Oh, look, Air New Zealand staff from the hub have learnt how to flame Zeal crew on youtube. These must be the same people who ran away from Hamilton so a foreign airline could have it. Pity you shut down Freedom.
Obviously you dont really read much, i dont work at the hub nor do i live in NZ. If you read the comments, it will obviously hint the fact that im based in the pacific islands and if you were smart, you wont even think of trashing the pacific island stations!
Im not against Zeal, i understand your situation, i just think its wrong timing thats all guys. Shucks you guys are getting NZD9000 more than what we get a year but we are just waiting for the right time. But you know what, if you guys succeed, then good on you and well done...All the best.
You guys think you're been treated unfairly, you have no idea how we get treated yet we wear the same uniform, just like you, we do the exact same job as a travel centre does in Auckland, our check in staff, who do the exact same job as NZ, employed directly by AirNZ, and we get nothing. Standard or cost of living here is higher than our pay! you dont see us kicking a fuss, why because we are damn lucky to even have the job, and during this time, its just not the best time to be asking.
Well here is what i got to say, so Michael may have been misinformed, but he still raises a point, isnt it better to have a job and actually get a pay than to screw over the hand that feeds you? And so AirNZ made a huge profit, does it mean we can just splash out on pay rises, what if the economy gets worse, what do we to fall back on. We got the aircraft fuel to think about, there are alot of things that need to be considered. Just because we made a profit doesnt mean a raise.
We here in the pacific are sitting here watching and looking at how you guys are behaving, especially when you land on our shores dressed ridiculously, you're so lucky you havent been laid off. Rob Fyfe is awesome and is doing his best to keep us all in a job. They all know our salary situation but what in the world do you expect them to do, AirNZ does not have the money! I think Zeal is damn lucky AirNZ took them on when Freedom Air went bust!!
Air New Zealand made a profit of $78 million last year. There is more than sufficient money even in a recession to address the inequity between Zeal crew and other Air NZ staff.
Out of curiosity, if you believe that the employees should get handouts whenever the airline makes a profit, would it also be fair for the employees to have to pay out money when the airline makes a loss?
Also, for the people who have their Super Annuation invested in AirNZ stock, would it be fair on them if you took all the company profits, and then handed those profits to the employees?
Until you start handing out money for nothing, you are in no position to ask another to
We work hard, we put our hearts into our job and we love our job. We've moaned and groaned about it but we know very well that we arent gonna get a pay rise to be in line with the staff in NZ because its just not the right time to be asking. AirNZ is struggling as it is. Come on Zeal, you're not the only ones and think about it, and actually think about some of the points michaelnz40 has mentioned because it makes a lot sense.
Michael is misinfomed. The company figures he is quoting are false. Zeal crew start on around $28,000 a year plus allowances. They are not paid anywhere near the brackets he quotes.
As the crew have said, if the company is willing to offer that much they would sign on the dotted line today.
If you wish to get informed about the Zeal dispute there is more information on the EPMU website.
I mean the world is going through an economic crisis at present, airlines across the globe are laying of workers and even grounding a few of there aircrafts and like Michaelnz40 says, Zeal is pretty damn lucky to even have a job. Zeal think they are getting crap pay? Try being an AirNZ staff member in the pacific islands who do the exact same job as all the other staff in NZ and we are the lowest paid in the industry!
Rob Fyfe has just said in his weekly blog that things are starting to look not so good for Air NZ financially with the current economic climate. He was saying that he hopes to avoid any redundancies, and is looking at ways to cut costs.
With such a situation at the moment I'd say these ZEAL 320 crew are lucky to have jobs, as am I. To get through this we're going to have to all help the company save money, otherwise people will lose jobs.
Michael, as a general rule you would also be advised not to take everything the company tells you on faith.
Last year Air NZ made a profit of $78 million. Rob Fyfe himself recently received a pay rise of 93%. There is more than sufficient money to address the unfairness at Zeal, even in a recession.
If you wish to inform yourself about the dispute before commenting further visit the EPMU website or call 0800 1 UNION.
And may I ask why I should take anything the EPMU tells me on faith?
The pay rise you talk about Rob Fyfe getting was actually an overall pay decrease because the performance incentive part of his pay was reduced due to company performance.
Yes, Air NZ made a profit last year, and that'll be needed to get us through these tough economic times, because right now they're losing money. If it got bad enough, I'd rather take a pay cut than have the company collapse and lose my job all together.
The raise Rob Fyfe got was prize money he received from the "Sexiest Businessman in NZ" that was happening earlier on in the month. I dont think Rob is that stupid to advertise that he is getting a raise while we all watch and suffer. he won that fair and square and so he should. Good on you Rob!!!
