my thought on the second quote is that they are not referring to Kant but rather to the fact that the more we know and the more we learn, the more we realise how much it is that we don't know.
You should check out the philosopher Alan Watts, he has some interesting ideas i will leave you a link to an inspiring video at the bottom
furthermore i think zeitgeist and the venus project are 2 fantastic things and calling them terrorists are just ignorant. have a good day.
@AyumiYue No but I highly suspect you have been brainwashed by a Satanic, prisonless, atheistic, cashless, truthless, false science and anti-family system which will drag you straight to hell. The problem is that when someone tries to speak truth to you that you are so far gone you are unable to discern truth anymore.... You want some govt system to take care of you like a cow for the slaughter.
@LoneStar1776 I'm sorry for you. I'm sorry you believe that I'm going to hell for not believing in you. I'm sorry you've been brainwashed by some manipulative people of your church. I'm not an atheist, I'm christian. I do voluntarian work all sundays, I stud hard to become a good artist and paint beautiful things, I've never done anything outlaw. And I am WORKING for a better place. I believe in equallity for all humans, and I've seen this Zeitgeist and Venus to be the PERFECT solution.
@AyumiYue I don't believe you are going to hell for not believing in ME. I don't get my ideas from my church. As a matter of fact, I can't stand most people who call themselves Christians. And I don't care how hard you work for good causes, the bible says good works are not the way to get to heaven lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Zeitgeist is PURE EVIL. I suggest you watch watch?v=a36_CwzA0bk to see their attacks on Jesus Christ.
@LoneStar1776 I said I'm Christian, I didn't mention any religion. I don't have one. I believe in Jesus. He was humble, shared equally work and donations for everyone, didn't need money, talked about love and compassion with friends and enemies, and diversity. Why don't you go read the Coran? Or the Torá? Or the budists scrolls? Or the 5 books of Allan Kardec? Why don't you go travel the world, learn different points of view, understand how the world works, nstead of get stricted to one opinion?
@AyumiYue I have read the Koran and have probably forgotten more than your arrogant prideful self has even bothered to learn. You assume things about me every time you leave a comment and it makes me sick to my stomach. As a matter of fact people who claim to follow Jesus and think like you do make me sick to my stomach. Jesus said in John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. How can you not understand this?
@LoneStar1776 Good, it's a start :). And I'm sorry for your sickness, I don't feel this way towards you. I respect you, and understand you, although I question your point of view. I hope you do as your heart commands. And I hope you help the world you live in, because if we don't take good care of it, our grand-children will suffer the consequences of our own acts and negligency :/ If you think Venus and Zeitgeist aren't solution, please, show us an alternative :)
@AyumiYue The solution and everything we need to know is written in the pages of the King James Holy Bible. Jesus is the ONLY way. The Quran, Buddha, Zeitgeist, Venus Project and everything else is a distraction away from Jesus and his teachings. Matthew 10:34 Jesus said -- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. We are at WAR with Satan and most Christians can't even identify the enemy. The enemy is Zeitgeist and those like it.
@LoneStar1776 oowwkaay...but ahm...how does this solve miseducation? Corruption? Polution? Enviromental problems? Diseases and epidemics? Lack of security? Brutal economic differences? Hate, prejudice and violence? Just by...reading the Bible stucked at home doing nothing? Or forcing everybody in the world believing in the Bible? Great idea. Let's just get back to dark ages, it was so cool.
@AyumiYue EVERYTHING you need to run a society is in the Holy Bible. The USA was founded on biblical principals. Your jumping to conclusions again by saying that people sitting at home reading the bible and doing nothing.Faith is a VERB. Christians who follow Jesus Christ are the most active humans on earth.If you want to learn more about why America started out great, then go to wallbuilders (dot) org as a starting point. I agree things are screwed up now but Z is not the answer.
@LoneStar1776 Well, the Bible never mentioned speculations, dollars and companies. And first, stop thinking only about USA. Other countries were based on the Bible too. We are on same boat - EARTH. So! We are reaching a common point! To build a society, we need actions, we need verbs. We need people doing wright things, studing to know how to better build it. Doctors, archtects, lawers, artists.
First question: does it matter the motivation of the fellow who is working to help this society?
@AyumiYue The bible talks about a one world government and a one world religion and that is exactly what Zetigeist is pushing and it aligns perfectly with Satan's plan to enslave humanity. Yes motivation matters. I would rather be in the desert with a dumb friend who has a pure heart and wants nothing but good things for humanity than to sit in a palace with a wicked genius who is motivated to ultimately enslave humanity.
@LoneStar1776 well, we are all suns and daughters of the same Father, we are brothers. We are mankind, we shouldn't even have countries and borders. Despite in what we believe, we must learn to live with each other and respect the globe we live within, or we will doom ourselfs. Yes, I agree with you, I prefer a pure hearted guy, but we need solutions, and we need them fast. Our system is colapsing and Earth won't take us too long. We are killing ourselfs. We need respect for each other.
@AyumiYue, the earth is not headed for doom. Please read "The Skeptical Enviromentalist." by Bjørn Lomborg. We need not give up any freedoms, or social institutions or lifestyles to "solve" environmental problems because all of them are greatly overblown. There is no threat to the earth, but there is a threat to humanity: the NWO. Zeitgeist is the NWO wearing a green mask; we see through the mask.
@LoneStar1776 And, when I said "motivation", I meant believes. If he/she is working with a feeling of integrity, compassion, and brotherhood for his fellows (us, humans) WHAT is wrong if he believe he is going to a heaven of Spaghetti by doing so? If people work for construct a better place and not get us killed, have a strong sense of uniqueness, respect and love with the world, SO WHAT? Satan is taking his soul forever for doing his best for God's people?
@AyumiYue, our grand children will likely not exist in a Z/VP world. There will be no families, and a politicallly biased survey of the earth's carrying capacity will be done, and people's ability to reproduce will be technologically restricted by the outcome of the survey. But human overpopulation is a lie.
@AyumiYue The solutions for those problems are twofold: 1) depend upon Jesus for salvation (in the afterlife) and guidance in this life. 2) allow captialism to find new resources and reduce costs over time.
Nonetheless, the problems you mention will never be fully solved--only mitigated at times. We have flesh bodies and sinful natures; until those are gone, we will have some problems. The Bible (God's true Word) never says that evil will be extinguised before Christ's return.
You are misguided my friend. The Zeitgeist movement is ALL about making life better for ALL of us, without favouritism. If you think that a lack of money empowers ANYONE in the new society beyond anyone else, you really don't understand what you are gibbering about. open your mind,
The venus project is all about useing the resources we have in a efficient way for the good of all humans instead of letting the financial elite control the political show. Today they make technology for profit, not for the good of humanity. Viagra gives more profit than giving Africans AIDS medication. I suppose you as a Christian would want to give Africans AIDS medication instead of producing Viagra? All this time the US have exploited the poor for too long. Agree?
This is the most stupid critical movie of ZGM I have ever seen. Explain to me from where you got this stupid idea that they have a plan of destroying humans? Why do you try to turn people against them by the use of fear and terror? You say that computers are going to make all decisions? No they are only going to be used for tracing demand, resource production, distribution etc. just like we use those kind of systems today!
@ LoneStar1776 There are 6 or 7 billion people in the world. What happens if TZG's concept of not working anymore takes effect? What people don't realize is that once that happens, the NWO will start terminating people to greatly reduce the population so that they can have better control over the rest. Let's face it, they will not allow 6 billion people who are of no use to them to share with the resources. So for those who are supporting the ZM, think!
@gianc1 think? You should think. You guys are calling the Zeitgeist movement evel and stuff. Saying that they will terminate the population of Earth? That is your idea not the idea of the Zeitgeist movement....
LoneStar1776 Thank you for posting this video, I hope it will help some people realize that everything is part of the plan for the NWO. It is sad to see that a lot of people are falling for the TZM.
@morklind Yes sir, if it was not for my belief and loyalty to God, I would indeed want to make you pay for your insults and unkindness. The great thing about it, is that God is divine justice and He will ensure divine justice comes to you and your filth.
@LoneStar1776 With each obtuse utterance you reveal yourself.
Tell me as you clearly are a believer in the sacred book of the invisible rabbit and excuse me for going off topic a little but its not everyday you actually catch a live one.
Explain to me please ... where do hermaphrodites fit into your God's plan?
@morklind Genesis 6:6 The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. ..... As I deal with your arrogant ilk, I can understand how God must have felt. When God's wrath comes this time around to deal with sheepish self-absorbed followers like you, the divine justice that will prevail on earth will be a pleasant smell indeed.
@LoneStar1776 Yes .. that's all very good. I am impressed with your self-declaimed divinity.
But if you believer yourself to be a reserved and sincere christian can you please help me this non believer with this quandary and put my troubled mind at peace?
What is the function of a hermaphrodite on your God's earth?
@morklind I never claimed to be divine. Yet again you lie and spew your venom constantly. John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it... All creation declares the Glory of God. Isaiah 45:7 is my answer to your scoffing question. I pray Psalms 109 for you and your ilk.
@LoneStar1776 Ok thanks. So the Bible Isaiah 45:7 says ALL creation declares the Glory of God. This is good. Maybe I'll pick up that catechism that my Mum gave me .. oh wait minute. So if hermaphrodites declare the Glory of God so ..ermm, how do I put this. Who or what does a hermaphrodite mate with as his/her partner. I mean homosexuality is against the Bible right? Can you just clear that last one up for me? thanks
@morklind We live in a fallen world because of Adam's sin. Why is there suffering for man either caused by evil or nature? I believe the answer to this question is "If God thinks this state of war in the Universe (suffering) is a price worth paying for freewill - that is, for making a live world in which creatures can do real good and real harm and something of real importance can happen, instead of a toy world which only moves when He pulls the strings -then we may take it as worth. - CS Lewis
@LoneStar1776 Well we live in a fallen world and its down to human weakness and the evil of usury.
But you keep side stepping the question like some ostrich with his head in the sand. Again, what is the purpose of hermaphrodites in your God's holy plan. Give me an answer that correlates with love and justice and I will attend service on Sunday.
@morklind I find your obsession with hermaphrodites and fudge packers unsettling. Why don't you ask God why he created hermaphrodites and maybe he will tell you? Of course, I would recommend to get off your knees and take your head out of the lap of your fudge packing buddy before you put your hands together to pray to the Almighty Creator. I don't think he would appreciate the disrespect of committing abominations while asking for insight into His Holy plan.
@LoneStar1776 Quite clearly you are closer to your God than I. I am just heathen, the unwashed. I just thought you would practice what you preach and show a little christianity and console my unsettled soul and answer me.
I am troubled by this quandary. I just want to understand. You clearly do understand. So please tell me what is to become of those human beings who are born with both genitalia? How do they fit into your God's plan?
