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  • basically before and during a quick stop should we not use the throttle after we have released the throttle?

  • @dirtydogdogness wait, i remember! we are suppose to reach 15 mph before we perform the quick stop

  • What does 'pulling the clutch in' mean? Is that like putting it in neutral?

  • @jaco5187 literally pull the clutch lever in so the bike isnt being powered by the engine, its not putting it in neutral gear as such but essentially is neutral as it just disconnects the engine from the bike when you pull in the clutch

  • @Henry1993bc So it's the same thing as pushing the clutch pedal in a car then. I understand. Thanks...

  • @jaco5187 yeah, its all the same principle, just using different limbs which gets confusing sometimes

  • @Henry1993bc In a car with a manual transmission, you can return to neutral from any gear. Can you do that on a bike or do you have to downshift through all the gears first before returning to neutral?

  • @jaco5187 neutral is between 1st and 2nd gear so yes

  • Got another tip when overtaking fools in cars check there side mirror to see if there looking at you if not chances are fool in car hasnt seen you.and will pull straight out in front of you.

  • your voice sounds like "ifuck this i wanna go home"

  • omg dude we got same kind of bike...hahahah...is that a suzuki boulevard S40...?

  • you also remember to shoulder check when and. be ready to dart out if you feel you re gonna get rear ended.

  • Is it me or does he sound like Mannie of Ice Age?

  • @geekzsquad1 Your right, he does sound like Mannie. Never noticed that before. Won't beable to take these seriously anymore.LOL

  • @geekzsquad1 lol ye, Ray Romano!

  • If you usually just use this or that brake, in an emergency you will find you just use this or that brake and end up not getting stopped in time. Practice the right way, head and eyes up look where you want the bike to go, square (straighten)the handle bars , roll off the throttle, pull in the clutch and apply both brakes fully without locking either one. It takes more practice than you think.

  • I personally use my back break for the main part and only use the frost if breaking from high speed. It's a pretty bad habbit but ive been riding bikes in one form or another for 25 years so it works for me. Emergency i'll use front aswell.

  • LOL, WTF was that? You call that emergency braking?

  • @tacticalbarrage Why doesn't your bike have a kill switch?

  • why do you drive with Jeans, Sportshoes??? why don't you wear lether clothes?

    Protective clothing is necessary for riding a motorbike...

  • @derMulk would you wear leathers riding a bicycle? ive gone 35+ on a skateboard

  • I'm finally finishing off my course this weekend! I took it back in June. I ended up locking my front wheel and not letting go. several weeks in a cast and 2 months of solid work later, i can finally finish the course. Thanks for these videos, they are a great refresher!

  • After watching this video im gunna go 190 and stop like that!!!!!!!!

  • i have a questionb when you say pull in the clutch why do you need to do that?

  • @xXSiLeNtOpTiCsXx You have to do that to disable the engin power, is easyer to stop if engin is not creating any torque.

  • you have to pull in the clutch to stop?

  • @Elect4Sure

    Yes, you need to pull in the clutch. Here's why. First, if you don't, the engine will quit and the rear wheel may lock up. Better way - Pull in the clutch, and then when you are almost stopped, you want to be in 1st gear. If you've emergency braked, some 4 wheeler, an 18 wheeler, or something in between might be behind you not stopping. You want to be in 1st gear ready to move out of the way into a safe(r) spot.

  • Front brake provides 70 % stopping power of a motorcycle. You want to practice using more front break than rear, but try balance between the front and rear brakes when you stop.

  • You don't use your rear brakes as your primary to stop because "street" bikes have a small rear brake disc and the front have large brake pads...to stop(in the case of brakes) use the front mainly and a gradual amount of the rear brake...too much rear brake will lock the rear up and make you low-side(slide).

    Ride safe

  • @DynastyPercussion u r right my friend ur front brake controls 70% of ur stopping power but in a emergency situation u have to be able to use both front and back brakes to stop without locking them up that y u go to a empty parking lot and practice if not when u have to do this u will lock it up and low-side or u will lock it up and then realese ur back brake which will make u tumble good luck all and ride safe

  • foxdude92 you need to use your front brake all the time, including in the dirt. That is where most of your stopping power is. 7 years? Really? Idiot!

  • who am I to try and correct you, but this may work at 15mph.. at a real world speed, you want to release the throttle, gear down to help you stop as the engine struggles to slow the revs down, (definitely dont hold the clutch in) go hard (without locking) on the front brake and help correct (only) with the rear brake. the first foot to hit the ground would be the right, as you'd want to put the bike into neutral.

