) Read what I said "GT5 will still Look much better than FM3 at equal screen resolution" I wasn't talking about what game is better overall you prepubescent dolt. FM4 reused well more than half the car list and tracks of FM3, prioritizing autovista, and kinect. Don't be so blind to that fact.
shadowtsunami 4 months ago
@shadowtsunami at leaset those cars from forza 3 were focused on all cars around the word, & yes i did read & nope that's not a fact, your fact is fucking false lmfao
TheWiilover 4 months ago
@TheWiilover yes it is true. GT5 does look better than FM3 overall.
shadowtsunami 4 months ago
@shadowtsunami some people are affected by gt fanboys & they are as ignorant as them so of course they will defend on gt & pretends it's a fact, gt5 is more like gt 4.5 gt6 is probably what gt5 should have been.
if gt wants to keep up then they should spends 10 years, forza 3 is better overall & only assholes would say gt is better
TheWiilover 4 months ago
@TheWiilover And I never said GT5 wasn't either. I'm also not a fanboy. I've also said that multiple times about how FM3 is the better overall game.
shadowtsunami 4 months ago
@TheWiilover I am not an asshole and I think GT5 is better. You should not call people assholes before you are sure that you are not an asshole.
Th3Gamemaster2010 3 months ago
@shadowtsunami also that's so funny, do i care about gt psp? no it's the worst gt ever, lazy cheap gt4 port with few new cars, the physics were so bad as heck, so arcadey, it doesn't even compare to gt3 at least in my opinion.
if PD leaved gt psp alone they would have done more success for GT5 but they didn't.
I love gt but not the way as it used to be before. Gt3 was excellent at it's time, almost perfect for the ps2
TheWiilover 4 months ago
@TheWiilover LOL what wrong person.
shadowtsunami 4 months ago
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@TheWiilover WOah, wait a friggin minute here" this game is mostly made for japanese people, don't you see the over repeative japanese cars that nobody could be or would drive?" Japanese cars export to a high number, and not just the usual mx5 or Supra nonsense. My father, and we are Brits, drives a Nissan Elgrande mpv, not available in our country but a perfect vehicle. V8 Nissan engine with as low a weight chassis as possible in it's class, Jap cars have shown great city car designs too.
athethithothuth 2 months ago
@sdwilliams2 Forza 3 runs at a lower res than GT5. Forza 3 is like 720p and GT5 is 1080p
d1jal 7 months ago
@d1jal upscaled
Combellinas 7 months ago
DONT COMPARE GAMES THAT 6 YEARS AND THE OTHER 1
nconr2 8 months ago
I love how everyone treats Forza like it's the second coming. Don't get me wrong it's not a bad game, but it gets old quick. I love so much about this game such as the car customization, the auction house, the car roster. All of these elements are great. However the main problem is the gameplay, Its campaign becomes so repetitive and monotonous. GT5 has a lot of problems but at least the core gameplay has variety such as Special Events, License Tests, and racing with night and weather elements.
Misfitgraves23 8 months ago
real driving is the way..gt5 is the game
33nos33 8 months ago
forza came out wene gt had already had 3 games now forza is only 1 game behind
TheLacobe1 8 months ago
GT5 looks like shit.... COMPARED TO FORZA 4!!
xdlugia1 8 months ago
When I say the new FOrza 4 pics, I don't mean those from E3 last year, they are fresh and damn realistic! Just google something like "Forza 4 impreza wrx sti"
And isn't memory the ability to save data? You can get way more files into an Blu-Ray CD than an DVD CD because it has more space for it.
xdlugia1 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 I know what you mean i've seen the impreza wrx sti also. The graphics may be slightly better but not the best on a console because of Xbox 360's limitations.
