Here's what I'll grant Patrice: 9/11 was definitely used to justify, in the public's mind, a bullshit war. We were angry and out for justice. We invaded Afghanistan, but without bin Laden we had not catharsis. Suddenly, Bush announced that Iraq had 'WMDs' and we were going in.
However, all this really says is that Bush used 9/11 to push his agenda. You have to make a very drastic leap in logic to go from this to "the government did 9/11".
Anyone who believes in the 9/11 conspiracies are fucking morons. Just use simple 6th grade logic and you will come to the SAME conclusion the U.S. government did -- which is exactly what we were told. The reason for these theories is the people spouting them are sad, "misunderstood" "free thinking" lunies. Do you really believe ANY government is capable of pulling something like this off? C' mon wake the fuck up get out of your stupid fantasy worlds. We are at war with Muslim terrorism.
@hodges2367 let me say this before i say anything else. im not claiming that i know anything. im not in any way saying that the goverment is responsible for what happened on 9/11. im on neither side of this argument. the only thing i have a problem with is people that say that the goverment is not capable of doing anything like this. now im not mad, i dont want to curse or insult you in anyway. this is what i think, it is not what i know so remember that if you reply to this comment.
All the proof you need is Sibel Edmunds and Susan Lindauer, the first a translator who worked for the government and the second: an intelligence field agent that worked for the government. Both had gag orders placed on them and both came forward with the fact that both planes and explosives were used and US goverment was complient.
opie and anthony are so stupid. they mock him and condesend him like they are the all-seeing, all-knowing men we need in our lives. you 2 are ignorant, and arrogant, and need to shut the fuck up and open your god damn eyes and minds to the idea that what you have been told is NOT THE TRUTH. you fucking idiots. everything they say is rediculous
ok, but my question is where are you guys getting this information that its was the zionist jews? I can understand why some people say it was our government, or that it was terrorist, but I cant understand why people say it was the "zionist jews".
I loved Patrice as much as the next person but it always cracks me up when people say he always made the most sense in any discussion. Really? He believed every single word he heard in these crazy documentaries he watched. There were at least a few WTF moments every time he was on the show.
@jennpenn5 what 'crazy' documentaries do you speak of? im sorry, but if you objectively look into issues on the nwo, 9/11, elitists, facism, eugenics, you can easily see it quite clearly. please dont believe everything the media tells you. look at things like NDAA and SOPA, these are the exact measures hitler took before his rise. compare every aspect of society to 1940 and to roman times, and there as clear as one can imagine.
@FreeMeFromG Whenthe North Tower collapsed on September 11, 2001, heavy debris hit 7 World Trade Center, damaging the south face of the building and starting fires that continued to burn throughout the afternoon. The collapse also caused damage to the southwest corner between Floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between Floor 44 and the roof; other possible structural damage included a large vertical gash near the center of the south face between Floors 24 and 41. End of story.
@FreeMeFromG lot more to that. cement being grounded into dust, people hearing explosions, no plane parts found at pentagon or uf 93 crash site, buildings falling at the rate of gravity, Bush saw the first plane hit the tower, even tho there was no live feed, BBC anchor women reporting wtc 7 before it collapses. and That's just what was reported on TV
Regardless of who is right...Anthony is a fucking BITCH. Him, Opie and that little shit Norton are all loud bitches on a train that get on your nerves to the point where you wanna give em a backhand.
I wouldnt say the main intention would be to go into Iraq cuz jus like dude said they dont need the backing of the country, not lawfully of course but in practice they have been doin it without our consent for a while. The biggest thing they where able to do that they couldnt othe wise was the sweeping turbo charged assault on our FREEDOM.
Did I hear that idiot correctly? "You don't need the backing of the country to go to war"? Really? He is that stupid that he actually said that. So he's saying we don't need the constitution? It's pretty clear (according to the constitution) that the congress can declare war only. The congress is supposed to be the representatives of the people (the country). People really listen to this ignorant moron? Why?
I have read it. Have you read the War Powers Resolution? Here's an excerpt from the library of congress you may find interesting.
"U.S. Presidents have consistently taken the position that the War Powers Resolution is an unconstitutional infringement upon the power of the executive branch. As a result, the Resolution has been the subject of controversy since its enactment, and is a recurring issue due to the ongoing worldwide commitment of U.S. armed forces."
@Junk4Q2 Presidents have had the power to go into war for 60 days without the consent of congress since the 70s. And Clinton, Bush Jr. and Obama have all ignored most if not all of the resolutions stipulations. All they have to do is say that it's an emergency. From day 1, the Iraq War was sold as a war for our own self preservation.
@Junk4Q2 He's actually right-there has been no formal declaration of war since WW2, but it sure didn't stop us from going to war. The War Powers Act basically usurped the constitutional requirements for war, and ever since the executive branch pretty much does whatever the UN says, or whatever suits the party in power. Most people aren't aware of this, or don't care.
@loafpork questioning perceived reality is essentially what science is based upon, so basically you are saying that scientific inquiry is something for brain dead idiots. I think you should contact your local DWP because your water is fluoridated. Then do some research on building 7, good luck.
Anthony asks, "Did you read the 9/11 commission report?" Ok, two things here. That report has been renamed the 9/11 Omission Report for a reason. Secondly, the collapse of WTC Building 7 was not even mentioned in the Omission report. Opie and Anthony are just 2 useless lying scumbags for the mainstream media that need their faces kicked out the back of their heads. What a bunch of pussies!
That's because the collapse of WTC is pretty fucking clear. Conspiracytards like you are nothing more than paranoid parasites who leech off of tragedies to feed your delusional worldviews. You claim to know the truth but the truth is all you care about is winning and desperately trying to prove your point which has more holes in it than Gary Busey's brain.
@TheAntiV Look, I've been through this whole argument with zionist faggots like you over and over again! I'm not even going to talk about how the buildings collapsed because there was only one way it could have happened. CONTROLLED DEMOLITION! Here's a quote you should remember for the rest of your life.
"If Americans ever know that Israel did this, they're gonna scrub them off the earth, and they're not gonna give a rat's ass what the cost is." - Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former US Marine.
LOL!!! Alan Sabrosky? The guy who completely exaggerated his position in the army? Funny how no one else in the army has claimed this and that not a single leaked document has confirmed such a sentiment.
Sabrosky has deliberately inflated his role in the military and has used that ruse to promote a hateful, fact-free conspiracy theory.
@Sambuca6178 In fact, while he did work as an administrator at the U.S. Army War College, he was not, as his job title seems to indicate, the director or dean of the college. Far from it. According to the Press Office of the Army War College, in the mid-1980s, Sabrosky served as a civilian administrator at a research department of the college, supervising the publication of papers written within that department.
@TheAntiV By the way, Sabrosky is partly Jewish and even he admits that Jewish radicals were behind the attacks. But no, you're too fucking stupid to turn off FOX and CNN and just keep drinking the kool-aid. I don't have a problem with Jewish people. You Zionist punks though need to get the fuck out of our country though before we make you leave ourselves! Shit is gonna hit the fan eventually!
HURR DURR IM NOT RACIST IF SABROSKY IS JEWISH DURR HURR.
Nice try but you're just defending the indefensible.
How about you racist faggots get out of this country? No one wants you scum bag shit heads in here anyways. And enough with the threats. You redneck militia types are nothing more than inbred swine who've never accomplished anything in your pathetic lives.
His job title was "Director of Studies" because he supervised publishing studies done within a department of the college. He was a mid-level civilian manager at a military college, without access to the sort of highly classified material of the sort he now fraudulently claims to have. Moreover, since his employment at that school was about 25 years ago, his employment there would provide him with no special insights with respect to 9/11.
How on earth could someone who worked on the level of a college librarian in the 1980s be privy to top secret information revealing a vast hidden conspiracy? And how on earth could he be the only person to know about it or think it worth revealing?
But then again racists aren't known for their critical thinking skills.
@TheAntiV I'm gonna keep pounding this into your little jew brain! 9/11 was done by YOUR PEOPLE! Why? To get us into fighting Israel's wars for them! That's exactly why 9/11 happened. It was not pulled off by some rag head living in a cave!
9/11 was an Israeli/Mossad false flag operation! 200 Israelis were arrested for celebrating when the towers fell. They even said on a TV show in Tel Aviv that they were there to "document the event". Are you fucking kidding me? You're worthless!
Again I'm not only Jewish. But go ahead and call me that. It only proves why the vast majority of Americans see you people as the idiots you truly are. And it's not because of some conspiracy against poor little you.
"200 Israelis were arrested for celebrating when the towers fell. "
According to who? Where? Hundreds of Palestinians were also seen celebrating the towers falling.
@TheAntiV There you go again supporting the jewish media machine. That clip they showed of Muslims "celebrating 9/11" was bullshit. They were celebrating a day of peace and that clip was used for 9/11. Do you see how fucking easy it is to tell a lie? Because you believe everything you see on television. Those are the facts! You believe EVERYTHING! Let me write in all caps so you can understand this now. YOU BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON THE NEWS...PERIOD!!!
Actually they weren't celebrating a day of peace. Snopes did research on the subject and proves that the footage of Palestinians dancing was accurate whether you like it or not.
snopes(dot)com/rumors/cnn(dot)asp
People with low intelligence like you should have been aborted.
