was is the point to make a new Version of the movie with no diffrance at all ? both of the movie have the some Scene the same Dialogue and the same character.
I feel something (most things) just work better in the original.. The atmosphere. Look at the shots.. They are not the same.. Compare the total shot of dad and son in the boat, notice the horizon and the sizes compared to the a little bit more "overwhelming" looks of the original. This way I feel the original works better, like the family is more trapped.. In the remake it seemed easier getting help etc. When the neighbours come sailing etc. Something felt more hopeless in the original.. imo.
Yeah, both Naomi and Roth was good, and the killers too. Guess I was just more creeped out by the original than the remake.. Also the original looks warmer, with more yellow lights than blue cold lights. Which was a better contrast to the cold killers' actions imo. The remake is good though! Just not as good as the original=p
Like seriously? Only the 97' is a masterpiece? Stop quoting bad reviews and judge for yourself - the 2007 had OUTSTANDING performances. While the 97' version was really good, the 2007 is a level above. That is if you can handle the slow-paced action. Some simple-minded whackaloons can't. Sorry for being offensive... not.
The original actress seemed more dedicated and into it than Naomi Watts (check out the last scene in the house, when they start stabbing her husband, that's shock in her eyes, it was more just despise in Watts' expressions).
I also think that all the other actors worked better in the original, and believe me I wanted to love the remake as much as the original, cause I liked getting this great movie with fresher visuals etc. It's still good. And finally, unimaginative lazy Americans can watch it.
@Nutplucker Ouch man. :< Hurt my little heart here. We're not all that lazy. Just....a majority. I really enjoyed the 97 myself, haven't seen the 2007 one.
SBV123. I think people that saw the original will always side with the original as that was funny games to them! Just like me I side with this one, mainly cus it,s in my language and because I saw this first!
@ANFproducerOfficial if someone prefers the english version b/c of the language and actors then how can the 97 version be more of a masterpiece? to me the 07 version is a maserpiece simply b/c im getting the same great movie by the same director only with actors i prefer and in a language i speak. i can only understand your point if you watched the 97 version first and was completely satisfied with it. if that's the case then 07 movie shouldn't have even grabbed your attention.
@SBV123 I allways think it is because most americans can not be botherd to read Subs on a movie. thats why you get so many remakes like Ringu, Dark water and most recently Girl with the dragon tattoo.
Honestly, this is just a modern exploitation movie. It's about grisly murders enacted by home invaders, and then trying to throw in a "message to society" to make it look classier than it is. Messed up stuff here.
Paul's wink in the 1997 version is godly, and he has the most soothing voice. What I did with this movie was turn the "message" back on itself and root for the killers the whole time. It's not hard in the 1997 version, because the killers are charismatic and have wonderful facial expressions, whereas in the U.S. version they act like preppy pricks. And I sat that as an American viewer
@MrWeasley1 I just don't feel the same. Of course, I may be biased because I adore Michael Pitt. His performance is what I love most about this film and it is definitely Michael Pitt that compells me to watch this film over and over.
Are you disturbed by the realism of this movie at all? Just about everyone who's seen it is, but I can't really take it very seriously. There's a real element of black humor.
@MrWeasley1 The first time, I was shocked, disturbed, uncomfortable and surprised at how much I loved it, (except for the dog...I can handle human death in a film, but NEVER an animal). I have now viewed this film about 25 times and I find myself intrigued by the "proper English" used by Paul and Peter. I find much of it to be, as you mentioned, black humor.
My biggest problem with this movie is that it was so outrageously slow. I understand that the writer was sending a message that society liking to watch violence is messed up, but at least make it entertaining for the viewers. It would make them feel more guilty once they figured out the message of the movie.
Although they seem to be very similar, the actors make a huge difference, and the remake went at a much faster pace. Americans seem to have a hard time watching things that are slower and more drawn out, which is why the original is much better it really brings more suspense and reality to the movie.
This whole anti-American bullshit for the sake of being anti-American is just fucking annoying already. The 2007 remake is a frame-by-frame remake. Same scenes, different language and actors. Nothing is more "drawn out".
Wrap your sophisticated mind around that you sorry fuck.
