Marriage means commitment, this obviously mean something to her that she is willing to put alot of effort into her seriousness in the relationship. She might have to accept that he doesn't love her enough to marry her. I've heard all the excuse, seen babys born & the guy will say a rings not important and turn around and marry someone else! Marriage is not a THING
my problem is the opposite im male gave the ring but when i talk about hey lets get it sized or talk about wedding plans she tells me to relax because it stresses her out
She should leave the guy. First moving in with him was the wrong move. It's really simple. if the man is getting the use of the fitness center without paying for the membership...then what is the incentive for him to marry the woman. There is NO incentive. This woman should leave and find another man that is willing to marry her on her terms. But, NEXT time she shouldn't have SEX Before Marriage - That simple:-)! My answer is found better on my channel.
She made a mistake by moving in with him. The man is under no obligation to marry her. She should stop nagging him. He doesn't believe in marriage. She should live with the situation or she should be open to meeting a man who does share her values.
Both partners are divorced and decide to date divorced people. There is something very telling in that. She says she wants a commitment, but come on now. Did you really believe that was going to happen? Sounds like they both should take a time out and focus on their kids who now have an unbalanced parental unit. Work on your social life after your kids are out the house.
In response 2 incessantmace: When he says that "no smart man will get married" cuz of something that wants 2 leech on 2 him? Marriage is dwindling as it is...more & more women r living on their own & NOT 'LEECHING' OFF A MAN!! (I speak for myself cuz some dont want to be put in the same crowd as me) but I know I am fully capable of living an independant life WITHOUT A MAN! Its mentality like that that has women in this society saying marriage isnt 4 them, & I am proud 2 say marriage isnt 4 me.
But as for her ring, if she wants to get married to him then I say go for that ring! I just think that she did it kinda backwards, she should have gotten the ring or whatever she is looking for BEFORE buying that house that is closer to him. But by all means, go for that ring! I say that she deserves it.
I sort of get what she means, if she's crazy about this guy she'd want to make the bonds stronger but I think it would feel less special to her if she had to repeatedly ask for it... although I can understand her desire to tie the knot!
dont forget that diamond probably has seen more blood in Africa before it was shipped off overseas than the average medic in 5 years. you might think its a symbol of love but to the people that "retrieve" (cant think of the word) they associate it with severing of limbs and death. so next time maybe lay off the diamond and find some other gem not found in northern africa. buying diamonds just supports the bloodshed.
Chris Rock pretty much sums it up on one of his clips about relationships. It appears on YouTube and well worth the search. Also how great that SHE moves - disrupting her children's lives just to be nearer to her man. Wow - someone's on the low self esteem express. Anyway good luck to them - but I don't see anything good coming out of this, then again it's none my effin' bidness.
the problem started when she said "both of us are divorced with kids"....whatever happened "til death do we part"? Oh ya, it was destroyed by our modern culture.
divorcees wondering why the latest won't commit, are you fucking kidding me?
BITCH I put the ring on my junk and be like "BITCH, YOUR TEETH, MY RING, 15 MINUTES, GO TIME." She refuse, I take that ring off my PECKER, put it in my FIST, and teach that BITCH a lesson in disrespecting my JUNK.
Agree with Dan and Jenn on this one. Just because she moved closer to him is not an obligation for them to get engaged or married. Read "Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus".
you know women folk need to stop playing games...lets face it 99 percents of these c(_)nts out here are just concern about some poor sap they can hook to pay bills...
look its time to stop f(_)cking around people...lets be honest amongst each other and grow the f(_)ck up....
lets reject the current "matrix" and return to what god wanted and ment for human male female experience....
no dude no baggage...see i have some "a-b-c-" type information for you...i have a ghetto phd and my knowledge comes from the hood and the street...20 years cuz...
see many of my brothers have been "blinded sided" by these ho's and before they knew what hit them, they are lucky to be getting 200 dollars a month after getting court raped for support etc despite the ho making 80k a year...where is the justice in that...
eazy-e had it right find em f(_)ck em and leave em !
