There are some errors in punctuation of your rendition, most importantly: it was not Nietzsche but Jesus that was crucified. Also Nietzsche’s rivalry with Christ was unconscious.
Still, I am mesmerised by the musicality and poignancy of your voice...
I appreciate your correction of my misinterpretation of your writing. It's sometimes difficult to fully comprehend the scope of what's being said in brief articles in Philosophy Now, but I was very intrigued by your piece, and I'm looking forward to reading your book when it's published. Thanks for watching.
I'm glad folks are still talking about Fred, but to be honest, he wasn't all that original in what he said. For some reason people paid attention to him and still do. So only Fred could have been who he was, even though he'd been born a thousand times before and since... so to speak. Nietzsche, what the fuck?
like to see that there are other channels still around from YT's past, so it was good to have your comment. I don't hold the same views you do about the good old lonely iconoclast, but differences of opinions on the merits of philosophers isn't anything new. We're not the first not to have different views on past thinkers and we won't be the last.
@2bsirius its good to hear your videos, I haven't been around much lately, I've a LOT to catch up on. You always provide great fuel for the philosophical fire! Cheers!!
I am reading Zarathustra now. I'm inclined to agree with Jaspers that Nietzsche saw himself in competition with Christ, showing that Nietzche was unable to think beyond the messianic model.
Camus identified the problem w/ Nietzche when he said that the problem w/ him is not that he was a Nazi but that much of teachings were too amenable to Nazi thought.
@alovelytime While his views on women are a conteversy he did have female friends and the well known whip steatment in Zarathrusta maybe a satire on the Lou Andreas-Salomé whip picture where she whips him and his friend while being on a wagon . Nor did he consider odinary people inferior in the way nazis did on the other hand he thought we all should rise up and find our own morals and our meaning to life instead of being slaves to Christian slave-morality
Nietzsche was very explicit on his view of bigoted Germans, the jews, and the proto-Nazi expeditions of Wagner. Of all the posittions Nietzsche has taken and which are hard to understand or hard to pin down... his pre-emptive position against nationalism, especially anti-semetic nationalism, stands out as exceptionally clear. No he did not court it, and that is not the horrible event of which he spoke, imo.
@pyrrho314 : I think this essay sounds like someone saying "well, all that stuff we were taught about Neitzsche and Nazi's was a lie, but wasn't it really actually true?"... it's infintile. Naziism violates nearly every single thing Nietzsche pointed out, they intrerpret the world entirely wrong, and Nietzschean analysis of their ideas shreds them in MINUTES. Not days, not subtle... in minutes. Both the analytics, and the specifics. Specifics like ...`
@pyrrho314 "In short, the Germans have no feet at all, they simply have legs. The Germans have not the faintest idea of how vulgar they are --- but this in itself is the acme of vulgarity, --- they are not even ashamed of being merely Germans. They will have their say in everything, they regard themselves as fit to decide all questions; I even fear that they have decided about me. My whole life is essentially a proof of this remark. In vain have I sought among them for a sign of tact and ...
... and delicacy towards myself. Among Jews I did indeed find it, but not among Germans. I am so constituted as to be gentle and kindly to every one, --- I have the right not to draw distinctions, --- but this does not prevent my eyes from being open."
--- F. N. in Ecce Homo
Show me the Nazi that could endorse that, having actually read it?
@pyrrho314 The Jews, however, are beyond all doubt the toughest, purest race now living in Europe; they know how to prevail under the worst conditions (better even than under favourable ones), thanks above all to a resolute faith which does not need to be ashamed before 'modem ideas'. - Beyond Good & Evil. Another slice of Nietzsche that would have Nazi's foaming at the mouth. Also let us not forget that Nietzsche went ballistic at his sister and her marriage to Foster in his letters to her.
One more thing for clarity. I read only a very brief excerpt of Eva Cybulska's article, and I think you've formed a mistaken view of it from that excerpt. The complete article is linked in the lowbar and in it she makes a lot of the same points you're making.
It's hard to compress complex ideas into manageable formats on YouTube, as you know.
Your comments make it clear why the Machiavellian sister, Elisabeth Förster née Nietzsche, was so horrible. For a quick background on what she did to him while he was alive but demented and how she perverted his memory after his death:
watch?v=QvBEwkvsiC0
Eva Cybulska is working on a philosophical biography of him, Nietzsche: A Hero’s Journey into Night. I'm hoping it will more engaging than the recent one by Julian Young which was a real disappointment imo.
@2bsirius Definitely agreed on Julian Young's biography which was terrible (he really should stick to Schopenhauer), certainly no where near the level of Safranki's, Curtis Cates or even the good ole stand-by of Kaufmann and Hollingdales works on him. Good video by the way!
I Have listened to a few Audible Books, I wish they would hire you to do them, then and only then would I buy them.