No, memory is totally different from capacity. The certain amount of memory is used to hold programs together. PS3 only has 256MB of memory RAM. This is where Polyphony Digital had their problems of development. And Xbox 360 carries 512MB of memory Ram. Just google it.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@whatnow1204 Hey! Compare those pictures with Forza 3 ones and you see more than "slightly" improvement. But this is getting old, we've spammed the last 4 comment pages with shit. Anyway, thanks for teaching me about memory. We can rather have another talk in october when we see the final results of Forza 4.
xdlugia1 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 You have to understand those pics you see aren't gameplay. Some of the polygon counts has to be reduced during gameplay.
lol Yea we've spammed these pages. No problem about the memory bro. Yep we'll talk in October to discuss FM4 :)
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@whatnow1204 No, not some of the polygons. A shitload of the polygons have to be reduced. There better be a test to check the framerate with 16 cars on the track (CLOSE to each other) and with weather effects on.They performed the test for GT5. I know FM4 will have a higher rating than GT5, but it won't matter to most of us if the physics aren't there, along with the other crazy stuff GT5 has. It's sad to know so many "true" GT fans don't like GT5. I think it's amazing still. Got it at launch.
C0M0estas 9 months ago
@C0M0estas Of course it's amazing. I also got it at launch. I've bought the collectors edition, steering wheel, wheel stand. I enjoyed it since. But many Gt5 fans that doesn't like GT5 some of them doesn't have the steering wheel either. That's probably why they won't enjoy it that much.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@whatnow1204 Yea, that's a great point. A steering wheel is what completes the experience. The first 4 definitely aren't as realistic as the 5th. So, they really can't fully appreciate it, until they've bought a wheel. I didn't just buy one until a month after GT5 and it's a lot more satisfactory. Good catch!
C0M0estas 9 months ago
@C0M0estas Thanks! you have good pointers too.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@whatnow1204 I can't WAIT till this next update for GT5. It's going to do much for the people that want more from GT5 and do more for the people that already appreciate its existence. So long man, and keep up the praise we know PD deserves. I know I will.
C0M0estas 9 months ago
@C0M0estas Can't wait for the update either. There's so many things that they're working on. GT5 never disappoints. Later bro!
whatnow1204 9 months ago 11
@whatnow1204 actually it did disappoint,. i have the game, & this is the lamest upodate i have ever had in a racing game, working on standard cars cockpit view huh? yet it looks ugly, not full just a stupid cockpit view, plus useless japanese racing cars, i wish the could focus on worldwide cars, see you gt fanboys in gt6 lol
TheWiilover 4 months ago
@TheWiilover Lamest update ever? Umad bro? it did a lot more than just give you standard car cockpit views and more cars. Trolls gonna troll, haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.
Th3Gamemaster2010 4 months ago
Lmfao yes i'm mad for wasting my money on uncompleted games, i don't hate gt5, i just hate gt fanboys for being ignorant & does not want to admit the truth, kazanuri yamauchi would ratherly focus on go karts world racing ratherly than focusing & improving the game physics, plus the cars, there isn't much of a decent choice of cars selection, alot of clones, skylines, supras, lancers & even more lame the shitty little ugly japanese cars, expect for capuccino & the copen, car sounds suck dick too
TheWiilover 4 months ago
@TheWiilover Thats your opinion. I am really proud of owning GT5 and PS3.
Th3Gamemaster2010 4 months ago
@Th3Gamemaster2010 lol my opnion? not really, it's a fact, kazanuri yamauchi promised alot of things to be done for gt5 when it cames out in a good way but he didn't, he broke alot of promises, also this update is what gt5 should have been at least since we got spa then i can be satisfied, if PD continue like this it will destroy half of the community including the ignorant fanboys.
don't get me started, i loved gt ever since the first one came out, gt4 was good in it's time but now it's a joke
TheWiilover 4 months ago
@TheWiilover Tell me some of those things they promised. I am really happy about GT5. You should never over-hype a game. It will always be a disappointment.
Th3Gamemaster2010 4 months ago
i hype about a game when it's not what i expected it to be, really it could have been better, don't know why they spend 5 years & it only got like 170 premium cars? Turn 10 made about 550 & they all looks excellent & the same & only on 2 years, PD could have spend those 5 years for at least making over 300 premium cars, & erase the stupid clones of skylines, evo, & imprezas.
also google it & you will find answer, i'm not wasting my time with someone who is defending on a uncompleted game -.-
TheWiilover 4 months ago
@TheWiilover Thats because Turn 10 has got 300 workers and PD has got 144. You ever thought about that?+ Most of the cars are just updated version of the Forza 3 ones. There is only like 90 new cars in FM4.
