Jesus and the Nativity are insulting? To who? Obviously somebody who is teetering on the edge of a nervous breakdown due to their over sensativity OR one of this guys friends from the FFRF.
Those twats don't do atheism any favors by trying to pull down the least offensive symbol in all of christianity. They make the rest of us atheists look like bigoted idiots! Fucking trolls
The Lord made it very clear; John 3:19! However if a Muslim scene was displayed they wouldn't dare to complain, because there would be so many bombs on the streets that you could topple over them! We asked for it; we voted for immoral representatives that are nothing but left wing constipated, mental disordered, lunatic jackasses and here is the result and its far too late to do anything about it, and the church will suffer deeply for it. We are weighed in the balance and are found wanting!
@KOICrowz : My friend, unless you are ready to claim perfection, you are a sinful person just like the rest of us. That's not an insult, that's reality.
@KOICrowz There's nothing in the US Constitution that states a town can't be Christian.
Again: ALL towns in Texas are Christian towns.
The messages are most definitely anti-Christian, and are therefore hate speech.
There is no revealed scripture on the face of the planet that states your incorrect personal belief that God could have somehow "created" your hell. Jesus never once mentioned the word "hell" in his entire preaching campaign.
@mrtadreamer So.. Because I say things like slavery, Hell, killing a man for having sex with another man, and stoning a kid to death are either immoral or illegal.. I deserve to be treated badly?
Well, that's a great moral compass you have. Be sure to send my regards to the other baby-eating Nazi's I'm sure you hang out with.
The Bible having absolute morality is a strike against it, seeing as morality is not absolute.
I guarantee that if blindly surveyed on questions of slavery, genocide, murder, and more, an overwhelming majority of civilized people, hell, even Christians, would agree with my "cobbled together" moral values over God's.
@mrtadreamer So now I'm a satanist? Which kind? The kind the worships Satan, or the humanistic and carnal ones?
I'll spoil the answer for you; I'm neither. I'm a non-religious atheist. If I had to choose between God or Satan though, I would easily choose Satan. For all of the hype about his evilness, Satan sure doesn't do much. Hell, his biggest sin was disobeying an admittedly jealous tyrant.
"Anti-Christian" messages are not protected under free speech because they are considered hate speech. There is no scripture on the planet that states that Jesus "created a hell," or "a place of torture."
Barker is a hateful, ignorant, uneducated, deluded moron, and he deserves to be kicked off every platform on which he attempts to crap out his demonic lies.
@1GodOnlyOne - Please don't fall into the "nicer than God" syndrome. (Please see Pastor Bob Enyart's writings on the subject.) We need not apologize for hell or step softly around it.
@1GodOnlyOne The religious beliefs of a town's inhabitants are irrelevant when it comes to the first amendment of the Constitution. Displays of a religious nature do not belong on government property because it gives the impression that the government endorses the religion depicted by the display. It's illegal! Laws may not be ignored by any group just because certain citizens, to the exclusion of others, want it that way.
See Supreme Court rulings: Van Orden v. Perry & Pleasant Grove City v. Summum.
Then consider that 74% of Americans Support Religious Displays on Public Property: rasmussenreports. com/public_content/lifestyle/holidays/december_2008/74_support_religious_displays_on_public_property.
All Atheists know how to do is sue, costing tax payers & majority of people who think ur hateful bigots millions of dollars. Just mind your own business and quit trying to rewrite US history.
Atheists are the minority in this country, so why are we letting the minority rule and say what the majority can display. If these ridiculous hate mongering atheist with their anti-God agenda think the nativity is offensive, then don't look at it, but lets not prevent the majority from enjoying this display. Christmas is a recognized American Holiday. If you atheists don't like it, then move to Norway or Albania
@BT3701 1. The founders of this country specifically set it up to not let the majority tyrannize the minority.
2. I'm sick of hearing this "if it's so offensive" bullshit. The argument is about the first amendment, and how it's unconstitutional to give preference to any one religion. If you don't like living in a secular country, try moving to one of the actual Christian countries in Africa.
@KOICrowz The First Amendment guarantees us FREEDOM OF RELIGION - not Freedom from Religion as those in the minority would prefer. Tired of living in a country where you're on the minority side? Tired of living in a country where approximately 80% - 85% believe in God? Then maybe you should consider moving to an atheist country like Norway.
Soooo, Freedom From Religion Foundation wants to celebrate Winter Solstice instead of Christmas? Isn't that just another older religious celebration? Even the world "celebration" has it's roots in religion for goodness sake.
I may be an atheist, but I don't think the nativity scene is "offensive." Religious symbols/scenes do belong on private property and churches. That's how I feel. For any government building to have a religious symbol/scene would be endorsing the religion. And lastly, shame on fox for kicking him off because he doesn't agree with him. There is such thing as listening to someone and not agreeing with them.
The Holy Bible tells us that we all must make a choice to Believe in God or not. It's none of my buisness what anyone chooses but I CAN PRAY FOR YOUR SOUL because i want all to go to HEAVEN. The choice is yours & no one else. Im not gonna push CHRISTANITY ON ANYBODY SO DONT PUSH ATHEISM ON ME!!!!! Believe what you want it's your choice!! I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT OF JESUS CHRIST!!!!!
I think Anti Theist take the separation of church and state to the extreme.First of separation of church and state is apart of religious freedom. You cant have religious freedom if one religion is dictating what the others can believe.I Frankly putting up signs that say "God is a Myth".Just seems childish.i think that the likelihood of an Atheist Utopia to be Very Low. A world full of bitchy self important douches.Who never shut up about what they dont believe would be very boring place to live.
One person has the "right" to force changes to the freedom of religion guaranteed by the Contitution? Can you spell "insanity"? What a load stupidity! It's time that real Americans (those who defend the rights of believers and atheists) to step up to the plate. No more Constitution shreddding by atheists who think they have some kind of right to end freedom of religion. Stick with the founding fathers or move to another atheist/communist country..
If a Nativity scene is not allowed then should a home town celebration of any kind i.e. beauty pageant, boy/girl scout activities, local school fund raisers or the honoring of any holidays be allowed as in Memorial day or Veterans day or US independence day (I hate that noise) or just shoot me, we can’t have any parades either on any public streets. This is not about religion, more so about you are wrong so I have to be right philosophy. There is always the struggle for power being fought, look.
Yeah, except there is no such thing as separation of church and state, the 1st amendment has always been interpreted literally and verbatim, meanwhile the Supreme Court declared this to be a Christian nation, and there are dozens of religious symbols proliferating public offices and property.
There can be no mistake, America was founded by Christians for the spreading of the gospel, in spite of the rewriting and strawmen arguments by all the pablum pukes out there.
Believers in Christ believe in creationism, atheist believe we came from nothing so let the believers have their Nativity Scene and let the atheist have their nothing. I do not find the non belief of God offensive, misguided but not offensive and do not entertain anyone who would not reciprocate the same feelings toward anyone of faith.
Jesus Chiris...KING OF KINGS & LORD OF LORDS, Please dont argue over this all we have to do is Believe that Christ came to Earth to save our souls!!!! Praying for you that you to might see that there is only one one way through & by the blood of JESUS CHRIST!!! PRAISE GOD IM READY TO GO!!!!!!!!!
Left wing, liberal minded, political correct, marist/socialist types are always worried about what everyone but, what Christian think and feel. Even though Christianity has been around for 2000 years and many of our greatest thinkers were Christian. I am insulted by the perverseness of left wing atheist! An anti-Christian method, typical left wing fool. Than they go on about hate laws and the need to hug muslims, what a bunch of two face hypocrites.
That's fine. Don't be a Christian. But, the law states there can be a Christian display on public property. By trying to intimidate and berate communitities who agree to these displays u r not only breaking the law (as ruled by the Supreme Court), ur pushing your religion of Atheism.
Precedent has been set and Christian displays are allowed in Public w/o necessity of equal time. Accept the ruling and move on my friend.
