I went vegetarian 30 years ago at the age of 8. I didn't know any and my family thought it was a phase then 3 years ago, I became vegan. They knew it wasn't a phase this time but wondered why I couldn't eat milk, dairy and eggs and wear wool. I had to explain it to them.
so what do we do then? Endanger plants by eating them more than eat animals? We have plenty of endangerment to worry about with plants since big business doesn't seem to care as much about how much they destroy the environment until it either becomes correct for their image to appear pro green freak or it starts to become a real problem when they can't get the materials. What we need to do is conserve both animals and vegetation, for the sake of both food and the well being of other things.
Did you ever stop to realize that American agricultural practice and science has saved tens of millions of lives based on its efficiency? But in your tiny mind, its all evil because you think a brainless beast can appreciate quality of life like a human can. Why should you care, you've never gone hungry, you've never watched a child starve to death. Only a truly callous cunt would put the welfare of an irrational animal before her own species.
Well not really, dogs are real omnivores, humans are vegetarians, just look at our body anatomy. Humnas do eat meat, but look at the health problems that we're under because of the diet. I've been vegan for over 13 years and never got sick and I'm more active and have more energy than ever.
Actually evolutions leads to sustainable foods, which no animal product is sustainable or good for the planet, animals or people. Go forth :)
I know you well meaning but your 'facts' are too vague. Its clear your just quoteing what you've heard from someone else rather than actually reseaching any of your topics. Especially your dairy farming comments! For your information A.I. is used because its safer for the cow than the traditional way when massive bulls mount the cows. I could go on but won't. Please realise the responciblities and dangers of posting misleading information. By right you should remove this video.
@twinklemollflossyred They artificially inseminate because it is cheaper than buying better bulls. You can get a better bull that there is only one of. And can insure that the cows or heifers you are breeding that they are getting pregnant. In other words you can't trust the bulls to do them all. And you can get all the calves to be born at the time you want. Don't eat meat. Also they can experiment and change their herd easier for better production. It is still rape to me.
They're artificially inseminated because its a business, why would a farmer buy a bull if he's only going to be used during the mating season once/year?Plus the sperm that is used comes from those selectively bred 'better bulls'. Farmers (generally) love their herd and treat them really well,for at the end of the day the happier the herd the better their produce is. I dont see what the problem is.
@twinklemollflossyred That's what I typed twinkletoes. The bull is used to stimulate the cows coming into breeding time. And the bull does breed some. There is no mating season in dairy. They have to keep having calves to produce milk. Twinkle don't use the person your replying to comments to win your argument. Why do people keep replying to me with what I commented with. It is like telling me what I said. WTF.
wow what a generalized statement fish is bad for you because it has mercury.
Predatory fish are known to have higher levels of mercury, e.g tuna. Most fish are haelthy for humans. The same arugment can be made to fruits and vegtables. The pesticides on the majority of our produce is known to cause cancer, and birth defects. And the modern day soil is depleted of essential nutrients vital for plants. result is most plants lack what they used to have. and cow manure is the best fertilizer.hmm
@Siphon880yt Actually meat is bland and you like the spices and sauces that you put on it. Most people eat meat because of traditional or religous reasoning. There are more flavors to fruits and vegetables than meat. And you can spice it to even better taste. A lot of meat eating has to do with claiming to be a man. If you kill innocence as a man then you aren't much of one. Protect innocence don't eat it. Do you burn up all the protein that meat is eaten for.
i went vegetarian november 9th 2007 after watching only half of the earthlings doco, it put me right off meat, then i ended up watching the rest of earthlings this year and went vegan the first of march, i havent eaten tofutti cheese yet, i was wondering what it takes like, i drink soy milk, is there anything vegan that it sort of tastes like? im 21 from australia and just wanted to know, thanks heaps
okay i don't mean to offend anybody's point of view but ,man, for millions of years has ate plants and ANIMALS! We have also been making cheese and milk for centuries. Don't get me wrong I love animals (I have 2 dogs) but I'm not going to stop eating meat for anyones feelings
I'm a non-vegetarian but I have to agree, animals are treated horibally(I know misspelled) but I've been to holland and you can actually see alot of free animals, it was fun to watch cows relaxing while on the interstate.
@galatasarayfan67 They are probably dreaming of how to escape their soon to come death. Since cows are slaves of death and can be easily found if they wander off. And people say they have no character. Who would with their children being kidnapped and murdered. The mothers are raped and slaughtered. And they can't just slither into the trees and escape this horror. They are alive and just like us only no jobs to go to or homes. They are transported to distant places and forced to live.
It would be better if you actually hit the reply tab instead of the comment tab to tell me. I'm actually laughing at all the replies I made here. I must have run amok? And no one was replying to them I guess I felt compelled to reply. Freedom of speech makes me comment agressive.Don't worry someone will come along and it will scroll off of this page. Besides these are replies and they should be under the comments I replied to. I have yet to understand why that doesn't work.
