Chess Opening: Lasker's Trap

[teredaphoe]

pawn to e4 can be exactly the same - en passant

[GreenCastleBlock]

@teredaphoe No, it cannot.

[teredaphoe]

@GreenCastleBlock Oh yeah, cos its only valid for one time.

[william1010w]

@teredaphoe en passant can only be played the turn immediately following moving two spaces forward.

[mario10311]

At 7:13 with white to move, black looks good of course but what would be the response to white playing Qe4? just start trading pieces to continue black's advantage? or is there a more forcing move? I can't see it.

Thanks.

[OnlineChessLessons]

at 3:05 , the position seems very complicated if white simply let's black take the rook - ex. Bxb4 Qxh1 Nf3 Bg4 Nbd2 with Qe2 and Bg2 to follow to try to trap black's queen. Maybe black can get out of it by playing Bh3 instead of Bg4, but it still seems like white is going to get some solid compensation as black tries to get the queen out of the corner. Seems very unclear to me, How would you assess that variation?

[GreenCastleBlock]

@OnlineChessLessons That is an interesting idea, but White needs to unpin the Bishop to play Bg2, so it will take at least 3 moves to trap the Q. After 9...Nc6 White can't ignore the threat of ..Nxb4 since a following ..Nc2+ would force White's Q to leave f3. So 10.Bc3 Bg4 11.Nbd2 O-O-O 12.Kf2 (seems forced to guard f3) Nh6 and I can't see anything better than Bg2 trading queens, other moves seem to lose material.

I actually looked at 9.Bf8!? a la Marshall but 9...Qxh2! shuts that idea down.

[Jonathanheritage]

I would like to hear this other story for pawn e4 which you mention at the end of your video. Because of the en passant d4xe3 is it not just the same?

[GreenCastleBlock]

@Jonathanheritage Not at all! The immediate ..dxe3 is met by Qxd8+ and Bxe3 with a large White advantage. ...Bb4+ doesn't have much point, as after Bd2 a capture on e3 is not possible.

[zjdak11]

at 1:32, can't you just move the other knight to f3 so you don't disturb the king?

[GreenCastleBlock]

@zjdak11 it's pinned

[zjdak11]

@GreenCastleBlock how bout the other knight?

[GreenCastleBlock]

@zjdak11 Oh. Well Black just grabs the pawn on e3 then. Clearly with White's isolated e pawn and lack of activity Black should be OK.

[youshouldknowmee]

what if the white used their bishop to block the blacks bishp instead of their knight to d4 does that lasker trap still work?

sorry if im oviously wrong cus im newb at chess and i thought if i were in that situation i would of used a bishop to block it cus i can at the same time threaten to take their bishop ... or is that a bad idea?

[GreenCastleBlock]

@youshouldknowmee Watch the whole video plz. Coverage of Bd2 starts at 2:12.

[jovinjw]

At 7:05, black can just move Qf4#.

[GreenCastleBlock]

@jovinjw not mate, Kxg1

[ismfof100]

why not 1:34 White Qa4? seems to me, check winning the bishop

[GreenCastleBlock]

@ismfof100 ...Nc6 protects it

[1Shot1Hit]

thank you for the video i play alot of opponents that use the queens gambit so this def helped

[ducksaj]

Is that arasan??

[naborat7777]

optimistic :D from 7 minute forward it is not opening

[naborat7777]

optimistic :D

[jull23]

at 5:25 what if white plays Qxd8+ then black has no choice to eat the queen, then white can just play Rxg1 and white has advantage

[GreenCastleBlock]

@jull23 Had you watched the video for 10 more seconds your question would have been answered.

[2lolol3]

oh :( well thanks for the vid really helped

[2lolol3]

Hey what if White moves to e4 at the start instead?

[GreenCastleBlock]

@2lolol3 Then nothing in this video will happen.

[Nocturne9999]

Great video. I've been trying this a lot lately. Unfortunately most of my opponents do not play e3. Knight to f3 is usually played first and after this i feel that i have lost the game. Granted im a crappy sub-1500 player but i feel like i am missing some important tactics after white plays kf3. Any ideas?

[GreenCastleBlock]

@Nocturne9999 You shouldn't play the Albin just hoping to get this trap - 4.Nf3 is the most logical move and by far the most common. You will have to know something about these kinds of positions if you want to succeed - it is risky for Black. If you're under 1500 probably you should be playing more mainstream openings for now.

