From the Hopi prophecies at the start of the film:
One day a container of ashes will fall from the sky
My take is that this means whatever we do to this earth we will reap the whirlwind - we can't fly up and away and escape from our actions. This is all we have.
That's what I liked most about the movie. You can let the movie and the emotions it brings forth in you take over without the constant pressure of figuring out "the deeper meaning", or "the story in it".
The film starts and ends with the launch of a space shuttle which is I guess a metaphor of the technological society. The shuttle is probably the best way to represent the technology as it is also a metaphor that we quit earth. As you can see the rise will be quick but the inevitable will happen and the fall will be terribly long and painful. Only the traces of us will remain and who knows if the pre-historical paintings don't suggest that there already had societies like ours before.
Fantastic music - great movie. Saw it when I was in college and this always has an impact on me. However, please don't take it out on NASA and the intrepid engineers and scientists who worked on space craft. Sure, there is lose and waste, but it has a higher order of purpose, than say, war fighting or commercial enterprises. This is for exploration. How many thousands of ships and people were lost during the exploration of the Earth? It is part of our journey...
Not seen this since the eighties, and guess what ? Fuck all has changed, the "fuck you" creed is still in effect and we still believe the fucking plunderers because they rely on our appetite for the latest THING !!! Ha ha laughing all the way to oblivion.
This film captured cinematic lightening in a bottle. There were sequels and knockoffs (Baraka) but this is one of the best films ever made and I pity people who are into movies and have never seen it
NOSTRA 1999 DAMUS 9111 ~“Feeling”~ ~“led”~ almost ~“compelled”~ to ~“write”~ my(free)~“book”~ ~”DIVINE 9/11 INTERVENTON”~@ LOVEGODISLOVEdotORG ~“thusly”~ I ~“discovered”~ a ~“77”~ ~“alignment”~ of ~“seven...”~'s ~“hidden”~ in the book of ~“Revelation”~! Do you think ~“this”~ ~“physical evidence”~ of ~“Spiritual Intelligence”~(i.e.~“God”~)might cause more of ~“us”~ to sit up and take notice of what it ~“truly”~ means to ~“Love thy neighbour as thyself.”~! Watch “The Curtain is Moving Again” here
man muss schon ziemlich dämlich oder schwerhörig sein um das da rauszuhören. das "kackt sie" kann ich noch nachvollziehen aber "feierabends" ist so weit vom eigentlichen entfernt, wie die rakete hätte von der erde entfernt sein sollen.
Warum alle Menschen immer ernst sein müssen. Beruhige dich! Hast du schonmal was von "Spaß" gehört? Den hast du auf jedenfall nicht. Ich verschwende außerdem nicht meine wertvolle Zeit über eine Diskussion ob man daraus jetzt "feierabends kackt sie" drauß hört oder nicht, es war einfach nur ein Scherz(Spaß). Ich denke das du auch manchmal Scherze ablässt wenn ich deinen Kommentar lese bin ich mir 100% sicher, dass du weißt das das nur ein Scherz war.
@Tarek701 Also da muss ich mal sagen: Es gibt heute ZU VIEL Spaß. Die Leute hier haben einfach keine Ahnung mehr wie es ist wenn es denen mal richtig dreckig geht. Wir hier in den Industrieländern haben eigentlich das kleinste Recht darauf nach Spaß zu schreien - wir haben eh schon mehr als der Großteil von der Rest der Welt - und ich würde sogar sagen ZU VIEL. Ich sag nurnoch: Mit einem riesien Grinsen ins Verderben, weil is ja alles so luschtisch hihihi.. ts.. *rolleyes*
Denn der eine Punkt ist: Wenn du keine Scherze oder keinen Spaß kennst, dann musst du in der Gesellschaft unbeliebt sein. Als nächstes wollte ich sagen, das du ganz genau wusstest das das ein Witz war, aber dich entweder hier als "Ich mache keine Scherze" Typ darstellst oder du nimmst WIRKLICH alles viel zu ernst.
@Tarek701 humor ist gut wenn man ihn hat .auch ich liebe es mit grenzwertigen scherzen kritisch zu provozieren... aber "feierabends kackt sie" ist zwar witzig, lässt aber angesichts dieser epischen szenen die ein gleichnis unserer kultur ohne mühe erkennen lassen.. ist deine ignorante infantilität dermaßen ausgeprägt , dass sie ihresgleichen sucht.
beispiel:
-video von newssendung, scherz lustig
-video von KZ häftlingen, scherz grenzwertig aber dennoch lustig.
Eben diese Szene ist Musik. Nichts weiter. Das was hier gezeigt wird ist nichts weiter als Dinge die überall auf der Welt passieren. Ständig kommen und gehen Menschen. Das akzeptieren die meisten nicht und leben wie du
in der Vergangenheit. Die Zeiten sind vorbei, schau in die Zukunft. Die KZ ist Vergangenheit, so wie dieses Video. Dadurch entstehen Scherze. Das ist nicht das schlimmste auf der Welt. Es gibt 1000 mal schlimmere Dinge, die immernoch scherzhaft angesehen werden.
