Excluding the two comments below me, and the top rated comments, the rest of these comments are just nonsensical dribble. I come here to listen to astounding music and read intellectual comments, not read arguments with men flaming each other as if the sun won't rise the next morrow. Quite honestly, it's utterly vulgar and embarrassing.
it is your attitude @edraith (RAITH .. RAITH?) that is causing the hell on earth that we are coming into now. Jews *are* admirable for their intellect and accomplishments; as are many races on this earth (you are actually not a race, but that is a seperate discussion). I Iove many Jewish brothers and sisters. STOP WITH YOUR SUPERIORITY CRAP. IT IS CRAP AND IS LEADING TO THE 3RD WORLD WAR.
It take a regiment of stentorian voices, an over 100 piece orchestra, the magic of modern stagecraft, and a special set of acoustics for Richard Wagner to approach the power and authority that J. S. Bach can command with one single violin, and the notes of music he composed on the page.
Mendelssohn-Bartholdy's War March of the Priests is from his oratoria "Athelia." Mendelssohn may have been from Germany, but he was a god in Great Britain. Besides, he was one of the two best choral composers of the 19th century; Brahms being the other. So its no wonder that Mendelssohn tried his hand at English oratorio, resulting in "St. Paul" and best of all "Elijah." The War March is the one piece from Athalia that is still heard. Just ask Dr. Phibes.
Mendelssohn's grandfather was the Jewish philosopher Moses Mendelssohn. Mendelssohn grew up next door to a Christian church, came to love the hymns being sung, and converted to Christianity. This was in the early 19th Century. More than 100 years later, the monster Adolph Hitler came along, declared the antisemitic Richard Wagner to be THE German composer. The rest is just arguing about nothing. Both Mendelssohn and Wagner were great composers and their music will live forever.
@AndersonDE7 Better check those facts. My understanding was that Felix's father, Abraham, converted the entire family Lutheran before Felix was in his teens. Felix will be remembered forever as the composer of Hark The Herald Angels Sing, that great Christmas Carol.
@1brewski2 I agree with your comments, but am not sure they conflict with my own. I didn't say that Felix was the only member of his family to convert to Christianity or that he didn't write some sublime hymns, only that he grew up next door to a church and came to love its music.
@AndersonDE7 To expand a little, none of Abraham's children were given a Jewish education, all were converted at the same time as children along with the parents . Felix did not make a decision because he loved Christian music. Although he did, I'm sure. Anyway, didn't they live on an estate? Dad was a wealthy banker.
@1brewski2 Your version sounds better, as there could be no question then that Felix converted to Christianity for "political" advantage (whatever his parents' motives may have been). I always wondered about that. Thanks for the information.
@AndersonDE7 Hard to tell about the motives. Can't read minds. Felix was a genuine Christian, no kidding there. Listen to that monumental treatment of "A Mighty Fortress" in the Reformation Symphony (which was rejected anyway, probably because of his Jewish background) or the chorus of Jews calling for the stoning of Jesus in the Oratorio" St. Paul" and tell me otherwise.
mendelssohn is great but lets get serious. the tannhauser overture alone puts his whole career to rest in my humble opinion. wagner was on another planet; as a composer and as a person, the latter being uh not a good planet.
The Holocaust was one of the most terrible crimes in human history. Very few people deny that. But Wagner, as has been noted already, had been dead for over 50 years at that time. To infer that because HItler was an ardent Wagner fan and that Wagner would have endorsed the Holocaust is taking a large leap of faith. Back to Mendelssohn - he was, to the best of my knowledge, a devout Lutheran. I am surprised he wrote a song associating priests with war.
@PhysicalsimForever It's tough for the Israelis though. They're kind've stuck between a rock (ba dum chhh) and a hard place. They've gotta be "tough guys" else they'll be overrun.
@PhysicalsimForever You are a jerk. Would you like to be surrounded by people who hate you and send rockets down your streets everyday/night, no I think not! Those so-called Arab nations hate Israel and want Israel wiped off the map.
Yes it's the Israelis who are hostile, being attacked time and time again by several of their significantly larger arab neighbours -__-
I support the ban on Wagner's music, not because he was anti-semite but because he wrote crappy music lol. Bach is also often accused of being anti semitic but in contrast he wrote great music. We should ban Wagner in every country lol
lol just joking. Seriously I don't see the "hypocracy" considering all the bans in arab countries.
I am not a Hitler supporter, I just think it is highly ironic that the people who suffered as a result of Nazism should go and take on some of the characteristics of the people they despised soon afterwards. As a result of this, even now music is being hampered by politics, and that is what I object to. People shouldn't be deprived of the chance to see live performances great music because of a few selfish bigots.
@edraith shame on you talking like this after a nation clearly proved that they are peaceful human beings as well as they have no power other than high intellect..did you know that there are only 15 million jews world wide.?..and you all are afraid of them...it doesnt make any sense to me, every nation has its own genetic characteristics..you cant change the blood..thats about it..you want to change the world? look in the mirror
@PhysicalsimForever Let's be just a little bit fair right now. Don't you think that the Arab nations surrounding the Jewish State just have a teeny weeny bit of hostility to Jews now, especially since Jews lived as second class citizens in the Arab and Ottoman world for over 1,000 year as Dhimini - having to pay special tax and being denied rights that Muslims had? What about referring to Jews as pigs and apes in the Koran? At least admit the hostility is two sided!
I agree; it's definately by Mendelssohn- didn't think so at first, but if you're familiar with more of his works, as I am, you can definately tell they are by the same composer.
hmm whenever some ppl bring up Wagner -Felix Mendelssohn link ,there is always Hitler around and voila you just cant avoid freacking antisemitism theme.
Can you just fuckin enjoy the music,composers,or what ever you find in it.
So some ppl in history didnt not like jews ,no meter art of genre..Why d fuck that have to do anything with me when i listen ,or read ,or observe their art?
So ,some arab or nonejew kidd is free to hate Shimon Adaf,Yair Lapid,David Lavon due the israeli cleansing?
Why does everybody have to soil music with discussions about who banned this and who is a pile of crap and who is...