The 1997 version is by far the best. There's just no point of comparison between Naomi Watts and Susane Lothar, and Ulrich Mühe is one of the best actors in the history of film. Fucking remakes. If I had seen only the american trailer I would've never seen the film. Thank God I watched the original first.
It's impossible to compare the 2 movies. The 1st one you watch is going to stick with you more, as the 2nd will be the "remake" in your mind (if you get me) and it'll be impossible to watch without comparing it to the first one you saw...
The movies make you stop and realize just how screwed up this world is. You can't even go ask your neighbor for some eggs without fear of being killed. It was interesting and it killed time. No pun intended.
This should teach people to still have land-line phones and not just cell phones. The takes her sweet time getting outside, more concerned with the cell phone, and then when she finally does get her ass outside she screams for help. It made her look stupid as if they were asking for it., i.e., "She might as well screamed, "Oh killers I'm over here, but please don't come to hurt or kill me!"
Geeze, at least, fight and die while trying to survive. Husband was a wimp. Oh, yes, tell your wife to take off her clothes "honey." Should have listened to their dog. Usually, dogs don't bark like that unless something's wrong. Animals are smart and warn us humans many times and we ignore them.
@ryanmanawesome God yes I agree. This movie was never meant to be a horror one, but it was so damn realistic and scary I almost fainted when watching it. Now I always double check the Goddamn front door...
What is disturbingfinally is to read people 's comments here.they seem unaware the film is realy aboutThem and theinhuman standardswe have created .thisstuff is happeningeveryday . a laugh instead of discussing WHY these movies are made and how we can change the dangerous climate we live in.Why Haneke remake?
since the woman stabbed in 1967New York while people heard from their windows We can no longer be kindtostrangers.conventions.the child is the first to die.the movie on somany levels
@ArnyRecords its hard for me to explain exactly by a comment....to sum it up its to show how all people watch on tv and movies is violence....if u want a more detailed answer check out reviews of this movie i think some might say what the point is, that supported this movie :)
damn theyre exactly the same. he rly planned the shots to a tee. i just saw the 2007 version and it's the scariest movie i've ever seen. It's so not mainstream horror or nothing like that. No scary images just a real mindfuck. Don't watch it if you're easily disturbed but again it's not like there are scary images
i like that the 2007 one wasnt as serious and it was more silly. it makes the two killers look a lot more sadistic, just toying around with the family and having fun with it and just messing around. idk if i were to be a serial killer i would try and be something similar to the kids in the 07 version.
I think the 2007 version was purposely made a bit less malicious and was designed to operate as more of a social commentary than a horror flick (which it certainly isn't, by any stretch of the imagination.)
I really thought for a moment the guy who played Peter er tubby er tom or whatever they called him lol was Ryder Strong. Then I figured out it was Brady Corbet. The dude who plays the brother in the movie Thirteen!
the only thing i liked about the remake better than the original is that you feel more hatred towards the killers, while in the original the killers seem less violent and enjoyable than they really are even though the exact same things happen..
I saw the newer one before i had heard of the 1997 and I loved it. But now that I realize there is another one an "original" i'll be sure to check it out.
the 97 version makes more sense because the actor the main bad guy calls fatty....is fat....but the guy the main bad guy calls tubby in the 08 version...isnt tubby
was is the point to make a new Version of the movie with no diffrance at all ? both of the movie have the some Scene the same Dialogue and the same character.
razmw 1 month ago
I feel something (most things) just work better in the original.. The atmosphere. Look at the shots.. They are not the same.. Compare the total shot of dad and son in the boat, notice the horizon and the sizes compared to the a little bit more "overwhelming" looks of the original. This way I feel the original works better, like the family is more trapped.. In the remake it seemed easier getting help etc. When the neighbours come sailing etc. Something felt more hopeless in the original.. imo.
Nutplucker 2 months ago
Yeah, both Naomi and Roth was good, and the killers too. Guess I was just more creeped out by the original than the remake.. Also the original looks warmer, with more yellow lights than blue cold lights. Which was a better contrast to the cold killers' actions imo. The remake is good though! Just not as good as the original=p
Nutplucker 2 months ago
This movie is one of the best scarey/creepy movies ever. Never knew there was a 1997 version
prisma608 3 months ago
Like seriously? Only the 97' is a masterpiece? Stop quoting bad reviews and judge for yourself - the 2007 had OUTSTANDING performances. While the 97' version was really good, the 2007 is a level above. That is if you can handle the slow-paced action. Some simple-minded whackaloons can't. Sorry for being offensive... not.