Why? Because I told you how to reply. Instead of making yourself look like you have someone on the run. I will reply to the oldest comment I can find if it suits me. Being called a smartass makes me think I am a stegosaurus. So thank you what a great compliment. Call me other animal names it makes me feel great. How about a comment hog. Ha ha Yours is only 7 hours old. I can still smell the electronics in the type. I'll be rooting around here a little longer. cows
You should really write what you are going to say down.
Also, my friends father owns the second largest dairy farm in Canada, yes cows are kept in captivity, but they are given lots of space, not little cells like many people think.
I have had a few people comment or message me to tell me that they have seen a farm that treats their animals well. However, there are many regular practices that are condoned by factory farming. There are also problems that will not go away by going free-range, organic, or what have you.
Sorry about that, just the pauses kinda threw me off. Another tip (not to piss you off) but you talk so quietly! But I do agree with some things you say (such as your shark comment) but I could never go vegan. Or vegetarian, considering what meat has done for us in the past ( because we started to cook and eat meat and brains developed to what they are today). Perhaps our race becoming vegetarian is a sign of intelligence. As many odd things are. Dammit, now I'm thinking about things!
I haven't watched my own video for a while (I usually don't because I get self-conscious, LOL) but the pauses are probably to glance at my notes. Also, this was my first video. I know, I do speak quietly. I am already soft-spoken and then my camera picks up backround noise. But I think I may know how to fix it now.
Anyway, going vegetarian or vegan is surprisingly easy. You probably already eat a lot of vegetarian/vegan meals already. Veggie food is GOOD!! :D
Ever since I saw Craig Kielburger do a presentation I've wanted to go help build a school in Africa. I'm thinking of colonizing different parts or Africa to help get some society started in parts of it with lots of poverty. But that would never work out, I'm sure people would find some reason to protest it.
@dgfvzx I think people are talking about "veal calves" being in cells. And that is related to the dairy industry, because those calves are from artificially impregnated heifers. But also, the heifers are forced to stand still for hours, as they are milked, so that's not exactly "lots of space".
you... don't even go there... waste of energy. Wait for people to have an actual idea, THEN you can take em up and help them - arguing whether your concept fit others is... well... I have never seen it leading somewhere productive...
You appear to have a mild flirtateous disposition... That's the vibe I get from this video when you speak into the camera. Maybe it's just your eyes - I decided to watch your vid about votebots. You shouldn't disable the rating, you should get Youtube to fix the problem for you somehow. I think others have done it; right?
I don't have a big enough channel for them to even care. They only care about people who bring them in money. YouTube partners get away with everything.
Wow, that's really unfair. Can't say I'm surprised though. - I admire the fact that you seem sincere in your beliefs, and not some maniac on an ego-trip. Very few people take a moral stance so profound and remain humble. Indeed many that I've (personally) met develop a prominent superiority complex. I enjoyed watching your videos, and talking to you, and I wish you the best of luck. I won't be subscribing though; I'm about as far from vegan as you can get. o_O
'Some maniac on an ego-trip' sounds like Onision! Haha. I hope that if I ever act like that, my true friends will tell me I am out of line.
I haven't considered why people develop a superiority complex. Perhaps it is because we see the cruelty to animals to be one of the worst atrocities (currently). There are not many situations where a human will be treated the same way.
You do not have to apologize for not subscribing. I'm not looking for numbers; responses like yours are what count. (:
Getting mercury poisoning from fish is acctually pretty rare. The only time eating fish can put you at risk for mercury poisoning is when you frequently eat only one particular species of fish. As long as you eat a variety of species of fish, and don't go on a fad diet, you should be fine. Also--just like almost everything else--anything in moderation is fine.
Although I am not vegan Props on doing the FAQ and telling people about being vegan. The cotton comment really is funny.
yeah I totally get the fish question ALL the time! grrrrr it stricks a nerve everytime I hear it. I usually say, "no fish is meat. I'm a VEGETARIAN not a Pescetarian." Liz prob. gets that question too. Also I get the "I can't live without meat" comments. Its pretty easy for me. I think its funny how many people have that huge attachment
Dude I meant the taste of meat. Well I seem to be surviving without meat and by the way I'm not a vegan.
but anyway, you can be healthy without meat. over here in america one of the problems is that many people consume way too much protein. most people have some sort of nutrient deficiency, that too is a fact. I'm happy being a vegetarian and i have a decent amount of protein in my diet
In a study, they found that vegetarians and vegans (who do not live off of junk food) still get all, if not twice, the protein recommendation they need. A protein deficiency is unheard of in the US, but we like to pretend that it's not uncommon.
What school taught you the word fact. And what country. Fact ha ha ha. I would love to meet the person that told you that or the way you came up with that notion. Fact ha ha ha. People are so crazy sometimes. Fact ha ha ha. That is to good. Must not laugh. Ha ha ha That's hilarious.Fact. I would love to favorite your comment. Just to look at it and laugh.That's great fact ha ha ha.I can't stop laughing. To have watched you listen and actually believe that would be priceless.