Music like this, like Wagner's, will NEVER be guilty of anything. Its words aren't meant to be understood or taken to offense, only married to sound... the proof is in so many foreign listeners. Human beings can only strive to imagine what real music truly describes... music that must become a world for the blind.
@jeffamarie In general terms You are right, music as itself is innocent by definition. But the music is composed by real people. Those people have their own opinions resentments. I advise You to read a biography of Meyerbeer in wikipedia, You will find there several informations of Wagner`s antisemitic publications.
music is innocent, but sometimes its creators are not....
The whole Wagner business is ridiculous, as well. I mean, the man didn't whisper advice in Hitler's ear. He just composed (great) music and had certain political beliefs which many other people at the time shared. So what's the big deal?
And what are you doing anyway discussing him under a Mendelssohn piece...
@johannsebastienbach Ride of the Valkyries atrocious? Hardly. Harsh, yes. Intimidating, yes. But one of the most effective, exciting and memorable melodies of all time. Genius! Siegfried Idyll atrocious? Only if you consider sublime beauty atrocious. Dawn and Siegfried's Rhine Journey atrocious? Probably the most majestic music ever composed! Magic Fire? Sublime beauty. Immolation? Terribly powerful, followed by peaceful acceptance. Wagner was a master of melody.
well, ole Victoria may have listened, but did she hear ? and Richard was immature...so what ? don't make a mountain of a mole hill...fact is, Wagner wrote great music...ergo, his 'antisemitism' could not possibly have been more than skindeep. Have you seen Hitler's 'artworks' ? They're crap. That's what a real bigot does. No great artist is capable of truly anti-human feeling...it's just not possible...
after mendelssohn visited scotland and to a cave of all places called fingals cave he wrote an overture to it called the hebrides overture and im pretty sure queen victoria visited the same cave to listen to the overture in it i think the cave is on the island of staffa if memory serves me right
There is no doubt in my mind that Mendelssohn was far more 'German', or, let us say, continental European (as distinct from British) than Wagner. Mendelssohn was absolutely ahead of his time while Wagner was relatively degenerate. This is no fault of ole Richard's...he was simply born too late. It is not a Christian versus Jewish question, but, as usual in life, a question of timing. May all of you have good timing...
I like Mendelssohn. And Wagner. I'm nazi or "this good man"?
Wagner was great composer, and nazis knew that. Furthermore, Wagner's music is very... strong. Because of this power Wagner was favourite composer of nazis.
mendelsson came to scotland on holiday visited fingals cave was so inspired tha t he wrote the hebridean overture with fingals cave and scotland in mind
I admire some of Wagner's music--especially his pre-Ring works. The problem I have with him is that he considered himself a philosopher first and a composer second and that the two were inextricably linked in his mind. This gives credence to claims of it affecting his music.
Other composers were antisemetic but none before went out of their way to cause such misery for the Jewish people. He and his disciples greatly discredited Mendelssohn--a fall from which he has not yet fully recovered.
cmon guys !!! mendelssohn and wagner are both famous and good composers...HITLER is the IDIOT here!! lets rejoice tat we have 2 famous composers who gave the world good music!!
Wagner attacked Mendelssohn after he had died. That's pretty low if you ask me. Wagner was a great composer, but he had a repulsive, little personality.
@drummerponsi no, his music doesn't scream that, but the pamphlets he published in the 1930s certainly did. You probably think John Wayne Gacy's clown paintings belong in the Louvre.
Good sir, I have never even seen one of those paintings, but I have the vague feeling that that wouldn't be my opinion.
I'm more into classical art, as a listener and practitioner. In fact I teach classical percussion and am working on several requested compositions, one of them a fantasy on the Bolero for a ballet that will be played next spring. I hope this tiny bit of personal information plays in my defence.
One more thing: I like Wagner's music, not his ideas.
Saint Germain has said about this music, "This is a march of peace and of freedom, of enlightenment and love, of wisdom and the God-determination to fulfill the fiery coil of Aquarius."
Yes! Borders and other book stores carry his teachings, through his messengers Mark and Elizabeth Clare Prophet; Summit University Press. He is the ascended hierarch of the current Age of Aquarius, as Jesus was the hierarch of the Age of Pisces.
This piece instantly became a sentimental piece for me. We marched the recessional to this music at my graduation. When I hear this, I think of all my teachers that we passed before while we marched from the ceremony.
You Bugs Bunny fans out there will recognize this theme played when Bugs drops a chewed carrot into the suit of armor a knight standing next to him is wearing....the knight challenges Bugs to a duel and hilarity ensues. You remember, don't you? Of course you do. Fabulous cartoon...nice marriage of classical music with animation.
OMG this is the perfect piece of music. I played it through high school till I graduated and almost balled out crying when it was time for me to march to it myself. Thank you for posting this.
Ok, wagner didn't like jews and this is pathetic. He was antisemit and it's really deplorable. However, he was NOT nazi. (and, for example, he refused to sign Förster's petition against the "invasion of the jews"). Wagner was dead before Hiltler was born. It's not wagner's fault if hitler like his music -__-
@peaceloveandmusic8 How is this related to Mendelssohn By the way? Just asking because I have no idea between the comparison of this and Hitler (hope this isnt annoying you)
actually it's not minor. it's in f major. the beginning is just a diminished and broken e chord that modulates to F major. The third chord in the F major part is an e flat, a, c chord hat gives this piece a feeling of uncertainness in war. that is what makes it sound so much like a minor key and also gives it its melancholy sort of melody. so it's ok to assume that this is in a minor key, but in actuality it is in a major key. hope this more than answered your question.
If Wagner had stuck to writing for the orchestra he could have won the enduring fame of John Philip Sousa. His writing for solo voice — after Der Fliegende Holländer — is a complete waste of time.
Back in the Fifties the Music Professor who ran the school music program and Chapel choir used to play this piece on the organ. It sounded GREAT! He received so many repeat requests yhat he got tired of playing it..
I hate Wagner for his views on Jews, but he excelled at his musical genre. Lohengrin is one of my personal favorites actually.