  • haha that guy saying to keep the clutch in ur a fool lol did u hit ur head when u did this urself

  • In emergency situations you will stop quicker with the clutch in because the engine will keep trying to oppose the brakes.

  • @jalit Plus, you can downshift to first ready to move out of the way of the truck skidding behind you.

  • @oldNavyJZ Yes but don't let the clutch out.

  • Emergancy stop comes in 5 sections i belive,

    1. release throttle.

    2. front break

    3. rear break

    4 n 5 put ur leg down to hold the bike up as ur pulling the clutch.. who cares if you stall it because of pulling the clutch to late ur bioke is goinnowhere because of the breaks r on!

  • THANK YOU

  • lol this video is WRONG dont listen to it

    1. Release Throttle

    2. Apply Front Break

    3. Apply Rear Brake

    you do not apply clutch untill the bike has stopped! reason is you will slow down alot quicker because the engine will be used as a break as your about to put ur left leg out pull the clutch in!.

    1, pulling the clutch in to soon is a fail its a major because they will class you as not having your bike under control

    2. if you stoll it? its a minor!!! and i think i would rather have that ! :)

  • @karl897 I think what the video means is to apply clutch and to shift down because of a potential car coming behind you. For example, say you break and you still have the bike in 5 gear, a trailer is coming behind you and wasnt able to break as fast. They want you to be able to speed off if that trailer is coming at you.

  • thats where they will do a emergancy stop aswell tho thats why there is a travling distance! if your on a bike you have a engine brake aswell as your brakes to be able to stop quickly you need to use the engine break but you cant if the clutch is in and plus you dont have time to drop gears of your doing a emergancy stop!

  • @Karl897

    Don't listen to this guys comment. It's wrong, and it'll get you killed.

  • @karl897

    It's like in baseball, where the 1st baseman gets the ball and then sits on it watching the guy on third run home. The play is not over.

    The point is, just because YOU stopped, doesn't mean the guy behind you stopped. You need to be in first ready to move out of the way, not trying to restart your bike.

  • Don't forget to downshift if you're not already in 1st! Otherwise it's much harder to get moving again, especially if you got a cager racing towards you who's oblivious to your stop.

  • not your best video, for shame

  • You say to apply both brakes evenly and firmly. This is almost certain to result in the rear brake locking. On cruisers, only about 25% of the braking comes from the rear. On sport bikes, maybe close to zero

    About the pressure you use lightly with the big toe should be enough.

    It won't show up at 15 mph as there really isn't enough time for the load to transfer from that speed.

    Send me a private message for more info. (I"m not into flaming.)

  • the reason you put your left foot down is that you should always cover the back brake at all times .

  • This video like all your others are great. My wife just got her motorcycle learners permit, and she will be watching all of your videos.  They are great refreshers for more experienced riders, so I too will be subscribing and watching them all. Thanks for the great videos.

  • put your left foot first...  good tip!

  • Haha Funny you said that cause it did happen and thats exactly what I did....not cause i knew it but i just kinda had a weird like panic situation when it just happend and when it happens i just keep doing it lol....tiral and error type stuff i guess..... I have found my self more and more stoping like this and just going to Neutral an then starting agian mostly cause shifting is still new to me in general so im very skiddish thanks agian for all the help you have given me

  • What if you have to stop from like 2nd or 3rd gear for example What exactly do you do to stop from that??

  • Close the throttle, apply both breaks without locking them up, as you slow down pull in the clutch. You have to pull in the clutch last at higher gear panic stops because pulling the clutch would cause you to free wheel, which means no engine braking. Once you come to a complete stop put your left foot down first (don't ask me why), look at the back from the right side, put right foot down and shift to neutral with your left foot so that you can finally let go of the clutch.

  • Hey thanks I tried it and it worked perfetly........Purposely stoping in 2nd was kinda hard considering i just kept wanting to go to first =P ....but I guess thats a good thing

  • That's your motorcycle instict telling you that you need to shift to first. But when you practice this more and more, you won't feel the urge to go to 1st anymore. By the way, sometimes I lock my rear wheels up because I press too hard on the brakes during panic stops. If this happens, you should let go quickly to make the tire roll again and reapply the brakes with less force. This also takes practice but is really handy in extreme panic situations.

