You just know the Fox shithead would pound the point nonstop if anyone mentioned a Christian display that included the word God. "But again, why did you include the word God? Don't you realize how many atheists you're offending?" - over & over. If the roles were reversed, and the atheist were the drooling moron, I know it would be the atheist who was served up a softball question and then allowed to drone on and on. I know that's how it would all go because I know that Fox is "fair and balanced"
That's a pretty tame message compared to some of the mean-spirited stuff I've heard from both sides. "Religion is a mental illness," "Repent or burn in hell," it's all the same. But only a fool would say you need religion to be a good person.
Boy, does this journalist miss the point - unbelievable how blind faith can cloud rational thought. He asks why they didn't opt for "more of an atheist message" like "Feel good about yourself". If you saw a message on the side of a bus that said "Feel good about yourself", would you really think it was an "atheist message". Commendable how restrained the atheist was here in the face of such ignorance - from media no less...
Listen to Steve Doocy go full-on O'Reilly at 3:24, not making any sort of valid point, of course, but aggressively asserting his indignation about... whatever it is that he's feeling indignant about. Ridiculous.
Sucks to Fox News and double sucks to all moron religious zealots that resent an atheist's right to express his/her opinions. I mean, obviously God invented America, and he hired the guys that wrote the Bill of Rights, so that's how He wants it to work. Right?
@mrtadreamer Give an example in which they aren't. Or rather, in which they're doing something "evil" that believers don't do just as regularly. Less than .5% of American prison inmates are atheists. The rest believe in God, and over 70% are Christians.
@DilvishW It's common in the penal system to mark "religious" on forms in order to influence staff, and parol boards, all of that "good behavior" "rehab" thing that can get an early parol, none of which has anything to do with spiritual conversion. Moreover, a number of inmates do in fact convert to Christianity because of wide spread prison minitreis and gain new lives because of that.
@mrtadreamer Even if 30% of the people who marked Christian, weren't Christian. And 20% were in-prison converts (both absurdly generous hypotheticals), that's still 20% Christians vs .5% Atheists. That's an enormous gap. So, when you ask "If atheists can be good without God, then why aren't they?" I have to question just what in the hell you are talking about? Statistically, Christians are more likely to do wrong than Atheists. What evidence do you have that Atheists aren't doing good?
@mrtadreamer Ha. You're hilarious. For all you know, I volunteer every day at a soup kitchen and donate regularly to feed the homeless, but because I used a common colloquialism to question your inherently offensive statement, you feel safe "resting your case." If that's the only evidence you can use to support your argument, I rest my case.
@DilvishW As for your other question, Christians haven't done anything that atheists haven't, except to repent and gain new lives through Jesus Christ.
America still believes that a snake convinced a woman to eat an apple and because of that we get old as a punishment. \m/ It´s written on a book, so it MUST be true , right !?
Why do religious people, who have no proof of the prattle they spew, use the word "truth" so much? Without evidence, there is no truth in what they say.
Who gives a damn if a Christian is offended when an atheist says he doesn't believe in God and erects a sign or put up an ad to say so. There are lots and lots of very offensive Christian billboards all over the southern states making hideous threats to passersby.
"blah blah creator god makes everyone equal" hey pastor why dont u drive your mercedes out into somalia and tell some starving ppl that they are equal.
@83redrose83 It's like the Christians get off on warring with each other while professing their particular sect is the correct one. It's like the Christians get off on imposing their beliefs in every aspect of the American culture. It's like the Christians get off on cherry picking scientific data and taking points way out of context. It's like the Christians get off on sinning <-- I just did so much with those last few words. I believe Christians should just well... GET OFF.
It's amazing what Christians find offensive, they claim to stand on a mountain of "truth", but yet are offended at "You can be good without God". I would not be offended if I saw a sign that said "The Earth is flat", no more than when I see signs that say: "God loves you", or "Jesus is coming" . I don't find nonsense offensive, but sometimes the real truth (like "You can be good without God") hurts, now if your offended by that... tuff shit.
@SpaceFrawg Absolutely, I think peolple uses God for all sorts of mean and discriminating behaviour. Like spanking children, feeling superior and lots of other "bad" things. Atheist are usually calm, well-educated and intelligent.
Correct thing for Binder to say to Doocy: "You're a moron."
People mention what they're against in arguments so their statements have impact against a certain target., even if they don't think that thing exists. Just saying "You can feel good about yourself" is incredibly vague and could apply to anything, but "You can be good without God" is specifically atheist.
Having seen this, I'm sure I could get a job at FOX News if I just spew nonsensical right-winged bias.
Only in America - The Us was seperated from Europe which underwent enlightment, so today we would never have this type of disscussion - best demonstrated with this utube clip, search for :- (Charles Prentiss' prejudice of the ambassador) - Basically Europeans see a public expression of one's faith on par with masterbation. Perfectly normal as 99% of people conduct this in private or amoung like minded consenting adults, but we take a dim view if seen in a public place or in politics
@adler2adler Actually, the Bill of Rights doesn't say that at all. The closest thing it has to mentioning god is the freedom of religion portion of the 1st Amendment.
That's in the Declaration of Independence. And Binder should've informed that idiot of that fact.
You heard them both! the First Amendment is a "loophole"!
... he also seems to think that it was written by God, despite his disdain for it. I for one am offended by this stance. It is an offensive stance to have. Fox owes a big apology to all the soldiers who ever fought and died to protect this "loophole," and they should admit to their hypocrisy in using it as excuse to lie while simultaneously denegrating it. Such behavior and lack of understanding is the height of anti-Americanism.
Jesus fucking Christ on a popsicle stick. Taylor actually said the line "We hold these truths..endowed by our creator..." was from the Bill of Rights!?!?!?!?!
It was in the Declaration of Independence, which does not stand as an arbitor of U.S. law. Taylor was only 13 years and several legal documents off. There is no mention of "god" in the Bill of Rights. There is mention of "religion," but the first ammendment plainly limits religion's potential authority over public policy.
Fox News, you are IDIOTS for stirring up something over nothing. And that preacher coes across as so inbred Hillbilly cornpone no-brain he make me want to laugh so hard that I'll end up throwing up. Learn how to speak proper English while you're at it, Elmer, before you try to force your kindergarten-level beliefs and Redneck LIFESTYLE on the rest of us!!