Mendelssohn was just more expansive in his repertoire. Simply put, he could do a lot more; everything from grandiose operatic-like scores like this one (which does sound much like Wagner) to infinitely technical violin and piano concertos.
The best thing to do is appreciate both artist for what they accomplished, and as much as it irks me sometimes, I have to appreciate the musical magnitude of Wagner's works.
I like Mendelssohn more but I think Wagner was a more genious man than Mendelssohn. His music broke with every tradition and stil has an impact to date on how we look at written music. Wagner schocked the world and his influence reached artists and politicians all over the world. He was also very close to the King of Beieren , Lodewijk II...
Wagner's influence was so big that at a point it was called the "Wagner Culture".
@MetrosexualBiker don't exaggerate. I'm Jewish and I get that it is idiotic to ban Mendelssohn, and Wagner was antisemitist and all, but he was way better than Mendelssohn...
really nice ? Liszt admired Wagner for his genious revolutionary thoughts on music. And in most cases Wagner should be considered a "more genious composer" than Mendelssohn. Wagner was born with the same romantic influences as Mendelssohn, yet he completely threw his former style overboard and developed his own "movement of music". I do agree on your part that Mendelssohn is the favourite in terms of listening. Wagner's music is very demanding to listen to compared to Mendelssohn's
@MetrosexualBiker Wagner is going to rise out of his grave and strangle you. You know how much shit he wrote about mendelson. A lot of his anti semitism came from the fact he felt outshined by mendelson
Heh, that's funny you'd refer to Wagner as a "hack." John Williams gets accused a lot for hacking Wagner, so if Wagner himself is a hack, what does that make Williams? :)
Is that true? What are your sources? If M. was jewish, he probably was banned. They used to say "Jews have stolen european music peaces". So, is that true that Mendelssohn wasn't banned?
Where do you get this generalization that if Mendessohn was Jewish he "probably was banned" in the Third Reich? Certainly there was a strong bias in the Third Reich toward German composers and thinkers, but even Freudian psychology wasn't "banned." There was no ban. This is an irrational repetition of war propaganda.
You're right, there was no ban. But in most cases, they gave a pseudonym to the pieces, so they pretended it not to be from a jewish composer and told it had been made by another one.
Performances and publications of Mendelssohn's music WERE banned in Nazi Germany even though Mendelssohn was a devout Christian his whole life. The mere fact of his Jewish heritage was enough to warrant the ban.
@Badergader And don't forget his statue in Leipzig being torn down in 1936, not to be replaced until--guess when?
2008.
That is fact, and here's the citation: mendelssohn-preis.de/eng/about/about.html.
This is for the Nazi ban of Mendelssohn's music: umaine.edu/thearts/home/degenerate-musik/
Wagner also came up with the exact terms "Jewish Problem" and "Final Solution". He used them to describe ideas the Nazis would later put into practice. So let's not sugarcoat what he was: an Anti-Semite.
I understand that you dislike people who have anything negative to say about Jews, but you are out of your mind to say that Wagner wrote nothing as good as this. I am sure that Mendelssohn himself would have disagreed with you.
There`s good and bad in every race. I just find Wagner`s music highly destructive; it always seems to be on some downward spiral. Liszt is, for me, the high-point of Romanticism, with Wagner trailing off into some kind of decadent mire. Mendelsshon always lifts my spirits, and makes me smile.
@Flockton77 The idea that Mendelssohn was greater than Wagner is absurd. Not that Mendelssohn wasn't great, he was. But in terms of originality and influence Mendelssohn does not hold a candle.
Wagner wasn't a Nazi. He had anti-Semitic feelings like many people. But having anti-Semitic feelings like Wagner did does not mean he wanted Jews shipped off to gas chambers! Furthermore, Stravinski was probably more anti-Semitic than Wagner, and Jews have no problem worshipping Stravinski.
Wrong. His father Abraham, son of Moses Mendelssohn, had him baptized in 1816 when he was six. This music was written to accomapny a performance of Jean Racine's "Athalie." Racine, one of the world's great dramatists, was taught by the French Jansenists persecuted by that Servant of Rome, Louis XIV, but, since Racine had denounced them, he became historiographer to the king. For Athaliah, see: 2 Kings 8:1611:16 and 2 Chronicles 22:10-23:15.
I feel like I'm graduating from College. I wonder how did this song and Edward Elgar's Pomp and Circumstance became a Comencement Song worldwide? Do anybody know?
I'm playing this song on piano at my husband's college graduation in June...never heard it before (amazing, since I am a classical pianist!). Hope I can learn it by then.
he repeats Wedding March here again, then dilutes with stuff. =rough transition
Andron30jil 1 week ago
Dr.Phibes.
mrgeorge7196 4 weeks ago
@mrgeorge7196
Yes, indeed, truly abominable music.
notmrjohn 1 week ago
Love this piece! Playing it for LVYO (Las Vegas Youth Orchestra)
CallOFDutyMVP666 2 months ago
@CallOFDutyMVP666 Thats cool, because i also played it for LVYO. :D
hotdiggitydogness 1 month ago
I have heard this on a film or possibly a cartoon years ago. During some award ceremony or something. Has this been used in a film at all?
Lancastrian83 3 months ago
This is a fun piece to play
chuzzman42 3 months ago
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Excluding the two comments below me, and the top rated comments, the rest of these comments are just nonsensical dribble. I come here to listen to astounding music and read intellectual comments, not read arguments with men flaming each other as if the sun won't rise the next morrow. Quite honestly, it's utterly vulgar and embarrassing.
TehTacoNinja 3 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Felix Mendelssohn
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All of you not commenting on the music please go away. Maybe you just need to hush up and listen to the music!