Specifically, Congress cannot pass laws regarding the establishment of a religion. That's all it says and that is all it has ever been interpreted as meaning.
@superhamzah85 LOL, we are all slaves are we not (to the government we put in power) with nothing not owned by the powers of the three houses, think not, do not pay your property taxes. I was agnostic until I began to study creation compared to evolution. To believe we all came from nothing is much more difficult for me to believe than divine intervention. Sometimes the light bulb just comes on, sometimes not.
@superhamzah85 I believe evolution explains the evolution of species not humans. I do not feel faith in my heart as I would hope for but I see the beauty of life all around me and I can not believe this all came from nothing without a superior being. Do you really think your ancestors had tails, rhetorical question.
I've noted the supreme court case 3 or 4 times on this thread proving your ilk wrong. One of Atheists biggest claims are that Christians speak from emotion, and not empirical evidence. I've given the Supreme court ruling indicating you're simply incorrect. You're ignoring evidence. It's your right and free will to do so.
I do hope you and yours do have a Merry Flying Spaghetti Monster Holiday! God Bless, Brother!
"gave his only begotten son" lol THINK ABOUT THIS FOR JUST 2 MIN lol......His ONLY begotten Son...like "GOD" couldnt make another son? lol come onnnn stop shutting your brain off when it comes to religion!!! geeeeeeeeeeeZ!
@nyyankfan05 - CHRISTmas (originally called Christ's Mass) is NOT pagan. The early Church merely borrowed the date from a pagan celebration of solstice and/or "Sun-God" Worship.
This sanctimonious host epitomizes the pathetic, holier-than-thou attitude of most Christians, and ignores the point of the FFRF complaint that The Constitution probits the government from promoting any religion in government or on public property. Christianity is, justifiably, offensive to the growing masses of unbrainwashed, science-loving, free thinking Americans who don't believe in gods, goblins, pixies, fairies, Fox News' claim that they're "Fair and Balanced" or other such blatant myths.
The point I think missed in these conversations is IF a majority of people in a respective community, vote to have "A" (as in one) particular theme up for a specified time they have that right. Atheists can have their "Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster" theme up at a separate date (IF the community votes it okay), and muslims can have a Ramadan theme up at a separate date (IF the community votes it okay).
@YouCruising You're wrong, You. Unless the community wants to construct a religiously themed display on someone's private property, they can't do it. That's why displays of The 10 Commandments have been forceably removed from court houses and buildings, etc. And careful what you wish for. If The Constitution changed to allow what you already think it does, and Muslims were to become the majority, you'd be seeing themed displays that offend you as much as The Nativity offends me.
Christians don't need government to promote Christianity. The majority of people can. These issues seem to always confuse what the will of the people is, and not the command of the government entity.
I'd venture to guess that the Community would say, "lets pick ONE theme to have up during December, and that theme is Christmas."
If they did, than sanctimonious Atheists such as yourself wouldnt have a leg to stand on.
@YouCruising I'd sooner wipe my ass with your "God Bless" and your bible. Ok, smartass, The Constitution, which prohibits government property from being used to display (AKA "promote") religious "themes", was written to protect the rights of the individual from the will of the majority. That's why a majority of white people can't vote to outlaw interracial marriage. Incidentally, I'm not sanctimonious, because I don't believe in sanctimony. I'm simply right.
"In a landmark 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court ruled that the City of Pleasant Grove, Utah, need not accommodate the demands of a small religious sect known as the Summum, who sued the city for rejecting a monument of the religion’s 'Seven Aphorisms' for display in the same park."
The precedent being? Right to Publicly Display Ten Commandments in Pleasant Grove, Utah Park.
So, this clearly shows precedent that I'm not wrong. No apologies necessary, Bro ;)
@MrSeattleNative Thats Weird. Im not very religious. But I dont believe in Assholes. That MeanYou & Dick Dawkins Must not exist. Yes there's separation of church and state. But that also goes along with freedom of religion. Anti Theist seem determined to get rid of any religious symbol (even if its a death marker) from public view. Or insult as many people as possible. I wish you people get over you Atheist Utopia Fantasy. Its like wishing for Unicorns to fly out of your ass.
Jesus Christ himself said many would be offended by him. Atheists know the truth, that they are sinners going to the place reserved for the Devil and his followers. All the people who are casting Jesus Christ out of the public sphere would rather go to hell than bow to Christ. That is the truth of the matter. Nobody in the Nativity scene is a Christian. They are all Hebrews.
I was under the assumption Jesus was born in late spring/early summer. Also, the celebration of the winter solstice has been around much longer than Christmas. I might be wrong, but I don't think the bible says anything about hewing pine trees and decorating them either.
This is a great example of how journalism is dead in America. The host clearly stated that he was uninterested in having anyone on this show that didn't agree with him. So much for being a "news' show.....
Doesn't anybody pay attention to history! Christ's birthday was moved from summer to Dec 25 because othe Pagan holiday that was also celebrated on that day so that the Christains would not be prusecuted. And the Christmas tree was incorporated in the 7th century as a triangle to symbol the The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. It's called CHIRSmas for a reason.
No, the Winter Solstice is on the 21st or 22nd. But, you are correct that Jesus wasn't born on the 25th of December. Don't see the relevance since there are several Holidays not celebrated on the exact date they occurred. President Washington and Lincoln don't have the same birthday, yet we use Presidents day to celebrate both. Though, it's officially Washington's Birthday (per the Gov) that never falls on his birthday.
@LensOfTruth1689 Oh yeah sorry, you're right. I was labouring under the misaprehention that people celebrated the birth of Jesus on what they thought was the day he was born, just like every other normal person on the face of the planet who celebrates their birthday on the day they were born. Sooooreeeeee.
@leffehoegaarden Much to my apprehension of responding to an obvious troll, knowing that no matter what I say you will act like an ignorant child in response, I would like to remind you that Jesus was born nearly 2000 years ago. His birthday is unknown to us, therefore we celebrate it on a day we chose.
Thank you for standing up for Your Christian Belief!!! I wish more hosts would do that. It is so sad that we think everything has to be Politically Correct & Not stand up for what you believe in. Thank you again for taking charge & standing up for Christianity!!! We do Care!!! May God Bless you in the next days to come because I am sure you will have a lot of trouble from the Atheists & I am sorry you will have to go through that.
Christians are supposed to give answers to the world. We are not supposed to go about looking for arguments, but we must love people so much that we are willing to argue for the truth.
So now you're God and can see in my Heart what I'm feeling? I never hate. Hate is a disease that rots the soul.
p.s. I have no interest in investigating you as you do with me. I prefer my personal space. I'm sure you're a swell guy. I never sought you out in the first place, Brother.
@YouCruising Where did this come from? How is a warning not to judge me (by assuming I'm an atheist) turn into my positing myself as God? That's quite a lovely mobius strip of logic there. I suggested you look up Dagda not to "see who I am" but to educate you on my personal spiritual beliefs. As is common in Christianity, you choose to assume, judge and condemn. What a lovely religion *that* is.
Again, what Atheists don't quite grasp is the majority of people in a community can vote to have ONE scene any specific time. You people act like the Government is pushing it. If the people want it, you can't do anything about it. And the Government is not obligated to give equal time, either.
There's already Supreme Court precedent set. Which way do you think the community would favor during Christmas? Nativity or Spaghetti man?
So does that mean the majority is always right? So if the majority of voters support slavery for blacks, it means there is nothing wrong with slavery, right? It doesn't matter who set it up, it matters that because it is on the property of the government. Not including other beliefs prohibits their freedom to exercise their religion. So either you let every belief post a scene, or you keep everyone out. You don't base it on majority belief.
"In a landmark 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court ruled that the City of Pleasant Grove, Utah, need not accommodate the demands of a small religious sect known as the Summum, who sued the city for rejecting a monument of the religion’s 'Seven Aphorisms' for display in the same park."