[tomthecool]

Cool, I've never actually seen any situation before where you'd choose to promote a pawn to anything but a queen!

By the way, do you have any idea why "the option to promote a pawn to a rook/bishop" is even in the rules?? I don't see why anyone would EVER do this!!

My best guess would be that he rules originally stated you can only replace the pawn with one of your pieces that had already been captured, but I can't find any information about the origin of the rule anywhere :S

[GreenCastleBlock]

@tomthecool You might want to look at video gacI91Jufe8 for other underpromotion examples.

[anglichaninblin]

on 3:12 , what if white blocks f3 with knight instead of queen ?

[GreenCastleBlock]

@anglichaninblin Qxe3+

[Ziniho0608]

lasker would not approve

[2Nachtisch]

i dont like that musik.

[clapandtouch]

Nice uhh music?

[TexasRobert]

What about a3 instead of e3? Equality?

[vxt1024]

promoting to knight. castling to check. this is very cool!

[welshnick300365]

after Qe4 during the line where white puts his bishop on e2 to block Bb4+ what do you play if white goes N(g1)-f3

[duskwalker2]

I ran the 5 possible moves for White after 4...Bb4+ through the analyzer on Babaschess to a depth of 12 moves ahead, with the following results:

5. Bd2, White advantage 0.40 points

5. Ke2!?, White advantage 0.05 points

5. Nd2?!, Black advantage 0.17 points

5. Nc3?, Black advantage 3.72 points

5. Qd2??, Black advantage 5.69 points

1 pawn = 1 point, roughly speaking.

[GreenCastleBlock]

@duskwalker2 I don't agree that White can get any advantage against 4...Bb4+. All the lines are miserable for the first player.

[duskwalker2]

@GreenCastleBlock Here is the best I could do with it: 5. Bd2 dxe3 6. fxe3 Qh4+ 7. g3 Qe4 8. Qf3 Bxd2+ 9. Nxd2 Qc2 10. Bh3 Nc6 11. Bxc8 Rxc8 12. Qg4 Nge7 13. Qxg7 Rg8 14. Qf6 Rg6 15. Qh8+ Kd7 16. Qxh7 Qxb2 17. Rd1 Nxe5 18. Qh5 f5 19. Ndf3+ Rd6 20. Nxe5+ Qxe5 21. Qe2 Rxd1+ 22. Qxd1+ Ke8 23. Qd4 Qa5+ 24. Qd2 Qa3 25. Kf2 Rd8 26. Qc2 Rd3 27. Qe2 Ng8 28. e4 f4 29. Qh5+ Kd8 30. Qg5+ Ne7 31. Qxf4 Rd1 32. Qf8+ Kd7 33. Qf3 Qxa2+ 34. Ne2 Rxh1 35. Qxh1 Qxc4 36. h4 Qc5+ 37. Kf3 Qa3+ 38. Qg4 a5 39. Nf4 Nc6

[duskwalker2]

@GreenCastleBlock 40. h5 Ne5+ 41. Kh3 Qa4 42. h6 Ke8 43. Qb1 Qd7+ 44. Kg2 Qd2+ 45. Kh1 Qc3 46. Qd1 Qc6 47. Qh5+ Nf7 48. h7 Qxe4+ 49. Ng2 Ke7 50. Qxf7 Kxf7 51. h8=Q a4 52. Qh5+ Ke7 53. Kh2 c6 54. Qg5+ Kd7 55. Qg7+ Kc8 56. Qf8+ Kc7 57. Qf7+ Kb6 58. Qa2 c5 59. Nf4 Kc6 60. Qg8 c4 61. Qc8+ Kb5 62. Qd7+ Kb4 63. Qd2+ Kb3 64. Ne2 a3 65. Nd4+ Ka4 66. Qd1+ Kb4 67. Nc2+ Kb3 68. Nd4+ Kb4 69. Nc2+ Kb3 70. Nd4+ Kb4 71. Nc2+ 1/2-1/2

[suprhavkdogi]

what if the pawn doesn't go to e3 but jumps up two?

