Stage 2 GTI vs EF hatch LS Vtec

[AmacSTO92337]

lmfao the ef was so fast his hoos was bout to pop up lol

[Tupples1]

slow as fuck

[JDMvtec6793]

Might help the civic to close the hood next time. haha. oh and a new clutch would help also :)

[beaudiggler]

lol close that hood

[guitjimi65]

civic clutch is slipping baddly fail.

[MattHutzell]

Nice Civic yo. 

[drtyeurodub]

hood popped for "moar horsep0wer bro" ......how'd that workout for ya? haha

[XCR600MAN]

Your hood was open lad. Lucky with speeds like that she didnt fly open...

[skullbasher23]

nice race and video lol, and tell that civic to lower his hood cuz he is literally slower becuase of that and if he can hit topseed of 130, with the hood open like that, it will probably have hard time getting over 115

[AlexPGunn]

hood on that civic was open....

[77Snaggs]

stage 2 is generally full exhaust, intake, intercooler...I.E all the bolt-ons...Also, you forget to mention that your torque is more than double his probably.

[KARsandJTsUSERNAME]

that hatch sounds amazing.

[TheJordanGraff]

that would suck if his latch let go on the hood.....

[civicef990]

sounded more like 165whp and no exhaust

[Tupples1]

slow ass hondas

[AdamGuba86]

That's ED not EF...

[mike060910]

was that the same hatch that had the type r?

[sranjesuper]

The hatch sounds like my beard trimmer converted from electric to 2 stroke 0.3L engine

[cmnman2327]

@sranjesuper you cant even hear the hatch

[RaudiAudiT]

@sranjesuper

every time i shave Im going to think of this and agree lol

[AP2suzukablue]

@sranjesuper lmao

[vdubdlb66]

2 vw vs honda videos in a row, both hondas sound like complete shit and are so fucking loud u cant even hear yourself think and both hondas had the hoods popped. am im missing something? is that what were supposed to do now ride around with the hood popped? no wonder people are starting to hate everyone in the car scene because, because of ricers that ride around with the hood popped going BBWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[BanditAuron]

Close your hood man. lol

[kawasaki645]

if that hatch had 215whp it woulda been spinnin the tires an leavin ur weak ass gti in the dust, yes i can do that math, 215whp @2000lbs is alot more hp that 3000lbs at 242, you do the math buddy

[lhungryhappysleepy]

might wanna latch that hood down before you have a shattered windshield !

[IllTakeyoufromadig]

open hoods = broken windshields

[MIKEtheBEST1231]

u left ur hood open!

[livefreeordie42017]

dude your hood isnt closed all the way ...smart

[MrKoolaidman909]

DAMN...that LS V is fucking fast...dat shit has no lag in the pick up at all...looks and sounds nicely built...you got my props bro...my stock low mile D15b with ZC built head / port n polished block and DUAL POINT fuel injected intake manifold 100% open throttle also with a rebuilt single cam si tranny takes A1's and B1's tegs all day...they can't ever hang...but never ran an LS V before...I guess this is what I'd be up against...

[konholio2]

no way that LS is 215 WHP. The B16B engine is a marvel of the engine tuning and produces like 150 whp. That engine is giving about 100 WHP stock. You can not convince me that this shmuck built a heavy duty racing engine for his daily car. Its not more than 200 at the cranckshaft.

[99g07p]

Civic sounds like my lawnmower when something gets caught inside of it. GTI FTMFW.

[joeyvillan]

dude your hood is fucked up

[Fittest224]

What an idiot let's rice oh I forgot to close my hood.... Shame this is the reason Honda looks bad idiot drivers

[chillinwitdavillin]

that ef had the hood open yo

[adamra187]

The hood has hood spacers on it allowing the engine compartment to expel heat better.

It's been done for years but seems to be on the rise again.

