92 Laser AWD vs. 95 Talon TSi

[brapboys503]

Turbo bricks rule

[bestlude]

dsm's are sweet cars.. dont think i would ever own one again though lol

[freeride6611]

hey where was this filmed??

[740turbobrick]

@freeride6611

On a closed course under close supervision of the NHRA with emergency medical crews standing by.......

or Route 11 south in Ashtabula....one of the two.

[sageninja123]

were watching both the same cars racing, only difference is the laser has a slight advantage b.c its lighter. idk what mods the cars have so im guessing there stock

[zkf900]

your in an eclipse yourself aren't you?

[740turbobrick]

If you mean me, then yes.

[farvejets4]

i love the trash talk about imports they last longer as daily drivers and when u want to have a race car its cheaper then american but cars are getting better in america dodge srt4 not to bad but u cant beat a cheap eclipse or honda

[krayola135]

honda is crap

[farvejets4]

well your the smartest person in the world but i doubt u drive cause all u do is troll all day and beat off in your parents basement

[JustinTheJMan]

@farvejets4 Thats just hilarious...

[gusu666]

The SRT-4 is a piece of shit what are you talking about?

[farvejets4]

the srt-4 is one of the cheapest cars with a decent power gain so no its not

[tpumpiscmibicv]

@farvejets4 The SRT4 is still a Neon at the end of the day.

[farvejets4]

@tpumpiscmibicv the srt4 is more like a pt cruiser is has the same motor just has a neon body but its all about bang for your buck

[tpumpiscmibicv]

@farvejets4 You want bang for your buck, the Neon is not the way to go lol

[JustinTheJMan]

@gusu666 Agreed!

[firewallx]

The engines on these POS cars were not designed for regular people. The timing belt will go out at 40k miles and will force you to buy a new engine/rebuild. The number of mechanics who know how to properly rebuild these engines is very small.

crankwalk is just a minor problem with these junk cars, losing a timing belt (sub $100 part) will cause you all sorts of problems.

[740turbobrick]

Hmm..Youre half right. They werent designed for regular people. They were designed for people who want to go fast in a 4 cylinder powered car. The timing belts have 60k maintenance schedules. Dont replace it by then, youre asking for it, but Ive seen cars beat the hell out of with 126k on the stock belt. If you want to talk about junk cars, why dont you sit down and look at some Dodge trucks/cars.

[qxserf]

@740turbobrick common man any real dsmer who love his car KNOW timing are essential ... ive got power entreprise kevlar belt for mine .... thats the shit ive paid 170 and they sold for 150 on ebay go get one

[godcreatedinfantry]

@740turbobrick now everyone is aware that a dodge neon has a 2.0 dohc 420a motor. the same motor that comes in the non turbo eclipse/talon. every car company has its good makes, everyone still in business that is, and a few out, deloreans we pretty sweet. ok not really but you get the point

[godcreatedinfantry]

@740turbobrick oh and a eclipse/talon is dsm, witch is dimond star motors, witch is chrysler product.

[740turbobrick]

@godcreatedinfantry

Half right again. Its part Chrysler, part Mitsubishi. You just said it yourself. Chrysler gave it such parts as shitty interiors, cheap clear coat, and cheap metal work. Mitsubishi supplied the power train, which is why they are more successful than a Neon. Im a DSMer and Im willing to accept all this, Im sure all the others are too.

[DSMDriver69]

@firewallx haha wow you really are a fucking moron. Why are you watching a videow with two cars you apparently hate?

[tt051984]

you must be retarded. I've had four of these lasers and never had a problem with a motor except the lifter knock they all get. very depenable

[CYB117]

@firewallx you do realize that the 4g63's are one of the most feared 4 cylinders ever made right? and the belt wont go bad at 40k miles adn they are not hard to work on your such a tool

[Weazell]

@CYB117 Feared? Who the fuck "fears" a car? What a ricer way to word something. I think you've been watching too much F&F. You're not racing for your life or some shit

[CYB117]

@Weazell idnt mean literally bro its a 4 cylinder that is capable of 1400hp thats unheard of in most 4 cylinders thats all im saying

[Weazell]

@CYB117 Some people mean it literally and take this shit WAY to seriously. A car is a car, respect 'em, have fun, w.e. It's those diehard fans that are physically up in arms when someone looks at a Honda the wrong way or makes a Ford joke

[Num1shark]

@firewallx Your right they are a pos. I got a old eclipse in storage that is on its 3rd engine, because of belt problems. I have a 97 saturn that we just use when it snows. Both cars have 190,000 miles. The saturn has the original engine and could bet the eclipse in a race from day one. Very sad, I one day said screw it and thats why I drive a 300C, no worries now. The eclipse can rust for all I care.

