@Vuvenz you mean pussies? Then there prolly be no victories over anything either. Stayin out of war is like watching your friends get beat up and not helping. not very smart, cuse your next and whos gonna help you when everyone else i defeted?
@Hirnlego999 Oh please, if you are going to put all of GBs history into the pot to decide if its good or evil, ( no such thing anyways, its never black or white) to make the comparison Sweden vs GB make Sweden appear like a kingdom of noble honorable saints you also have to take all of your contrys past into consideration. Like, how did you treat your indigenous people? Sweden also used to be a tyranny if you where in doubt about your own kingdoms history. Your contribution is irrelevant.
@Stuenestoppen2 Point being, GB wasn't so friggin great and that is precisely the point which Stina made, and of course it doesn't sink inside Margaret's head who looks at her own country in a too good light. Very few countries, if any can be truly called exceptional if examined closely. The British aren't better either.
I don't mind if Sweden is dragged down for its fault, an honest look at policies past and present is essential to correct mistakes.
As a swede I like the moral point that Thatcher is raising against Sweden´s neutral policy during WWII. But before she claimed Britain as the best country in the world for it's position during WWII, she should also have reflected on the consequences of Britain's colonial history.
@Hirnlego999 How come he did the Roman salute? Or had the flags like the Romans? Germany was called third reich guess wich was the first reich? Holy Roman Empire
@123Usch How come they used the swastika even though it comes from India? "He (Hitler) then astonished us by speaking with admiration of the British Empire, of the necessity for its existence, and of the civilization that Britain had brought into the world. He remarked, with a shrug of the shoulders, that the creation of its Empire had been achieved by means that were often harsh, but where there is planing, there are shavings flying,. "
Sure all of those were better at standing up against Tyranny than Sweden, but Sweden couldn't stand up to tyranny, then Britain would have bombed us.
It's sad that insetad of Stina there isn't somebody interviewing Thatcher that understand the Swedish position and the awfulness of war.
They could for instance say that Britain while fighting the Germans fought a restrained war, not a full out war, until they could find themselves on the winning side when the US joined the war,.
I'm so ashamed to be Swedish when it comes to this. I'd be proud to be British or anything else if I were when it comes to this. If my country is supposed to be neutral then we'd better do it well and not be chicken scared of other countries. If I look back on the history of Sweden I kind of find that What this country didn't have, in times of need, was a strong leader like either Thatcher or Juan Carlos I. Someone who supported the glorious developement basically
@stevenadler They did not, read your history before you come with smart comments. They (GB and Fracen) declared war on Germany, when Germany invaded Poland, Great Britain and France made it clear that unless Germany pulled back their troops from Poland, they would declare war on Germany. They did not have to go to war, they did just honor their alliance with Poland. which ofcourse the empire and France did't "have to" in any way. But they ( and France) honored it based on principles.
Stina is wiser than marget thatcher. One has to remember that at then end of the day all countries are filled with primitive primates. Is england better than germany, germany better than england? It was these attitudes that started the wars to begin with. If everyone would be neutral like sweden there would be no wars. It's time to look forward and not backwards, it's time to be neutral! not arrogant like mrs thatcher.
Also Sweden had a free ride for their economy by being neutral when others were being bombed Sweden could just sell stuff to them and after the war we could continue to sell stuff that is needed to build everything up again.
You always turn out better by being neutral.
Should have let Hitler and Stalin fight each other to death much better :)
@haksve If Norway had not supplied raw oil to the British they never would have had enough fuel to power they machinery. The sabotage work done by a few Norwegians trained in Scotland was outstanding resistance work. Go fuck yourself you swedish sympacist shit.
@stigie88 Himmler moved here when Germany was still a democracy* Sweden saved 95% of the danish jews who fled in secrecy to Malmö. We also helped your rebellion movements. Folk som du gör mig så jävla arg.
Wall Street and international corporations and banks financed Hitler and Stalin and made trillions on WW1 and WW2. History during the last 150 years has all been a blood littered farse. Weve all been fooled by the power elite of the world.
Well I agree with everything except her point about Norway and Denmark, We wanted to be neutral, we did everything we could to be neutral. My country Norway was even reducing our military from 1920-1940 to become a pacifist nation. But Denmark is essential in controlling the Baltic Sea, and Norway shoreline essential in trying to stop USA supplies to USSR. So we are not morally superior when it comes to fighting tyranny, but the US and Britain is.
@killerbee2k In my book, what you just said qualifies as "moral superiority". Acknowledging other people's greatness, and downplaying your own in a question like this is admirable.
@killerbee2k For some countries perhaps that's empirically proven. For Sweden it's the opposite. We were in contant wars between 1500-1800 with Denmark, Russia, Preussia etc. Only when we shifted policy to a more neutral one we got lasting peace.