Ein gutes Beispiel ist, die Französiche Revolution usw. die tauchen heute überall als Parodien auf und werden verscherzt. Du reagierst wie alle anderen hier auf einen einzigen Scherz über.
Die Wörter: "epichen szene" und "gleichnis unserer Kultur ohne mühe erkennen lassen", entschuldige wenn ich das jetzt falsch ausdrücke, aber: "Was soll der Scheiß?" Das ist 100%ig nicht das schlimmste was ich oder alle anderen hier gesehen haben.
so ist das wieder eine von Millionen anderer Dramtischer Szenen die wir gesehen haben. Amerika is für'n Arsch und die Regierung hat sie nicht mehr alle. Mehr sage ich nicht dazu.
what you are, and want to be, responsible for, effects anyone and anything you come in contact with.........when it's out of control, it has a domino effect
..if you look up the translation for the Native American word, it means 'out of control'....so when we neglect for profit and not give back, or mess things up here on Earth, leaving to explore does not solve the problem we created now. We should have listened to what Native Americans had to tell us before subjugating them to reservations. Get the meaning of the movie with it's name.
@saculvad Sadly, its the effect of the human nature, and you also have to remember that nobody in today's present is responsible, therefore there can be no blame shifted onto today's world.
@bluepickle15 Like he said, its a domino effect, that is what this movie is about, you see that nobody is responsible of what wrong might be caused to the earth, its just a massive timelapse of millions of peoples and millions of cars and lights for millions of moments in millions of dominos and suddenly something awful happens and people think it shouldnt have but its because of the domino that nobody sees. Apply that to everything, to the twin towers, to recession, gas, women, kids, science..
@bluepickle15 It has nothing to do with the isolated malfunction, of course, we've had more success than failures in aerospace programs. But its symbolic, and its about a dumb prophecy anyways, prophecies based on revengeful gods that want us to give blood back to him for what we take from nature. It has little to do with actual ecology, that says that pollution and trash doesnt dissolve as fast as we create it, and that its like a ball of unnecessary cancer, of unnecessary big populations.
How about that it has NOTHING to do with the Shuttle?
Its from the film Koyaanisqatsi, released Sep 1983 (2+ yrs before Challenger went tits up). Most of the filming was shot in the preceding 7 yrs but some archive footage was used - like here. The launch is of a Saturn V (moon rocket) and the blows-up/falling rocket is footage of the 1962 inaugural test launch of the (unmanned) Atlas-Centaur stack, which clearly didn't go to plan.
"During its maiden voyage in May 1962, a Centaur upper stage rocket, mated to an Atlas booster, exploded 54 seconds after launch, engulfing the rocket in a huge fireball. Investigation revealed that Centaur’s light, stainless-steel tank had split open, spilling its liquid-hydrogen fuel down its sides, where the flame of the rocket exhaust immediately ignited it."
@Guigley Yes. The music adds to it... its sparse, unrelenting ostinato compels you to keep watching. I have to agree though that I've never seen a longer tracking shot of such perfection. I think I would have pulled back to look at the whole picture. The fact that this just tracks the one part of debris makes it.
I'm pretty sure the American Dollar also was responsible for ensuring Phillip Glass got pre-natal care and gave youtube the financial leverage necessary to continue allowing people to upload videos.
It means something different to everyone. To me it is a metaphor for the futility of our society - the possibility of man and his creation as being simply an aberration and an abortion.
Food for thought and very well put, although if we're linking it to the quest of humans then maybe " The Missile Rockets Up Towards The Heavens with Enormous Thrust and Power, a magnificent testament to mans achievement ,,,,,,,,,,BANG,,,,,,,,, stupid humans got too cockey,,,,,,:( :( :( ,,,,,you only need look at a lovely view or feel the love of you're fellow human's to not feel the need to go and do this sort of stuff
@1679peter if you use a GPS, Cellphone, modern aircraft, computer, or even velcro! Thank the cocky foolishness of man! You'd be amazed to know what all we have today actually came from us finally uniting for the sole purpose to advancing technology, negate profits, the 50s-70s were an amazing time for technology for this very reason. The V2 rocket, designed for mass murder, Then used it to take the first pictures of earth from space in the late 40s if thats not a lovely view i dont know what is!
I doubt that the Atlas was off its intended course. Some of the leaning is programmed in ... climb to orbit is a smooth progression from up to sideways. Much of the leaning effect comes from camera placement. I suspect the rocket was blown up by the RSO for reasons other than course. The vernier rockets (responsible for steering an Atlas) were steady.
Regarding the exploding rocket as metaphor for technical hubris and ultimate decadence ... I politely but staunchly disagree.
It's worth noting that the foundations of the American's Space Program were laid by Nazi scientists who were granted amnesty after the second World War in exchange for the science behind the V2 rocket and their research on human physiology. Yes, that means their experiments on the Jews...
So, really, the rocket does sum up Humanity pretty well. As Leonardo Da Vinci once said 'If you would see the ingenuity of Man, look unto the weapons of war'.
This is not a top comment because it's not true. The rocket exactly obeys the law of gravity. That's why it's designed that way. And the rocket is not a good analogy with human civilization. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that people who wish to see things that way must be horribly pessimistic and self-abasing in their thinking.
