@sup3rmann13 honestly I think the way they have handled the genesis is retarded now. I now own a Impreza WRX, and I have driven many STI's and other versions of both wrx and sti's and I think how Subaru set up there performance differences is what Hyundai should have done... But idc anymore, lol I'm doing just fine with my turbo swapped 350 hp Rex... Lol
What a useless fucking video. They are track testing a turboed rear drive with an automatic transmission. You'd think they would want people who know about cars to produce videos about them...
The 6MT tranny might have made the Gen Coupe quicker (maybe not) but 1 full second is A LOT. Then you got to consider the Civic was riding on really shitty tires.
This is stupid. Gencoupe=RWD, Si=FWD? Si's great, just dun go around saying "here's my SPORTS car" cuz it isn't. Check gencoupe forums and find with intake, exhaust, and ecu upgrade, you get good over 250 Whp. Not Si. FailWD are limited in hp, as front wheels can't take too much power.
Genesis are slow because it already have turbo plus the 23 MPG combined that sucks. put a stock turbo in a civic.. The civic will kill the Genesis. There nice though
I got a 09 white SI and theres sometihng about driving hondas. They just feel right. Easy to take for granted. I'm in love with my car and thank god Honda is leaving the racing market in the future to Hyundai and toyota and subby with their rwd cars.
Honda leaving Formula 1 is a good thing????? That's where they do alot of their research and development. That is one of the main reasons why they got into F1 in the first place. If it wasn't for F1...then God knows where they would be. Perhaps that Si would feel like a Cobalt where they just feel wrong.
it does not have enough power to slide rear end ... that is because you have auto .. next time dont waist money on pointless comparison, and get manual Gen
Tires make a HUGE difference in all performance ratings (acceleration, handling, braking).
Then, even worse, an AUTOMATIC Genesis?
An automatic changes the entire handling behavior of an underpowered RWD car like the Genesis. What tires did the Genesis have?
Not to mention, does the Genesis have an LSD? Because the Civic's helical LSD makes it the best handling FWD car on the market (when it has the $200 summer tire option).
over at Hyundaithinktank they are talking about soon realeasing the genesis coupe R-spec probably as a 2011 model, it will be lighter than the 2.0 track too. and only as a 6spd manual.
Bang for the Buck the Gen COupe is a better car. It's more mod and power friendly. They shouldn't even had done the comparison. The potential for the Gen is bigger than the civic. Gen>Civic si anyday. There is a new H in town and it's here to stay...It's the flying H....Hyundai.
who cares, the civic looks like a shoe box, the genesis is 10x cooler looking, and as far as performance this video does nothing to compare. I found it iratating to listen to this guy drone on and not give an answer, to what car he would perfer to buy.
you're a typical pussyhurt japanese/ japanophile. there is alot of sour grapes from fanboys since some Korean automaker has created a great product that some others still fail in doing
this guy is an idiot, it has plenty of power to slide out the rear. the reason the rear doesn't really come out is because this base model does not come with an lsd. and the fact that it was an automatic is retarded.
I think it was a decent enough comparison since they are in a similar price range but Dave you are way off when you say that they are similar in power to weight ratio
Why didn't they use the 2.0T track version (i.e. with the manual tranny) of the genesis? Would have been a better comparison since the Civic Si is the higher end (sportier) civic model. The comparison in this vid doesn't make much sense, who would would buy a 'track toy' and think the auto is the way to go....
two different cars but they are very similer in prices so for us comsumers , this is a good comparason~ i,mean which would you spend you,r money on?? i say~ genesis
Yeah but there are other things that matter. Honda is known for its unquestionable reliability, it gets better MPG, and they have higher resale values than the Hyundai. So if you buy it then 2 years down the road decide I want to go for something else you'd get more back with the Si. So they both have their pros and cons. For pure fun though, Genesis easily.
Might want to double check a couple of things here...The Genesis is rated slightly higher for mpg than the Si according to government testing. The difference is close enough to say they get the same mileage, though. The Gen Coupe is a brand new model, and there is not enough data for resale value, yet. Reliability is another thing that has not enough data, either.