The precedent? Right to PUBLICLY Display Ten Commandments in Pleasant Grove, Utah Park.
Just Civil Rights were decided in the Supreme Courts, so was this.
Host is strong to not be PC and booting the atheist off his show. This atheist group is weak in mind and only wants to stop the first amendment from being in existence. Separation of church and state does NOT exist. The 1st Amendment states only that Gov cannot establish or restrict the free exercise of religion. Atheism aka secular humanism is a religion (declared so by Supreme Ct in 1973) and they are forcing our government to restrict all other religions and est atheism as the state religion.
@saltypork3 There are excellent books on what the freedom of religion cause means in the Constitution. What I don't believe is forced nativity scenes by the Feds. If those in the community want do so... why not? You're forgetting the free exercise clause part of this. It can't originate from the gov but can originate from religious groups.
The host was being interrupted when he respectfully asked the "guest" not to interrupt and defame what he believed in. Did Mr. Bolling ever once say that Mr. Barker Atheist beliefs were an "insult?" Where do you equate that to being "weak" in faith? If someone said your wife was a "whXXX" and had a lot of partners you'd calmly sit back and listen? Maybe she did, and maybe she didn't. We don't know for sure.
I don't really watch t.v. much - we don't have satelite or cable, but I want to say that I truly appreciate what this host did. It IS his show and he took a VERY public stand for Christ and Christians. THANK YOU for taking a STAND.
@mmmpsalm71 Must be so tough being a Christian in a country that's overwhelmingly Christian. I can only imagine the persecution you must feel when someone else has the audacity to hold a different belief.
@chunandler "Must be so tough being a Christian in a country that's overwhelmingly Christian."
Is there persecution of muslims in countries that are nearly 100% muslim? True, most Christians are not being brutally beat. Rights are still being taken away. When many secularists make the laws and run the governments they don't necessarily play favorites to Christians. Sometimes they purposely rule against them to fit their own agenda(s). (i.e. former chief judge, Vaughn Walker of CA)
@YouCruising, Have you noticed how many Atheist in Texas are causing problems for Christians? The Atheist's in Texas are sure an angry bunch of people. They haven't been successful in any of their efforts to hurt Christians yet. That speaks well of the judges in Texas. :))
I agree. It is offensive what Dan Barker was saying; he was Speaking of the main tennent of the bible. Hell is offensive. Eric Bolling is a Touchy douche, and the "fair & balanced" fox network is neither. It's a propaganda machine. I am an ex-Christian, ex-republican, and ex-fox
@ahmnatheist Well Bud, I can tell you w/certainty u were never a Christian then. Most people who call themselves Christians have not really been saved.
"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." John 3:3
You'll know when ur born again & can see the Light.
Thats too bad hell is offensive. If u unfortunately head that direction, make sure to tell satan u don't appreciate the accommodations.
Barker was right, and Bolling is nothing more than a cowardly propagandist - typical FOX. Our government is for ALL the people, and so must remain neutral regarding religion. There are plenty of churches and plenty of private property where a religious display can go. And the claims of the other guests regarding "history" vis-a-vis the Founders' religious beliefs are irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, whether religious zealots want to believe it or not, the U.S. Constitution is secular.
Hmm? Seems like you've read a little too much John Locke. The Constitution says NOTHING about separation of Church and State. Our First Amendment rights are to continue to practice Christianity. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or PROHIBITING the free exercise thereof ..."
The motto of the US is what again? Oh yeah, "IN GOD WE TRUST"
Ur the hypocrite propagandist, Bro. U can celebrate your satan worshiping after Christmas.
@YouCruising That's the point which you are not comprehending. The First Amendment says that the government shall not have an established religion. By putting up a nativity scene, that government is choosing which religion to endorse.
First off, endorse and establishment have two completely different meanings. Getting beyond that, the real point is the birthday of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is traditionally celebrated that time of the year. It's the militant fringe bunch of Atheists et al. who're saying they need to supersede traditional Christmas celebrations.
How about the towns people vote on what scenes are allowed during particular times of the year? Why do athiests need to be "ANTI" at the same time? That's the REAL crust of the argument. Atheists & others need to do anti Christmas scenes, but not "pro" whatever their respective celebrations are at seperate times. Why can't the people have a voice? Athiests ALWAYS claim it's Gov promotion when if a poll was taking, the people would likely vote Nativity. Problem solved?
@YouCruising You're still missing the point. It has nothing to do with which particular belief is the most popular. It's the establishment of that government, essentially saying Christianity is more important than other religions or atheists beliefs. If that city wanted to put up tributes to every belief system, then I wouldn't be complaining. However, the facts are that if this city decided to put up a tribute to Islam, christians like yourself, would be raising hell.
@YouCruising I think this is what it really comes down to. You believe in freedom of religion, as long as it's your particular religion. I as an atheist believe that there should be equality. That's the difference between me and you. I believe in free speech for all people, regardless of their beliefs.
@YouCruising GOD does not equal Christianity. The treatment the atheist received from the host is an excellet example of Christian bigotry and hate. Get it off the public property. Thanks.
Talk about ignoring history. The original motto of the US was "E Pluribus Unum", which means "Out of many, one". It was changed to "In God We Trust" during the 50's at the height of the cold war. So, if the history of our nation and what the founding fathers wanted is so important, why don't we change it back?
Ahaha! Nice to see the bitter militant atheists are proving my point. They just can't handle not to be accepted as correct. They flock to attack any mention of God, Jesus, Christianity, or the Bible. I believe in God, yet I don't hunt down Atheist videos and try to make them believe. Atheists say Christians push their beliefs on other people, when in fact it's bitter atheists with no personal responsibility or moral aptitude who're constantly looking for prey.
why dont they just move it and stop the fight. I if this stays up it only gets worse ,I in freedom of what you believe then they should let theyre aathiest signs up. and let theyre beautiful nativity statues glow.
And I say no more backing down to Atheists. This country has lost much of its rich history because of militant atheism. The Bible was taught in schools for English and History for a 100 years. We used to say the Pledge of Allegiance every day in school. Now, we're obligated to separate from our history more and more until it's distorted or lost completely.
Atheists can no longer deny Jesus Christ existed (as they initially had). Now, they deny what HE was about.
@YouCruisinif a person really belies there is no god then why are they getting so upset over a nativity scene , cant they just enjoy the beauty it and let it be.
You're telling me. Atheists are the reason cities up less and less Christmas decorations. I remember as a kid the feeling I would get heading to my Downtown to see all the beauty and Love. People were happy and giving. Now, towns put up a string or two of lights and no wreaths. The love & cheer in the air is gone, yet they say they're giving us something better. All they do is take away from the faithful glee that built not only this Country, but much of the West.
I've had 5 atheists (who commented) hunt down this video to attack Christianity while pushing Atheism. Yet, they claim they're not a religion. They say they know how the Earth was created, how life began, where we're going when we die, and they want everyone to believe what they do. There are Atheist attack groups on Facebook and youtube. They gather together and plan out attacks, noting the best angle of attack. Those are militant atheists. Same as in the video.
@OWC2000 I watched you suggested video. If all those idiots left America I would shout "Hallelujah to the Lord..! " They are what's wrong with America..!!
P.S. Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize too.......for not doing a thing.! What a JOKE...!
Ha! I watched that video too. After I saw your comment, I decided to watch it. I normally don't watch videos unless friends suggest them. I get so many Leftists throwing opinionated videos at me. When I've watched them they're mostly Keith Olbermann-esque rants. No thanks! But, I did watch that video. And I agree with u completely. I'd be SO PLEASED if they'd all leave.
I very much like the non-referenced stats in the video. Much of that info is just for effect.
I agree with others on here, that aheism is actually a belief system and not to far removed from being a regilion, having said that, they seem to like to attack Christianity above all other believe/religious system. What I believe is missing in most atheist though, whether they are telling the truth or not is, spirit! They (atheist) are not attached that way, therefore, in my opinion, limited in their understandings. They are generally, rude, ignorant and aggressive, like left wingers...
