The Real Buzz on if We Landed on the Moon in '69

[vlad9vt]

very easy to refute NASA program . firstly any physicist saw their video with rovers on the surface of the moon-say it is from within the Earth's gravity - as the sand that comes out from under the wheels of the rover-acting strictly as in the Earth's gravity and atmosphere.

Further on the moon as well as in open space rather high radiation - open space and solar radiation - the astronauts for 10 days outside the limits of earth's magnetic field would receive lethal doses of irradiation.

[jtkirkfan2002]

Don't ever tell a man who was strapped to the top of the most powerful rocket ever built that he is a "coward".

[jacksawild]

Right cross, Buzz.

Age does not weary him.

[shotokanbb]

Yes, in fact there was a landing in the moon, but who started the hoax conspiracy?? yes the US Government, but why? They don't want you to know what they have found there...in the moon. And you ask why we didn`t go back???

[jtkirkfan2002]

@shotokanbb We went back five times, six if you count Apollo 13. We never went back due to funding.

[DalekHunter1994]

ALDRIN...PAWNCH!!!

[amievery1]

It's definitely fake. The video does not explain itself well. All we see is fancy photography with some sort of illusion music with it. Nobody went into space. End of story. Do not believe everything you see as the world has two sides like a mirror flipping itself over so I am right saying it is an actors studio.

[danschaoticmind]

@amievery1 Can you prove that? I see no empirical evidence which supports your assertion.

Remember: Extraordinary claims require extra-ordinary evidence...

[amievery1]

My response to the video makes sense in certain aspects of the video in itself. Only few eyes can spot truth. When you imagine of being in space and make your own experiments you will fail to be out there because it is not possible. There will be people out there who will outsmart your moves so therefore you are screwed up no offence.

[TrejoDuneSea]

I wonder if Buzz ever punched the Moon.

[ggabs1988]

i think this guy got what he deserved even though i believe that the moon landing was faked like 911 and elvis' death :P

[danschaoticmind]

I will not comment on the 911 issue or elvis' death but I ask you to consider the following:

If we never landed on the moon, why did the ruskies never cry foul? they were, afterall, able to track objects in deep space as evidenced by their ability to track space craft they sent around the moon and received telemetry from.

[ggabs1988]

dude... who cares and who knows.... this is just a real good conspiracy that has drawn my attention and i believe it. really dont care though

[danschaoticmind]

Occams razor is the point of it. All things being equal, the simplest explanation tends to be the most likely. It's a veiled way of asking people to think reasonably for a moment. The conspiracy theory itself is so weak that under scientific and independent scrutiny it falls apart like a house of sticks

[RevengeofShinobi1]

Do you believe, in theory, that human beings could ever be capable of dishonesty?

[danschaoticmind]

@RevengeofShinobi1 I doubt it matters if they are capable or not. It has been proven that humans are capable of dishonesty. However, consider this:

1. it would cost more money to cover it up than it would have to just go.

2. The Russians tracked our spacecraft via telemetry downlinks (Which were broadcast so an entire hemisphere could lock into them)

3. The Russians further went ahead and sat off the coast of florida and monitored those launches as well.

4. funny how they never said anything...

[danschaoticmind]

@RevengeofShinobi1 1: the costs of covering it up would involve paying off anyone who knew, and/or killing them, this costs man hours and dollars. The evidence of this is apparent in the gulf of tonkin incident so it is a valid argument.

2. Actually, Public record released by the Former soviet union to include telemetry azimuth and elevation is enough.

3&4: consider the situation at the time. A conflict between two nations for world superiority. Occhams razor alone should be enough.

[danschaoticmind]

@RevengeofShinobi1 Furthermore, you are pulling at straws here. You assert we never landed on the moon. Yet I have presented the fact that there is evidence which suggests our own enemies at the time (You are likely too young to remember the so called cold war) confirmed we had in fact landed on the moon. If we didn't that would be the greatest advantage they could hold.

Take for example, the bay of pigs incident.

However, No matter what evidence is presented, you will deny or ignore it.

[danschaoticmind]

@RevengeofShinobi1 So, unless if you actually have evidence which contradicts evidence posited, you are pulling at straws.

"Extraordinary claims require extra-ordinary evidence"

My claim: we went to the moon

definative proof: telemetry records from not only our own countries, but countries such as the soviet union and australia (spare me "they are our allies" arguments)

[tunialg]

Buzz Aldrin est un héros mondial. Je t'adore buzz et que Dieu te donne longue et une bonne santé.

[stratocaster539]

One small punch for Buzz - one giant lesson for sibrel.

[bulletinman]

Stanley Kubrick directed it..

[mddawson1]

Are you referring to the French documentary 'Dark Side of the Moon' - the spoof documentary first aired on April 1???

[24kGoldenRocket]

Why did the USSR NOT expose the "hoax" if, indeed, it were a hoax? The biggest problem is that the sheeple are uneducated. They haven't a clue about Doppler shifting of Electromagnetic Radiation. Any Soviet Physicist, armed with a Radio Astronomy Dish, could have detected a stationary source (if Apollo were indeed stationary) from original transmission point. Yet they received that signal from LOI flight.

[emfjohn]

ussr have said from the 1960s not possible to land a man on the moon (they were the first to reach it though) they do doubt the landings but you like me do not receive russian t v or newspapers to read such things

[mddawson1]

The USSR may not have been able to land a man on the moon, they couldn't even make a decent motor car. This does not mean the USA couldn't. Also if it had been faked the USSR would have proven it at the time. They were also monitoring the signals & it would be pretty obvious if the signals were coming from the moon or not.