@morklind I told you to pray to God and ask him. Did you not understand it the first time I said it? As a side note, you start out by leaving insulting comments and then you end up playing the poor little questioning victim who is so troubled with a hermaphrodites/fagot question. You poor little troubled soul. I hope you can rise above all the things this bad ol' world has heaped upon you. Such a poor little victim you are.
@LoneStar1776 So you do not know why your God is a hypocrite but you accept it. yes? You have not done your church proud. Your'e not a very good christian. Youv'e been foul mouthed and derogatory to a fellow human being and have not shown the compassion of a good christian. I am a heathen, I am the unclean. I have an excuse. You do not. You have been sinful in your ways. Ask your God to forgive you and to help you be more compassionate OR stop pretending to be a follower of your Christ.
@morklind Yes, I am a sinner too.The difference is that I have repented for my sins and have asked the Lord to forgive me. And your brainwashed idea about watered down Christianity is your undoing. As for Liars like you, Psalm 193:22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. And I suggest your read Proverbs 6:16-19 which tells about the seven things God HATES. The day will come when you will confess that Jesus is Lord.Christians do not put up with nonsense of evil doers.
@LoneStar1776 I agree with you. Your violent bile suggests you are a sinner and the opposite of what your Jesus taught. Poor Jesus supposedly died such an awful death and for what? So he could be followed by PHONEY christians like you? Tragic! As for Proverbs 6:16-19 he hates you too for you wish to do me harm. Its really confusing isn't it? One day he is a God of Love .. the next hate .. really trying to get my heathen head round this. Was so sure you were righteous. Begone horned imposter!
@morklind I strongly suggest you read what Jesus had to say in Luke 19:27. As I said before and you obviously can't understand anything until it is repeated multiple times, YOU HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED BY WATERED DOWN CHRISTIANITY. The gospel is only for those who have ears to hear and you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Their is no compromising with evil liars and deceivers like you.
@LoneStar1776 You are a weird little squid. One second you are trying to reach out and then next you end up calling me an evil liar and deceiver. You must be very troubled yourself. I have not lied to you, merely asked you for guidance by way of answers since you are so sure of what your God means. But you have not answered anything you just keep telling me to read excerpts that I do not understand could come from a God of Love. Oh is that it? YOU DONT UNDERSTAND it either!! Bingo!
@morklind No, you dropped by my channel, cursed and left insulting comments.Then you pretended to set me up just like the pharisees did with Jesus Christ and the woman who was caught committing adultery. What has thrown you off is that I did not allow you to subjugate me to your pre-conceived notion of a pushover Christian. You talk about a God of LOVE. I tell you He also is a God of HATE. I will not reach out to people who mock and ridicule the Lord. I pray Psalms 109 for you and your ilk.
@LoneStar1776 I "dropped by" because I embrace constructive criticism. I am not sheep. I never take anything at face value. I always listen to others before forming my opinion. Same with Zeitgeist movies, they present a compelling perspective so I was keen to hear your criticism. I was angry because you made NO point, just droned on before interjecting notions of the invisible rabbit. Tried to engage you on a curious anomaly but you predictably pass the buck with "go read the bible". FAIL
@morklind no, you spew lies and venom once again. You had pre-conceived and pre-determined ideas before you even asked those questions. You left insulting comments about my Lord and Savior and then you proceeded to set me up in a trap like the heathen Pharisee you are. I saw right through it and you were thrown off by someone who will not bow down to your secular ungodly communistic method. Just go embrace your Zeitgeist cult and let your caretakers feed you. You will reap what you sow.
You have to be ashamed of being from Chile. The greatest man from Chile was Salvador Allende and what he proposed was equality between men, that's the same as Zeitgeist proposes. You're already controlled by the system so what would the difference be? Zeitgeist proposes free education, do we have that right now, the answer is NO, you don't even have enough arguments to go into a deep discussion about this...
Another video attempt to link ZM with the NWO fail and what it shows is another individual baffled and angry because ZM feature has encouraged him to analyse and asses HIS value system. This in itself is the most difficult thing we has humans must overcome in order to reach true enlightenment. Namaste. I'm not advocating the ZMP however it is presently the best solution structure I have witnessed.
No you don't get this system at all do you? when you wake you make all the decision for yourself you like. the computer do what they good at like counting and decision like this food needs to be here. things they can do faster and better then us just like now in most company's , country's and your local store. So much more free in this system then the freest country to ever be on the current earth. Once again what is evil what you don't like right?Whats this greatest evil you talk of please say?
your so pulling thing out of context when you should be asking questions and really learn what this RBE system is. Wrong a again truth is and will be the scientific method you can test any truth you like in this system. that freedom in 1 idea you can't in this current free system now like cold fusion a sample always shot down before it tested. So if they say the it then test it for your self. Of course it not your god it's a method lol. please reference link in old post about computers again.
No Jobs as you know them know your job is a RBE is what you want a DOC. today a ballerina tomorrow. He goes out of his way too say it's not a utopia.The computer just run what is know they don't tell you what to do look here > watch?v=LHrLGJFwe3E&list=FLJVptIawHfdzH8I41ss5bxQ&index=2 .Wrong their is truth but for the educated for every question you answer you get 10 more this is the idea behind that statement about so once get more question your not certain then are you but you did gain a truth.
he never say soul anywhere in the movie. He never said you didn't have free will just that always someone trying to control it like a religion or a king.He does touch into no religion but only when points out the controls or the corruption of them. As far as a GOD he leaves this up too you. No he don't say the religion is a evil superstition he say the church the part with humans is control too tell you how run your life.Just like the crusades against the good book but the church say it was OK.
To take over. they always have they will for a long time to come. in the current u.s. it the fed a private bank that presidents and for father tried to stop so hard. The way too avoid this is to get educated know what a RBE so no one has to tell you anything. then when you see corruption you can stomp it out.Corruption will also be harder to take rout in a RBE not imposable just harder.Yes his attacks as you say was just point something more then saying if it real or not & they're controls on us
great in this system vs the soviet Russian system everything transparent so you can see why something not getting better or if it gets held up and what the problem is so even maybe you can solve this problem. Patriot bro and sis lol that alone is brain washing saying these people are better then everyone else. everyone on this planet are humans too you know. Now no one proved their is a NWO but i understand you backgrounds with the patriots comment. So i dip into it. yes the current 1% will try.
for the hundredth time this is not a utopia.As man kind lack the ability to make anything perfect.It just a much better system then we have now.We have traits form all systems and most first world country's are going too aspect of social system like health care.They are not failing becuase of this.Correct you can never get too a utopia will unless you religious and you die in good faith then you can.Also this system doesn't have too Godless that up to each person their choice.No elite in a RBE
Lol evil? Just what is evil too you? can't know truth uh yes we can. we can know truth too as well as we can test it and that the scientific method. that the nice thing about this method we test things the same yet can and i can get the same results. woo your lost nothing in this system about a khan or any single leader or groups of leaders running everything in this system. your just lost here. Survival of the fittest that what we are in now not this system it gives everyone the basics.
@mikerowphone perhaps we can continue this through email... I'm losing track of the conversation with all of these posts. I'd still like to continue this debate though. I like to hear all sides of every story!
@mikerowphone I'm not suggesting the absence of govt, only the restructuring. The VP is not perfect at all, I'll be the first to admit it has flaws, but I think its moving in the right direction. Perhaps "Congress" (global elected officials) will still be in charge of computer programming and mgmt. However, "robots & computers" still do the work that is needed. The option for corruption will always exist in our society unfortunately, but an economy without money benefits the masses more is all!
@mikerowphone even with a manipulation by some, everyone on the planet still has the necessities of life (in theory). While some may manipulate the system to have a bigger house or better food, we no longer see entire cities starving to death in Africa, people sleeping on the streets eating from trash cans in Central America, etc. The entire standard of living rises for humanity due to assistance from technology. I fear we won't move forward until our current system fails completely (inevitably)
@mikerowphone even with a manipulation by some, everyone on the planet still has the necessities of life (in theory). While some may manipulate the system to have a bigger house or better food, we no longer see entire cities starving to death in Africa, people sleeping on the streets eating from trash cans in Central America, etc. The entire standard of living rises for humanity due to assistance from technology. I fear we won't move forward until our current system fails completely (inevitably)
@mikerowphone exchange is becoming outdated, thats the problem! With the implementation of technology, the carpenter no longer has to make anything, machines do it all! Food, furniture, homes, etc. are all manufactured and produced by machines, leaving humans free of hard labor. Every person is given an equal share (relatively of course), a home, the necessities of life! More time and energy can be put into family, leisure, space exploration, etc. A manipulation of resources WILL happen, but...
@mikerowphone I agree that the Keynesian aspect is what is magnifying the problem today, but you must admit that there is no true capitalism without keynesian capitalism at some point in the timeline! A monetary system will always be manipulated by those in power for personal benefit, its human nature. A strictly resource based economy can have the same flaw, sure. Once again, its human nature. Those in power will want more resources to live more lavishly. However, everyone is given SOMETHING!!
@mikerowphone if you don't possess some resentment towards our current Keynesian economy or capitalism in general, then you clearly don't see the big picture. We are stunting our growth as a species because of money. Cures to diseases, more efficient vehicles, etc. are bought out by multibillion dollar corporations and kept from the people because their introduction into society would cost them money. If that doesn't spark some form of anger and open your eyes then I fear the worst for us both.
@mikerowphone Capitalism is what we are trying to break away from, no matter what economics it consists of. The word "profit" is what breaks us down as a society, constantly trying to destroy another's living to better our own. Without money in the picture the poor would simply get the necessities of life: food, water, shelter, etc., and of much better quality since there is no loss of "profit" by giving it away! There is simply NO WAY to progress as a civilization with the monetary system.
this guy is a perfect example of human beings not being able to access enough amount of brain power. he is trying so hard to defend his beloved 'God' and repeating so many times that Zeitgeist is EVIL. this just proves that when people don't understand something they call it evil and bad, than they bring out the 'God' delusion so they can feel more safe and protected. the poor fuck! that's what Carlin would say...
reminded me to inventory my consideration and weigh it against the suggestion that it is actually now a wolf is sheep's clothing. **An excerpt from "Frolic on The Fulcrum" from 2008: "There are no pure human causes. None. Non-existent. When and if one comes around, I will not hesitate to carry that card, raise that staff, join that party, barter my soul! Be it's ultimate advocate. Until then, no cause is worthy of my alliance and thus, none will I argue. For speaking out of both sides of
Anyway, I have followed and for the most part, mostly respected what I've heard from most of the Zeitgeist doc's. But I must admit that I haven't really proportionally increased my cynicism in unison with the infusing of the philosophies of the check-writers to bring us such increasingly compelling production value. This virus is relentless. Nothing is immune. And to eliminate the premise that Zeitgest not being compromised would be reckless. I believe they started honorably. And you have
This editorial's subject was centered on the vulnerability of any idea, movement, crusade, campaign, organization, or otherwise promotion of a cause whereas grouping with other's like-minded to assist in it's viability and success becomes necessary. And my conclusion was that it is impossible to perpetuate the purity of any cause when it's organization calls for the enlistment of others. As momentum and inclusion progress, so does the infusion of the common bait of evil. And thy name is $.