By in far (from my understanding) most Atheists are Leftists. They strive for zero personal responsibility. That's not a Conservative mindset.
Atheists are a religion. Atheists have a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, & purpose of the universe. They theorize the beginning and the end. Richard Dawkins et al. are their deities. They also try to persuade people to follow them.
Look up people like Michael Newdow (Atheist advocate). He's a Minister of his own Church.
@YouCruising How is a group of people who consider humanity needs to take care of itself rather than trust in an intangible incomprehensible caretaker striving for zero personal responsibility? We're not the ones that pass the buck to Jesus.
Why did u seek out my video to spam YOUR opinions? Because everything I said is True. Atheists cannot accept when people don't agree with them. U require me and others to think like u. "why not try listening to them for a change?" Hmm, looking for people to believe what u do again. That's the militant Atheist religion my friend.
As for "humanity." U can thank OUR Lord & Savior Jesus Christ for saving us. U don't have to do anything u don't choose to. U have free will.
Atheists attack under the pretense that they're preventing Religion from influencing Government (which I agree Government and Theocracies shouldn't be intertwined). What they don't seem to understand is Atheism = Religion. By being militant atheists and imposing their beliefs where they're not asked for or wanted, they're obviously looking to be heard in hopes of gaining adherents.
@YouCruising I've sad exactly that so many times: Atheism is a belief system just as much as any other religion. And I have seen my share of atheist zealots self-righteously defend their religion just as much as any other religion. But OMG wow if you try to tell the atheists that atheism is a religion. They go nuts. From my POV, we just don't know. It is all a matter of faith. They have faith their is no god, based on the fact that they don't see or hear one. But it doesn't prove they're right.
Go to Barnes and Noble & look for books on Atheism. They're in the Religion section. Either book stores are classifying Atheism as a religion, or Atheists are in an attempt to gain more adherents.
I've heard this many times before... "it takes a lot more Faith to be an Atheist than it does to believe in God."
Atheists are making the news today scurrying around for the God particle (missing link). That lets me know even more that the end of the age is approaching.
@MissCaulks If you've repeated those tired old canards, its no wonder they go nuts. Rather then telling atheists that they follow a religion, why not try listening to them for a change?
@YouCruising Since when is looking for adherents a defining characteristic of a religion? And why do you call atheists militant for being civic-minded?
@Cafeeine Just so you are aware, seeking adherents (ie. proselytizing) is a defining characteristic of nearly all religions. The atheists don't go nuts b/c I repeat myself endlessly to them. They go nuts because they don't like to be called a religion or belief system. They want to be called "correct". Sorry, but the proof is not in yet to justufy that. So they defend their atheism as zealousy as other believers of other faiths, as we can plainly see here in all these posts.
So nice to see someone standing up for their faith.. :)
ModernPianoKing 6 days ago
Jesus would have loved a show named "Follow the Money".
HoodedThis 3 weeks ago
It's the town's town.
timmyinfrantry 1 month ago
Jesus and the Nativity are insulting? To who? Obviously somebody who is teetering on the edge of a nervous breakdown due to their over sensativity OR one of this guys friends from the FFRF.
cojay28 2 months ago
Those twats don't do atheism any favors by trying to pull down the least offensive symbol in all of christianity. They make the rest of us atheists look like bigoted idiots! Fucking trolls
TheFluffyDuck 2 months ago
let's send baker to saudi arbia or iran so they can chop his ugly head.
SuperMobly 2 months ago
The Lord made it very clear; John 3:19! However if a Muslim scene was displayed they wouldn't dare to complain, because there would be so many bombs on the streets that you could topple over them! We asked for it; we voted for immoral representatives that are nothing but left wing constipated, mental disordered, lunatic jackasses and here is the result and its far too late to do anything about it, and the church will suffer deeply for it. We are weighed in the balance and are found wanting!
PatriotEyes 2 months ago
@KOICrowz : My friend, unless you are ready to claim perfection, you are a sinful person just like the rest of us. That's not an insult, that's reality.
SummerSunshine1988 2 months ago
@KOICrowz There's nothing in the US Constitution that states a town can't be Christian.
Again: ALL towns in Texas are Christian towns.
The messages are most definitely anti-Christian, and are therefore hate speech.
There is no revealed scripture on the face of the planet that states your incorrect personal belief that God could have somehow "created" your hell. Jesus never once mentioned the word "hell" in his entire preaching campaign.
1GodOnlyOne 2 months ago
@KOICrowz every word following "Unless..." is why.
mrtadreamer 2 months ago
@mrtadreamer So.. Because I say things like slavery, Hell, killing a man for having sex with another man, and stoning a kid to death are either immoral or illegal.. I deserve to be treated badly?
Well, that's a great moral compass you have. Be sure to send my regards to the other baby-eating Nazi's I'm sure you hang out with.
KOICrowz 2 months ago
@KOICrowz You have said it.
Matthew 12:37
New King James Version (NKJV)
37 "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”
mrtadreamer 2 months ago
@mrtadreamer And not once have you even attempted to counter when I bring up the morality of the Bible.
Have fun worshiping your immoral dictator.
KOICrowz 2 months ago
@KOICrowz The morality of the Bible is absolute and unchanging, yours is is whatever you want to cobble together.
mrtadreamer 2 months ago
@mrtadreamer Again you just skip over my point.
The Bible having absolute morality is a strike against it, seeing as morality is not absolute.
I guarantee that if blindly surveyed on questions of slavery, genocide, murder, and more, an overwhelming majority of civilized people, hell, even Christians, would agree with my "cobbled together" moral values over God's.
KOICrowz 2 months ago
@KOICrowz spoken like a true satanist
mrtadreamer 2 months ago
@mrtadreamer So now I'm a satanist? Which kind? The kind the worships Satan, or the humanistic and carnal ones?
I'll spoil the answer for you; I'm neither. I'm a non-religious atheist. If I had to choose between God or Satan though, I would easily choose Satan. For all of the hype about his evilness, Satan sure doesn't do much. Hell, his biggest sin was disobeying an admittedly jealous tyrant.
KOICrowz 2 months ago
@KOICrowz From the content of your answer, you're a satanist.
mrtadreamer 2 months ago
@mrtadreamer From the content of your answer, you're simply an idiot.
In the legitimate medical sense, not just the colloquial.
KOICrowz 2 months ago
@KOICrowz sorry, but that's the vway it is.
mrtadreamer 2 months ago
thank you Erick
jayhawk88z 2 months ago
ALL towns in Texas are Christian towns.
"Anti-Christian" messages are not protected under free speech because they are considered hate speech. There is no scripture on the planet that states that Jesus "created a hell," or "a place of torture."
Barker is a hateful, ignorant, uneducated, deluded moron, and he deserves to be kicked off every platform on which he attempts to crap out his demonic lies.
1GodOnlyOne 2 months ago
@1GodOnlyOne - Please don't fall into the "nicer than God" syndrome. (Please see Pastor Bob Enyart's writings on the subject.) We need not apologize for hell or step softly around it.
GlorifiedTruth 2 months ago
@1GodOnlyOne The religious beliefs of a town's inhabitants are irrelevant when it comes to the first amendment of the Constitution. Displays of a religious nature do not belong on government property because it gives the impression that the government endorses the religion depicted by the display. It's illegal! Laws may not be ignored by any group just because certain citizens, to the exclusion of others, want it that way.
Godfree5 2 months ago
@Godfree5
See Supreme Court rulings: Van Orden v. Perry & Pleasant Grove City v. Summum.
Then consider that 74% of Americans Support Religious Displays on Public Property: rasmussenreports. com/public_content/lifestyle/holidays/december_2008/74_support_religious_displays_on_public_property.
All Atheists know how to do is sue, costing tax payers & majority of people who think ur hateful bigots millions of dollars. Just mind your own business and quit trying to rewrite US history.