@haksve Yes, I have been to the War museum in Stockholm, one of the best in world imo and I have seen many.
I agree with you, but you are forgetting one point. Sweden today combines Neutrality with a relative decent professional army and one of the most advanced weapon industries of the world. So you got Firepower to deter aggression and thereby maintain effective neutrality. We norwegians wanted to be a peace nations without any arms, and this empircally proven to not work.
You have to give Margaret Thatcher this. She says what she believes and if you try to get her to say something that she does not mean she will NOT ever waver. She can always explain her position.
Actually, UK was in big economically debt to the US and so was also France. That is the single most important reason why US entered WW2 (some may say Pearl Harbor). Without US and the russians UK wouldn't have had a chance. Some silly right wing kids always try to blame everything on the swedish labour party. Anyone with a brain knows the world was, and still is a little more complicated than that.
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The only thing embarrassing about Sweden during WW2 is that we did not join the axis. Atleast we should have provided a safe haven for our german friends after the war like some south american nations did.
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Stina is a politically correct douche. But I do not agree on the Good vs Evil narrative of ww2 that Tatcher is pushing. And I think I'd prefer Hitler to have won over Stalin at least in the east so that the eastern peoples of Europe not had to suffer under communism.
@Dejavo You're joking right? The people of the east would have suffered even greater under Nazi German rule, since they were considered sub-human/untermensch. The whole point of the German campaigns in the east were for German lebensraum, who's policies and aims consisted of killing, deporting or enslaving the Polish, Russian and other Slavic populations and to repopulate the land with Germanic peoples. Not to defend the godforsaken ideology that is Communism though.
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@TheStevenBlue No I'm not joking. Nazis considered Jews, if not subhuman, at least to be parasiting on the German people. Hitlers main enemies were Jews and Communists, not slavic people. I'm not defending any of the two ideologies though. I'm just fed up with the good vs bad narrative.
@Dejavo I think it's obvious you need to read up on the racial policies of the Third Reich and the concept of ”lebensraum”. Especially in regards to the German occupations of Poland, Soviet Union and Yugoslavia, where the vast majority of civilians killed weren't Jews, except for in Poland. You may be correct with regards to "independent" Axis countries such as Hungary or Romania would have been better of (not for Jews or Gypsies though) but certainly not in the areas annexed by Germany.
Typical delusional far-left fishing. You can't and will never corner Truth. Apologists for evil, those who would try to twist truth into a pretzel, to attempt to create some bizarre utopia which trumps individual human morality don't need to be ashamed of themselves - we already are doing it for you. No way to leave your mark on humanity.
@dallas998 what an imaginable loser you are, desecrating the graves of millions of people fighting against Hitler and his armies. Such a huge waste of good air.
Sweden is nothing. Stina Dabrowski is a nothing cunt. Name once when Sweden stood up for any national crisis. The country is like a living graveyard filled intellectual lowlifes and racist scumbags who justify their zombie existence by dry knowlegde that's worth as much as the charcoal shit. They rip of from everybody else and share zero with the rest. They treat foreigners with the kind of kindness and understanding a dog would be treated with.
I don't even wanna enter the subject she's talking about. I just wanna say, God damn she makes my pants move all over the room, there is something to those eyes that says, "Take off you pants, I'm in charge and you will obey me, NOW!"
Mrs Thatcher is making a mistake when she said that Norway and Denmark stod up to the Germans. They were neutral in WW2 just like Sweden. Difference was that they were attacked, but they could make much about it after being occupied. US and UK deserves credit though for crushing Hitler.
@Livikri Norway and Denmark actually declared themselves neutral but got invaded by Germany anyway. Sweden probably would have been invaded too if they hadn't played a double role (leading to a lot of discussable activities ofc). The question Tatcher is trying to avoid is how her apparent belief that her people is better then others is any different from
If one wants to drag all this down to a really low level one can say that Sweden actually have won wars against Russia which the US never has.
(contin.) Hitlers. the British has done a lot of awful things by just saying that they have the right to do it as we are a better people then they are (colonization). No people is better then any other, Britain has a dark past with their colonies, Sweden has also done a lot of awful things, for example they made quite some money from slavery. THe Swedish government did what they thought was best for their country, so did Hitler and so did Churchill.
@Livikri Yes I'm a Swede. No, I'm not embarrassed, why would I be? I see that you are a Norwegian and don't even know your own countrys history during WW2. You should read up a bit about it. Most smaller countries were neutral in the beginning of WW2. Yes, Norway too.
Danmark och Norge blev anfallna, dom gick inte med i kriget av någon princip att störta tyranni. Dom hade med glädje hållt sig neutrala, så som dom gjorde i WW1. Vi var åtminstone smarta nog att kunna hålla Tyskland borta från våra städer.