  • Be careful with those rear brake lockups. I was always taught to NOT release the rear wheel in a lockup situation, but to continue to put pressure on it until you come to a complete stop. This is to prevent high-side type of situations. It can get pretty ugly when the rear wheel suddenly and violently gains traction again.

    However, for a front wheel lock, that's exactly what you do: release the brakes and immediately reapply with less force.

  • Yep, locked my rear wheel before a couple of times. That's what I did. I was told to just ride it and control the handlebars and it worked fine. Pretty scary though.

    As for the front wheel locking, that has never happened to me. I guess it takes more reflexes to counter front wheel lock-ups. By the way, have you ever locked your front wheel? Will it result in a stoppie?

    I hate hard braking coz it scares the sh*t out of me, but sometimes you have no choice.

  • On the road, I actually use swerving way more than emergency braking, mostly because there's a lot of traffic here and everyone follows too closely. Swerve + horn + angry fist usually does enough. And just add moderate braking as necessary. But 9 times out of 10, you can tell the cager is going to do something dumb in advance, if you're paying attention.

    I practice quick stops in parking lots, and at stop signs (when there's no one behind me). Not every time, but enough to keep my skills up

  • Ahh..I see. Freeways are good here where I stay. What's irritating is city driving because of all the traffic. Even cars split lanes so it's kind of difficult to keep on swerving. I usually keep a safe distance. I don't usually use panic braking because I have been at a safe distance so far (knock on wood). I just feel that I need to practice more for when the opportunity arises. No parking lots available where I live too. People park at roads or have pay parking which sucks.

  • @MAREMthenME Locking the front wheel will result in a slide, the wheel locks up and it will just slide to it's side. When doing a stoppie you press slowly press the front brake but still do it hard till you press it completely. That way the weight gets a change to goto the front of the bike which will make it do a stoppie. Correct me if i'm wrong.

  • @MAREMthenME I think mostly people either really grab the front brake and the bike will highside you or result in a stoppie, or people try to ride it out and that will also result in a crash. If you lock it, ease off the front brake for a bit and apply again. If the rear lock, yes, ride it out, releasing it will jerk the bike and you are likely to crash as well usually high side and the now moving wheel pushing the back of the bike forward.

    Done both and fortunately didn't crash.

  • ive been riding for about 2 years now, i saw some videos where a biker its going fast and suddenly the handlebars starts shaking or moving crazy, what happens there? why is that

  • This is called a tank slap. It is where the front wheel gets off balance or something makes it turn sharply(mainly when doing wheelies) but can happen when riding if you hit something. Then when that happens you just either have to A) lay it down and hope for the best. or B) hang like hell, lay off the gas and use the back break slightly till you gain control and hope for the best. Either way I hope I never have to deal with it bro.

  • @MAREMthenME I don't really recommend releasing the rear brake once the wheel locks. It could result in a high-side. Front wheel that's a different story and you do want to ease off and reapply.

  • the part about the clutch is wrong. Test breaking with clutch disengaged and engaged and you will discover you break faster with clutch disengaged.

    Remember the motor is what moves the bike forward, not what brakes it. The motor will only oppose the breaking force.

  • @kriptonis This is true, especially in high gear. And during an emergency brake you won't have the time to downshift, otherwise it's not an emergency brake. Plus, the rev up the engine suffers when downshifting will jerk the bike forward, countering the braking power. Don't know why people are giving you such a hard time about this, I guess everybody hears the same so they think it's true.

  • lmfao the same thing as in the video and then downshift, atleast thats how i would do it(being a relatively new rider)

  • I've road dirt bikes for about 7 years now and next week im getting my first street legal bike, a Yamaha Fz1. When you say pull in both brakes? Really? I thought front brake sends you flying forward? I only know the front brake as a OH SH*T when i notice im not going to make it up a hill. Any replies would be nice i need to learn how to stop it =P

  • i always use the back slightly before the front and i also dont put more pressure on the front than the back. my fisrt crash was because i pulled the front brake thinking that it was the back (because of my push bike) anyway my friend wasnt best pleased

  • I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING!! idk.. if anybody tells you can you tell me?

    ~colt

  • i've been watching a couple videos on youtube about bikes, and so far, the concensus is that your front brakes are your main brakes and rear brakes do alot less and pretty much help you stop, rather than actually stop you.