I'm always amazed by the religious idiocy, especially in the Bible Belt. The sign isn't even making a religious comment, or an anti-theist comment, its reaching out to other atheists.
Bloomington, and most of Indiana, are nearly zealotous with their religion. They NEED people out there supporting the closeted atheists trying to get by out there.
Wasn't there some Christian fundie whom bragged about free speech and the right to burn "holy books" just to poke muslims in the eye?
Now we have another Christian fundie trying to warp the 1st Amendment and wants to sencor something HE think is "inflammatory". Now RWers are whining like F'ing crybabies whom think that religionists as long as they are Christians have a right not to be offended.
Fair and balanced anyone? Or even something that resembles impartial journalism?
LOL I laughed at the end when the Atheist pwned the two morons when he said "they will be appearing on the buses this Fall" just going to show that the Supreme Court backed the Atheists' right to do this and showing that these two morons obviously have no clue about what is actually Constitutional and what isn't. I hate when morons like these react to stories in such an asshole manner without even first finding out about the full story. Fuck them, and fuck religion.
The very first question asked was the most ridiculous and utterly retarded question I've ever heard. So the mere mention of something that doesn't exist somehow means that it actually DOES exist? By talking about fictional characters that means that those fictional characters actually do in fact exist? What kind of retarded logic is that? It's so retarded it actually hurts my brain. The host deserves to feel pain in the form of a punch to the face as payback for my irked brain.
"You do not believe in God and yet you sue to get God in you ad, why?"
I never thought such a nonsensical question could ever be asked.
Asking that question would be like asking "You don't believe UFO are genuine and yet you are trying to sell a book about their improbability, why?"
It just makes no sense, you can be an atheist and you can still talk about God, like you can believe UFO sightings are false and still talk about them.
As a non-believer I find the idea that I should believe in an imaginary man in the sky offensive. We all entitled to be offended. That's what free-speech is. Good luck going through life without being offended.
The "Reverend" got to spout absolute bollocks for 2 minutes uninterrupted - and the atheist was unable to get a sentence out without being interrupted by the host.
@TheInternetWanderer You're insulting me about acting like a "big man" when you're being just as insulting and even more condescending to me and the "kiddies" as you call them.
@peachdica - The religious right hates atheists because they have a different opinion; the atheists hate the religious right for the same reason. How is this not "hypocrisy"? Do know what this word even means?
You go ahead and call me your little names, you just prove my point with each insult. --- I'm laughing at you.
He's offended at the mere mention of the word 'God' in the ad? So what, does he own the word or something? Then what about the fact that religion is in atheists' faces all the time -- should atheists go around being offended and belligerent like him all the time?
Also, notice how the christain outright lies about the Bill of Rights and says ".....that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator god...." they always slip the word god in even though it's not there.
"why include god in an atheist advertisement?!" Because atheism is simply the belief there is no god or higher power. It is not a moral or political stance. There is no code or anything else associated with it.
Notice how no one ever throws a fit about signs being put up that say stuff like "You need God in Your Life" or "Seek Jesus", but the Christians have to get their panties all in a bunch over one sign promoting morality to atheists.
And the sign had the word "god" in it because the only way to identify atheists is by their absence of belief in gods or religions.
A fair and balanced debate? The interviewer let the pastor speak for ages uninterrupted. Then, when the pastor finished speaking, rather than probing him, encouraged him to carry on his spiel!
Boo hoo, "an outright attack on Christianity...by the left" It said absolutely nothing about christianity. It is only saying that you can be good as an Atheist. See why these religious zealots are losing ground? Poor little 80%...so oppressed !!!
Well I am an atheist and I am offended by your freakin church signs everywhere, the fucking dollar bill and the pledge, because I don't believe in God. Now shut the fuck up about a fucking bus ad, you got your imaginary friend on the fucking dollar bill, like seriously. If you have such strong faith in this stuff, why are you so threatened by a bus ad? It's like Christians has to be in 100% control all the time or they freak out!
So in other words they have nothing rational or sensible to say, they are just offended by a pretty light ad that acknowledges atheists and non-believers in general.
I had to walk past a billboard that said 'Spare the rod and spoil the child' everyday. A child abuse ad.
These atheist men can believe what they want. I choose to believe in Christ. As John 3:16 says who ever chooses to believe in Christ will have ever lasting life in Heaven. If the atheist men are right, nothing will happen when I die, but if Christians are right, I will go to Heaven and the atheists will go to Hell. I wouldn't gamble being atheist. Christians have nothing to lose, but all to gain. Atheist men have nothing to gain, but all to lose. I think I will stay Christian.
@goshjosh2010 Religious huckster-ism at it's worst and most base. That's the deal that a used-car salesman would make. If you think that then you are just hedging your bets and you don't have a shred of intellectual integrity.
It's pretty sad that many christians feel attacked when the mere existence of atheists is acknowledged. How weak their faith must be. I cannot even fathom how someone could be offended by the statement 'you can be good without god' (nonbelievers aren't evil)
I drive past churches everyday. I've seen signs and billboards stating that I'm destined for hell. Yet I don't throw a hissy fit over it. I recognize their right to say what they want (no matter how ridiculous it is)
Quite obvious whose side the host was on. Do people really watch Fox news? I'm Canadian so I don't think we get it up here but from what I've seen of it, it is the LEAST fair and balanced reporting in any democracy on earth.
i support free speech either way even though i think putting a christian or an atheist sign is stupid, it's npt goint to covert anyone, it's just going to piss people off.
"putting a christian or an atheist sign is stupid, it's npt goint to covert anyone, it's just going to piss people off."
Firstly, is this true? Does propaganda in that form not affect people? I think you are wrong. But even if it has no efect of that kind, what makes you think that would be the reason, or only reason for the signs?
Being a dick and making pointless arguments does not make you look smart or balanced. If you have nothing to contribute, don't.
@surlagachette2 "Being a dick and making pointless arguments does not make you look smart or balanced. If you have nothing to contribute, don't."