I'm not very verbal about those things I'm more of the pointing out kind of person. something like "aww I wish my wedding could be that great maybe someday" then cuddle. the idea is to get him thinking about it.
without making him feel forced.
or make him catch you looking at wedding dresses and when he ask you what you're doing you say something like. Don't think nothing of this but would it freek you out if I tried this one on. if nothing else it will get him talking about how good U looked
Yeah, but you don't think trying on a wedding dress is a too forward? And when do you draw the line between just being honest and caring to playing mind games.
Theres nothing wrong with giving someone a idea. And I have found that saying something with out saying it works allot better then poring it out. what would you rather have a situation where you tell someone I want to get married and freek them out, and make it so they don't know what to say, or would you rather give him a idea and wait for him to bring a conversation up. I would go for #2 because no man is dumb enough not to know what you want when you do that kind of stuff. so mind games?
I'm just saying that if you beat around the bush you'll be beating it until you die. When I say you, I don't actually mean you. It's just a general thing.
There isn't anything wrong with planting an egg in someone's mind, but I'm a very direct person.
I'm impatient when it comes to hints because I don't get them myself. I don't like to misunderstand or be misunderstood. My experience tells me that hinting leads directly to that.
I'm sorry if I said something wrong to offend you.. We are all different people that go about doing things in different ways theres nothing wrong with that. the one thing I think that everyone has in common though is we all wanna be loved... And marriage is one of the biggest signs of love and commitment. but there is all to much enfranchises on getting a stupid little ring. A ring i sent going to stop someone from hurting and leaving you. sometimes I don't get the point of it!
Pssh, no smart man will get married. Just look at what wants to leech on to him. Basically we spend alot of time and energy investing in chicks meanwhile you depreciate over time. Marriage is just another way people integrate with society- the highly unstable system. Stress builds marriages fail. Sticking around with a person while not being a whore is the best way to get to spend the rest of your life with someone. Abstain from mind games they dont work on men who rely heavily on logic.
To me, it isn't. I'm fine without an object. As long as I can feel it from the other person, I'm cool.
However, with advertising being the way it is (especially during Valentine's, Mother's, Father's Day and Christmas) it is hard to get over stuff like that.
My dad went through the same thing. He was with a lady for a little over three years. In the beginning he told her he never wants to get married: he doesn't like them, that's just his thing.
But after three years she wanted something to show for her time and started questioning him and begging him to get married. She wasn't counting points (not that I know of) but he didn't like it. So one day he got tired and dumped her. After three years.
It could also just be that maybe he DOES want to get married, maybe he would want to propose, but HE doesn't want to be the one coming on too fast. How can you be sure he doesn't want to get married? People are always reluctant with ANY expression of feelings, and, THIS IS THE BIG ONE.
You never know, what if HE'S feeling the same but HE thinks maybe you're just moving forward one step when he wants two or three? The guy's also divorced, he also has kids! My idea ain't impossible...
I agree with what you guys said but it's not just the ring... it's a marriage and memory and the feelings of the marriage when in the marriage... so yea, but I agree it shouldnt be I did this now it's your turn
He isn't engaged to her by now, it is because he doesn't WANT to be engaged to her. She hasn't landed this man. Far from it. He still wants his options open, isn't committed to her and doesn't want to be pressured in to lying about it. If he hasn't become engaged to her after 2 and a half years, it is because he isn't planning to marry her. She should wake up, smell the coffee and start looking before she finds that she wasted 10 years on a guy who likes things just fine the way they are.
uhm not neciserily, he may not have the money to do it, he may be waiting for a certain moment or quite possibly, is planning something big and needs to plan things out first
That falls in the wedding category because a ring is not required to be legally married.
Getting married is easy. It's all of the "required" celebration that makes it expensive.
Making a commitment to another person doesn't cost anything at all. That's why I don't feel that money (or a wedding) has anything to do with true commitment.