Th3Gamemaster2010 4 months ago
no offence dude but truth had to be said & it's something you should never avoid admiting, gt could have been better & it would have destroyed forza into pieces if it did, even if they are only 90 cars new, there is also the limited collector edition where it also gives 25+ extra cars, plus monthly dlc, cars & tracks, improved physics, & no they don't look like forza 3, the sound of the cars are all improved, besides that they are no standard unlike gt
Gt being setting there lazy for 5 years,
TheWiilover 4 months ago
@TheWiilover I didn't say that the cars in FM4 look like Forza 3 cars. I just said that they are upgraded from 50 000 to about 200 000. PD is not lazy. They just ran out of time, and the hype was so high because it was in 5 years, so everybody disappointed. Hell, in one of the GT5s trailers you see a koenigsegg CCR and its not in the game. Also the fake car lists made it even worse. So... would GT5 be better without standard cars and maybe with 30 more premiums? I guess so...
Th3Gamemaster2010 4 months ago
@Th3Gamemaster2010 T10 didn't developed all of those cars. It was a rushed reaction towards PD because PD decided to implement the cockpit's first which Forza fans were moving towards GT in forums. T10 didn't want to lose fans so they did everything they can to pay for two different companies to model their cars, tracks, kits, etc. for FM3. That's why cars were done so quickly. And you are right most of those cars in Fm3 are just ported over to FM4 having the same quality and not redone.
whatnow1204 4 months ago
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TheWiilover 4 months ago
@whatnow1204 At least someone understands :)
Th3Gamemaster2010 4 months ago
@C0M0estas
umm forza has soooo much better physics then gt does
rohangiga 8 months ago
@rohangiga good god, that's funny.
C0M0estas 8 months ago
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I have both games and they are really good but Forza 3 is older and still competes with GT5. Forza has alot of variety. GT5 is better than Forza 3 but there are things i wish GT5 could have. If Forza 3 and GT5 were combined it would be legendary. Still both are good it there own ways some bigger than others.
Graphics: Gran Turismo 5
Customization: Forza Motorsport 3
Features: Forza Motorsport 3
Variety: Forza Motorsport 3
Tracks: Forza Motorsport 3
Cars: Gran Turismo 5
DLC: Forza Motorsport 3
ssbblover 9 months ago
gt5 looks like the window is broken and forza 3 still has one....
MrHatenoobs 9 months ago
Just wait till forza 4 !!
I've played both, and while GT5 has superior graphics, forza 3 has better gameplay, and the damage is rather superb !
Cactaceae33 10 months ago
@Cactaceae33 not the mechanical damage, the damage that actually matters. Turn it on when you race in GT5. Damage isn't what makes GT. It's just been added because it's new and different. But really, mechanical damage is all that matters. Unless, of course, you like Forza for it's customization. Then, more likely than not, you'll like visual damage more than the damage that truly matters. FM4 will be better than its predecessor, but I'm afraid the physics still aren't going to be close to GT5.
C0M0estas 9 months ago
@C0M0estas Yeah I can see where you're coming from, but when I race using an Xbox controller, I really doubt I'll notice slight idiosyncrasies and really developed mechanical damage. What I appreciate is proper visual damage to match the level of mechanical damage (I think it's actually not bad at all in FM3). But I suppose, if you have a proper wheel with clutch and all, then you'd notice the difference.
And yeah, I've seen the gameplay vids - kinect looks really imprecise and rather bad! :P
Cactaceae33 9 months ago
@Cactaceae33 Look up gameplay videos of FM4. There are a couple or whatever. One was for kinect and it was more than enough to tell about physics. I'm likely to buy FM4 though. It's something different to try and variety is great.
C0M0estas 9 months ago
@C0M0estas And sorry, but does GT5 have this?
/watch?v=pEhOiYVxcEg
Cactaceae33 9 months ago
@Cactaceae33
lol no. That looks plastic-ee.