YOU A DUMB RACIST TWAT WHO BELIEVES EVERYTHING HE READS ON THE INTER AND WHO ENJOYS SUCKING HITLER'S DEAD COCK!
LOL!!! I fucking love morons like you who think they've won. Seriously you have no idea how lucky you are we aren't face to face. I would dominate you to the point that you'd consider suicide an option in order to avoid confronting your humiliating defeat. You're nothing more than a waste and a piece of shit.
Here it’s suggested that saying “our purpose was to document the event” is in itself somehow suspicious, that it indicates foreknowledge. Why? We’ve no idea. Every single person who pointed a camera at the WTC on 9/11 did so because they wanted to “document the event”. The phrase indicates precisely nothing at all.
@TheAntiV No, retard. The phrase, "Our purpose was to document the event" means, "We've had foreknowledge." That's what it translates to. There is a difference between someone "documenting the event" vs. "our purpose was to document the event." THOSE were the guys who were caught celebrating when it happened because they knew the attacks would benefit their country. Do you see how this works now? It's not rocket science! The official story of 9/11 is just a bowl of shit rotting away.
Actually it doesn't mean they had forknowledge. You just assumed that. And if they did why the fuck would they admit it on live television? Not to mention the fact that the FBI let them go. You truly are a fucking moron.
Also, it's clear you don't know anything about what happened. For instance witnesses say they saw the van pull up AFTER the first plan hit. You really need to stop believing in what you see and read on the internet.
@israelgaribaldi It wasn't the Jewish people who orchestrated 9/11. It was the Zionist Jews who did. There is a big difference. Believe it or not, the Jews also have their own kind of extremism which may be hard for some of you to accept. Just like the Italians and the Mafia, the Germans and the Nazis, the Russians and the communists, etc. You get my drift? WTC 7 was wired for demolition on 9/11 and Larry Silverstein cashed in on 6 billion dollars. There's way more...
@gemcommunityorg You can't put us all in the same category. We're not only at war with countries we should NOT be involved in, we the people are at war with ourselves. Thanks to the 2 "dominant" parties who were created to divide and conquer the American people. I agree, most Americans here are a plague to this planet. But it's mainly our government which is controlled by Zionist Jews who call the shots. Anytime we speak out against anything, they arrest us or kill us. Please pray for us!
By your response i can tell you guys are already on the road to recovery im no one to judge, its just some times the emotions over flow, im humbled by your humidity,you see the elites of this world have no empathy for other human beings,even the brave men and women of your military are treated like shit,i hope one day your soldiers over throw the white house & all the KKK members in their, senators have been the same for years dose not matter who the president is its the same old same old
@PaindontHurt1 i heard the whole thing, as much as i think Alex is a HUGE conspiracy nut, he did back up everything he said with facts. thats why Ant didnt say anything,cause he knew deep down he knew he would lose the second he asked ok, show me some evidence.
I hear a lot of conspiracy theorists say they heard (or heard of) the sound of explosions just before each tower collapsed, and use that as evidence of a planned detonation. However, it was pretty clear to the more rational of us that those were the sounds of the initial floors collapsing onto each other just before the outer structure started to break.
boom -- boom -- boom - boom-boomboomboom.............. You could only hear the first few as distinct "boom's" apart from the rest.
Hey Anthony, why don't you show us a clear shot of a plane going into the pentagon, you pathetic douchebag?? Keep sucking on that zionist cock there buddy!
@TheAntiV Oh here we go with the anti-Semitic bullshit. Like I give a fuck! In case you are misinformed, Muslims are Semites too, dipshit. Did you even know that? A Semite is anyone of Middle Eastern decent who speaks a Semitic language such as Hebrew or Arabic. But you obviously didn't know that. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. About those eyewitnesses: You mean those people who were bought out by the govt to cover their asses? Zionist Jews are the only anti-Semites! Fuck off!
Actually, Islam is a religion, not a cultural linguistic group. In fact most Muslims aren't even Arab. I guess that home schooling didn't work out for you much.
Sorry, but arguing semantics isn't going to help you get out of this one. Anti-semitism is a term used for anyone who discriminates Jews. Sorry, but you aren't smart. you're just another paranoid delusional cretin who assumes that everything he reads from the internet is true.
@TheAntiV Yeah you're right. I should just go along to get along. Never question anything that seems obvious or fishy, right? Just listen to the fucking mainstream news channels because THEY know everything, right? I wish I controlled the media like the Jews do, so that I could make someone report that drinking sulfuric acid can help you sleep better at night. I wonder how many morons like you would actually drink it!
You're a disgrace to humanity. Don't ever have children.
There's a big difference between questioning something and making completely baseless and ridiculous claims that have been refuted numerous times.
I don't watch a lot of mainstream news stations. But if I made a bet I'm sure they'd be a whole lot more fucking accurate than the crazies you listen to on the internet.
"I wish I controlled the media like the Jews do"
ANd you wonder why people call you an anti-semite.
@TheAntiV So basically, what you're saying is that it is anti-Semitic to tell the truth. That's all I'm getting out of your stupid ass! You're also telling me that the mainstream news reporters obviously know everything about physics when you have hundreds of architects and engineers who call bullshit on the 9/11 event. Are you a fucking joke? The answer is yes! YOU are the anti-Semite. Not me! You support the Zionist agenda to kill and rape Palestinian children, so go fuck yourself!
That's assuming anything you're saying is true. But ask any historian or scientists and they'll just point out the fact that you're nothing more than a racist terrorist.
Currently there are over 120,000 engineers who make up the American Society of Civil Engineers yet not one of them make the baseless conspiracy theories you do. In fact they collectively released there own report on the tower's collapse which runs contrary to what you're saying.
LOL!!! So every person doesn't agree with you supports the raping of Palestinian children? You seriously need to stop living in your little fantasy world. In fact the majority of Israelis want piece.
But since you enjoy generalizing I guess it's okay for me to assume that you support the agenda of murdering Jews and supporting suicide bombings.
Tell me, have you ever read anything in your life that has been peer reviewed?
@TheAntiV Exactly! You zionist jews are all the same. "JUST KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT." Why? Where is my freedom of speech? I have a right to discriminate anyone I want to, even if it is the zionist Jews who control everything. So now, I demand to take away YOUR freedom of speech. Why don't YOU shut the fuck up and go rape some Palestinian children, you worthless fuck!
I'm not even Jewish you stupid fucking brainless cunt. Seriously, why do racist conspiracytards always make that silly assumption that everyone who disagrees with you is Jewish? Is it so hard for you to handle the fact that your opposition makes up more than 0.2% of the world population?
Sorry, but you aren't a very bright person and you're only proving to everyone want a crazy fucking moron you truly are.
@TheAntiV YES you are fucking jewish! I can fucking smell it because it is so obvious how adamant you are in defending the Zionist Jews. So shut the fuck up, and climb back into your fucking gas chamber...PUNK! You are really stinking this world up! But what do jews do best? They fucking lie like you just did to me! NOT JEWISH MY ASS!!! lmfao.
You know what I love about racists like you? None of you have the balls to say this to someones face. By making racist insults you only further prove the violent tendencies behind your disturbed mindset. That's why inbred cretins like you commit terrorist attacks and robberies. You're nothing more than an embarresment to society.
Let's be honest. Racists like you are nothing but an embarrassment to the community and society at large. Your claims barely amount to nothing more than an embarrassing afterfart of an ideology long dead which is either scorned or laughed at.
@TheAntiV listen im a hard core Zionist and i dont believe the b.s. of the 911 report. dont make it a a anti semitic issue because it isnt. look up Barry Chamish a Israeli war veteran and writer he doesnt believe it either.
@TheAntiV i understand, theres is allways some one thats going to take advantage of an incident by blaming a certain group of people (steriotyping) its like blaming all germans for world war 2 or all americans for the war in Iraq, for a certain event for political gain etc,its wrong. but in the case of 911 theres too many unanswered questions. who knows? we may never know the whole truth, again check out Barry Chamish for a different prespective,
@m015094 There is a difference between asking questions and saying planes never flew into the buildings or that it was a missile that hit the pentagon. Plus you have no proof im a conspiracy theorist so i guess you are just as bad as him for jumping to conclusions.
Opie and Dopie have both been sucked into the Zionist Jew media machine. I used to have respect for their radio show until 9/11 happened because they are against questioning government. Fuck those pussies!
@Daathaan Well, Satan and the freemasons are ruling the USA. There's no question about that. And excuse me Einstein for misspelling "yourself". I figured why not just cut 2 letters out because it would save me that one extra second from replying to your dumb ass.
@Sambuca6178 I never said anything of the sort. If you want my opinion I'm more than happy to discuss the subject but I will not argue with you if you're this fanatical about the unreal belief that the US government is controlled by a global Zionist organization and are collaborating with Aliens wanting to invade on December 12, 2012. I simply won't see you as someone who is credible and can have a logical discussion.
Nice straw man there shithead. First of all the jet fuel didn't need to melt the steel for the building to collapse. It only needed to weaken it. You obviously have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
the WMD's were not explosives type..Iraq was going to sell oil to the Euro money countries like Germany, France, Holland ect.. but England and US were not invited...there's your weapon,,WIII is a financial war ,,currency war... war for oil sucks!
