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  • The Excalibur never fired it's main weapon. That sucks.

  • People at whom are music from this video fill in please in archive and the reference lay out vessels I all has rummaged I can not find ((

    In advance thanks

  • it was an OK battle, but Babylon ships, would never do that much damage to federation ships, They are faster, more durable. Plus the fact the federation have ANTI MATTER weapons

  • Of course the shields don't work or it wouldn't even be a battle! The Star Fleet ships would make quick work of the B5 ships including the Vorlons and Shadow ships. Fun to watch!

  • Akira class rules ;)

  • The name of the B5 human ship was the 'Backgammon' lmao!

  • fucking awesome lol i know what im watchin on utube for the rest of tonight XD

  • Those torpedoes might not look all that powerful but dont forget armour technology will advance as well as weapons, if they were firing upon an undefended planet you might see bigger results.

  • I should also add that by late TNG, the Federation had perfected Quantum torpedoes. These are vacuum or zero point energy devices, so their destructive yield is actually only dependent by the size of the subspace singularity at their core, which is technically unlimited.

  • "Hence there's no agreed upon yield in damage for Star Trek torpedoes"

    According to the Star Trek tech manual, photon torpedoes contain 1 kg of matter and 1 kg of antimatter. By using E=mc^2, the destructive yield of a single torpedo is approx. 65 megatons. To put that in perspective, the largest h bomb ever made was the Tsar bomb, which was 25 megatons and about the size of a bus. The blast radius of a 65 megaton device would probably incinerate any ship within about 20 km of ground zero.

  • @Diomedes01 Good calculations, but the Tsar was 50 megatons and had 30 mile blast radius. According to world records they say it was 52 megatons. No lower than 50.

    The shock wave circled the earth 3 times.

  • @QuantumNova Thanks for the clarifications.

    In any sense, the point I was trying to make is that Star Trek writers use artistic license when determining the destructive potential of the weapons in the show. They are often depicted as 'bullets' as opposed to explosives, just causing superficial damange when in fact, they are WMDs of enormous power.

  • shields!

  • Wouldn't these guys team up and try to survive the Shadows.

  • This is a battle between unshielded Star Trek ships and Babylon 5 ships. Stop being stereotypical neckbeards.

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  • Anyone else notice that B5 was rotating the wrong way?

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  • BULLSHIT! There has to be a first part of this. The Federation would never attack so cowardly without justification.

  • @DrLeroyGreen This is no Federation, but an empire, Earth was running out of space, so Emperor Pirk decided to conquer some more.

  • @DrLeroyGreen Yeah! I agree. What's with the reverse Pearl Harbor Theme?

  • @DrLeroyGreen This is the mirror universe federation clearly. The Terran Galactic Empire.

  • I was hoping Babylon 5 was gonna win but the whitestars didn't do anything.. they should have been well matched but B5 doesn't have shields

  • I love "Star Wrek the Pirkinning"

  • Official canon: Photon torpedoes are no higher than 64 megatons. Stop lying dude.

  • Those White Stars were incredibly under-powered in comparison to what they're like on the show.

  • @Valrin7236 So are the Star Trek ships.

  • Give me a Galaxy-X class and i'll conquer the universe!

  • NOT FAIR!

    A: B5 becomes unlimited reinforcements

    B: B5 has overpowered weapons

    C: photon torpedoes cant be destroyed in-flight

  • @Bazooka2cm They can. Photon Torpedos are normal torpedos too, therefore can be destroyed.

  • @Bazooka2cm All I can hear is "Wah-wah-wah, Star Trek didn't come out totally on top"

  • Hey, their video, their rules - but I cannot imagine mirror-universe Star Trek ships KNOWINGLY going into the B5-verse without shield tech - no shields = NO defenses for the fed ships, whereas B5 ships are built with monstrous (comparatively) armoring and structural redundancy

  • star trek of mirror universe?

  • What, no shields?

  • @Lukos0036 their excuse is that shields don't work in the B5 universe

  • Some one didn't really do any research for this.. did they. Where were the federation shields?

