In the updated version, Han only shot to defend himself, to save his own life, as Greedo tried to kill him
In the original version, Greedo was going to take him at gunpoint to Jabba the Hut, at which point he would be killed. He's still shotting to save his own life, because he has no other alternative. I don't really see the point of the updated version
Sooo.... They tried to make Han a better role model for kids by making it look like he was just defending himself, instead of just killing Greedo like any smart person would? Part of the reason Han shot first was so that he would be made out to be just a self-centered smuggler. That way there's a more powerful contrast by the end of the movies, when he grows into a more selfless man who actually cares about others. It's character development at its most basic, and George Lucas overlooked it.
Han shot first in the original, then because people are so stupid they switched it. Han shot because han was not a good guy, he was a bad guy. Then they adjusted it to make him a not so bad guy from the beginning
Blu-ray version Greedo shoots first but the blasts are almost at the same time... But IMO Han will have always shot first, how can Greedo shoot before the Original in 1977?
if you go frame-by-frame, you can see it cut back to greedo just before the explosion. besides, why would any bounty hunter kill han in the first place? as boba fett later said, "he's no good to me dead"
Now that I see both, it looks to me like the updated version is using original footage that was cut from the original version. They may have added in laser beams, but the motion of Greedo's gun and the smoke seems unedited. If that's true, it would mean Lucas' original direction was for Greedo to shoot first. Then a later decision was made to cut that portion of the film out.
Now Han is compelled to shoot since Greedo says he's about to do it, but that could also have been added in afterward.
This is going to sound weird, but I actually want to find the clip from 1997. I'm well aware of how the scene went down in 2004, but I don't recall the Special Edition's take.
b) In 1997, Greedo shot first and *then* Han shoots. In 2004, they shoot at approximately the same time (albeit Greedo fires a few frames first). It is commonly believed that George Lucas changed it in '04 in an attempt to compromise with outraged fans.
@MattakaMouse EXACTLY why is it so much cooler? just because it's ORIGINAL ooooh wow big deal haha besides, the whole "who shot first" thing makes no sense seeing as in the original han is the only one who shoots, so it would only apply to the remastered version.
@archadia212 han shooting greedo in cold blood showed that han was a badass. this makes it meaningful when he later starts to care about other characters. making greedo shoot & miss, then han shoot him, not only neuters han as a character, but it's pretty stupid for a bounty hunter to try to kill his target for no reason- then he wouldn't get the bounty. i agree though, "han shot first" is silly- there is no "first" if the other guy doesn't shoot at all.
what about the scene in Revenge of the Sith where Yoda killed the clone troopers who were about to kill him? he didn't wait for them to shoot, he just whipped out his lightsaber and beheaded them, so wouldn't that make him a murderer as well?
Thanks for the clip. I had just read about the blueray set announcement. And the Han shot first thing. The article mentioned THREE versions. The original 1977 Han shot first, which I remembered. A 1997 update with Greedo missing the mark, which I did not screen. And a third 2004 updated update in which Han digitaly enhanced dodges Greedo's first shot. This I think is the version that caught my eye most recently on a TV airing. I was like, "Huh? I don't remember it going that way before!"
Of course Han shot first, who wouldn't shoot first if you have a gun pointed at you. Everyone likes Billy the Kid and I remember a story where he secretly takes the bullets out a guys gun, hands it back, provokes the man to shoot, doesn't kill Billy and Billy fires after and kills the guy. Billy was an outlaw and so was Han, it's ok for bad guys to do bad things.
Eu assisti star wars 4 vezes em 1977,época de estreia,e lembro que Han foi o único a atirar! ele já estava de saco cheio e finalizou a conversa! Acho que a nova edição,quer mostrar que ele era um bandido contrabandista "bonzinho"! Era melhor realmente,a primeira versão ,que mostrava a transformação de um mercenário sem escrúpulo em herói da noite pro dia! era bem mais convincente!
This proves why Lucas did not entirely create the original trilogy at all. As time's gone on he's gained total control over what happens in the films and you can see the end results in the prequels and the shittily updated special edition.
Han is not a dumbass nor he is pussy - He is badass and is quick.
Re-editing this scene makes Han a fucking dumbass like rest of cliche Hollywood movie good-guys-what-magicaly-avoid-death" .
( btw, Yeh, maybe you would wait to get shot in the face. For you thats nothing)
Instead, lets make cliche Hollywood move - lets make a good guy wait to die, and then MAGICALY dodge the bullet. Lets make the bad guy - miss from such range. .. Laughable.
@Chaostos well yeah,epecially because Han is SUPPOSED to be "a bad guy" he is a fucking smuggler and it makes no sense to re edit the scene,also because it makes no sense that a bounty hunter has less accuracy then a stormtrooper!!!
@gravediger1 Han is a murderer. The thing is that before he got caught up with Luke and Obi Wan Han was a bad man. Remember what Obi Wan said about Mos Eisley spaceport and the type of beings there. Han didn't want to be collected as a bounty so he did what anyone on the run would do and get rid of the hunter that had a bead on him. He did show some civility by tossing the credit to the bartender for the mess and apologizing showing his chance for redemption in that particular scene.
