when pavliks dad said that pavlik and his trainer kinda have a father-son realtionship he looked kinda sad as if to say " lm supposed to be his father and know what hes feeling" maybe pavliks dad wasnt really involved in pavliks life as much as his trainer is
funny but taylor beat hopkins twice..pavlik beat taylor twice..one of which was a brutal KO and hopkins dominated pavlik and more over taylor and pavlik are outta the game and hopkins is getting ready for his may rematch vs pascal which happens to be on my bday=)
taylor shud fight williams if he can get the match-up, its the big p4p name he needs to get his career back on track, if he loses he'l know he cant beat the best and shud go
"Hand Picked" I dont know Bernard Hopkins,WInky Wright,Corey Spinks, Kasim Ouma,These guys were all Word Champions. He fought good because he would have lost his title thats the reason every champion should fight good. Jermain Has showed a lot of Heart even after he was knocked out and wanted a rematch right away. He isnt very talented skill wise but he makes up for it in HEART Jermain is how real boxers should be defending titles and not ducking tough fight.
Felix Retired after he lost to Winky. Arthur Abraham fought in Germany so Taylor really couldnt have fought him Abraham isnt even a big name fighter he just holds a title. Main Streem fans have no idea who he is. When you fight Bernard Hopkins twice then Winky Wright then Corey Spinks ( Who I thought won) you diserve to take an easy fight. Their is no such think as a "Hand Picked" Formor or Current World Champion. 4 world champions in a row who else did that.
Arthur Abraham Just hold a title this guys wasnt even sigificant in the divison at that time. He won a vacent belt and has really been fighting soft compititon ever since. Taylor would have ripped him apart he and Felix Strum. They might put up good fights but Jermain has fought better oppoents.
Lou DiBella is his promoter not Duva. How are Winky Wright and Bernard Hopkins hand picked. He didnt fight Calzaghe becasue They wanted him to come to Wales thats why Joe Calzaghe hasnt fought alot of guys for the longest he never wanted to leave the UK Jeff Lacy was the first fighter to actually go over there. You want to talk about hand picked fighters Joe Clazghe has fought his fare share of hand picked opponets.
Reguardless of who he fought and Why he still choose to fight them.
Boxers vacet titles all the time to so they dont have to take certain fight. Instead of giving his titles back he choose to fight. I dont care how unimpressive he looked he fought them and you have to respect that.
I dont know what handpicked fighters your talking about. Spinks and Ouma are tough fights for anybody SKILL WINS FIGHTS NOT WEIGHT. The 154 and 160 arnt that far apart those guys were World Champions 6 pounds isnt why they lost those fight.
I see your point weight does have an effect in some cases. However people use that as an excuse to discredit fighters. How many times have we seen smaller guys move up and dominate bigger fighters. Manny Pacquio just did it a few weeks ago. Their size isnt Jermain Taylors fault people wernt saying that before the fight so dont try and lean on it after the fight. 2 inches and 6 pounds dosent wins fights. Look at Chirs Bryd he won the Heavyweight title from guys outweighing him by 20+ pounds.
You just said it " Good Skill" thats all you need to win a fight. Taylor Beat him then he fought the winner of Pavlik vs Maranda. He did exactly what was asked of him. Nobody asked him to move up fight Clazaghe,nobody asked him to fight an unknown title holder in Arthur Abraham they asked him to fight Pavlik Or Maranda and he did.
first hopkins fight hopkins shoulda got the decision and the second one could have gone either way. wright beat him flat out...and the ouma and spinks fights were ugly but he def won.
Hopkins Wright and Pavlik were the best fighters in Taylor's weight division. He fought them all. If those are hand picked fighters then Taylor's management must have done a terrible job.
Just curious who Taylor ducked? He fought two smaller guys in Ouma and Spinks, OK, but other than that he took on the best in his division. Those are the facts.
@dieallday Taylor has faught some of the best fighters in his era. If Hopkins, Wright, Pavlik, Froch, and Abraham are hand picked opponents, then his management were idiots.
Or maybe you just don't much about boxing. Learn the definition of a hand picked opponent, before making such a claim about Taylor's career.
@dieallday Taylor has faught some of the best fighters in his era. If Hopkins, Wright, Pavlik, Froch, and Abraham are hand picked opponents, then his management were idiots.
Or maybe you just don't much about boxing. Learn the definition of a hand picked opponent, before making such a claim about Taylor's career.
@dieallday Taylor has faught some of the best fighters in his era. If Hopkins, Wright, Pavlik, Froch, and Abraham are hand picked opponents, then his management were idiots.
Or maybe you just don't much about boxing. Learn the definition of a hand picked opponent, before making such a claim about Taylor's career.
@dieallday Taylor has faught some of the best fighters in his era. If Hopkins, Wright, Pavlik, Froch, and Abraham are hand picked opponents, then his management were idiots.