RealSundanceGarden 3 months ago 3
Please, do your sanity a favor and don't scroll down.
mysterioso2006 3 months ago 8
one hell of a priest
TastefullyMad 3 months ago
it is your attitude @edraith (RAITH .. RAITH?) that is causing the hell on earth that we are coming into now. Jews *are* admirable for their intellect and accomplishments; as are many races on this earth (you are actually not a race, but that is a seperate discussion). I Iove many Jewish brothers and sisters. STOP WITH YOUR SUPERIORITY CRAP. IT IS CRAP AND IS LEADING TO THE 3RD WORLD WAR.
astrodaise1 3 months ago
@astrodaise1 Hell, I was just trolling -__-'
edraith 3 months ago
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(I'm not a fan of Hitler or KKK.)
autumntree2011 3 months ago
jesus, people. stop trying to place yourself above people by using statstics and all that crap and just live your live! dumb trolls.
ZombieBlobs 4 months ago
You hear this briefly in the movie 1776 when several of the supporting charaters from Pennsylvania are introduced early in the film.
DoctorJK3 4 months ago
Youtube, the hub of pointless arguments and mostly dumb videos, but this is gorgeous music.
ageshero 5 months ago 24
It take a regiment of stentorian voices, an over 100 piece orchestra, the magic of modern stagecraft, and a special set of acoustics for Richard Wagner to approach the power and authority that J. S. Bach can command with one single violin, and the notes of music he composed on the page.
61mrmusicman 5 months ago
Mendelssohn-Bartholdy's War March of the Priests is from his oratoria "Athelia." Mendelssohn may have been from Germany, but he was a god in Great Britain. Besides, he was one of the two best choral composers of the 19th century; Brahms being the other. So its no wonder that Mendelssohn tried his hand at English oratorio, resulting in "St. Paul" and best of all "Elijah." The War March is the one piece from Athalia that is still heard. Just ask Dr. Phibes.
61mrmusicman 6 months ago
If there was ever a song to kill time over a graduation ceremony with, this is it.
sickemdudley01 6 months ago
Not going to lie, the title sounds like it belongs with a Death Metal song not a symphonic piece.
ih8makinusernames 6 months ago
Fucking Jew.
EnLugal 6 months ago
@EnLugal fucking jews fucking other jew fuckers
GroddGuerrilla 6 months ago
Mendelssohn's grandfather was the Jewish philosopher Moses Mendelssohn. Mendelssohn grew up next door to a Christian church, came to love the hymns being sung, and converted to Christianity. This was in the early 19th Century. More than 100 years later, the monster Adolph Hitler came along, declared the antisemitic Richard Wagner to be THE German composer. The rest is just arguing about nothing. Both Mendelssohn and Wagner were great composers and their music will live forever.
AndersonDE7 6 months ago
@AndersonDE7 Ok that clears things up, thanks
SirPiper6 6 months ago
@AndersonDE7 Better check those facts. My understanding was that Felix's father, Abraham, converted the entire family Lutheran before Felix was in his teens. Felix will be remembered forever as the composer of Hark The Herald Angels Sing, that great Christmas Carol.
1brewski2 5 months ago
@1brewski2 I agree with your comments, but am not sure they conflict with my own. I didn't say that Felix was the only member of his family to convert to Christianity or that he didn't write some sublime hymns, only that he grew up next door to a church and came to love its music.
AndersonDE7 5 months ago
@AndersonDE7 To expand a little, none of Abraham's children were given a Jewish education, all were converted at the same time as children along with the parents . Felix did not make a decision because he loved Christian music. Although he did, I'm sure. Anyway, didn't they live on an estate? Dad was a wealthy banker.
1brewski2 5 months ago
@1brewski2 Your version sounds better, as there could be no question then that Felix converted to Christianity for "political" advantage (whatever his parents' motives may have been). I always wondered about that. Thanks for the information.
AndersonDE7 5 months ago
@AndersonDE7 Hard to tell about the motives. Can't read minds. Felix was a genuine Christian, no kidding there. Listen to that monumental treatment of "A Mighty Fortress" in the Reformation Symphony (which was rejected anyway, probably because of his Jewish background) or the chorus of Jews calling for the stoning of Jesus in the Oratorio" St. Paul" and tell me otherwise.
1brewski2 5 months ago
Hey kids, Mendelssohn was Wagner's father.
AndersonDE7 6 months ago
was the black adder theme loosely based off of this piece?
nirvrock77 7 months ago
No matter what, I love this song.
Looked for it everywhere, couldn't figure out "Kriegsmarsch der Priester aus...Athalia"
adidas6330 7 months ago
Let that be a lesson to Wagner, that a Jew can write Wagner-like music,,, anything more German than that?
cycler8 7 months ago
mendelssohn is great but lets get serious. the tannhauser overture alone puts his whole career to rest in my humble opinion. wagner was on another planet; as a composer and as a person, the latter being uh not a good planet.
devilxhlywood 8 months ago
@devilxhlywood As a composer, Jupiter, as a person Uranus?
zoodensha 8 months ago
I like the organ version too, just like in the movie Dr. Phibes. :-)
robhex 9 months ago
The Holocaust was one of the most terrible crimes in human history. Very few people deny that. But Wagner, as has been noted already, had been dead for over 50 years at that time. To infer that because HItler was an ardent Wagner fan and that Wagner would have endorsed the Holocaust is taking a large leap of faith. Back to Mendelssohn - he was, to the best of my knowledge, a devout Lutheran. I am surprised he wrote a song associating priests with war.
PhysicalsimForever 9 months ago 2
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PhysicalsimForever 9 months ago 16
@PhysicalsimForever It's tough for the Israelis though. They're kind've stuck between a rock (ba dum chhh) and a hard place. They've gotta be "tough guys" else they'll be overrun.
NonDairyYogurt 8 months ago 2
@PhysicalsimForever Because the Arab nations around them haven't tried to destroy them on multiple occaisions?
Secruss 5 months ago
@PhysicalsimForever You are a jerk. Would you like to be surrounded by people who hate you and send rockets down your streets everyday/night, no I think not! Those so-called Arab nations hate Israel and want Israel wiped off the map.