If anyones being the dick its you. These religus/atheist signs are justa nice way of shoving your opinions down other people's throat. In the short run these sign will work but not in the long run. Learn to tolerate ideas other than your own
.. and don't ever waste my time with your stupid replys again
This is the most benign Atheist message I have ever seen. I can't believe the prick preacher is putting up a stink. He should just be happy we haven't caught him diddling little boys yet.-------------Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;
So whats the message of the bus ad? They atheists could be good too? That's not bad. They don't say Christianity is wrong, or evil. If there is an ad that says "You can not be good without God" that is offensive. It's saying that atheists are evil. Someone is being attacked.
Pastor Tony Taylor doesn't know his US history very well. Everything from 2:05 thru 2:40 is all wrong. There is nothing remotely close to what he said in the Bill of Rights and I challenge anyone to show it to me. Religious people have denigrated non-believers for centuries. I guess they don't like it when they see there superstition coming apart.
Morality is not unique to humanity or from religion, I'm sure many have seen the video of the Hippo and the Impala and of Whales in their prime helping their elders and sick, there's a ton of stuff we don't see.
"Don't you feel like...you have to realize that there are a lot of Christian's in that area that are highly offended by this!"
OH NOEZ! Offending them! I suppose Christian's are just much less tolerant than atheist's who don't seem to throw a fit everytime there's a Church banner proclaiming JESUS IS LORD.
Besides, "you can be good without god" offends you? You're so engraved with NEEDING god that it offends you that people can be good without one? That's actually really sad.
Well when we're constantly defending ourselves how can we be respectful? How can we be respectful when we're not being respected? We're the least trusted group in the US.
The Pastor is a moron. He clearly has not read the Constitution or Bill of Rights. He also is in denial that there are other religions that have gods.
@AtheistsRdumb Actually the ad intentionally says "In the beginning man created God" because atheists don't believe in God, therefore the concept of God must have been created by a person. If the ad said "God created man" then that would be advertising the biblical viewpoint that people were created by God, which wouldn't make sense as part of an atheist bus campaign.
so, its ok for religious groups to put up signs telling people the need god, or that god loves them, etc. but athiests put up a sing saying you dont need god to be good, and its offensive? sounds blatantly hypocritical to me. if they can put pro-god signs up, then atheists should be able to put anti-god signs up, plain and simple.
i see how it is. christians are able to go door to door, and put up signs showing their beliefs, but when an atheist tries to, he gets attacked by idiotic assholes like these people.
not sure if this was mentioned or not yet, but the Declaration of Independence says "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights" not "their Creator God" as mentioned by Mr. Tony Taylor in the discussion. A small yet important difference he neglects to distinguish.
Why does he get so upset about the use of the word "god"? If you're talking about tomato sauce you have to use the word tomato in your discussion! They had to use the word god, otherwise the add would be very very vague.
somehow, if someone suggests that there is no god this is offensive to Christians? I find the idea of a God and the sick mythology around it, especially the Christian and Muslim versions to be offensive.
If this is the standard, then there should not be any Religious billboards or public churches either as then it would be offensive to Atheists.
In fact, when do christians get special treatment? This nation has increasingly been diverted from the fact that all people are created equal. By the way, I never remember reading anything about christianity or god in our foundation government. In fact, it was a little something called separation of church and state. Many people do not realize that they were separated to protect the government from religion, not the other way around.
Furthermore, I noticed the anchor (or so seemingly "mediator") of the report suggested to the atheist that he exclude denoting an absense of god in the ad. Okay, if they excluded god, their message would not be relayed. They are trying to silence a common fallacy within the christian world that without god, you will have no ethics or morals.
Though I am an atheist, I try to see the christian side of the argument, but every time I see that they fail to do just that. Atheism is a whopping minority in america and thus do not get to voice their opinion as freely as christians, who seem to get to flail their propaganda into every aspect of american living.
There are three models of Government competing for world domination:
(1) Communist / atheist: where government officials decide and dole out your temporal rights if any
(2) Sharia Law: where the Qu'ron governs
(3) Judeo-Christian model, where God grants our rights & liberties and THEREFORE they are unalienable, power resides in we the people, we are sovereign and the government is our servant.
i jus wanna know who wrote the bible then? did one man write the bible? did a group of dudes come together and say to themselves...lets write a fucking epic, right now! i wanna know...
I live in Birmingham, Alabama, arguably the most Christian city in the nation.
What I find most offensive about Christians is that they lie to each other and themselves about their beliefs. Most people down here claim to believe in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, yet daily, I see and interact in activities with theses people that are completely secular.
The truth is, Christians love to be atheist but are scared that the other Christians around them will not invite them to their party.
Sometimes when I day dream, I realize that people actually believe in these kind of tales that is religion, and that some of these individuals dedicate small or large parts of their lives to it. Isn't that... desolating? Though I'm happy there's still some "sane" people out there.
@alliteration1247 if adsolecki isn't saying that, and they may well be, then there are many, many people who will and should say that. ANY religious belief is at best mental deficiency and at worst wilfully ignorantly evil. This isn’t my opinion or a moral statement it is just, unequivocally, the way of things.
its funny how people weren't alowed to put signs up like that but churches can put up signs like "gods wisdom triumps human intelligence" or "30 seconds after you die you will know we're right"!
My stepfather is an Athiest and he donates firewood to charity, works as a special needs teachers, and he's an overall nice person. This prooves that you don't need religion to be good.
You know, I don't think it's an inflammatory attack or anything but I don't understand the NEED for this sign. I think this is just contributing to the problem of "Oh, you don't believe what I believe let's bicker about it." People need to leave eachother's religions and lack-there-ofs alone. I mean if there can't be a church sign on the bus then why can there be an atheist sign on it?
"why put God in an ad when you dont believe in God" That is like saying why say you play Mario if he is not real.
GamingWithStatoke 1 week ago
You just know the Fox shithead would pound the point nonstop if anyone mentioned a Christian display that included the word God. "But again, why did you include the word God? Don't you realize how many atheists you're offending?" - over & over. If the roles were reversed, and the atheist were the drooling moron, I know it would be the atheist who was served up a softball question and then allowed to drone on and on. I know that's how it would all go because I know that Fox is "fair and balanced"
VeryEvilPettingZoo 2 weeks ago
That's a pretty tame message compared to some of the mean-spirited stuff I've heard from both sides. "Religion is a mental illness," "Repent or burn in hell," it's all the same. But only a fool would say you need religion to be a good person.