Or maybe you just don't much about boxing. Learn the definition of a hand picked opponent, before making such a claim about Taylor's career.
kelly pavlik has just the trainer for him...and his name is jack loew.teddy atlas was right when he said they have been together forever and jack was right when he said it was bullshit kelly needed a high profile trainer
ResistandDefy how old are you? Maybe that's what people believe as a teenager but no professional fighting athlete would base anyone's ability on their colour, I box amateur and there are no weak races...blacks win, lose, white win lose..race has nothing to do with anything...this world is so racist, i see this everyday I log on to youtube, anyone of you guys could be someone I work with, live close too, racist a**holes.
London, I'm from UK aswell and see what your saying but what you need to know about US sports is that it's totaly biased towards black athletes. The US sports media very rarely will call a white athlete an athlete cuz they do have this believe that whites are not good at sports. For instance, the Klitschko brothers get no respect in the US and they also thought Jeff Lacy would destroy Calzaghe.
We are lucky to live in the UK where the sports media does not see colour but see's talent no matter what colour. America is unfortunatly different and some what brainwashed. It's unfortunate but true.
Willbackbone you're racist...all youtubers see is black vs white, I don't give a sh*t about who wins in a fight, I support who I like...like the new contender, I'd love for the white kid from UK win, because he's from UK and I'm black....I don't watch fights on white vs black, I watch it on, who I like vs who I don't.
So typical of the Don King types trying to make out as White fighters have no shot,just like White European BB teams whipping All Black all American teams on a regular basis. Watch MMA , UFC as see this over & over again Whites guys whipping the shyte out of a Black man,its not a racial thing its a ass whipping thing
You bet...like racism is a one way street. If someone says "Pavlik looks unorthodox as a fighter", that's just a comment. If someone says, "Jermain Taylor is a big, physical specimen" somehow in this twisted world we live in that's racist. Read into that comment: "Black people can only be athletic...but not smart". Whatever, total crap. Taylor got the shit kicked out of him and he still can't admit it, he's got some excuse that he punched himself out in the 2nd.
when pavliks dad said that pavlik and his trainer kinda have a father-son realtionship he looked kinda sad as if to say " lm supposed to be his father and know what hes feeling" maybe pavliks dad wasnt really involved in pavliks life as much as his trainer is
pmount07 11 months ago
funny but taylor beat hopkins twice..pavlik beat taylor twice..one of which was a brutal KO and hopkins dominated pavlik and more over taylor and pavlik are outta the game and hopkins is getting ready for his may rematch vs pascal which happens to be on my bday=)
pmount07 11 months ago
what a bunch of assholes on the radio...HATERS...insulting their home town hero....lets see them get in the ring.
SquaddddUp 1 year ago 2
Taylor is overrated.
Slimkidd730 2 years ago
taylor shud fight williams if he can get the match-up, its the big p4p name he needs to get his career back on track, if he loses he'l know he cant beat the best and shud go
thegossoking 2 years ago
Hes in the super 6 tournament at 168
hommage101 2 years ago
Pavlik vs. Duddy 09
sjr219 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAA
jaycore 2 years ago
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if jermain fights hopkins a 3rd fight.. i think taylor would retire him and the pavlik fights will be in the past
preoxwhygen2007 3 years ago
One Thing about Jermain Taylor is that he dosent duck anybody.
NormenBatez 3 years ago
yeah
but he had a lot of fights hand picked
and he only fought good fighter caz he would have been striped of his title
dieallday 3 years ago
"Hand Picked" I dont know Bernard Hopkins,WInky Wright,Corey Spinks, Kasim Ouma,These guys were all Word Champions. He fought good because he would have lost his title thats the reason every champion should fight good. Jermain Has showed a lot of Heart even after he was knocked out and wanted a rematch right away. He isnt very talented skill wise but he makes up for it in HEART Jermain is how real boxers should be defending titles and not ducking tough fight.
NormenBatez 3 years ago
he had to fight wright caz he was a mandatory
hopkins was a mandatory because of a rematch clause
spinks and ouma is only 5'9 tall he had a reach and hight advantage but he looked trible against 2 blown up jr middle weights
also kelly was a mandatory for the belts he had no choice but to fight him or he would be striped
he has heart dont get me wrong but he had his opponents hand picked for him
he never fought felix or arthur two legit 160 pounder
insterd he chose to fight smaller safer
dieallday 3 years ago
Felix Retired after he lost to Winky. Arthur Abraham fought in Germany so Taylor really couldnt have fought him Abraham isnt even a big name fighter he just holds a title. Main Streem fans have no idea who he is. When you fight Bernard Hopkins twice then Winky Wright then Corey Spinks ( Who I thought won) you diserve to take an easy fight. Their is no such think as a "Hand Picked" Formor or Current World Champion. 4 world champions in a row who else did that.