Anyone else ever thought why show the rocket at the end of the movie? They could have shown any other human creation failing, not necessarily a rocket.
@SajukkTheEternal Note the similarities of the rocket with human civilization:
The rocket is flies upwards (not any other direction).
It' travels at incredible speeds.
It defies nature's law of gravity.
It's destined to leave the planet and reach space.
Space travel is the ultimate sign of pride for the human species.
The launch sequence is magnificent. Then you slowly notice the rocket is leaning. Something is wrong. You realize it when you see it flying almost horizontally...
@SajukkTheEternal you suggest that the "leaning rocket" is a sign that something is wrong. That's not the case. When a rocket is launched, it does moves directly upwards, however the eventual goal is that when it reaches it's orbit it motion will be perpendicular to the direction of earths gravity - that is it's altitude will be constant.
If you care to study any spacecraft launch you will see in all cases the the rocket slowly starts "leaning" - so that it can enter orbit.
Yes. Exactly. The similarity is scary. We are looking for places to live on other planets when we don't even manage to live in a sound way here on a planet that is a paradise by the standards of the rest of the galaxy.
@SajukkTheEternal Hey Eternal, have you read (you must have) things like 'the turning point' Fritjof Capra, or even 'future shock' by Alvin,... Someone or other, it's been years. All that rises must fall, no mountains without valleys, no life without death.
@SajukkTheEternal Rockets are meant to have horizontal flight at a certain moment... they're meant to go in orbit or launch something in orbit. They NEVER go only vertically (which would be difficult to achieve anyway).
@SajukkTheEternal Except human civilization hasn't tilted and crashed, we still advance at an incredible rate with no sign of stopping. The only threat seems to be the tyranny of modern government (specifically the USA) and the prison planet it might create. However, if you look at the state of affairs of the industrial age, the middle age, the dark age, and earlier, you can see that we're still better off.
@SajukkTheEternal The Saturn V rocket is the most powerful engine of any kind ever produced. Space travel is the pinnacle of human endeavors. Sometimes we fail, and this movie makes it seem like we shouldn't try. I disagree, but it is a beautiful movie none the less.
@SajukkTheEternal I agree, it seems unusual. But you have to remember when the film came out. The lunar missions were still fresh in everyone's mind. A mere 10 years prior. Plus the Space Shuttle Columbia had just made it's maiden voyage a year before this film's release. At the time, the possiblities of seemed endless.
@gimme2utah1 It stands as a powerful metaphor for how we've come to view human progress in the latter half of the twentieth century. Projects of modernity have been utterly fraught with disaster and alongside countless improvements to civilisation was ultimately humankind's capacity for self-annihilation. Like you said, the last lunar mission was a whole decade prior to the film's release. By this time, the buzz of the 60s was like the broken memory of a dream.
Imo? The space rocket is the symbol, the paradigm and epitome of the twentieth century and its overarching mythos of Progress. It was contemporaneous with the idea, less universal now, that technology would be the ladder to heaven, both literal and cognitive. Prometheus' fire, the apple of the tree, wings of Icarus (also prone to equipment failure!) ... the promise of parity with the gods.
Saturn launch footage never fails to bring tears to my eyes. MY species did that!
oppure il contenitore di ceneri è riferito alla forma, e quindi a dei dischi volanti che arriveranno? Sono certo dell'esistenza e attività aliena sulla terra, ma sono anche certo che la maggior parte di essi sono benevoli e cercheranno di salvarci e portarci verso l'Ascenzione., quindi non credo che brucieranno la terra e faranno bollire gli oceani... Forse il terzo punto è' riferito a una meteora in rotta sulla terra, ma ripeto, non credo che subiremo catastrofi. Pace e Amore
bellissimo... ma ti chiedo secondo te, le profezie Hopi cantante in questo film corrispondono a :
1) al fatto che stiamo risucchiando tutto il petrolio dalla terra
2) forse dalle scie chimiche che stanno impestando l'atmosfera e provocano molte malattie
3) E' riferito a Nibiru?
Perchè io credo che nel 2012 cambierè radicalmente il mondo, ma sono convinto che la terra rimarrà intatta e non subiremo catastrofi... quindi cosa potrebbe essere quel contenitore di ceneri?
very well put...had a similar experience.
LeagueCityRecords 1 week ago
Watched before Ponies... Came back because of them...
christkids 1 week ago
There are those who spend billions on space shuttles that have no use. And then there are those who starve.
LightStijn 2 weeks ago
@LightStijn I think building space shuttles it better than building tanks and guns.
lolcats121 2 weeks ago 11
From the Hopi prophecies at the start of the film:
One day a container of ashes will fall from the sky
My take is that this means whatever we do to this earth we will reap the whirlwind - we can't fly up and away and escape from our actions. This is all we have.
custardaghost 3 weeks ago
You all want to look at deep meaning. Just listen. There is no deeper
guinsoable 3 weeks ago
@guinsoable
That's what I liked most about the movie. You can let the movie and the emotions it brings forth in you take over without the constant pressure of figuring out "the deeper meaning", or "the story in it".