C0M0estas 9 months ago
@Cactaceae33 im sorry but forza 4 is a blatant copy of gt5, the only difference is that it has kinect so you can walk around your car, which i don't need that. I play racing games to race, not look at a car i'm never going to get for 30 minutes
Falador321 9 months ago
@Falador321 How can you say that? Bigot. FM4 builds on the successes of FM3, and has an innovative feature, which is NOT copied of GT5.
GT5 is a great game, but I prefer FM3. FM4 will only be better. I play to race, and to admire. I don't just race cars cos they're fast, but because I appreciate the aesthetics of a machine that I will never be wealthy enough to own. Man up.
Cactaceae33 9 months ago
@Cactaceae33 lol damage is shit in both
nickster1318 9 months ago
@nickster1318 At least there is 'visual' damage on FM3 - I admit though, that some games such as Grid/DiRT have much better damage
Cactaceae33 9 months ago
@Cactaceae33 there is visual damage of gt5
nickster1318 9 months ago
Driving in real life pwns both of these games XD
vybzcartel1 10 months ago
Forza 3-> Nurburgring "remix"
Gran Turismo 5-> THE REAL Nurburgring!
MirkGimi97 10 months ago
Omg you xbox fanboys are so stupid... "it took gt 5 games to compare to forza's 3... Haha the gt series has been around longer then the damn xbox has been invented....
thrasher025 10 months ago
forza looks soo shit compared to gt5 lmao
eskimosnipez 10 months ago
There's no shadows in fm3. The interior has solid colors. FM4 better improve in this!
whatnow1204 10 months ago
@whatnow1204 Have you even seen the leaked trailer? It will beat GT5 hands down!
xdlugia1 10 months ago
@xdlugia1 Yep I've seen it. It doesn't mean that the game is going to make more sales than GT5. I only like the presentation of the game for example you can see the doors lift up with the ferrari, mercedes etc. It's the same thing you seen in Test Drive Unlimited. You can say the graphics improved slightly but those graphics you see in the trailer with those cars won't be gameplay. The polygons has to be reduced during gameplay because of xbox 360's limitations; same for the ps3.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@whatnow1204 .............The wonderful graphics they had seen was only on 20% of the cars in the game, and damage, shadows and accident physics was extremely poor. There was also a big lack of Customization and tuning, and those who was wasn't very realistic made. They waited 7 years for this? This wasn't even close to perfect! What had PD done for those 7 years, Drinking tea? Maybe they knew they would get lots of sales anyway (and they did) and didn't care much.
You all know this is true.
xdlugia1 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 I see you're mentioning about premium cars which is only 20% of them. They never developed the standard cars at all. Those cars are from previous versions of the GT series. Those cars got ported onto the ps3. The only difference with the standard cars they worked on is HD that's it. The premium cars takes a year to developed. PD ceo Kaz said it in his own words that he wanted another two years in the development of the title. GT5 was currently being developed since GT4 came out.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 Do you even know why it took them so long for GT5 to come out? GT5 got developed from scratch they dumped the previous engine which is GT4. The earlier version of the game which is GTHD which I'm sure you heard of it that's an example of the GT4's engine that was being developed for the ps3. They got rid of it and started all over. They decided to create an engine for scratch to maximize ps3 capabilities. During the development they later came out with prologue.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 You can't expect perfection especially on the first GT title for the ps3. The damages you've mentioned are different from other titles. They didn't create pre damage models that you see in fm3, nfs, grid etc. GT5 has real time deformation which each polygons on the car gets deformed this is why the cars tooked a year to get developed. I haven't reached to level 40 yet to see their full time damage. But i'm not going to hit a wall at 140 mph just to see a damage.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@whatnow1204 1. You don't have to spam me with 9 comments
2. When GT6 comes out it would be weird if it didn't beat FM4, because then probably would be FM 6 or something.
3. SHIFT 2 has better graphics than GT5, and they only used 3 years.
4. GT PSP was shitty, just admit it.
5. FM3 doesn't have wheather and Night racing, but it has damage and realistic engine sound and tuning.
6. FM3 wasn't a huge improvement from FM2, FM4 is...
7. Making in-game cars doesn't take more than a week maximum
xdlugia1 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 the premium cars took 6 months, because they are detailed, not as nfs cars, they are al low poly count
nfsmohpsp 9 months ago
@nfsmohpsp One single car doesn't take more than a week maximum. They could easily made all premium. And watch a Shift 2/GT5 comparison, Shift 2 looks better.