You and I have seem to many conflicting philosophies and therefore our views will follow suit, but unlike most I share this denominator with, you carefully preface your debate with what seems to be a sincere and genuine creed to enter thereto objectively with an open mind. Having done so, I honored this gesture with a very attentive 10 minutes and 32 seconds of my time. And having done, I am glad, because you did invoke some new insight that takes me back to something I wrote back in 2008...
way to go brother you happened to contradict almost everything you said by the end of this clip .you give your subjective point of view about zeitgeist and society and not once did you hit on to a fact..not 'truth' fact...so wheres your head at we know the truth is ever evolving but facts are facts bud and you give no evidence to support your arguments! ridiculous
Now Listen Up! We're going to use your comments as a poignant example of the myriad of uneducated (Idiots) that always bollux up much of the web. You are way off base and don't even know what you're talking about - go work on a Septic Tank or an Outhouse - much more your speed... and hey, your'e already dressed for it.
'lone' you do Not have even the basic education to allow for an objective understanding of these matters - you're just one more loudmouth that can't wait to shoot it (your mouth) off ~ while what it really needs is a restraining order. What you should do is Shut Up! and learn before you speak. Those you are talking to already know more than you.
@LoneStar1776 NO >you< of all people could not come close to either myself or any of my Grad students when it comes to education. You are the very definition of 'Dumbed-Down 'n Stupid' and you don't even know it. I would suggest much study in the areas you're failing to address here, but that would just be 1 more StumbleFail for you. You're an unqualified, loudmouthed Fool.
hm.... patriot seems to be an important thing for this strange, strange person ... well, stupid, mindless, subordinate slaves is for me = patriots... so - no, nothing important in being a patriot ;)... hugs to ya - my fellow human being
Dear human on this planet, you like the scientific method, but science is also the problem with religion. If you can think about this at all. How many religions are there? why are there wars? filosofie as well. all people that have committed any thing to filosofie have done this from there own findings.
look at the whole picture. You are short signed friend. I hope you'll see this one day or come with evidence that you are wright. Not you oppinion.
There is no God, you've been lied to in order to make you dependent and loyal to the Christianity movement.
You know what kind of movement Christianity is, you've seen the news about priests and referents raping children as representatives of Jesus Christ in the house of God. They're not define, they probably deserve the death penalty.
You still don't see you've been brain washed and played with as a loyal soldier of those dirty old power hungry men ?
Organized religion is the main cause of all conflict in the world today. Nobody said anything about a "Godless" society, and nobody implicated whatsoever that computers will be the new God.You have already been "Bamboozled", as you so intellectually put it, by being managed by the current monetary system and not seeing its uncountable flaws. You claim to have so much knowledge on the subject, but the basis of your entire arguement is "faith" in a myth (religion). You're a disgrace to all Texans.
@authemac You sir are a disgrace to any rational thinking and working person. Go back to playing video games and wishing for someone to take care of you and make all decisions for you. You are a slave and don't even have the intellectual capacity to realize your own prison. Pearls before swine. I shake the dust off my feet from disgraceful disgusting slothful demons such as you.
@LoneStar1776 Sorry for the rude remarks, I'd like to continue this coversation as civilly as possible. A rational thinking person wouldn't support a monetary system created from debt, knowing there is no possible way to ever recover! We are inevitably doomed as a society if we continue on this path, don't you agree? We are already guided in our decisions and told what we can and cannot do by the govt. A person is smart but people are dumb, Sir. We must learn to think as individuals! thoughts?
@authemac Yes, I support an honest money system outlined in "The Creature from Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin and also "Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal" by Ayn Rand. I support the Austrian School of economics. I would offer for your consideration that I am probably the most individualistic thinker that you have ever met.
@LoneStar1776 But such a monetary system does not exist! The Federal Reserve is a privately owned corporation! How can an economy be based on a monopolistic organization?! Is the Great Depression ringing any bells here? History has a tendancy to repeat itself, and the definition of insanity is repeating the same process expecting a different outcome. I would say the furthering of our monetary society is nothing short of insane!... and lets not go too far with the self uplifting compliments ok!
@authemac The federal reserve is the single most evil institution in the world. I am much more familiar with the booms and busts and the causes for these things that you give me credit for. Have you read "The creature from Jekyll Island"? Do you know what an honest money system is? Do you understand how we could implement a non-fractional reserve banking system which could solve all of our monetary system woes? You have let zeitgeist confuse you about true laissez faire capitalism.
@LoneStar1776 I'm glad we finally agree on something! I understand Capitalism quite well, but haven't read your suggested books. Still, any form of monetary govt is destined for failure. Where there is a scale from which to judge (income) there are no equals! It is impossible for equality among men to exist in a monetary system. Only the equal distribution of resources would allow for true equality. TZM at least attempts to offer a solution with the Venus Project. What would you suggest?
@authemac For starters, I would read "Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal" by Ayn Rand. Also "The Creature from Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin. These two books form a foundation for a proven solution to govern men and our monetary system. It is difficult to cover the whole solution in only 500 characters.
whether I agree or disagree with you is irrelevant at this point, I sir give you kudo's for being a christian who says he would fight for my right to not believe in a religion, that sir is true tolerance & I applaud you for that above all things.
dude, corruption of mankind is caused because of scarcity. and for a monetary system to work there has to be scarcity. so scarcity is created to make money for you cannot sell something that is not scarce.
We're already bein bang boozled by the monetary system 'Paper being a value' money is man made fake which does create greed curruption povety etc
ur beliefs are ur beliefs know one can say otherwise but how can everyone live as equals wen it always depends on how much u earn or hav ? Its no trick we need to get a brain n stop falsifing and making real these artifical fantasy mechanical inventions and really start workin with the natural harmony of our planet cos hey dude our planet is dying man
ugh... i feel sorry for you, i really do. as it says in the video, if you've ever used a calculator to solve a math problem, you have delegated your decision-making to a computer. now, what do you think of when you hear "evil" or "destructive"? do you think of the billions in poverty and starvation because of the monetary system? do you think of the constant wars going on to acquire more of this false idea of "money"? or the complete ignorance of the true carrying capacity of the earth? cuz i do
It is very obvious LoneStar is schooled to not question or think for him self but only see the world as instructed by his teachers, the religious. I am sorry for you that you cannot yet see how money is evil. That is what tzm is working to remove. Also I think you misunderstand the hole issue of computers making decisions but without a reference to what you are talking about I cannot help clarify. Clearly you are not stupid as some say. It is sad to see tzm people talk to you in this manor.
@micnolmadtube I think for myself more than you know. Your false assumptions that I am conditioned by religious teachers is way off. Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:17
Nice desk cannon... I know your truth, and your truth makes me sick. Your truth destroys the planet and all life on it. TZM is the future because it is beautiful.
this guy belongs in the middle ages. it's a perfect example showing how deeply and severely medieval belief systems are pre-conditioned and drilled into peoples' psyches. you are a prisoner of your own indoctrinations... WAKE THE FUCK UP!
8:50 Notice you used a computer to upload your retarded video. You trust a computer to track your speed in your pickup truck, you trust an airplane to rocket you through the sky at 500mph, 30,000 ft above the ground, you trust your bank when they say you have $632.43 in your account, all of these networking together using computers. Everything you're doing, is guided by a computed decision. Are you really that stupid? This video has to be a joke right? With the flag and the skull thingy? wow
@EWirtz34 You hold up the created instead of the creator. Science is not a prize for atheists to claim over theists. Your example of science is by no means an argument that science should replace mankind for making decisions over how are life is directed and lived. Go find yourself a bunch of hippie idiots like the Zetigeist movement and let some university professor perform tyranny on your thick skull. You obviously have no appreciation for the free will of mankind.
@LoneStar1776 What are you even talking about? Are you that lost? You basically seem to be preaching for natural human rights, however, you're taking non-profit groups and saying the elitists are behind it? Are you serious? Are you that dumb? I don't even know if that's really what you're trying to say, or whatever, you're just too stupid. Believe me, it's not my opinion, you lack the ability to think for yourself, you lack any visionary input. Proof it's not my opinion, 498 dislikes, 73 likes
You're like Charlie from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia! That's a perfect comparison. You are impossible to reason with, because you don't even understand what you're trying to say, so how on Earth would you expect to convey such a misguided idea? Because it doesn't make ANY sense, AT ALL.
@LoneStar1776 You Sir didn´t get a single word of the Zeitgeist movie. "...science should replace mankind for making decisions over how are life is directed and lived."
How retarded can you be to say such a thing? And by the way, the biggest disarters happened because of human error, i would trust my life on a computer, and you are a full if you don´t.
"Go find yourself a bunch of hippie idiots..." Really? How can a caveman say such a thing?
Don't be confused with terms of god and church. Mostly, people have positive attitude toward god and oposite for curch. Church have lost credibility by stepping away from gods will! Explain me theologically richness of the Vatican? It's the richiest country in the world!!! Has its own commercial bank, plenty of gold etc. Respect for the gods idea, disrespect for the goldlovin' church!
If you like present system something is very wrong with you. Ask people in Serbia, Iraq, Afganistan, Lybia, Cuba, Mexico, Ethiopia...about it. Your system "believe" in god and use uranium ammunition, cassette and vacuum bombs. Your faith is burried in CNN sick propaganda against all who think different. Your system running wars for resources. In my culture we call it robbery! What your god can say about this? If you really believe in god you must be so afraid.
A cube has 6 sides, sunlight contains uv, the earth is spherical, liquid is not a gas...truth is not subjective friend, you cannot associate opinion with truth.
I´m putting my bets on that this ¨smart¨ Texan guy is looking forward to have the largest amount of negative ratings on a single video. And having the name Kant comming out of his mouth is an oximoron.
I am saddened to see that people dismiss the whole zeitgeist movement because of the whole God arguement..........
If the majority think that dismissing calculated scientific research and making decisions based on how you feel or what has been written in some book written buy people hundreds to thousands of years ago is a better option then we are doomed to fail. Yes there is going to be sacrifice and we are going to have to give some things up in order to survive. I'm not waiting on armageddon
LoneStar1776, I understand your perspective perfectly. You make a most remarkable statement. Keep up the great work. It saddens me to see other people dismiss your work as nonsense.
this man is uneducated, misinformed, and is paranoid. He tries to hide it, with the costume hes wearing. he bashes philosophy but says he is strong in his philosophy. WHAT. Hes christian with the whole 1 world order. wouldnt christians want the new world order so christ will come. they dont even really believe what they think they believe. delusion, honestly read buddhism so you become a better christian.