RadMadMike 5 months ago
@PhysicalsimForever
Yes it's the Israelis who are hostile, being attacked time and time again by several of their significantly larger arab neighbours -__-
I support the ban on Wagner's music, not because he was anti-semite but because he wrote crappy music lol. Bach is also often accused of being anti semitic but in contrast he wrote great music. We should ban Wagner in every country lol
lol just joking. Seriously I don't see the "hypocracy" considering all the bans in arab countries.
charlesdarwin55 5 months ago
@PhysicalsimForever Shut up and enjoy the music
TheFlyingFoodTester 5 months ago
@PhysicalsimForever Israel is the clear proof that Hitler was right. Jews are not humans, they are racist scumbags.
edraith 4 months ago
@edraith Please don't misinterpret my comments.
I am not a Hitler supporter, I just think it is highly ironic that the people who suffered as a result of Nazism should go and take on some of the characteristics of the people they despised soon afterwards. As a result of this, even now music is being hampered by politics, and that is what I object to. People shouldn't be deprived of the chance to see live performances great music because of a few selfish bigots.
PhysicalsimForever 4 months ago 3
@PhysicalsimForever I was just trolling.
edraith 4 months ago
@edraith ,,,,,,, soooooooo true.
veryhardful 4 months ago
@edraith shame on you talking like this after a nation clearly proved that they are peaceful human beings as well as they have no power other than high intellect..did you know that there are only 15 million jews world wide.?..and you all are afraid of them...it doesnt make any sense to me, every nation has its own genetic characteristics..you cant change the blood..thats about it..you want to change the world? look in the mirror
alinn71 4 months ago
@alinn71 Jews are just the same as other humans. It's Israel that should be eradicated from the world.
edraith 4 months ago
@edraith WE ARE NOT SAME AS OTHER HUMANS
STATISTICS WE BETTER ALL MUSIC, ALL SCIENCES , IN CHESS... IN... IN ..........
JEWIS PEOPLE THE BEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD
LastManOnGalaxy 4 months ago
@LastManOnGalaxy Naaah, you are just Nazis.
edraith 4 months ago
@edraith I CANT BE NAZIS ,
I LOVE MY PEOPLE
I DONT HATE YOU ,BUT JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE MANY TALENTS IN HISTORY
MUCH MORE OTHER PEOPLE -ITS FACT
IF YOU WHANT IT OR NOT
LastManOnGalaxy 4 months ago
@LastManOnGalaxy Naaah.Well, you're racist :P
edraith 3 months ago
@edraith I cant be racist because Jewish people have many of race (all race)
watch video in my page" Are Jews a Religion or a Race? "
im just love jewish :)
me russian JEWISH
LastManOnGalaxy 3 months ago
@edraith AND IF I LOVE JEWISH I AM RACIST ??? O_0
LastManOnGalaxy 3 months ago
@PhysicalsimForever Let's be just a little bit fair right now. Don't you think that the Arab nations surrounding the Jewish State just have a teeny weeny bit of hostility to Jews now, especially since Jews lived as second class citizens in the Arab and Ottoman world for over 1,000 year as Dhimini - having to pay special tax and being denied rights that Muslims had? What about referring to Jews as pigs and apes in the Koran? At least admit the hostility is two sided!
eddihaskell 4 months ago 2
@PhysicalsimForever No one gives a shit. This is a Mendelssohn video. Take your arguments to some Wagner forum or something.
HerlockSholmes123 3 months ago
I agree; it's definately by Mendelssohn- didn't think so at first, but if you're familiar with more of his works, as I am, you can definately tell they are by the same composer.
Bert3346 3 months ago
aaaaaarrrrrrggghhhh....sounds so NAZI's !!!!!!!
66kapitanstraat 9 months ago
@66kapitanstraat lol! The Nazis hated Mendelssohn because he was jewish...:(
wks1978 8 months ago
hmm whenever some ppl bring up Wagner -Felix Mendelssohn link ,there is always Hitler around and voila you just cant avoid freacking antisemitism theme.
Can you just fuckin enjoy the music,composers,or what ever you find in it.
So some ppl in history didnt not like jews ,no meter art of genre..Why d fuck that have to do anything with me when i listen ,or read ,or observe their art?
So ,some arab or nonejew kidd is free to hate Shimon Adaf,Yair Lapid,David Lavon due the israeli cleansing?
brekavac011 9 months ago
Why does everybody have to soil music with discussions about who banned this and who is a pile of crap and who is...
Music like this, like Wagner's, will NEVER be guilty of anything. Its words aren't meant to be understood or taken to offense, only married to sound... the proof is in so many foreign listeners. Human beings can only strive to imagine what real music truly describes... music that must become a world for the blind.
jeffamarie 10 months ago
@jeffamarie In general terms You are right, music as itself is innocent by definition. But the music is composed by real people. Those people have their own opinions resentments. I advise You to read a biography of Meyerbeer in wikipedia, You will find there several informations of Wagner`s antisemitic publications.
music is innocent, but sometimes its creators are not....
marbat1969 10 months ago
This was in the game Smackdown: Know Your Role
doddsino 10 months ago
Nine killed her... Nine shall die.... -_-
Bobzeaux 10 months ago
Why all the talk about Wagner on a Mendelssohn piece?
LucidDivinity 10 months ago 18
@LucidDivinity Why are YOU talking on a Mendelssohn piece?
thijsdebacker 9 months ago
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@LucidDivinity Wagner married Mendelssohn's daughter and they were close friends
mozzavs 4 months ago
@LucidDivinity Because Mendelssohn was Jewish, and Wagner was (allegedly) anti-Semitic.
trumpetplayer444 2 months ago
Oh canada, I feel like that can fit in here somewere
predalian5 10 months ago
What about the wicked witch of the west?
CrowHavenBM 11 months ago
Wagner writes atrocies melodies, everyone agrees
johannsebastienbach 11 months ago
@johannsebastienbach Ridiculous statement.
The whole Wagner business is ridiculous, as well. I mean, the man didn't whisper advice in Hitler's ear. He just composed (great) music and had certain political beliefs which many other people at the time shared. So what's the big deal?