xdlugia1 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 you clearly dont have any idea what you are talking about
nfsmohpsp 9 months ago
@nfsmohpsp I do, and I know that you are nothing more than a PS3 fanboy.
xdlugia1 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 you cry and you whine, but you cant proob me wrong
nfsmohpsp 9 months ago
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@nfsmohpsp Then you prove me wrong then!
xdlugia1 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 Anyways you're looking at the video comparison. I see differences. Why is that FM3 haven't already implemented better animations? I see the driver in GT5 manually using paddle shifters. FM3 driver is just stiff. The screen on FM3 cars doesn't feels like it's shaking. The screen isn't jittering.
The only thing that matters is physics and graphics. Why do you hate GT5 so much?
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@whatnow1204 6. I don't know when GT6 comes out, but since GT5 took almost 7 years, GT6 will probably take another 7 at least if they continue their lazyness.
7. It's not just physics and graphics, Sound and tuning is important as well. And Forza is way ahead when it comes to that.
8. GT5 is a great game, but when you think about all those years of development it's just not good enough.
9. This isn't the beginning of GT, it's the end...
10. This is just dumb because FM4 will crush it anyways
xdlugia1 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 Here you go calling them lazy. I already explained to you why their development took so long.
on #7 physics and graphics is the core of a simulator. Without the physics, the tuning wouldn't be accurate at all. And about the sounds, both fm3 and GT5 isn't 100% sound quality by a long shot. FM3 may sounds better but wouldn't be exactly. Both developers needs this improvement.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 Forza on #8 at least you said something positive finally. But it seems like not matter how the future of the GT series do weather it's good or not you want them to fail.
on #9 PD made about close (if not) a billion from GT5 prologue, GTPSP, GT5. They're not coming to an end. Like i've said it's just the beginning.
#10 There you go again trying to sound like a fanboy. We haven't even seen the full details of FM4 yet. And you're bashing GT.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@whatnow1204 I never said there wasn't a huge improvement from FM3 to FM4, I said there wasn't a huge improvement from FM2 to FM3. FM4 is a major upgrade, the few spots people were disapointed in FM3 is filled in the next one. Watch the leaked trailer (and it says real in-game footage), it easily beats any other game.
And actually ALL FM3 cars have realistic sound, search something something like "FM3 real life sound" or something like that. And then listen to your GT5, well.... Yeah.....
xdlugia1 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 I already compared the sounds.
Why don't you compare GT5 sounds? Some of the cars from GT5 were improved. check this out GT prologue: /watch?v=dTGF6DQdiOg
GT5: /watch?v=0Gtk-Nd0mdM (skip at 0:10)
real life: /watch?v=hxguV7OpokE&feature=related
And you think all of the cars are way off. This shows you that GT5 has improved on some of the engine sounds. Stop reading fanboy comments.