CWLTT, don't cry because your a fan boy and a car that has nearly 100 ft-lbs more torque and 13 bhp more than the Civic Si under performed. Comparing the track model, nearly $5k more is an excellent comparison.
automatic will always lose. Second, he said he THINKS he neevr provided facts. so come back with valid facts on a car. Im actually afraid of honda civics. My best friends mom always get hits in them. shes been through the 5 one in less than 3 years. so i dunno if its a wreck magnet or she just cant drive.
You're definitely right, I feel a little bit embarassing that I wrote that kind of comment, but please understand me I was drunken when I wrote that comment and that's the reason I became slightly upset for this vid. thx anyway.
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Genesis coupe sucks considering all the dam hype. And the current Civic Si has been out for awhile now.. I would rather have a GTI, WRX, or MS3 for the price for a track model 4 cylinder. And I would DEFINITELY prefer a 2008 Evo X GSR or 370z instead of the crappy 6 cylinder HYUNDAI IMITATION G37 wannabe Korean knockoff. Korean = imitation of the Japanese.
um, im pretty damn fucking sure that a man gen coupe 2.0t would have raped a civic si stock, plus you guys chose the top of the line civic and a lower model of the gen coupe to compare.
So there is a big difference right there, you should have used a track model vs the si.
@CWLTT You do realize that they did this so the price points were the same... Top of the line genesis is close to 30grand... that's not really fair. Oh and a genesis 2.0t track is 27grand oh and it still only makes 200hp.
Read the review morons. The reviewers who maded this video already estimated that the Gen coupe with the Manual Shifter(not the automatic in this video) would cross the line somewhere between 1.5 to 2.0 seconds faster than the Civic. That equates to a lead of well over 200 feet ahead of the Civic on the track when finishing.... Well that says it all.
All you guys know that gen coupe is a tuner car? Even if it has a low hp it is made to be modded to go fast.
WorldOfIvillis 7 months ago
@sup3rmann13 honestly I think the way they have handled the genesis is retarded now. I now own a Impreza WRX, and I have driven many STI's and other versions of both wrx and sti's and I think how Subaru set up there performance differences is what Hyundai should have done... But idc anymore, lol I'm doing just fine with my turbo swapped 350 hp Rex... Lol
CWLTT 1 year ago
I would've compared the gen coupe with something like a mazdaspeed 3. But then it would've gotten blown out of the water.
lujoebonjo 1 year ago
What a useless fucking video. They are track testing a turboed rear drive with an automatic transmission. You'd think they would want people who know about cars to produce videos about them...
qazwas2001 1 year ago
The 6MT tranny might have made the Gen Coupe quicker (maybe not) but 1 full second is A LOT. Then you got to consider the Civic was riding on really shitty tires.
fstms3 1 year ago
This is stupid. Gencoupe=RWD, Si=FWD? Si's great, just dun go around saying "here's my SPORTS car" cuz it isn't. Check gencoupe forums and find with intake, exhaust, and ecu upgrade, you get good over 250 Whp. Not Si. FailWD are limited in hp, as front wheels can't take too much power.
LZKS 1 year ago
Genesis are slow because it already have turbo plus the 23 MPG combined that sucks. put a stock turbo in a civic.. The civic will kill the Genesis. There nice though
dianeinclano 1 year ago
Man this guy knows his Shize.
lionofjova 1 year ago
Stock tires on the Civic Si are indeed, HORRIBLE; kinda kills the test for me.
Dunlop DZ101's for a great compromise, or Dunlop Star Spec's for great handling and track tires, but the stock Michelin all-seasons BLOW.
ActionJeans5000 2 years ago
Hyundai has really come a long way. Very soon and if not already they'll become a very reputable car manufacturer alongside Toyota and Honda.
ayrtonsenna75 2 years ago
I got a 09 white SI and theres sometihng about driving hondas. They just feel right. Easy to take for granted. I'm in love with my car and thank god Honda is leaving the racing market in the future to Hyundai and toyota and subby with their rwd cars.
PBH111 2 years ago
Honda leaving Formula 1 is a good thing????? That's where they do alot of their research and development. That is one of the main reasons why they got into F1 in the first place. If it wasn't for F1...then God knows where they would be. Perhaps that Si would feel like a Cobalt where they just feel wrong.
ayrtonsenna75 2 years ago
it does not have enough power to slide rear end ... that is because you have auto .. next time dont waist money on pointless comparison, and get manual Gen
andbudzi 2 years ago 3
thats cool the gen is rwd.i still choose the civic cause i dont think the gen can make it through the wintersnow.