Gousteaue 2 weeks ago
@guinsoable I can go deeper. Lol
3000jman 3 days ago
Amazing organ. Like a Bah. One of greatest melody in our time
guinsoable 3 weeks ago
what the hell is the end suppose to mean??
OMcomics 1 month ago
The film starts and ends with the launch of a space shuttle which is I guess a metaphor of the technological society. The shuttle is probably the best way to represent the technology as it is also a metaphor that we quit earth. As you can see the rise will be quick but the inevitable will happen and the fall will be terribly long and painful. Only the traces of us will remain and who knows if the pre-historical paintings don't suggest that there already had societies like ours before.
caravaning4 1 month ago 2
@caravaning4 It's not a space shuttle. The majority of this footage is from the failure of a Atlas-Centaur rocket in May of 1962.
Yougimpytube 4 weeks ago 2
@Yougimpytube Sorry my poor English didn't make a difference between a shuttle and a rocket. Thks for the info;)
caravaning4 4 weeks ago
THIS
IS
HYPNOTIC
(EXCLAMATION POINT)
illhumpurmom 1 month ago
Would you say this movie is nihilistic?
tomsriv 1 month ago
@tomsriv
Yes , very nichilistic ! It's no hope for humankind
marcob4630 1 month ago
"If we dig precious things from the land, we will invite disaster."
"Near the day of Purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky."
"A container of ashes might one day be thrown from the sky, which could burn the land and boil the oceans."
TheStickism 1 month ago
Fantastic music - great movie. Saw it when I was in college and this always has an impact on me. However, please don't take it out on NASA and the intrepid engineers and scientists who worked on space craft. Sure, there is lose and waste, but it has a higher order of purpose, than say, war fighting or commercial enterprises. This is for exploration. How many thousands of ships and people were lost during the exploration of the Earth? It is part of our journey...
goginetTV 1 month ago
Not seen this since the eighties, and guess what ? Fuck all has changed, the "fuck you" creed is still in effect and we still believe the fucking plunderers because they rely on our appetite for the latest THING !!! Ha ha laughing all the way to oblivion.
wayart1959 1 month ago
The wreck of the "Costa Concordia" would be very fitting to this collage!
luckyowl249 1 month ago
Billions of dollars, thousands of liters of gasoline ..... Destroyed in minutes.
Wostok666 1 month ago
boooom
mawldropper 1 month ago
haunting and hypnotic
Scottydont66 1 month ago
This film captured cinematic lightening in a bottle. There were sequels and knockoffs (Baraka) but this is one of the best films ever made and I pity people who are into movies and have never seen it
Rumpull4skin 2 months ago
best anti-nasa commercial ever seen
ramsy2 2 months ago
this video has the greatest sound quality of anything on youtube. How did you do that?!
guitarskills2 2 months ago
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NOSTRA 1999 DAMUS 9111 ~“Feeling”~ ~“led”~ almost ~“compelled”~ to ~“write”~ my(free)~“book”~ ~”DIVINE 9/11 INTERVENTON”~@ LOVEGODISLOVEdotORG ~“thusly”~ I ~“discovered”~ a ~“77”~ ~“alignment”~ of ~“seven...”~'s ~“hidden”~ in the book of ~“Revelation”~! Do you think ~“this”~ ~“physical evidence”~ of ~“Spiritual Intelligence”~(i.e.~“God”~)might cause more of ~“us”~ to sit up and take notice of what it ~“truly”~ means to ~“Love thy neighbour as thyself.”~! Watch “The Curtain is Moving Again” here
a77white 2 months ago
So this shows that nature sucks and we need to build more rockets, right?
lokhtar 2 months ago 4
@lokhtar
No, it shows the Hopi prophecies "One day a container of ashes will fall from the sky"
custardaghost 1 month ago 2
@lokhtar Its more Physic than nature or isnt it ?
PS:Physic sucks too :)
Jigullo 3 days ago
4 people were in that rocket
cjcarljohnon 2 months ago
life all jacked up
mawldropper 2 months ago
it means something... but what?
thejuggernautbitch7 2 months ago
@thejuggernautbitch7 That we are the rocket, man....This is what deserves us the future, and the tenclogy progress, our end
MrRaigami 2 months ago
@thejuggernautbitch7 and we will return to the age of rocks
MrRaigami 2 months ago
@thejuggernautbitch7
The rise and eventual fall of human civilisation.
FractalZero 2 months ago 4
This is easily the greatest musical score of all time.
Vameon 3 months ago
Lots of self loathing in this comments section.
I think humanity's pretty great.
Geistjaeger 3 months ago
sIMPLY BREATH-TA-KING!
wbrigiw 3 months ago
On the tombstone of mankind - Here lies Machine Culture ,all brokenhearted came to ..."
DaDa2Phlux 3 months ago 3
Always liked the 3 qatsi movies
MrKENPACHITAICHO 3 months ago
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RIP Jeb Kerman
madhava64 4 months ago
RIP Jeb Kerman
madhava64 4 months ago
English:
"If we dig precious things from the land, we will invite disaster.