I wonder how Nietzsche would react to our current Socio-Polictical-economic Dilemma or Orwell. What would they have to say about the insanity going on now?
Bravo! I like the delivery. It's amazing how misinformed people are about Freddy, and probably always will be. It's clear in his books that he is actually quite a descent guy, just somewhat pissed off and highly critical of dogma and assertion, especially the nonsensical Christian morality that is so often divorced from what is good for us in this life, likely the only life we have. I didn't know that about his sister and Hitler, makes sense now. That mustache isn't helping him, either!
@StabbyRaccoon His sister was an anti-semite despite that he hated anti-semnitism and was disgusted at his sister anti-semnitism. She joined the nazi party and got control of Nietzsches works and writtings and even did some revisions. She is the sole reason why Nietzsche is connected at all with Nazism... It is pure sadness...
Ah well in honour of Freddy I will say. God is dead and god remains dead and we have killed him.
Yeah, people need to read more and assume less. :3
"...the anti-Semites...are...men of resentment, these physiologically impaired and worm-eaten men, a totally quivering earthly kingdom of subterranean revenge, inexhaustible, insatiable in its outbursts against the fortunate...there could be no greater and more fateful misunderstanding than if...the fortunate, the successful, the powerful in body and spirit should start to doubt their right to happiness." -- Genealogy of Morals
I feel touched by your reading of my article.
There are some errors in punctuation of your rendition, most importantly: it was not Nietzsche but Jesus that was crucified. Also Nietzsche’s rivalry with Christ was unconscious.
Still, I am mesmerised by the musicality and poignancy of your voice...
Eva Cybulska
Corsackify 2 months ago
@Corsackify
I appreciate your correction of my misinterpretation of your writing. It's sometimes difficult to fully comprehend the scope of what's being said in brief articles in Philosophy Now, but I was very intrigued by your piece, and I'm looking forward to reading your book when it's published. Thanks for watching.
2bsirius 1 month ago
I'm glad folks are still talking about Fred, but to be honest, he wasn't all that original in what he said. For some reason people paid attention to him and still do. So only Fred could have been who he was, even though he'd been born a thousand times before and since... so to speak. Nietzsche, what the fuck?
HoldinCoffee 4 months ago
like to see that there are other channels still around from YT's past, so it was good to have your comment. I don't hold the same views you do about the good old lonely iconoclast, but differences of opinions on the merits of philosophers isn't anything new. We're not the first not to have different views on past thinkers and we won't be the last.
2bsirius 4 months ago
@2bsirius its good to hear your videos, I haven't been around much lately, I've a LOT to catch up on. You always provide great fuel for the philosophical fire! Cheers!!
HoldinCoffee 4 months ago
I am reading Zarathustra now. I'm inclined to agree with Jaspers that Nietzsche saw himself in competition with Christ, showing that Nietzche was unable to think beyond the messianic model.
DanaGarrett 4 months ago
Camus identified the problem w/ Nietzche when he said that the problem w/ him is not that he was a Nazi but that much of teachings were too amenable to Nazi thought.
DanaGarrett 4 months ago
i was wondering 2bsirius, if Nietzsche had been american would he have been taken as seriously?
lapisredux 4 months ago
Your vids are NOT showing up in my inbox. I am so annoyed. I adore your channel.
slobomotion 4 months ago
@slobomotion you must unsubscribe and then re-subscribe to rectify the problem
lapisredux 4 months ago
@lapisredux Arrgh! Okay.
slobomotion 4 months ago
dude hated women? and considered ordinary people as inferior?
alovelytime 4 months ago
@alovelytime While his views on women are a conteversy he did have female friends and the well known whip steatment in Zarathrusta maybe a satire on the Lou Andreas-Salomé whip picture where she whips him and his friend while being on a wagon . Nor did he consider odinary people inferior in the way nazis did on the other hand he thought we all should rise up and find our own morals and our meaning to life instead of being slaves to Christian slave-morality
Eopyk 4 months ago
Nietzsche was very explicit on his view of bigoted Germans, the jews, and the proto-Nazi expeditions of Wagner. Of all the posittions Nietzsche has taken and which are hard to understand or hard to pin down... his pre-emptive position against nationalism, especially anti-semetic nationalism, stands out as exceptionally clear. No he did not court it, and that is not the horrible event of which he spoke, imo.