Concerning britain, they would've lost the war if it wasn't for the US. They sold out the czechs, abandoned Poland, were routed at Dunquerque and isolated across the channel. Weakened, dishonored, defeated.
Stina is a communist. Sweden didnt fight because the politicians had disbanded the army after WW1 and invested everything they had into the peace promised by the League of Nations.
@opaz79 bla bla bla! You didnt fight nazis! And thats a fact, many countries in europe had small armies and were occupied too, and still they fought and gave their lives! Fact is you didnt fight!
"History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people." Marin Luther King, Jr
I god damn love Margaret Thatcher! As a swede I'm embarrassed about the cowardice shown by Sweden during ww2. The world owes their freedom to Great Britain and the U.S, but most people show little to no gratefulness for that fact.
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@superkattmat Are you a complete moron? We should be proud that we did not provoke a world war like the British did. You should not interfere with other nations business!
By standing up for allied country when they are invaded by a dictatorship?
If your friend was attacked, would you go "oh, I better not interfere with other peoples business"?
Our behaviour during WWII was disgraceful, and were it not for the US and Great Britain, it would just have been a matter of time before your beloved neutrality would have meant obedience to the fürhrer.
A neutral stance in such a situation is just an orwellian way of describing cowardice.
@superkattmat Yeah like we did to the finns? Germany was and have always been our friend, I'm proud we did not support the brittish and french. Thatcher is a cunt.
Did I say Sweden shouldn't`t have helped Finland? No, so you remark lacks any relevance whatsoever, not surprisingly.
If you call someone who invades a non-aggressive country, slaughters innocent civilians, and stages one of the worst genocides in history your friend, then that speaks volumes about your moral code, or lack thereof.
Thatcher is the most admirable European politician ever, and Sweden should be lucky to be blessed with a person of half her character.
Tyranni? Vad sägs om den tyranniska kolonialismen i Indien som Storbritannien utförde samtidigt under andra världskriget? Eller i Australien, USA, och alla andra länder som Storbritannien har koloniserat. Visserligen inte jämförbart med Hitlers tyranni men Storbritannien är definitivt inte fläckfria, inte på långa vägar...
Political picture of the modern world completely other calls, problems have cardinally changed, have appeared. All of us have changed the sights. If in those days the Aristocracy was afraid to politicize. That now the situation has changed. Now the new leader of world value who could unit all of us is necessary for us
Det är sant - två ungefär lika onda stater balanserade varandra och tur var det, för troligtvis hade varken sovjeterna eller de västallierade klarat sig ensamma mot Tyskland.
Totalt sett besegrade dock de västallierade båda de onda staterna i slutändan.
@herroskar Största uppoffringen men inte största insatsen. Ryssarna blev så knäckta innan de allierades strategiska bombningar började få ordentlig effekt att tyskarna hann ta halva det industrialiserade Ryssland. Att ryssarna på många sätt var värre än tyskarna "glömde" du väl för övrigt bort.
@Roobster88 Så uppoffring och insats står i motsats? Pratar du om de allierades bombningar av ex Hamburg, Hiroshima och Nagasaki? För de bombningarna var ju rena statsterrorismen och inte det minsta fredsbefrämjande, men det kanske du har "glömt".
Jag är ingen förespråkare för Sovjetunionen om du tror det yankee, jag menade bara att man inte ska nonchalera ryssarnas insats/uppoffring.
@herroskar Det jag menade var att de allierades insats gjorde mer skada trots att Sovjet förlorade mest. De allierades bombningar och kärnvapnen må ha lett till många civila döda men antalet bleknar jämfört med vad nazisterna och kommunisterna lyckades med. Utan strategiska bombningar mot Tyskland så hade de nog vunnit. Utan kärnvapnen som demonstration mot Sovjet hade Sovjet inte haft något hinder mot att ta över hela Europa, de hade många gånger större markstyrkor i Europa.
Den GÖR ont för Stina för i egenskap av judinna hade hon inget hellre sett än att Sverige slängdes ut i ett meningslöst brödrakrig mot Tyskland och Hitler.
Å andra sidan har hon inget att gräma sig över. Svenskarna är idag kuvade och vågar inte knysta mot en historieunik massinvandring som kommer att utplåna det svenska folket inom några generationer.
I själva verket är debatten mellan Dabrowski och Thatcher mest smålustig och en smula förvirrad.
Thatcher äger så jävla hårt. Jag är inte ngn partimänniska, men om hon hade ställt upp i val i Sverige hade jag stått ute i kylan och delat ut flygblad. :-)
Vi svenskar bör ju skämmas över det sossarna ställt till med så som baltutlämning svensk-balterna/ukrainarna som nekades uppehållstillstånd och framförallt den här blåsta jävla stina.......
Skitkärring(dabrowski). Får jag mvg på ett matteprov är jag BÄTTRE än idioterna som bara fick ig och g. Jävla horfitta.