This, my friends, is the PERFECT example of what ignorance and unintelligence will do to a human beings mind. Being so close minded as to even comprehend what he says is rediculous. What is he talking about? Is he making ANY type of POSITIVE improvement to mankind and the problems we face today?
not at all. You have to research what your talking about to make any kind of sense. And in the end accepting and understanding the truth is far more productive and intelligent.
As for the divinity, it is common to man and his weak mind pride at the thought of a higher being, they live for their computers, cell phones and all that junk, which have become the most important thing in their pathetic lives, I say you are nothing and know nothing about it are ignorant and are used for control.
Come on, that none of you know Aldous Huxley and his book "Brave New World" that describes everything that is happening today, or Tolstoy. For those of us like to read things are very clear. There are ways to manipulate society and are being applied today. Remember the war in Iraq, where U.S. 300 million is spent daily, and now wonder why it lacks money to USA.
Oh my, you are preaching hatred and death and violence.
Your favourite book says, very loudly "THOU SHALL NOT KILL".
The fact that you can barely finish a sentence just shows how ignorant you really are.
I do not doubt, that in the end days (coming very soon), you will succumb to being a murderer. But you will think yourself a noble soldier...... sorry, the word is murderer.
i'm sorry but this makes total sense, I've always believed, sounds geeky but that the world will one day be like on Star Trek. I'm sorry but religion is no good, it was invented by men thousands of years ago as a way to control peoples minds. If not ask yourself when a suicide bomber blows himself/herself up, who asked them to do that, their faith or someone who talked them into it. It's not just one relgion either, it's all of them.
1: I think that calling names is the first proof, that this particular person is not ready to live in the world, that Venus project wants to create. All types of agression are just opposite to it's ideology.
2: U didn't get the point. TZM showed us that religion is based rather on myths than facts. U believe in what U want 2, your choice. But U can't do same with politics, economists or socialists. WE NEED FACTS COUSE THEY HAVE TO BE JUDGED FOR THEIR DECISIONS! BILLIONS LIVES DEPENDS ON THEM!
you are retarted zietgiest and the venus project are not government idea's there is no government in their beliefs. truth is not subjective and your philosiphy should be constantly changing updated everyday with current information. if you cannot do that you are too stubborn to learn and understand anything other then eating and breathing. please dont breed, and if you have please drown your kids.
Machines already make better decisions than us you mooran! You've never used a calculater? You've never used a pair scales? The only decisions machines make are the ones we've programed them to.
God and religion is irrelevant to the zeitgeist movement.. it is all about people working together for common well being.
If you believe in some sort of god, what is he doing for the children dieing of hunger in Ethiopia? or those born with physical disabilities etc.. where is the fairness and justice of your god?
@Mircose Unlike you, I do not point at the evils and suffering of mankind and then turn around and cuss God. Try putting blame where it belongs for once.
@LoneStar1776 this comment alone shows how dumb you are, you can very easily point out bad things in the world and cuss God. And judging by his comment microse clearly dont believe in God so its even easier to cuss God lol
Now do you see how dumb your comment sounded? You literally said some dumb shit to avoid answering the questions you know you cant
@Mircose Oh yes how unjust god is, look at Lucifer he was treated so unfairly. It's apparent you don't believe in god as you think of him as another human as someone you can even begin to fathom. And if you do you are
probably a satanist. Anyways to LoneStar, the movement has nothing to do with religion.
The only people that ever attempt to "debunk" TVP or Zeitgeist are always the people that have clearly been brought up in a system where they value outdated philosophies and intangible values. We are organisms, just as the planet. They are always subject to change. If we stopped at log cabins you wouldn't be posting your unfounded opinions on youtube. YOU KNOW NOTHING of the subject matter you speak, and invest minimal efforts on investigating the facts
so instead you cling on to your very OWN "philosophy" and remain ignorant to anything outside of your world. AND THAT'S WHY YOU will never make an impact on humanity, while the others that have achieved miraculous things like develop medicine for prosperity, machinery for assistance, theoretical advancements for the well being of humanity,etc have never limited themselves with your so called belief system. Those people know how that a simple linear mind like yours gets us no where. so, fuck off
"Death to the new world order"-->Killing intent and yet you think Zeitgeist is bad....
Tell those people in Iraq if god helps them!
If you have faith,too bad cause no god will helped you ! You should really belive in tehnology wich you can see unlike God....kinda helps the credibility !
And if you are against it why do you use a computer?
@kynthyahasfun You have to be one of the most stupidest people who has ever left a comment on my channel. Do you think Zeitgeist gets the permission to claim credit for all technology? Science and technology is not a prize for Zeitgeist to claim over every other person. You are so brainwashed, I hope you have a grandmother who is praying hard for you.
@LoneStar1776 I never said anything about ZG and tehnology,ZG does not claim any credit at all for tehnology it simply presents some of it.
I do have a grandmother and I asked her nicely not to prey for me because it is useless.I am not brainwashed I was thinking like this long before I saw ZG.You are still young and you can understand what ZG is about unlike my grandmother who is scared not to belive.You just need to accept arguments...
@LoneStar1776 Wow... "Science and technology is not a prize for Zeitgeist to claim over every other person." What's the purpose of having the credit for an invention in a world where there is no money value for anything... in a world where everyone is born free and equal... It's stated that in a world described by the zeitgeist movement, everyone UNDERSTANDS, something you don't, that people act upon the desire to further mankind as a whole. You're simply ignorant and afraid of change. Pathetic.
@LoneStar1776 Oh and about you making references to "patriots"... "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it." - George Bernard Shaw... As for your god...
@xtonytonytonyx It is called FREE WILL. It is your most precious gift from God which you probably don't even acknowledge. And as far as that stupid quote from Epicurus, I don't point at the suffering and evil that mankind brings upon itself and then turn around and cuss God. Hey everyone, look at all the suffering going on within the earth!!! and then turn around and cuss God... How stupid can one be? Why not put the blame on mankind where it belongs and ask God for help.
@LoneStar1776 No one is a bigger advocate of free will than TZM.
And don't call other people stupid when you get your ideas from a book you probably haven't even read.
And if you have, how did you not notice the nearly 500 contradictions, 1500 injustices, 1300 cruelties, 600 intolerances, and 380 deprecations of women in the Bible? Lest you think I'm making that up, look up the Skeptic's Annotated Bible. It lists all of these, along with the relevant sections.
my thought on the second quote is that they are not referring to Kant but rather to the fact that the more we know and the more we learn, the more we realise how much it is that we don't know.
You should check out the philosopher Alan Watts, he has some interesting ideas i will leave you a link to an inspiring video at the bottom
furthermore i think zeitgeist and the venus project are 2 fantastic things and calling them terrorists are just ignorant. have a good day.
/watch?v=bX8D0yU0pMc
smaskeriff 4 weeks ago
Ahm....are you retarded?
AyumiYue 2 months ago
@AyumiYue No but I highly suspect you have been brainwashed by a Satanic, prisonless, atheistic, cashless, truthless, false science and anti-family system which will drag you straight to hell. The problem is that when someone tries to speak truth to you that you are so far gone you are unable to discern truth anymore.... You want some govt system to take care of you like a cow for the slaughter.
LoneStar1776 2 months ago
@LoneStar1776 I'm sorry for you. I'm sorry you believe that I'm going to hell for not believing in you. I'm sorry you've been brainwashed by some manipulative people of your church. I'm not an atheist, I'm christian. I do voluntarian work all sundays, I stud hard to become a good artist and paint beautiful things, I've never done anything outlaw. And I am WORKING for a better place. I believe in equallity for all humans, and I've seen this Zeitgeist and Venus to be the PERFECT solution.
AyumiYue 2 months ago
@AyumiYue I don't believe you are going to hell for not believing in ME. I don't get my ideas from my church. As a matter of fact, I can't stand most people who call themselves Christians. And I don't care how hard you work for good causes, the bible says good works are not the way to get to heaven lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Zeitgeist is PURE EVIL. I suggest you watch watch?v=a36_CwzA0bk to see their attacks on Jesus Christ.
LoneStar1776 2 months ago
@LoneStar1776 I said I'm Christian, I didn't mention any religion. I don't have one. I believe in Jesus. He was humble, shared equally work and donations for everyone, didn't need money, talked about love and compassion with friends and enemies, and diversity. Why don't you go read the Coran? Or the Torá? Or the budists scrolls? Or the 5 books of Allan Kardec? Why don't you go travel the world, learn different points of view, understand how the world works, nstead of get stricted to one opinion?
AyumiYue 2 months ago
@AyumiYue I have read the Koran and have probably forgotten more than your arrogant prideful self has even bothered to learn. You assume things about me every time you leave a comment and it makes me sick to my stomach. As a matter of fact people who claim to follow Jesus and think like you do make me sick to my stomach. Jesus said in John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. How can you not understand this?
LoneStar1776 2 months ago
@LoneStar1776 Good, it's a start :). And I'm sorry for your sickness, I don't feel this way towards you. I respect you, and understand you, although I question your point of view. I hope you do as your heart commands. And I hope you help the world you live in, because if we don't take good care of it, our grand-children will suffer the consequences of our own acts and negligency :/ If you think Venus and Zeitgeist aren't solution, please, show us an alternative :)
AyumiYue 2 months ago
@AyumiYue The solution and everything we need to know is written in the pages of the King James Holy Bible. Jesus is the ONLY way. The Quran, Buddha, Zeitgeist, Venus Project and everything else is a distraction away from Jesus and his teachings. Matthew 10:34 Jesus said -- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. We are at WAR with Satan and most Christians can't even identify the enemy. The enemy is Zeitgeist and those like it.
LoneStar1776 2 months ago
@LoneStar1776 oowwkaay...but ahm...how does this solve miseducation? Corruption? Polution? Enviromental problems? Diseases and epidemics? Lack of security? Brutal economic differences? Hate, prejudice and violence? Just by...reading the Bible stucked at home doing nothing? Or forcing everybody in the world believing in the Bible? Great idea. Let's just get back to dark ages, it was so cool.
AyumiYue 2 months ago
@AyumiYue EVERYTHING you need to run a society is in the Holy Bible. The USA was founded on biblical principals. Your jumping to conclusions again by saying that people sitting at home reading the bible and doing nothing.Faith is a VERB. Christians who follow Jesus Christ are the most active humans on earth.If you want to learn more about why America started out great, then go to wallbuilders (dot) org as a starting point. I agree things are screwed up now but Z is not the answer.
LoneStar1776 2 months ago
@LoneStar1776 Well, the Bible never mentioned speculations, dollars and companies. And first, stop thinking only about USA. Other countries were based on the Bible too. We are on same boat - EARTH. So! We are reaching a common point! To build a society, we need actions, we need verbs. We need people doing wright things, studing to know how to better build it. Doctors, archtects, lawers, artists.