FM3 may sound realistic but it doesn't mean it's 100% accurate either especially on all cars.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 Of course people were disappointed in some spots of FM3. Similar to GT5. And now you said it's filled in the next one. What makes you think GT6 won't be improved in some spots? You said it yourself that GT is the end. You have high doubts for GT. It's really funny that you haven't even played the game yet. All they said there's more manufactures. And some of the features i see in FM4 is from other titles.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@whatnow1204 Hey listen up! The reason why GT will be beaten by Forza soon as the leading console sim is because GT5 flopped the series. Yup, you heard me, and that's a fact actually. You know TopGear? They was planning to work with GT, that's why the test track and stuff is included, but when it flopped after release it was too embarrassing to work with them. That's why they decided to work with Forza instead. Millions of TopGear fans will buy Forza for TopGear content and already that's enough
xdlugia1 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 haha Dude what have you've been smoking on? You really like to give out false statements don't you. GT5 never flopped even the critics didn't give the game a bad review 10/10 physics 10/10 visuals. And yes I watches top gear. TopGear signed a contract with Microsoft in September of last year before GT5 came out. Andy William the producer and the creation of the Stig he got a bit frustrated because PD taken out the Stig. GT5 never flopped.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@whatnow1204 And well... Most critics didn't give them 10/10 on visuals and physics. Most because the rubber ball incident rolls and lack of visual damage and HD on standard cars. It was more like 8-9/10
xdlugia1 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 No the physics were 10/10. Like i've said critics have their opinion like anybody else. You say 8-9/10 rating and you call that a flop.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 PD didn't just have TopGear on their hands. Red Bull, Nascar, FIA, Sienna Italy etc. These elements were PD plans but they didn't have time finishing. Porsches wasn't implemented because they signed a contract also with MS. You remember all of those comments I gave you right? Some of these features PD had to be taken out because of the release. PD production budget was over $60 million. These companies go where the $ signs is at dude. They can care less wether a game flops or not.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 And you say TopGear is too embarrassed work with them which is a lie. PD didn't have enough dealings with TopGear.
Lets say if FM4 fails. I'm sure you'll be disappointed, but i'm sure you'll give FM a chance for their next title hoping the better. If it's GT series you're not regardless because you hate the GT series. There's many fans out that may criticize GT and still play it, only because they care about their favorite franchise. And they still have hopes for their future.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@whatnow1204 If Forza 4 failed I would give em a chance yes since I'm an Xbox fan(boy), but the people who got both consoles or isn't a big fan of the franchise may not care about it anymore.
Actually PD had lot's of time finishing it, but they was not very effective. And as you say, companies like those go after the moneys, they knew a lot of people are fans of GT, they knew they would get a lot of sales anyway, just like the drymilked Call of Duty.
xdlugia1 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 No PD had time finishing parts in certain areas but not all. Kaz's vision of the Gran Turismo series were too high for the ps3's capabilities. They suffered mostly with hardware issues which one of them were the lack of memory. There were other features such as youtube exports, headcam, etc which gave these memory issues. Those were also taken out. Headcam only featured in Arcade mode. These are some of the reasons why the development took some time.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@whatnow1204 It was a flop because it took 7 damn years!! And if Blu-Rays has such a high memory, can't they just use 2 discs?
xdlugia1 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 There you go again twisting words. You're the one calling the game a flop no one else just you. I guess you know nothing about computers. Blu Rays has nothing to do with memory. You read all of the comments; I already explained to you about about the development time.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@whatnow1204 Didn't you know that Blu-Rays had higher memory than DVDs? It's one reason that Mass Effect 2 on Xbox has 2 discs while on PS3 it has 1.
BTW head over to IGN to see the new photos of Forza 4. I think you're gonna like em.
xdlugia1 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 No you've mistaken; blu rays hold more data capacity than DVDs. Memory and data are two different things.
Yea I've seen FM4 pics. They need improvement on the textures. The cars doesn't look photo realistic.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 No car in GT5 takes a week to become premium. They have to test the performance of the vehicle, damage deformation, compress the engine sounds which is why most of you cars sounds like vaccum cleaners, render all of the models and export them into meshes. And you say that only takes a week. You have no idea what you're talking about.
And don't think all of the engine sounds is inaccurate either. Some of the car's engine has improved slightly. The lexus isf, mercedes sl65, nissan 370.
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@xdlugia1 And I wasn't trying to spam you. Just giving you facts that you don't nothing about GT5
whatnow1204 9 months ago
@whatnow1204 1. 9 comments is called spam, or a little desperate
2. Xbox 360 also supports 1080p, Microsoft says it, and it even says so in the setup on my console!
3. If they are focusing at one car at the time it should be much earlier finished than a week, and specially when GT5 didn't focus on everything you mentioned like damage and engine sound.
4. FM3 was Turn10's first try with cockpit view
5. I was talking about Shift 2 not 1...