[swordstick]

Great chess video, I love those rare tricky situations in chess where underpromotion is the key to success! I guess I will study Albin's countergambit soon :)

[mobbinthrudabay]

1:33 i like the way you pointed out knight is pinned

[Zelrio28]

After Qe4 at 1:38 just let white play Qa4+

[WizlBs]

Ok. And after black plays Nc6 what then? There is a still treat on white rook. One of the moves to continue would be taking bishop, but than black can take your rook and kings side is crushed

[Zelrio28]

@WizlBs I know that if White takes the bishop, black recaptures, and white takes the queen with his knight, that black can fork the king and rook. However, you can play a3, force the bishop-knight exchange, but lose a pawn

[sutomaraj]

what if in the bishop blocks after the queen check what if the knight blocks on f3

[ftwsibbaftw]

Nice video the same day I saw it I got to use it in my bullet game. The game went like this 1. D4 D5 2. C4 E5 3.DXE5 D4 4. NF3 NC6 5. E3 BB4+ 6. BD2 DXE3 7. BXB4 EXF2+ KXF2? QXD1 and he resigned.

[Achilles94627]

As you say, it does depend on White playing e3. He may just as easily play f6. What do you do then!?

[GreenCastleBlock]

You're correct in that this trap only applies to 4.e3?

4.Nf3 is the main line of the Albin Counter Gambit. 4.e4 is another possible move. Against either of these I would play ...Nc6 and just develop my pieces, using the pawn on d4 to constrict White's development... in theory. I have a couple other videos on this channel of me using this gambit, although I'm not sure of its overall soundness.

[Achilles94627]

Sorry, I don't know why I said f6. I meant to say 4. Nf3.

[rulo0801]

i know i just confuse them sometimes, or perhaps it was very late when i wrote the comment, dont know

[stockshunter]

Cheers mate.

[rulo0801]

at 6:53 Kf6 check wins the queen

[haneyw]

no, the pawn can take it if hte rook tries to check, that also allows whites rook to not be pinned and get out of the corner. bad move.

[maxamix1]

nop, white pawn take (g7xNf6)

[L1k3wh4]

Great video. It also looks very useful because white's e3 move would look natural to someone who isn't familiar with this opening because of similarity to Falkbeer's countergambit, where white's fourth move can be d3. Thanks:)

[JoeytheGenius]

Great clear, concise commentary. Thanks for posting this clever gambit!

[15433333]

You forgot to take the free white queen by black queen on 6: 57. BIG MISTAKE!!!

[GreenCastleBlock]

Bishop on c3 is protecting it.  Might want to double check the board before making a comment with a criticism in all caps.

[archmagi14794]

Ummm, are you watching the same game as the rest of us....

[PegasoltaEclair]

The whole video was about that e4 is better than e3 XD Congrats.

[garrywarney]

"I had to use WinBoard for this lecture because PGNMentor does not allow me to promote my pawn to a knight. :-(" What's wrong with winboard?

[GreenCastleBlock]

The :-( is for PGNMentor not allowing underpromotions. Nothing is wrong with WinBoard. Of course, now all my vids are made with ChessBase9 which is even better (though obviously not free)

[ffrraannkkqq]

at 1.38 why doesnt horse take queen?

[GreenCastleBlock]

the knight is pinned by the bishop

[SNoCappidona]

okay i got a question... what if after

3. ...d4

4. Nf3

then what would black's best move be?

or after

3. ...d4

4. a3 is played

to me, if those mvoes are played, then this opening isn;'t really all that good.

Im just a beginner but please help me with this.

[GreenCastleBlock]

4.Nf3 Nc6 is the main line against the Albin.

4.a3 will probably transpose to 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.a3.

This video is specifically about the Lasker's Trap variation and not a video on the Albin Counter Gambit. The ACG is risky but still very much in play at top levels; GMs Nakamura and Morozevich have used it. At lower levels it seems even more viable.

Try to keep an open mind. It is easy to have an opinion that an opening's bad, but can you prove it consistently against other humans?

[SNoCappidona]

thank you.

[XxMonkeyClawxX]

i saw this like a year ago and was just going over it on my board and was confused that there was no definite piece gain after Nd2 and after like an hour decided to look it up again and turned out their were no pieces down the line anywhere and i was dissapointed lol

[GreenCastleBlock]

If you're referring to the position at move 1:20 , then correct, Nd2 is a safe move materially although it leaves White shattered in the center with lots of open lines for Black's pieces, sorry to disappoint though :-|

[Nocturne9999]

This has to be one of the coolest traps ever. Promoting a pawn to a knight :D LOL

[geekorthodox9]

it seems that the moral of the story is that white should not capture to e5 before development, if ever.