  • @cheskamouse This footage was used from a movie called "Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning" which is a parody of Star Trek and Babylon 5. It isn't an actual theater movie, this was a fan-made movie if you can believe it. It was made in Finland and not anywhere else, meaning there is no English version, but movie does come with subtitles. As for shields: their excuse is that shields don't work in the B5 universe

  • @starflame34 well if i remember correctly, there was an episode of TNG that said that lasers were compleatly inefective vs starfleet ships due to what the ships hull is made from, so the babylon ships wouldnt be able to damage the trek ships, as for the lack of shields... they didnt put them in this video because if the trek ships had them, they wouldnt have taken any damage at all, even the shuttle craft would be kicking major ass.

  • @briantonysmith And that would ruin a good fight, don't you think?

  • @starflame34 not saying its not an awesome vid but i was just pointing tht lil fact/production mistake out lol

  • @briantonysmith To be fair the Star Trek writers are infamous for pulling stuff out of their arse, in order to fit the story for the week. Hence there's no agreed upon yield in damage for Star Trek torpedoes. After all Star Trek ships have been shown to survive torpedo hits with their shields down. By your logic the torpedoes should have vapourised the entire ship.

  • @ScreamingTc well, if you take into account that 4 billionths of a gram of anti-matter is equivilant to the bomb dropped on hiroshima then u gotta admit that that technology is extreamly powerfull, atleast it would be 1 shot 1 kill.

  • @starflame34 also, torpedos from trek are antimatter weapons, they are like nukes but in a whole differant league,it would be 1 torpedo - 100 kills

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  • crap

  • @w9595 Yeah, would have been better with some Polish jokes in there.

  • did you make this yourself?

  • very good work! as to who would win i hate to say it but star trek would be the winner due to their shields and superior speed at sub-light

  • most of you prolly know this, but this is the original scene out from the movie: Star Wreck. Later on they had to change models on the movie due copyright issues.

  • Coolest Star Trek vs Yadda Yadda ever. Also probably the shields on the ships from the Federation probably were up; it's just that defenses from both sides were too incompatible or something. Great vid anyway.

  • CCP is that russian?

  • Anyone see at 5:20 if you read the dialog someone says "owned!" hahaha like that would be on a star trek ship.

  • very cool, ty for putting this together, i enjoyed it. 

  • Nice vid but Star Trek ships don't use jump gates.

  • Lasers against Shields, no.

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  • So.. does no one have any shields in this battle?

  • @JonLemerond1 I read sometime ago that the reason why the Star Trek ships do not have shields is that when they passed through the portal to the B5 universe their shields were stripped (it was also supposed to balance them against the B5 vessels. However, I do not believe this happened. Star Trek vessels are VERY fragile when they lose their shields. As evidenced by a single photon torpedo destroying them. Seeing that, a single particle cannon shot or burst should have caused major damage

  • @Zanair - yea, that excuse seems a little retroactively contrived. Good animation, but never forget you are dealing with geeks here, and we notice EVERYTHING.

  • @Zanair Photon Torpedos aren't pop guns, they have a maximum power of 31.4 gigatons.

  • Pretty cool. I can handle torpedos being shot down. But what happend to the shields? And the photon torpedos would do much more damage. Still, fun to watch.

  • @DrScroob Well, The Photon Torpedoes aren't allways that strong, for example in "Star Trek: The Wrath Of Khan" the Enterprise-A fires a torpedoe and it doesnt't do much damage to the Reliant's aft section at all and in "Star Trek: The Search For Spock" two torpedoes from the Enterprise-A don't even scratch the hull of a Klingon Bird Of Prey with it's SHIELDS DOWN. Of course that was the Enterprise-A in the 23rd century, but... who knows...

  • не хило

  • Overall THIS WAS AN EPIC WIN

    the only part i though was kinda dumd was when the captain of the Excalabur decides to move toward the the ships thats not fighting back or blowing up but just moving closer that would have been a sign to get out of its way. But i LOVED it MORE!!!!

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  • amillionmonkeys.blog.com aren't you curious?

  • I did'nt know that Star Trek tech could go into Hyper Space.

  • So good!

  • USS Prometheus

  • *2.40 for full image

  • 2.44 bottam fighter friendly fire much? Silly fighter can't even evade its friends laser bolts :P

  • Damn this is awesome!

  • ah, and lol@backgammon :-D

  • 1. nice sounds

    2. damn nice video quality

    3. more more more please :-)

  • how can there be sound... there's no air in space...