First question: does it matter the motivation of the fellow who is working to help this society?
AyumiYue 2 months ago
@AyumiYue The bible talks about a one world government and a one world religion and that is exactly what Zetigeist is pushing and it aligns perfectly with Satan's plan to enslave humanity. Yes motivation matters. I would rather be in the desert with a dumb friend who has a pure heart and wants nothing but good things for humanity than to sit in a palace with a wicked genius who is motivated to ultimately enslave humanity.
LoneStar1776 2 months ago
@LoneStar1776 well, we are all suns and daughters of the same Father, we are brothers. We are mankind, we shouldn't even have countries and borders. Despite in what we believe, we must learn to live with each other and respect the globe we live within, or we will doom ourselfs. Yes, I agree with you, I prefer a pure hearted guy, but we need solutions, and we need them fast. Our system is colapsing and Earth won't take us too long. We are killing ourselfs. We need respect for each other.
AyumiYue 2 months ago
@AyumiYue, the earth is not headed for doom. Please read "The Skeptical Enviromentalist." by Bjørn Lomborg. We need not give up any freedoms, or social institutions or lifestyles to "solve" environmental problems because all of them are greatly overblown. There is no threat to the earth, but there is a threat to humanity: the NWO. Zeitgeist is the NWO wearing a green mask; we see through the mask.
Mumiaw18 2 months ago
@Mumiaw18 please tell me you are jokeing...
smaskeriff 4 weeks ago
@LoneStar1776 And, when I said "motivation", I meant believes. If he/she is working with a feeling of integrity, compassion, and brotherhood for his fellows (us, humans) WHAT is wrong if he believe he is going to a heaven of Spaghetti by doing so? If people work for construct a better place and not get us killed, have a strong sense of uniqueness, respect and love with the world, SO WHAT? Satan is taking his soul forever for doing his best for God's people?
AyumiYue 2 months ago
@AyumiYue, our grand children will likely not exist in a Z/VP world. There will be no families, and a politicallly biased survey of the earth's carrying capacity will be done, and people's ability to reproduce will be technologically restricted by the outcome of the survey. But human overpopulation is a lie.
Mumiaw18 2 months ago
@AyumiYue The solutions for those problems are twofold: 1) depend upon Jesus for salvation (in the afterlife) and guidance in this life. 2) allow captialism to find new resources and reduce costs over time.
Nonetheless, the problems you mention will never be fully solved--only mitigated at times. We have flesh bodies and sinful natures; until those are gone, we will have some problems. The Bible (God's true Word) never says that evil will be extinguised before Christ's return.
Mumiaw18 2 months ago
You are misguided my friend. The Zeitgeist movement is ALL about making life better for ALL of us, without favouritism. If you think that a lack of money empowers ANYONE in the new society beyond anyone else, you really don't understand what you are gibbering about. open your mind,
ThePeacemaker54 2 months ago 2
what an ignorant looser
VPolecat 2 months ago
6: Persons who repudiate the existence of God have neither the intellect nor the sanity to tell us what human life it all about.
7: VP intends to not only tell us the meaning of life, but to alter it forever.
That's why it is appropriately flagged as EVIL.
Mumiaw18 3 months ago
4: VP does not have either a local or global mandate on fundamentally changing the human race.
5: No people, anywhere, at any time, could ever have both the intelligence and ethics to modify what it means to be human.
Mumiaw18 3 months ago
1:VP will require governmental force to enforce its transfers of wealth.
2:VP does not recognize God; therefore human rights would not come from God, but from government--not acceptable.
3:VP would eliminate both work and competition from humanity; that's the same as removing life from humanity.
Mumiaw18 3 months ago
"Death to the new world order" I thought that you should not kill....?
GeneralBlackNorway 3 months ago
The venus project is all about useing the resources we have in a efficient way for the good of all humans instead of letting the financial elite control the political show. Today they make technology for profit, not for the good of humanity. Viagra gives more profit than giving Africans AIDS medication. I suppose you as a Christian would want to give Africans AIDS medication instead of producing Viagra? All this time the US have exploited the poor for too long. Agree?
GeneralBlackNorway 3 months ago
This is the most stupid critical movie of ZGM I have ever seen. Explain to me from where you got this stupid idea that they have a plan of destroying humans? Why do you try to turn people against them by the use of fear and terror? You say that computers are going to make all decisions? No they are only going to be used for tracing demand, resource production, distribution etc. just like we use those kind of systems today!
GeneralBlackNorway 3 months ago
@ LoneStar1776 There are 6 or 7 billion people in the world. What happens if TZG's concept of not working anymore takes effect? What people don't realize is that once that happens, the NWO will start terminating people to greatly reduce the population so that they can have better control over the rest. Let's face it, they will not allow 6 billion people who are of no use to them to share with the resources. So for those who are supporting the ZM, think!
gianc1 4 months ago
@gianc1 think? You should think. You guys are calling the Zeitgeist movement evel and stuff. Saying that they will terminate the population of Earth? That is your idea not the idea of the Zeitgeist movement....
GeneralBlackNorway 3 months ago
LoneStar1776 Thank you for posting this video, I hope it will help some people realize that everything is part of the plan for the NWO. It is sad to see that a lot of people are falling for the TZM.
gianc1 4 months ago
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!! .. 6 mins in and you are still not making a point!! Thats 6 mins I wont get back.
I should have known, a 'proud' Texan in a sweatshirt talking about Ayn Rand ..what was I thinking.
morklind 4 months ago
@morklind I pray that the Lord has mercy on your soul because if he left it up to me there would be no room for the likes of you.
LoneStar1776 4 months ago
@LoneStar1776 yep that's about right .. thank you.
You have just made Zeitgeist's Peter Joseph's point about Religion. Thank you Thank you Thank you.
A Christian holding himself back from wanting to harm another.
morklind 4 months ago
@morklind Yes sir, if it was not for my belief and loyalty to God, I would indeed want to make you pay for your insults and unkindness. The great thing about it, is that God is divine justice and He will ensure divine justice comes to you and your filth.
LoneStar1776 4 months ago
@LoneStar1776 With each obtuse utterance you reveal yourself.
Tell me as you clearly are a believer in the sacred book of the invisible rabbit and excuse me for going off topic a little but its not everyday you actually catch a live one.
Explain to me please ... where do hermaphrodites fit into your God's plan?
morklind 4 months ago
@morklind Genesis 6:6 The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. ..... As I deal with your arrogant ilk, I can understand how God must have felt. When God's wrath comes this time around to deal with sheepish self-absorbed followers like you, the divine justice that will prevail on earth will be a pleasant smell indeed.
LoneStar1776 4 months ago
@LoneStar1776 Yes .. that's all very good. I am impressed with your self-declaimed divinity.
But if you believer yourself to be a reserved and sincere christian can you please help me this non believer with this quandary and put my troubled mind at peace?
What is the function of a hermaphrodite on your God's earth?
morklind 4 months ago
@morklind I never claimed to be divine. Yet again you lie and spew your venom constantly. John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it... All creation declares the Glory of God. Isaiah 45:7 is my answer to your scoffing question. I pray Psalms 109 for you and your ilk.
LoneStar1776 4 months ago
@LoneStar1776 Ok thanks. So the Bible Isaiah 45:7 says ALL creation declares the Glory of God. This is good. Maybe I'll pick up that catechism that my Mum gave me .. oh wait minute. So if hermaphrodites declare the Glory of God so ..ermm, how do I put this. Who or what does a hermaphrodite mate with as his/her partner. I mean homosexuality is against the Bible right? Can you just clear that last one up for me? thanks
morklind 4 months ago
@morklind We live in a fallen world because of Adam's sin. Why is there suffering for man either caused by evil or nature? I believe the answer to this question is "If God thinks this state of war in the Universe (suffering) is a price worth paying for freewill - that is, for making a live world in which creatures can do real good and real harm and something of real importance can happen, instead of a toy world which only moves when He pulls the strings -then we may take it as worth. - CS Lewis
LoneStar1776 4 months ago
@LoneStar1776 Well we live in a fallen world and its down to human weakness and the evil of usury.
But you keep side stepping the question like some ostrich with his head in the sand. Again, what is the purpose of hermaphrodites in your God's holy plan. Give me an answer that correlates with love and justice and I will attend service on Sunday.
Simple.
morklind 4 months ago
@morklind I find your obsession with hermaphrodites and fudge packers unsettling. Why don't you ask God why he created hermaphrodites and maybe he will tell you? Of course, I would recommend to get off your knees and take your head out of the lap of your fudge packing buddy before you put your hands together to pray to the Almighty Creator. I don't think he would appreciate the disrespect of committing abominations while asking for insight into His Holy plan.
LoneStar1776 4 months ago
@LoneStar1776 Quite clearly you are closer to your God than I. I am just heathen, the unwashed. I just thought you would practice what you preach and show a little christianity and console my unsettled soul and answer me.
I am troubled by this quandary. I just want to understand. You clearly do understand. So please tell me what is to become of those human beings who are born with both genitalia? How do they fit into your God's plan?
morklind 4 months ago
@morklind I told you to pray to God and ask him. Did you not understand it the first time I said it? As a side note, you start out by leaving insulting comments and then you end up playing the poor little questioning victim who is so troubled with a hermaphrodites/fagot question. You poor little troubled soul. I hope you can rise above all the things this bad ol' world has heaped upon you. Such a poor little victim you are.
LoneStar1776 4 months ago
@LoneStar1776 So you do not know why your God is a hypocrite but you accept it. yes? You have not done your church proud. Your'e not a very good christian. Youv'e been foul mouthed and derogatory to a fellow human being and have not shown the compassion of a good christian. I am a heathen, I am the unclean. I have an excuse. You do not. You have been sinful in your ways. Ask your God to forgive you and to help you be more compassionate OR stop pretending to be a follower of your Christ.
morklind 4 months ago
@morklind Yes, I am a sinner too.The difference is that I have repented for my sins and have asked the Lord to forgive me. And your brainwashed idea about watered down Christianity is your undoing. As for Liars like you, Psalm 193:22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. And I suggest your read Proverbs 6:16-19 which tells about the seven things God HATES. The day will come when you will confess that Jesus is Lord.Christians do not put up with nonsense of evil doers.
LoneStar1776 4 months ago
@LoneStar1776 I agree with you. Your violent bile suggests you are a sinner and the opposite of what your Jesus taught. Poor Jesus supposedly died such an awful death and for what? So he could be followed by PHONEY christians like you? Tragic! As for Proverbs 6:16-19 he hates you too for you wish to do me harm. Its really confusing isn't it? One day he is a God of Love .. the next hate .. really trying to get my heathen head round this. Was so sure you were righteous. Begone horned imposter!
morklind 4 months ago
@morklind I strongly suggest you read what Jesus had to say in Luke 19:27. As I said before and you obviously can't understand anything until it is repeated multiple times, YOU HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED BY WATERED DOWN CHRISTIANITY. The gospel is only for those who have ears to hear and you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Their is no compromising with evil liars and deceivers like you.