HONDATA24 2 years ago
OOH they did a automatic? well no shit! i own a 6 speed manual genesis and it rapes!!
golden290 2 years ago
This comparison was a JOKE!
An Si with all season tires?
Tires make a HUGE difference in all performance ratings (acceleration, handling, braking).
Then, even worse, an AUTOMATIC Genesis?
An automatic changes the entire handling behavior of an underpowered RWD car like the Genesis. What tires did the Genesis have?
Not to mention, does the Genesis have an LSD? Because the Civic's helical LSD makes it the best handling FWD car on the market (when it has the $200 summer tire option).
Pube83 2 years ago 3
Yes it does, and Macphersons. Good point on the tires.
lionofjova 1 year ago
The blue Genesis Coupe looks so powerful and handsome!!!!
I personally like the Genesis Coupe much more than the Civic.
hk19800 2 years ago
over at Hyundaithinktank they are talking about soon realeasing the genesis coupe R-spec probably as a 2011 model, it will be lighter than the 2.0 track too. and only as a 6spd manual.
matrixloader 2 years ago
it also depends upon the if the car had the ECS and traction control on. Hyundai makes the cars VERY nanny intrusive.
biscuitninja 2 years ago
Bang for the Buck the Gen COupe is a better car. It's more mod and power friendly. They shouldn't even had done the comparison. The potential for the Gen is bigger than the civic. Gen>Civic si anyday. There is a new H in town and it's here to stay...It's the flying H....Hyundai.
671GuamBomb 2 years ago 4
And PharmacyBoy89 thx to remind me that I was a some serious Jap hater...but fortunately, not now.
chunjaemoon 2 years ago
who cares, the civic looks like a shoe box, the genesis is 10x cooler looking, and as far as performance this video does nothing to compare. I found it iratating to listen to this guy drone on and not give an answer, to what car he would perfer to buy.
tomas599 2 years ago 3
PharmacyBoy89:
you're a typical pussyhurt japanese/ japanophile. there is alot of sour grapes from fanboys since some Korean automaker has created a great product that some others still fail in doing
gtdrifter 2 years ago
This would have been a fantastic comparison. If the Genesis was a manual. You guys really shouldn't have even done the test.
Oh, the people saying they should have tested the Track version of the Genesis are morons. It costs $5000 more than the Si in that form. Dipshits.
bkcooks1 2 years ago
I currently own a genesis 2.0T and prior to this i had,guess what ? a Civic Si and my last 2 cars were civics too.
Genesis drives way better. I hope the tester disabled the ESC and traction control otherwise it cuts power as soon as you start sliding.
I would have enjoyed a litlle bit more power , but then again you never have enough no matter how much you have
krikone 2 years ago
this guy is an idiot, it has plenty of power to slide out the rear. the reason the rear doesn't really come out is because this base model does not come with an lsd. and the fact that it was an automatic is retarded.
iamElijah 2 years ago 3
I think it was a decent enough comparison since they are in a similar price range but Dave you are way off when you say that they are similar in power to weight ratio
airalert10 2 years ago
This guy is a numb scull he drove both and can't make up his mind. Thanks for wasting my time.
rocksinger45 2 years ago 2
Why didn't they use the 2.0T track version (i.e. with the manual tranny) of the genesis? Would have been a better comparison since the Civic Si is the higher end (sportier) civic model. The comparison in this vid doesn't make much sense, who would would buy a 'track toy' and think the auto is the way to go....
thudtheace 2 years ago 4
two different cars but they are very similer in prices so for us comsumers , this is a good comparason~ i,mean which would you spend you,r money on?? i say~ genesis
tochjo772 2 years ago
Yeah but there are other things that matter. Honda is known for its unquestionable reliability, it gets better MPG, and they have higher resale values than the Hyundai. So if you buy it then 2 years down the road decide I want to go for something else you'd get more back with the Si. So they both have their pros and cons. For pure fun though, Genesis easily.