Armorcrasher 6 days ago
I hope someone shoot that bitch.... thinks she is better that everyone else,
If a country has the opportunity to stay out of a war then why not? If more countries were like Sweden then there would be no war....
Vuvenz 1 week ago
@Vuvenz you mean pussies? Then there prolly be no victories over anything either. Stayin out of war is like watching your friends get beat up and not helping. not very smart, cuse your next and whos gonna help you when everyone else i defeted?
Armorcrasher 6 days ago
The British empire was a thing of evil, a tyranny.
Hirnlego999 1 week ago
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Hirnlego999 1 week ago
@Hirnlego999 Oh please, if you are going to put all of GBs history into the pot to decide if its good or evil, ( no such thing anyways, its never black or white) to make the comparison Sweden vs GB make Sweden appear like a kingdom of noble honorable saints you also have to take all of your contrys past into consideration. Like, how did you treat your indigenous people? Sweden also used to be a tyranny if you where in doubt about your own kingdoms history. Your contribution is irrelevant.
Stuenestoppen2 1 week ago
@Stuenestoppen2 Point being, GB wasn't so friggin great and that is precisely the point which Stina made, and of course it doesn't sink inside Margaret's head who looks at her own country in a too good light. Very few countries, if any can be truly called exceptional if examined closely. The British aren't better either.
I don't mind if Sweden is dragged down for its fault, an honest look at policies past and present is essential to correct mistakes.
Hirnlego999 1 week ago
Ändå så står ni Svenskar här och är FÖR hennes tankar!
HON SÄGER JU ATT SVENSKAR ÄR FEGA, MED ANDRA ORD! JÄVLA IDIOTER!
Visa lite stolthet förfan!
kozin354 4 weeks ago
@kozin354 stolthet går före fall
Jontish316 2 weeks ago
En vidrig subba som är snart död.
smashthereds88 1 month ago
As a swede I like the moral point that Thatcher is raising against Sweden´s neutral policy during WWII. But before she claimed Britain as the best country in the world for it's position during WWII, she should also have reflected on the consequences of Britain's colonial history.
NetFredd 1 month ago
@NetFredd Absolutely, and it could be pointed out that Hitler was influenced by the British empire - he wanted his own.
Hirnlego999 1 week ago
@Hirnlego999 Hitler was influenced by the Roman Empire not the British-
123Usch 1 week ago
@123Usch Nope. The British empire was an influence to him. As was the Armenian genocide, Hitler asked if anyone remembered it.
Hirnlego999 1 week ago
@Hirnlego999 How come he did the Roman salute? Or had the flags like the Romans? Germany was called third reich guess wich was the first reich? Holy Roman Empire
123Usch 1 week ago
@123Usch How come they used the swastika even though it comes from India? "He (Hitler) then astonished us by speaking with admiration of the British Empire, of the necessity for its existence, and of the civilization that Britain had brought into the world. He remarked, with a shrug of the shoulders, that the creation of its Empire had been achieved by means that were often harsh, but where there is planing, there are shavings flying,. "
Hirnlego999 1 week ago
@Hirnlego999 Ha looks like you know more about this then me.
123Usch 1 week ago
Sure all of those were better at standing up against Tyranny than Sweden, but Sweden couldn't stand up to tyranny, then Britain would have bombed us.
It's sad that insetad of Stina there isn't somebody interviewing Thatcher that understand the Swedish position and the awfulness of war.
They could for instance say that Britain while fighting the Germans fought a restrained war, not a full out war, until they could find themselves on the winning side when the US joined the war,.
Visfen 1 month ago
@Visfen
What the fuck are you talking about, you silly man?
llanbo 2 weeks ago
I'm so ashamed to be Swedish when it comes to this. I'd be proud to be British or anything else if I were when it comes to this. If my country is supposed to be neutral then we'd better do it well and not be chicken scared of other countries. If I look back on the history of Sweden I kind of find that What this country didn't have, in times of need, was a strong leader like either Thatcher or Juan Carlos I. Someone who supported the glorious developement basically
Bonde1994 2 months ago
Margaret Thatcher must be one of the most awful people to have walked this earth. Pinochet was her BFF and she called Nelson Mandela a terrorist.
tvgalen 3 months ago
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iCarl84 3 months ago
cunt
stevenadler 3 months ago
Hm.. Thatcher doesn't say anything about what Soviet did to bring down the nazis. What a twat!
JustWickedSwede 3 months ago 2
@JustWickedSwede The Soviets basically were as bad as the Nazis... but history is written by the winners.
DrStrangebomb1993 2 months ago
I really can't stand limeys, They're like the french but worse.
Snopp202 4 months ago
England was forced into the war.
Denmark was forced into the war.
Norway was forced into the war.