Christhefireshark 3 weeks ago
Boy, does this journalist miss the point - unbelievable how blind faith can cloud rational thought. He asks why they didn't opt for "more of an atheist message" like "Feel good about yourself". If you saw a message on the side of a bus that said "Feel good about yourself", would you really think it was an "atheist message". Commendable how restrained the atheist was here in the face of such ignorance - from media no less...
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Listen to Steve Doocy go full-on O'Reilly at 3:24, not making any sort of valid point, of course, but aggressively asserting his indignation about... whatever it is that he's feeling indignant about. Ridiculous.
Sucks to Fox News and double sucks to all moron religious zealots that resent an atheist's right to express his/her opinions. I mean, obviously God invented America, and he hired the guys that wrote the Bill of Rights, so that's how He wants it to work. Right?
vehement252 1 month ago
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vehement252 1 month ago
Atheism = Hypocrisy
Nobleeagle100 1 month ago
@Nobleeagle100
How?
Joroshira 1 month ago
If atheists can be good without God, then why aren't they?
mrtadreamer 1 month ago
@mrtadreamer Give an example in which they aren't. Or rather, in which they're doing something "evil" that believers don't do just as regularly. Less than .5% of American prison inmates are atheists. The rest believe in God, and over 70% are Christians.
DilvishW 1 month ago
@DilvishW It's common in the penal system to mark "religious" on forms in order to influence staff, and parol boards, all of that "good behavior" "rehab" thing that can get an early parol, none of which has anything to do with spiritual conversion. Moreover, a number of inmates do in fact convert to Christianity because of wide spread prison minitreis and gain new lives because of that.
mrtadreamer 1 month ago
@mrtadreamer Even if 30% of the people who marked Christian, weren't Christian. And 20% were in-prison converts (both absurdly generous hypotheticals), that's still 20% Christians vs .5% Atheists. That's an enormous gap. So, when you ask "If atheists can be good without God, then why aren't they?" I have to question just what in the hell you are talking about? Statistically, Christians are more likely to do wrong than Atheists. What evidence do you have that Atheists aren't doing good?
DilvishW 1 month ago
@DilvishW yep, "what the hell are you talking about" i can tell by your invective, you're a very good atheist indeed. i rest my case.
mrtadreamer 1 month ago
@mrtadreamer Ha. You're hilarious. For all you know, I volunteer every day at a soup kitchen and donate regularly to feed the homeless, but because I used a common colloquialism to question your inherently offensive statement, you feel safe "resting your case." If that's the only evidence you can use to support your argument, I rest my case.
DilvishW 1 month ago
@DilvishW "common colloquialism" polluted water comes only from polluted wells.
mrtadreamer 1 month ago
@DilvishW As for your other question, Christians haven't done anything that atheists haven't, except to repent and gain new lives through Jesus Christ.
mrtadreamer 1 month ago
If you don't like living in a Judeo-Christian nation, they're the border. Hit it and don't even think of looking back.
mrtadreamer 1 month ago
America still believes that a snake convinced a woman to eat an apple and because of that we get old as a punishment. \m/ It´s written on a book, so it MUST be true , right !?
bmartins6018 1 month ago
Two out of three of those people are fucking retarded.
dunkel25 2 months ago
Fair and balanced my arse!!
japeye62 2 months ago
That is some hardcore stupid shit they spew. Fox news just loves to shove it's dick in everything they don't understand
VoodooTheGhost 3 months ago
Why do religious people, who have no proof of the prattle they spew, use the word "truth" so much? Without evidence, there is no truth in what they say.
Who gives a damn if a Christian is offended when an atheist says he doesn't believe in God and erects a sign or put up an ad to say so. There are lots and lots of very offensive Christian billboards all over the southern states making hideous threats to passersby.
ChipArgyle 3 months ago
"removing god out of anything to do with public or politcs" And yet they're fighting about including "god" in an atheist message.
Jesus christ, fuck off fox.
Kotszu 5 months ago
"blah blah creator god makes everyone equal" hey pastor why dont u drive your mercedes out into somalia and tell some starving ppl that they are equal.
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83redrose83 5 months ago
@83redrose83 It's like the Christians get off on warring with each other while professing their particular sect is the correct one. It's like the Christians get off on imposing their beliefs in every aspect of the American culture. It's like the Christians get off on cherry picking scientific data and taking points way out of context. It's like the Christians get off on sinning <-- I just did so much with those last few words. I believe Christians should just well... GET OFF.
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83redrose83 5 months ago
It's amazing what Christians find offensive, they claim to stand on a mountain of "truth", but yet are offended at "You can be good without God". I would not be offended if I saw a sign that said "The Earth is flat", no more than when I see signs that say: "God loves you", or "Jesus is coming" . I don't find nonsense offensive, but sometimes the real truth (like "You can be good without God") hurts, now if your offended by that... tuff shit.
SpaceFrawg 6 months ago
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83redrose83 5 months ago
@83redrose83 Do you think people can be good without God ?
SpaceFrawg 5 months ago
@SpaceFrawg Absolutely, I think peolple uses God for all sorts of mean and discriminating behaviour. Like spanking children, feeling superior and lots of other "bad" things. Atheist are usually calm, well-educated and intelligent.
marqann 2 months ago
Correct thing for Binder to say to Doocy: "You're a moron."
People mention what they're against in arguments so their statements have impact against a certain target., even if they don't think that thing exists. Just saying "You can feel good about yourself" is incredibly vague and could apply to anything, but "You can be good without God" is specifically atheist.
Having seen this, I'm sure I could get a job at FOX News if I just spew nonsensical right-winged bias.
Blarghonius 6 months ago 2
How could anyone be offended by such a positive message. Leave it to FOX to be so biased.
JustSpeculating 7 months ago
Only in America - The Us was seperated from Europe which underwent enlightment, so today we would never have this type of disscussion - best demonstrated with this utube clip, search for :- (Charles Prentiss' prejudice of the ambassador) - Basically Europeans see a public expression of one's faith on par with masterbation. Perfectly normal as 99% of people conduct this in private or amoung like minded consenting adults, but we take a dim view if seen in a public place or in politics
sirarchiebald 8 months ago
GOD DAMN IT I FUCKING HATE FOX NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Way to interrupt the dude trying to answer questions like 5 times asshole
MzaAndy 8 months ago
Oh look, at the slightest bit of resistance from atheists the poor persecuted Christians play the victim card of "I'm offended". Truly pathetic
dragonsder 8 months ago
The Bill of rights says CREATOR- its doesnt say God- Big difference
adler2adler 8 months ago
@adler2adler Actually, the Bill of Rights doesn't say that at all. The closest thing it has to mentioning god is the freedom of religion portion of the 1st Amendment.