[GreenCastleBlock]

No actually 3.dxe5 is the only move to trouble Black in that position. After 3...d4 4.Nf3 White should have the advantage with correct play. 4.e3 is the real error.

[boazmyhill]

Albin, not Albine

[Davatt7]

nice good opening

[BloopersAndSports]

wow this is too complicated.

this is for black right?

[sim549]

why wouldn't you take queen at 1:35 with white night? doesn't make sense

[GreenCastleBlock]

pinned

[YourBetterOffAsian]

at 1:41, how come white cant block with the other knight?

[BenAwolnow]

Sorry but I think your a bit confused.

The black queen is checking the black king. Both the black knights cannot move into a square which blocks the queens attacking path.

The Black king has 2 moves to get out of check. Like the auther explained, you can either push a pawn up (which he explains is a bad idea) and you can move your king up one space (Once again, like the auther has shown).

Watch the video over again or at least 1:41

[ucanplay2]

On the last varaiation after 0-0-0ch White need not go to e3 as suggested but Bd3 blocks the check.

[subatom101]

very good ;)

[pinkyfrogs23]

This video is impressive?

[kingofdice66]

poitnt being ,do not fall in to that trap

[yoo711]

great video! thanks for putting in the time to share

[ShaayarAajnabee]

at 6:54 when white moves his queen from d1 to e1....black would not castle...black has to save his queen ....it's unprotected.... i think that's a mistake in this video

[GreenCastleBlock]

No mistake. Black gives check when he castles, with the rook that was just moved.

[emomakia]

2:02 white knight can take queen f3 - h4 :0

[GreenCastleBlock]

It's pinned

[daelsterdam]

what if white moves knight to f4 on move 4 what would be a good response to that?

[daelsterdam]

i meant knight to f3

[alakasamsmart]

Then you play Nc6, to develop the knight and protects the pawn on d4. That's pretty much how the mainline goes.

[hong87k]

Your video is clearly thought out and well explained. Usually at some point, I will ask "why not do this instead of this". Then next, you went right to the point explaining what I had in mind. Keep up the good work! Your videos rox

[bakshirohini]

when black plays d4! then can trap still work if you play Nf3

[nickdadar]

That was great! keep on making good vids.

[mrRetteketet]

i actualy think white gets in a much better position if it takes the pawn instead of the bisshop. ok, black regains it's pawn but at that point only the queen will be develloped

[jamesjddong]

Good clear explanation.Great work!

[ruigraf]

Very nice video.

Many Thankz

[nibiruwillcome]

Queen e4 when defended with knight. Knight can take queen at 1:33.

[GreenCastleBlock]

Nope. It's pinned.

[nibiruwillcome]

Oh, yes, it's pinned Don't know why i didn't notice that. :)

[dxggfggfs]

if white move to e4, wont black take it with en passant?

[GreenCastleBlock]

4.e4 dxe3? 5.Qxd8+ Kxd8 6.Bxe3 trades queens, loses castling privileges, and helps White develop one of his pieces. Definitely not the way to follow up when you're gambiting a pawn.

Black would play 4.e4 Nc6 instead, developing and overprotecting the pawn on d4, which is now a passed pawn.

[nightshade097]

Why Didn't the black eat the white pawn in(0:14-15)????

[259]

dxc4 would go into the Queen's Gambit Accepted lines, which means that this trap won't be applicable. Most people I know wouldn't take the pawn and just simply go into the classic Queen's Gambit Declined line instead.

[ooaaveehoo]

It's possible, but gives white a bit better game, because black can't keep the pawn without getting in trouble.

[superstition80]

thanks, ill try it. and i subscribed to you

[rich187113]

Nice.

[Kestis05]

This is albin's gambit, not lasker !!!

[GreenCastleBlock]

It's the Albin Counter Gambit (1.d4 d5 2.c4 e5), this particular trap is known as Lasker's Trap.

[Taraborn]

Great video, thanks.

[BlackYoshi2]

Amazing!