YouCruising 2 months ago
@YouCruising Perfect!
cojay28 2 months ago
Good for Eric Bolling!
atheists = anti-God, anti-Christ, anti-truth, anti-Ameracan, anti-life.
mrtadreamer 2 months ago
Good for Eric Bolling!
atheists = anti-God, anti-Christ, anti-truth, anti-Ameracan, anti-life.
mrtadreamer 2 months ago
Good for Eric Bolling!
atheists = anti-God, anti-Christ, anti-truth, anti-Ameracan, anti-life.
mrtadreamer 2 months ago
Atheists are the minority in this country, so why are we letting the minority rule and say what the majority can display. If these ridiculous hate mongering atheist with their anti-God agenda think the nativity is offensive, then don't look at it, but lets not prevent the majority from enjoying this display. Christmas is a recognized American Holiday. If you atheists don't like it, then move to Norway or Albania
BT3701 2 months ago
@BT3701 1. The founders of this country specifically set it up to not let the majority tyrannize the minority.
2. I'm sick of hearing this "if it's so offensive" bullshit. The argument is about the first amendment, and how it's unconstitutional to give preference to any one religion. If you don't like living in a secular country, try moving to one of the actual Christian countries in Africa.
KOICrowz 2 months ago
@KOICrowz The First Amendment guarantees us FREEDOM OF RELIGION - not Freedom from Religion as those in the minority would prefer. Tired of living in a country where you're on the minority side? Tired of living in a country where approximately 80% - 85% believe in God? Then maybe you should consider moving to an atheist country like Norway.
BT3701 2 months ago
Atheist like to boo hoo about the way they are treated, but they made their bed by their own choices. Let them sleep in it.
mrtadreamer 2 months ago
@mrtadreamer and why is there a lake of fire......?
mrtadreamer 2 months ago
I love the way the host stood up to that atheist and how he handled him. That's the way atheists deserve to be treated.
mrtadreamer 2 months ago
Soooo, Freedom From Religion Foundation wants to celebrate Winter Solstice instead of Christmas? Isn't that just another older religious celebration? Even the world "celebration" has it's roots in religion for goodness sake.
Maxxumless 2 months ago
I may be an atheist, but I don't think the nativity scene is "offensive." Religious symbols/scenes do belong on private property and churches. That's how I feel. For any government building to have a religious symbol/scene would be endorsing the religion. And lastly, shame on fox for kicking him off because he doesn't agree with him. There is such thing as listening to someone and not agreeing with them.
baahhhFATALITY11 2 months ago
The Holy Bible tells us that we all must make a choice to Believe in God or not. It's none of my buisness what anyone chooses but I CAN PRAY FOR YOUR SOUL because i want all to go to HEAVEN. The choice is yours & no one else. Im not gonna push CHRISTANITY ON ANYBODY SO DONT PUSH ATHEISM ON ME!!!!! Believe what you want it's your choice!! I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT OF JESUS CHRIST!!!!!
pray4goldin 2 months ago
I think Anti Theist take the separation of church and state to the extreme.First of separation of church and state is apart of religious freedom. You cant have religious freedom if one religion is dictating what the others can believe.I Frankly putting up signs that say "God is a Myth".Just seems childish.i think that the likelihood of an Atheist Utopia to be Very Low. A world full of bitchy self important douches.Who never shut up about what they dont believe would be very boring place to live.
Tuber77 2 months ago
One person has the "right" to force changes to the freedom of religion guaranteed by the Contitution? Can you spell "insanity"? What a load stupidity! It's time that real Americans (those who defend the rights of believers and atheists) to step up to the plate. No more Constitution shreddding by atheists who think they have some kind of right to end freedom of religion. Stick with the founding fathers or move to another atheist/communist country..
handy335 2 months ago
If a Nativity scene is not allowed then should a home town celebration of any kind i.e. beauty pageant, boy/girl scout activities, local school fund raisers or the honoring of any holidays be allowed as in Memorial day or Veterans day or US independence day (I hate that noise) or just shoot me, we can’t have any parades either on any public streets. This is not about religion, more so about you are wrong so I have to be right philosophy. There is always the struggle for power being fought, look.
jomitast 2 months ago
@jomitast I'm pretty sure it's about religion.
Crzywhiteboy182 2 months ago
@Crzywhiteboy182 Yes, in most peoples minds but not mine… not anymore.
jomitast 2 months ago
My faith is so strong that when I get offended I must kick a guest off my show.
JJPHILLYLG 2 months ago 4
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JJPHILLYLG 2 months ago
Yeah, except there is no such thing as separation of church and state, the 1st amendment has always been interpreted literally and verbatim, meanwhile the Supreme Court declared this to be a Christian nation, and there are dozens of religious symbols proliferating public offices and property.
There can be no mistake, America was founded by Christians for the spreading of the gospel, in spite of the rewriting and strawmen arguments by all the pablum pukes out there.
RawChristianSuperman 2 months ago
Believers in Christ believe in creationism, atheist believe we came from nothing so let the believers have their Nativity Scene and let the atheist have their nothing. I do not find the non belief of God offensive, misguided but not offensive and do not entertain anyone who would not reciprocate the same feelings toward anyone of faith.
jomitast 2 months ago
Jesus Chiris...KING OF KINGS & LORD OF LORDS, Please dont argue over this all we have to do is Believe that Christ came to Earth to save our souls!!!! Praying for you that you to might see that there is only one one way through & by the blood of JESUS CHRIST!!! PRAISE GOD IM READY TO GO!!!!!!!!!
pray4goldin 2 months ago
@pray4goldin
You've got no evidence.
superhamzah85 2 months ago
Left wing, liberal minded, political correct, marist/socialist types are always worried about what everyone but, what Christian think and feel. Even though Christianity has been around for 2000 years and many of our greatest thinkers were Christian. I am insulted by the perverseness of left wing atheist! An anti-Christian method, typical left wing fool. Than they go on about hate laws and the need to hug muslims, what a bunch of two face hypocrites.
GTCism 2 months ago
@GTCism
Your religion has no place in my life.
superhamzah85 2 months ago
@superhamzah85
That's fine. Don't be a Christian. But, the law states there can be a Christian display on public property. By trying to intimidate and berate communitities who agree to these displays u r not only breaking the law (as ruled by the Supreme Court), ur pushing your religion of Atheism.
Precedent has been set and Christian displays are allowed in Public w/o necessity of equal time. Accept the ruling and move on my friend.
Move to an Atheist majority community.
YouCruising 2 months ago
@YouCruising
Public property? We're talking about GOVERNMENT property. The Government cannot endorse any religious view.
superhamzah85 2 months ago
@superhamzah85
Specifically, Congress cannot pass laws regarding the establishment of a religion. That's all it says and that is all it has ever been interpreted as meaning.
RawChristianSuperman 2 months ago
@superhamzah85 LOL, we are all slaves are we not (to the government we put in power) with nothing not owned by the powers of the three houses, think not, do not pay your property taxes. I was agnostic until I began to study creation compared to evolution. To believe we all came from nothing is much more difficult for me to believe than divine intervention. Sometimes the light bulb just comes on, sometimes not.
jomitast 2 months ago
@jomitast
Evolution explains the evolution of lifeforms on earth over time. It does not explain where the universe comes from. No wonder you're confused. :-)
superhamzah85 2 months ago
@superhamzah85 I believe evolution explains the evolution of species not humans. I do not feel faith in my heart as I would hope for but I see the beauty of life all around me and I can not believe this all came from nothing without a superior being. Do you really think your ancestors had tails, rhetorical question.
jomitast 2 months ago
@superhamzah85
I've noted the supreme court case 3 or 4 times on this thread proving your ilk wrong. One of Atheists biggest claims are that Christians speak from emotion, and not empirical evidence. I've given the Supreme court ruling indicating you're simply incorrect. You're ignoring evidence. It's your right and free will to do so.