  • front brakes provide 70% of your stopping power and rear brakes provide only 30% of your stopping power

  • you must pull that front brake in a controlled and smooth manner and you wont flip....most of your braking power will come from your front wheel because of weight transferring to the front wheel resulting in more grip...just remember be smooth and that will keep you safe

  • You definitely need to know how to use your front brake on street bikes. Just go to an empty lot and test them for yourself. You will see it takes much much longer to stop if you just use your rear brake.

  • @Foxdude92 normaly its a 30:70 when you break 30 % back break 70 % front break :)

  • @Foxdude92 Front brake sending you flying forward? bwahahaha, you'll learn to love the brake when you learn to ride a streetbike.

  • @handsomebassman but its true, if you are going faster and you use your front brake hard, you`ll lock your front tire and then you`ll be kissing the ground

  • @Foxdude92 Front brake provides 2/3 of braking power. I only use my back brake when I am coming up slowly to a stop. Others rely only on their rear brake. In I usually only use front brake. In extreme situations, to stop on a dime...I have had to use front brake only, unfortunately this causes you to do a stoppie, this has saved me on 3 different occasions! Practice using front brake going different speeds. Use your body to compensate for the upward motion of bike. Keep your body centered!!!

  • @Foxdude92 Front brake provides 2/3 of braking power. I only use my back brake when I am coming up slowly to a stop. Others rely only on their rear brake. I usually only use front brake. In extreme situations, to stop on a dime...I have had to use front brake only, unfortunately this causes you to do a stoppie, this has saved me on 3 different occasions! Practice using front brake going different speeds. Use your body to compensate for the upward motion of bike. Keep your body centered!!!

  • @Foxdude92 Front brake provides 2/3 of braking power. I only use my back brake when I am coming up slowly to a stop. Others rely only on their rear brake. I usually only use front brake. In extreme situations when I'm riding at high speed, to stop on a dime, I have had to use front brake only, unfortunately this causes you to do a stoppie, this has saved me on 3 different occasions! Practice using front brake going different speeds. Keep your body centered & hug thighs tight to the bike!!!

  • @Foxdude92 dont lock the breaks... if you do youll get seriously hurt... if you lock the back you could go into a slide :/

  • Your front brake does about 70% of the braking because your center of mass moves way forward when you brake. This is true in cars too. Most cars have significantly larger rotors in the front than they do in the back for this reason. As long as you apply a moderate pressure on the front brake, you won't be finally over any handlebars.

  • Question-When braking anytime do you always have to pull in the clutch to stop?

  • Not really. You pull in the clutch if you are trying to stop completly. If you are just trying to shave a few mph off before a corner then no, just ease off the throttle and use both brakes, try to be done braking prior to entering the corner.

  • I was wondering about that before i get a motorbike,thanks

  • if u dont pull in the clutch when stopping the bike judders a bit.

  • only if your in too high a gear

  • great video i want to get a bike and i am a first timer. this helps it was alot of stuff i didnt no thanx

  • I don' understand, do you only drive 15 mph! In Sweden we have to do this in about 70 mph. It was the hardest thing to learn. 15 mph? It's a joke...

  • I would actually agree that the Alternate MOST test in the USA is NOT a true test of actual driving conditions. The test is done on a very small course only about 75 feet by 30 feet. All test are done at speeds no greater than 20 M.P.H.

    This unfortunately results in many accidents in the first year of riding which is why the DMV and insurance companies really push people to take an MSF riders course instead of just getting their license through the DMV.

  • @prowclaw 70 mph? or 70 Km/h... 70 mph=112 km/h I doubt many people would be doing it without getting killed or locking the brakes. If at 32 mph or urban traffic many people have serious accident at 70 mph would be a carnage.

  • great videos

  • did you downshifted before you applied the brakes?

  • Release the throttle and pull in the CLUTCH.

  • the idea that downshift helps braking is a myth. you should always disengage the clutch when braking to full stop. Car or motorbike.

  • @kriptonis

    No, you are wrong.

  • I have scientific studies backing my statement up. ;)

    But do whatever you want.

  • why put the left foot down first?

  • Because your right foot is on the rear brake.

  • @MotorcycleAssistant I know it was a year ago but well said

  • @MotorcycleAssistant

    I actually learned in today's class that it is important to put down your right foot first.

    Because if your foot would slide away, you would fall into the bank and not onto the street.

    I was also told by the instructor, that it is a trivial point in the exam. This is in the Netherlands btw.

  • Cheers mate ur vids a great help to learners like myself!

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