We've just had a death in New Zealand which is "maybe" linked to this vacine and I remember reading last year about the issues connected with it. I don't see waht teh big debate is. If it causes harm, DON'T PUT IT IN PEOPLE. We need to put our foot down on this one, no more shugging it off. I'm so tired of our medical system screwing people, right down to the Sodium Floride in the water. I'm so sick of hearing abou it, we need to DO something about it. Now, not later. -Liam
Sad. This is just very sad. To think that our government is now trying to mandate taking this vaccine as a law. Of course, they have to try to make up the money Merk lost when forced to pay fines, lawsuits, etc. from some of their other drugs lately. It just wouldn't 'do' to allow big pharm to lose money! Disgusting. I hope people stop taking this vaccine NOW, and if the government tries to force our hand, take to the streets. Riot. Do whatever is necessary to save our kids.
you can all debate and disagree as you like. But this 15 yr old girl is my Gr-daughter. And due to the High content. Of the mercury & components in Gardasil. She is Now Terminal. Due to the damage to her Central Nervous system. Which can Not be repaired or undone. SO IN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION- ARE HER SIDE EFFECTS EVEN LONG TERM? J WOULD SAY- TERMINAL SAYS IT ALL. We watch her fight Daily to stay Alive.
"many physicians"? how many? and why? that is 1 of your assumptions.
"there are other factors at play" which ones? do you even know why HPV causes cervical cancer? the mechanism? i stated just correlation, but the scientifical explanation also exists, i used the stats to simplify.
I agree with you. i prefer cervarix: it has more cross protection, but Merck has made a better deal... but you can buy cervarix, but it will cost more (because vaccines are not money -makers)
i do educate people about alternative views, the difference is i support my claims with study, evidence. Not assumptions based on pure fear.
If you believe i have not done my research:
DeVita, Hellman, and Rosenberg's CANCER, by Vincent T. DeVita, Theodore S Lawrence - nice big book about how and why HPV causes cancer. importance of the vaccine.
Everyone's Guide to Cancer Therapy, Andrew H. Ko, Malin Dollinger, Ernest H. - different therapies, prevention and relation of HPV to cancer
Because it is a vaccine against a factor who represents more than 70% of cervical cancers. Read the tests, medical technical explanation, microbiology about the virus. Read the pathological mechanism. Don't read about the technical aspects of anything coming from a journalist with no background in science.
do you have proof to make the claim: "side effects are long lasting"? because i've seen none. How serious btw?
The conection is not clear? 99,7% of cervical cancers have some type of HPV detected and 70% of them have strong correlation to cervical cancer. Murray, Medical microbiology.
education is not more effective than papa smears. But most young women go to late for it. that's why the vaccine.
even though "unthetical testing" might exist... it does not take credit to what works.
I trust the evidence presented and verified. Everyone in this world only works to get paid. Why merck or any other pharma company should be different? shall we blame Toy companies from trying to make a profit?
Do you have proof of the "unethical" testing? or just conspiracy theories?
Vaccines keep being effective, you just have to check WHO to see how good they are after a vaccination program boost anywhere in the world.
If HPV was "low risk" it wouldn't be in 70% of the cervical cancer. Education and safe sex sure helps. Mainly convincing young women to do pap smears per 1-2 years (more effective than the vaccine), but you can't cover more than 50%. Most women only go after 20 years of age to a ginocologist...that's the reality, that's why the "push" for the vaccine. You have more vaccines (i.e. cervarix). Merck just does the best of it at the moment.
The age of 9-12 is because it's the age before sexual intercourse, as the malignant forms of the virus are more sexually transmitted.
The 26 years, is because it was not tested in women of older age, and has been proved efficient even at that age.
long-term studies have been done to 5-7 years by now. As the time passes more will come. Side-effects were extensively studied, but some new might occur. until now, none serious and long term.
'Transatlantic'...you're obviously a shill for Pharma w/your transparent attempts to promote vaccines, in particular the Gardasil vaccine. This vaccine has caused significant neurological damage among girls w/over 11,000 adverse events reported and 40 deaths. These numbers are under-reported in that less than 10% of vaccine reactions are registered w/VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System). Over $91 mlllion was paid out in 2007 for vaccine damage/death and close to $2 billion since '86
promoting gardasil? not at all. i promote vaccines in general. I promote HPV vaccines, i've refered before to i.e. cervarix.
No long term "neurological damage" was seen in any of those 11k girls. and no deaths correlated to the vaccine.
the money was paid for the adverse reactions and if i am correct 1 death (not correlated to the vaccine, but that happened in the same timing). since 86.