The Air NZ Tasman routes that Zeal cabin crew work on struggle to make a profit. If the pay of Zeal cabin crew is increased too much then the chances are that Air NZ will stop flying those routes as theyd become too unprofitable, and all these Zeal crew would be out of a job. I know I'd much rather have less pay and a job, than to keep pushing, and screw over the hand that feeds me.
All of these Zeal cabin crew accepted their job offers with the conditions theyre on now. If theyve now decided that they dont like them anymore then they should quit and find another job.
The pay theyre asking for is the same as that of long haul cabin crew, a different, more demanding job. $40,000-$60,000 a year for a 30 hour week is a very reasonable wage. Someone working that hourly rate but doing a normal 40 hour week would be earning $53,333-$80,000.
Michael, you are misinfomed. The company figures you are quoting are false. Zeal crew start on around $28,000 a year plus allowances. They are not paid anywhere near the brackets you quote.
As the crew have said, if the company is willing to offer that much they would sign on the dotted line today.
If you wish to get informed about the dispute there is more information on the EPMU website.
In the months, year to come, after the Zeal crew win their day in the Employment Court I hope every New Zealander, including those gutless morons at the Hub, hangs their head in shame for not supporting you. Like people who turned their backs on Jews in Germany.
What Air NZ are doing here is just plain wrong. As majority shareholders we, the NZ public should all contact our MPs and demand something be done for these workers. They are being exploited, plain and simple.
Oh, look, Air New Zealand staff from the hub have learnt how to flame Zeal crew on youtube. These must be the same people who ran away from Hamilton so a foreign airline could have it. Pity you shut down Freedom.
cutthecrapp 2 years ago
I don't work at The Hub you moron. I work at the coal face.
And with flying internationally from Hamilton, if that route doesnt make a profit despite every effort to do so, why keep flying it?
If you want to have international flights out of Hamilton then start up your own airline and do it yourself.
michaelnz40 2 years ago
Obviously you dont really read much, i dont work at the hub nor do i live in NZ. If you read the comments, it will obviously hint the fact that im based in the pacific islands and if you were smart, you wont even think of trashing the pacific island stations!
2008MAMBO 2 years ago
Im not against Zeal, i understand your situation, i just think its wrong timing thats all guys. Shucks you guys are getting NZD9000 more than what we get a year but we are just waiting for the right time. But you know what, if you guys succeed, then good on you and well done...All the best.
2008MAMBO 2 years ago
You guys think you're been treated unfairly, you have no idea how we get treated yet we wear the same uniform, just like you, we do the exact same job as a travel centre does in Auckland, our check in staff, who do the exact same job as NZ, employed directly by AirNZ, and we get nothing. Standard or cost of living here is higher than our pay! you dont see us kicking a fuss, why because we are damn lucky to even have the job, and during this time, its just not the best time to be asking.
2008MAMBO 2 years ago
Well here is what i got to say, so Michael may have been misinformed, but he still raises a point, isnt it better to have a job and actually get a pay than to screw over the hand that feeds you? And so AirNZ made a huge profit, does it mean we can just splash out on pay rises, what if the economy gets worse, what do we to fall back on. We got the aircraft fuel to think about, there are alot of things that need to be considered. Just because we made a profit doesnt mean a raise.
2008MAMBO 2 years ago
We here in the pacific are sitting here watching and looking at how you guys are behaving, especially when you land on our shores dressed ridiculously, you're so lucky you havent been laid off. Rob Fyfe is awesome and is doing his best to keep us all in a job. They all know our salary situation but what in the world do you expect them to do, AirNZ does not have the money! I think Zeal is damn lucky AirNZ took them on when Freedom Air went bust!!
2008MAMBO 2 years ago
Air New Zealand made a profit of $78 million last year. There is more than sufficient money even in a recession to address the inequity between Zeal crew and other Air NZ staff.
NZAEPMU 2 years ago
@NZAEPMU
Out of curiosity, if you believe that the employees should get handouts whenever the airline makes a profit, would it also be fair for the employees to have to pay out money when the airline makes a loss?
Also, for the people who have their Super Annuation invested in AirNZ stock, would it be fair on them if you took all the company profits, and then handed those profits to the employees?
Until you start handing out money for nothing, you are in no position to ask another to
bigredtaxi 1 year ago
We work hard, we put our hearts into our job and we love our job. We've moaned and groaned about it but we know very well that we arent gonna get a pay rise to be in line with the staff in NZ because its just not the right time to be asking. AirNZ is struggling as it is. Come on Zeal, you're not the only ones and think about it, and actually think about some of the points michaelnz40 has mentioned because it makes a lot sense.