@pogue36 cereal box ring. That's totally what I'm doing. I don't want to be with a stuck up bitch & her diamonds. ahah. Well at least 4 the engagement ring.
Marriage means commitment, this obviously mean something to her that she is willing to put alot of effort into her seriousness in the relationship. She might have to accept that he doesn't love her enough to marry her. I've heard all the excuse, seen babys born & the guy will say a rings not important and turn around and marry someone else! Marriage is not a THING
robicarm 10 months ago
my problem is the opposite im male gave the ring but when i talk about hey lets get it sized or talk about wedding plans she tells me to relax because it stresses her out
omg
67kneil 11 months ago
She should leave the guy. First moving in with him was the wrong move. It's really simple. if the man is getting the use of the fitness center without paying for the membership...then what is the incentive for him to marry the woman. There is NO incentive. This woman should leave and find another man that is willing to marry her on her terms. But, NEXT time she shouldn't have SEX Before Marriage - That simple:-)! My answer is found better on my channel.
findnkeeplove 1 year ago
@findnkeeplove
agreed!
robicarm 10 months ago
what is that blue stuff they are drinking does anyone know? I wanna try it
maynya 1 year ago
She made a mistake by moving in with him. The man is under no obligation to marry her. She should stop nagging him. He doesn't believe in marriage. She should live with the situation or she should be open to meeting a man who does share her values.
mindyourbizok 2 years ago
wing =) wing !
TommyD758 2 years ago
Both partners are divorced and decide to date divorced people. There is something very telling in that. She says she wants a commitment, but come on now. Did you really believe that was going to happen? Sounds like they both should take a time out and focus on their kids who now have an unbalanced parental unit. Work on your social life after your kids are out the house.
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catfight0 2 years ago
I wish i could sit around drinking beer (or blue stuff?) and talking about sex all day, i think i got in the wrong business.....lol
jsg103 3 years ago
In response 2 incessantmace: When he says that "no smart man will get married" cuz of something that wants 2 leech on 2 him? Marriage is dwindling as it is...more & more women r living on their own & NOT 'LEECHING' OFF A MAN!! (I speak for myself cuz some dont want to be put in the same crowd as me) but I know I am fully capable of living an independant life WITHOUT A MAN! Its mentality like that that has women in this society saying marriage isnt 4 them, & I am proud 2 say marriage isnt 4 me.
herewatchingutube 3 years ago
But as for her ring, if she wants to get married to him then I say go for that ring! I just think that she did it kinda backwards, she should have gotten the ring or whatever she is looking for BEFORE buying that house that is closer to him. But by all means, go for that ring! I say that she deserves it.
herewatchingutube 3 years ago
until you want to push out a few pups
ArrogantCancerian 2 years ago
I sort of get what she means, if she's crazy about this guy she'd want to make the bonds stronger but I think it would feel less special to her if she had to repeatedly ask for it... although I can understand her desire to tie the knot!
ImNotWeird 3 years ago
care to share about your *want card* that sounds like a very interesting idea and i would like to know how you guys play it
i imagine you guys give yourselves 1 of this every x months maybe ?
tubehax 3 years ago
dont forget that diamond probably has seen more blood in Africa before it was shipped off overseas than the average medic in 5 years. you might think its a symbol of love but to the people that "retrieve" (cant think of the word) they associate it with severing of limbs and death. so next time maybe lay off the diamond and find some other gem not found in northern africa. buying diamonds just supports the bloodshed.
ninjasownpirates 3 years ago
Dan, you're WHIPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scorpion4hours 3 years ago
Chris Rock pretty much sums it up on one of his clips about relationships. It appears on YouTube and well worth the search. Also how great that SHE moves - disrupting her children's lives just to be nearer to her man. Wow - someone's on the low self esteem express. Anyway good luck to them - but I don't see anything good coming out of this, then again it's none my effin' bidness.
gscotm55 3 years ago
i like this guys, he actually thinks!
torisgirl 3 years ago
the problem started when she said "both of us are divorced with kids"....whatever happened "til death do we part"? Oh ya, it was destroyed by our modern culture.