'Transatlantic'...Once again, who do you work for? You're a shameless promoter of Pharma and obviously are employed by them or the FDA or CDC. A drug lobbyist or rep perhaps? Come clean... What vaccines, pray tell, do you take yourself? I think they've messed w/your brain. You have too much time on your hands. Do something constructive like volunteer at a soup kitchen or a rehabilitative hospital where they can certainly use someone of your calibre to empty bed pans, etc.
How do you know the person had serious side effects? what type of side-effects? weren't they harmeless and temporary?
How do you know was poorly tested? have you read the studies?
HPV is found in 99,7% of cervical cancers. 70% of them have malignant HPV. Proof? hundreds of articles. If you prefer a book try this one: Murray, medical microbiology. the rush it's because it works and is preventive. vaccines work and are not money making unless sold at full capacity.
do you all know that this shot was not even made for hpv. It is a money making thing it was not suppose to come out till this fall or winter.Go on to google and google : fda report gardasil may 2006 and then also google nhs hpv fact sheet. when you google the fact sheet it's the second one down. Wehn you google the fda report may 2006 it's the third one down. Thank you i hope this helps you all so you wont get the shot
In Sweden they try to sell this shit to young girls too. I told my daughter about the effects the shot may have and showed her the video - she now says "NO! Why take a possible dangerous shot/vaccin, if I don´t have sex, I´m too young for that shit anyway..." she shook her head and looked at me and said "Thanx mum!" :) Personally I thank all the people who work against poisoning the people. Thank you all, warm hugs from me and my daughter.
If you only sleep with your husband, you don't even need it. Ever think of that one, America? How about the fact that this only protects against four virus' & there are 40 more out there? Keep your germs to yourself, or at the very least, use some protection. Then tell them to shove their shots. One place I lived tried to REQUIRE girls to take the shot, even if they were virgins who planned to stay that way until marriage. What is wrong with this stupid world? Let's try VALUES again. Good grief!
Neurological disorders sound too familiar nowadays. Could it be the combination of the vaccine with mercury laden high fructose corn syrup that contains pesticides made by Monsanto the nerve gas makers? Stop GMO foods first then you take out that variable. They have not been labeled for the past 20 years so Monsanto/ FDA can make a profit. Contact your representative to vote yes on the new bill H.R. 6636 which will require GMO food labeling on products so you will then have a choice. hawaiiseed.
The family felt "pressured by the commercial"? How about TURNING THE IDIOT BOX OFF and KEEPING IT OFF? It was a very expensive PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN to INFLUENCE ppl's THINKING ..and apparently it worked on a large % of the population.Just the way they were SELLING it,and so hard too,I KNEW it was bullsh*t. I knew it was dangerous&told all my friends with young girls NOT to get this shot,and why.And to look into ALL "vaccines".
The family felt "pressured by the commercial"? How about TURNING THE IDIOT BOX OFF and KEEPING IT OFF? It was a very expensive PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN to INFLUENCE ppl's THINKING ..and apparently it worked on a large % of the population.Just the way they were SELLING it,and so hard too,I KNEW it was bullsh*t. I knew it was dangerous&told all my friends with young girls NOT to get this shot,and why.And to look into ALL "vaccines".
We just don't all live in the same reality regarding medicine. Easily, most of the population still lives in a world in which, "They couldn't show it if it weren't true". Basically a world where the doctors are out of old Norman Rockwell paintings depicting them as that "kindly, old grandpa" with his stethoscope held to the boy's chest. How far from reality is that? It couldn't be farther! It's been a very long time since the FDA became the lap dog for "Big Pharma" seeing to all of its needs.
We've just had a death in New Zealand which is "maybe" linked to this vacine and I remember reading last year about the issues connected with it. I don't see waht teh big debate is. If it causes harm, DON'T PUT IT IN PEOPLE. We need to put our foot down on this one, no more shugging it off. I'm so tired of our medical system screwing people, right down to the Sodium Floride in the water. I'm so sick of hearing abou it, we need to DO something about it. Now, not later. -Liam
lemu4444 2 years ago
Sad. This is just very sad. To think that our government is now trying to mandate taking this vaccine as a law. Of course, they have to try to make up the money Merk lost when forced to pay fines, lawsuits, etc. from some of their other drugs lately. It just wouldn't 'do' to allow big pharm to lose money! Disgusting. I hope people stop taking this vaccine NOW, and if the government tries to force our hand, take to the streets. Riot. Do whatever is necessary to save our kids.