Near the Day of Purification, there will be cobwebs
spun back and forth in the sky.
A container of ashes might one day be thrown from the sky,
which could burn the land and boil the oceans. "
batouAnderson 4 months ago 2
An die Deutschen:
Warum verstehe ich nur: "Feierabends kackt sie."?
Tarek701 4 months ago
@Tarek701 lol xD, ja wenn man richtig hinhört dann versteht man das
splitzilla 4 months ago
@Tarek701 @spilitzilla
man muss schon ziemlich dämlich oder schwerhörig sein um das da rauszuhören. das "kackt sie" kann ich noch nachvollziehen aber "feierabends" ist so weit vom eigentlichen entfernt, wie die rakete hätte von der erde entfernt sein sollen.
anticonny 3 months ago
@anticonny
Warum alle Menschen immer ernst sein müssen. Beruhige dich! Hast du schonmal was von "Spaß" gehört? Den hast du auf jedenfall nicht. Ich verschwende außerdem nicht meine wertvolle Zeit über eine Diskussion ob man daraus jetzt "feierabends kackt sie" drauß hört oder nicht, es war einfach nur ein Scherz(Spaß). Ich denke das du auch manchmal Scherze ablässt wenn ich deinen Kommentar lese bin ich mir 100% sicher, dass du weißt das das nur ein Scherz war.
Tarek701 3 months ago
@Tarek701 Also da muss ich mal sagen: Es gibt heute ZU VIEL Spaß. Die Leute hier haben einfach keine Ahnung mehr wie es ist wenn es denen mal richtig dreckig geht. Wir hier in den Industrieländern haben eigentlich das kleinste Recht darauf nach Spaß zu schreien - wir haben eh schon mehr als der Großteil von der Rest der Welt - und ich würde sogar sagen ZU VIEL. Ich sag nurnoch: Mit einem riesien Grinsen ins Verderben, weil is ja alles so luschtisch hihihi.. ts.. *rolleyes*
Valvallaria 2 months ago
@anticonny
Denn der eine Punkt ist: Wenn du keine Scherze oder keinen Spaß kennst, dann musst du in der Gesellschaft unbeliebt sein. Als nächstes wollte ich sagen, das du ganz genau wusstest das das ein Witz war, aber dich entweder hier als "Ich mache keine Scherze" Typ darstellst oder du nimmst WIRKLICH alles viel zu ernst.
Tarek701 3 months ago
@Tarek701 humor ist gut wenn man ihn hat .auch ich liebe es mit grenzwertigen scherzen kritisch zu provozieren... aber "feierabends kackt sie" ist zwar witzig, lässt aber angesichts dieser epischen szenen die ein gleichnis unserer kultur ohne mühe erkennen lassen.. ist deine ignorante infantilität dermaßen ausgeprägt , dass sie ihresgleichen sucht.
beispiel:
-video von newssendung, scherz lustig
-video von KZ häftlingen, scherz grenzwertig aber dennoch lustig.
-ebendiese szene: nicht lustig
aoxotomotoxoa 3 months ago 2
@aoxotomotoxoa
Eben diese Szene ist Musik. Nichts weiter. Das was hier gezeigt wird ist nichts weiter als Dinge die überall auf der Welt passieren. Ständig kommen und gehen Menschen. Das akzeptieren die meisten nicht und leben wie du
in der Vergangenheit. Die Zeiten sind vorbei, schau in die Zukunft. Die KZ ist Vergangenheit, so wie dieses Video. Dadurch entstehen Scherze. Das ist nicht das schlimmste auf der Welt. Es gibt 1000 mal schlimmere Dinge, die immernoch scherzhaft angesehen werden.
Tarek701 3 months ago
@aoxotomotoxoa
Ein gutes Beispiel ist, die Französiche Revolution usw. die tauchen heute überall als Parodien auf und werden verscherzt. Du reagierst wie alle anderen hier auf einen einzigen Scherz über.
Die Wörter: "epichen szene" und "gleichnis unserer Kultur ohne mühe erkennen lassen", entschuldige wenn ich das jetzt falsch ausdrücke, aber: "Was soll der Scheiß?" Das ist 100%ig nicht das schlimmste was ich oder alle anderen hier gesehen haben.
Tarek701 3 months ago
@Tarek701
haha wie er da gleich auszuckt! XD
aoxotomotoxoa 3 months ago
@aoxotomotoxoa
so ist das wieder eine von Millionen anderer Dramtischer Szenen die wir gesehen haben. Amerika is für'n Arsch und die Regierung hat sie nicht mehr alle. Mehr sage ich nicht dazu.
Tarek701 3 months ago
This music ... <3
pathduck 4 months ago
If there is a god, they sure caught him on film this time.
jmpettersson 4 months ago 4
this movie and baraka stirred my soul up pretty deeply.