[dankebuddha]

@Num1shark theirs 2 different engines in the 1g's the 1.8 and the 2.0 the 1.8 is a craptastic motor and as far as the 2.0 it currently powers the worlds fastest 4 cylinder at 6.8@201 the 2.0 is a beast of a motor you just gotta take car of your car and if you think regular maintenance is a hassle wait til that 300 c breaks theirs a reason everybody returned those 300's

[Num1shark]

@dankebuddha I have the 2.0 but the problem is the replacement engine at Japanese imports where I live gave me a Cheap'o Hyundai engine. Same engine just shitty made parts. I had to pull the engine out and rebuild it after a test run. Plus is a GS automatic so its just a slow pile of crap, lol. But i got it to save gas originally, not to race. I have a 240Z that I'm working on right now. I have owned my 300c for 2 years, no problems with my hemi at all. Daily driver.

[dankebuddha]

@Num1shark ya those auto's are really craptastin the manny's get better millage and the 5.7 hemi is crap i have work on at least 7 that have come into the shop i work at running like chit completely tore them down and put it back together ran even worse sent all 7 to dodge and they couldn't fix it either the only good thing dodge sells is the diesel Cummings but the chevy is the best diesel on the market now

[Num1shark]

@dankebuddha I do agree with you that Chevy makes the best diesel's. I have never had a problem with the 5.7. I didnt go with the SRT because there is a gas guzzler tax on it, and the 5.7 makes more trq when trubo or super charged. The only trouble you have to look for is to keep track of your oil and temps. So many people forget to warm the block up before driving or they let the temps get to high. Most of the hemi's with problems are in the dodge rams.

[ineedmorebass]

@Num1shark the saturn beat the eclipse??? is your eclipse non turbo? if it is then theres your problem, the n/a eclipse is a PILE of shit. if that eclipse is turbo and got beaten by the saturn than i honestly dont know what to say, im amazed.

[Num1shark]

@ineedmorebass The eclipse is a n/a 4g63. We didn't go for the turbo because I'd much rather spend my money on my other cars. The Saturn has upgraded cams to shift at higher rpm's. It made a fun little daily driver. I've had problems with the censors because the excess heat. I have 2 project Nissan's that I'm working on now. So the eclipse will probably never be converted over to a turbo or awd.

[Graham987654]

@ineedmorebass what saturn are you taking about

[bigboy45454545]

Which car won!

The piece of shit, or the other piece of shit?

[740turbobrick]

Thats funny,...you must drive a Chevy?

[brapboys503]

@740turbobrick Lol hey dude I'm completely unbiased, but you drive a Volvo. I'd rather own 10 dead ass Chevy's with no engines than one Swedish electrical hazard on wheels. I do like the old school 144's though.

[740turbobrick]

@brapboys503 From TBricks rule to youd rather own a Normal Chevy (lol) than a "electrical hazard on wheels"? No offense taken, but I dont even have one anymore. That was my first car. I drive the Eclipse now.

[brapboys503]

@740turbobrick Yes I would. I drive a 1970 Datsun PL521 pickup with a cammed-out L20B. My pickup smokes any factory Volvo. I like Volvos for their durability and reliability, but unless you rewire the whole vehicle, it WILL develop bad electrical issues.

[JustinTheJMan]

@bigboy45454545 I don't agree with the chevy part by turbo brick but I find it funny that you probably drive some little corolla but here you are talking shit about a car you've never owned so you don't know how many modified cars these stock Rs's can beat the crap out of.