That's in the Declaration of Independence. And Binder should've informed that idiot of that fact.
gimmethegepgun 4 months ago
why are so many christian pastors nothing more than seething hateful bigots. how is that bloated moron threatened by a simple statement of fact.
mcmanustony 8 months ago
fair and balanced debate my ass he gave the atheist slanted questions and that fat biggot a free ride fuck fox news fuck fox news fuck fox news
arcaniondeath666 8 months ago
I don't know if there is anymore of an atheist comment than, "you can be good without god."
jojogonzo 8 months ago
You heard them both! the First Amendment is a "loophole"!
... he also seems to think that it was written by God, despite his disdain for it. I for one am offended by this stance. It is an offensive stance to have. Fox owes a big apology to all the soldiers who ever fought and died to protect this "loophole," and they should admit to their hypocrisy in using it as excuse to lie while simultaneously denegrating it. Such behavior and lack of understanding is the height of anti-Americanism.
JonasPlanck 8 months ago
crybabies! Fox news are idiots.
zachiase55 8 months ago
Knowing and believing are two different things. Those who think know that. Those who believe deny it.
vinyl45s4ever 8 months ago
@0:26 funniest thing said in the whole video: "Let's join us right now for a FAIR and BALANCED debate" LMFAO..good ol' Fox News.
Leila02124 8 months ago
Jesus fucking Christ on a popsicle stick. Taylor actually said the line "We hold these truths..endowed by our creator..." was from the Bill of Rights!?!?!?!?!
It was in the Declaration of Independence, which does not stand as an arbitor of U.S. law. Taylor was only 13 years and several legal documents off. There is no mention of "god" in the Bill of Rights. There is mention of "religion," but the first ammendment plainly limits religion's potential authority over public policy.
Ematched 9 months ago
And the garbage the religious paste all over the the country offends me so get over it.
If you believe stupid shit you should be prepared to be challanged.
denisasitis 9 months ago 2
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Fox News, you are IDIOTS for stirring up something over nothing. And that preacher coes across as so inbred Hillbilly cornpone no-brain he make me want to laugh so hard that I'll end up throwing up. Learn how to speak proper English while you're at it, Elmer, before you try to force your kindergarten-level beliefs and Redneck LIFESTYLE on the rest of us!!
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JCJasion 9 months ago
Christianity are very easily offended. Even a slight challenge in their faith will make them waver.
Neosaigo 9 months ago
Fuck Fox News.
bobster451 9 months ago
I do not see how people can get offended when someone says that humans can be good without anyone forcing them to be good.
ensittare 9 months ago
@ensittare - the term we use is "" be good for goodness sake"" it has a nice ring to it
sirarchiebald 8 months ago
I'm always amazed by the religious idiocy, especially in the Bible Belt. The sign isn't even making a religious comment, or an anti-theist comment, its reaching out to other atheists.
Bloomington, and most of Indiana, are nearly zealotous with their religion. They NEED people out there supporting the closeted atheists trying to get by out there.
DeadlyChinchilla 9 months ago
Damn that host is dumb.
Wesker10000 9 months ago
Wasn't there some Christian fundie whom bragged about free speech and the right to burn "holy books" just to poke muslims in the eye?
Now we have another Christian fundie trying to warp the 1st Amendment and wants to sencor something HE think is "inflammatory". Now RWers are whining like F'ing crybabies whom think that religionists as long as they are Christians have a right not to be offended.
Fair and balanced anyone? Or even something that resembles impartial journalism?
bohemianwriter1 9 months ago 2
Awww! Xtians feels persecuted when someone are showing in their face what the truth about their religion is.
And now, the attack frees speech and claim inflamatory writings. I bet this preacher was all for book burnings of the Quran.
And now HE accuses atheists of having an agenda?
Thomas Jefferson would laugh his ass off by the stunning hyp;ocricyn this fundie displays.
And why are FOX still bias and enemeis of free speech?
Why are you so upset about Xtian morons being offended?
bohemianwriter1 9 months ago
LOL I laughed at the end when the Atheist pwned the two morons when he said "they will be appearing on the buses this Fall" just going to show that the Supreme Court backed the Atheists' right to do this and showing that these two morons obviously have no clue about what is actually Constitutional and what isn't. I hate when morons like these react to stories in such an asshole manner without even first finding out about the full story. Fuck them, and fuck religion.
VitalSigns1 9 months ago 2
The very first question asked was the most ridiculous and utterly retarded question I've ever heard. So the mere mention of something that doesn't exist somehow means that it actually DOES exist? By talking about fictional characters that means that those fictional characters actually do in fact exist? What kind of retarded logic is that? It's so retarded it actually hurts my brain. The host deserves to feel pain in the form of a punch to the face as payback for my irked brain.
VitalSigns1 9 months ago
@VitalSigns1 Steve Doocy is not very smart, so I would not really expect him to ask very good questions.
edgwaterprog 9 months ago
"You do not believe in God and yet you sue to get God in you ad, why?"
I never thought such a nonsensical question could ever be asked.
Asking that question would be like asking "You don't believe UFO are genuine and yet you are trying to sell a book about their improbability, why?"
It just makes no sense, you can be an atheist and you can still talk about God, like you can believe UFO sightings are false and still talk about them.
This guy is a moron.
P.S. right guy is a huge moron too.
JonBj2 9 months ago
As a non-believer I find the idea that I should believe in an imaginary man in the sky offensive. We all entitled to be offended. That's what free-speech is. Good luck going through life without being offended.
MegaZeusThor 9 months ago
That was awful.
The "Reverend" got to spout absolute bollocks for 2 minutes uninterrupted - and the atheist was unable to get a sentence out without being interrupted by the host.
jazzx251 9 months ago
Looks like it's hot as hell where the christian is sitting... =P
flyyyer 10 months ago
The extreme religous right and the extreme atheist left are all a bunch of idiots. Play nice kiddies!