Zenon666ification 3 months ago
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Nutplucker 3 months ago
The original actress seemed more dedicated and into it than Naomi Watts (check out the last scene in the house, when they start stabbing her husband, that's shock in her eyes, it was more just despise in Watts' expressions).
I also think that all the other actors worked better in the original, and believe me I wanted to love the remake as much as the original, cause I liked getting this great movie with fresher visuals etc. It's still good. And finally, unimaginative lazy Americans can watch it.
Nutplucker 3 months ago
@Nutplucker Ouch man. :< Hurt my little heart here. We're not all that lazy. Just....a majority. I really enjoyed the 97 myself, haven't seen the 2007 one.
JMetalify 3 months ago
@Nutplucker Does the original require more effort than the remake?
As an American I watched both and enjoyed them both. I don't understand your comment at all.
RJhasFLOW 2 months ago
Österreichisches Meisterwerk
buringvaLentine 6 months ago 2
1997 is fucking MASTERPIECE!!!!!
Brollyhero99TOP10 6 months ago
SBV123. I think people that saw the original will always side with the original as that was funny games to them! Just like me I side with this one, mainly cus it,s in my language and because I saw this first!
Matthew9818 6 months ago 2
one is in english and the other isn't
jigsaw99 6 months ago
The two films are exactly the same. If you dispute this, then you are saying that Haneke failed. Which he didn't.
Nitruix 6 months ago 4
I prefer the 2007 film :3
voidlam 7 months ago 2
can someone tell me why the 97' is a masterpiece but the 07' isn't? i've watched them both and they're virtually identical.
SBV123 7 months ago 8
@SBV123
97' is a masterpiece because of the idea, it is an original
the one from 07' is - you said it - just a copy ... with other actors and in english ^^
ANFproducerOfficial 4 months ago
@ANFproducerOfficial if someone prefers the english version b/c of the language and actors then how can the 97 version be more of a masterpiece? to me the 07 version is a maserpiece simply b/c im getting the same great movie by the same director only with actors i prefer and in a language i speak. i can only understand your point if you watched the 97 version first and was completely satisfied with it. if that's the case then 07 movie shouldn't have even grabbed your attention.
SBV123 4 months ago 2
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alki00000 2 months ago
@SBV123 one word: acting
maqusss 1 month ago
@SBV123 I allways think it is because most americans can not be botherd to read Subs on a movie. thats why you get so many remakes like Ringu, Dark water and most recently Girl with the dragon tattoo.
vixchan 2 weeks ago
Honestly, this is just a modern exploitation movie. It's about grisly murders enacted by home invaders, and then trying to throw in a "message to society" to make it look classier than it is. Messed up stuff here.
Also, Tim Roth is a horrible actor.
WarGreyDan 8 months ago
Paul's wink in the 1997 version is godly, and he has the most soothing voice. What I did with this movie was turn the "message" back on itself and root for the killers the whole time. It's not hard in the 1997 version, because the killers are charismatic and have wonderful facial expressions, whereas in the U.S. version they act like preppy pricks. And I sat that as an American viewer
MrWeasley1 9 months ago
@MrWeasley1 I just don't feel the same. Of course, I may be biased because I adore Michael Pitt. His performance is what I love most about this film and it is definitely Michael Pitt that compells me to watch this film over and over.
iamcasihart 7 months ago
@iamcasihart
Are you disturbed by the realism of this movie at all? Just about everyone who's seen it is, but I can't really take it very seriously. There's a real element of black humor.
MrWeasley1 7 months ago
@MrWeasley1 The first time, I was shocked, disturbed, uncomfortable and surprised at how much I loved it, (except for the dog...I can handle human death in a film, but NEVER an animal). I have now viewed this film about 25 times and I find myself intrigued by the "proper English" used by Paul and Peter. I find much of it to be, as you mentioned, black humor.
iamcasihart 7 months ago
My biggest problem with this movie is that it was so outrageously slow. I understand that the writer was sending a message that society liking to watch violence is messed up, but at least make it entertaining for the viewers. It would make them feel more guilty once they figured out the message of the movie.