2hotinaz 2 years ago
you can all debate and disagree as you like. But this 15 yr old girl is my Gr-daughter. And due to the High content. Of the mercury & components in Gardasil. She is Now Terminal. Due to the damage to her Central Nervous system. Which can Not be repaired or undone. SO IN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION- ARE HER SIDE EFFECTS EVEN LONG TERM? J WOULD SAY- TERMINAL SAYS IT ALL. We watch her fight Daily to stay Alive.
beddley 2 years ago
"many physicians"? how many? and why? that is 1 of your assumptions.
"there are other factors at play" which ones? do you even know why HPV causes cervical cancer? the mechanism? i stated just correlation, but the scientifical explanation also exists, i used the stats to simplify.
I agree with you. i prefer cervarix: it has more cross protection, but Merck has made a better deal... but you can buy cervarix, but it will cost more (because vaccines are not money -makers)
transtlantic 3 years ago
i do educate people about alternative views, the difference is i support my claims with study, evidence. Not assumptions based on pure fear.
If you believe i have not done my research:
DeVita, Hellman, and Rosenberg's CANCER, by Vincent T. DeVita, Theodore S Lawrence - nice big book about how and why HPV causes cancer. importance of the vaccine.
Everyone's Guide to Cancer Therapy, Andrew H. Ko, Malin Dollinger, Ernest H. - different therapies, prevention and relation of HPV to cancer
transtlantic 3 years ago
Because it is a vaccine against a factor who represents more than 70% of cervical cancers. Read the tests, medical technical explanation, microbiology about the virus. Read the pathological mechanism. Don't read about the technical aspects of anything coming from a journalist with no background in science.
transtlantic 3 years ago
do you have proof to make the claim: "side effects are long lasting"? because i've seen none. How serious btw?
The conection is not clear? 99,7% of cervical cancers have some type of HPV detected and 70% of them have strong correlation to cervical cancer. Murray, Medical microbiology.
education is not more effective than papa smears. But most young women go to late for it. that's why the vaccine.
even though "unthetical testing" might exist... it does not take credit to what works.
transtlantic 3 years ago
I trust the evidence presented and verified. Everyone in this world only works to get paid. Why merck or any other pharma company should be different? shall we blame Toy companies from trying to make a profit?
Do you have proof of the "unethical" testing? or just conspiracy theories?
Vaccines keep being effective, you just have to check WHO to see how good they are after a vaccination program boost anywhere in the world.
Truth is based on evidence, not delusion.
transtlantic 3 years ago
If HPV was "low risk" it wouldn't be in 70% of the cervical cancer. Education and safe sex sure helps. Mainly convincing young women to do pap smears per 1-2 years (more effective than the vaccine), but you can't cover more than 50%. Most women only go after 20 years of age to a ginocologist...that's the reality, that's why the "push" for the vaccine. You have more vaccines (i.e. cervarix). Merck just does the best of it at the moment.
transtlantic 3 years ago
The age of 9-12 is because it's the age before sexual intercourse, as the malignant forms of the virus are more sexually transmitted.
The 26 years, is because it was not tested in women of older age, and has been proved efficient even at that age.
long-term studies have been done to 5-7 years by now. As the time passes more will come. Side-effects were extensively studied, but some new might occur. until now, none serious and long term.
transtlantic 3 years ago
why vaccines are not "money makers": if you get sick, you will pay more for treatment than if you just had a simple vaccine years before.
and you might get long term ill effects from easily prevented diseases....
Your ignorance on the subject is what is disgusting
transtlantic 3 years ago
i trust medical research and understanding. Pharma just produces a product, needed for treatment.
there will be more HPV vaccines (cervarix)
transtlantic 3 years ago
'Transatlantic'...you're obviously a shill for Pharma w/your transparent attempts to promote vaccines, in particular the Gardasil vaccine. This vaccine has caused significant neurological damage among girls w/over 11,000 adverse events reported and 40 deaths. These numbers are under-reported in that less than 10% of vaccine reactions are registered w/VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System). Over $91 mlllion was paid out in 2007 for vaccine damage/death and close to $2 billion since '86
mrbelley 3 years ago
promoting gardasil? not at all. i promote vaccines in general. I promote HPV vaccines, i've refered before to i.e. cervarix.
No long term "neurological damage" was seen in any of those 11k girls. and no deaths correlated to the vaccine.
the money was paid for the adverse reactions and if i am correct 1 death (not correlated to the vaccine, but that happened in the same timing). since 86.
FDA; WHO, CDC, and many other references
transtlantic 3 years ago
'Transatlantic'...Once again, who do you work for? You're a shameless promoter of Pharma and obviously are employed by them or the FDA or CDC. A drug lobbyist or rep perhaps? Come clean... What vaccines, pray tell, do you take yourself? I think they've messed w/your brain. You have too much time on your hands. Do something constructive like volunteer at a soup kitchen or a rehabilitative hospital where they can certainly use someone of your calibre to empty bed pans, etc.
mrbelley 3 years ago
i prefer to actually heal people and informe people correctly, instead of not presenting supporting evidence and insulting. Like you belley
transtlantic 3 years ago
How do you know the person had serious side effects? what type of side-effects? weren't they harmeless and temporary?