TheInternetWanderer 10 months ago
@TheInternetWanderer You're such a douche.
peachdica 10 months ago
@peachdica - another big man with a keyboard!
TheInternetWanderer 9 months ago
@TheInternetWanderer Are you completely unaware of your hypocrisy here or are you just a troll?
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TheInternetWanderer 9 months ago
@TheInternetWanderer Self-deception is loads of fun, isn't it?
peachdica 9 months ago
@peachdica - "Self-deception"? Tell me, how am I deceiving myself? Enlighten all of us with your infinite wisdom.
TheInternetWanderer 9 months ago
@TheInternetWanderer You're insulting me about acting like a "big man" when you're being just as insulting and even more condescending to me and the "kiddies" as you call them.
peachdica 9 months ago
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@peachdica - The religious right hates atheists because they have a different opinion; the atheists hate the religious right for the same reason. How is this not "hypocrisy"? Do know what this word even means?
You go ahead and call me your little names, you just prove my point with each insult. --- I'm laughing at you.
TheInternetWanderer 9 months ago
@TheInternetWanderer what is worse in your book, 9\11 or the slave trade???
JesusChristHasAIDS 9 months ago
@JesusChristHasAIDS - Slave trade (they're not comparable)....but what's your point?
TheInternetWanderer 9 months ago
@TheInternetWanderer liberals usually say "slave trade" but the conservatives always say 9/11,
I personally can't decide which was more awesome =)
JesusChristHasAIDS 9 months ago
"A movement by the left". I'm a Libertarian and I don't believe in god. This pastor is one dumb mofo.
b1gr1g 10 months ago
Fox ..... even stupid people need a voice. The more you watch, the less you know.
perfectbark 10 months ago
The accent fits the retard.
theUSER101 10 months ago
He's offended at the mere mention of the word 'God' in the ad? So what, does he own the word or something? Then what about the fact that religion is in atheists' faces all the time -- should atheists go around being offended and belligerent like him all the time?
nuderobot 10 months ago 6
Just because you're offended by something doesn't give you a right to try and censor it. Freedom of speech is designated for the unpopular opinion.
Account4TheMusic 10 months ago 2
We non-believers need to continue to take the fight to the Christians and other religious zealots in an in your face way.
uFlubber 10 months ago 2
Also, notice how the christain outright lies about the Bill of Rights and says ".....that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator god...." they always slip the word god in even though it's not there.
It says "their Creator" to encompass everyone.
deveraux009 10 months ago
@deveraux009 Evolution created me
deveraux009 10 months ago
"why include god in an atheist advertisement?!" Because atheism is simply the belief there is no god or higher power. It is not a moral or political stance. There is no code or anything else associated with it.
lambofkhan 10 months ago
Have you ever notice how many southerners are christians? Just sayin'!!!
yourjunk420 10 months ago
Notice how no one ever throws a fit about signs being put up that say stuff like "You need God in Your Life" or "Seek Jesus", but the Christians have to get their panties all in a bunch over one sign promoting morality to atheists.
And the sign had the word "god" in it because the only way to identify atheists is by their absence of belief in gods or religions.
stormsiren609 11 months ago
A fair and balanced debate? The interviewer let the pastor speak for ages uninterrupted. Then, when the pastor finished speaking, rather than probing him, encouraged him to carry on his spiel!
Unbelievable.
cmatcmextra 11 months ago
You can tell the levels of their intelligence from the way they talk.
thewarrior357 11 months ago
Boo hoo, "an outright attack on Christianity...by the left" It said absolutely nothing about christianity. It is only saying that you can be good as an Atheist. See why these religious zealots are losing ground? Poor little 80%...so oppressed !!!
orangemod 11 months ago
i love how i don't believe in an invisible wizard judge in the sky but people look at me like i'm the crazy one
skippydeenice 11 months ago
Well I am an atheist and I am offended by your freakin church signs everywhere, the fucking dollar bill and the pledge, because I don't believe in God. Now shut the fuck up about a fucking bus ad, you got your imaginary friend on the fucking dollar bill, like seriously. If you have such strong faith in this stuff, why are you so threatened by a bus ad? It's like Christians has to be in 100% control all the time or they freak out!
sh0werp0wer 1 year ago 5
So in other words they have nothing rational or sensible to say, they are just offended by a pretty light ad that acknowledges atheists and non-believers in general.
I had to walk past a billboard that said 'Spare the rod and spoil the child' everyday. A child abuse ad.
Neanderthalcouzin 1 year ago
These atheist men can believe what they want. I choose to believe in Christ. As John 3:16 says who ever chooses to believe in Christ will have ever lasting life in Heaven. If the atheist men are right, nothing will happen when I die, but if Christians are right, I will go to Heaven and the atheists will go to Hell. I wouldn't gamble being atheist. Christians have nothing to lose, but all to gain. Atheist men have nothing to gain, but all to lose. I think I will stay Christian.
goshjosh2010 1 year ago
@goshjosh2010 Religious huckster-ism at it's worst and most base. That's the deal that a used-car salesman would make. If you think that then you are just hedging your bets and you don't have a shred of intellectual integrity.
rleeermy 1 year ago
It's pretty sad that many christians feel attacked when the mere existence of atheists is acknowledged. How weak their faith must be. I cannot even fathom how someone could be offended by the statement 'you can be good without god' (nonbelievers aren't evil)
I drive past churches everyday. I've seen signs and billboards stating that I'm destined for hell. Yet I don't throw a hissy fit over it. I recognize their right to say what they want (no matter how ridiculous it is)
Meli24RR 1 year ago
What fox is not getting is that in this way they just promote atheism.
Thanks fox ... and thanks for family guy also! :)
ChristianIce 1 year ago
One look at the guy on the right and I knew how this 'discussion' would progress.
Webofscience 1 year ago 3
what a tool... i wish the atheist was an asshole was like "I'm offended that you think I need the threat of hell to be good"
FockerTheLopper 1 year ago
Whats moral about lying to billions of people for thousands of years?
blindescape01 1 year ago 5
Wasn't there a billboard in the USA a while back that implied Atheists are psycopaths because we don't believe in God?