[trapped45]

@adamra187 But wouldn't that create more drag having it open from the front end like that? Not trying to start anything, yet just seeking clarification to the effectiveness of spacers being used at the front of the bonnet. I'm old lol....and in my time, they were used at the rear, as opposed to the front

[adamra187]

@trapped45 They are on the rear but I bet it doesn't close properly because of them or who knows maybe he installed them in a set of 4 instead of 2... haha The front hood latch on these Civic's was pretty funky to begin with I remember spending time just trying to close it without spacers.

[trapped45]

@adamra187 LOL Yeah! That may explain it :P Thank you :)

[CalixBay]

Hood is open

[kermitxx00]

Clean As FUCK!! EF

-JDM A'F

[6267737]

i like the ef strong

[syndicate876]

damn.. cleannnnnnnnnnn ef bro!

[MrKha703]

DID ANY BODY SEE THAT HOOD BOUT TO POP OPEN LOL

[Tupples1]

slow ass honda

[MrStraightfaded]

damnnn been forever since ive seen an ef on here.

[Mustang4lyfe91]

CLuttccchhhhh clutttchhhhhhh clutttccchhhhhhh GET A PUCK ONE.

[Versusracincg1]

* Hondas

[Versusracincg1]

Sick ef bond all day Gti junk

[rjetta8v]

lol. Dont forget to close that hood!

[thats1badEF]

@Randum311 why waste your time?? That civic stayed door to door with him til the end.

Nice race by the way!!

[mazeyaj]

vtec kicks so hard that the hood cannot close flush.

[Randum311]

Why waste your time on that civic...but good results!

[AudiR8Lemans]

My GTI at the time only had an intake, downpipe and a tune, that means stage 2. Not a stage 2 turbo. And yeah the Honda is a 2,000 lb gutted EF hatch making 215 whp against my full interior 3,000 lb GTI making 242 whp

Do the math, the Honda owner is a friend of mine and his car is fast

[xXMODZzTotorialz]

@AudiR8Lemans ef hatch gutted is about 1400lbs

[allmotorkris]

@xXMODZzTotorialz 1400 no. gutted missing the engine, transmission, and driver maybe

[gibbah]

@AudiR8Lemans doesn't look like a gutted EF, i can see the rear seats.

[AudiR8Lemans]

@gibbah he wasnt gutted at the time

[sharpshot411]

@AudiR8Lemans

He isnt making 215whp either .... 

[felixrules100]

@gibbah a back seat dosen't make a difrence...

[TheJordanGraff]

@gibbah you can have the rear seats and still be gutted dude

[Servicemember80]

@TheJordanGraff lol do you even know what gutted is? A gutted EF weighs around 1500-1600lbs and has door skins, no dash, no anything inside except for drivers seat - steering column and gauges - that is a street hatch and even if he removed the 15lbs for the rear seats and plastic its not much to talk about....plus he had a passenger...big NO NO for NA hondas when a passenger is like 10% weight addition lol

[TheJordanGraff]

@Servicemember80 of course I do you tard.... And you would have a dash just maybe a carbon one? Door skin WTF? like the panels? I ripped mine out all i have left is the dash and seats..... Passenger aint no thang lol I mean if you got a K series like moi monsieur!

[Servicemember80]

@TheJordanGraff No - you would not have a dash - you would have Gauges mounted on the steering column - how many gutted hatches have you built? Zero? Trust - we built a CRVTEC in 2002 kid - ran high 11's all motor with about 210-215whp - EG body - gutted - no dash - door skins as in the frame inside the door was gone and the window was held up - no roll down...door skin like just the thin sheet metal on the outside. Anyway - the car was around 1700-1800lbs maybe...didnt cut the floor board

[TheJordanGraff]

@Servicemember80 you sir are an idiot if you think that having a dash suddenly means my car isn't gutted!