[emfjohn]

you watch much russian telly?? or you read many russian papers?? please tell me were to get them!! they not for sale here?? im not saying whos the best out of the 2 countrys but one thing for sure no russian t v statement at the time would not have been broadcast to the american public would it?

[mddawson1]

It was the middle of the cold war & propaganda was the weapon. The space race was a political fight between the USA & USSR. In that light if there was any doubt that it was faked then the USSR would have told the world. I know a Polish woman who lived there in 69. She said the Soviet controlled media never doubted the moon landing. Also people in Western Europe as well as parts of the USA could receive TV from the USSR. I could hear Radio Moscow in English on shortwave - no hoax was mentioned.

[emfjohn]

the russians only had the capabilty of deep tracking space craft untill 1972 the same year the US space missions abrubtly ended, yes they all watched and listened but were and still are very doubtfull

[mddawson1]

The USSR had the ability to receive transmissions from the moon as early as 1958 (check Moon Landing in wiki). Anyone using a tracking station would have been able to step outside & see if the dish was pointing at the moon. If it was faked the USSR would have known & told the world as putting men on the moon was the grand prize of the space race & a major coup in the cold war.

[emfjohn]

i do not dispute that ussr could receive their own signals from the moon, but their ability to track deep into space was not acheived untill 1972 (check moon conspiracy wiki) this was the same time the usa abrubtly ended lunar missions (they say for financial reasons) 40 years on with huge/massive leaps in technology no other country has landed man on the moon, USA has a proven track record for lies (vietnam WMD afghanistahn etc i think this was just another scam to show world domination

[mddawson1]

So exactly how did the USSR track & receive telemetry from the 50 moon probes, orbiters & rovers it sent there prior to 1972? Every government tells lies but that doesn't mean all they say or do is a lie. When you say govt do you mean politicians or the 1000s of average people who work for the govt? BTW for the moon landings to be a hoax also requires the Australian Govt & Aussie techs to have been part of it. Over 400,000 people were involved in Apollo 11, surely a few 100 would have confessed?

[mddawson1]

Quote: "check moon conspiracy wiki" - this is your big mistake, a website created by people who are clinically stupid. They have no knowledge of the topics they discuss & argument from personal incredulity - they cannot understand how it be done so it wasn't. BTW keep an eye on NASAs website as they are releasing photos of the Apollo sites from their new LRO satellite. No doubt you will claim NASA faked these photos as well.

[emfjohn]

i suggest you re read your posts then??? you have qouted wiki??? i counter qouted you with it so that then ,makes your information useless??

[mddawson1]

Sorry I thought you meant a specific wiki created by moon landing deniers. Still you should read the whole article. The next sentence after fucktard Sibrel makes the claim that the USSR didn't have deep space tracking facilities until 1972 states clearly they had them in 1962. Conspiracy theorists lie all the time to keep their cherished delusions alive.

[RevengeofShinobi1]

@mddawson1 They probably did.

[DonMeaker]

The big difference between the US and USSR was that USSR announced only successful activities after the flight was complete. Oh, and Lada died in space with no intent ever to return. The US announced flights before they happened, with news media allowed access to the pilots before hand, all open and above board. This was shocking to the Soviets.

[bigsexyfilms]

WOW WHAT is wrong with people today why does everything have to be a fucking conspiracy theory why is that everyone has to claim that some one is a fake or a liar when they claim to have done something great my father survived 2 fights agains cancer u gonna call him a liar to cuz i'm pretty sure he still alive as a matter a fact i just saw him walk by my door way

[emfjohn]

no stars in the background 4 shadows cast on the men equipment and flag and now all origional footage "deleted" (but after been digitally remastered) was that to make it look more beleivable??

[touyuber19]

you don't see stars when the sun is out.

the moon is reflective, therefore is in a way a light source that will create shaddows in different directions.

since when is ALL the original footage deleted?

[emfjohn]

nasa just admitted to deleting ALL origiinal footage (but say its ok cos they repaired and copied it) digitally remastered it i beleive... if the sun was out they would not need a artifical light source that they used, and the black and white footage would be grey and white but you may beleive the goverment if you wish cos there is also weapons of mass distruction in iraq and bin laden about to be caught in afghanistahn and if we lucky the next exciting adventure will be in iran

[touyuber19]

the moon landing is a very different claim than the weapons and bin laden. the moon landing actually happened, and the others are just suspicions that the government has...so you aren't making sense. and if they digitally remastered it the scenes are pretty much identical just less grainy, so there shouldn't be a problem.

[emfjohn]

if you listen to what your goverment told us iraq HAD weapons (not suspected) iraq was on the verge of doing terrible things to world peace,very similar storys were fabricted about afgahnistahn this is a valid point and too me makes sense as it proves the USA goverment tells lies i personnaly beleive the landings are a hoax and with what footage exists the evidence is over whelming

[lolxenulol]

You are a moron. PLEASE show me this 'overwhelming' evidence which proves that the moon landings were faked. Fucking moron...

[chuggachuggawoowoo]

Idiots who say we didn't land on the moon have no lives. All the evidence in the world wouldn't change their minds because they want to believe in stupid crap. Aldrin should have stabbed him.

[tiburon69]

nevada has nice places to film moon like videos

[emfjohn]

yes and if you enter it without permission yopu get shot