NormenBatez 3 years ago
Arthur Abraham Just hold a title this guys wasnt even sigificant in the divison at that time. He won a vacent belt and has really been fighting soft compititon ever since. Taylor would have ripped him apart he and Felix Strum. They might put up good fights but Jermain has fought better oppoents.
NormenBatez 3 years ago
well why didnt he take the chalzage fight if he never ducked anyone
Chalzage prayed to get taylor but the fight never happened
man i am not saying taylor is bad but i am just saying most of his carrer he fought blown up welterweight and Jr middle weights
when he fought hopkins he looked really unimpressive
when he fought Winky i thought winky won the fight but the judges had it a draw
he fought winky and hopkins because he was obligated or he would be striped
Face it duva handpicks
dieallday 3 years ago
Lou DiBella is his promoter not Duva. How are Winky Wright and Bernard Hopkins hand picked. He didnt fight Calzaghe becasue They wanted him to come to Wales thats why Joe Calzaghe hasnt fought alot of guys for the longest he never wanted to leave the UK Jeff Lacy was the first fighter to actually go over there. You want to talk about hand picked fighters Joe Clazghe has fought his fare share of hand picked opponets.
Reguardless of who he fought and Why he still choose to fight them.
NormenBatez 3 years ago
Boxers vacet titles all the time to so they dont have to take certain fight. Instead of giving his titles back he choose to fight. I dont care how unimpressive he looked he fought them and you have to respect that.
I dont know what handpicked fighters your talking about. Spinks and Ouma are tough fights for anybody SKILL WINS FIGHTS NOT WEIGHT. The 154 and 160 arnt that far apart those guys were World Champions 6 pounds isnt why they lost those fight.
NormenBatez 3 years ago
ok man u have no clue about the physics of this sport
taylor a very big middleweight
he is 6foot 1
spinks and ouma are only 5foot 9 at most i have met them they like 5"8
they probaly weighted about 164 at the fight but while taylor weighter about 170 or higher
the frame of taylor is very big and he should have dominated them but guess what he had ahard time with guys that are smaller and weaker than him
they were champions in their respected dividons but they were too small to give him prob
dieallday 3 years ago
I see your point weight does have an effect in some cases. However people use that as an excuse to discredit fighters. How many times have we seen smaller guys move up and dominate bigger fighters. Manny Pacquio just did it a few weeks ago. Their size isnt Jermain Taylors fault people wernt saying that before the fight so dont try and lean on it after the fight. 2 inches and 6 pounds dosent wins fights. Look at Chirs Bryd he won the Heavyweight title from guys outweighing him by 20+ pounds.
NormenBatez 3 years ago
man u talking about heavyweights
that different at that weight the body can generate enough power to ko anyone
also byrd won only caz of his speed he was never the power puncher
i am not discrediting taylor i am just saying that he chose to fight some fight that were safer than other
he could have fought miranda but he dint
dont forget that pavlik was already a mandatory before the miranda fight but
Taylor chose to fight spinks
a southpaw with no power at all but just some good skill
dieallday 3 years ago
You just said it " Good Skill" thats all you need to win a fight. Taylor Beat him then he fought the winner of Pavlik vs Maranda. He did exactly what was asked of him. Nobody asked him to move up fight Clazaghe,nobody asked him to fight an unknown title holder in Arthur Abraham they asked him to fight Pavlik Or Maranda and he did.
NormenBatez 3 years ago
first hopkins fight hopkins shoulda got the decision and the second one could have gone either way. wright beat him flat out...and the ouma and spinks fights were ugly but he def won.
KHLB516 3 years ago
thank u for once a man with fucking knowledge
i ma tired of these people saying that he never ducked anyone
his whole career he had his oppnets hand picked for him
it took pavlik 2 eliminators to get a shot at taylor
dieallday 3 years ago
Hopkins Wright and Pavlik were the best fighters in Taylor's weight division. He fought them all. If those are hand picked fighters then Taylor's management must have done a terrible job.
KLC899 3 years ago 5
ok r u stupid
hopkins hadd the belts so he was the who needed to be beaten he got gift decision so he had to fight hopkins because of the rematch clause
winky was mandatory if he didnt fight winky he would get striped so come to me with facts before u bash me man
dieallday 3 years ago
Just curious who Taylor ducked? He fought two smaller guys in Ouma and Spinks, OK, but other than that he took on the best in his division. Those are the facts.
KLC899 3 years ago
@dieallday Taylor has faught some of the best fighters in his era. If Hopkins, Wright, Pavlik, Froch, and Abraham are hand picked opponents, then his management were idiots.
Or maybe you just don't much about boxing. Learn the definition of a hand picked opponent, before making such a claim about Taylor's career.