Where was Faux News on that issue?
phocjame 1 year ago 3
God is like Santa, you'de never swallow such a nonesence story if you weren't manipulated. 100% FOX NEWS quality!
doornappel 1 year ago 20
The one on the right's a fuckin' moron.
RobertoOneEye 1 year ago 30
@RobertoOneEye Hell, the Fox host is a fucking moron!
igwood71 9 months ago
Quite obvious whose side the host was on. Do people really watch Fox news? I'm Canadian so I don't think we get it up here but from what I've seen of it, it is the LEAST fair and balanced reporting in any democracy on earth.
JoshwithaJ 1 year ago 4
Wow. What total retards. How can anyone look at that christard and not feel shame for being of the same species? I mean.. Wow..
surlagachette2 1 year ago 5
i support free speech either way even though i think putting a christian or an atheist sign is stupid, it's npt goint to covert anyone, it's just going to piss people off.
thegatesoftroy 1 year ago
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"putting a christian or an atheist sign is stupid, it's npt goint to covert anyone, it's just going to piss people off."
Firstly, is this true? Does propaganda in that form not affect people? I think you are wrong. But even if it has no efect of that kind, what makes you think that would be the reason, or only reason for the signs?
Being a dick and making pointless arguments does not make you look smart or balanced. If you have nothing to contribute, don't.
surlagachette2 1 year ago
@surlagachette2 "Being a dick and making pointless arguments does not make you look smart or balanced. If you have nothing to contribute, don't."
If anyones being the dick its you. These religus/atheist signs are justa nice way of shoving your opinions down other people's throat. In the short run these sign will work but not in the long run. Learn to tolerate ideas other than your own
.. and don't ever waste my time with your stupid replys again
good day asshole
thegatesoftroy 1 year ago
This is the most benign Atheist message I have ever seen. I can't believe the prick preacher is putting up a stink. He should just be happy we haven't caught him diddling little boys yet.-------------Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;
brcjacks 1 year ago 2
How do you describe atheism if you don't mention God?
RebelVoDKa 1 year ago 4
So whats the message of the bus ad? They atheists could be good too? That's not bad. They don't say Christianity is wrong, or evil. If there is an ad that says "You can not be good without God" that is offensive. It's saying that atheists are evil. Someone is being attacked.
KayleLang 1 year ago
Pastor Tony Taylor doesn't know his US history very well. Everything from 2:05 thru 2:40 is all wrong. There is nothing remotely close to what he said in the Bill of Rights and I challenge anyone to show it to me. Religious people have denigrated non-believers for centuries. I guess they don't like it when they see there superstition coming apart.
randyscorner 1 year ago
This presenter is an idiot
jpmahone 1 year ago
Here's my message with god in it: Fuck your god.
iamsagacity 1 year ago
Morality is not unique to humanity or from religion, I'm sure many have seen the video of the Hippo and the Impala and of Whales in their prime helping their elders and sick, there's a ton of stuff we don't see.
ganados0 1 year ago
Is that Ricky Gervais? He really let himself go.
usucdik 1 year ago
"Don't you feel like...you have to realize that there are a lot of Christian's in that area that are highly offended by this!"
OH NOEZ! Offending them! I suppose Christian's are just much less tolerant than atheist's who don't seem to throw a fit everytime there's a Church banner proclaiming JESUS IS LORD.
Besides, "you can be good without god" offends you? You're so engraved with NEEDING god that it offends you that people can be good without one? That's actually really sad.
flylike1 1 year ago
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TheMidnightdrunk 1 year ago
athiest 's are disrecpectful.......so smart they have forgotten how to respect other people....eoban binder us an idiot.....
azzkhicker 1 year ago
@azzkhicker
Well when we're constantly defending ourselves how can we be respectful? How can we be respectful when we're not being respected? We're the least trusted group in the US.
Idiot.
PtH888999 1 year ago
@PtH888999... that's your problem moron...if you want to be respected put down your pride... good people listen to opinion's of others...
azzkhicker 1 year ago
@azzkhicker
You don't get it, we're not respected regardless of how much we listen. You seriously must have ausyndrome.
PtH888999 1 year ago
@PtH888999 no wonder your not respected cause your too smart not to listen to other people's opinion...
azzkhicker 1 year ago
The Pastor is a moron. He clearly has not read the Constitution or Bill of Rights. He also is in denial that there are other religions that have gods.
LetsPlayAutism 1 year ago
Fair and Balanced as defined by Faux News:
Questions for the atheist:
-'you do not believe in god yet you sued to put god in your ad, why?'
-'so you saw a loophole and thought you'd test it, but why put god in your ad? you don't believe in god'
-'why did you have to include god?'
Questions for the reverend:
-'do you feel like the atheist group is poking christians in the eye?'
-'what agenda?'
-'mm hmm'
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patg14 1 year ago
good by whos standards?
MrHappiness777 1 year ago
Free speech is good as long as you SAY WHAT WE WANT YOU TO SAY!
jacksawild 1 year ago
also the ad acciidentally said that man created god instead of saying that god created man lol
AtheistsRdumb 1 year ago
@AtheistsRdumb Actually the ad intentionally says "In the beginning man created God" because atheists don't believe in God, therefore the concept of God must have been created by a person. If the ad said "God created man" then that would be advertising the biblical viewpoint that people were created by God, which wouldn't make sense as part of an atheist bus campaign.
jaelyn164 1 year ago
om my gosh how why would you try to get people to go to hell??
AtheistsRdumb 1 year ago
GOD IS GOOD!
myeternaldestiny209 1 year ago
the host doesn't understand atheism.
OSHUNLIDE 1 year ago
@OSHUNLIDE fox news doesn't understand atheism.
thror13 1 year ago
so, its ok for religious groups to put up signs telling people the need god, or that god loves them, etc. but athiests put up a sing saying you dont need god to be good, and its offensive? sounds blatantly hypocritical to me. if they can put pro-god signs up, then atheists should be able to put anti-god signs up, plain and simple.
raztis1 1 year ago
i see how it is. christians are able to go door to door, and put up signs showing their beliefs, but when an atheist tries to, he gets attacked by idiotic assholes like these people.
PirateMonkeyFilmz 1 year ago
these fox news bastards and the pastor are painfully stupid.