America was forced into the war.
Sweden was not..
stevenadler 5 months ago 15
@stevenadler your point being?
Jontish316 2 weeks ago
@stevenadler They did not, read your history before you come with smart comments. They (GB and Fracen) declared war on Germany, when Germany invaded Poland, Great Britain and France made it clear that unless Germany pulled back their troops from Poland, they would declare war on Germany. They did not have to go to war, they did just honor their alliance with Poland. which ofcourse the empire and France did't "have to" in any way. But they ( and France) honored it based on principles.
Stuenestoppen2 1 week ago
@stevenadler Yeah Sweden really enjoyed the Nazis killing their fellow scandinavians.
123Usch 1 week ago
@123Usch schmuck... Remember this, NO OTHER COUNTRY IN THE ENTIRE HUMAN FUCKING HISTORY HAS HELPED THEIR NEIGHBORS AS MUCH AS WE DID WITH THE FINNS.
Coward fucking politicians, sure, but the people knew what was right, sometimes the politicians dont represent the values of the people...
stevenadler 1 hour ago
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@stevenadler Yeah Sweden really enjoyed the Nazis killing their fellow scandinavians.
123Usch 1 week ago
Gift dig med mig, Margaret!
congenti 6 months ago
Just look at Sweden now. What a rat infested sh*t hole that is.
Slacker1967 6 months ago
@Slacker1967
Who's talking? A Brit?
blueforare 6 months ago
@blueforare Yes.
Slacker1967 6 months ago
Margaret Thatcher atleast have sound definitions, unlike that Swedish bitch. (Yes im a Swede, kill the naive ultra-leftists i say.)
n3gr4rn 6 months ago
@n3gr4rn Stupid Bitch just got served.
n3gr4rn 6 months ago
Stalin won for fucks sake.
Petesexig 6 months ago
Yaaay vi svenskar är fittor! heil hitler lol
ck85 6 months ago
She is simply amazing.
martheoldernes 8 months ago
Stina is wiser than marget thatcher. One has to remember that at then end of the day all countries are filled with primitive primates. Is england better than germany, germany better than england? It was these attitudes that started the wars to begin with. If everyone would be neutral like sweden there would be no wars. It's time to look forward and not backwards, it's time to be neutral! not arrogant like mrs thatcher.
Hermoor 9 months ago
@Hermoor
Also Sweden had a free ride for their economy by being neutral when others were being bombed Sweden could just sell stuff to them and after the war we could continue to sell stuff that is needed to build everything up again.
You always turn out better by being neutral.
Should have let Hitler and Stalin fight each other to death much better :)
unfad1ng 8 months ago
wadda cunt!
stevenadler 10 months ago
My norwegian grandfather smugled food to Soviet war prisoners in our home city. Norway fighted Hitler, Sweden invited Himmler for lunch.
stigie88 10 months ago
@stigie88 Norway fought Hitler? Well, you were occupied in just a day. Were were your forces to fight Hitler?
haksve 6 months ago
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gentarion 1 month ago
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@haksve If Norway had not supplied raw oil to the British they never would have had enough fuel to power they machinery. The sabotage work done by a few Norwegians trained in Scotland was outstanding resistance work. Go fuck yourself you swedish sympacist shit.
gentarion 1 month ago
@stigie88 Himmler moved here when Germany was still a democracy* Sweden saved 95% of the danish jews who fled in secrecy to Malmö. We also helped your rebellion movements. Folk som du gör mig så jävla arg.
Eironaxable 1 month ago
Loooove her!
Joey1974 10 months ago
They were defeated by the Romans and William the Conqueror.
MOBiL4u 1 year ago
Wall Street and international corporations and banks financed Hitler and Stalin and made trillions on WW1 and WW2. History during the last 150 years has all been a blood littered farse. Weve all been fooled by the power elite of the world.
Gassebol 1 year ago
WESTERN PRIDE!!
stalin53 1 year ago
Well I agree with everything except her point about Norway and Denmark, We wanted to be neutral, we did everything we could to be neutral. My country Norway was even reducing our military from 1920-1940 to become a pacifist nation. But Denmark is essential in controlling the Baltic Sea, and Norway shoreline essential in trying to stop USA supplies to USSR. So we are not morally superior when it comes to fighting tyranny, but the US and Britain is.
killerbee2k 1 year ago 2
@killerbee2k In my book, what you just said qualifies as "moral superiority". Acknowledging other people's greatness, and downplaying your own in a question like this is admirable.
ProSensuCommuni 11 months ago
@ProSensuCommuni In my book thats cowardice. Only peace through power. Pacifism is an invitation to war as empirically proven with WW2.
killerbee2k 11 months ago
@killerbee2k I am not talking about how the Norwegians acted. I am talking about what you just did.