Ah, this makes sense now. Seeing as I wasn't born before 1977, I only really remember the updated version, and remember Greedo shooting first. Having said that... what poor aim for a supposed bounty hunter, lol.
The original is best. Han shoots and Greedo doesn't have a chance. Han deals with the roughest people in the Galaxy, he has to be brutal just to survive to this point. He isn't supposed to be a nice guy. He is a rogue. lol and a great shot.
The original shot made hans character look more badass, that was the point, he is a scoundrel after all. The remakes ruined the original film by taking away the feel of broken down technology and everyone struggling to live under the wrath of the empire.
where Greedo shoots first Han seems unnaturally calm. If someone misses a shot by 2 inches i would be screaming: DID YOU FUCKING SEE THAT OMG I ALMOST GOT SHOT!!! I RUUUUUUULEEEE!!!
George Lucas had this particular scene edited from the original to make it look like greedo shot first when in actuality in the original han shot first. This change was done so Han Solo didn't look like such a bad guy.
Which is a stupid decision since Han Solos character developement was about getting from the thug to the hero. Perhaps Lucas should've just an hero himself.
In the revised version it's clear solo is moved digitally to dodge the shot from Greedo. So the Greedo shot wasn't a deleted scene, it even never was filmed.
i think han shooting first instead of returning fire does say a lot about the caracter. so when you think about it: is han a man hwo does kill in order to not be cought, or is he just some guy in self-defense?
since this scene pretty much introduces the character that also defins him to the viewer and by changeing it to greedo shooting first people that never saw star wars will get another first impression of the han character.
But then how do we know if the guns in star wars rnt just really hard to shoot and thats y greedo missed cuz if u think about it the storm troopers suck at shooting too and pretty much everyone els does
If ur saying the origonal one is the only one that counts then how do we know if they didnt just shot at the same time but han was the only one to hit cuz its just a big thing of smoke
The whole "Han didn't shoot first" argument is ridiculous. I guess in George Lucas' mind, if someone holds a gun to his head, he's going to wait for him to shoot first before he retaliates. But, oh wait... it's kind of hard to shoot someone in retaliation if they shoot you first and kill you. This just makes Greedo like an incompetent idiot who can't even hit his target when he's sitting three feet in front of him.
I really hate George Lucas for this change, he said it was because he thought the message was too dark if Solo killed Greedo without a first shot from Greedo, what it does is ruin the character development, but we shouldnt be surprised since Lucas went so Soft on the prequels, he's a terrible filmmaker, and should have been prevented from making these changes, this is what happend when a filmmaker has too much control of his film. disgusting.
well i disagree that he's a terrible filmmaker, cause he gave us the original star wars. buuuut I will say this, like any "artist" given the chance to go back and so call fix things (cgi aside, 'cause that was a dumb choice) he royally fucked that part up. and yes, disgusting for sure.
Yeah, the whole "Han shooting first makes him a bad guy" concept is just retarded anyway.. if someone has a gun pointed at your face saying that they are gonna kill you then you are not a the bad guy for shooting them first.
The original scene also referenced The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. In a similar scene, some guy was pointing a gun at somebody in the bathtub and yapping. But he didn't realize the guy in the bathtub (Tuco) had a gun hidden under the bubbles.
I heard that George Lucas made the change partly so that Han didn't seem like a badguy, shooting first. To like, set a better example or something stupid. I don't know if it's true, I just heard it.
Of course Han shot first. It was the only shot fired. George Lucas is a fat dumb shit (not as dumb as 20th Century Fox) who made an absolutely unnecessary change to a classic film. And from what I hear, another Star Wars film is in the works. Star Wars ended in 1983.
I don't think this puts any negative light on Lucas, he may have wanted Greedo to shoot first to show Hans skills, as well as the urgency posed by the bounty hunters.
episodes 1-3 though, now, that goes without saying
FUCKERS! HAN SHOT FIRST! ALWAYS HAVE, ALWAYS WILL! they only changed it because people kept bitching about it, "han can't kill without being threatened, he's a hero!" bull fuckin shit. people bitching is how we got the shitty prequals
What the hell is so great about the original version? I suppose Mulholland is a better Hutt than the CGI ones as well? This is as dumb as Vader fans being pissed about Palpatine stealing his spotlight. Greedo shot first.
I asume you're refering to Declan Mulholand who was cast as Jabba for the first movie but the footage wasn't used. Your point in non existant. He wasn't in the original movies. What makes the original movies so great is that they were just that, original, with ground breaking special effects. The new versions have the magic taken from them by giving them standard special effects by todays standards. As for who shot first, Han shot in 1977, Gredo didn't shoot 'til 1997. Han wins by 20 years.
Explain that therefore to me. Once again you make point based and meaning nothing. What makes you think Lucas hates Han? and even if he does how does that therefore mean Han shot second?