  • @mistermayonaise there is no perfect vakuum its true that there wouldnt be any noise heard for humans you could simply amplify the sound

  • star wreck for those who dont know

  • I love how that little intrepid comes to the aid of that sovereign at 3:19

  • What no quantum torpedos?

    What happened to Starfleets shields?

    and whats with the borg color tractor beam.?

    nice video thought would be epic to see done by paramount/cbs

  • @ 4:17 looks like Star Fleet bit off more then they can chew.

  • Where are the shields, ablative armor, and quantum torpedoes?

  • Death Star FTW!!!! =)

  • Much better animation than I was expecting!

  • 5:32 are those ships offline???

  • Since the Mimbari warships cannot be targeted by enemy ships, Vorlon ship are so ridiculously advanced and the Shadow ships can cut a freakin planet in half in like 20 seconds... I think B5 would win.

  • i totaly like the resault

  • "To all federation ships: Shields up! ...Where are our fraking shields?!" - "That's the fraking cylon virus admiral!" - "May the Force be with us..."

    But it's nice to watch. Good video.

  • why is the enterprise just flipping around like a fish out of water....

  • Is it me or does the federation always seem to lose these battles?

  • Don't forget that EarthForce, by some estimates, has hundreds, if not thousands, of warships. In Crusade, they reference the brand-new Warlock-class destroyers and claim that "only" 50 have been built so far. This indicates a much larger number to be built. By comparison, Starfleet only has maybe 100-200 decent warships. Numbers also make a difference, especially if you're fighting a war and not a single battle (i.e. tie up Starfleet resources, while EA ships move in to attack starbases).

  • @Domkavosh

    Umm The federation has thousands of ships. Ever watch DS9 ? Also throwing an entire universe against the Federation is retarded. Add the Klingons, Romulans, Dominion, Breen, Tholians, Borg, Kzinti, Andorians .....shall I go on? 

  • @memorialembers I'd believe that if losing 40 starships in one battle wasn't considered to be the end of Starfleet during the first Borg attack. B5 also has no shortage of races, some of which are more powerful than EA.

  • @memorialembers Andorians are part of the Federation :D

  • @Domkavosh I'm going to argue against this (as a B5 fan). JMS was always good at representing the logistics of Earth. The biggest battle gathering of Earth Ships outside of the Battle of the Line was shown to be at Mars, with 30+ Omega Destoyers in the Clark loyal fleet. Even the battle for B5 had a total of 9 capital ships in total (counting the three in the second wave). So to say that EA had thousands of Warships is over estimating...unless you count fighters.

  • Why don't federation ships ever get shields in these simulations? I love this video though , it's fantastic.. For you spec and tech nerds ..Star Trek has fighters and carriers! Just because they aren't in the series doesn't mean they don't have them and ohhh they use them in DSP constantly! And star wars fans...your tech manual says a star destroyer fires and 2334323432 gw energy burst because it makes you buy the manual to jerk off over. ST would annihilate SW.

  • @memorialembers Umm... Who needs shields if we simply cover ourselves in Shadow bio-armour? If you still want shields then use the shields on White Stars and stick them into various warships.

  • Here is a challenge to the creator of this video.. show us how the powerful federation fleet would do against the Sol Bianca.

  • no shuttles and defiants are not fighters. also yes startrek ships have the Phaser grid defenses system, remember WW2 ships had flak defenses system and fighters and bombers was still able the to destroy them.

    But again """if""" everyone's tech is equal, B5 would win.

  • Great vids, i thank whomever made them. to start off i'm a big B5 fan. but i would have to say startrek would win, because their technology is so far ahead it's not even funny. but """if""" everyone is equal in tech, B5 would win, because the military idea of "Carrier/fighters/bombers" will dominate, you see this in WW2 pacific. a CAG "carrier attack group" can engage an enemy while the carrier, in the case of B5 their Omega Class Destroyer, can hide behind a moon or in hyperspace. continue....

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  • Maybe before voyager b5 could have won, but after voyager not even Gods chance could b5 could win.Star war sucks.

  • video is awesome,but i got one complaint:earthforce capital ships got the rotating part for gravity,SF just takes em out and they are laughing,it should be moar ownage from SF,otherwise its really cool

    Imo in the whole Sci Fi earthfrorce has the weakest ships,even peacekeepers command carrier is better

  • I don't understand why this masterpiece has so little views. This is freakin' awesome.