MrMushroom123 4 months ago
what you are, and want to be, responsible for, effects anyone and anything you come in contact with.........when it's out of control, it has a domino effect
saculvad 4 months ago
because that's what the movie is all about
saculvad 4 months ago
..if you look up the translation for the Native American word, it means 'out of control'....so when we neglect for profit and not give back, or mess things up here on Earth, leaving to explore does not solve the problem we created now. We should have listened to what Native Americans had to tell us before subjugating them to reservations. Get the meaning of the movie with it's name.
saculvad 5 months ago
@saculvad Sadly, its the effect of the human nature, and you also have to remember that nobody in today's present is responsible, therefore there can be no blame shifted onto today's world.
bluepickle15 4 months ago
@bluepickle15 Like he said, its a domino effect, that is what this movie is about, you see that nobody is responsible of what wrong might be caused to the earth, its just a massive timelapse of millions of peoples and millions of cars and lights for millions of moments in millions of dominos and suddenly something awful happens and people think it shouldnt have but its because of the domino that nobody sees. Apply that to everything, to the twin towers, to recession, gas, women, kids, science..
omgtkseth 4 months ago 4
@saculvad Besides, how the hell is that relevent to a video about the shuttle malfunction?
bluepickle15 4 months ago
@bluepickle15 It has nothing to do with the isolated malfunction, of course, we've had more success than failures in aerospace programs. But its symbolic, and its about a dumb prophecy anyways, prophecies based on revengeful gods that want us to give blood back to him for what we take from nature. It has little to do with actual ecology, that says that pollution and trash doesnt dissolve as fast as we create it, and that its like a ball of unnecessary cancer, of unnecessary big populations.
omgtkseth 4 months ago 3
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custardaghost 4 months ago
@bluepickle15
How about that it has NOTHING to do with the Shuttle?
Its from the film Koyaanisqatsi, released Sep 1983 (2+ yrs before Challenger went tits up). Most of the filming was shot in the preceding 7 yrs but some archive footage was used - like here. The launch is of a Saturn V (moon rocket) and the blows-up/falling rocket is footage of the 1962 inaugural test launch of the (unmanned) Atlas-Centaur stack, which clearly didn't go to plan.
Space flight didn't start with the Shuttle.
custardaghost 4 months ago 3
"During its maiden voyage in May 1962, a Centaur upper stage rocket, mated to an Atlas booster, exploded 54 seconds after launch, engulfing the rocket in a huge fireball. Investigation revealed that Centaur’s light, stainless-steel tank had split open, spilling its liquid-hydrogen fuel down its sides, where the flame of the rocket exhaust immediately ignited it."
Magus36 5 months ago
Not the space shuttle, but what ?
12xenawp37 5 months ago
The shot of the exploding rocket is, as my editing teacher said, "the world's greatest tracking shot." Utterly hypnotic.
Guigley 5 months ago
@Guigley Yes. The music adds to it... its sparse, unrelenting ostinato compels you to keep watching. I have to agree though that I've never seen a longer tracking shot of such perfection. I think I would have pulled back to look at the whole picture. The fact that this just tracks the one part of debris makes it.
billyruss 4 months ago 3
The other two movies and Chronos are a must watch.
TheDeJureTour 5 months ago
I get it! its a metaphor for the US DOLLAR!!!
bastardchildofmary 5 months ago 42
@bastardchildofmary
it's the only worthy thing the us dollar ever did
MsPandaRosa 4 weeks ago
@MsPandaRosa good point!!
bastardchildofmary 4 weeks ago
@MsPandaRosa
I'm pretty sure the American Dollar also was responsible for ensuring Phillip Glass got pre-natal care and gave youtube the financial leverage necessary to continue allowing people to upload videos.
GentlemanBystander 1 week ago
There went all of their new clean clothes.
62636263c 5 months ago
icarus spreading his wings ...and falling ...
GuldentopsTim 5 months ago 3
It means something different to everyone. To me it is a metaphor for the futility of our society - the possibility of man and his creation as being simply an aberration and an abortion.
FraterOculus 5 months ago
Good god this is the best fucking thing I have ever watched/listened to on YouTube.
adzyb69 5 months ago 68
@adzyb69 Check out the "Pruitt Igoe" piece from the same movie.
gimme2utah1 5 months ago 2
@adzyb69
I saw this aged 16 at the cinema (local London fleapit, mostly empty) one night in Nov 1983, without a fucking clue what to expect.
Came out into a rainy street 2 hours later never the same again. For the better
custardaghost 2 months ago 28
had to watch this sequence after watching transcendent man to quell any overly optimistic thoughts I was having
TheSnather 6 months ago
I think the rocket is a metaphor for abstract nonsense being written about exploding rockets
DavidMiloDoyle 6 months ago 3
@TheEvilflea Oh never mind!
kerbal666 6 months ago
Bloody hell ... that was hypnotic ... LOVE it.
livrule 6 months ago
@TheEvilflea Well in jokes are going to arnt they.
kerbal666 6 months ago
@TheEvilflea Hows that? It did takes ages to fall.
kerbal666 6 months ago
This film, is... fucking realist...
TengoUnOboe 6 months ago
i think it represents something rather simple. We will reach ever greater heights, but in the end we will fall in a magnificent display.