LoneStar1776 4 months ago
@LoneStar1776 You are a weird little squid. One second you are trying to reach out and then next you end up calling me an evil liar and deceiver. You must be very troubled yourself. I have not lied to you, merely asked you for guidance by way of answers since you are so sure of what your God means. But you have not answered anything you just keep telling me to read excerpts that I do not understand could come from a God of Love. Oh is that it? YOU DONT UNDERSTAND it either!! Bingo!
morklind 4 months ago
@morklind No, you dropped by my channel, cursed and left insulting comments.Then you pretended to set me up just like the pharisees did with Jesus Christ and the woman who was caught committing adultery. What has thrown you off is that I did not allow you to subjugate me to your pre-conceived notion of a pushover Christian. You talk about a God of LOVE. I tell you He also is a God of HATE. I will not reach out to people who mock and ridicule the Lord. I pray Psalms 109 for you and your ilk.
LoneStar1776 4 months ago
@LoneStar1776 I "dropped by" because I embrace constructive criticism. I am not sheep. I never take anything at face value. I always listen to others before forming my opinion. Same with Zeitgeist movies, they present a compelling perspective so I was keen to hear your criticism. I was angry because you made NO point, just droned on before interjecting notions of the invisible rabbit. Tried to engage you on a curious anomaly but you predictably pass the buck with "go read the bible". FAIL
morklind 4 months ago
@morklind no, you spew lies and venom once again. You had pre-conceived and pre-determined ideas before you even asked those questions. You left insulting comments about my Lord and Savior and then you proceeded to set me up in a trap like the heathen Pharisee you are. I saw right through it and you were thrown off by someone who will not bow down to your secular ungodly communistic method. Just go embrace your Zeitgeist cult and let your caretakers feed you. You will reap what you sow.
LoneStar1776 4 months ago
You have to be ashamed of being from Chile. The greatest man from Chile was Salvador Allende and what he proposed was equality between men, that's the same as Zeitgeist proposes. You're already controlled by the system so what would the difference be? Zeitgeist proposes free education, do we have that right now, the answer is NO, you don't even have enough arguments to go into a deep discussion about this...
stayalive1017 4 months ago
I've never heard anyone talk so much and say so little in my entire life
HaoleJames 4 months ago
Another video attempt to link ZM with the NWO fail and what it shows is another individual baffled and angry because ZM feature has encouraged him to analyse and asses HIS value system. This in itself is the most difficult thing we has humans must overcome in order to reach true enlightenment. Namaste. I'm not advocating the ZMP however it is presently the best solution structure I have witnessed.
benbballsmith 4 months ago
No you don't get this system at all do you? when you wake you make all the decision for yourself you like. the computer do what they good at like counting and decision like this food needs to be here. things they can do faster and better then us just like now in most company's , country's and your local store. So much more free in this system then the freest country to ever be on the current earth. Once again what is evil what you don't like right?Whats this greatest evil you talk of please say?
starknight97 4 months ago
your so pulling thing out of context when you should be asking questions and really learn what this RBE system is. Wrong a again truth is and will be the scientific method you can test any truth you like in this system. that freedom in 1 idea you can't in this current free system now like cold fusion a sample always shot down before it tested. So if they say the it then test it for your self. Of course it not your god it's a method lol. please reference link in old post about computers again.
starknight97 4 months ago
No Jobs as you know them know your job is a RBE is what you want a DOC. today a ballerina tomorrow. He goes out of his way too say it's not a utopia.The computer just run what is know they don't tell you what to do look here > watch?v=LHrLGJFwe3E&list=FLJVptIawHfdzH8I41ss5bxQ&index=2 .Wrong their is truth but for the educated for every question you answer you get 10 more this is the idea behind that statement about so once get more question your not certain then are you but you did gain a truth.
starknight97 4 months ago
he never say soul anywhere in the movie. He never said you didn't have free will just that always someone trying to control it like a religion or a king.He does touch into no religion but only when points out the controls or the corruption of them. As far as a GOD he leaves this up too you. No he don't say the religion is a evil superstition he say the church the part with humans is control too tell you how run your life.Just like the crusades against the good book but the church say it was OK.
starknight97 4 months ago
To take over. they always have they will for a long time to come. in the current u.s. it the fed a private bank that presidents and for father tried to stop so hard. The way too avoid this is to get educated know what a RBE so no one has to tell you anything. then when you see corruption you can stomp it out.Corruption will also be harder to take rout in a RBE not imposable just harder.Yes his attacks as you say was just point something more then saying if it real or not & they're controls on us
starknight97 4 months ago
great in this system vs the soviet Russian system everything transparent so you can see why something not getting better or if it gets held up and what the problem is so even maybe you can solve this problem. Patriot bro and sis lol that alone is brain washing saying these people are better then everyone else. everyone on this planet are humans too you know. Now no one proved their is a NWO but i understand you backgrounds with the patriots comment. So i dip into it. yes the current 1% will try.
starknight97 4 months ago
for the hundredth time this is not a utopia.As man kind lack the ability to make anything perfect.It just a much better system then we have now.We have traits form all systems and most first world country's are going too aspect of social system like health care.They are not failing becuase of this.Correct you can never get too a utopia will unless you religious and you die in good faith then you can.Also this system doesn't have too Godless that up to each person their choice.No elite in a RBE
starknight97 4 months ago
Lol evil? Just what is evil too you? can't know truth uh yes we can. we can know truth too as well as we can test it and that the scientific method. that the nice thing about this method we test things the same yet can and i can get the same results. woo your lost nothing in this system about a khan or any single leader or groups of leaders running everything in this system. your just lost here. Survival of the fittest that what we are in now not this system it gives everyone the basics.
starknight97 4 months ago
@mikerowphone perhaps we can continue this through email... I'm losing track of the conversation with all of these posts. I'd still like to continue this debate though. I like to hear all sides of every story!
authemac 5 months ago
@mikerowphone I'm not suggesting the absence of govt, only the restructuring. The VP is not perfect at all, I'll be the first to admit it has flaws, but I think its moving in the right direction. Perhaps "Congress" (global elected officials) will still be in charge of computer programming and mgmt. However, "robots & computers" still do the work that is needed. The option for corruption will always exist in our society unfortunately, but an economy without money benefits the masses more is all!
authemac 5 months ago
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@mikerowphone even with a manipulation by some, everyone on the planet still has the necessities of life (in theory). While some may manipulate the system to have a bigger house or better food, we no longer see entire cities starving to death in Africa, people sleeping on the streets eating from trash cans in Central America, etc. The entire standard of living rises for humanity due to assistance from technology. I fear we won't move forward until our current system fails completely (inevitably)
authemac 5 months ago
@mikerowphone even with a manipulation by some, everyone on the planet still has the necessities of life (in theory). While some may manipulate the system to have a bigger house or better food, we no longer see entire cities starving to death in Africa, people sleeping on the streets eating from trash cans in Central America, etc. The entire standard of living rises for humanity due to assistance from technology. I fear we won't move forward until our current system fails completely (inevitably)
authemac 5 months ago
@mikerowphone exchange is becoming outdated, thats the problem! With the implementation of technology, the carpenter no longer has to make anything, machines do it all! Food, furniture, homes, etc. are all manufactured and produced by machines, leaving humans free of hard labor. Every person is given an equal share (relatively of course), a home, the necessities of life! More time and energy can be put into family, leisure, space exploration, etc. A manipulation of resources WILL happen, but...
authemac 5 months ago
@mikerowphone I agree that the Keynesian aspect is what is magnifying the problem today, but you must admit that there is no true capitalism without keynesian capitalism at some point in the timeline! A monetary system will always be manipulated by those in power for personal benefit, its human nature. A strictly resource based economy can have the same flaw, sure. Once again, its human nature. Those in power will want more resources to live more lavishly. However, everyone is given SOMETHING!!
authemac 5 months ago
@mikerowphone if you don't possess some resentment towards our current Keynesian economy or capitalism in general, then you clearly don't see the big picture. We are stunting our growth as a species because of money. Cures to diseases, more efficient vehicles, etc. are bought out by multibillion dollar corporations and kept from the people because their introduction into society would cost them money. If that doesn't spark some form of anger and open your eyes then I fear the worst for us both.
authemac 5 months ago
@mikerowphone Capitalism is what we are trying to break away from, no matter what economics it consists of. The word "profit" is what breaks us down as a society, constantly trying to destroy another's living to better our own. Without money in the picture the poor would simply get the necessities of life: food, water, shelter, etc., and of much better quality since there is no loss of "profit" by giving it away! There is simply NO WAY to progress as a civilization with the monetary system.
authemac 5 months ago
this guy is a perfect example of human beings not being able to access enough amount of brain power. he is trying so hard to defend his beloved 'God' and repeating so many times that Zeitgeist is EVIL. this just proves that when people don't understand something they call it evil and bad, than they bring out the 'God' delusion so they can feel more safe and protected. the poor fuck! that's what Carlin would say...
szabonl 5 months ago
You put too many words in too little thought. I was waiting for the thought, it didn't come ta all.
AtilladHun 5 months ago
my mouth goes against the grain of my code, as it should for all. Simply, I choose to Frolic on the Fulcrum.
jwarren818 5 months ago
reminded me to inventory my consideration and weigh it against the suggestion that it is actually now a wolf is sheep's clothing. **An excerpt from "Frolic on The Fulcrum" from 2008: "There are no pure human causes. None. Non-existent. When and if one comes around, I will not hesitate to carry that card, raise that staff, join that party, barter my soul! Be it's ultimate advocate. Until then, no cause is worthy of my alliance and thus, none will I argue. For speaking out of both sides of
jwarren818 5 months ago
Anyway, I have followed and for the most part, mostly respected what I've heard from most of the Zeitgeist doc's. But I must admit that I haven't really proportionally increased my cynicism in unison with the infusing of the philosophies of the check-writers to bring us such increasingly compelling production value. This virus is relentless. Nothing is immune. And to eliminate the premise that Zeitgest not being compromised would be reckless. I believe they started honorably. And you have
jwarren818 5 months ago
This editorial's subject was centered on the vulnerability of any idea, movement, crusade, campaign, organization, or otherwise promotion of a cause whereas grouping with other's like-minded to assist in it's viability and success becomes necessary. And my conclusion was that it is impossible to perpetuate the purity of any cause when it's organization calls for the enlistment of others. As momentum and inclusion progress, so does the infusion of the common bait of evil. And thy name is $.
jwarren818 5 months ago
You and I have seem to many conflicting philosophies and therefore our views will follow suit, but unlike most I share this denominator with, you carefully preface your debate with what seems to be a sincere and genuine creed to enter thereto objectively with an open mind. Having done so, I honored this gesture with a very attentive 10 minutes and 32 seconds of my time. And having done, I am glad, because you did invoke some new insight that takes me back to something I wrote back in 2008...
jwarren818 5 months ago
way to go brother you happened to contradict almost everything you said by the end of this clip .you give your subjective point of view about zeitgeist and society and not once did you hit on to a fact..not 'truth' fact...so wheres your head at we know the truth is ever evolving but facts are facts bud and you give no evidence to support your arguments! ridiculous
justdoofdoof 5 months ago 3
Now Listen Up! We're going to use your comments as a poignant example of the myriad of uneducated (Idiots) that always bollux up much of the web. You are way off base and don't even know what you're talking about - go work on a Septic Tank or an Outhouse - much more your speed... and hey, your'e already dressed for it.