divorcees wondering why the latest won't commit, are you fucking kidding me?
discountninjah 3 years ago 2
to xXhelmsdeepXx...your "pecker" must be pretty small to put a ring on it...and maybe you are the one that needs to learn respect.
terri17123 3 years ago
BITCH I put the ring on my junk and be like "BITCH, YOUR TEETH, MY RING, 15 MINUTES, GO TIME." She refuse, I take that ring off my PECKER, put it in my FIST, and teach that BITCH a lesson in disrespecting my JUNK.
xXhelmsdeepXx 3 years ago
Women: By moving in with your man and having sex with him, you've lost your mystique. There's no reason for him to marry you.
XKG80 3 years ago 2
Amen.
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
XKG80, you said it well.
aspiringandinspiring 2 years ago
u pple are doing a good job. But considering all u r videos. I think swinging should not be encouraged. It should be discouraged.
deron12 3 years ago
he should give her the ring since to her it mean something more special than a material possession, most guys don't get that
kpfitzpatrick05 3 years ago
don´t tell me i shouldn´t keep score and do the things without expecting something in return. im a sociopath.
alberthadonlyone 3 years ago
Agree with Dan and Jenn on this one. Just because she moved closer to him is not an obligation for them to get engaged or married. Read "Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus".
til2uncostly 3 years ago
i like you dan
ludovicaverse 3 years ago
you know women folk need to stop playing games...lets face it 99 percents of these c(_)nts out here are just concern about some poor sap they can hook to pay bills...
look its time to stop f(_)cking around people...lets be honest amongst each other and grow the f(_)ck up....
lets reject the current "matrix" and return to what god wanted and ment for human male female experience....
wake the f(_)ck up !
kidstl 3 years ago
someone has some baggage... ;-)
DanAndJenn 3 years ago 5
no dude no baggage...see i have some "a-b-c-" type information for you...i have a ghetto phd and my knowledge comes from the hood and the street...20 years cuz...
see many of my brothers have been "blinded sided" by these ho's and before they knew what hit them, they are lucky to be getting 200 dollars a month after getting court raped for support etc despite the ho making 80k a year...where is the justice in that...
eazy-e had it right find em f(_)ck em and leave em !
kidstl 3 years ago
Jen you are so beautiful lol no offense Dan
armzone101 3 years ago
Are u guys married??..I see dans not wearing a ring!..Just asking..
and i agree! 100% with ur guys answers!...
greengirl143 3 years ago
I'm not very verbal about those things I'm more of the pointing out kind of person. something like "aww I wish my wedding could be that great maybe someday" then cuddle. the idea is to get him thinking about it.
without making him feel forced.
or make him catch you looking at wedding dresses and when he ask you what you're doing you say something like. Don't think nothing of this but would it freek you out if I tried this one on. if nothing else it will get him talking about how good U looked
juliaannagizas 3 years ago
Yeah, but you don't think trying on a wedding dress is a too forward? And when do you draw the line between just being honest and caring to playing mind games.
lavinder11 3 years ago
Theres nothing wrong with giving someone a idea. And I have found that saying something with out saying it works allot better then poring it out. what would you rather have a situation where you tell someone I want to get married and freek them out, and make it so they don't know what to say, or would you rather give him a idea and wait for him to bring a conversation up. I would go for #2 because no man is dumb enough not to know what you want when you do that kind of stuff. so mind games?
juliaannagizas 3 years ago
I'm just saying that if you beat around the bush you'll be beating it until you die. When I say you, I don't actually mean you. It's just a general thing.
There isn't anything wrong with planting an egg in someone's mind, but I'm a very direct person.
I'm impatient when it comes to hints because I don't get them myself. I don't like to misunderstand or be misunderstood. My experience tells me that hinting leads directly to that.