I don't know why people even question the original. When I watch the movies, I don't really get that great of a feeling of Han being a "hero". He's more like an opportunist. lol. So Han shooting first seems reasonable to me
he didn't, in the original version (re:1977 to the mid nineties) greedo didn't fire at all, han just slickly pulled out his pistol and blasted him, with the release of the special editions (with upgraded special effects, and 90's cgi, and added scenes) Lucas decided that since Han was so poular with little kids, he should kill only in self defense, and changed the scene, the result was cut poorly and somewhat choppy.
Canon, my ass! Cinema is an art form. Would the world like it if Da Vinci used a time machine to paint a pirate hat on the Mona Lisa's head (if it were possible)? Movies are also a commodity. "Products and brands belong to the consumers that use them (business maxim). Coca-Cola's 1985 launch of "New Coke" is regarded as one of the greatest marketing blunders of the 20th century. Just say no to "New Star Wars".
"I have altered the films, pray I do not alter them further." - Darth Lucas
Just cause he changed it to be more kid friendly doesn't make it solid, the original movie is what matters, thats what made it famous and thats what people loved enough for this to even matter lol
Well, not to add into the debate, but I find it really hard to believe that Greedo had the gun pointed at him that whole time and missed the first shot without Han moving at all. Han shot first.
Anyway... Greedo would have shoot after he explained he waited for this.
If Greedo shot first and miss Han at that short distance and Han kills souch a bad shootist by shoot after him....that would be murder.
In the new Version he should pick up Greedos Blaster, after the Guy miss him, and let him eat the Gun.
The Original was political uncorrect. Han Solo is not an Angel. And remember That whole Thing ist Star WARS...People get killen in Wars... It is not Softball Cricett in Space.
Comics were written after the movie, so screw them.
My only loyalty to the Star Wars franchise is the original 3 movies from 30 years ago and Kevins Smiths remake with Maggie Gylenhal, Tobey McGuire, and Ben Aflec.
I admit I made my comment without reading any of the star wars comics, and that was wrong of me, but I hated the new films for their characters. Everyone need to have character flaws or else it's not realistic. Leah kicks Padmé's ass, character-wise.
The editing we see in this video changes the character of Han completely, and for the worse. It makes him a more decent guy, only shooting in self defense, which is not the type of guy he is.
How could Greedo miss from there? Why would Jabba hire such an incompetent marksman?
Condud1 2 days ago
Han shot first!
sonex1203 2 weeks ago
Han shot first. No amount of bullshit editing or cutting can change that.
TehJedicake 3 weeks ago
if you look very closely, greedo shot first
100movieman 3 weeks ago
Um, so what?
TheREALforeverone 1 month ago
I wonder if Greedo was trained in stormtrooper academy. He can't aim at all:P
Suport7000 1 month ago 4
actualy acording to this video...alvin shot fist
SKRIllEXcell 1 month ago 2
The updated version is a twisted version of the old one.
PeterKim1230 1 month ago
@PeterKim1230 A version corrupted by the Dark Side. :-)
sandcrawler200 4 weeks ago
I've never seen the need for any discussion.
In the updated version, Han only shot to defend himself, to save his own life, as Greedo tried to kill him
In the original version, Greedo was going to take him at gunpoint to Jabba the Hut, at which point he would be killed. He's still shotting to save his own life, because he has no other alternative. I don't really see the point of the updated version
Joey100816 1 month ago
Sooo.... They tried to make Han a better role model for kids by making it look like he was just defending himself, instead of just killing Greedo like any smart person would? Part of the reason Han shot first was so that he would be made out to be just a self-centered smuggler. That way there's a more powerful contrast by the end of the movies, when he grows into a more selfless man who actually cares about others. It's character development at its most basic, and George Lucas overlooked it.
thebestusernameeva 1 month ago 3
no
MarineCorps413 1 month ago
Boba shot first...and last.
VongolaAQW223 2 months ago
Han shot first in the original, then because people are so stupid they switched it. Han shot because han was not a good guy, he was a bad guy. Then they adjusted it to make him a not so bad guy from the beginning
chatman55 2 months ago
um yea i gotta ask who cares who shot first han won i dont really think it matters js
rocklee153 2 months ago
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Yeah, HAN NEVER SHOT FIRST . . .
In the first version; Han just says "Yeah, I bet you have!" and Greedo just blows up . . .
I tested it myself; I'm innocent til proven guilty . . .
I hated this dumb bitch who looks down at nerds (like me);
So I said "You must think you're hot stuff." and she's like "Yeah, I've slept with 20 guys."
So I said "Yeah, I bet you have!" and she just blew up . . . bet I know where she is now, lol.
JediDanD 4 months ago
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JediDanD 4 months ago
how in the hell does greedo miss at point blank?
taurn7 4 months ago
@taurn7 Right? For Greedo's pride alone let's just say Han shot first.
eversafter13 1 month ago
IMA FIRIN MAH LAZER. Han shot first. always has, even in the book it says han shot first.