RamaRendezvoo 5 months ago
'lone' you do Not have even the basic education to allow for an objective understanding of these matters - you're just one more loudmouth that can't wait to shoot it (your mouth) off ~ while what it really needs is a restraining order. What you should do is Shut Up! and learn before you speak. Those you are talking to already know more than you.
RamaRendezvoo 5 months ago 2
@RamaRendezvoo I have forgotten more than you currently know.
LoneStar1776 5 months ago
@LoneStar1776 NO >you< of all people could not come close to either myself or any of my Grad students when it comes to education. You are the very definition of 'Dumbed-Down 'n Stupid' and you don't even know it. I would suggest much study in the areas you're failing to address here, but that would just be 1 more StumbleFail for you. You're an unqualified, loudmouthed Fool.
RamaRendezvoo 5 months ago
hm.... patriot seems to be an important thing for this strange, strange person ... well, stupid, mindless, subordinate slaves is for me = patriots... so - no, nothing important in being a patriot ;)... hugs to ya - my fellow human being
IvanaScepanovic 5 months ago
Dear human on this planet, you like the scientific method, but science is also the problem with religion. If you can think about this at all. How many religions are there? why are there wars? filosofie as well. all people that have committed any thing to filosofie have done this from there own findings.
look at the whole picture. You are short signed friend. I hope you'll see this one day or come with evidence that you are wright. Not you oppinion.
MrElmarthoen 5 months ago
MOST EVIL VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1995fordsc 5 months ago
i fell so sad for this guy
TheTruthDK 5 months ago
Hey Berty,
There is no God, you've been lied to in order to make you dependent and loyal to the Christianity movement.
You know what kind of movement Christianity is, you've seen the news about priests and referents raping children as representatives of Jesus Christ in the house of God. They're not define, they probably deserve the death penalty.
You still don't see you've been brain washed and played with as a loyal soldier of those dirty old power hungry men ?
shopsheaven 5 months ago
Organized religion is the main cause of all conflict in the world today. Nobody said anything about a "Godless" society, and nobody implicated whatsoever that computers will be the new God.You have already been "Bamboozled", as you so intellectually put it, by being managed by the current monetary system and not seeing its uncountable flaws. You claim to have so much knowledge on the subject, but the basis of your entire arguement is "faith" in a myth (religion). You're a disgrace to all Texans.
authemac 5 months ago
@authemac You sir are a disgrace to any rational thinking and working person. Go back to playing video games and wishing for someone to take care of you and make all decisions for you. You are a slave and don't even have the intellectual capacity to realize your own prison. Pearls before swine. I shake the dust off my feet from disgraceful disgusting slothful demons such as you.
LoneStar1776 5 months ago
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authemac 5 months ago
@LoneStar1776 Sorry for the rude remarks, I'd like to continue this coversation as civilly as possible. A rational thinking person wouldn't support a monetary system created from debt, knowing there is no possible way to ever recover! We are inevitably doomed as a society if we continue on this path, don't you agree? We are already guided in our decisions and told what we can and cannot do by the govt. A person is smart but people are dumb, Sir. We must learn to think as individuals! thoughts?
authemac 5 months ago
@authemac Yes, I support an honest money system outlined in "The Creature from Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin and also "Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal" by Ayn Rand. I support the Austrian School of economics. I would offer for your consideration that I am probably the most individualistic thinker that you have ever met.
LoneStar1776 5 months ago
@LoneStar1776 But such a monetary system does not exist! The Federal Reserve is a privately owned corporation! How can an economy be based on a monopolistic organization?! Is the Great Depression ringing any bells here? History has a tendancy to repeat itself, and the definition of insanity is repeating the same process expecting a different outcome. I would say the furthering of our monetary society is nothing short of insane!... and lets not go too far with the self uplifting compliments ok!
authemac 5 months ago
@authemac The federal reserve is the single most evil institution in the world. I am much more familiar with the booms and busts and the causes for these things that you give me credit for. Have you read "The creature from Jekyll Island"? Do you know what an honest money system is? Do you understand how we could implement a non-fractional reserve banking system which could solve all of our monetary system woes? You have let zeitgeist confuse you about true laissez faire capitalism.
LoneStar1776 5 months ago
@LoneStar1776 I'm glad we finally agree on something! I understand Capitalism quite well, but haven't read your suggested books. Still, any form of monetary govt is destined for failure. Where there is a scale from which to judge (income) there are no equals! It is impossible for equality among men to exist in a monetary system. Only the equal distribution of resources would allow for true equality. TZM at least attempts to offer a solution with the Venus Project. What would you suggest?
authemac 5 months ago
@authemac For starters, I would read "Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal" by Ayn Rand. Also "The Creature from Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin. These two books form a foundation for a proven solution to govern men and our monetary system. It is difficult to cover the whole solution in only 500 characters.
LoneStar1776 5 months ago
whether I agree or disagree with you is irrelevant at this point, I sir give you kudo's for being a christian who says he would fight for my right to not believe in a religion, that sir is true tolerance & I applaud you for that above all things.
Hopekuma 5 months ago
dude, corruption of mankind is caused because of scarcity. and for a monetary system to work there has to be scarcity. so scarcity is created to make money for you cannot sell something that is not scarce.
jorn1233 5 months ago
rofl how to not like such videos
cool hat btw !!!
tisheca 6 months ago
We're already bein bang boozled by the monetary system 'Paper being a value' money is man made fake which does create greed curruption povety etc
ur beliefs are ur beliefs know one can say otherwise but how can everyone live as equals wen it always depends on how much u earn or hav ? Its no trick we need to get a brain n stop falsifing and making real these artifical fantasy mechanical inventions and really start workin with the natural harmony of our planet cos hey dude our planet is dying man
megasparky4 6 months ago
ugh... i feel sorry for you, i really do. as it says in the video, if you've ever used a calculator to solve a math problem, you have delegated your decision-making to a computer. now, what do you think of when you hear "evil" or "destructive"? do you think of the billions in poverty and starvation because of the monetary system? do you think of the constant wars going on to acquire more of this false idea of "money"? or the complete ignorance of the true carrying capacity of the earth? cuz i do
kirkwhalen991 6 months ago
stupid video
OtherWayCreator 6 months ago
Are you about to grab a musket?
fatchickproductions1 6 months ago
Nice cannon you are not serios or wat is in your mind the flinstones or wtf
jerrygdl100 6 months ago
It is very obvious LoneStar is schooled to not question or think for him self but only see the world as instructed by his teachers, the religious. I am sorry for you that you cannot yet see how money is evil. That is what tzm is working to remove. Also I think you misunderstand the hole issue of computers making decisions but without a reference to what you are talking about I cannot help clarify. Clearly you are not stupid as some say. It is sad to see tzm people talk to you in this manor.
micnolmadtube 6 months ago
@micnolmadtube I think for myself more than you know. Your false assumptions that I am conditioned by religious teachers is way off. Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:17
LoneStar1776 6 months ago
Nice desk cannon... I know your truth, and your truth makes me sick. Your truth destroys the planet and all life on it. TZM is the future because it is beautiful.
mobildeath 6 months ago
this guy belongs in the middle ages. it's a perfect example showing how deeply and severely medieval belief systems are pre-conditioned and drilled into peoples' psyches. you are a prisoner of your own indoctrinations... WAKE THE FUCK UP!
nistyboy32 6 months ago
Why am i still watching this crap...
MasAppealTheGreat 6 months ago
8:50 Notice you used a computer to upload your retarded video. You trust a computer to track your speed in your pickup truck, you trust an airplane to rocket you through the sky at 500mph, 30,000 ft above the ground, you trust your bank when they say you have $632.43 in your account, all of these networking together using computers. Everything you're doing, is guided by a computed decision. Are you really that stupid? This video has to be a joke right? With the flag and the skull thingy? wow
EWirtz34 6 months ago 6
@EWirtz34 You hold up the created instead of the creator. Science is not a prize for atheists to claim over theists. Your example of science is by no means an argument that science should replace mankind for making decisions over how are life is directed and lived. Go find yourself a bunch of hippie idiots like the Zetigeist movement and let some university professor perform tyranny on your thick skull. You obviously have no appreciation for the free will of mankind.
LoneStar1776 6 months ago
@LoneStar1776 What are you even talking about? Are you that lost? You basically seem to be preaching for natural human rights, however, you're taking non-profit groups and saying the elitists are behind it? Are you serious? Are you that dumb? I don't even know if that's really what you're trying to say, or whatever, you're just too stupid. Believe me, it's not my opinion, you lack the ability to think for yourself, you lack any visionary input. Proof it's not my opinion, 498 dislikes, 73 likes
EWirtz34 6 months ago
@LoneStar1776
You're like Charlie from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia! That's a perfect comparison. You are impossible to reason with, because you don't even understand what you're trying to say, so how on Earth would you expect to convey such a misguided idea? Because it doesn't make ANY sense, AT ALL.
EWirtz34 6 months ago
@LoneStar1776 You Sir didn´t get a single word of the Zeitgeist movie. "...science should replace mankind for making decisions over how are life is directed and lived."
How retarded can you be to say such a thing? And by the way, the biggest disarters happened because of human error, i would trust my life on a computer, and you are a full if you don´t.
"Go find yourself a bunch of hippie idiots..." Really? How can a caveman say such a thing?
knoobidade 6 months ago
@LoneStar1776 free will is an illusion.
jorn1233 5 months ago
Don't be confused with terms of god and church. Mostly, people have positive attitude toward god and oposite for curch. Church have lost credibility by stepping away from gods will! Explain me theologically richness of the Vatican? It's the richiest country in the world!!! Has its own commercial bank, plenty of gold etc. Respect for the gods idea, disrespect for the goldlovin' church!