  • download links dont work they are broken

  • why don't the star trek ships have their shields?

    

  • Beautifully realised, and I love the generations of Federation ships shown.

  • HA HA Earth vs Earth :D :D :D

  • For a fanvid, this is awesome. Hell this is awesome in general. But why do none of the Starfleet ships have their shields raised?

  • @AIDSplz

    In the Star Wreck movie the P-Fleet crews (the pendant to the Federation) discover to their horror that their shield technology is not working in the mirror universe they just entered.

  • and if you realize that this is fan film, this is pro sci fi battle. amazing work

  • i love omega destroyers sooo much. it is pure human constuction, machine with capital M

    btw b5 music is stunning and fitts here perfectly

  • This is really dumb :(

  • What program was used to make this?

    This looks like something I'd like to do.

  • Now just wait for the Empire to drop our of hyperspace to destroy whats left

    GLORY TO THE EMPIRE

  • it is awesome but they got kinda lazy on the earth fource star furys and they made the fighting diffrence way off, like they show more earth fource ships get maimed and less fed ships

  • Oh no... Miranda Class starships going into battle - we'll never see them again.

    I met a girl called Miranda once; I never saw her again either.

  • @NortyTurkeyPants wahhahaahahahha ur hillarious :D

  • @NortyTurkeyPants

    do star trek fans ever meet girls?

    cuz i never did

  • @NortyTurkeyPants even Sisko could not save his Miranda class.

  • @NortyTurkeyPants That means you must SUCK at something.

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  • was this on a real show or did some one make it for fun?

  • The Minbari ships should be a match for a fed Starship. The Earthforce ships are a bit being Starfleet's.

  • In The Pirkinning is a class micky take

  • what an amazing battle its great its fantastic!! but waht is the CPP on the ships why not ncc

  • enterprise a would win!!!!

  • I want to see Sr-2 Normandy vs. Enterprise A

  • @DBdraz12 That's not even fair, especially if Joker is at the helm. The Normandy could dance circles around the Enterprise before blowing a hole in its side with the Thanix Cannon.

  • @ItsSomeDeadGuy I meant to clarify that i was talking about the Sr-2 pre-upgrades, as it is in the beginning of the game

  • @DBdraz12 That is an idea and a half!

  • Isn't the constitution, miranda, and the excelsior classes armed with type VII phasers not type X or type XII phasers?

  • The Federation should win. they are fast, heavily armed, have (normally) strong shields and of course they have weapons for nearly every angle. and i dont thinks its so easy to hit torpedos they are smart and fast.

  • funny shipnames ^^ mannerheim loool 

  • Starfleet is damn lucky the Minbari didn't show up. lol

  • @DBdraz12 Completely true, but that is besides the point. This battle is between Earth Force, and the Federation. If you throw in races from both universe, the Trek Universe still wins. The Minbari against the, lets use the Jem'Hadar. I consider them both on a relatively even level. Sure you can throw in the first ones, but then Trek fans can throw in the Q. Snap of fingers and the B5 universe is gone, or Species 8472. Keep it simple i say. Earth Force vs. Star Fleet.

  • @porpus99 my thinking was that the minbari ships would be the only true match for the sheer capabilities of the Enterprise-E ships, theEarth Force Victory-class is just to big and slow and only has one main gun, like a super mobile Deathstar. Had the minbari cruisers been in the fight I think the last things left intact would've been the Babylon station, and of course the Star Fleet space dock.

  • pretty darn good to watch

  • star wreck in the pirkinning

  • very good job :) looks like a damn nice spacefight

  • Victory class ship made with minbari/vorlon/earth tech versus 24th century earthship and earthship wins XD,

    i like trek and B5 but the whitestars are probably the most manoeuvrable ships in that fight and they get hit from long range with torpedoes XD

    otherwise not bad :)

  • @shathriel Well, to be fair, the Federation is composed of over 50 member worlds, so no doubt each member somehow played a part in starship evolution that culminated in the Sovereign class.

  • Boring video based on somebody else's hard work.

  • What a fantastic video! Truly broner inducing!

    The only 'negative' are the predictable, shopworn comments left here by whining Trekkies.

    Just fuck the shut up already, you ungrateful, unappreciative, inbred maggots.