Heychuh 4 months ago
Blu-ray version Greedo shoots first but the blasts are almost at the same time... But IMO Han will have always shot first, how can Greedo shoot before the Original in 1977?
monk302j 4 months ago 3
@TheMsMaister D,:
0hMailanta 4 months ago
ah the updated version..with updated Ani...
TheMsMaister 4 months ago
if you go frame-by-frame, you can see it cut back to greedo just before the explosion. besides, why would any bounty hunter kill han in the first place? as boba fett later said, "he's no good to me dead"
rainofcows 4 months ago
Han shot first, twice.
hehfilms 4 months ago
@hehfilms
He shot alone, so he couldn't shot first, if the other one didn't even shot!
so actually no one shot fist! lol
9snaker 4 months ago
@9snaker Now you're just being a dumbass.
hehfilms 4 months ago
Now that I see both, it looks to me like the updated version is using original footage that was cut from the original version. They may have added in laser beams, but the motion of Greedo's gun and the smoke seems unedited. If that's true, it would mean Lucas' original direction was for Greedo to shoot first. Then a later decision was made to cut that portion of the film out.
Now Han is compelled to shoot since Greedo says he's about to do it, but that could also have been added in afterward.
rvirzi 4 months ago
Han: fingers the wall. "i don't have it with me" chipmunk style
RaidenRocks99 5 months ago
THAT WASNT 1977! 8<
ListWritingMachine 5 months ago
LOVE the nerd rage in this page!! =D
Grandcrosssteve1 5 months ago
still doubting, HAN SHOT 1ST
BlinkyMcStabb 7 months ago
I didnt know this scene happened like that.....
I thought Han Solo Farted and the Gas Explosion was what Killed Greedo!
starguard 7 months ago
THE "ORIGINAL" IS THE THEATRICAL RELEASE, THE "UPDATED" ONE IS THE...SAME...THING...AS...THE...SPECIAL...EDITION!!!!
wyatt8740 8 months ago
This is going to sound weird, but I actually want to find the clip from 1997. I'm well aware of how the scene went down in 2004, but I don't recall the Special Edition's take.
stitch99 8 months ago
@stitch99 THE 1997 VERSION IS THE SAME AS THE 2004. 1994 WAS THE EDITION WHERE HAN SHOT 1st. I HAVE BOTH SETS ON VHS.
wyatt8740 8 months ago
@wyatt8740
a) There's no need for ALL CAPS. Just calm down.
b) In 1997, Greedo shot first and *then* Han shoots. In 2004, they shoot at approximately the same time (albeit Greedo fires a few frames first). It is commonly believed that George Lucas changed it in '04 in an attempt to compromise with outraged fans.
c) There was no 1994 edition. Was this a typo?
stitch99 8 months ago
@stitch99 Yes, it was a typo. I meant 1995. They released a VHS set then (not special edition).
wyatt8740 8 months ago
Talk about shit aim, he was fucking sedentary. Han wasnt moving, unless Greedo thought han was going to leap to the right. lol
DefendedHomestand 8 months ago
@DefendedHomestand
LMAO ROFL
TheArsenicWolf 8 months ago
Bull **** Uptade version my ***get a life HAN SHOT FIRST good argument over peace
Bhawxboyz 9 months ago
Original 1977 all you see is a explosion lol
MattakaMouse 9 months ago 39
@MattakaMouse yeah and his head on fire O_O they took that out too lol
djklink20009 9 months ago
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@djklink20009 I think its funny, rodian's must be the only star wars aliens that explode like gas tank if shot!
MattakaMouse 9 months ago
@MattakaMouse AN explosion, not "a".
Smosh would call me a grammar nazi.
wyatt8740 8 months ago
@MattakaMouse EXACTLY why is it so much cooler? just because it's ORIGINAL ooooh wow big deal haha besides, the whole "who shot first" thing makes no sense seeing as in the original han is the only one who shoots, so it would only apply to the remastered version.
archadia212 5 months ago
@archadia212 han shooting greedo in cold blood showed that han was a badass. this makes it meaningful when he later starts to care about other characters. making greedo shoot & miss, then han shoot him, not only neuters han as a character, but it's pretty stupid for a bounty hunter to try to kill his target for no reason- then he wouldn't get the bounty. i agree though, "han shot first" is silly- there is no "first" if the other guy doesn't shoot at all.
rainofcows 4 months ago
first one is the only one that counts
gaarathesandslayer 9 months ago
Let that be a lesson to you don't pull a gun on someone in a pub when you're pissed. Greedo should have sobered up first!