Anthony was going strong until he pulled that "they hate us for our freedoms" bullshit, proving he's a brainwashed idiot even if he's right about 9-11.
@Vebinz You're right. They hate us because our leaders are in partnership with all the evil dictators that make their country shitty. I'd hate us too probably.
"remember the Maine"???? Someone should tell Anthony that was are pretext into getting into the Spanish-American War of 1898. In which a US Navy ship the Maine was in habor in Havana if im not mistaken and expolded killing many of its crew. In any event the media really drum up anti-spainish sentiment in the US blaming the explosion on Spain, which even in that date some believed it was an accidental explosion which was later proven in the 70's. Long story short we kicked spains ass
@drunkNbored9 Damn props to you sir, just another reason patrice is making some good valid points that i never would've picked up on. I mean think about it we went into most wars because of tragic attack.. pearl harbor.... 9/11.. the attack on our ship which got us involved in WW2... and even what you said
isn't it more likely that we just used these attacks as the EXCUSE to invade Iraq, rather than we orchestrated them to invade Iraq...considering Iraq was the SECOND PLACE WE INVADED AND NOT THE FIRST. IF WE'RE GONNA ACCUSE FUCKING IRAQ FOR THIS WHY DIDN'T WE FRAME FUCKING IRAQ AND NOT BIN LADEN. FUCK!!!!!
@stevepants If the war on terror has an legitimacy whatsoever then why didn't we invade Saudi Arabia, in light of the fact that 15 0f the 19 alleged hijackers were Saudi. We didn't take any action against the Saudis whatsoever? The Bush administration was loyal allies with the Saudis. Explain that.
Debating whether 9/11 was a conspiracy is pointless right now. The only thing important is that we're at our maximum amount of national debt, the dollar has lost a substantial amount of value, gas prices are consistently rising every day and the price of goods continues to rise as well. The only thing not going up is our take home pay. I'm all for fighting against tyranny, but at some point we need to ask why we're getting fucked in the process.
@JorshWarshington Well don't forget these wars have a huge price tag associated with them. You ever look into how much profit miltary contractors are making well everyone else is getting fucked seven ways to Sunday? It's outrageous.
He wants one thing: WTC7. Freefall speed for 2.25 seconds. Absoultely 100% physcially impossible without all strutcural components being simulatenously emoved across the entire width of the building. Fire can't do that. Case closed. ANyone that says otherwise is either lying or too stupid to understand the simple physics involved.
@niverent 1 spot on the north facade of wtc hit freefall for 2.5 seconds...guess why? Cause the interior structure had already fallen away. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
@Oz1976 It wasn't one spot you fucking moron, the entire width of the building fell at freefall. NIST admits this. Your claim that the outside structure was standing while the entire interior had collapsed is just stupid.
@niverent No they don't. Go read the report. One area of the north face fell at freefall for 2.5 seconds. Nothing more. The curtain of the building WAS the last to fall, go look at the NIST model dumbshit....the south interior had given way, column 79 had failed and started a chain reaction progressive collapse within the building. Watch the complete collapse video where you can see the East Mechanical penthouse fall completely through the building. You don't have a clue, and should go read.
@Oz1976 You are lying. The NIST report doesn't say it is only one part. The NIST model looks nothing like the collapse. And you are contradicting even yourself: a "chain reaction" and freefall speed is mutually contradictory. You have nothing but lies and self-denial.
@niverent Yes, the NIST report, DOES say one portion, and no I'm not contradicting myself, you're just too stupid to comprehend it. The internal chain reaction, aka Progressive Collapse, removed the interior, shit watch the fucking NIST computer model and you can easilly see this. The free fall speed only occured on a portion of the north face after the collapse had already removed the interior supports from that section. It's pretty fucking simple.
@Oz1976 A progressive collapse cannot lead to freefall in any way you fucking moron. They are mutually contradictory. Progressive collapse means freefall speeds impossible. Freefall speeds means its not a progressive collapse. Why? Because for there to be freefall speeds that means ALL structural components must be completely and simultaneously removed.
@niverent sigh, you really are not too bright.... PART OF THE BUILDING for 2.5 seconds hit freefall...AND YES it was PART of the PROGRESSIVE COLLAPSE. No they aren't. You're an idiot...NIST even says "what we have here is a new form of progressive collapse." The curtain was able to hit freefall BRIEFLY, because the interior progressive collapse had removed enough support from that area. Get over it. You're wrong and don't have a damn clue what you're talking about. NIST > you.
@Oz1976 You don't get it there is no "part" in a progressive collapse that will have freefall speed. That is because is in a progressive collapse eveything, by its very nature, doesn't happen instantaneously. For freefall to occur everything is instantaneous.
@niverent No you don't get it. There is a part in THIS progressive collapse that a SMALL SECTION of the North Face achieved freefall, because the internal progression had cleared the load bearing columns from that section already. You're wrong. There was no TOTAL FREEFALL...just a SECTION on the NORTH FACE. Get over it,, you don't understand what you're talking about.
@Oz1976 Yes, stage two: freefall for 2.25 seconds. Where does it say anything about only one part liar? They measure from one point, that doens't mean only one point fell. One can see that the roofline stays level, which means it wasn't only one point. You liar. Anyone can watch the video and verify this for themselves.
@niverent sigh you do not know how to comprehend anything do you? GO READ THE WHOLE REPORT FROM WHERE THAT CAME! It is in reference to ONE POINT on the NORTH FACE. I'm done with you. You're a fucking idiot who can't comprehend simple english, much less the NIST report when it's right there in front of your face. I'm not the liar, you and the "truth" movement are.
@Oz1976 They measured one point. That doesn't mean only one point fell at freefall, and when you say this you are lying. Anyone can see for themselves that the roofline stays level.
@niverent The roofline stays level? really? that's a blatant misrepresentation of the facts. East penthouse collapses, crimp forms, roofline is not level, more interior collapse, more crimp, then full curtain collapse. /watch?v=jS2xj1M_N9k
Oh yeah...rEALLY stays level...not two distinct crimps or anything...ROFL!
@Oz1976 I'm not going to argue with you about whether the roofline stays level or not because anyone can watch it for themselves and make up their own mind. As far as the crimp goes that is classic controlled demolition.
@niverent It's also classic progressive collapse. Enjoy living in your deluded fantasy. Most truthers have gotten over it and realized their stupidity. More and more coming back to JREF forums admitting they were terribly misinformed.
@Oz1976 Classic Progressive Collapse...that's ridiculous! Why would NIST taken 8 or 9 years to explain it if it was "classic Progressive collapse"? Why would they say its collapse was mysterious for all that time?? And they concluded the collapse wasn't classic at all but due to a novel phenomenon (thermal expansion) that wasn't known to be able to cause collapse. You can't write anything without lying.
@niverent NIST took so long so they could be certain their report would be accurate to limit challenges from what was then a rising idiocy of controlled demolition fanaticism. They've answered all your idiotic questions, go read the entire report. Sorry, the lies lie with the "truth" movement, not me...no matter how many times you say it, it will not make it so. Keep spewing it though, it's obvious you've abandoned all rational and critical thought...that's what happens when you think you KNOW
"this hypothesis suggests that WTC 7 was a classic progressive collapse that included:"
He then elaborates later saying: ( wtc7. net/cache/nist_wtc082108.html)
When this critical column buckled due to lack of floor supports, it was the first domino in the chain, What followed in rapid succession was a progression of structural failures. (cont..)
Failure first occurred all the way to the roof line—involving all three interior columns on the most eastern side of the building. Then, progressing from east to west across WTC 7, all of the columns in the core of the building failed. Finally, the entire façade collapsed.”
Owned, now shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down.
@Oz1976 You didn't own shit bitch. watch?v=U0GW6QXKyp0 Watch at the :55 second mark. Anyone with two fucking eyes can see the roofline stayed level. So they can either believe their own two eyes or they can believe your lies. Owned, now shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down tough guy.
@niverent LOL. The roof line does not stay level, it's been proven, you seriously need to get your eyes checked. You're a dumb fucking truther with no evidence only deluded fantasies. WTC 7 was not control demo, WTC 1 and 2 were not controlled demo. The Bush Administration is only guilty of not heeding the warnings more thoroughly. Larry Silverstein didn't make any money, he lossed his ass. You're an idiot.
/watch?v=jS2xj1M_N9k < you can easilly see the roofline dips more in the middle.
@niverent No, the kink is indication that the interior of the building has collapsed, as is the fact that preceeds the kink the entire East Mechanical Penthouse collapses throughout the building which can clearly be seen on the COMPLETE collapse videos, windows get blown out from the top down following the path of the penthouse. You have no clue, stop trying.
@Oz1976 Yes, the kink and the wiondows getting blown out are both signs of contolled demolition. As are the explosions. The molten metal also cannot be explained by office fires. Freefall speed is completely impossible in a progressive collapse. Everything you say is indicative of a controlled demolition.