NextGenerasionCinema 11 months ago
one of the best horror film ever......and terribul dialogues
George: Why are you doing this to us? Paul: Why not?
TheYorker123 1 year ago 3
Although they seem to be very similar, the actors make a huge difference, and the remake went at a much faster pace. Americans seem to have a hard time watching things that are slower and more drawn out, which is why the original is much better it really brings more suspense and reality to the movie.
adirtysunset 1 year ago
@adirtysunset Speak for yourself, asshole.
This whole anti-American bullshit for the sake of being anti-American is just fucking annoying already. The 2007 remake is a frame-by-frame remake. Same scenes, different language and actors. Nothing is more "drawn out".
Wrap your sophisticated mind around that you sorry fuck.
RJhasFLOW 2 months ago
The 1997 version is by far the best. There's just no point of comparison between Naomi Watts and Susane Lothar, and Ulrich Mühe is one of the best actors in the history of film. Fucking remakes. If I had seen only the american trailer I would've never seen the film. Thank God I watched the original first.
YannickBautista 1 year ago
i felt for the doggies in the movies
sphyco4everMV 1 year ago
whats the piece of music that starts at 34 seconds?
zigityno2 1 year ago
@zigityno2 "Bonehead", by Naked City.
thewickedrobot 1 year ago
@zigityno2 It's a faster version of "Dovregubbens Hall" or "In the Hall of the Mountain King" by Edvard Grieg :)
THIWHU 9 months ago
The 1997 version is better because of Ulrich Mühe. Isn't he such a great actor?
maddio14 1 year ago 3
YES!! And every single character in 1997 version is fantastic (even those who appear for anly few scenes)
hendersonhasselbalch 1 year ago
the 2007 one was really REALLY shitty. is the '97 version any better?
SilverFoxSPK 1 year ago
It's impossible to compare the 2 movies. The 1st one you watch is going to stick with you more, as the 2nd will be the "remake" in your mind (if you get me) and it'll be impossible to watch without comparing it to the first one you saw...
seanyboyrebel 1 year ago 2
i own the original, but im kind of glad that michael haneke didnt change anything in the american remake.
love both of them.
TheMoparist 1 year ago
I love and own both films, but I personally prefer the remake.
RYANL22 1 year ago
1997 is better
killerblautzen 1 year ago
Bullshit
rapp1993 1 year ago
The movies make you stop and realize just how screwed up this world is. You can't even go ask your neighbor for some eggs without fear of being killed. It was interesting and it killed time. No pun intended.
AlexisAlways1 1 year ago
@AlexisAlways1
I've just read all 3 of your comments, something tells me you're trying to provoke a response, no?
seanyboyrebel 1 year ago
@seanyboyrebel No, I wasn't. Everyone has their own opinions.
AlexisAlways1 1 year ago
@AlexisAlways1
You missed the point of the movie, then.
leafsoup 1 year ago
This should teach people to still have land-line phones and not just cell phones. The takes her sweet time getting outside, more concerned with the cell phone, and then when she finally does get her ass outside she screams for help. It made her look stupid as if they were asking for it., i.e., "She might as well screamed, "Oh killers I'm over here, but please don't come to hurt or kill me!"
AlexisAlways1 1 year ago
Geeze, at least, fight and die while trying to survive. Husband was a wimp. Oh, yes, tell your wife to take off her clothes "honey." Should have listened to their dog. Usually, dogs don't bark like that unless something's wrong. Animals are smart and warn us humans many times and we ignore them.
AlexisAlways1 1 year ago
fucking remakes
Moschusochse 1 year ago
This movie is really fucked up, its one of those things that can seriously happen and what not, thats whats fucked up about the movie
ryanmanawesome 1 year ago
@ryanmanawesome God yes I agree. This movie was never meant to be a horror one, but it was so damn realistic and scary I almost fainted when watching it. Now I always double check the Goddamn front door...
chaosraveali 1 year ago 4
@ryanmanawesome Yeah, like the korean movie "Black house" Insurance murderer....scary shit.
sniperxr 1 year ago
@ryanmanawesome Thank you. That's my point.