Inyerfunkinface 9 months ago
greedy must've been a retired stormtrooper
HORRORTV1 9 months ago 2
what about the scene in Revenge of the Sith where Yoda killed the clone troopers who were about to kill him? he didn't wait for them to shoot, he just whipped out his lightsaber and beheaded them, so wouldn't that make him a murderer as well?
daeadan36511 10 months ago
it seems to me that everyone is missing, or ignoring, one critical fact: if Han hadn't shot Greedo, he'd be dead.
daeadan36511 10 months ago
Text flooding at 1:23
seipgam 11 months ago
Thanks for the clip. I had just read about the blueray set announcement. And the Han shot first thing. The article mentioned THREE versions. The original 1977 Han shot first, which I remembered. A 1997 update with Greedo missing the mark, which I did not screen. And a third 2004 updated update in which Han digitaly enhanced dodges Greedo's first shot. This I think is the version that caught my eye most recently on a TV airing. I was like, "Huh? I don't remember it going that way before!"
RWRamo 11 months ago
This is from the special edition.
Crymson1 11 months ago
Of course Han shot first, who wouldn't shoot first if you have a gun pointed at you. Everyone likes Billy the Kid and I remember a story where he secretly takes the bullets out a guys gun, hands it back, provokes the man to shoot, doesn't kill Billy and Billy fires after and kills the guy. Billy was an outlaw and so was Han, it's ok for bad guys to do bad things.
DogofW0r 11 months ago
Eu assisti star wars 4 vezes em 1977,época de estreia,e lembro que Han foi o único a atirar! ele já estava de saco cheio e finalizou a conversa! Acho que a nova edição,quer mostrar que ele era um bandido contrabandista "bonzinho"! Era melhor realmente,a primeira versão ,que mostrava a transformação de um mercenário sem escrúpulo em herói da noite pro dia! era bem mais convincente!
Napoleon1701 1 year ago
skip to 1o seconds then press 3 continuisly
curtthecrocodile 1 year ago
thubs up if u keep preesing on 0:36 and u see han moved his hand alittle
MrBashir999 1 year ago
In the original it looks like Han chucked a grenade at him
Stormorbiter 1 year ago
thats the special edition not the original release
vega29ex 1 year ago
This proves why Lucas did not entirely create the original trilogy at all. As time's gone on he's gained total control over what happens in the films and you can see the end results in the prequels and the shittily updated special edition.
GoodDoseOfRock 1 year ago
who gives a rats ass about who shot first? so fucking stupid arguing overpointless shit like this......
daalienx14 1 year ago
@daalienx14
Han is not a dumbass nor he is pussy - He is badass and is quick.
Re-editing this scene makes Han a fucking dumbass like rest of cliche Hollywood movie good-guys-what-magicaly-avoid-death" .
( btw, Yeh, maybe you would wait to get shot in the face. For you thats nothing)
Instead, lets make cliche Hollywood move - lets make a good guy wait to die, and then MAGICALY dodge the bullet. Lets make the bad guy - miss from such range. .. Laughable.
ruined scene..fuck this. Lucas pls stop
Chaostos 1 year ago
@Chaostos well yeah,epecially because Han is SUPPOSED to be "a bad guy" he is a fucking smuggler and it makes no sense to re edit the scene,also because it makes no sense that a bounty hunter has less accuracy then a stormtrooper!!!
TheWoodstock2009 1 year ago
haha, lol Harrison sounds soo CUTE in chimpkunk!!! XD
startrekgirl258 1 year ago
han shot first! fuck george lucas and his cgi edits, and replacing anakin with gayden christiansen!
lenn5596 1 year ago
lol pause at 39 sec
gravediger1 1 year ago
rofl han does look like a murderer in the origanal its kinda barbaric looking
gravediger1 1 year ago
@gravediger1
yeh right, saving your life is so barbaric and bad !. Lets wait to get shot in the face, and If we are lucky - kill the fucker.
Well, Han is very lucky then + making MATRIX-like move to avoid laser blast. lol
...stupid shit.
Lucas lost his mind, fucking SW up so much. Next time he edit's this scene - Han will have tits and pink dress. - ohh he is so barbaric.
He is SMUGGLER WTF DID YOU EXPECT from him, to write poetry to guy killing him ?
Chaostos 1 year ago
@gravediger1 Han is a murderer. The thing is that before he got caught up with Luke and Obi Wan Han was a bad man. Remember what Obi Wan said about Mos Eisley spaceport and the type of beings there. Han didn't want to be collected as a bounty so he did what anyone on the run would do and get rid of the hunter that had a bead on him. He did show some civility by tossing the credit to the bartender for the mess and apologizing showing his chance for redemption in that particular scene.
WRK004 11 months ago
FAKE AND GAY
iZm1R 1 year ago
My gosh! What a cheap shot! Han was right in front of his skinny little face! GOSH!!!
PadawanTano 1 year ago
Ah, this makes sense now. Seeing as I wasn't born before 1977, I only really remember the updated version, and remember Greedo shooting first. Having said that... what poor aim for a supposed bounty hunter, lol.
Andres33AU 1 year ago
Nice job!
SithLord237 1 year ago
The original is best. Han shoots and Greedo doesn't have a chance. Han deals with the roughest people in the Galaxy, he has to be brutal just to survive to this point. He isn't supposed to be a nice guy. He is a rogue. lol and a great shot.