[Blondets1]

I love how the chase car has trouble keeping up with both of them

[740turbobrick]

Not anymore he doesnt! ;)

[callofdutyscout32]

i had a 94 gst before it and it ran fine as well with 135000 miles. the simple fact is, the 7 bolt motor is fine unless you want to race your car. once you start running bigger turbos, and different iternals and your running like 400+ horsepower thats when the engine become prone to damage as far as the crank, pistons, valves, rods etc are involved. that is when i would prefer a 6 bolt. as far as everyday and even some spirited driving goes, a 7 bolt is fine

[VolkswagenForLyfe]

dsm power in one air tight glass here.

[ok333]

are the 94's reliable?

[740turbobrick]

That depends on alot of things, mostly Previous owner history. If it was taken care of, they are reliable. If you get some chode that thinks he knows what hes doing, and fucks it all up, then theres a good chance it will break down often. Also, the more you build it, the more things you could possibly break.

[Devilbat]

would not waste time on a 94 ....7 bolt. 91 to 92 only

only deal with a 2G 7 bolt if you like hte body style better...than do the 6 bolt swap

[zmadman210]

i used to have a 93 with a 7 bolt. i blew it up and bought a rebuilt 6 bolt.

[Devilbat]

exactly

[phatyj]

exactly? lol im sure people blow up 6 bolts just as much as 7's. ive blown up inline 6 2jz's . doesnt mean there pussy engines? jus depends on if u know how to maintane your car.

[Devilbat]

crankwalk

[callofdutyscout32]

crankwalk can happen to any motor. the 7 bolt is a reliable engine as long as it is maintained and built correctly. they break for 2 reasons; 1. they have the shit drove out of them by some dumb kid or 2. they are not built properly. i have 300 hp in my 99 eclipse gst and it has 150000 miles and its daily driven and it runs PERFECT. simply because i maintain it and don't abuse it. that doesnt mean i wont get into it every now and then though.

[Devilbat]

99 was the best year for 2nd gens in terms of not crankwalking

[JTmagicman24]

90 also good and only run 7bolt if it's an automatic. No stress on thrust at all. 7 bolt blocks and main girdles are stronger.  They just used lighter crank and rods that can't handle as much boost. good to about 350 hp and after that, boom.

[mlite2go]

no. i had 1, 90 is better

[ok333]

alright, thanks.

[itsallmeNWH]

the camera guy should have a faster car

[DnzBoy07]

lolol

[xtina2229]

the camera guy is he driving a talon or a eclipse >?????

[740turbobrick]

Its an Eclipse, theres more videos of me driving it, look at my profile.

[POTFEST101]

im pretty sure thats a 90, 91 laser, unless he changed his, the 92 doesnt have the light bar, or popup headlights, and that looks exactly like mine(i got a 90)

[740turbobrick]

No, its a 92. It doesnt have pop up headlights. And by light bar do you mean the wing? His car had alot of stuff normal lasers didnt. It did not have one badge on it saying what it was either. Could only tell by the title.

[jeffatbeach]

so it doesn't have the popup headlights? So its prob not a 90 or 91 then. Either you had the tailights changed to look like a 90 or 91 or the previous owner did it. If you do a research on the first gen Laser,Eclipses, Talons. They changed the body style a bit from 92-94. A typical 92 laser has a different rear from yours. Google one, youll see what I mean.

[740turbobrick]

I know all about DSMs, I have many pictures of them, I am aware of 1ga, 1gb, 2ga and 2gb stylings. This is a 92 laser RS Turbo AWD. I have 3 pictures of lasers right here that look exactly like this one, and a pic of a 1ga laser that looks different in the rear. The only thing changed on this car was the Talon-style 3 piece wing, a mitsu front bumper and it was debadged.

[masterstevenson440]

Yes yes he smoked me TOO bad his car never ran right after this day :)

[740turbobrick]

lol yep, after this it was missing and blowing headgaskets. That 14b had some spool though..

[zipzopj]

that does not look like a 92.

[740turbobrick]

What does it look like? Its a 92 Laser RS. 1st gen obviously.

[xnaxionx]

laser owned the TSI lolz

[djdeadman666]

is that the talon matt is selling?

-max

[740turbobrick]

Hey max you found it. yea thats the one hes selling.

[djdeadman666]

that i did, for i am crafty....well that and i have no life...quite sad really

[colsgirl]

i think matt won :P