Best regards and sorry for my english
stojkac 6 months ago
If you like present system something is very wrong with you. Ask people in Serbia, Iraq, Afganistan, Lybia, Cuba, Mexico, Ethiopia...about it. Your system "believe" in god and use uranium ammunition, cassette and vacuum bombs. Your faith is burried in CNN sick propaganda against all who think different. Your system running wars for resources. In my culture we call it robbery! What your god can say about this? If you really believe in god you must be so afraid.
stojkac 6 months ago
Religion, god is subjective as it gets!
infiniteawareness1 6 months ago
A cube has 6 sides, sunlight contains uv, the earth is spherical, liquid is not a gas...truth is not subjective friend, you cannot associate opinion with truth.
infiniteawareness1 6 months ago
Resource Based ECONOMY! Equality for all. Monetary system Evil, corrupt, inequality.
infiniteawareness1 6 months ago
A belief system? U mean your mind cannot be updated with new understandings? Friend seek help
infiniteawareness1 6 months ago
Define a new world order and explain what gives them power,
then zeitgeist is right on the point that the elite rises from the enviroment in which they are conditioned.
I think we should criticize anything somebody wants us to believe,
but even if u follow the general idea of zeitgeist without understanding why and how it works, your life will be way beter then what it is right now,
and thats for the people who are already eatting.
This guy, does not know the meaning of the word utopia,
a1pwn 6 months ago
I´m putting my bets on that this ¨smart¨ Texan guy is looking forward to have the largest amount of negative ratings on a single video. And having the name Kant comming out of his mouth is an oximoron.
FreeMason34 6 months ago
I am saddened to see that people dismiss the whole zeitgeist movement because of the whole God arguement..........
If the majority think that dismissing calculated scientific research and making decisions based on how you feel or what has been written in some book written buy people hundreds to thousands of years ago is a better option then we are doomed to fail. Yes there is going to be sacrifice and we are going to have to give some things up in order to survive. I'm not waiting on armageddon
URMyTorment 6 months ago
LoneStar1776, I understand your perspective perfectly. You make a most remarkable statement. Keep up the great work. It saddens me to see other people dismiss your work as nonsense.
isidro975 6 months ago
this man is uneducated, misinformed, and is paranoid. He tries to hide it, with the costume hes wearing. he bashes philosophy but says he is strong in his philosophy. WHAT. Hes christian with the whole 1 world order. wouldnt christians want the new world order so christ will come. they dont even really believe what they think they believe. delusion, honestly read buddhism so you become a better christian.
buddhabastard 6 months ago
R-E-D-N-E-C-K
geromd91 6 months ago
Sad dude extremely sas...
eblgraphics 7 months ago
This, my friends, is the PERFECT example of what ignorance and unintelligence will do to a human beings mind. Being so close minded as to even comprehend what he says is rediculous. What is he talking about? Is he making ANY type of POSITIVE improvement to mankind and the problems we face today?
not at all. You have to research what your talking about to make any kind of sense. And in the end accepting and understanding the truth is far more productive and intelligent.
Be Respectful
-Bridget
Talelyn 7 months ago
As for the divinity, it is common to man and his weak mind pride at the thought of a higher being, they live for their computers, cell phones and all that junk, which have become the most important thing in their pathetic lives, I say you are nothing and know nothing about it are ignorant and are used for control.
GillesdeRais2010 7 months ago
Come on, that none of you know Aldous Huxley and his book "Brave New World" that describes everything that is happening today, or Tolstoy. For those of us like to read things are very clear. There are ways to manipulate society and are being applied today. Remember the war in Iraq, where U.S. 300 million is spent daily, and now wonder why it lacks money to USA.
GillesdeRais2010 7 months ago
Oh my, you are preaching hatred and death and violence.
Your favourite book says, very loudly "THOU SHALL NOT KILL".
The fact that you can barely finish a sentence just shows how ignorant you really are.
I do not doubt, that in the end days (coming very soon), you will succumb to being a murderer. But you will think yourself a noble soldier...... sorry, the word is murderer.
boogiefiend 7 months ago
I feel so sorry for this poor excuse of a man.
And YES ! This might be the most stupid video response I have ever seen on the tube.
Rechbert 7 months ago
such a looser
tolstoy1985 7 months ago
lollol
ca9109 7 months ago
In 1826, one of the 5 sons of Mayer Rotschild went to the Vatican and succeeded in taking over the financial operations of the Catholic Church....
TRUE SHIT!
101simar 7 months ago
i'm sorry but this makes total sense, I've always believed, sounds geeky but that the world will one day be like on Star Trek. I'm sorry but religion is no good, it was invented by men thousands of years ago as a way to control peoples minds. If not ask yourself when a suicide bomber blows himself/herself up, who asked them to do that, their faith or someone who talked them into it. It's not just one relgion either, it's all of them.
shaunberry1982 7 months ago
1: I think that calling names is the first proof, that this particular person is not ready to live in the world, that Venus project wants to create. All types of agression are just opposite to it's ideology.
2: U didn't get the point. TZM showed us that religion is based rather on myths than facts. U believe in what U want 2, your choice. But U can't do same with politics, economists or socialists. WE NEED FACTS COUSE THEY HAVE TO BE JUDGED FOR THEIR DECISIONS! BILLIONS LIVES DEPENDS ON THEM!
CrispiJones 7 months ago
you are retarted zietgiest and the venus project are not government idea's there is no government in their beliefs. truth is not subjective and your philosiphy should be constantly changing updated everyday with current information. if you cannot do that you are too stubborn to learn and understand anything other then eating and breathing. please dont breed, and if you have please drown your kids.
stalkingcat123 7 months ago
Machines already make better decisions than us you mooran! You've never used a calculater? You've never used a pair scales? The only decisions machines make are the ones we've programed them to.
renoo27 8 months ago
Lone, you are such an idiot.
God and religion is irrelevant to the zeitgeist movement.. it is all about people working together for common well being.
If you believe in some sort of god, what is he doing for the children dieing of hunger in Ethiopia? or those born with physical disabilities etc.. where is the fairness and justice of your god?
Mircose 8 months ago 15
@Mircose Unlike you, I do not point at the evils and suffering of mankind and then turn around and cuss God. Try putting blame where it belongs for once.
LoneStar1776 8 months ago
@LoneStar1776 I don't need to put the blame where it belongs, the documentary "Zeitgeist - Moving Forward" pin points exactly it.
They die of hunger because they cannot afford and.... obviously... THERE IS NO GOD.
Mircose 8 months ago
@LoneStar1776 this comment alone shows how dumb you are, you can very easily point out bad things in the world and cuss God. And judging by his comment microse clearly dont believe in God so its even easier to cuss God lol
Now do you see how dumb your comment sounded? You literally said some dumb shit to avoid answering the questions you know you cant
shaktiX 6 months ago
@Mircose why did god make weed?
TheSmongo 7 months ago
@Mircose Oh yes how unjust god is, look at Lucifer he was treated so unfairly. It's apparent you don't believe in god as you think of him as another human as someone you can even begin to fathom. And if you do you are
probably a satanist. Anyways to LoneStar, the movement has nothing to do with religion.
shawnmd 6 months ago
@shawnmd the only thing I can't even begin to fathom is the stupidity of religion.
A person does not need religion, only common sense and be conscientious in order to coexist in a harmonic way with each other.
Mircose 6 months ago
The only people that ever attempt to "debunk" TVP or Zeitgeist are always the people that have clearly been brought up in a system where they value outdated philosophies and intangible values. We are organisms, just as the planet. They are always subject to change. If we stopped at log cabins you wouldn't be posting your unfounded opinions on youtube. YOU KNOW NOTHING of the subject matter you speak, and invest minimal efforts on investigating the facts
nitrork 8 months ago
so instead you cling on to your very OWN "philosophy" and remain ignorant to anything outside of your world. AND THAT'S WHY YOU will never make an impact on humanity, while the others that have achieved miraculous things like develop medicine for prosperity, machinery for assistance, theoretical advancements for the well being of humanity,etc have never limited themselves with your so called belief system. Those people know how that a simple linear mind like yours gets us no where. so, fuck off
nitrork 8 months ago
"Death to the new world order"-->Killing intent and yet you think Zeitgeist is bad....
Tell those people in Iraq if god helps them!
If you have faith,too bad cause no god will helped you ! You should really belive in tehnology wich you can see unlike God....kinda helps the credibility !
And if you are against it why do you use a computer?
kynthyahasfun 8 months ago 4
@kynthyahasfun You have to be one of the most stupidest people who has ever left a comment on my channel. Do you think Zeitgeist gets the permission to claim credit for all technology? Science and technology is not a prize for Zeitgeist to claim over every other person. You are so brainwashed, I hope you have a grandmother who is praying hard for you.
LoneStar1776 8 months ago
@LoneStar1776 I never said anything about ZG and tehnology,ZG does not claim any credit at all for tehnology it simply presents some of it.
I do have a grandmother and I asked her nicely not to prey for me because it is useless.I am not brainwashed I was thinking like this long before I saw ZG.You are still young and you can understand what ZG is about unlike my grandmother who is scared not to belive.You just need to accept arguments...
kynthyahasfun 8 months ago
@kynthyahasfun -->
I belive in the laws of Physics.If you drop an object it will fall because of the gravity no matter if you pray for that object not to fall.....
The problem with you guys is that you reject ideas even if you do not know what is all about....
I know what religion is about,do you know about ZG?I mean to understand it no to be against it before you know the theory that sustains it.
Thanks for reply,do it again,i'd like to chat with you :d
kynthyahasfun 8 months ago
@LoneStar1776 lol one of the most stupidest. good spelling bad grammer. moron
stalkingcat123 7 months ago
@LoneStar1776 "most stupidest"? Hmmmm.....
ComplexMissy 7 months ago
@LoneStar1776 Wow... "Science and technology is not a prize for Zeitgeist to claim over every other person." What's the purpose of having the credit for an invention in a world where there is no money value for anything... in a world where everyone is born free and equal... It's stated that in a world described by the zeitgeist movement, everyone UNDERSTANDS, something you don't, that people act upon the desire to further mankind as a whole. You're simply ignorant and afraid of change. Pathetic.
xtonytonytonyx 7 months ago
@LoneStar1776 Oh and about you making references to "patriots"... "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it." - George Bernard Shaw... As for your god...
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?"
-Epicurus
xtonytonytonyx 7 months ago
@xtonytonytonyx It is called FREE WILL. It is your most precious gift from God which you probably don't even acknowledge. And as far as that stupid quote from Epicurus, I don't point at the suffering and evil that mankind brings upon itself and then turn around and cuss God. Hey everyone, look at all the suffering going on within the earth!!! and then turn around and cuss God... How stupid can one be? Why not put the blame on mankind where it belongs and ask God for help.
LoneStar1776 7 months ago
@LoneStar1776 No one is a bigger advocate of free will than TZM.
And don't call other people stupid when you get your ideas from a book you probably haven't even read.
And if you have, how did you not notice the nearly 500 contradictions, 1500 injustices, 1300 cruelties, 600 intolerances, and 380 deprecations of women in the Bible? Lest you think I'm making that up, look up the Skeptic's Annotated Bible. It lists all of these, along with the relevant sections.
rkniffy 6 months ago