SpacedTime 1 year ago
Hans head unnaturally flinches away from the shot in remake with no change in facial expression
shotsavenolan 1 year ago
The original shot made hans character look more badass, that was the point, he is a scoundrel after all. The remakes ruined the original film by taking away the feel of broken down technology and everyone struggling to live under the wrath of the empire.
Simwillb 1 year ago
this is'nt the original version...HAN SHOT FIRST.
airdanny791 1 year ago
where Greedo shoots first Han seems unnaturally calm. If someone misses a shot by 2 inches i would be screaming: DID YOU FUCKING SEE THAT OMG I ALMOST GOT SHOT!!! I RUUUUUUULEEEE!!!
Tarenaccount 1 year ago
George Lucas had this particular scene edited from the original to make it look like greedo shot first when in actuality in the original han shot first. This change was done so Han Solo didn't look like such a bad guy.
DarthVadeer 1 year ago
@DarthVadeer
Which is a stupid decision since Han Solos character developement was about getting from the thug to the hero. Perhaps Lucas should've just an hero himself.
KusanRoth 1 year ago
@KusanRoth much agreed it was better in the original.
DarthVadeer 1 year ago
In the revised version it's clear solo is moved digitally to dodge the shot from Greedo. So the Greedo shot wasn't a deleted scene, it even never was filmed.
arkcrc 1 year ago
the lasers in this scene look like crayons!
starwars586 1 year ago
you don't need slow mo to see that!
starwars586 1 year ago
i think han shooting first instead of returning fire does say a lot about the caracter. so when you think about it: is han a man hwo does kill in order to not be cought, or is he just some guy in self-defense?
since this scene pretty much introduces the character that also defins him to the viewer and by changeing it to greedo shooting first people that never saw star wars will get another first impression of the han character.
xapha 1 year ago
george is a fucken idiot
reefergladness 1 year ago
first nigga to blast last nigga to Run Han Solo Could run Compton lol Hes tha real O.G.
R3d34 1 year ago
Greedo died first. All that matters.
thereaIblackcerberus 1 year ago
But then how do we know if the guns in star wars rnt just really hard to shoot and thats y greedo missed cuz if u think about it the storm troopers suck at shooting too and pretty much everyone els does
mexicanmanjohn 1 year ago
If ur saying the origonal one is the only one that counts then how do we know if they didnt just shot at the same time but han was the only one to hit cuz its just a big thing of smoke
mexicanmanjohn 1 year ago
Greedo fired his gun? Over my dead body.
Paul07791 1 year ago 3
I knew itt!!!
darkstarnebulashitfa 1 year ago
I don't understand Lucas' argument at all.
What is "dark" about shooting someone who is pointing a gun at you?
GlumPhoenix 1 year ago
in the ending scene of mercenaries you can see in the news box it says GREEDO SHOT FIRST!
weirdude124 1 year ago
ok guys greedo only shot in the 1997+ version, in the origional han was the only one who shoots
bashbro69 1 year ago
The whole "Han didn't shoot first" argument is ridiculous. I guess in George Lucas' mind, if someone holds a gun to his head, he's going to wait for him to shoot first before he retaliates. But, oh wait... it's kind of hard to shoot someone in retaliation if they shoot you first and kill you. This just makes Greedo like an incompetent idiot who can't even hit his target when he's sitting three feet in front of him.
BHoz77 1 year ago
records vary as to what really transpired that sunny day on tatooine...that the only thing we can get :P
LlednarJediMaster69 2 years ago
I really hate George Lucas for this change, he said it was because he thought the message was too dark if Solo killed Greedo without a first shot from Greedo, what it does is ruin the character development, but we shouldnt be surprised since Lucas went so Soft on the prequels, he's a terrible filmmaker, and should have been prevented from making these changes, this is what happend when a filmmaker has too much control of his film. disgusting.
sevendeadlyfilms 2 years ago
Agree.
Like how the hell could Greedo have missed from that range?? It just looks stupid.
And to put it into the movie is really stupid.
AdamWeith 2 years ago
well i disagree that he's a terrible filmmaker, cause he gave us the original star wars. buuuut I will say this, like any "artist" given the chance to go back and so call fix things (cgi aside, 'cause that was a dumb choice) he royally fucked that part up. and yes, disgusting for sure.
JawshHunt 2 years ago
a true artist should be amoralist.
figocooldude 1 year ago
Yeah, the whole "Han shooting first makes him a bad guy" concept is just retarded anyway.. if someone has a gun pointed at your face saying that they are gonna kill you then you are not a the bad guy for shooting them first.
DarthMink 2 years ago
Yeah he should have made the originals and never been let near anything even resembling Star Wars ever again
Murdock129 1 year ago
The original scene also referenced The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. In a similar scene, some guy was pointing a gun at somebody in the bathtub and yapping. But he didn't realize the guy in the bathtub (Tuco) had a gun hidden under the bubbles.
"When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk."
Knightmessenger 2 years ago
I heard that George Lucas made the change partly so that Han didn't seem like a badguy, shooting first. To like, set a better example or something stupid. I don't know if it's true, I just heard it.
lammyjammy 2 years ago
Shit was so bad it's hilarious!