[Eejhunator]

ok thanks for the prompt reply

[cruor15]

doesn't work:

situation at 3:35...(lets say white blocks with knight)white queen checks black, black defends with knight,white takes pawn at e3=the trap is ruined

[GreenCastleBlock]

Kind of authoritative, aren't we? Why not just ask a question?

I think you mean 5..dxe3 6.Qa4+ Nc6 7.fxe3 (only way White can take e3).

I did not show this variation; it's similiar to others. Critical response as usual is 7..Qh4+. Now 8.g3 Qe4 loses a rook so White should move the King. Black can then play ..Bg4+ and possibly follow up with ..O-O-O unpinning the Nc6 with pressure on the d file. Also White has a bad pawn structure. Keep in mind Black only had to invest 1 pawn to get this!

[Eejhunator]

what happens if the knight on king side moves to attack the pawn that has been pushed forward? The Knight is able to block off the black queen's check, it is quite restrictive.

[GreenCastleBlock]

Then no trap.

3.Nf3 - a good move - leads to the mainline Albin Counter Gambit.

[teezle123]

I've encountered 3.cxd5 as opposed to 3.dxe5 in my analysis this leaves black with out either of the center pawns for little compensation making this counter gambit a little risky.

[GreenCastleBlock]

The ACG is risky, but only because of the main lines where White accepts the pawn and plays Nf3. 3.cxd5 Qxd5 is harmless as Black gets active pretty quickly. 4.dxe5, now Black can just play 4...Qxe5 5.Nf3 Bb4+ which is equal, or sacrifice a pawn for activity with 4...Qxd1+ 5.Kxd1 Nc6.

The extra center pawn for White is not really a valid concern as Black has the open lines he needs to develop all his pieces. On the other hand Black has a 3 v 2 Queenside majority.

[greentrigger]

Why do the first two pawns (whites first two pawns and blacks first two pawns) both move two spaces? You can only so it once.

[F2L4Life]

In chess, pawns can move TWO spaces on their first move.

[hutch976]

This guy kinda sounds like Principle Anderson from Billy Madison

[wellusee]

Well done .Plenty to take in there.

[FoodCubes]

These are really good tutorials. I have never had a chess coach so these are very helpful. Thanks for sharing these.

[XDarkPriest]

at 6:53 black should play Ng1-f3+ forking the king and queen instead of castling free queen the bishop on c3 could recapture but it would be better than losing a rook.

[GreenCastleBlock]

gxf3

[sonushetty1]

i am having a quesation after d4 white can do nf3

[LuisDetlefsen]

great video

[oddiiii]

how can u have 3 knights??? HOW???

[GreenCastleBlock]

Many people think you can only take a piece of yours that has been captured already, but no, that is not the case, you can take any of these: QRBN

[clevelandbarons97]

I have a question Mr. Pullin,

In both instances after the bishop or knight move to d2 to block the bishop check and then black captures the pawn and white captures, after black moves his queen to h4 creating a check on the white king, if white plays g3 and black plays Qe4 (forking the rook) can't white just play Nf3 or Qf3, blocking the black queens access to the white rook and screwing up the whole trap?

[GreenCastleBlock]

It doesn't screw up the trap. The point is to win a pawn back, not to win the rook.

[macho212]

thanks

[macho212]

so a) if white moves to E4, can black still stage the trap?

b) Also, is it possible if white plays NF3 after black's pawn to d4?

thanks

[GreenCastleBlock]

No. It only occurs after the specific move order 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e5 3.dxe5 d4 4.e3

[hwud1]

white pawn to e3 or to e4 is the same thing !.. the black pawn can capture it anyway!?

[GreenCastleBlock]

No, it's not. 4.e3 can be met with 4...Bb4+ 5.Bd2 dxe3, whereas on 4.e4 Bb4+ 5.Bd2, dxe3 is not possible. In order to take en passant you must do it immediately following the pawn move, so you can't insert the critical bishop check. Tricky stuff!

[clevelandbarons97]

near the end of this video, 7:20, while the white queen is being forked on e1 by the rook on d1, why doesn't the queen move to e4? if it does, where does black move?