ProSensuCommuni 11 months ago
@killerbee2k For some countries perhaps that's empirically proven. For Sweden it's the opposite. We were in contant wars between 1500-1800 with Denmark, Russia, Preussia etc. Only when we shifted policy to a more neutral one we got lasting peace.
haksve 6 months ago
@haksve Yes, I have been to the War museum in Stockholm, one of the best in world imo and I have seen many.
I agree with you, but you are forgetting one point. Sweden today combines Neutrality with a relative decent professional army and one of the most advanced weapon industries of the world. So you got Firepower to deter aggression and thereby maintain effective neutrality. We norwegians wanted to be a peace nations without any arms, and this empircally proven to not work.
killerbee2k 6 months ago
You have to give Margaret Thatcher this. She says what she believes and if you try to get her to say something that she does not mean she will NOT ever waver. She can always explain her position.
american2015 1 year ago 2
We shall go on to the end.
We shall fight in France,
we shall fight on the seas and oceans,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air,
we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be.
We shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender
edwardgreat 1 year ago 3
Actually, UK was in big economically debt to the US and so was also France. That is the single most important reason why US entered WW2 (some may say Pearl Harbor). Without US and the russians UK wouldn't have had a chance. Some silly right wing kids always try to blame everything on the swedish labour party. Anyone with a brain knows the world was, and still is a little more complicated than that.
muddyclouds 1 year ago
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The only thing embarrassing about Sweden during WW2 is that we did not join the axis. Atleast we should have provided a safe haven for our german friends after the war like some south american nations did.
MrMugg 1 year ago
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Stina is a politically correct douche. But I do not agree on the Good vs Evil narrative of ww2 that Tatcher is pushing. And I think I'd prefer Hitler to have won over Stalin at least in the east so that the eastern peoples of Europe not had to suffer under communism.
Dejavo 1 year ago
@Dejavo You're joking right? The people of the east would have suffered even greater under Nazi German rule, since they were considered sub-human/untermensch. The whole point of the German campaigns in the east were for German lebensraum, who's policies and aims consisted of killing, deporting or enslaving the Polish, Russian and other Slavic populations and to repopulate the land with Germanic peoples. Not to defend the godforsaken ideology that is Communism though.
TheStevenBlue 1 year ago 3
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@TheStevenBlue No I'm not joking. Nazis considered Jews, if not subhuman, at least to be parasiting on the German people. Hitlers main enemies were Jews and Communists, not slavic people. I'm not defending any of the two ideologies though. I'm just fed up with the good vs bad narrative.
Dejavo 1 year ago
@Dejavo I think it's obvious you need to read up on the racial policies of the Third Reich and the concept of ”lebensraum”. Especially in regards to the German occupations of Poland, Soviet Union and Yugoslavia, where the vast majority of civilians killed weren't Jews, except for in Poland. You may be correct with regards to "independent" Axis countries such as Hungary or Romania would have been better of (not for Jews or Gypsies though) but certainly not in the areas annexed by Germany.
TheStevenBlue 1 year ago
Typical delusional far-left fishing. You can't and will never corner Truth. Apologists for evil, those who would try to twist truth into a pretzel, to attempt to create some bizarre utopia which trumps individual human morality don't need to be ashamed of themselves - we already are doing it for you. No way to leave your mark on humanity.
dallas998 1 year ago 13
@dallas998 what an imaginable loser you are, desecrating the graves of millions of people fighting against Hitler and his armies. Such a huge waste of good air.
Signalement 7 months ago
Soviet en'one?
Jontenn 1 year ago
Sweden is nothing. Stina Dabrowski is a nothing cunt. Name once when Sweden stood up for any national crisis. The country is like a living graveyard filled intellectual lowlifes and racist scumbags who justify their zombie existence by dry knowlegde that's worth as much as the charcoal shit. They rip of from everybody else and share zero with the rest. They treat foreigners with the kind of kindness and understanding a dog would be treated with.
FlawlessCock 1 year ago 6
@FlawlessCock sd 2010 noob
masssoren 1 year ago
o.O?
FlawlessCock 1 year ago
@FlawlessCock Why so much hatred on Sweden!?
Eironaxable 1 month ago
var kan man hitta hela detta program?
masssoren 1 year ago
Hela intervjun finns att köpa på cdon.com. Stina möter...
SLinbro 1 year ago
you can buy the entire interview at
cdon.com
SLinbro 1 year ago
@masssoren I couldn't find this interview at cdon.com...is there anywhere online where one can get it for free? Thanks.
MatthewMcIntyre321 5 months ago in playlist Intervju
I don't even wanna enter the subject she's talking about. I just wanna say, God damn she makes my pants move all over the room, there is something to those eyes that says, "Take off you pants, I'm in charge and you will obey me, NOW!"