I do hope you and yours do have a Merry Flying Spaghetti Monster Holiday! God Bless, Brother!
YouCruising 2 months ago
@YouCruising
The atheists can put up their stuff?
superhamzah85 2 months ago
@superhamzah85
Speaking from historical legislative accuracy, your life has no place in my country.
RawChristianSuperman 2 months ago
"gave his only begotten son" lol THINK ABOUT THIS FOR JUST 2 MIN lol......His ONLY begotten Son...like "GOD" couldnt make another son? lol come onnnn stop shutting your brain off when it comes to religion!!! geeeeeeeeeeeZ!
If horses had gods the god would be a horse!
keaco73 2 months ago
@nyyankfan05 - CHRISTmas (originally called Christ's Mass) is NOT pagan. The early Church merely borrowed the date from a pagan celebration of solstice and/or "Sun-God" Worship.
TheLionbridgerater 2 months ago
this is hilarious...... eric just couldnt accept another mindframe
DimemanEvan420 2 months ago
@lorigonzo1 It's not celebrating his birth. Christmas is a pagan holiday. You don't own it and neither do I.
nyyankfan05 2 months ago
This sanctimonious host epitomizes the pathetic, holier-than-thou attitude of most Christians, and ignores the point of the FFRF complaint that The Constitution probits the government from promoting any religion in government or on public property. Christianity is, justifiably, offensive to the growing masses of unbrainwashed, science-loving, free thinking Americans who don't believe in gods, goblins, pixies, fairies, Fox News' claim that they're "Fair and Balanced" or other such blatant myths.
MrSeattleNative 2 months ago 3
@MrSeattleNative
The point I think missed in these conversations is IF a majority of people in a respective community, vote to have "A" (as in one) particular theme up for a specified time they have that right. Atheists can have their "Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster" theme up at a separate date (IF the community votes it okay), and muslims can have a Ramadan theme up at a separate date (IF the community votes it okay).
YouCruising 2 months ago
@YouCruising You're wrong, You. Unless the community wants to construct a religiously themed display on someone's private property, they can't do it. That's why displays of The 10 Commandments have been forceably removed from court houses and buildings, etc. And careful what you wish for. If The Constitution changed to allow what you already think it does, and Muslims were to become the majority, you'd be seeing themed displays that offend you as much as The Nativity offends me.
MrSeattleNative 2 months ago
@MrSeattleNative
Christians don't need government to promote Christianity. The majority of people can. These issues seem to always confuse what the will of the people is, and not the command of the government entity.
I'd venture to guess that the Community would say, "lets pick ONE theme to have up during December, and that theme is Christmas."
If they did, than sanctimonious Atheists such as yourself wouldnt have a leg to stand on.
God Bless and have a Merry Christmas!
YouCruising 2 months ago
@YouCruising I'd sooner wipe my ass with your "God Bless" and your bible. Ok, smartass, The Constitution, which prohibits government property from being used to display (AKA "promote") religious "themes", was written to protect the rights of the individual from the will of the majority. That's why a majority of white people can't vote to outlaw interracial marriage. Incidentally, I'm not sanctimonious, because I don't believe in sanctimony. I'm simply right.
MrSeattleNative 2 months ago 3
@MrSeattleNative
"In a landmark 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court ruled that the City of Pleasant Grove, Utah, need not accommodate the demands of a small religious sect known as the Summum, who sued the city for rejecting a monument of the religion’s 'Seven Aphorisms' for display in the same park."
The precedent being? Right to Publicly Display Ten Commandments in Pleasant Grove, Utah Park.
So, this clearly shows precedent that I'm not wrong. No apologies necessary, Bro ;)
YouCruising 2 months ago
@MrSeattleNative Thats Weird. Im not very religious. But I dont believe in Assholes. That MeanYou & Dick Dawkins Must not exist. Yes there's separation of church and state. But that also goes along with freedom of religion. Anti Theist seem determined to get rid of any religious symbol (even if its a death marker) from public view. Or insult as many people as possible. I wish you people get over you Atheist Utopia Fantasy. Its like wishing for Unicorns to fly out of your ass.
Tuber77 2 months ago
@lorigonzo1 Here's a quick tip. The december holiday was around way before "Christ" came along. Where do you think the trees came from?
chunandler 2 months ago
@lorigonzo1 i wonder how many athiests out there that tell theyer kids that theres a santa? growing up, i knew one family that did.
shadowconcert 2 months ago
Jesus Christ himself said many would be offended by him. Atheists know the truth, that they are sinners going to the place reserved for the Devil and his followers. All the people who are casting Jesus Christ out of the public sphere would rather go to hell than bow to Christ. That is the truth of the matter. Nobody in the Nativity scene is a Christian. They are all Hebrews.
poppi4012 2 months ago
I love this video!!!:) It's good to see Christians still standing up for Christ!:)
mangofinity 2 months ago
I was under the assumption Jesus was born in late spring/early summer. Also, the celebration of the winter solstice has been around much longer than Christmas. I might be wrong, but I don't think the bible says anything about hewing pine trees and decorating them either.
Allucard090 2 months ago
@lorigonzo1 Aha! That's funny! And so hypocritical! You are so right! Honestly, these atheists really need to be put in their place.
MontChevalier 2 months ago
This is a great example of how journalism is dead in America. The host clearly stated that he was uninterested in having anyone on this show that didn't agree with him. So much for being a "news' show.....
TonyRush 2 months ago
persecution is coming guys.. this is crazy
ivanasimic1 2 months ago
Doesn't anybody pay attention to history! Christ's birthday was moved from summer to Dec 25 because othe Pagan holiday that was also celebrated on that day so that the Christains would not be prusecuted. And the Christmas tree was incorporated in the 7th century as a triangle to symbol the The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. It's called CHIRSmas for a reason.
MMHOBBS08 2 months ago
@MMHOBBS08 Do you know who moved the celebration to the 25th?
MontChevalier 2 months ago
@lorigonzo1 LOL. Jesus wasn't born on 25th December. It's the Solstice.
leffehoegaarden 2 months ago
@leffehoegaarden
No, the Winter Solstice is on the 21st or 22nd. But, you are correct that Jesus wasn't born on the 25th of December. Don't see the relevance since there are several Holidays not celebrated on the exact date they occurred. President Washington and Lincoln don't have the same birthday, yet we use Presidents day to celebrate both. Though, it's officially Washington's Birthday (per the Gov) that never falls on his birthday.
YouCruising 2 months ago
@leffehoegaarden Did lorigonzo1 say he was born on December 25th? I believe they said "Celebrate His birth".
LensOfTruth1689 2 months ago
@LensOfTruth1689 Oh yeah sorry, you're right. I was labouring under the misaprehention that people celebrated the birth of Jesus on what they thought was the day he was born, just like every other normal person on the face of the planet who celebrates their birthday on the day they were born. Sooooreeeeee.
leffehoegaarden 2 months ago
@leffehoegaarden Much to my apprehension of responding to an obvious troll, knowing that no matter what I say you will act like an ignorant child in response, I would like to remind you that Jesus was born nearly 2000 years ago. His birthday is unknown to us, therefore we celebrate it on a day we chose.
LensOfTruth1689 2 months ago
Thank you for standing up for Your Christian Belief!!! I wish more hosts would do that. It is so sad that we think everything has to be Politically Correct & Not stand up for what you believe in. Thank you again for taking charge & standing up for Christianity!!! We do Care!!! May God Bless you in the next days to come because I am sure you will have a lot of trouble from the Atheists & I am sorry you will have to go through that.
caringperson1000 2 months ago
I am a Christain
and I agree; the nativity seen is an insult to human nature.
That is becasue all humans are born with the condition of sin and the un-believers are enemies of God, and they hate the thruth of the light.
that man is doing what his sin nature drives him to do and that is hate Christ.