@niverent No they aren't, they're a sign that the fucking penthouse fell through the building. There were no explosions in building 7...not one video of building 7's collapse has any hint of detonations, cutter charges or anything. Freefall speed is not impossible in progressive collapse when it's only ONE point on the north face and only for 2.5 seconds. Again FREEFALL IS NOT INDICATIVE OF CD, YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON AND DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT. You're so wrong it's laughable.
@Oz1976 It wasn't just one point on the north face. That is a lie on your part. Freefall is indicative of freefall speed because fro freefall to occur all support must be completely and simultaneously removed which obviously ins't the case in a progressive collapse collapse (i.e. a chain of events). If you are too stupid to comprehend this that is your problem, but I will be here exposing your lies as long as you persist in telling them.
@niverent It was one point, you're dumb...ridicule is all you will recieve from me here...you want to continue your idiotic lies, I will be more than happy to, not here though...we've taken up enough posts on this video.
@Oz1976 No Liar, it is one point they measured. The building falls as a unit as anyone can see here watch?v=VTy3RYDj0lk&feature=related Your lies are very transparent.
@Oz1976 "No it doesn't" - that is your denial in its purest form. Just a total denial of reality. Here is WTC7 falling as a unit, deny it all you want, but it is plain to see watch?v=VTy3RYDj0lk&feature=related
@niverent No, that's only the curtain falling, the internal failure collapse has long since progressed. You're wrong. Get off youtube, go get your information from somewhere other than biased propaganda videos dipshit.
@Oz1976 Ah, "the curtain"...is that an engineering term? Tell me, if everything inside has long since collapsed by the time "the curtain" collpases why does "the curtain" fall straight down? Wouldn't the curtain topple over since nothing is supporting it? Your explanation is transparently retarded.
@niverent You're dumb and obviously haven't read NCSTAR nor the wtc 7 models or reports.
wtc.nist . gov
Read it ALL. Comprehend it. Or is the fact that it has a .gov at the end make it immediately disinformation in your utter lunacy and deluded fantasy world.
@Oz1976 Interesting that you mentioned NIST's collapse model. Compare it with reality watch?v=WnXeUIaYj3k&feature=channel_video_title Anyone can see that there collapse model looks nothing like the observed collapse. Notice how in NISTs model the facade, or "curtain" as you refer to it, folds inward, but in the actual collapse the facade does not fall inwards.
@niverent No, the curtain falls to the south after it's passed the south facade threshold which actually collapsed firts. You can see this easilly if you watch the cOMPLETE collapse AND view the debris pattern from the aerial photography. But you're too fucking dumb to do that, no you'd rather believe some bullshit controlled demo of 7 that had ZERO cutter charge explosions and ZERO "squibs". You would rather believe in the super secret HUSH-A-BOOM explosives.
@Oz1976 Um, we've already established that explosions were heard. Now you are trying to say none were heard. How come you can't keep your story straight?
@niverent not controlled demo explosions, your semantics are noted however, keep up the good twoofer work when most are abandoning you. There were no CUTTER CHARGE / SEQUENCED explosions. You know it. I know it. No matter how much you lie and twist and cherry pick, it will not change the fact that neither WTC 1 or 2, nor WTC 7 were controlled demolition. End of discussion. You're an idiot.
@Oz1976 First you say there were explosions. Then you say there were no explosions. Then you say there were explosions. Sorry, but it is plain to see you are full of shit.
@niverent More semantics and you know it. You're beaten and you know it. You're wrong and you know it. So you try and turn it around into attacks. You are the one that's full of shit. I clearly denoted WHAT KIND of explosions. There were no CD explosions, there WERE electrical explosions and other things that explode that were not of the BOMB variety or CUTTER CHARGE variety or SEQUENCED CHARGE variety. But it's clear you can't comprehend that. Explosions do not mean bombs. You're a moron.
@Oz1976 I'm not beaten at all. First you said there were explosions. Then you say there weren't. Then you say there were, but you claim they weren't a certain type of explosion. Then you hypocritically accuse me of engaging in semantics. As far as an actual description of the explosions from an actual witness here is a description from an NYPD cop watch?v=CIIF6P8zBG8&feature=channel_video_title "Thoom thoom thoom thoom thoom" sure sounds like a sequence to me. Is the NYPD cop lying?
@niverent You're too retarded to continue this. You can't differentiate simple meanings in english. In 10 years you haven't figured out 9/11 and you cling to controlled demolition like Christians do to the second coming of Jesus. You're wrong. I'm done with you. Using an NYPD cop to further your agenda is dispicable. You can't even comprehend that he's using simile and metaphor to describe what it was like, not what it was. DIAF please.
@Oz1976 No, what is despicable is you lying about what the cop said. watch?v=CIIF6P8zBG8&feature=channel_video_title He said he heard a succession of explosions. Everything you say is a lie. Why is that? Why is it that I can show clips that disprove without exception every single one of your claims. I have made claims and backed them all up with evidence and all you can do is lie about.
@niverent No, it's dispicable you're taking his statement out of context as a typical truther. Pro tip: that cop DOES NOT believe as you do. He was describing WHAT IT WAS LIKE...it's called a metaphor (or in his case a SIMILE). Dumbass.
Here's what I'll grant Patrice: 9/11 was definitely used to justify, in the public's mind, a bullshit war. We were angry and out for justice. We invaded Afghanistan, but without bin Laden we had not catharsis. Suddenly, Bush announced that Iraq had 'WMDs' and we were going in.
However, all this really says is that Bush used 9/11 to push his agenda. You have to make a very drastic leap in logic to go from this to "the government did 9/11".
cridantis 2 days ago
Anyone who believes in the 9/11 conspiracies are fucking morons. Just use simple 6th grade logic and you will come to the SAME conclusion the U.S. government did -- which is exactly what we were told. The reason for these theories is the people spouting them are sad, "misunderstood" "free thinking" lunies. Do you really believe ANY government is capable of pulling something like this off? C' mon wake the fuck up get out of your stupid fantasy worlds. We are at war with Muslim terrorism.
hodges2367 1 week ago
@hodges2367 let me say this before i say anything else. im not claiming that i know anything. im not in any way saying that the goverment is responsible for what happened on 9/11. im on neither side of this argument. the only thing i have a problem with is people that say that the goverment is not capable of doing anything like this. now im not mad, i dont want to curse or insult you in anyway. this is what i think, it is not what i know so remember that if you reply to this comment.
ThatManCray 2 days ago
All the proof you need is Sibel Edmunds and Susan Lindauer, the first a translator who worked for the government and the second: an intelligence field agent that worked for the government. Both had gag orders placed on them and both came forward with the fact that both planes and explosives were used and US goverment was complient.
EastWiq 2 weeks ago
opie and anthony are so stupid. they mock him and condesend him like they are the all-seeing, all-knowing men we need in our lives. you 2 are ignorant, and arrogant, and need to shut the fuck up and open your god damn eyes and minds to the idea that what you have been told is NOT THE TRUTH. you fucking idiots. everything they say is rediculous
ABertram2323 2 weeks ago
Why do people get so defensive about this stuff?
Myytmovies 2 weeks ago
ok, but my question is where are you guys getting this information that its was the zionist jews? I can understand why some people say it was our government, or that it was terrorist, but I cant understand why people say it was the "zionist jews".
israelgaribaldi 3 weeks ago
I loved Patrice as much as the next person but it always cracks me up when people say he always made the most sense in any discussion. Really? He believed every single word he heard in these crazy documentaries he watched. There were at least a few WTF moments every time he was on the show.
jennpenn5 3 weeks ago
@jennpenn5 what 'crazy' documentaries do you speak of? im sorry, but if you objectively look into issues on the nwo, 9/11, elitists, facism, eugenics, you can easily see it quite clearly. please dont believe everything the media tells you. look at things like NDAA and SOPA, these are the exact measures hitler took before his rise. compare every aspect of society to 1940 and to roman times, and there as clear as one can imagine.
ABertram2323 2 weeks ago
obama is a alien,
wheres u proof
Fox news
oh ok must be true
treverbettis 3 weeks ago
Jesus I can't believe I'm listening to Patrice even entertain this loudmouth piece of shit.
EveBootyPop 3 weeks ago
Building 7...end of story.
FreeMeFromG 1 month ago
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@FreeMeFromG Whenthe North Tower collapsed on September 11, 2001, heavy debris hit 7 World Trade Center, damaging the south face of the building and starting fires that continued to burn throughout the afternoon. The collapse also caused damage to the southwest corner between Floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between Floor 44 and the roof; other possible structural damage included a large vertical gash near the center of the south face between Floors 24 and 41. End of story.
polskie90 1 month ago
@FreeMeFromG lot more to that. cement being grounded into dust, people hearing explosions, no plane parts found at pentagon or uf 93 crash site, buildings falling at the rate of gravity, Bush saw the first plane hit the tower, even tho there was no live feed, BBC anchor women reporting wtc 7 before it collapses. and That's just what was reported on TV
Myytmovies 2 weeks ago
Hey Ant,
Why are you Dumb Ass enough to Believe Our CORRUPT Government was involved ? Dumb Ass Fuck Head MORON.
damienski 1 month ago
Regardless of who is right...Anthony is a fucking BITCH. Him, Opie and that little shit Norton are all loud bitches on a train that get on your nerves to the point where you wanna give em a backhand.
factumDiabolus 1 month ago
Patrice was looking for 2 words, "false flag".