And what are you doing anyway discussing him under a Mendelssohn piece...
otka4alga 10 months ago
@johannsebastienbach Ride of the Valkyries atrocious? Hardly. Harsh, yes. Intimidating, yes. But one of the most effective, exciting and memorable melodies of all time. Genius! Siegfried Idyll atrocious? Only if you consider sublime beauty atrocious. Dawn and Siegfried's Rhine Journey atrocious? Probably the most majestic music ever composed! Magic Fire? Sublime beauty. Immolation? Terribly powerful, followed by peaceful acceptance. Wagner was a master of melody.
mdenero 10 months ago
i prefer the wicked south
waikintsui304 11 months ago
i love you TheWickedNorth!!
banjodeluxe 11 months ago
stupid semites and anti-semites alike!!!! LEAVE EVERYONE ALONE!!!
androsborsato 1 year ago
love Mendelsohn's music....absolutely great, needless to say...
johnhofi 1 year ago
0:15 - 0:22 sounds like a triumphant theme for Pokemon.
samuelverble 1 year ago
well, ole Victoria may have listened, but did she hear ? and Richard was immature...so what ? don't make a mountain of a mole hill...fact is, Wagner wrote great music...ergo, his 'antisemitism' could not possibly have been more than skindeep. Have you seen Hitler's 'artworks' ? They're crap. That's what a real bigot does. No great artist is capable of truly anti-human feeling...it's just not possible...
johnhofi 1 year ago
after mendelssohn visited scotland and to a cave of all places called fingals cave he wrote an overture to it called the hebrides overture and im pretty sure queen victoria visited the same cave to listen to the overture in it i think the cave is on the island of staffa if memory serves me right
whatsgoingonthen 1 year ago
There is no doubt in my mind that Mendelssohn was far more 'German', or, let us say, continental European (as distinct from British) than Wagner. Mendelssohn was absolutely ahead of his time while Wagner was relatively degenerate. This is no fault of ole Richard's...he was simply born too late. It is not a Christian versus Jewish question, but, as usual in life, a question of timing. May all of you have good timing...
johnhofi 1 year ago 2
Yes but Mendelssohn was born a jew - and therefore to the Nazis a non-person.
He later accepted Christianity but that didn't matter to Adolph and company.
vawlkee51 1 year ago
it speaks to all heritages. i wish to be entombed with this playing.
chelzeaify 1 year ago
I like Mendelssohn. And Wagner. I'm nazi or "this good man"?
Wagner was great composer, and nazis knew that. Furthermore, Wagner's music is very... strong. Because of this power Wagner was favourite composer of nazis.
delMirjarz 1 year ago 2
wagner to is a wonderful composer it took him 26years to write the ring of nibelung otherwise known as the ring cycle
whatsgoingonthen 1 year ago
@whatsgoingonthen Yep. The "Ring" libretto weighs in at a stunning 96 lbs- that's what is termed a "tome"!
dieselheart001 1 year ago
mendelsson came to scotland on holiday visited fingals cave was so inspired tha t he wrote the hebridean overture with fingals cave and scotland in mind
whatsgoingonthen 1 year ago
I admire some of Wagner's music--especially his pre-Ring works. The problem I have with him is that he considered himself a philosopher first and a composer second and that the two were inextricably linked in his mind. This gives credence to claims of it affecting his music.
Other composers were antisemetic but none before went out of their way to cause such misery for the Jewish people. He and his disciples greatly discredited Mendelssohn--a fall from which he has not yet fully recovered.
BruceGreengart 1 year ago
Excelente version!! Quisera saber sus interpretes,puede ser Filarmonica de Viena con Donanhy?
SuperMefistofele 1 year ago
started playing this for our schools symphony orchestra. it's so much fun to play.
switchfootfan94 1 year ago
Ganz idiotischen kommentieren.
snuffythedog1974 1 year ago
Reminds me Dr.Phibes movie...
Akshabad 1 year ago
cmon guys !!! mendelssohn and wagner are both famous and good composers...HITLER is the IDIOT here!! lets rejoice tat we have 2 famous composers who gave the world good music!!
ewokmusic 1 year ago
Who feels like defending Wagner: thumbs up!
drummerponsi 1 year ago
Wagner attacked Mendelssohn after he had died. That's pretty low if you ask me. Wagner was a great composer, but he had a repulsive, little personality.
I'll praise his music not his ideals.
tetrisclock 1 year ago
@tetrisclock
I defend his music, not his ideals :)
drummerponsi 1 year ago
That's a good stance to take. If it was possible to completely strip music of nationality and ideology, the world would be a better place.
tetrisclock 1 year ago
@drummerponsi who feels like taking drummerponsi out into a dark alley and roughing him up a little bit? thumbs up!
antisemitism doesn't deserve defenders or apologists
BernardProfitendieu 1 year ago
@BernardProfitendieu
I think you missed the part where I said I defended his music, not his ideals.
His music isn't exactly screaming "death to the jews" as far as I'm concerned.
There are tons of people here bashing on Wagner's music, while I prefer his music over Mendelssohn's, that is all. Please chill out :)
drummerponsi 1 year ago
@drummerponsi no, his music doesn't scream that, but the pamphlets he published in the 1930s certainly did. You probably think John Wayne Gacy's clown paintings belong in the Louvre.
BernardProfitendieu 1 year ago
@BernardProfitendieu
Good sir, I have never even seen one of those paintings, but I have the vague feeling that that wouldn't be my opinion.
I'm more into classical art, as a listener and practitioner. In fact I teach classical percussion and am working on several requested compositions, one of them a fantasy on the Bolero for a ballet that will be played next spring. I hope this tiny bit of personal information plays in my defence.
One more thing: I like Wagner's music, not his ideas.
drummerponsi 1 year ago
This was the recessional music at my high school graduation in 1963. It was rather appropriate after 4 years with the Jesuits
12xanadu 1 year ago
How would you say that, like, "Fah-jay", is it French or something? Or were you trying to say faggot? Cause that has an "o" in it :)
bobbjob4815 1 year ago
Saint Germain has said about this music, "This is a march of peace and of freedom, of enlightenment and love, of wisdom and the God-determination to fulfill the fiery coil of Aquarius."
