Horn Manufacture - Robert Engel - Vienna

[bluecollarboiler]

do the artisans also play? just wondering if that is a prerequisite to work there?

[bobmcgarity]

Those of you who were talking about the possibility of a double vienna horn, and I agree with brassbend - it's absolutely possible to do with pumpenvalve's exclusively. It would weigh considerable less than a standard double.

[lilbigmike009]

are vienna horns good i have a conn 8d and i now vienna horns arnt double but how do they play what are they like and are they good

[hornchannel]

The Hrns allow those who play with a Viennese style to do what they do best. Judge this for yourself by listening to lots of Vienna Philharmonic recordings or better by hearing that orchestra live! A horn is an acoustic resonator and amplifier of a vibrating air column, it's the player rather than the horn that is "good" :-) There are differences in bore and mouthpiece type between Viennese horns and modern double horns, these are more the instrument that Bruckner, Brahms and Mahler wrote for.

[valvetrom]

Most beautiful Doco, and bless you for no verbal explanations, and no syroupy music. absolutely perfect,

[zezima86]

I don't care if people hate the sound the instrument makes... the sheer beauty of it's look is enough to win me over.

[clarinette09]

so, has anyone ever made a double vienna horn?

[brassbend]

The odds are someone has. The comment on Vienna valves is that they are not suited for a double horn. Why? Got me.

[darkslavedog999]

Valves on a Vienna horn are not rotor valves they are a special type of piston valve known as the 'pumpenvalve'. On a double horn you must have rotor valves to allow the switch between the two horns, therefore the valves of a Vienna horn are very unsuited to making a double horn.

[brassbend]

Sorry, but a Vienna double could be built much the way a "normal" double horn is. It would require a stack of 2 valves on top of each other. Even the change valve could be worked out with a Vienna valve. The valve sections are so light it might weigh less than a normal double.

[tarantellaonline]

A lot of hard work has to make a beautiful instrument sound right, apart from the musician's practice.

[hornchannel]

I thought I had better leave the original soundtrack just in case someone asked how hard they were tapping :-) Manufacturers started pooling bell manufacture by storing copyrighted bell patterns with a specialised bell spinner who would make a batch to order. This kept the costs down. The guy in blue here was building his instrument completely from the raw materials as his "Meister Prüfung" certification to become a qualified instrument maker himself.

[brassbend]

GREAT! The tapping is very relaxing, this is the old "Master/Apprentice" relationship in full force. Wish they had put more about making the valves or bending the bells, I will be watching this often : )