[Servicemember80]

@TheJordanGraff The dash itself is 75lbs not including the accessories/heater core/stereo/ etc...it makes a huge difference...one day when you build a race car and take out a fully trimmed dash with airbags and wiring youll see....youll probably stick to keyboard racing though

[TheJordanGraff]

@Servicemember80 no my 90 EF hatch is more than light enough! I actually put the dash back in because it was lighter than my aluminum dash by 3 pounds! and on the track it makes all the diff

[drtyeurodub]

@Servicemember80 both cars had passengers.

[Servicemember80]

@drtyeurodub I understand that from the guy shooting the video - my point was an extra passenger will not effect a 3000lb+ car with a turbo on it vs. a 2000lb hatch with a naturally aspirated torqueless wonder powering it....civics thrive on weight savings because they arent making tons of torque....less weight...better acceleration...at that weight 60lbs is about a tenth so a normal guy will add 3 tenths easily....thats a huge difference for an small cube NA car to make up

[TheJordanGraff]

@Servicemember80 LS V-tec is a torque monster! B18B1's are torquey like all hell

[Servicemember80]

@TheJordanGraff You must be joking....torque monsters huh? You realize CRVTECs, F20Bs, F20Cs and H22s and H23s make more torque right? And I wouldnt call ANY of those motors "torque monsters"....Honda builds big bore, short stroke motors that love to rev - that configuration is not about torque - its about high revs and hp ...torque monster lol...thats funny...a boosted benz making 800ftlbs of torque is a "torque monster"...an LSV making 160 or even 170ft lbs is NOT a torque monster lol

[TheJordanGraff]

@Servicemember80 F20C's have no torque! lmao and yeah im serious everyone knows B20Vtec's are only good for boosting anyways!

[Servicemember80]

@TheJordanGraff Sigh your hopeless - F20Cs make more torque than LSVTECs out of the box - research some dynos or even just use common sense....a 240hp motor vs a 165hp motor....the the F20C having way more agressive cams from the get go....you would have to run aftermarket cams to be anywhere near an F20C's torque numbers plus add compression etc...this is basic Honda 101 bro? Have you ever built a Honda motor before? Been to a dyno? Read torque plots and understand the lines? Seriously...

[TheJordanGraff]

@Servicemember80 Built countless buds look im not gunna sit here and argue with you because your trying to talk about an engine that was built to rev to the sky in a RWD platform and an engine that is actually a hodge podge of 2 diff engines in a frontwheel platform soo yeah this is pointless

[Servicemember80]

@TheJordanGraff Countless builds and yet you think a motor cares whether its in a RWD or FWD car? lol GTFO the motor doesnt know or care what its in....a LSV is a shitty motor PERIOD....the F20C kicks the crap out of it stock to stock...boosted? no contest - F20C again...you want a B series trans? Build an F/H motor and kick the crap out of Bs...a fully built H has already gone DEEP into the 10s NA....boosted it went high 8's back in 99/00 ....was the first 4cyl H motor into the 8's..not a B

[TheJordanGraff]

@Servicemember80 I guess you didnt read what I said.. or at least not properly lol anywho I guess the next thing you're going to say is that my sisters Turbo D16 is a stupid pointless build right?

[Servicemember80]

@TheJordanGraff What is the point of your avg D series turbo build - money? Eventually you want more power - eventually you hit a wall with flow...aka cubes...so youll want a larger motor and then you will have to build that too...so why waste time and money on a build your gonna ditch later? Just start with the good stuff first...besides a good street turbo Honda needs a smaller turbo...imagine how fast an F20B could spool up a GT30R vs a D16....way more usable torque and much more overall pwr

[TheJordanGraff]

@Servicemember80 Again its my sisters car 91 SI D16 has a Y1 tranny and a T3/T4 turbo car puts roughly 220 WHP which according to her is more than enough for a girl....