AlexisAlways1 1 year ago
1997 by a landslide.
roachy333 2 years ago
introduction trailer copy paste ?
juande92sk 2 years ago
two wicked mentaly sick movies xD
Svenzoid 2 years ago
fuck that. the actors prettiness doesnt make any difference on the movie. the first one is much better, actually.
vanvicuachio 2 years ago
oh my god stop talking about how the actors arent as pretty in the 97 version. IF ANYTHING, THAT HELPS WITH THE POINT OF THE FILM YOU ASSHOLES
hoah 2 years ago 3
Micheal Pitt was perfect for this movie ^_^
neneex1 2 years ago 5
Its a fact..less attractive ppl are far better actors. WHY? because they don't have people constantly being nice to them..they know true pain!LOL
sidsvids 2 years ago
'97 version looks like a shit remake xD
BUT FOR BE THE ORIGINAL IS GREAT!
faaip0de0oaid 2 years ago
what do u mean the 97 1 looks like a shit remake
but the originals great?
Ryanbroon97 2 years ago 3
cuz the '97 version (the original) looks bad
like in others comments say that the actors are ugly xD
but this is the original version so it's great cuz this have the original idea of the movie
faaip0de0oaid 2 years ago
What is disturbingfinally is to read people 's comments here.they seem unaware the film is realy aboutThem and theinhuman standardswe have created .thisstuff is happeningeveryday . a laugh instead of discussing WHY these movies are made and how we can change the dangerous climate we live in.Why Haneke remake?
since the woman stabbed in 1967New York while people heard from their windows We can no longer be kindtostrangers.conventions.the child is the first to die.the movie on somany levels
lovesGenet 2 years ago
i agree.... i hate how people and the critics judge this movie so harshely when they dont even understand the point of it
NYPDface 2 years ago
and whats the point??
ArnyRecords 2 years ago
@ArnyRecords its hard for me to explain exactly by a comment....to sum it up its to show how all people watch on tv and movies is violence....if u want a more detailed answer check out reviews of this movie i think some might say what the point is, that supported this movie :)
NYPDface 2 years ago
the characters of 97 are ugly
MoliKenshin 2 years ago
true, 97 characters are indeed ugly
Ramiro1000000 2 years ago
This movie is awesome, but I wish both versions had In the Hall of the Mountain King somewhere in them.
krimsonstorm96 2 years ago
The 1º 97 is BEST MOVIE ORIGINAL!
May From: BRAZIL
bybos25 2 years ago 3
mentally disturbing movie!
paulcage79 2 years ago
97 masterpiece
cineasta71 2 years ago 19
This movie (2007 version) always brings a smile to my face. I have to track down the '97 version.
AvsJoe 2 years ago
I luv the 2007 version it's one of my favorite movies.
HelloCaliHalo 2 years ago
2007. They were so damn polite. (:
0feckxyou0 2 years ago 4
07 fo sho
paul fucked with them in a happy playful manner, he was so polite. that woul make me shit my pants the worst, not knowing what happens next
FiranovaDoom 2 years ago 2
97 obra maestra.
2007 cagada! :P
Iloveid 2 years ago
bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
es la misma historia, las mismas escenas, los mismos dialogos!!!!!!!!!!!!!
¿¿¿que criticas???
lunablackdragon 2 years ago
I just saw the 2007 one, Freaky shit not horror wise but mind wise
westond12 2 years ago
damn theyre exactly the same. he rly planned the shots to a tee. i just saw the 2007 version and it's the scariest movie i've ever seen. It's so not mainstream horror or nothing like that. No scary images just a real mindfuck. Don't watch it if you're easily disturbed but again it's not like there are scary images
BleedingxRainbow 2 years ago 3
2007
savvasyo 2 years ago
naomi watts is too disney-alike. She was only taken for the bucks by our dear maker (fact!!!!!!). I cannot find another explanation
Mexijane 2 years ago
2007 for sure
UKNOWIT88 2 years ago 4
i like that the 2007 one wasnt as serious and it was more silly. it makes the two killers look a lot more sadistic, just toying around with the family and having fun with it and just messing around. idk if i were to be a serial killer i would try and be something similar to the kids in the 07 version.
Ibeatcunts 2 years ago 5
If you were a serial killer?