Transformers217 1 year ago
@dieallday Taylor has faught some of the best fighters in his era. If Hopkins, Wright, Pavlik, Froch, and Abraham are hand picked opponents, then his management were idiots.
Or maybe you just don't much about boxing. Learn the definition of a hand picked opponent, before making such a claim about Taylor's career.
Transformers217 1 year ago
@dieallday Taylor has faught some of the best fighters in his era. If Hopkins, Wright, Pavlik, Froch, and Abraham are hand picked opponents, then his management were idiots.
Or maybe you just don't much about boxing. Learn the definition of a hand picked opponent, before making such a claim about Taylor's career.
Transformers217 1 year ago
@Transformers217 @Transformers217
ok douche
Prior to hopkins fight
do you see any names on his record
he was feed good steady diet of welterweight and jr middle weights
once he got to the top he had to face good fighter because that was the only way you make money
when he was middle weight his reign was disappointing
all he did was fight blown up jr middle weights(also winky did beat him, and he was a Jr Middle weight)
i know wtf i am talking about
the question do you?
dieallday 1 year ago
@dieallday Taylor has faught some of the best fighters in his era. If Hopkins, Wright, Pavlik, Froch, and Abraham are hand picked opponents, then his management were idiots.
Or maybe you just don't much about boxing. Learn the definition of a hand picked opponent, before making such a claim about Taylor's career.
Transformers217 1 year ago
kelly pavlik has just the trainer for him...and his name is jack loew.teddy atlas was right when he said they have been together forever and jack was right when he said it was bullshit kelly needed a high profile trainer
SUFFOCATIONFAN 3 years ago
Emanuel Stewart is a fraud and a puppet, he has lost credibility in the game. Since he got with Taylor, Taylor has been worse off.
TEARINDON1 3 years ago
a good dog knows what to do when he's backed into a corner,he doesn't need instructions.
garzaeduardo 4 years ago
emanuel destroyed taylor, after beating a younger hopkin, taylor joined with emanuel and ever since he fought bery badly until he got ko.
It god for him to be back with his old trainer
titokenshamrock 4 years ago
If Taylor would listen to Stewart, he would still be champion.
grant21999 4 years ago
i thought pavlik was gonna win, but when i saw this i was doubtful. the i was surprised bcuz pavlik beat jermain at his best.
idontwantursandwich2 4 years ago
HAHA The radio dudes are funny
mattay06 4 years ago
another race debate on youtube. great.
esco42085 4 years ago
reminds me of white men cant jump
cheeseybred 4 years ago
are you talking about jermain because pavlik can jump higher than him.
madmaxsdp 4 years ago
ResistandDefy how old are you? Maybe that's what people believe as a teenager but no professional fighting athlete would base anyone's ability on their colour, I box amateur and there are no weak races...blacks win, lose, white win lose..race has nothing to do with anything...this world is so racist, i see this everyday I log on to youtube, anyone of you guys could be someone I work with, live close too, racist a**holes.
London2ATL 4 years ago
London, I'm from UK aswell and see what your saying but what you need to know about US sports is that it's totaly biased towards black athletes. The US sports media very rarely will call a white athlete an athlete cuz they do have this believe that whites are not good at sports. For instance, the Klitschko brothers get no respect in the US and they also thought Jeff Lacy would destroy Calzaghe.
Speeedo86 4 years ago
We are lucky to live in the UK where the sports media does not see colour but see's talent no matter what colour. America is unfortunatly different and some what brainwashed. It's unfortunate but true.
Speeedo86 4 years ago
Willbackbone you're racist...all youtubers see is black vs white, I don't give a sh*t about who wins in a fight, I support who I like...like the new contender, I'd love for the white kid from UK win, because he's from UK and I'm black....I don't watch fights on white vs black, I watch it on, who I like vs who I don't.
London2ATL 4 years ago
So typical of the Don King types trying to make out as White fighters have no shot,just like White European BB teams whipping All Black all American teams on a regular basis. Watch MMA , UFC as see this over & over again Whites guys whipping the shyte out of a Black man,its not a racial thing its a ass whipping thing
WillBackbone 4 years ago
You bet...like racism is a one way street. If someone says "Pavlik looks unorthodox as a fighter", that's just a comment. If someone says, "Jermain Taylor is a big, physical specimen" somehow in this twisted world we live in that's racist. Read into that comment: "Black people can only be athletic...but not smart". Whatever, total crap. Taylor got the shit kicked out of him and he still can't admit it, he's got some excuse that he punched himself out in the 2nd.
soprisrb 4 years ago
johnnychowder are you gonna post the taylor-pavlik fight after it airs on HBO...i live in a dorm and these cheap bastards don't provide us w/HBO
jpkimx 4 years ago