2008MAMBO 2 years ago
Michael is misinfomed. The company figures he is quoting are false. Zeal crew start on around $28,000 a year plus allowances. They are not paid anywhere near the brackets he quotes.
As the crew have said, if the company is willing to offer that much they would sign on the dotted line today.
If you wish to get informed about the Zeal dispute there is more information on the EPMU website.
NZAEPMU 2 years ago
I mean the world is going through an economic crisis at present, airlines across the globe are laying of workers and even grounding a few of there aircrafts and like Michaelnz40 says, Zeal is pretty damn lucky to even have a job. Zeal think they are getting crap pay? Try being an AirNZ staff member in the pacific islands who do the exact same job as all the other staff in NZ and we are the lowest paid in the industry!
2008MAMBO 2 years ago
Rob Fyfe has just said in his weekly blog that things are starting to look not so good for Air NZ financially with the current economic climate. He was saying that he hopes to avoid any redundancies, and is looking at ways to cut costs.
With such a situation at the moment I'd say these ZEAL 320 crew are lucky to have jobs, as am I. To get through this we're going to have to all help the company save money, otherwise people will lose jobs.
This isn't the way to go.
michaelnz40 2 years ago
Michael, as a general rule you would also be advised not to take everything the company tells you on faith.
Last year Air NZ made a profit of $78 million. Rob Fyfe himself recently received a pay rise of 93%. There is more than sufficient money to address the unfairness at Zeal, even in a recession.
If you wish to inform yourself about the dispute before commenting further visit the EPMU website or call 0800 1 UNION.
NZAEPMU 2 years ago
And may I ask why I should take anything the EPMU tells me on faith?
The pay rise you talk about Rob Fyfe getting was actually an overall pay decrease because the performance incentive part of his pay was reduced due to company performance.
Yes, Air NZ made a profit last year, and that'll be needed to get us through these tough economic times, because right now they're losing money. If it got bad enough, I'd rather take a pay cut than have the company collapse and lose my job all together.
michaelnz40 2 years ago
The raise Rob Fyfe got was prize money he received from the "Sexiest Businessman in NZ" that was happening earlier on in the month. I dont think Rob is that stupid to advertise that he is getting a raise while we all watch and suffer. he won that fair and square and so he should. Good on you Rob!!!
2008MAMBO 2 years ago
Well done Rach :) Trevor would be very proud... Trace x PS - BEST service on my NZ804 flight on Sunday! GIVE THEM THE BLOODY PAY RISE!
smokatron 2 years ago
The Air NZ Tasman routes that Zeal cabin crew work on struggle to make a profit. If the pay of Zeal cabin crew is increased too much then the chances are that Air NZ will stop flying those routes as theyd become too unprofitable, and all these Zeal crew would be out of a job. I know I'd much rather have less pay and a job, than to keep pushing, and screw over the hand that feeds me.
michaelnz40 2 years ago
All of these Zeal cabin crew accepted their job offers with the conditions theyre on now. If theyve now decided that they dont like them anymore then they should quit and find another job.
The pay theyre asking for is the same as that of long haul cabin crew, a different, more demanding job. $40,000-$60,000 a year for a 30 hour week is a very reasonable wage. Someone working that hourly rate but doing a normal 40 hour week would be earning $53,333-$80,000.
michaelnz40 2 years ago
ur a d-bag
aresthegreat69 2 years ago
Michael, you are misinfomed. The company figures you are quoting are false. Zeal crew start on around $28,000 a year plus allowances. They are not paid anywhere near the brackets you quote.
As the crew have said, if the company is willing to offer that much they would sign on the dotted line today.
If you wish to get informed about the dispute there is more information on the EPMU website.
NZAEPMU 2 years ago
Thumbs up Rach!!
saturnskys 2 years ago
Is there anyone in the country who thinks they are being payed enough?
Simonsoulsby 2 years ago
In the months, year to come, after the Zeal crew win their day in the Employment Court I hope every New Zealander, including those gutless morons at the Hub, hangs their head in shame for not supporting you. Like people who turned their backs on Jews in Germany.
cutthecrapp 2 years ago
Glad to see someone knowing what they're talking about, representing the people.
hachicontrol 2 years ago
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flyredrocket 2 years ago
What Air NZ are doing here is just plain wrong. As majority shareholders we, the NZ public should all contact our MPs and demand something be done for these workers. They are being exploited, plain and simple.
darrenwatsonband 2 years ago