RealLifeOmen 2 months ago
Anthony is one seriously ignorant wop.
pretorious700 2 months ago
wow after three years and updated knowledge this anthony guy sounds like a complete moron
70sinful 2 months ago
WTF, the 9/11 commission is bullshit you stupid WAP!
COORSFAN420aight 2 months ago
these idiots are dick heads, they are whats wrong with the world
treverbettis 2 months ago
yo yhe white guy hates talkin bout dat shit..his nerves or so bad..dont be scared bro..lol
aoben89 3 months ago
Opie + Anthony = Waste of oxygen
TheFallenWon 3 months ago
I wouldnt say the main intention would be to go into Iraq cuz jus like dude said they dont need the backing of the country, not lawfully of course but in practice they have been doin it without our consent for a while. The biggest thing they where able to do that they couldnt othe wise was the sweeping turbo charged assault on our FREEDOM.
seeqr9 3 months ago
Did I hear that idiot correctly? "You don't need the backing of the country to go to war"? Really? He is that stupid that he actually said that. So he's saying we don't need the constitution? It's pretty clear (according to the constitution) that the congress can declare war only. The congress is supposed to be the representatives of the people (the country). People really listen to this ignorant moron? Why?
Junk4Q2 3 months ago
@Junk4Q2 Look up The War Powers Resolution.
TheBigSuegroski 2 months ago
@TheBigSuegroski
I have read it. Have you read the War Powers Resolution? Here's an excerpt from the library of congress you may find interesting.
"U.S. Presidents have consistently taken the position that the War Powers Resolution is an unconstitutional infringement upon the power of the executive branch. As a result, the Resolution has been the subject of controversy since its enactment, and is a recurring issue due to the ongoing worldwide commitment of U.S. armed forces."
Junk4Q2 2 months ago
@Junk4Q2 Presidents have had the power to go into war for 60 days without the consent of congress since the 70s. And Clinton, Bush Jr. and Obama have all ignored most if not all of the resolutions stipulations. All they have to do is say that it's an emergency. From day 1, the Iraq War was sold as a war for our own self preservation.
TheBigSuegroski 2 months ago
@Junk4Q2 lol, that's what they say to keep their constituencies happy. What they have DONE is much more revealing.
pretorious700 2 months ago
@Junk4Q2 He's actually right-there has been no formal declaration of war since WW2, but it sure didn't stop us from going to war. The War Powers Act basically usurped the constitutional requirements for war, and ever since the executive branch pretty much does whatever the UN says, or whatever suits the party in power. Most people aren't aware of this, or don't care.
pretorious700 2 months ago
Man, this guy O'neal is a serious brain dead idiot.
loafpork 3 months ago
@loafpork questioning perceived reality is essentially what science is based upon, so basically you are saying that scientific inquiry is something for brain dead idiots. I think you should contact your local DWP because your water is fluoridated. Then do some research on building 7, good luck.
FjukTheFed 3 months ago
@loafpork b quiet sheep
Peruviankokane 3 months ago
WTC 7
watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A
europa 3 months ago
Anthony couldn't be more wrong here.
krumbumm 3 months ago
Anthony asks, "Did you read the 9/11 commission report?" Ok, two things here. That report has been renamed the 9/11 Omission Report for a reason. Secondly, the collapse of WTC Building 7 was not even mentioned in the Omission report. Opie and Anthony are just 2 useless lying scumbags for the mainstream media that need their faces kicked out the back of their heads. What a bunch of pussies!
Sambuca6178 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
That's because the collapse of WTC is pretty fucking clear. Conspiracytards like you are nothing more than paranoid parasites who leech off of tragedies to feed your delusional worldviews. You claim to know the truth but the truth is all you care about is winning and desperately trying to prove your point which has more holes in it than Gary Busey's brain.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@TheAntiV Look, I've been through this whole argument with zionist faggots like you over and over again! I'm not even going to talk about how the buildings collapsed because there was only one way it could have happened. CONTROLLED DEMOLITION! Here's a quote you should remember for the rest of your life.
"If Americans ever know that Israel did this, they're gonna scrub them off the earth, and they're not gonna give a rat's ass what the cost is." - Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former US Marine.
Sambuca6178 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
LOL!!! Alan Sabrosky? The guy who completely exaggerated his position in the army? Funny how no one else in the army has claimed this and that not a single leaked document has confirmed such a sentiment.
Sabrosky has deliberately inflated his role in the military and has used that ruse to promote a hateful, fact-free conspiracy theory.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178 In fact, while he did work as an administrator at the U.S. Army War College, he was not, as his job title seems to indicate, the director or dean of the college. Far from it. According to the Press Office of the Army War College, in the mid-1980s, Sabrosky served as a civilian administrator at a research department of the college, supervising the publication of papers written within that department.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@TheAntiV By the way, Sabrosky is partly Jewish and even he admits that Jewish radicals were behind the attacks. But no, you're too fucking stupid to turn off FOX and CNN and just keep drinking the kool-aid. I don't have a problem with Jewish people. You Zionist punks though need to get the fuck out of our country though before we make you leave ourselves! Shit is gonna hit the fan eventually!
Sambuca6178 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
LOL!!! I don't even watch any of those channels.
HURR DURR IM NOT RACIST IF SABROSKY IS JEWISH DURR HURR.
Nice try but you're just defending the indefensible.
How about you racist faggots get out of this country? No one wants you scum bag shit heads in here anyways. And enough with the threats. You redneck militia types are nothing more than inbred swine who've never accomplished anything in your pathetic lives.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@TheAntiV Despite everything I've said, have a happy and safe Thanksgiving!
Sambuca6178 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
"Despite everything I've said, have a happy and safe Thanksgiving!"
You too, troll.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
His job title was "Director of Studies" because he supervised publishing studies done within a department of the college. He was a mid-level civilian manager at a military college, without access to the sort of highly classified material of the sort he now fraudulently claims to have. Moreover, since his employment at that school was about 25 years ago, his employment there would provide him with no special insights with respect to 9/11.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
How on earth could someone who worked on the level of a college librarian in the 1980s be privy to top secret information revealing a vast hidden conspiracy? And how on earth could he be the only person to know about it or think it worth revealing?
But then again racists aren't known for their critical thinking skills.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@TheAntiV I'm gonna keep pounding this into your little jew brain! 9/11 was done by YOUR PEOPLE! Why? To get us into fighting Israel's wars for them! That's exactly why 9/11 happened. It was not pulled off by some rag head living in a cave!
9/11 was an Israeli/Mossad false flag operation! 200 Israelis were arrested for celebrating when the towers fell. They even said on a TV show in Tel Aviv that they were there to "document the event". Are you fucking kidding me? You're worthless!
Sambuca6178 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
Again I'm not only Jewish. But go ahead and call me that. It only proves why the vast majority of Americans see you people as the idiots you truly are. And it's not because of some conspiracy against poor little you.
"200 Israelis were arrested for celebrating when the towers fell. "
According to who? Where? Hundreds of Palestinians were also seen celebrating the towers falling.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@TheAntiV There you go again supporting the jewish media machine. That clip they showed of Muslims "celebrating 9/11" was bullshit. They were celebrating a day of peace and that clip was used for 9/11. Do you see how fucking easy it is to tell a lie? Because you believe everything you see on television. Those are the facts! You believe EVERYTHING! Let me write in all caps so you can understand this now. YOU BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON THE NEWS...PERIOD!!!
Sambuca6178 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
Actually they weren't celebrating a day of peace. Snopes did research on the subject and proves that the footage of Palestinians dancing was accurate whether you like it or not.
snopes(dot)com/rumors/cnn(dot)asp
People with low intelligence like you should have been aborted.
YOU A DUMB RACIST TWAT WHO BELIEVES EVERYTHING HE READS ON THE INTER AND WHO ENJOYS SUCKING HITLER'S DEAD COCK!
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
LOL!!! I fucking love morons like you who think they've won. Seriously you have no idea how lucky you are we aren't face to face. I would dominate you to the point that you'd consider suicide an option in order to avoid confronting your humiliating defeat. You're nothing more than a waste and a piece of shit.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@TheAntiV I've been reading your hysterically ignorant posts on this comment section. You have zero debating skill, and even less real insight.
pretorious700 2 months ago
@pretorious700
Yeah because calling someone a wop isn't ignorant, dumdass.
TheAntiV 2 months ago
@Sambuca6178
Here it’s suggested that saying “our purpose was to document the event” is in itself somehow suspicious, that it indicates foreknowledge. Why? We’ve no idea. Every single person who pointed a camera at the WTC on 9/11 did so because they wanted to “document the event”. The phrase indicates precisely nothing at all.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@TheAntiV No, retard. The phrase, "Our purpose was to document the event" means, "We've had foreknowledge." That's what it translates to. There is a difference between someone "documenting the event" vs. "our purpose was to document the event." THOSE were the guys who were caught celebrating when it happened because they knew the attacks would benefit their country. Do you see how this works now? It's not rocket science! The official story of 9/11 is just a bowl of shit rotting away.