[Servicemember80]

@TheJordanGraff Turbo is too big - a stock D16 would spool better and be faster overall with a straight T3 Super 60...thats a budget build to me though - because after taking all that time to go turbo 400whp should be a minimum target...you can do that with a stock GSR motor...220 is why bother terriotry unless your super broke for a better turbo setup...if your gonna tear something down and build it - minimum 600whp...for a street car you want quick spool - a big motor spools faster H25 =)

[TheJordanGraff]

@Servicemember80 turbo actually spools quite quickly... that being said though she's 16.... so I don't see her putting a crap tonne of money into her car not when up here in Canada we have 6 monthes of snow and therefore she has a winter beater too (98 Accord) and she works part time and goes to school.... Her Bride Gias Low Max's took her a month and change to save for...

[foxrider120]

@TheJordanGraff actuall b20/vtecs are sketchy to boost because oh how thin the walls are and i wouldnt argue with servicemember80 cuz everything he says is right on the dime. know your shit before you come on youtube trying to act like billy bad ass or you'll get embarrased...by the way servicemember80 thank god we got people like you to step up and actually say something.

[TheJordanGraff]

@foxrider120 B20 V-Tec's sure seem to be popular round here for boosting..... My dad's is putting quite a bit of power 600+ and hasn't actually been torn apart since its initial buil up 3 years ago.....

[Servicemember80]

@foxrider120 Thanks - these kids make me laugh - been around Hondas since 95 - noobs are always good for laughs - amazing BS they think they know lol....LSV torque monster!!!! lol...they ride in a B16 110ftlbs and suddenly 140-150ftlbs is MONSTER lol....H2B kids...dont waste your money on B series crap anymore - build an H or an F and go faster

[Servicemember80]

@foxrider120 Thanks =) Just trying to save kids the headaches....when they build this D series turbo they will see how crappy the D series trans are for street use and torque steer...then they will realize the gearing and equal length halfshafts on B series trans make them better candidates for their setup...yes they are more money...but ultimately if you build it right the first time you save money overall...and time/hassle

[MBL0CKG]

@AudiR8Lemans hp dont mean shit its all about torque

[Servicemember80]

@MBL0CKG what do you think hp is chief? Torque is a twisting force - hp is how fast the twist happens....the faster the twist - the faster the car....people dont say...gee you know...id rather have 1000ftlbs and 20hp vs 1000hp and 20ft lbs of torque.....in a car...the hp is what you want...if your smashing metal....take the torque

[TheJordanGraff]

@MBL0CKG proper gearing is more important than torque or HP numbers!

[JDCM]

@AudiR8Lemans Sorry man, but i can honestly tell thats not a 215whp b series.

[507karry]

vtac hit so hard the hood popped

[allmotorEm1]

Fuck gti's those cars are for bitches..clean ass ef keeping up w a stage 2 Turbo that's sad for the gti..but that's what Honda's do ppl hate cuz they move and make their expensive cars look like shit

[wakeinthecity9]

@allmotorEm1 lol. expensive cars?

[sctflasher379]

Yea u lost buddy lol

[papakaladoophirseh]

is his hood unlatched??

[yourowngod1]

mad vtec lol

[Camjeet]

hoods open bro lol...

[jdmjunkiesef2]

What kind of rims are on the hatch??

[MBL0CKG]

@jdmjunkiesef2 track r



[slashfan7777]

RRRRIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEE­!!!!!!!!!!!

[chasecolston]

whats up with you racing civics with their hoods half popped? lol

[IMakeItRain60]

the EF needs to be pounded



[rayzian]

damn thats a clean EF... sounds like his clutch started slipping

[dboytesoro]

The hood's about to fly up, cover your sight and boom...dead

[AudiR8Lemans]

@choyleefutkid1

stage 2 means having a tune and intake/downpipe on the car

[mattmonte1025]

stage 2 meaning ur gti is shit ass slow and barely cud beat tht honda

[Mustang4lyfe91]

@mattmonte1025 an ls vtec ef weighs nothing under 2000lbs. Mine put 182whp to the road and i was raping 4.2 a6 audis lmao...Cars are no joke.