Ravenex2 2 years ago
Both shot first?! Oh no! Time paradox! AAGH!!!
euhinck09 2 years ago
Han shot first in 1977, Greedo was so slow he didn't pull the trigger till 2004.
Chiefothewalley 2 years ago 246
Hahahaha
PagRikyProd 2 years ago 10
rofl
JEFF131424 2 years ago
@Chiefothewalley lol
284Weasel 1 year ago
@Chiefothewalley XDDDDDD!! That made my day :)
kariiwonkahh 1 year ago
@Chiefothewalley exactly, no question asked,
Arthounot 1 year ago
@Chiefothewalley Stop saying "Han shot first," for chrissakes. In the original he was the ONLY one to shoot.
TrevWks 1 year ago
@Chiefothewalley more like mid 90s
GoodgriefMaltese 9 months ago
@Chiefothewalley Pwn.
Assaultpredator 7 months ago
@Chiefothewalley You mean didnt pull the trigger until 1997 but updated again in 2004
crissrudd4554 6 months ago
@Chiefothewalley actually it was 1997 lol
Username5698 4 months ago 11
@Username5698 No, this was the 2004 version. 1997 didn't have a head lean.
desitaylor 1 month ago
@desitaylor I have the special edition on VHS and it definitely does
Username5698 1 month ago
@Username5698 Dude, look it up. The Greedo shot is 1997, the head lean combo is 2004.
desitaylor 1 month ago
@Username5698 you still have vhs?
devilfish98 1 month ago
@devilfish98 yes, I only use it for star wars because I just prefer all the original scenes
all the CGI crap in the new re releases piss me off
Username5698 1 month ago
Time for my first racist Youtube comment. I hate Rodians. All of them. Anybody else?
capecodpirate7 2 years ago
Is it racist to say all Rodians look alike?
Knightmessenger 2 years ago 3
Of course Han shot first. It was the only shot fired. George Lucas is a fat dumb shit (not as dumb as 20th Century Fox) who made an absolutely unnecessary change to a classic film. And from what I hear, another Star Wars film is in the works. Star Wars ended in 1983.
FightGrizzlyBears 2 years ago
I don't think this puts any negative light on Lucas, he may have wanted Greedo to shoot first to show Hans skills, as well as the urgency posed by the bounty hunters.
episodes 1-3 though, now, that goes without saying
UBiQproductions 2 years ago
ANOTHER! jesus is it gonna be 7 or 0
JEFF131424 2 years ago
Greedo was planning to shoot him no matter what.
A pre-emptive strike is still a valid military tactic.
kawless 2 years ago
i tell everyone that greedo never shot. only the true fans know this.
onexero1 2 years ago
Greedo deserved to die if he couldn't hit Han at that range.
runawaymotor 2 years ago 2
im sorry to say that i thought greedo did...i never knew about the original because i have the updated versions...holy shit...han dont fuck around...
BrockL191 2 years ago
FUCKERS! HAN SHOT FIRST! ALWAYS HAVE, ALWAYS WILL! they only changed it because people kept bitching about it, "han can't kill without being threatened, he's a hero!" bull fuckin shit. people bitching is how we got the shitty prequals
javenetti 2 years ago 6
@javenetti It's spelled "prequels".
Symph909 8 months ago
thanks for making this video man,i knew it,i knew it,greedo shots first¡¡
MAJINSTARSCREAM4 2 years ago
at 0:23 you can hear him say "i dont have it with me" clearly
wesilation98 2 years ago
Han shot first
llmuto25 2 years ago
What the hell is so great about the original version? I suppose Mulholland is a better Hutt than the CGI ones as well? This is as dumb as Vader fans being pissed about Palpatine stealing his spotlight. Greedo shot first.
Minwu325 2 years ago
I asume you're refering to Declan Mulholand who was cast as Jabba for the first movie but the footage wasn't used. Your point in non existant. He wasn't in the original movies. What makes the original movies so great is that they were just that, original, with ground breaking special effects. The new versions have the magic taken from them by giving them standard special effects by todays standards. As for who shot first, Han shot in 1977, Gredo didn't shoot 'til 1997. Han wins by 20 years.
JUNI0RD0CT0R 2 years ago
Lucas hates Han. Therefore, Han shot second.
Minwu325 2 years ago
Explain that therefore to me. Once again you make point based and meaning nothing. What makes you think Lucas hates Han? and even if he does how does that therefore mean Han shot second?
JUNI0RD0CT0R 2 years ago
It's apparent that Lucas, or at least the guys at LFL, hate Han because they changed it to Han shooting second.
Minwu325 2 years ago
well they changed it to make han appear more heroic, that he wouldnt shoot without due reason. but han shot first end of discussion
JUNI0RD0CT0R 2 years ago
I don't know why people even question the original. When I watch the movies, I don't really get that great of a feeling of Han being a "hero". He's more like an opportunist. lol. So Han shooting first seems reasonable to me
SuperboyCasanova 2 years ago 3
Greedo is a bounty hunter and he missed a target that big from a range of one yard? Dumb shit.