That's where I'm coming from.
lavinder11 3 years ago
I'm sorry if I said something wrong to offend you.. We are all different people that go about doing things in different ways theres nothing wrong with that. the one thing I think that everyone has in common though is we all wanna be loved... And marriage is one of the biggest signs of love and commitment. but there is all to much enfranchises on getting a stupid little ring. A ring i sent going to stop someone from hurting and leaving you. sometimes I don't get the point of it!
juliaannagizas 3 years ago
Pishpah. No you didn't offend me. It was a nice youtube conversation (for once). Sometimes I don't get the point of it either.
lavinder11 3 years ago
Pssh, no smart man will get married. Just look at what wants to leech on to him. Basically we spend alot of time and energy investing in chicks meanwhile you depreciate over time. Marriage is just another way people integrate with society- the highly unstable system. Stress builds marriages fail. Sticking around with a person while not being a whore is the best way to get to spend the rest of your life with someone. Abstain from mind games they dont work on men who rely heavily on logic.
incessantmace 3 years ago
To me, it isn't. I'm fine without an object. As long as I can feel it from the other person, I'm cool.
However, with advertising being the way it is (especially during Valentine's, Mother's, Father's Day and Christmas) it is hard to get over stuff like that.
lavinder11 3 years ago
Dan and I affectionately refer to those as "Hallmark" holidays. :-)
Who has the most to gain from all this "showing of love" on certain days of the year? Just follow the money.
I would rather get a surprise gift on a non-holiday. LOL
DanAndJenn 3 years ago
Yes!
My dad went through the same thing. He was with a lady for a little over three years. In the beginning he told her he never wants to get married: he doesn't like them, that's just his thing.
But after three years she wanted something to show for her time and started questioning him and begging him to get married. She wasn't counting points (not that I know of) but he didn't like it. So one day he got tired and dumped her. After three years.
Is a ring and a piece of paper that important?
lavinder11 3 years ago
What kind of things do u put on your want card :S.
majali1000 3 years ago
it could be anything from wanting to go see a certain movie, to a new pair of shoes, to going out on the weekend... (even sex wishes)
DanAndJenn 3 years ago
It could also just be that maybe he DOES want to get married, maybe he would want to propose, but HE doesn't want to be the one coming on too fast. How can you be sure he doesn't want to get married? People are always reluctant with ANY expression of feelings, and, THIS IS THE BIG ONE.
You never know, what if HE'S feeling the same but HE thinks maybe you're just moving forward one step when he wants two or three? The guy's also divorced, he also has kids! My idea ain't impossible...
resilientkid 3 years ago
I agree with what you guys said but it's not just the ring... it's a marriage and memory and the feelings of the marriage when in the marriage... so yea, but I agree it shouldnt be I did this now it's your turn
MoneyDevil94 3 years ago 3
He isn't engaged to her by now, it is because he doesn't WANT to be engaged to her. She hasn't landed this man. Far from it. He still wants his options open, isn't committed to her and doesn't want to be pressured in to lying about it. If he hasn't become engaged to her after 2 and a half years, it is because he isn't planning to marry her. She should wake up, smell the coffee and start looking before she finds that she wasted 10 years on a guy who likes things just fine the way they are.
SSanf 3 years ago 3
uhm not neciserily, he may not have the money to do it, he may be waiting for a certain moment or quite possibly, is planning something big and needs to plan things out first
unknownsixsixsix 3 years ago
what if he dosent have the money?
pogue36 3 years ago 5
Getting married is very inexpensive. It's the wedding that cost a fortune! :-)
DanAndJenn 3 years ago
no for the ring
pogue36 3 years ago
That falls in the wedding category because a ring is not required to be legally married.
Getting married is easy. It's all of the "required" celebration that makes it expensive.
Making a commitment to another person doesn't cost anything at all. That's why I don't feel that money (or a wedding) has anything to do with true commitment.
DanAndJenn 3 years ago
@pogue36 cereal box ring. That's totally what I'm doing. I don't want to be with a stuck up bitch & her diamonds. ahah. Well at least 4 the engagement ring.
lifeisgood070 11 months ago
first
pogue36 3 years ago
LOL :-)
DanAndJenn 3 years ago