[vaner1995]

@AudiR8Lemans nice rice 8D.. i have a honda 89 hatchback 1.5 with intake played my causin with his 2002 jetta with a 2.0 with intake and it was on freeway my hatch took off fast by like 4 cars but then in long run he passed me :) but thats cool nice video men.. do you by anyhow know what type of red that hatchback is?

[WheelChairBndit]

@vaner1995 lol the 2.0 only has about 110 hp. it would be a much different story if he had the 1.8t. he would've "been and gone." but the 89 civic is probably my favorite civic. don't get rid of it ;) it's probably factory red, or repainted since it's 20 years old

[vaner1995]

@WheelChairBndit ok thenks and yeahp the 1.8 has a fast strong engine.. and i wont get rid of it spendt over have a year looking for my hatchback and i love it :)

[WheelChairBndit]

@vaner1995 the 91 si is pretty fast too. i raced one about three weeks ago and it can definitely keep up with a new civic (in a straight line). as far as cornering, the old hatchback should be way better since its so small. it sounded just like a cr250 lol.

[MaddDogg81]

hood couldn't clear the engine on the EF?. Anyway mu turbo RSX could probably beat taht GTI

[Servicemember80]

@MaddDogg81 Probably? If it didnt destroy this GTi at this tune I would ask for your money back - most turbo RSXs are 450-500whp+ and run 11s...this GTi is probably 13s at best --- huge difference

[MaddDogg81]

@Servicemember80 ok fine I'd smoke it. I'm on about 6.5psi getting aobut 260whp

[noriceformeplz]

for a na 1.8 that civic held in well against a turbo car

[90ED6LSV]

hood is open because is just turned on the NAWZ

[commanderdark]

his hood looks like it wants to fly up haha

[justrodney192]

damn.. how did you make it sound like this haha nice one!!! btw your hood is open bro lol

[JettaGli08]

Like always lol

[559accordcd5]

nice 

[BlackbirdGLI]

nice blender

[skatezero1324]

apparently having a open hood and a loud board game buzzer sounding exhaust makes you faster LOL

[90ED6LSV]

@skatezero1324 if anything its slower, might have won with it closed!

[papayspeanut]

How do you like your gti? I have a z and I want my gti back :(

[Servicemember80]

@papayspeanut Get an S2000 - turbo it and smash all the Zs and GTi's lol

[thatdopemango2]

the guy looks like drama from rob and big

[d15bvteKKK]

fow real do the hood looked like it was talkin to you sayin slow down slow down!!!

[AlaVergutsss87]

Hooooood!!!!

[Oneill240Si]

I think his hood was about to fly open, good thing you guys stopped lol

[xxnissansilviaxx]

civic sounds amazing

[AudiR8Lemans]

@xxnissansilviaxx He is a friend of mine, he was running open headers at the time.

It does sound good.

[supermaniac5]

@AudiR8Lemans thats why the vw pased, you dont have any top end with open headers goofball

[Servicemember80]

@supermaniac5 lol STFU --- do you even know what open headers do? Easily knock a few tenths off - on the dyno they add strong mid range bump -- no power loss up top --- smoking crack if you think the rob power anywhere

[kraigmak721]

@AudiR8Lemans

LoL, he was also running open hood

[Ajmartinez95]

@AudiR8Lemans dont gti's come boosted?

[supercoolguyy1]

@xxnissansilviaxx That was vtec orgasm!!!

[Velezzzz11191]

wow and how much lighter is the honda than the mkv? lol smh..

mkv FTW

[AudiR8Lemans]

Thanks man, and I will

[AudiR8Lemans]

@CodeB4US10.

[cold2568]

is it a new thing that hondas have to race with their hoods open

[iMaGiKDoTs]

@cold2568 is it a new thing people are dicks on youtube?... nope

[bakerhasadethwish33o]

vw > honda

[Servicemember80]

@bakerhasadethwish33o This one made me laugh out loud lol....stock block S2K just went 9.5@147 lol....keep dreaming

[CodeB4US10]

Good quality video. Keep'em coming.