Whyavier 2 years ago 48
@Whyavier
Well, sometimes even a professional can make mistakes =)
dongeros8 1 year ago
@Whyavier
AND THEREIN LIES THE CONSPIRACY...
double247nick 10 months ago
@Whyavier Yah, Rodians, what idiots.
Legoghost14 10 months ago
@Whyavier well he didn't really aim, he did a hip fire kind of thing.
bleachfreak2025477 9 months ago
@Whyavier Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
DejectedPanda 8 months ago
wiat u guys did not no that greedo shot first
ma4io374 2 years ago
he didn't, in the original version (re:1977 to the mid nineties) greedo didn't fire at all, han just slickly pulled out his pistol and blasted him, with the release of the special editions (with upgraded special effects, and 90's cgi, and added scenes) Lucas decided that since Han was so poular with little kids, he should kill only in self defense, and changed the scene, the result was cut poorly and somewhat choppy.
LordAmbitious 2 years ago 2
Han shoots first, well he's the ONLY one to shoot in the original, this is the theatrical re-released version. His neck moving is completely CGI.
SteGuitar7 2 years ago
look at hans neck when greedo shoots... is that cgi? well it definately is not the real harrison ford....
FritzHohlstein 2 years ago 3
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Greedo shot first- Its canon now that george Lucas made it that way
LolCaramelz 2 years ago
Canon, my ass! Cinema is an art form. Would the world like it if Da Vinci used a time machine to paint a pirate hat on the Mona Lisa's head (if it were possible)? Movies are also a commodity. "Products and brands belong to the consumers that use them (business maxim). Coca-Cola's 1985 launch of "New Coke" is regarded as one of the greatest marketing blunders of the 20th century. Just say no to "New Star Wars".
"I have altered the films, pray I do not alter them further." - Darth Lucas
alkh3myst 2 years ago
the quote made me laugh
davidgd1989 2 years ago
Glad you liked it. Maybe we should all make it a slogan, I've had good feedback on the line elsewhere.
alkh3myst 2 years ago
Just cause he changed it to be more kid friendly doesn't make it solid, the original movie is what matters, thats what made it famous and thats what people loved enough for this to even matter lol
SurWolf 2 years ago 3
lol troll
twocows360 2 years ago
Han shot first, keep it the same as the original man >_>
Omnicloudx13 2 years ago 4
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juresaiyan 2 years ago
So then I fucked a male hooker on camera and then went back and edited a vagina into it..... so im not gay?
Shaplen 2 years ago
are you sure that was the first release film
5deaths 2 years ago
Not exactly, but edited to look exactly like it.
PagRikyProd 2 years ago
Well, not to add into the debate, but I find it really hard to believe that Greedo had the gun pointed at him that whole time and missed the first shot without Han moving at all. Han shot first.
wtf101 2 years ago
han shot first you idiot
kingpin1331 2 years ago 5
...and this is somehow important?
How?
JarOfRats 2 years ago
who damn care who shot first?
is there necessary to debate....
gosh...
Han alife
Greedo died
i only care about the result
leochanka 2 years ago
i dont know who you think you are but this is a very important aspect of the star wars universe
bman1483 2 years ago
greedo shot frist on the remastered, he just got wasted the night before and couldnt shoot for shit the next day.
HamidBa 2 years ago
Anyway... Greedo would have shoot after he explained he waited for this.
If Greedo shot first and miss Han at that short distance and Han kills souch a bad shootist by shoot after him....that would be murder.
In the new Version he should pick up Greedos Blaster, after the Guy miss him, and let him eat the Gun.
The Original was political uncorrect. Han Solo is not an Angel. And remember That whole Thing ist Star WARS...People get killen in Wars... It is not Softball Cricett in Space.
lesadamus 2 years ago
greedo didnt deserve to die
if uve read the comics of course then u wud understand
grewal02 3 years ago
Comics were written after the movie, so screw them.
My only loyalty to the Star Wars franchise is the original 3 movies from 30 years ago and Kevins Smiths remake with Maggie Gylenhal, Tobey McGuire, and Ben Aflec.
Sam666gelber 3 years ago
maybe to you.
but to me the star wars universe is compiled of endless stories and characters.
its like looking out into space and wondering how many other civilizations are out there, this is how star wars makes me feel.
books, comics, movies, anything authorized by george lucas of course :P
u must be older than 30 to like Kevin Smith aha
grewal02 2 years ago
19 actually. Kevin Smith will always be awesome.
I admit I made my comment without reading any of the star wars comics, and that was wrong of me, but I hated the new films for their characters. Everyone need to have character flaws or else it's not realistic. Leah kicks Padmé's ass, character-wise.
The editing we see in this video changes the character of Han completely, and for the worse. It makes him a more decent guy, only shooting in self defense, which is not the type of guy he is.
Sam666gelber 2 years ago