How do you know was poorly tested? have you read the studies?
HPV is found in 99,7% of cervical cancers. 70% of them have malignant HPV. Proof? hundreds of articles. If you prefer a book try this one: Murray, medical microbiology. the rush it's because it works and is preventive. vaccines work and are not money making unless sold at full capacity.
Boys are carriers of HPV
transtlantic 3 years ago
do you all know that this shot was not even made for hpv. It is a money making thing it was not suppose to come out till this fall or winter.Go on to google and google : fda report gardasil may 2006 and then also google nhs hpv fact sheet. when you google the fact sheet it's the second one down. Wehn you google the fda report may 2006 it's the third one down. Thank you i hope this helps you all so you wont get the shot
god bless you
katiemcnaughton 3 years ago
In Sweden they try to sell this shit to young girls too. I told my daughter about the effects the shot may have and showed her the video - she now says "NO! Why take a possible dangerous shot/vaccin, if I don´t have sex, I´m too young for that shit anyway..." she shook her head and looked at me and said "Thanx mum!" :) Personally I thank all the people who work against poisoning the people. Thank you all, warm hugs from me and my daughter.
Lumasch1 3 years ago 2
..... if your daughter gets cervix cancer because of HPV (i hope she doesn't)...try remember who was to blame....
transtlantic 3 years ago
The insert for the vaccine itself states it does not protect you from Cancer!!
samiam52078 3 years ago
If you only sleep with your husband, you don't even need it. Ever think of that one, America? How about the fact that this only protects against four virus' & there are 40 more out there? Keep your germs to yourself, or at the very least, use some protection. Then tell them to shove their shots. One place I lived tried to REQUIRE girls to take the shot, even if they were virgins who planned to stay that way until marriage. What is wrong with this stupid world? Let's try VALUES again. Good grief!
1hidden 3 years ago 4
Neurological disorders sound too familiar nowadays. Could it be the combination of the vaccine with mercury laden high fructose corn syrup that contains pesticides made by Monsanto the nerve gas makers? Stop GMO foods first then you take out that variable. They have not been labeled for the past 20 years so Monsanto/ FDA can make a profit. Contact your representative to vote yes on the new bill H.R. 6636 which will require GMO food labeling on products so you will then have a choice. hawaiiseed.
bluebirdsofafeather 3 years ago 2
Merc FDA and CDC don't put a lot of value on our children.
piwacket33 3 years ago 3
All a part of the "great depopulization" of the planet. Make girls and women die,or unable to carry a baby to term.
FREEW0RLD2012 3 years ago 3
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FREEW0RLD2012 3 years ago
That certinly depends on what you mean by "value".
Sausahga 3 years ago
They quashed and censored this one FAST!
Sausahga 3 years ago 4
unbelievable! Pushing what they don't even know for sure will do to you. Prayers are with the family.
ddiiaa52 3 years ago 3
The point being that they DO know.
Sausahga 3 years ago 4
The family felt "pressured by the commercial"? How about TURNING THE IDIOT BOX OFF and KEEPING IT OFF? It was a very expensive PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN to INFLUENCE ppl's THINKING ..and apparently it worked on a large % of the population.Just the way they were SELLING it,and so hard too,I KNEW it was bullsh*t. I knew it was dangerous&told all my friends with young girls NOT to get this shot,and why.And to look into ALL "vaccines".
FREEW0RLD2012 3 years ago 6
The family felt "pressured by the commercial"? How about TURNING THE IDIOT BOX OFF and KEEPING IT OFF? It was a very expensive PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN to INFLUENCE ppl's THINKING ..and apparently it worked on a large % of the population.Just the way they were SELLING it,and so hard too,I KNEW it was bullsh*t. I knew it was dangerous&told all my friends with young girls NOT to get this shot,and why.And to look into ALL "vaccines".
FREEW0RLD2012 3 years ago 3
We just don't all live in the same reality regarding medicine. Easily, most of the population still lives in a world in which, "They couldn't show it if it weren't true". Basically a world where the doctors are out of old Norman Rockwell paintings depicting them as that "kindly, old grandpa" with his stethoscope held to the boy's chest. How far from reality is that? It couldn't be farther! It's been a very long time since the FDA became the lap dog for "Big Pharma" seeing to all of its needs.
Sausahga 3 years ago 2
you tube won't let me share this? hhhmm
gangstagrannie 3 years ago 3