PirateMonkeyFilmz 1 year ago 3
Is is just me or did Tony Taylor's response not make a lick of sense?
CAPRISUN441 1 year ago
So if the add said "You cannot be good without god" do you think they would bother to cover the same story?
ezelouie 1 year ago
whats wring with that?
its not insulting!
christians always put up god and jesus signs!
i think its completely ok!
the "man created god" thing is a little insulting,
but who is that one guy to say "thats not what it means"
he didnt make the signs!
YouKnowYouLoveCain 1 year ago
a fair debate lol the attack was on the atheist
louiscfc93 1 year ago
not sure if this was mentioned or not yet, but the Declaration of Independence says "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights" not "their Creator God" as mentioned by Mr. Tony Taylor in the discussion. A small yet important difference he neglects to distinguish.
irishluck65 1 year ago
Why does he get so upset about the use of the word "god"? If you're talking about tomato sauce you have to use the word tomato in your discussion! They had to use the word god, otherwise the add would be very very vague.
allegromarcato 1 year ago
why do they ask stupid questions ?
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rgaud8 1 year ago
somehow, if someone suggests that there is no god this is offensive to Christians? I find the idea of a God and the sick mythology around it, especially the Christian and Muslim versions to be offensive.
If this is the standard, then there should not be any Religious billboards or public churches either as then it would be offensive to Atheists.
Seeker64 1 year ago
If you're a Christian, therefore you're an IDIOT. That's how it works.
ItBrandonSilver 1 year ago
@ItBrandonSilver
just because im Christian doent mean im an idiot!
AtheistsRdumb 1 year ago
@AtheistsRdumb Nope, it just shows, that you have an lower IQ.
anton2maa 1 year ago
Religion is a mental illness.
CodyC6969 1 year ago 2
Why even have stuff like this?
You have the atheist on one side, giving information about what they are going.
Then the host turns to a priest or something similar and basically asks "Would you like to take this opportunity to pretend you are being oppressed?
Of fucking course they would.
flameillusion 1 year ago
a quote for the 'poor in spirit':
"And do you think that unto such as you;
A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew:
God gave the secret, and denied it me?--
Well, well, what matters it! Believe that, too."
AgeOfReason21 1 year ago
It is FOX.
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago
there is god everywhere in america like on our money and in our pledge but when atheists say that there is probably no god christians get so angry
MrPancaekz 1 year ago 4
In fact, when do christians get special treatment? This nation has increasingly been diverted from the fact that all people are created equal. By the way, I never remember reading anything about christianity or god in our foundation government. In fact, it was a little something called separation of church and state. Many people do not realize that they were separated to protect the government from religion, not the other way around.
shrinkman200 1 year ago
Furthermore, I noticed the anchor (or so seemingly "mediator") of the report suggested to the atheist that he exclude denoting an absense of god in the ad. Okay, if they excluded god, their message would not be relayed. They are trying to silence a common fallacy within the christian world that without god, you will have no ethics or morals.
shrinkman200 1 year ago
Though I am an atheist, I try to see the christian side of the argument, but every time I see that they fail to do just that. Atheism is a whopping minority in america and thus do not get to voice their opinion as freely as christians, who seem to get to flail their propaganda into every aspect of american living.
shrinkman200 1 year ago
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There are three models of Government competing for world domination:
(1) Communist / atheist: where government officials decide and dole out your temporal rights if any
(2) Sharia Law: where the Qu'ron governs
(3) Judeo-Christian model, where God grants our rights & liberties and THEREFORE they are unalienable, power resides in we the people, we are sovereign and the government is our servant.
Mr88playmaker 1 year ago
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i jus wanna know who wrote the bible then? did one man write the bible? did a group of dudes come together and say to themselves...lets write a fucking epic, right now! i wanna know...
syrensounds 1 year ago
The pastor guy can hardly string a sentence together. Pause at 2.37 and look from left to right - it's like a snap shot of devolution!
biggingerdude 1 year ago
I live in Birmingham, Alabama, arguably the most Christian city in the nation.
What I find most offensive about Christians is that they lie to each other and themselves about their beliefs. Most people down here claim to believe in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, yet daily, I see and interact in activities with theses people that are completely secular.
The truth is, Christians love to be atheist but are scared that the other Christians around them will not invite them to their party.
Cyricc 1 year ago
Sometimes when I day dream, I realize that people actually believe in these kind of tales that is religion, and that some of these individuals dedicate small or large parts of their lives to it. Isn't that... desolating? Though I'm happy there's still some "sane" people out there.
adsolecki 1 year ago 2
@adsolecki So you're saying all believers aren't sane, regardless of their individual beliefs?
alliteration1247 1 year ago
@alliteration1247 Didn't you notice the quotation marks gently wrapped around the word sane?
adsolecki 1 year ago
@alliteration1247 if adsolecki isn't saying that, and they may well be, then there are many, many people who will and should say that. ANY religious belief is at best mental deficiency and at worst wilfully ignorantly evil. This isn’t my opinion or a moral statement it is just, unequivocally, the way of things.
biggingerdude 1 year ago
its funny how people weren't alowed to put signs up like that but churches can put up signs like "gods wisdom triumps human intelligence" or "30 seconds after you die you will know we're right"!
kuioli123 1 year ago 33
This is another glorious example of how stupid the Fox News talking heads really are.
BoredInfidel 1 year ago
My stepfather is an Athiest and he donates firewood to charity, works as a special needs teachers, and he's an overall nice person. This prooves that you don't need religion to be good.
oldblubblub 1 year ago
You know, I don't think it's an inflammatory attack or anything but I don't understand the NEED for this sign. I think this is just contributing to the problem of "Oh, you don't believe what I believe let's bicker about it." People need to leave eachother's religions and lack-there-ofs alone. I mean if there can't be a church sign on the bus then why can there be an atheist sign on it?
alliteration1247 1 year ago
@alliteration1247 ... There CAN be a church sign on the bus. That's the point.
BoredInfidel 1 year ago
@BoredInfidel Oh haha... I totally missed the point. Crap. Thanks for not calling me a stupid bitch whore.
alliteration1247 1 year ago
@alliteration1247 would it make you feel better if I did? O_o
BoredInfidel 1 year ago