Sambuca6178 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
Actually it doesn't mean they had forknowledge. You just assumed that. And if they did why the fuck would they admit it on live television? Not to mention the fact that the FBI let them go. You truly are a fucking moron.
Also, it's clear you don't know anything about what happened. For instance witnesses say they saw the van pull up AFTER the first plan hit. You really need to stop believing in what you see and read on the internet.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178 just out of curiousity, how do you people know it was the jews that did this?
israelgaribaldi 3 weeks ago
@israelgaribaldi It wasn't the Jewish people who orchestrated 9/11. It was the Zionist Jews who did. There is a big difference. Believe it or not, the Jews also have their own kind of extremism which may be hard for some of you to accept. Just like the Italians and the Mafia, the Germans and the Nazis, the Russians and the communists, etc. You get my drift? WTC 7 was wired for demolition on 9/11 and Larry Silverstein cashed in on 6 billion dollars. There's way more...
Sambuca6178 3 weeks ago
You Americans are a plague to this planet
gemcommunityorg 4 months ago
@gemcommunityorg You can't put us all in the same category. We're not only at war with countries we should NOT be involved in, we the people are at war with ourselves. Thanks to the 2 "dominant" parties who were created to divide and conquer the American people. I agree, most Americans here are a plague to this planet. But it's mainly our government which is controlled by Zionist Jews who call the shots. Anytime we speak out against anything, they arrest us or kill us. Please pray for us!
Sambuca6178 3 months ago
By your response i can tell you guys are already on the road to recovery im no one to judge, its just some times the emotions over flow, im humbled by your humidity,you see the elites of this world have no empathy for other human beings,even the brave men and women of your military are treated like shit,i hope one day your soldiers over throw the white house & all the KKK members in their, senators have been the same for years dose not matter who the president is its the same old same old
gemcommunityorg 3 months ago
@gemcommunityorg
...... said the person who lives in a country that was once an empire that controlled one third of the planet.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
Why didn't Anthony go at Alex Jones like this when he was on their show?
PaindontHurt1 4 months ago
@PaindontHurt1 i heard the whole thing, as much as i think Alex is a HUGE conspiracy nut, he did back up everything he said with facts. thats why Ant didnt say anything,cause he knew deep down he knew he would lose the second he asked ok, show me some evidence.
UFCfanboy7898 4 months ago
Michael Moore is fatty fat fatso.
Edubbplate 4 months ago
Gulf of Tonkin anyone?
544001 5 months ago
THATS BULL SHIT THESE GUYS ARE FUCKING STUPID HE DIDNT TAKE CREDIT FOR IT HE WASNT EVEN ON THE FBI'S MOST WANTED FOR IT!
these guys are assholes they bitch at people for not letting them say there side of the debate but yet they SCREAM at other people and talk over them
fuck this id rather listen to freebeerandhotwings
BrokenMegaMan 5 months ago
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I hear a lot of conspiracy theorists say they heard (or heard of) the sound of explosions just before each tower collapsed, and use that as evidence of a planned detonation. However, it was pretty clear to the more rational of us that those were the sounds of the initial floors collapsing onto each other just before the outer structure started to break.
boom -- boom -- boom - boom-boomboomboom.............. You could only hear the first few as distinct "boom's" apart from the rest.
MikeDeFi 5 months ago
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MikeDeFi 5 months ago
Hey Anthony, why don't you show us a clear shot of a plane going into the pentagon, you pathetic douchebag?? Keep sucking on that zionist cock there buddy!
Sambuca6178 6 months ago
@Sambuca6178
How about you refute all of the eye witness reports of people saying they saw a plane going into the building you stupid fucking anti-semitic retard?
TheAntiV 5 months ago 4
@TheAntiV Oh here we go with the anti-Semitic bullshit. Like I give a fuck! In case you are misinformed, Muslims are Semites too, dipshit. Did you even know that? A Semite is anyone of Middle Eastern decent who speaks a Semitic language such as Hebrew or Arabic. But you obviously didn't know that. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. About those eyewitnesses: You mean those people who were bought out by the govt to cover their asses? Zionist Jews are the only anti-Semites! Fuck off!
Sambuca6178 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
Actually, Islam is a religion, not a cultural linguistic group. In fact most Muslims aren't even Arab. I guess that home schooling didn't work out for you much.
Sorry, but arguing semantics isn't going to help you get out of this one. Anti-semitism is a term used for anyone who discriminates Jews. Sorry, but you aren't smart. you're just another paranoid delusional cretin who assumes that everything he reads from the internet is true.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@TheAntiV Yeah you're right. I should just go along to get along. Never question anything that seems obvious or fishy, right? Just listen to the fucking mainstream news channels because THEY know everything, right? I wish I controlled the media like the Jews do, so that I could make someone report that drinking sulfuric acid can help you sleep better at night. I wonder how many morons like you would actually drink it!
You're a disgrace to humanity. Don't ever have children.
Sambuca6178 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
There's a big difference between questioning something and making completely baseless and ridiculous claims that have been refuted numerous times.
I don't watch a lot of mainstream news stations. But if I made a bet I'm sure they'd be a whole lot more fucking accurate than the crazies you listen to on the internet.
"I wish I controlled the media like the Jews do"
ANd you wonder why people call you an anti-semite.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@TheAntiV So basically, what you're saying is that it is anti-Semitic to tell the truth. That's all I'm getting out of your stupid ass! You're also telling me that the mainstream news reporters obviously know everything about physics when you have hundreds of architects and engineers who call bullshit on the 9/11 event. Are you a fucking joke? The answer is yes! YOU are the anti-Semite. Not me! You support the Zionist agenda to kill and rape Palestinian children, so go fuck yourself!
Sambuca6178 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
That's assuming anything you're saying is true. But ask any historian or scientists and they'll just point out the fact that you're nothing more than a racist terrorist.
Currently there are over 120,000 engineers who make up the American Society of Civil Engineers yet not one of them make the baseless conspiracy theories you do. In fact they collectively released there own report on the tower's collapse which runs contrary to what you're saying.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
LOL!!! So every person doesn't agree with you supports the raping of Palestinian children? You seriously need to stop living in your little fantasy world. In fact the majority of Israelis want piece.
But since you enjoy generalizing I guess it's okay for me to assume that you support the agenda of murdering Jews and supporting suicide bombings.
Tell me, have you ever read anything in your life that has been peer reviewed?
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
And your evidence that they were paid to lie is where? Why don't you do yourself and everyone a favor and just shut the hell up.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@TheAntiV Exactly! You zionist jews are all the same. "JUST KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT." Why? Where is my freedom of speech? I have a right to discriminate anyone I want to, even if it is the zionist Jews who control everything. So now, I demand to take away YOUR freedom of speech. Why don't YOU shut the fuck up and go rape some Palestinian children, you worthless fuck!
Sambuca6178 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
I'm not even Jewish you stupid fucking brainless cunt. Seriously, why do racist conspiracytards always make that silly assumption that everyone who disagrees with you is Jewish? Is it so hard for you to handle the fact that your opposition makes up more than 0.2% of the world population?
Sorry, but you aren't a very bright person and you're only proving to everyone want a crazy fucking moron you truly are.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@TheAntiV YES you are fucking jewish! I can fucking smell it because it is so obvious how adamant you are in defending the Zionist Jews. So shut the fuck up, and climb back into your fucking gas chamber...PUNK! You are really stinking this world up! But what do jews do best? They fucking lie like you just did to me! NOT JEWISH MY ASS!!! lmfao.
Sambuca6178 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
You know what I love about racists like you? None of you have the balls to say this to someones face. By making racist insults you only further prove the violent tendencies behind your disturbed mindset. That's why inbred cretins like you commit terrorist attacks and robberies. You're nothing more than an embarresment to society.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@Sambuca6178
Let's be honest. Racists like you are nothing but an embarrassment to the community and society at large. Your claims barely amount to nothing more than an embarrassing afterfart of an ideology long dead which is either scorned or laughed at.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
@TheAntiV listen im a hard core Zionist and i dont believe the b.s. of the 911 report. dont make it a a anti semitic issue because it isnt. look up Barry Chamish a Israeli war veteran and writer he doesnt believe it either.
mac163 2 months ago
@mac163
I only made it into an anti-Semitic thing when he brought Jews into it.
TheAntiV 2 months ago
@TheAntiV i understand, theres is allways some one thats going to take advantage of an incident by blaming a certain group of people (steriotyping) its like blaming all germans for world war 2 or all americans for the war in Iraq, for a certain event for political gain etc,its wrong. but in the case of 911 theres too many unanswered questions. who knows? we may never know the whole truth, again check out Barry Chamish for a different prespective,
mac163 2 months ago
@TheAntiV The conspiracy theorists arent saying planes never flew into the buildings
louiscfc93 2 months ago
@louiscfc93 Ace Baker claims that no planes hit WTC. He's one of your conspiracy theory buddies.
m015094 1 month ago
@m015094 So because one guy is retarded it means there was nothing that happend on 9/11 that was dodgey ?
louiscfc93 1 month ago
@louiscfc93 Why are you disavowing him? I mean, he uses as much proof as you do - none.
m015094 1 month ago
@m015094 There is a difference between asking questions and saying planes never flew into the buildings or that it was a missile that hit the pentagon. Plus you have no proof im a conspiracy theorist so i guess you are just as bad as him for jumping to conclusions.
louiscfc93 1 month ago
Opie and Dopie have both been sucked into the Zionist Jew media machine. I used to have respect for their radio show until 9/11 happened because they are against questioning government. Fuck those pussies!