pyrrho314 4 months ago
@pyrrho314 : I think this essay sounds like someone saying "well, all that stuff we were taught about Neitzsche and Nazi's was a lie, but wasn't it really actually true?"... it's infintile. Naziism violates nearly every single thing Nietzsche pointed out, they intrerpret the world entirely wrong, and Nietzschean analysis of their ideas shreds them in MINUTES. Not days, not subtle... in minutes. Both the analytics, and the specifics. Specifics like ...`
pyrrho314 4 months ago
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pyrrho314 4 months ago
@pyrrho314 "In short, the Germans have no feet at all, they simply have legs. The Germans have not the faintest idea of how vulgar they are --- but this in itself is the acme of vulgarity, --- they are not even ashamed of being merely Germans. They will have their say in everything, they regard themselves as fit to decide all questions; I even fear that they have decided about me. My whole life is essentially a proof of this remark. In vain have I sought among them for a sign of tact and ...
pyrrho314 4 months ago
... and delicacy towards myself. Among Jews I did indeed find it, but not among Germans. I am so constituted as to be gentle and kindly to every one, --- I have the right not to draw distinctions, --- but this does not prevent my eyes from being open."
--- F. N. in Ecce Homo
Show me the Nazi that could endorse that, having actually read it?
pyrrho314 4 months ago
@pyrrho314 The Jews, however, are beyond all doubt the toughest, purest race now living in Europe; they know how to prevail under the worst conditions (better even than under favourable ones), thanks above all to a resolute faith which does not need to be ashamed before 'modem ideas'. - Beyond Good & Evil. Another slice of Nietzsche that would have Nazi's foaming at the mouth. Also let us not forget that Nietzsche went ballistic at his sister and her marriage to Foster in his letters to her.
ScreamsFromTheAbyss 4 months ago
@pyrrho314
One more thing for clarity. I read only a very brief excerpt of Eva Cybulska's article, and I think you've formed a mistaken view of it from that excerpt. The complete article is linked in the lowbar and in it she makes a lot of the same points you're making.
It's hard to compress complex ideas into manageable formats on YouTube, as you know.
2bsirius 4 months ago
@pyrrho314
Your comments make it clear why the Machiavellian sister, Elisabeth Förster née Nietzsche, was so horrible. For a quick background on what she did to him while he was alive but demented and how she perverted his memory after his death:
watch?v=QvBEwkvsiC0
Eva Cybulska is working on a philosophical biography of him, Nietzsche: A Hero’s Journey into Night. I'm hoping it will more engaging than the recent one by Julian Young which was a real disappointment imo.
2bsirius 4 months ago
@2bsirius Definitely agreed on Julian Young's biography which was terrible (he really should stick to Schopenhauer), certainly no where near the level of Safranki's, Curtis Cates or even the good ole stand-by of Kaufmann and Hollingdales works on him. Good video by the way!
ScreamsFromTheAbyss 4 months ago
I Have listened to a few Audible Books, I wish they would hire you to do them, then and only then would I buy them.
I wonder how Nietzsche would react to our current Socio-Polictical-economic Dilemma or Orwell. What would they have to say about the insanity going on now?
I told you so, maybe?
valhala56 4 months ago
@valhala56 They would shake their head in dismay form about 10 seconds... then burst into hysterical laughter.
deepashtray 4 months ago
Good video 2b even faved.
All love and respect from me Jasmine
Eopyk 4 months ago
Great presentation 2b.
CountHektor 4 months ago
Bravo! I like the delivery. It's amazing how misinformed people are about Freddy, and probably always will be. It's clear in his books that he is actually quite a descent guy, just somewhat pissed off and highly critical of dogma and assertion, especially the nonsensical Christian morality that is so often divorced from what is good for us in this life, likely the only life we have. I didn't know that about his sister and Hitler, makes sense now. That mustache isn't helping him, either!
StabbyRaccoon 4 months ago
@StabbyRaccoon His sister was an anti-semite despite that he hated anti-semnitism and was disgusted at his sister anti-semnitism. She joined the nazi party and got control of Nietzsches works and writtings and even did some revisions. She is the sole reason why Nietzsche is connected at all with Nazism... It is pure sadness...
Ah well in honour of Freddy I will say. God is dead and god remains dead and we have killed him.
Eopyk 4 months ago
@Eopyk
Yeah, people need to read more and assume less. :3
"...the anti-Semites...are...men of resentment, these physiologically impaired and worm-eaten men, a totally quivering earthly kingdom of subterranean revenge, inexhaustible, insatiable in its outbursts against the fortunate...there could be no greater and more fateful misunderstanding than if...the fortunate, the successful, the powerful in body and spirit should start to doubt their right to happiness." -- Genealogy of Morals
ladyattis 4 months ago
@ladyattis Great passage you quoted :) And I agree people need to read more and assume less :)
All love from me Jasmine
Eopyk 4 months ago
Wow, you make Nietzsche sexy.
shlockofgod 4 months ago
and great video
13baldjj 4 months ago
what song/piece is the music from?
13baldjj 4 months ago
@13baldjj
It's a loop called Isolated from Kevin MacLeod's royalty free site.
2bsirius 4 months ago
@2bsirius thanks
13baldjj 4 months ago