koukicrisp 2 years ago
Might want to double check a couple of things here...The Genesis is rated slightly higher for mpg than the Si according to government testing. The difference is close enough to say they get the same mileage, though. The Gen Coupe is a brand new model, and there is not enough data for resale value, yet. Reliability is another thing that has not enough data, either.
rswarrior65 1 year ago
you guys realize they had an auto tranny
TsangBokyan 2 years ago
CWLTT, don't cry because your a fan boy and a car that has nearly 100 ft-lbs more torque and 13 bhp more than the Civic Si under performed. Comparing the track model, nearly $5k more is an excellent comparison.
kidnkorner 2 years ago
automatic will always lose. Second, he said he THINKS he neevr provided facts. so come back with valid facts on a car. Im actually afraid of honda civics. My best friends mom always get hits in them. shes been through the 5 one in less than 3 years. so i dunno if its a wreck magnet or she just cant drive.
Texarmageddon 2 years ago
dave is thaaa shytt
Boostgod 2 years ago
good job compairing apples to oranges. fail.
theonlyaccordfreak 2 years ago
Compare CIVIC with GENCOUPe? I'm Korean and I know that they are whole different segment. this is not
right,
what on earth they are think'in about?
they thought that GenCoupe is similar with Civic?
chunjaemoon 2 years ago
Price range and similar engine. That's about it.
Doesn't matter if you're Korean. I don't know why Koreans always say "I'm Korean and I know".
Mondafied 2 years ago
You're definitely right, I feel a little bit embarassing that I wrote that kind of comment, but please understand me I was drunken when I wrote that comment and that's the reason I became slightly upset for this vid. thx anyway.
chunjaemoon 2 years ago
That's fine.
Mondafied 2 years ago
If it were me, I would buy a Genesis 2.0T in a heartbeat.
Mondafied 2 years ago 4
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Genesis coupe sucks considering all the dam hype. And the current Civic Si has been out for awhile now.. I would rather have a GTI, WRX, or MS3 for the price for a track model 4 cylinder. And I would DEFINITELY prefer a 2008 Evo X GSR or 370z instead of the crappy 6 cylinder HYUNDAI IMITATION G37 wannabe Korean knockoff. Korean = imitation of the Japanese.
PharmacyBoy89 2 years ago
Bull
YOU have a problem driving GC slower than civic
eddiedko 2 years ago
LOL! broad power band means "top half of rev range" ???
its2realj 2 years ago
civIC????? NOTHX!
all4dollor 2 years ago
The manual 6-speed genesis has some weight reduction done to it also in to 2.0T from the factory
untruster 2 years ago
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What a waste of time....Honda is still reliable period.
k20fg2 2 years ago
this comparison was a complete waste
pakd63 2 years ago
um, im pretty damn fucking sure that a man gen coupe 2.0t would have raped a civic si stock, plus you guys chose the top of the line civic and a lower model of the gen coupe to compare.
So there is a big difference right there, you should have used a track model vs the si.
this vid is sooo stupid.
CWLTT 2 years ago 9
@CWLTT You do realize that they did this so the price points were the same... Top of the line genesis is close to 30grand... that's not really fair. Oh and a genesis 2.0t track is 27grand oh and it still only makes 200hp.
sup3rmann13 1 year ago
Read the review morons. The reviewers who maded this video already estimated that the Gen coupe with the Manual Shifter(not the automatic in this video) would cross the line somewhere between 1.5 to 2.0 seconds faster than the Civic. That equates to a lead of well over 200 feet ahead of the Civic on the track when finishing.... Well that says it all.
navypond 2 years ago 5
who in the right mind would ever choose civic over genesis lol not if you know anything about cars lol
tochjo772 2 years ago 3
true...! and please dont talk about reliability or brand... because people who know about cars dont realli care about that stuff as much.
its2realj 2 years ago
you guys are fucking gay
destroi 2 years ago
Fail Wheel Drive. Enough said.
ConceptVBS 2 years ago 4
no shit genesis owns....comparing track time with an automatic car = fail.....
sprisneo 2 years ago 5
CIVIC = FRONT WHEEL DRIVE = FAIL !
dance2noise002 2 years ago 10
I'm having the problem of choosing between these two cars
ruunit 2 years ago