He hate the idea of being in need of a savior because he wants to be god of his on destiny.
he suffers from the same problem Satan has--desire to be God
ScottDaMoose 2 months ago 3
Christians are supposed to give answers to the world. We are not supposed to go about looking for arguments, but we must love people so much that we are willing to argue for the truth.
StraightUpBoxing 2 months ago
@dagda825
So now you're God and can see in my Heart what I'm feeling? I never hate. Hate is a disease that rots the soul.
p.s. I have no interest in investigating you as you do with me. I prefer my personal space. I'm sure you're a swell guy. I never sought you out in the first place, Brother.
YouCruising 2 months ago
@YouCruising Where did this come from? How is a warning not to judge me (by assuming I'm an atheist) turn into my positing myself as God? That's quite a lovely mobius strip of logic there. I suggested you look up Dagda not to "see who I am" but to educate you on my personal spiritual beliefs. As is common in Christianity, you choose to assume, judge and condemn. What a lovely religion *that* is.
dagda825 2 months ago
@dagda825
Get off your high horse, Bro. I was referring to the comment where you said that I was exuding "hate."
I already told you I have no interest in studying you. Sure you're a swell chap, Bro.
Take care and God Bless!
YouCruising 2 months ago
@YouCruising I'll get off the soap box when the nativity scene leaves the commons. Peace.
dagda825 2 months ago
@dagda825
Again, what Atheists don't quite grasp is the majority of people in a community can vote to have ONE scene any specific time. You people act like the Government is pushing it. If the people want it, you can't do anything about it. And the Government is not obligated to give equal time, either.
There's already Supreme Court precedent set. Which way do you think the community would favor during Christmas? Nativity or Spaghetti man?
Give it a rest before.
YouCruising 2 months ago
@YouCruising
So does that mean the majority is always right? So if the majority of voters support slavery for blacks, it means there is nothing wrong with slavery, right? It doesn't matter who set it up, it matters that because it is on the property of the government. Not including other beliefs prohibits their freedom to exercise their religion. So either you let every belief post a scene, or you keep everyone out. You don't base it on majority belief.
whoarentyou 2 months ago
@whoarentyou
Let me put this more plainly:
"In a landmark 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court ruled that the City of Pleasant Grove, Utah, need not accommodate the demands of a small religious sect known as the Summum, who sued the city for rejecting a monument of the religion’s 'Seven Aphorisms' for display in the same park."
The precedent? Right to PUBLICLY Display Ten Commandments in Pleasant Grove, Utah Park.
Just Civil Rights were decided in the Supreme Courts, so was this.
YouCruising 2 months ago
Host is strong to not be PC and booting the atheist off his show. This atheist group is weak in mind and only wants to stop the first amendment from being in existence. Separation of church and state does NOT exist. The 1st Amendment states only that Gov cannot establish or restrict the free exercise of religion. Atheism aka secular humanism is a religion (declared so by Supreme Ct in 1973) and they are forcing our government to restrict all other religions and est atheism as the state religion.
Writerdust 2 months ago
@Writerdust You don't believe putting up a nativity scene is establishing a religion? Really?
saltypork3 2 months ago
@saltypork3 There are excellent books on what the freedom of religion cause means in the Constitution. What I don't believe is forced nativity scenes by the Feds. If those in the community want do so... why not? You're forgetting the free exercise clause part of this. It can't originate from the gov but can originate from religious groups.
Writerdust 2 months ago
How weak is this Hosts faith, LOL what a weak retard.
TheTomtompiper 2 months ago
@TheTomtompiper
The host was being interrupted when he respectfully asked the "guest" not to interrupt and defame what he believed in. Did Mr. Bolling ever once say that Mr. Barker Atheist beliefs were an "insult?" Where do you equate that to being "weak" in faith? If someone said your wife was a "whXXX" and had a lot of partners you'd calmly sit back and listen? Maybe she did, and maybe she didn't. We don't know for sure.
YouCruising 2 months ago
Good man :)
deejrandom 2 months ago
Thank you for standing up for Christ! Be prepared for the atheist viral onslaught soon..
inhalejesus 2 months ago
Yay, Eric Bolling. The Atheist was offensive, so he was removed. How appropriate!
steveb7777 2 months ago
Christ wins
jjajpro 2 months ago
I don't really watch t.v. much - we don't have satelite or cable, but I want to say that I truly appreciate what this host did. It IS his show and he took a VERY public stand for Christ and Christians. THANK YOU for taking a STAND.
mmmpsalm71 2 months ago 3
@mmmpsalm71 Must be so tough being a Christian in a country that's overwhelmingly Christian. I can only imagine the persecution you must feel when someone else has the audacity to hold a different belief.
chunandler 2 months ago
@chunandler "Must be so tough being a Christian in a country that's overwhelmingly Christian."
Is there persecution of muslims in countries that are nearly 100% muslim? True, most Christians are not being brutally beat. Rights are still being taken away. When many secularists make the laws and run the governments they don't necessarily play favorites to Christians. Sometimes they purposely rule against them to fit their own agenda(s). (i.e. former chief judge, Vaughn Walker of CA)
YouCruising 2 months ago
I Love It!
Thefreeheart 2 months ago
@YouCruising, Have you noticed how many Atheist in Texas are causing problems for Christians? The Atheist's in Texas are sure an angry bunch of people. They haven't been successful in any of their efforts to hurt Christians yet. That speaks well of the judges in Texas. :))
ChristianChannel1 2 months ago
...ex-fox news watcher. (stupid YT mobile accidentally sent last comment).
ahmnatheist 2 months ago
I agree. It is offensive what Dan Barker was saying; he was Speaking of the main tennent of the bible. Hell is offensive. Eric Bolling is a Touchy douche, and the "fair & balanced" fox network is neither. It's a propaganda machine. I am an ex-Christian, ex-republican, and ex-fox
ahmnatheist 2 months ago
@ahmnatheist Well Bud, I can tell you w/certainty u were never a Christian then. Most people who call themselves Christians have not really been saved.
"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." John 3:3
You'll know when ur born again & can see the Light.
Thats too bad hell is offensive. If u unfortunately head that direction, make sure to tell satan u don't appreciate the accommodations.
YouCruising 2 months ago
Barker was right, and Bolling is nothing more than a cowardly propagandist - typical FOX. Our government is for ALL the people, and so must remain neutral regarding religion. There are plenty of churches and plenty of private property where a religious display can go. And the claims of the other guests regarding "history" vis-a-vis the Founders' religious beliefs are irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, whether religious zealots want to believe it or not, the U.S. Constitution is secular.
ticktockman007 2 months ago
@ticktockman007
Hmm? Seems like you've read a little too much John Locke. The Constitution says NOTHING about separation of Church and State. Our First Amendment rights are to continue to practice Christianity. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or PROHIBITING the free exercise thereof ..."
The motto of the US is what again? Oh yeah, "IN GOD WE TRUST"
Ur the hypocrite propagandist, Bro. U can celebrate your satan worshiping after Christmas.
YouCruising 2 months ago
@YouCruising That's the point which you are not comprehending. The First Amendment says that the government shall not have an established religion. By putting up a nativity scene, that government is choosing which religion to endorse.
saltypork3 2 months ago
@saltypork3
First off, endorse and establishment have two completely different meanings. Getting beyond that, the real point is the birthday of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is traditionally celebrated that time of the year. It's the militant fringe bunch of Atheists et al. who're saying they need to supersede traditional Christmas celebrations.
YouCruising 2 months ago
@saltypork3
How about the towns people vote on what scenes are allowed during particular times of the year? Why do athiests need to be "ANTI" at the same time? That's the REAL crust of the argument. Atheists & others need to do anti Christmas scenes, but not "pro" whatever their respective celebrations are at seperate times. Why can't the people have a voice? Athiests ALWAYS claim it's Gov promotion when if a poll was taking, the people would likely vote Nativity. Problem solved?