Sambuca6178 6 months ago
@Sambuca6178
Shut up, stupid.
Daathaan 6 months ago
@Daathaan Go fuck urself...Zionist!
Sambuca6178 6 months ago
@Sambuca6178 HAIL SATAN AND THE FREEMASONS RULE!
You dumb son of a bitch and it's 'yourself' you illiterate dunce.
Daathaan 6 months ago
@Daathaan Well, Satan and the freemasons are ruling the USA. There's no question about that. And excuse me Einstein for misspelling "yourself". I figured why not just cut 2 letters out because it would save me that one extra second from replying to your dumb ass.
Sambuca6178 6 months ago
@Sambuca6178 Yes. I'm a dumb ass yet you believe in the unfounded.
Daathaan 6 months ago
@Daathaan Right, and you believe that burning jet fuel can melt steel and pulverize concrete buildings into dust. Way to go, fuckhead! lol
Sambuca6178 6 months ago
@Sambuca6178 I never said anything of the sort. If you want my opinion I'm more than happy to discuss the subject but I will not argue with you if you're this fanatical about the unreal belief that the US government is controlled by a global Zionist organization and are collaborating with Aliens wanting to invade on December 12, 2012. I simply won't see you as someone who is credible and can have a logical discussion.
Daathaan 6 months ago
@Sambuca6178
Nice straw man there shithead. First of all the jet fuel didn't need to melt the steel for the building to collapse. It only needed to weaken it. You obviously have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
TheAntiV 3 months ago
the WMD's were not explosives type..Iraq was going to sell oil to the Euro money countries like Germany, France, Holland ect.. but England and US were not invited...there's your weapon,,WIII is a financial war ,,currency war... war for oil sucks!
pifou112 6 months ago
This dude has swallowed the cool aide... WOW
KwuNorthstar 6 months ago
7:28 "did you read the 9/11 commission report"
"no nigga" LMAO
JoshRobertson142 6 months ago
Good discussion.
Anthony was going strong until he pulled that "they hate us for our freedoms" bullshit, proving he's a brainwashed idiot even if he's right about 9-11.
Vebinz 7 months ago
@Vebinz You're right. They hate us because our leaders are in partnership with all the evil dictators that make their country shitty. I'd hate us too probably.
dogshittaco24 7 months ago
@ScottishNonBeliever intelligent truther?...There arent any!.
MrEestimaa 7 months ago
"remember the Maine"???? Someone should tell Anthony that was are pretext into getting into the Spanish-American War of 1898. In which a US Navy ship the Maine was in habor in Havana if im not mistaken and expolded killing many of its crew. In any event the media really drum up anti-spainish sentiment in the US blaming the explosion on Spain, which even in that date some believed it was an accidental explosion which was later proven in the 70's. Long story short we kicked spains ass
drunkNbored9 7 months ago
@drunkNbored9 Damn props to you sir, just another reason patrice is making some good valid points that i never would've picked up on. I mean think about it we went into most wars because of tragic attack.. pearl harbor.... 9/11.. the attack on our ship which got us involved in WW2... and even what you said
blackbone330 6 months ago
Patrice O'Neal: "You need the backing of the American people to go to war." .... How does he explain Libya?
7deadlyvirtues 8 months ago
What is funny is that now there has been evidence to show there was a cover up.
Youngmoon08 8 months ago
isn't it more likely that we just used these attacks as the EXCUSE to invade Iraq, rather than we orchestrated them to invade Iraq...considering Iraq was the SECOND PLACE WE INVADED AND NOT THE FIRST. IF WE'RE GONNA ACCUSE FUCKING IRAQ FOR THIS WHY DIDN'T WE FRAME FUCKING IRAQ AND NOT BIN LADEN. FUCK!!!!!
stevepants 8 months ago
@stevepants If the war on terror has an legitimacy whatsoever then why didn't we invade Saudi Arabia, in light of the fact that 15 0f the 19 alleged hijackers were Saudi. We didn't take any action against the Saudis whatsoever? The Bush administration was loyal allies with the Saudis. Explain that.
niverent 8 months ago
Debating whether 9/11 was a conspiracy is pointless right now. The only thing important is that we're at our maximum amount of national debt, the dollar has lost a substantial amount of value, gas prices are consistently rising every day and the price of goods continues to rise as well. The only thing not going up is our take home pay. I'm all for fighting against tyranny, but at some point we need to ask why we're getting fucked in the process.
JorshWarshington 9 months ago
@JorshWarshington Well don't forget these wars have a huge price tag associated with them. You ever look into how much profit miltary contractors are making well everyone else is getting fucked seven ways to Sunday? It's outrageous.
niverent 8 months ago
Somebody should tell this loud mouth fuck that WMDs were an admitted lie (documented, open, publicly admitted by the government.)
BrightDigitalProduct 9 months ago
He wants one thing: WTC7. Freefall speed for 2.25 seconds. Absoultely 100% physcially impossible without all strutcural components being simulatenously emoved across the entire width of the building. Fire can't do that. Case closed. ANyone that says otherwise is either lying or too stupid to understand the simple physics involved.
niverent 10 months ago
@niverent 1 spot on the north facade of wtc hit freefall for 2.5 seconds...guess why? Cause the interior structure had already fallen away. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Oz1976 10 months ago
@Oz1976 It wasn't one spot you fucking moron, the entire width of the building fell at freefall. NIST admits this. Your claim that the outside structure was standing while the entire interior had collapsed is just stupid.
niverent 10 months ago
@niverent No they don't. Go read the report. One area of the north face fell at freefall for 2.5 seconds. Nothing more. The curtain of the building WAS the last to fall, go look at the NIST model dumbshit....the south interior had given way, column 79 had failed and started a chain reaction progressive collapse within the building. Watch the complete collapse video where you can see the East Mechanical penthouse fall completely through the building. You don't have a clue, and should go read.
Oz1976 10 months ago
@Oz1976 You are lying. The NIST report doesn't say it is only one part. The NIST model looks nothing like the collapse. And you are contradicting even yourself: a "chain reaction" and freefall speed is mutually contradictory. You have nothing but lies and self-denial.
niverent 10 months ago
@niverent Yes, the NIST report, DOES say one portion, and no I'm not contradicting myself, you're just too stupid to comprehend it. The internal chain reaction, aka Progressive Collapse, removed the interior, shit watch the fucking NIST computer model and you can easilly see this. The free fall speed only occured on a portion of the north face after the collapse had already removed the interior supports from that section. It's pretty fucking simple.
/watch?v=ntBb02XtcvI
Oz1976 10 months ago
@Oz1976 A progressive collapse cannot lead to freefall in any way you fucking moron. They are mutually contradictory. Progressive collapse means freefall speeds impossible. Freefall speeds means its not a progressive collapse. Why? Because for there to be freefall speeds that means ALL structural components must be completely and simultaneously removed.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent sigh, you really are not too bright.... PART OF THE BUILDING for 2.5 seconds hit freefall...AND YES it was PART of the PROGRESSIVE COLLAPSE. No they aren't. You're an idiot...NIST even says "what we have here is a new form of progressive collapse." The curtain was able to hit freefall BRIEFLY, because the interior progressive collapse had removed enough support from that area. Get over it. You're wrong and don't have a damn clue what you're talking about. NIST > you.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 You don't get it there is no "part" in a progressive collapse that will have freefall speed. That is because is in a progressive collapse eveything, by its very nature, doesn't happen instantaneously. For freefall to occur everything is instantaneous.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent No you don't get it. There is a part in THIS progressive collapse that a SMALL SECTION of the North Face achieved freefall, because the internal progression had cleared the load bearing columns from that section already. You're wrong. There was no TOTAL FREEFALL...just a SECTION on the NORTH FACE. Get over it,, you don't understand what you're talking about.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 There was total freefall for 2.5 seconds. NIST acknowledges this in their report. The fact that you have to LIE about this says it all.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent no there wasn't...
From: nist . gov/public_affairs/factsheet/wtc_qa_082108.cfm
regarding one point on the north face:
•Stage 1 (0 to 1.75 seconds): acceleration less than that of gravity (i.e., slower than free fall).
•Stage 2 (1.75 to 4.0 seconds): gravitational acceleration (free fall)
•Stage 3 (4.0 to 5.4 seconds): decreased acceleration, again less than that of gravity
I suggest you read the NIST report entirely. And FYI: Freefall is not characteristic of controlled demo.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 Yes, stage two: freefall for 2.25 seconds. Where does it say anything about only one part liar? They measure from one point, that doens't mean only one point fell. One can see that the roofline stays level, which means it wasn't only one point. You liar. Anyone can watch the video and verify this for themselves.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent sigh you do not know how to comprehend anything do you? GO READ THE WHOLE REPORT FROM WHERE THAT CAME! It is in reference to ONE POINT on the NORTH FACE. I'm done with you. You're a fucking idiot who can't comprehend simple english, much less the NIST report when it's right there in front of your face. I'm not the liar, you and the "truth" movement are.