0_0
slashslashdotdot 2 years ago 2
the 1997 one felt like it really could happen compare to this, which just feels like another movie, if that makes sense...?
WhoreANG 2 years ago
I think the 2007 version was purposely made a bit less malicious and was designed to operate as more of a social commentary than a horror flick (which it certainly isn't, by any stretch of the imagination.)
fallingjesus 2 years ago
1997. No doubt.
ruusapoika 2 years ago
97 for sure. 07 is just a mere parody
mymindsmine420 2 years ago 2
I really thought for a moment the guy who played Peter er tubby er tom or whatever they called him lol was Ryder Strong. Then I figured out it was Brady Corbet. The dude who plays the brother in the movie Thirteen!
PrettyLush956 2 years ago
The 1997 version is so much more serious! I think this fits the movie better and makes it seem more realistic.
Samara124 2 years ago 4
The winner is 2007!!! beacos the music trailer is fantastic!!!!
llOkitall 2 years ago
2007 definitely. Micheal Pitts indifference towards the violencemakes the whole thing soo much better.
bigblue1194 2 years ago 2
could you edit the new movie, and make it like the old trailer ?
Would you do that for me ?
i hope so...
siempreviva 2 years ago 2
07 because i didnt have to read goddammn subtitles
crowofwraith 2 years ago
The acting in the original wins out, especially Arno Frisch over the painfully wooden Michael Pitt.
TulseLuper 3 years ago 3
the winner is 2007!!! beacos the music is fantastic!!!!
emanuelaemoemy 3 years ago
paul is much better in 1997
isjet 3 years ago 21
@isjet
You mean jerry?
leafsoup 1 year ago
I prefer the 1997 :P It was awesome!
NeeneChan 3 years ago 4
In my opinion especially Susanne Lothar and Ulrich Mühe were much better than Naomi Watts and Tim Roth from the U.S. Remake.
cherubym 3 years ago 4
the only thing i liked about the remake better than the original is that you feel more hatred towards the killers, while in the original the killers seem less violent and enjoyable than they really are even though the exact same things happen..
its weird, but yeah..
doodlerman 3 years ago
The re-make was veeery awesome, especially because Peter and Paul really began to look like maniacs!
Hupsibasse 3 years ago
plus theyre freakin hott!
infinitedreams56 3 years ago
I saw the newer one before i had heard of the 1997 and I loved it. But now that I realize there is another one an "original" i'll be sure to check it out.
RiceTactics 3 years ago 2
I have seen them both and although the 2007 re-make is very good, i still prefer the original.
patrickjaime 3 years ago 4
1997 is better
atealpiacere 3 years ago 4
this movie is everyghing BUT sensual. i would say it is sensual for a sadist.
mraveraqe88 3 years ago
i prefer the austrian/original version. I thought peter and paul were a better fit appearance wise.
jenscars 3 years ago 3
Does the 2007 preview remind anyone of A Clockwork Orange Preview? Fast bits of scenes and flashing words?
AkatsukiMemberPein 3 years ago
I saw the US version and I think thats the only one I really need to see, much more amazing actors.
CocoaShunter 3 years ago
the 97 version makes more sense because the actor the main bad guy calls fatty....is fat....but the guy the main bad guy calls tubby in the 08 version...isnt tubby
jackylegs94 3 years ago
OMG i wanna watch this movie!!! its gonna come up in cinemas in 2 days here in spain i cant waiiiiit!!!
sooo freaky!!!
youknowiloveyouright 3 years ago
La vi ayer (ya habia visto la original que es fantástica), y es iwal de buena....El plano final me dejó helado frente a la pantalla....
reyni 3 years ago
this movie is crazy.
they both seem the same though.
and the guy that winked is WAYY cuter (:
ChelseaCalamityx3 3 years ago
i like the wink better than the smile, and the original guy who winked is much cuter.
hardshoequeen 3 years ago 2
I agree! I really like Arno Frisch. And he was a much better pick for the role of "Paul" than Michael Pitt.
Dunkelheit420 3 years ago 2
The only really similar parts of the trailer is at the beginning of both...wait till both films come out and then put some of the scenes together!
Aaronpowellfilms 3 years ago
I did that.
egyptiansushi 3 years ago