NINJ4Jesus 7 months ago
Food for thought and very well put, although if we're linking it to the quest of humans then maybe " The Missile Rockets Up Towards The Heavens with Enormous Thrust and Power, a magnificent testament to mans achievement ,,,,,,,,,,BANG,,,,,,,,, stupid humans got too cockey,,,,,,:( :( :( ,,,,,you only need look at a lovely view or feel the love of you're fellow human's to not feel the need to go and do this sort of stuff
1679peter 7 months ago
@1679peter if you use a GPS, Cellphone, modern aircraft, computer, or even velcro! Thank the cocky foolishness of man! You'd be amazed to know what all we have today actually came from us finally uniting for the sole purpose to advancing technology, negate profits, the 50s-70s were an amazing time for technology for this very reason. The V2 rocket, designed for mass murder, Then used it to take the first pictures of earth from space in the late 40s if thats not a lovely view i dont know what is!
skomikbewm 7 months ago
How long did it take to fall!! Jesus!
kerbal666 7 months ago
@kerbal666 Piss off.
LightStijn 6 months ago
I doubt that the Atlas was off its intended course. Some of the leaning is programmed in ... climb to orbit is a smooth progression from up to sideways. Much of the leaning effect comes from camera placement. I suspect the rocket was blown up by the RSO for reasons other than course. The vernier rockets (responsible for steering an Atlas) were steady.
Regarding the exploding rocket as metaphor for technical hubris and ultimate decadence ... I politely but staunchly disagree.
aporigine 7 months ago
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Mystro84 7 months ago
@universalsailor
It's worth noting that the foundations of the American's Space Program were laid by Nazi scientists who were granted amnesty after the second World War in exchange for the science behind the V2 rocket and their research on human physiology. Yes, that means their experiments on the Jews...
So, really, the rocket does sum up Humanity pretty well. As Leonardo Da Vinci once said 'If you would see the ingenuity of Man, look unto the weapons of war'.
Evil has a habit of prevailing.
Mystro84 7 months ago
"It defies nature's law of gravity."
This is not a top comment because it's not true. The rocket exactly obeys the law of gravity. That's why it's designed that way. And the rocket is not a good analogy with human civilization. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that people who wish to see things that way must be horribly pessimistic and self-abasing in their thinking.
universalsailor 7 months ago
Youtube doesn't do justice to this clip. It's much more powerful with decent quality and bigger screen. Anyway, great film. And good actors too!
TheAchonen 8 months ago
one of the most beautiful songs ever recorded!! thank you mr. glass for touching my heart so directly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
broncosalzgitter 9 months ago
Note the sky is blue, like a new beginning
JDilla2812 9 months ago
The sky is not blue, like a new beginning. The sky is blue, like sky.
EwenMcPifter 9 months ago
This is soooo fucked up! I'm totally tripping now! This movie is the best! (if you're on mushrooms...)
tomichaubg 9 months ago 3
Epic !
Schnitzelfreaks 9 months ago
1:28 bad moment in history
BigM7427 9 months ago
Icarus
MySongIsLove22 10 months ago
Within the films context, this is truly the most powerful scene in Film History.
RezaShah4 10 months ago
@RezaShah4
Agreed. Hope turns to horror in an instant...
YesRoyalty 9 months ago 2
Is this like the tower of babel? Humans overreaching, falling, failing, crushed.
whisperedmysteries 10 months ago
Anyone else ever thought why show the rocket at the end of the movie? They could have shown any other human creation failing, not necessarily a rocket.
SajukkTheEternal 11 months ago
@SajukkTheEternal Note the similarities of the rocket with human civilization:
The rocket is flies upwards (not any other direction).
It' travels at incredible speeds.
It defies nature's law of gravity.
It's destined to leave the planet and reach space.
Space travel is the ultimate sign of pride for the human species.
The launch sequence is magnificent. Then you slowly notice the rocket is leaning. Something is wrong. You realize it when you see it flying almost horizontally...
SajukkTheEternal 11 months ago 73
@SajukkTheEternal
And then... kaboom.
The rocket doesn't just explode, it's going down IN FLAMES.
Human pride is smashed. A shovel hit in the face. We forget we are mortals, that our time on this planet is limited.
The messages are clear. This part of the movie is simply ingenious. I can't believe it after so many years
SajukkTheEternal 11 months ago 4
@SajukkTheEternal you suggest that the "leaning rocket" is a sign that something is wrong. That's not the case. When a rocket is launched, it does moves directly upwards, however the eventual goal is that when it reaches it's orbit it motion will be perpendicular to the direction of earths gravity - that is it's altitude will be constant.
If you care to study any spacecraft launch you will see in all cases the the rocket slowly starts "leaning" - so that it can enter orbit.
kbdkbd99 11 months ago 2
@SajukkTheEternal
Yes. Exactly. The similarity is scary. We are looking for places to live on other planets when we don't even manage to live in a sound way here on a planet that is a paradise by the standards of the rest of the galaxy.
grobblewobble 10 months ago
@grobblewobble baffling how we think we can tame another planet when we can't even survive on one where everything is handed to us.