555Bergman 1 year ago
@555Bergman.... the one and only Comte St Germain?
taleeni 1 year ago
@taleeni
Yes! Borders and other book stores carry his teachings, through his messengers Mark and Elizabeth Clare Prophet; Summit University Press. He is the ascended hierarch of the current Age of Aquarius, as Jesus was the hierarch of the Age of Pisces.
555Bergman 1 year ago
Wow this is freaking awesome.
animalityyy 1 year ago
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This piece instantly became a sentimental piece for me. We marched the recessional to this music at my graduation. When I hear this, I think of all my teachers that we passed before while we marched from the ceremony.
Staceyeb3030 1 year ago
Awwww tear...they played this at my graduation saturday
heartofhumility24 1 year ago
You Bugs Bunny fans out there will recognize this theme played when Bugs drops a chewed carrot into the suit of armor a knight standing next to him is wearing....the knight challenges Bugs to a duel and hilarity ensues. You remember, don't you? Of course you do. Fabulous cartoon...nice marriage of classical music with animation.
drcrumpler 1 year ago
words cannot adequately express how much I love this piece. the first time I heard it I was a college freshman 5 years ago.
the college organist always did an amazing job with this piece.
*sigh* memories...
zsmith9032 1 year ago
OMG this is the perfect piece of music. I played it through high school till I graduated and almost balled out crying when it was time for me to march to it myself. Thank you for posting this.
romanceof1 1 year ago
Ok, wagner didn't like jews and this is pathetic. He was antisemit and it's really deplorable. However, he was NOT nazi. (and, for example, he refused to sign Förster's petition against the "invasion of the jews"). Wagner was dead before Hiltler was born. It's not wagner's fault if hitler like his music -__-
peaceloveandmusic8 1 year ago 37
@peaceloveandmusic8 How is this related to Mendelssohn By the way? Just asking because I have no idea between the comparison of this and Hitler (hope this isnt annoying you)
SirPiper6 6 months ago
What key is this?
I know it's minor but can't tell which one...
richardcadbury 1 year ago
actually it's not minor. it's in f major. the beginning is just a diminished and broken e chord that modulates to F major. The third chord in the F major part is an e flat, a, c chord hat gives this piece a feeling of uncertainness in war. that is what makes it sound so much like a minor key and also gives it its melancholy sort of melody. so it's ok to assume that this is in a minor key, but in actuality it is in a major key. hope this more than answered your question.
MasterMorty 1 year ago 4
wow what an answer! Thank so much!
richardcadbury 1 year ago
its not minor
waustrippendewaly 1 year ago
yeah i know my bad!!!
richardcadbury 1 year ago
If Wagner had stuck to writing for the orchestra he could have won the enduring fame of John Philip Sousa. His writing for solo voice — after Der Fliegende Holländer — is a complete waste of time.
naturgesetz 1 year ago
This was the tune that we marched in for our high school graduation. Glad that we had something different than the normal Pomp and C.
nchashim 2 years ago
Back in the Fifties the Music Professor who ran the school music program and Chapel choir used to play this piece on the organ. It sounded GREAT! He received so many repeat requests yhat he got tired of playing it..
ebenasire 2 years ago
wonderful portrait
johnhofi 2 years ago
@johnhofi agree with you,he looks alive as in a foto!
Siberiaeterna 1 year ago
Pff.
The Nazis banned this? Why??? It's so much to their mediocre taste.
FatherWarhol 2 years ago
Mendelssohn > Wagner
But Wagner is really nice composer.
MetrosexualBiker 2 years ago 16
I agree. Wagner is unbelievably overrated in my humble opinion.
Mendelssohn had a much larger variety of compositions.
Wagner wrote some nice operas, and I really enjoy that stuff, but other than that, I'm not a big fan.
Plus he was antisemitic loony.
tetrisclock 2 years ago
I hate Wagner for his views on Jews, but he excelled at his musical genre. Lohengrin is one of my personal favorites actually.
Mendelssohn was just more expansive in his repertoire. Simply put, he could do a lot more; everything from grandiose operatic-like scores like this one (which does sound much like Wagner) to infinitely technical violin and piano concertos.
tetrisclock 1 year ago
The best thing to do is appreciate both artist for what they accomplished, and as much as it irks me sometimes, I have to appreciate the musical magnitude of Wagner's works.
tetrisclock 1 year ago
@MetrosexualBiker
I like Mendelssohn more but I think Wagner was a more genious man than Mendelssohn. His music broke with every tradition and stil has an impact to date on how we look at written music. Wagner schocked the world and his influence reached artists and politicians all over the world. He was also very close to the King of Beieren , Lodewijk II...
Wagner's influence was so big that at a point it was called the "Wagner Culture".
RemovdSande11 1 year ago
@RemovdSande11 ...hmmm, yeah, I guess it takes a real genius to write the whole dang Lohengrin in 4/4 beat!.. :P
chrisQ1000 1 year ago
@MetrosexualBiker don't exaggerate. I'm Jewish and I get that it is idiotic to ban Mendelssohn, and Wagner was antisemitist and all, but he was way better than Mendelssohn...
ron1245 1 year ago
@MetrosexualBiker Wagner is better.anyway Mendelssohn is very nice
grretings from Brasil
JamesraynorII 10 months ago
really nice ? Liszt admired Wagner for his genious revolutionary thoughts on music. And in most cases Wagner should be considered a "more genious composer" than Mendelssohn. Wagner was born with the same romantic influences as Mendelssohn, yet he completely threw his former style overboard and developed his own "movement of music". I do agree on your part that Mendelssohn is the favourite in terms of listening. Wagner's music is very demanding to listen to compared to Mendelssohn's
RemovdSande11 10 months ago
@MetrosexualBiker Wagner is going to rise out of his grave and strangle you. You know how much shit he wrote about mendelson. A lot of his anti semitism came from the fact he felt outshined by mendelson
theanguished1 8 months ago
@theanguished1
Wait I thought he felt outshined by Beethoven and was like
"After Beethoven, what else can i do???" and then he made Opera!