  • Nice video enjoyed it a lot :) The whole shield thing I kind of agree with. The fed ships are extremely weak without, and I think the B5 ships have a massive advantage in the more advanced classes used later in the series. It should of really been a walkover without fed shields, with fed shields the opposite.

  • awesome .. great job .. i love special effects ... i wish i knew how to create them ... thanks for posting

  • awesome .. great job

  • I never saw the movie, so this may seem like a stupid question, but: Did B5 have the Interstellar Alliance by now or is it a different history? Cause I mean I only saw Earth ships defending B5 (except for the white star ships). Where was everyone else?

  • ship names cracked me up..... 'Backgammon' lol

  • Awesome and very well thought out! If its the B5 universe then B5 physics apply, no shields, no transporter no warp. Please do Shadows next!!!

  • Out of curiosity did you just discount shields all together or couldn't you render them?

  • Babylon 5 would win, Star Trek would win

    You know what, who really cares who the fuck would win? It's a FICTIONAL universe, don't lose sleep over it guys. Just watch the video and be entertained without having to debate it like it actually matters.

  • Babylon 5 yould win easily against star trek.

    The only challange for powers like the Minbari, Shadows and Vorlons would have been the Borg and Species 8472

  • @Denorius01 And Q is helpless, right? (sarcastic)

  • @nmahovic

    Against the First ones like Lorien? YES!

    The Old Q Argument of all trekkies - gets a little boring - doesnt it?

    Were talking about the "normal" races NOT godlike creatures.

    Besides Q is a pussy - remember that voyager episode when he was with his son? His son "played" with the Borg and Q was in quite a panic he said: Son NEVER provoke the Borg

  • @Denorius01 What about sphere builders?

  • @nmahovic

    Oh please. U consider Enterprise canon? That series was a disgrace to all Star trek fans. That whole temporal, time travel war was bullshit.

    Besides they were defeated by Archer and his 22nd century technology.

    And to Q – I doubt Q would do ANYTHING when the Star trek Universe would be invaded by the Shadows or Thirdspace aliens. He didn’t lift a finger when almost the whole Alpha Quadrant was assimilated by the Borg or nearly conquered by the Dominion.

  • Thats pretty awesome.. What was the render time?

  • the rapidshare link to part 1 is dead

    and part 2 can't be see in ukraine

    copyright issues :-(

  • Ok, I get it....But why are all the ships marked in Russian?

  • i wanna c more space battles like this but with more ships and shows and much more accurate 2 each show used cuz this is pretty good.

  • @starflame34 - the music is all from various episodes of B5. None that i can tell are from star trek.

  • Quality vid, shame you missed the shields for fed ships and made the weapons look slow or inaccurate or underpowered for feds but made b5 look stronger.

  • @SkeeterUK

    He didn't becouse he didn't actually make this movie.

    This is from the finnish Star Trek parody Star Wreck, In the Pirkinning.

  • @Finlandcitizen Mainly because the B5 soundtrack is phenomenal, much more epic and grandiose then the Trek one.

  • SWEET ! GREAT JOB.

  • This video is probably one of the best of its kind, in my own opinion, but if anyone has something better I'd love to see.

  • Good effects! But, why would Terran forces Fight each other? Oh, I know B-5 history. But, Star Fleet ships have warp drive, they don't use the gate!!!And the weapons on "Earth Fleet" vessels wouldn't blister the monomoleculer hull on a Star Fleet vessel. It would really be NO CONTEST!! =Stefan=

  • @chengloki

    These clips are from movie Star Wreck: In the Pirking. Watch this movie and you'll understand.

    1. These ships are made by russians with basically todays technology..there's even remark for russian building quality.

    2. There was this wormhole that did lead from Trek-dimension to B5-dimension. Too bad that on B5 end was hyperspace. That's why they used gate.

    3. Trek-Earth were running out of resources so emperor pirk were trying to conquer B5-Earth.

  • @kimnice actually trek-earth wasnt running out of resources. emperor pirk was trying to conquer B5-earth so he could put all poor ppl there

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  • cant watch the secong, damn copyright!

  • Does ANYONE know ANY music used in this video!?

  • This is excellent, altho the federation ships got pwned. Um i just wanna no what software u use?

  • @VocalIntuition This is from Star Wreck: In the Pirkenning. Star Wreck is a Finnish parody of Star Trek. Check it out, it's hilarious.