YouCruising 2 months ago
@YouCruising You're still missing the point. It has nothing to do with which particular belief is the most popular. It's the establishment of that government, essentially saying Christianity is more important than other religions or atheists beliefs. If that city wanted to put up tributes to every belief system, then I wouldn't be complaining. However, the facts are that if this city decided to put up a tribute to Islam, christians like yourself, would be raising hell.
saltypork3 2 months ago
@YouCruising I think this is what it really comes down to. You believe in freedom of religion, as long as it's your particular religion. I as an atheist believe that there should be equality. That's the difference between me and you. I believe in free speech for all people, regardless of their beliefs.
saltypork3 2 months ago
@YouCruising GOD does not equal Christianity. The treatment the atheist received from the host is an excellet example of Christian bigotry and hate. Get it off the public property. Thanks.
dagda825 2 months ago
@YouCruising
Talk about ignoring history. The original motto of the US was "E Pluribus Unum", which means "Out of many, one". It was changed to "In God We Trust" during the 50's at the height of the cold war. So, if the history of our nation and what the founding fathers wanted is so important, why don't we change it back?
azuravian 2 months ago
Frredom is also to others to belive or not ! Sooooooooo the Atheist must accept that soooooo shut up !!!
MsGLULU 2 months ago
Ahaha! Nice to see the bitter militant atheists are proving my point. They just can't handle not to be accepted as correct. They flock to attack any mention of God, Jesus, Christianity, or the Bible. I believe in God, yet I don't hunt down Atheist videos and try to make them believe. Atheists say Christians push their beliefs on other people, when in fact it's bitter atheists with no personal responsibility or moral aptitude who're constantly looking for prey.
YouCruising 2 months ago
God killed his only son? He sounds like a nice guy.
manmadesounds 2 months ago
why dont they just move it and stop the fight. I if this stays up it only gets worse ,I in freedom of what you believe then they should let theyre aathiest signs up. and let theyre beautiful nativity statues glow.
annahudson76 2 months ago
@annahudson76
And I say no more backing down to Atheists. This country has lost much of its rich history because of militant atheism. The Bible was taught in schools for English and History for a 100 years. We used to say the Pledge of Allegiance every day in school. Now, we're obligated to separate from our history more and more until it's distorted or lost completely.
Atheists can no longer deny Jesus Christ existed (as they initially had). Now, they deny what HE was about.
YouCruising 2 months ago 2
@YouCruisinif a person really belies there is no god then why are they getting so upset over a nativity scene , cant they just enjoy the beauty it and let it be.
annahudson76 2 months ago
@annahudson76
You're telling me. Atheists are the reason cities up less and less Christmas decorations. I remember as a kid the feeling I would get heading to my Downtown to see all the beauty and Love. People were happy and giving. Now, towns put up a string or two of lights and no wreaths. The love & cheer in the air is gone, yet they say they're giving us something better. All they do is take away from the faithful glee that built not only this Country, but much of the West.
YouCruising 2 months ago
@annahudson76
I've had 5 atheists (who commented) hunt down this video to attack Christianity while pushing Atheism. Yet, they claim they're not a religion. They say they know how the Earth was created, how life began, where we're going when we die, and they want everyone to believe what they do. There are Atheist attack groups on Facebook and youtube. They gather together and plan out attacks, noting the best angle of attack. Those are militant atheists. Same as in the video.
YouCruising 2 months ago
I would love to throw all Atheist out of America.
USoSilly2Me 2 months ago
@USoSilly2Me How sad for you. Watch "Imagine if all atheists left America",
OWC2000 2 months ago
@OWC2000 I watched you suggested video. If all those idiots left America I would shout "Hallelujah to the Lord..! " They are what's wrong with America..!!
P.S. Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize too.......for not doing a thing.! What a JOKE...!
USoSilly2Me 2 months ago
@USoSilly2Me
Ha! I watched that video too. After I saw your comment, I decided to watch it. I normally don't watch videos unless friends suggest them. I get so many Leftists throwing opinionated videos at me. When I've watched them they're mostly Keith Olbermann-esque rants. No thanks! But, I did watch that video. And I agree with u completely. I'd be SO PLEASED if they'd all leave.
I very much like the non-referenced stats in the video. Much of that info is just for effect.
YouCruising 2 months ago
I love this!! God bless the men for standing up for Jesus Christ. Great video.
ChristianChannel1 2 months ago
I agree with others on here, that aheism is actually a belief system and not to far removed from being a regilion, having said that, they seem to like to attack Christianity above all other believe/religious system. What I believe is missing in most atheist though, whether they are telling the truth or not is, spirit! They (atheist) are not attached that way, therefore, in my opinion, limited in their understandings. They are generally, rude, ignorant and aggressive, like left wingers...
GTCism 2 months ago
@GTCism
By in far (from my understanding) most Atheists are Leftists. They strive for zero personal responsibility. That's not a Conservative mindset.
Atheists are a religion. Atheists have a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, & purpose of the universe. They theorize the beginning and the end. Richard Dawkins et al. are their deities. They also try to persuade people to follow them.
Look up people like Michael Newdow (Atheist advocate). He's a Minister of his own Church.
YouCruising 2 months ago
@YouCruising How is a group of people who consider humanity needs to take care of itself rather than trust in an intangible incomprehensible caretaker striving for zero personal responsibility? We're not the ones that pass the buck to Jesus.
Cafeeine 2 months ago
@Cafeeine
Why did u seek out my video to spam YOUR opinions? Because everything I said is True. Atheists cannot accept when people don't agree with them. U require me and others to think like u. "why not try listening to them for a change?" Hmm, looking for people to believe what u do again. That's the militant Atheist religion my friend.
As for "humanity." U can thank OUR Lord & Savior Jesus Christ for saving us. U don't have to do anything u don't choose to. U have free will.
YouCruising 2 months ago
@GTCism Rude, ignorant and aggressive? Like kicking a person of one's show because one doesn't like what he's saying?
Cafeeine 2 months ago
Thumbs up to these two for standing for the Truth. Praise God that there are still such people left in the world.
ChristLikeness100 2 months ago
Atheists attack under the pretense that they're preventing Religion from influencing Government (which I agree Government and Theocracies shouldn't be intertwined). What they don't seem to understand is Atheism = Religion. By being militant atheists and imposing their beliefs where they're not asked for or wanted, they're obviously looking to be heard in hopes of gaining adherents.
YouCruising 2 months ago
@YouCruising I've sad exactly that so many times: Atheism is a belief system just as much as any other religion. And I have seen my share of atheist zealots self-righteously defend their religion just as much as any other religion. But OMG wow if you try to tell the atheists that atheism is a religion. They go nuts. From my POV, we just don't know. It is all a matter of faith. They have faith their is no god, based on the fact that they don't see or hear one. But it doesn't prove they're right.
MissCaulks 2 months ago
@MissCaulks
Go to Barnes and Noble & look for books on Atheism. They're in the Religion section. Either book stores are classifying Atheism as a religion, or Atheists are in an attempt to gain more adherents.
I've heard this many times before... "it takes a lot more Faith to be an Atheist than it does to believe in God."
Atheists are making the news today scurrying around for the God particle (missing link). That lets me know even more that the end of the age is approaching.
YouCruising 2 months ago
@MissCaulks If you've repeated those tired old canards, its no wonder they go nuts. Rather then telling atheists that they follow a religion, why not try listening to them for a change?
Cafeeine 2 months ago
@YouCruising Since when is looking for adherents a defining characteristic of a religion? And why do you call atheists militant for being civic-minded?
Cafeeine 2 months ago
@Cafeeine Just so you are aware, seeking adherents (ie. proselytizing) is a defining characteristic of nearly all religions. The atheists don't go nuts b/c I repeat myself endlessly to them. They go nuts because they don't like to be called a religion or belief system. They want to be called "correct". Sorry, but the proof is not in yet to justufy that. So they defend their atheism as zealousy as other believers of other faiths, as we can plainly see here in all these posts.
MissCaulks 2 months ago