The NOVUS ORDO Debate and the confusion of Peter Dimond

[danthrplgst]

"Peter" has always been like that, even when he was a kid. Just a snot-nose, punk. He used to get beaten up a lot.

[14alonso88]

Is ther any way i can get the mp3 file or book recommendations on the councils and early church fathers. or if possible a copy of the works you have?

[garciadelacadena]

Regardless of your opinion about Br. Dimond, there's no doubt that the NOVUS ORDO is heretic and that a NEW CHURCH was founded from the heretic Vatican II council

This is something that both sides agree upon, Catholics who have preserved the true Catholicism that dates back to Apostolic times and heretics that would ask me if I believe in the pre-Vatican II church or in the Post-Vatican II church

What has happened after Vatican II is exactly the same thing that happened in England with Cranmer

[gnrhead]

First off--he's not "BROTHER" in any matter or any form whatsoever. Secondly, the "NOVUS ORDO" is heretic? That sentence makes no sense. Lastly, if you are going to claim the New Mass is invalid then answer the arguments put forth. As it stands, the argumentation and refutation delivered have not been refuted.

[garciadelacadena]

@gnrhead The Novus Ordo is invalid because:

1. The words of the consecration were changed.

2. It also becomes invalid when the Priests of the Novus Ordo Church do not use the proper matter (proper bread and wine),

3. And lastly, becomes invalid because the Novus Ordo priests don't have the intentions to consecrate since they no longer believe in the transubstantiation.

Please read a Catholic Catechism to know more about are the requirements for a valid consecration.

Viva Cristo Rey!!!

[AbdielAbiram]

I remember him responding with "it is clear that you are a spiritually blind fool" or something like that, but just always responding with something like that. I think he just likes being argumentative rather than assessing the worth of an argument or attaining truth.

[beatleswine]

Well of course! Those Dimond Bros are liars also! I challenged them to a debate and they turned me down flat? When you nail them on a dogma or refute them back in their faces, they resort to name calling. A true trademark of cowards!

[LovedbyTheKing1990]

yeah I noticed that also, there were like 3 times that he started his response with something along the lines of "well you have made it very clear how spiritually blind and ignorant you are". It got to the point that he was just getting mean, thats some good fruit, huh?

[mapollo]

People like Dimond want, or perhaps need, attention. They hope it validates them, a characteristic of a dysfunctional world view.

[beatleswine]

They also need MONEY! It keeps them on the web like their protestant friends like, Pat Roberts, Ted Haggard,etc...

[weirdlips13991]

what is the pnt of this. it slike arguing with a cult leader. you heard he couldnt answer scripture and called u a protestant cuz u used it. LOL isnt the bible catholic. i would have stopped this debate. crazy ppl dont change

[hipster2201]

just heard the debate. why do ppl follow the dimonds? he has to be ur most incompetent opponent yet. if he ever debates u again i;ll be suprised. you ripped him to shreds

[BlackCappa]

Down with sedevacantism!

[paxcoder]

Yay, new vids! I'll be watching out for them.

[stinkybonjour]

peters audio is bad. he comes out real loud and u come out very low. lol thats how all his stuff is