I think I read that in a book somewhere (possibly some Nietzsche-for-dummies book)
muffinzilla 8 months ago
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robert49able 2 years ago
wunderschön !!
hoffmann9471 2 years ago
The nazis banned Mendelssohn?... just goes to show what a pile of crap THEY were. This music is far better than anything Wagner wrote.
Flockton77 2 years ago 17
I agree, they only banned Mendolssohn becasuse he was jewish.
pianoman1812 2 years ago 3
Mendelssohn is fantastic but I cant agree that its far better than anything Wagner wrote. Wagner belogs to anather world.
SonofDostojevskij 2 years ago 4
Who the fuck was Wagner?
draxx77 2 years ago
Ha ha ha...
SonofDostojevskij 2 years ago
rofl
Badergader 2 years ago
An anti-semetic hack.
jaysonvalentine 2 years ago
Heh, that's funny you'd refer to Wagner as a "hack." John Williams gets accused a lot for hacking Wagner, so if Wagner himself is a hack, what does that make Williams? :)
herbiehancock9999 2 years ago
Its BS that Nazis banned Mendelssohn but Wagner is not below Mendelssohn.
kigger622 2 years ago 3
Is that true? What are your sources? If M. was jewish, he probably was banned. They used to say "Jews have stolen european music peaces". So, is that true that Mendelssohn wasn't banned?
feetlvr84 2 years ago
Where do you get this generalization that if Mendessohn was Jewish he "probably was banned" in the Third Reich? Certainly there was a strong bias in the Third Reich toward German composers and thinkers, but even Freudian psychology wasn't "banned." There was no ban. This is an irrational repetition of war propaganda.
Germanicus666 2 years ago
You're right, there was no ban. But in most cases, they gave a pseudonym to the pieces, so they pretended it not to be from a jewish composer and told it had been made by another one.
feetlvr84 2 years ago
Performances and publications of Mendelssohn's music WERE banned in Nazi Germany even though Mendelssohn was a devout Christian his whole life. The mere fact of his Jewish heritage was enough to warrant the ban.
Badergader 2 years ago
You have added nothing with your bald assertion. Badergader says it and therefore it is true? No, I don't think so. You need to show a source.
Devout Christian? I doubt it. Baptism was a way for Jews to open doors that were otherwise closed to them.
Germanicus666 1 year ago
@Germanicus666 Ever heard the "Reform Symphony"?
muthafakataka2 1 year ago
@Badergader And don't forget his statue in Leipzig being torn down in 1936, not to be replaced until--guess when?
2008.
That is fact, and here's the citation: mendelssohn-preis.de/eng/about/about.html.
This is for the Nazi ban of Mendelssohn's music: umaine.edu/thearts/home/degenerate-musik/
Wagner also came up with the exact terms "Jewish Problem" and "Final Solution". He used them to describe ideas the Nazis would later put into practice. So let's not sugarcoat what he was: an Anti-Semite.
Aquaria 1 year ago
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Who the fuck was Wagner?
draxx77 2 years ago
I understand that you dislike people who have anything negative to say about Jews, but you are out of your mind to say that Wagner wrote nothing as good as this. I am sure that Mendelssohn himself would have disagreed with you.
Germanicus666 2 years ago
There`s good and bad in every race. I just find Wagner`s music highly destructive; it always seems to be on some downward spiral. Liszt is, for me, the high-point of Romanticism, with Wagner trailing off into some kind of decadent mire. Mendelsshon always lifts my spirits, and makes me smile.
Flockton77 2 years ago
This sounds early Wagnerian! No doubt that Wagner was musically in debt to and influenced by Mendelsohn, although he despised him officially!
robert49able 2 years ago
@Flockton77 They banned it because Mendelssohn was Jewish.
IshtarPiccolo 1 year ago
@Flockton77 They torched Mendelssohn? That's like torching Luther Vandross or Celine Dion.
GreatMewtwo 1 year ago
@GreatMewtwo Celine Dion can burn.......
TheJewbag42 1 year ago 2
@Flockton77 why do you think we went to war with them? duh. fucking Mendelssohn dude
LordDracha 1 year ago
@Flockton77 yeh, thats why the Nazis were crap... they had bad taste in music
Kerbieridesagain 1 year ago
@Flockton77 The idea that Mendelssohn was greater than Wagner is absurd. Not that Mendelssohn wasn't great, he was. But in terms of originality and influence Mendelssohn does not hold a candle.
Wagner wasn't a Nazi. He had anti-Semitic feelings like many people. But having anti-Semitic feelings like Wagner did does not mean he wanted Jews shipped off to gas chambers! Furthermore, Stravinski was probably more anti-Semitic than Wagner, and Jews have no problem worshipping Stravinski.
mdenero 10 months ago 3
Is there any picture of the hole play "Athalia" - would love to watch a good scene with the "march".
oktav1970 2 years ago
I presume this song is for the Lutheran "priests", since he was a Converso to Lutheranism, correct?
ServusRomae 2 years ago
Wrong. His father Abraham, son of Moses Mendelssohn, had him baptized in 1816 when he was six. This music was written to accomapny a performance of Jean Racine's "Athalie." Racine, one of the world's great dramatists, was taught by the French Jansenists persecuted by that Servant of Rome, Louis XIV, but, since Racine had denounced them, he became historiographer to the king. For Athaliah, see: 2 Kings 8:16 11:16 and 2 Chronicles 22:10-23:15.
But the Nazis did ban Mendelssohn's music.
NosHabebitHumus 2 years ago 2
I feel like I'm graduating from College. I wonder how did this song and Edward Elgar's Pomp and Circumstance became a Comencement Song worldwide? Do anybody know?
RussellAthletics 2 years ago
Please refer to Wikipedia "Pomp and Circumstance Marches"; March No. 1 in D section.
piscescq 2 years ago
eccezionale
sezzese74 2 years ago
Heard David Briggs play this on an orchestral pipe organ. Stunning both then and now again.
NihilNominis 2 years ago
Which recording is that? It's slower than I'm used to that piece....
theshow2k 2 years ago
I'm playing this song on piano at my husband's college graduation in June...never heard it before (amazing, since I am a classical pianist!). Hope I can learn it by then.
margaretregan 2 years ago