Marnaca 1 year ago
Mrs Thatcher is making a mistake when she said that Norway and Denmark stod up to the Germans. They were neutral in WW2 just like Sweden. Difference was that they were attacked, but they could make much about it after being occupied. US and UK deserves credit though for crushing Hitler.
haksve 1 year ago 4
@haksve HELLOO, Come on, Norway and Denmark were NOT neutral, but Sweden was. May I guess you are Swedish and embarassed, haksve?
Livikri 1 year ago
@Livikri Norway and Denmark actually declared themselves neutral but got invaded by Germany anyway. Sweden probably would have been invaded too if they hadn't played a double role (leading to a lot of discussable activities ofc). The question Tatcher is trying to avoid is how her apparent belief that her people is better then others is any different from
If one wants to drag all this down to a really low level one can say that Sweden actually have won wars against Russia which the US never has.
tirim4 1 year ago 3
(contin.) Hitlers. the British has done a lot of awful things by just saying that they have the right to do it as we are a better people then they are (colonization). No people is better then any other, Britain has a dark past with their colonies, Sweden has also done a lot of awful things, for example they made quite some money from slavery. THe Swedish government did what they thought was best for their country, so did Hitler and so did Churchill.
tirim4 1 year ago
@Livikri Yes I'm a Swede. No, I'm not embarrassed, why would I be? I see that you are a Norwegian and don't even know your own countrys history during WW2. You should read up a bit about it. Most smaller countries were neutral in the beginning of WW2. Yes, Norway too.
haksve 6 months ago
@haksve The first time the nazist sent ships to occupy us we fired torpedos and canons at them at the very first morning. Neutral much?
gentarion 1 month ago
did she saiy "we havent ben defeated"? what about the north american colony, US did get their independency, so UK lost they got defeated, right?.
Gurkmomma 1 year ago
@Gurkmomma Well, the clip is somewhat out of context, they're talking about the two world wars, not the entire british history.
Kushrynada 1 year ago
@Kushrynada Thats how a coward talks! Just like you!
mrSecurityGuardian 1 year ago
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@mrSecurityGuardian Well... If you are working with security, then you are the coward
Kushrynada 1 year ago
Danmark och Norge blev anfallna, dom gick inte med i kriget av någon princip att störta tyranni. Dom hade med glädje hållt sig neutrala, så som dom gjorde i WW1. Vi var åtminstone smarta nog att kunna hålla Tyskland borta från våra städer.
Concerning britain, they would've lost the war if it wasn't for the US. They sold out the czechs, abandoned Poland, were routed at Dunquerque and isolated across the channel. Weakened, dishonored, defeated.
gunseng2 1 year ago
Finns det hela intervjun på nätet???
fashistputin 1 year ago
Stina is a communist. Sweden didnt fight because the politicians had disbanded the army after WW1 and invested everything they had into the peace promised by the League of Nations.
opaz79 1 year ago
@opaz79 bla bla bla! You didnt fight nazis! And thats a fact, many countries in europe had small armies and were occupied too, and still they fought and gave their lives! Fact is you didnt fight!
mrSecurityGuardian 1 year ago 2
"History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people." Marin Luther King, Jr
LETTIS79 1 year ago 2
Mrs Thatcher: Diamond cutter
Stina: Fuzzy teddy bear
johan6021 1 year ago
This is hilarious. It's obvious Thatcher hates this woman, and I think the interviewer is slightly intimidated.
JimmyThatcher 1 year ago
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JimmyThatcher 1 year ago
I god damn love Margaret Thatcher! As a swede I'm embarrassed about the cowardice shown by Sweden during ww2. The world owes their freedom to Great Britain and the U.S, but most people show little to no gratefulness for that fact.
superkattmat 1 year ago 2
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@superkattmat Are you a complete moron? We should be proud that we did not provoke a world war like the British did. You should not interfere with other nations business!
MrMugg 1 year ago
@MrMugg
"provoke a world war"?
By standing up for allied country when they are invaded by a dictatorship?
If your friend was attacked, would you go "oh, I better not interfere with other peoples business"?
Our behaviour during WWII was disgraceful, and were it not for the US and Great Britain, it would just have been a matter of time before your beloved neutrality would have meant obedience to the fürhrer.
A neutral stance in such a situation is just an orwellian way of describing cowardice.
superkattmat 1 year ago 2
@superkattmat Yeah like we did to the finns? Germany was and have always been our friend, I'm proud we did not support the brittish and french. Thatcher is a cunt.
MrMugg 1 year ago
@MrMugg
Did I say Sweden shouldn't`t have helped Finland? No, so you remark lacks any relevance whatsoever, not surprisingly.
If you call someone who invades a non-aggressive country, slaughters innocent civilians, and stages one of the worst genocides in history your friend, then that speaks volumes about your moral code, or lack thereof.