Dick Gage - Liar
Steven Jones - Liar
Dylan Avery - Liar
Alex Jones - Liar
Luke Rudkowski - Thief and Liar
Judy Wood - delusional
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 They measured one point. That doesn't mean only one point fell at freefall, and when you say this you are lying. Anyone can see for themselves that the roofline stays level.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent The roofline stays level? really? that's a blatant misrepresentation of the facts. East penthouse collapses, crimp forms, roofline is not level, more interior collapse, more crimp, then full curtain collapse. /watch?v=jS2xj1M_N9k
Oh yeah...rEALLY stays level...not two distinct crimps or anything...ROFL!
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 I'm not going to argue with you about whether the roofline stays level or not because anyone can watch it for themselves and make up their own mind. As far as the crimp goes that is classic controlled demolition.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent It's also classic progressive collapse. Enjoy living in your deluded fantasy. Most truthers have gotten over it and realized their stupidity. More and more coming back to JREF forums admitting they were terribly misinformed.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 Classic Progressive Collapse...that's ridiculous! Why would NIST taken 8 or 9 years to explain it if it was "classic Progressive collapse"? Why would they say its collapse was mysterious for all that time?? And they concluded the collapse wasn't classic at all but due to a novel phenomenon (thermal expansion) that wasn't known to be able to cause collapse. You can't write anything without lying.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent NIST took so long so they could be certain their report would be accurate to limit challenges from what was then a rising idiocy of controlled demolition fanaticism. They've answered all your idiotic questions, go read the entire report. Sorry, the lies lie with the "truth" movement, not me...no matter how many times you say it, it will not make it so. Keep spewing it though, it's obvious you've abandoned all rational and critical thought...that's what happens when you think you KNOW
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 No. You said it was a "classic progressive collapse." Which not even NIST agress with. You literally can't get anything right.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent WRONG WRONG WRONG. Here moron, since you're too stupid to look it up:
wtc.nist . gov/media/testimony/TestimonySept8_06.pdf
(On pg 2.)
"this hypothesis suggests that WTC 7 was a classic progressive collapse that included:"
He then elaborates later saying: ( wtc7. net/cache/nist_wtc082108.html)
When this critical column buckled due to lack of floor supports, it was the first domino in the chain, What followed in rapid succession was a progression of structural failures. (cont..)
Oz1976 9 months ago
@niverent
continued
Failure first occurred all the way to the roof line—involving all three interior columns on the most eastern side of the building. Then, progressing from east to west across WTC 7, all of the columns in the core of the building failed. Finally, the entire façade collapsed.”
Owned, now shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 You didn't own shit bitch. watch?v=U0GW6QXKyp0 Watch at the :55 second mark. Anyone with two fucking eyes can see the roofline stayed level. So they can either believe their own two eyes or they can believe your lies. Owned, now shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down tough guy.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent LOL. The roof line does not stay level, it's been proven, you seriously need to get your eyes checked. You're a dumb fucking truther with no evidence only deluded fantasies. WTC 7 was not control demo, WTC 1 and 2 were not controlled demo. The Bush Administration is only guilty of not heeding the warnings more thoroughly. Larry Silverstein didn't make any money, he lossed his ass. You're an idiot.
/watch?v=jS2xj1M_N9k < you can easilly see the roofline dips more in the middle.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 Roofline stays level: watch?v=U0GW6QXKyp0 The kink is actually one of the indications that it is a controlled demolition.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent No, the kink is indication that the interior of the building has collapsed, as is the fact that preceeds the kink the entire East Mechanical Penthouse collapses throughout the building which can clearly be seen on the COMPLETE collapse videos, windows get blown out from the top down following the path of the penthouse. You have no clue, stop trying.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 Yes, the kink and the wiondows getting blown out are both signs of contolled demolition. As are the explosions. The molten metal also cannot be explained by office fires. Freefall speed is completely impossible in a progressive collapse. Everything you say is indicative of a controlled demolition.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent No they aren't, they're a sign that the fucking penthouse fell through the building. There were no explosions in building 7...not one video of building 7's collapse has any hint of detonations, cutter charges or anything. Freefall speed is not impossible in progressive collapse when it's only ONE point on the north face and only for 2.5 seconds. Again FREEFALL IS NOT INDICATIVE OF CD, YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON AND DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT. You're so wrong it's laughable.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 It wasn't just one point on the north face. That is a lie on your part. Freefall is indicative of freefall speed because fro freefall to occur all support must be completely and simultaneously removed which obviously ins't the case in a progressive collapse collapse (i.e. a chain of events). If you are too stupid to comprehend this that is your problem, but I will be here exposing your lies as long as you persist in telling them.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent It was one point, you're dumb...ridicule is all you will recieve from me here...you want to continue your idiotic lies, I will be more than happy to, not here though...we've taken up enough posts on this video.
(forums.randi . org/forumdisplay .php?f=64)
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 No Liar, it is one point they measured. The building falls as a unit as anyone can see here watch?v=VTy3RYDj0lk&feature=related Your lies are very transparent.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent No it doesn't, you're a moron.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 "No it doesn't" - that is your denial in its purest form. Just a total denial of reality. Here is WTC7 falling as a unit, deny it all you want, but it is plain to see watch?v=VTy3RYDj0lk&feature=related
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent No, that's only the curtain falling, the internal failure collapse has long since progressed. You're wrong. Get off youtube, go get your information from somewhere other than biased propaganda videos dipshit.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 Ah, "the curtain"...is that an engineering term? Tell me, if everything inside has long since collapsed by the time "the curtain" collpases why does "the curtain" fall straight down? Wouldn't the curtain topple over since nothing is supporting it? Your explanation is transparently retarded.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent You're dumb and obviously haven't read NCSTAR nor the wtc 7 models or reports.
wtc.nist . gov
Read it ALL. Comprehend it. Or is the fact that it has a .gov at the end make it immediately disinformation in your utter lunacy and deluded fantasy world.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 Interesting that you mentioned NIST's collapse model. Compare it with reality watch?v=WnXeUIaYj3k&feature=channel_video_title Anyone can see that there collapse model looks nothing like the observed collapse. Notice how in NISTs model the facade, or "curtain" as you refer to it, folds inward, but in the actual collapse the facade does not fall inwards.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent No, the curtain falls to the south after it's passed the south facade threshold which actually collapsed firts. You can see this easilly if you watch the cOMPLETE collapse AND view the debris pattern from the aerial photography. But you're too fucking dumb to do that, no you'd rather believe some bullshit controlled demo of 7 that had ZERO cutter charge explosions and ZERO "squibs". You would rather believe in the super secret HUSH-A-BOOM explosives.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 Um, we've already established that explosions were heard. Now you are trying to say none were heard. How come you can't keep your story straight?
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent not controlled demo explosions, your semantics are noted however, keep up the good twoofer work when most are abandoning you. There were no CUTTER CHARGE / SEQUENCED explosions. You know it. I know it. No matter how much you lie and twist and cherry pick, it will not change the fact that neither WTC 1 or 2, nor WTC 7 were controlled demolition. End of discussion. You're an idiot.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 First you say there were explosions. Then you say there were no explosions. Then you say there were explosions. Sorry, but it is plain to see you are full of shit.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent More semantics and you know it. You're beaten and you know it. You're wrong and you know it. So you try and turn it around into attacks. You are the one that's full of shit. I clearly denoted WHAT KIND of explosions. There were no CD explosions, there WERE electrical explosions and other things that explode that were not of the BOMB variety or CUTTER CHARGE variety or SEQUENCED CHARGE variety. But it's clear you can't comprehend that. Explosions do not mean bombs. You're a moron.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 I'm not beaten at all. First you said there were explosions. Then you say there weren't. Then you say there were, but you claim they weren't a certain type of explosion. Then you hypocritically accuse me of engaging in semantics. As far as an actual description of the explosions from an actual witness here is a description from an NYPD cop watch?v=CIIF6P8zBG8&feature=channel_video_title "Thoom thoom thoom thoom thoom" sure sounds like a sequence to me. Is the NYPD cop lying?
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent You're too retarded to continue this. You can't differentiate simple meanings in english. In 10 years you haven't figured out 9/11 and you cling to controlled demolition like Christians do to the second coming of Jesus. You're wrong. I'm done with you. Using an NYPD cop to further your agenda is dispicable. You can't even comprehend that he's using simile and metaphor to describe what it was like, not what it was. DIAF please.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 No, what is despicable is you lying about what the cop said. watch?v=CIIF6P8zBG8&feature=channel_video_title He said he heard a succession of explosions. Everything you say is a lie. Why is that? Why is it that I can show clips that disprove without exception every single one of your claims. I have made claims and backed them all up with evidence and all you can do is lie about.
niverent 9 months ago
@niverent No, it's dispicable you're taking his statement out of context as a typical truther. Pro tip: that cop DOES NOT believe as you do. He was describing WHAT IT WAS LIKE...it's called a metaphor (or in his case a SIMILE). Dumbass.
Oz1976 9 months ago