[njkarsz]

14.Qe4 Nh3! 15.Kg3 Bg5+ (15.gxh3 Qh4+ 16.Kg1 Qh3 17.Qg2...White is in all sorts of trouble now, black only needs to bring a knight down the board to attack the white queen and black has a mate. If 17. ...Nh6 18.Qxh3 Bxh3 white must sack rook to survive with 19. Nd2 Rxa1 leaving black with leading material in end game.)

[clevelandbarons97]

Bg5 is not a possible move for either side?

[njkarsz]

woops meant 15. Kg3 Qh4+

[srn347]

e4 can still be taken en passent, but must be taken right away or else the opportunity disappears. The trap will still have potential, but there could be ways out of it.

[eisaatappaa]

wow very nice vid thanks man

[Sitamop]

At 5:16, the knight out is pointless because if bishop takes knight and checks, the king can't take because the black queen will take the white wueen. However, the way you made a variation with a promotion to a knight was very interesting. Very nice video!

[GreenCastleBlock]

g pawn can take

[alakasamsmart]

Lol, I just used this trap against some dude on Instantchess and I took his queen for the pawn check that forks the king and knight :P

[GhostMonke]

lol nevermind rook checks kings ^^

[GhostMonke]

i must be missing something..... why doesnt black move queen at 6:54?????

[AdlanKuru]

woah...we can have 2 queens?

[GreenCastleBlock]

Yeah a pawn that reaches the 8th rank can be promoted to anything but a King. You could have 9 Queens in a game but it is very unlikely.

[Theseanmw]

Lol.

I remember when i first started to play chess, I wasn't sure of the rules and I was playing against the computer. I recall thinking "why the hell does he keep moving his pawn for no reason?" Then it turned into a queen I was pretty ticked off. lol.

[alakasamsmart]

Hey GreenCastle, what if white move the king to E2 after bishop check?

[GreenCastleBlock]

Good question. I don't think you'd see Ke2 over the board very often because of its ugliness, but it does appear to meet the needs of the position.

Here's an interesting line:

1.d4 d5 2.c4 e5 3.dxe5 d4 4.e3 Bb4+ 5.Ke2 Nc6 6.a3 d3+!? (Not necessary, ..Be7 looks ok) 7.Qxd3 Qxd3+ 8.Kxd3 Nxe5+ 9.Ke2 Bd6 10.Nd2 Be6. Does Black have enough play for the pawn? I'm not sure.

[alakasamsmart]

Can we still play the lasker's trap even if White doesn't move his e2 pawn? Btw, I used the Albin Countergambit today against someone but I lost.

[duskwalker2]

No. The Black pawn has no way of getting into the proper position, even if White plays e4. White must play the careless move e3? to make this happen.

[MAfr3ak]

after d4, why not a3 and then u can play e3?

[GreenCastleBlock]

1.d4 d5 2.c4 e5 3.dxe5 d4 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.a3 is one of the more common systems against the Albin. I personally like 5...a5 for Black, intending 6.e3 Bc5 7.exd4 Bxd4.

[fordy7845]

does this work on the kings gambit

[GreenCastleBlock]

No, the Falkbeer 1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5 has a much, much different character than the Albin due to the King and Queen being on different sides of the board.

[duskwalker2]

What if White plays 3.cxd5 instead of 3.dxe5 ?

[GreenCastleBlock]

I've never faced this move. I think Black gets good compensation for a pawn after 3...Qxd5 4.dxe5 (4.Nc3 Bb4) Qxd1+ 5.Kxd1 Nc6.

[duskwalker2]

Why 4...Qxd1+ ? I would play 4...Qxe5.

[duskwalker2]

Why could White not respond to the bishop check with Ke2 instead of Nd2 or Bd2?

[GreenCastleBlock]

hmm... you like your unforced king moves don't you ;-)

Well, it doesn't lose material (to the naked eye), but it blocks the development of White's Q and B, and gives Black a great target in the center. For his pawn Black has harmonious piece development and White does not, but Black will have to demonstrate that he can open the position. Most strong players are unwilling to make this type of concession in the opening to hold onto a pawn.

[yousini]

awesome vid 6/5

[duskwalker2]

If (1.d4 d5 2.c4) then how good would (2. ...c5) be for black? How good is such a square standoff in general?

[BobfromSydney]

That's called the symmetrical defense and is generally thought of as bad and is not used in master play.

After 3.cxd5 Black has no good choices and stands to lose some time or be down a pawn.

[masterJRD123]

I meant c4