TheSnather 9 months ago
@SajukkTheEternal the rocket and humankind are unrelated
chechonilus 8 months ago
@SajukkTheEternal
we are still flying upwards
bobbie001 8 months ago
@SajukkTheEternal
I think you nailed it - that was good.
rwilsond 6 months ago
@SajukkTheEternal Hey Eternal, have you read (you must have) things like 'the turning point' Fritjof Capra, or even 'future shock' by Alvin,... Someone or other, it's been years. All that rises must fall, no mountains without valleys, no life without death.
Cheers
Diamond
enlightenedDiamond 6 months ago
@SajukkTheEternal Rockets are meant to have horizontal flight at a certain moment... they're meant to go in orbit or launch something in orbit. They NEVER go only vertically (which would be difficult to achieve anyway).
It's ballistic.
CPL426H 6 months ago
@SajukkTheEternal Except human civilization hasn't tilted and crashed, we still advance at an incredible rate with no sign of stopping. The only threat seems to be the tyranny of modern government (specifically the USA) and the prison planet it might create. However, if you look at the state of affairs of the industrial age, the middle age, the dark age, and earlier, you can see that we're still better off.
TheKingdomofErnor 4 months ago
@SajukkTheEternal The Saturn V rocket is the most powerful engine of any kind ever produced. Space travel is the pinnacle of human endeavors. Sometimes we fail, and this movie makes it seem like we shouldn't try. I disagree, but it is a beautiful movie none the less.
tomsriv 11 months ago 5
@SajukkTheEternal I agree, it seems unusual. But you have to remember when the film came out. The lunar missions were still fresh in everyone's mind. A mere 10 years prior. Plus the Space Shuttle Columbia had just made it's maiden voyage a year before this film's release. At the time, the possiblities of seemed endless.
gimme2utah1 9 months ago
@gimme2utah1 It stands as a powerful metaphor for how we've come to view human progress in the latter half of the twentieth century. Projects of modernity have been utterly fraught with disaster and alongside countless improvements to civilisation was ultimately humankind's capacity for self-annihilation. Like you said, the last lunar mission was a whole decade prior to the film's release. By this time, the buzz of the 60s was like the broken memory of a dream.
iirfaithless 9 months ago
@SajukkTheEternal
Imo? The space rocket is the symbol, the paradigm and epitome of the twentieth century and its overarching mythos of Progress. It was contemporaneous with the idea, less universal now, that technology would be the ladder to heaven, both literal and cognitive. Prometheus' fire, the apple of the tree, wings of Icarus (also prone to equipment failure!) ... the promise of parity with the gods.
Saturn launch footage never fails to bring tears to my eyes. MY species did that!
aporigine 7 months ago
...In lingua HOPI : "vivere nello squilibrio"
hotello2009 1 year ago
life of moral corruption and turmoil
life out of balance,
a state of life that calls for another way of living.
zagyex 1 year ago
the system will fail just like this rocket
Schnitzelfreaks 1 year ago 6
damn it we dont speak no mexican here in A'merica
babablackmon123 1 year ago
@babablackmon123
time to learn
freeclimb64 1 year ago
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deepbluehue3 1 year ago
The movie " WATCHMEN" use this song for one of is heroe " doctor Mananthan .
senna197488 1 year ago
oppure il contenitore di ceneri è riferito alla forma, e quindi a dei dischi volanti che arriveranno? Sono certo dell'esistenza e attività aliena sulla terra, ma sono anche certo che la maggior parte di essi sono benevoli e cercheranno di salvarci e portarci verso l'Ascenzione., quindi non credo che brucieranno la terra e faranno bollire gli oceani... Forse il terzo punto è' riferito a una meteora in rotta sulla terra, ma ripeto, non credo che subiremo catastrofi. Pace e Amore
Marius1988Roma 1 year ago
bellissimo... ma ti chiedo secondo te, le profezie Hopi cantante in questo film corrispondono a :
1) al fatto che stiamo risucchiando tutto il petrolio dalla terra
2) forse dalle scie chimiche che stanno impestando l'atmosfera e provocano molte malattie
3) E' riferito a Nibiru?
Perchè io credo che nel 2012 cambierè radicalmente il mondo, ma sono convinto che la terra rimarrà intatta e non subiremo catastrofi... quindi cosa potrebbe essere quel contenitore di ceneri?
Marius1988Roma 1 year ago
The end of everything
WeAreAliv 1 year ago
@WeAreAliv the end of everything brings the start of everything else, nothing gets lost all gets transformed.
YaBoyShmoo 1 year ago 3
@YaBoyShmoo right, information can never be destroyed ;)
pcvideogamer 1 year ago
this is so good
sweetchuck830 1 year ago
questo finale (musica ed immagini) è una delle cose più toccanti che la cinematografia mi abbia regalato.
asdkjahsdkjhasdkjh 2 years ago 16
uno dei miei miti d'infanzia
vidi anche powaqqatsi
con orchestra dal vivo diretta da.. non ricordo forse tilson thomas e la presenza di philip glass
ho anche il suo autografo.. forse da qualche parte
ma io non ho mai amatto glass veramente
haaden2bis 2 years ago
simply wonderful!...
csicskafasz 2 years ago 2
thx for the upload
zeldaenlink 3 years ago 5