Thatcher is the most admirable European politician ever, and Sweden should be lucky to be blessed with a person of half her character.
superkattmat 1 year ago
Har ingen pratat om Sverigedemokraterna än? Måste nåt slags internetrekord.
beatmark 1 year ago 4
Tyranni? Vad sägs om den tyranniska kolonialismen i Indien som Storbritannien utförde samtidigt under andra världskriget? Eller i Australien, USA, och alla andra länder som Storbritannien har koloniserat. Visserligen inte jämförbart med Hitlers tyranni men Storbritannien är definitivt inte fläckfria, inte på långa vägar...
how2233 1 year ago
@how2233 Håller fullständigt med dig, om inte journalisten var fullständigt inkompitent så skulle hon ha tagit upp det.
hazlark 1 year ago
Political picture of the modern world completely other calls, problems have cardinally changed, have appeared. All of us have changed the sights. If in those days the Aristocracy was afraid to politicize. That now the situation has changed. Now the new leader of world value who could unit all of us is necessary for us
Altxandr 1 year ago
Dabrowski blir ägd av Thatcher!
lyghdha 1 year ago
Jag vill så gärna se mer från denna intervjun.
arlanda7 1 year ago
Ryssarna gjorde väl den största insatsen, det "glömde" hon bort.
herroskar 2 years ago
Det är sant - två ungefär lika onda stater balanserade varandra och tur var det, för troligtvis hade varken sovjeterna eller de västallierade klarat sig ensamma mot Tyskland.
Totalt sett besegrade dock de västallierade båda de onda staterna i slutändan.
MartenThuren 2 years ago
@herroskar
Stalin var fan vidrigare än Hitler
Gichnni 1 year ago
@herroskar Största uppoffringen men inte största insatsen. Ryssarna blev så knäckta innan de allierades strategiska bombningar började få ordentlig effekt att tyskarna hann ta halva det industrialiserade Ryssland. Att ryssarna på många sätt var värre än tyskarna "glömde" du väl för övrigt bort.
Roobster88 1 year ago
@Roobster88 Så uppoffring och insats står i motsats? Pratar du om de allierades bombningar av ex Hamburg, Hiroshima och Nagasaki? För de bombningarna var ju rena statsterrorismen och inte det minsta fredsbefrämjande, men det kanske du har "glömt".
Jag är ingen förespråkare för Sovjetunionen om du tror det yankee, jag menade bara att man inte ska nonchalera ryssarnas insats/uppoffring.
herroskar 1 year ago
@herroskar Det jag menade var att de allierades insats gjorde mer skada trots att Sovjet förlorade mest. De allierades bombningar och kärnvapnen må ha lett till många civila döda men antalet bleknar jämfört med vad nazisterna och kommunisterna lyckades med. Utan strategiska bombningar mot Tyskland så hade de nog vunnit. Utan kärnvapnen som demonstration mot Sovjet hade Sovjet inte haft något hinder mot att ta över hela Europa, de hade många gånger större markstyrkor i Europa.
Roobster88 1 year ago
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Den GÖR ont för Stina för i egenskap av judinna hade hon inget hellre sett än att Sverige slängdes ut i ett meningslöst brödrakrig mot Tyskland och Hitler.
Å andra sidan har hon inget att gräma sig över. Svenskarna är idag kuvade och vågar inte knysta mot en historieunik massinvandring som kommer att utplåna det svenska folket inom några generationer.
I själva verket är debatten mellan Dabrowski och Thatcher mest smålustig och en smula förvirrad.
Drasuten 2 years ago
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Drasuten 2 years ago
Thatcher äger så jävla hårt. Jag är inte ngn partimänniska, men om hon hade ställt upp i val i Sverige hade jag stått ute i kylan och delat ut flygblad. :-)
Wiytithst 2 years ago 2
Inte rätt kärring att komma dragandes med jantelagen till direkt, ouch den måste ha gjort ont stina :-)
Johan19780301 2 years ago
Margaret Thatcher is the best!!
LS8492 2 years ago
Vi svenskar bör ju skämmas över det sossarna ställt till med så som baltutlämning svensk-balterna/ukrainarna som nekades uppehållstillstånd och framförallt den här blåsta jävla stina.......
eriik1919 2 years ago 3
@eriik1919
och så kanske bör vi också skämmas för nu aktuella kryperi (både sossarnas och borgarnas!) inför islamismen?
fashistputin 1 year ago
@fashistputin Tveklöst !
eriik1919 1 year ago 2
Margaret Thatcher is wonderful.
antidisenstable 2 years ago 31
Stina är ju dum i huvudet. Det handlar vad man syftar på som "bättre". Ska man inte få lov att säga att det är bättre i Sverige än i Saudiarabien?
Wiytithst 2 years ago
Thatcher är så jäfla bra!
GustafGothberg 2 years ago