Sorry, it was not my intent to bother you. I was actually trying to question whether Veganism needs cultural, social or geographical context - or should there be no exceptions?
If you were an Inuit living above the Arctic Circle, could you be a Vegan and survive?
Eaton SB, Eaton SB III, Konner MJ, Shostak M. An evolutionary perspective enhances understanding of human nutritional requirements. J Nutr1996; 126:173240
@argylecat Hydroponics the end to hunger and animal destruction. What a great word Hydroponics. Robotisized even. The rich will say, write, pay, kill to stay rich. Animals have to be freed from the tyranny of humans. This is a planet not a friggin textbook. They are living beings on the same planet you brainwashed ___________. I hate the education system for reasons like this. Their facts and their truths.The educated ones are doing ALL the damage to the planet. Animals deserve respect.
There are literally NO posts on your channel with an opposing view. So anyone who disagrees with you is idiotic, nonsensical, illogical, and ignorant?
That is such bull shit. Even the sexist comments I get on this channel are not censored. All views are out in the open. Congrats on being the first to be blocked on my channel.
If you can't be an adult and stop trolling my channel, I promise you. You will be blocked.
Feel lucky that I've even given you the chance to speak, considering you censor ALL comments on your channel that don't agree with your brain washing death cult.
Sure..... play the religion card. Do you honestly think animals are created just to be killed? Why do they have emotions? So they can get murdered? You can chose to worship and have respect for animals. Look at porolita22's channel. she's a Christian. You just don't care.
Life is life - whether in a cat, or dog or man. There is no difference there between a cat or a man. The idea of difference is a human conception for man's own advantage.
@kfcnuggets1 Your god also wanted people to kill their first born sons. Along with a lot of other things it decided against. So therefore it has made mistakes and is not perfect. The end.
A question you might want to answer for yourself as well as for me; why do you find vegans so threatening? Are you afraid we're going to find out where you live and steal the rump roast from your refrigerator? Do you think we're going to pin you down and pump the meat from your stomach? Or are you more afraid that if we're right, people will start to listen... as is already happening as thousands convert to vegan/vegetarian diets every day?
Untrue. The fact is that we have the mouth gape, jaw hinge location, teeth, saliva, salivary glands, salivary enzymes, salivary pH, stomach capacity, stomach acid, digestive tract length, colon routing, interior colon contour and even urine concentration of a herbivore. By every confirmed physiological digestive trait we are shown to be mono-gastric herbivores.
This explains why, when we consume an omnivorous diet, we die from heart attacks, stroke and cancer like any other herbivore.
If you have an argument beyond simply gain-saying, you should present it. In that you don't, it's logical to recognize that you have no position of knowledge from which to object.
So you can either learn or stick your head in the sand and repeat what you wish to believe over and over.
Our physiology shows that we're herbivores and when we eat like omnivores, we die of the same diseases found in laboratory tests where herbivores are fed an omnivorous diet -- heart attack & stroke (MI & CVA).
So all wisdom is found within the frames of YouTube videos in your belief? What about the one being discussed here which is pro-vegan? What about the many other pro-herbivore videos?
If you really want to know, rather than just wanting to be able to assert yourself without ever opening a book on the subject, why not do some actual research instead of presenting a string of empty, baseless assertions? You'll find you're incorrect.
Interesting that I can name a multitude of studies and reports that agree with my conclusions; "Framingham Heart Study", "The International Atherosclerotic Project", "Incidence and Prognosis of Unrecognized Myocardial Infarction", "Cholesterol in the Prediction of Atherosclerotic Disease", "Diet; Serum Cholesterol and Death from Coronary Heart Disease", "Nutrition Studies of Vegetarians IV. Dietary Fatty Acids and Serum Cholesterol Levels"... etc.
Wrong. Carnivore/omnivore's intestines are smooth and only three times as long as their bodies. An herbivore's intestines are lumpy and 10 to 12 times their body length. Humans intestines are lumpy and 10 to 11 times our body length. A carnivore's/omnivore's stomach capacity is 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract. An herbivore's stomach capacity is Less than 30% of total volume of digestive tract. HUMAN: 21% to 27% of total volume of digestive tract.
Interesting how those who know the information always seem to draw the same conclusions while those who never take the time to learn anything about the topic are almost always on the counter side of the issue.
I guess it's a bit like belief in a flat Earth. It takes a bit of research to find out how wrong that idea is.
Actually, animals that consume animal-flesh tend to have very large stomach capacities. They're gorgers. We have the stomach capacity of a grazing animal. We eat smaller quantities, more frequently.
And animals that consume meat have stomach acid about 20-times stronger than that found in the human stomach. This protects them from the bacteria and microbes (E Coli, Salmonella, botulinum, etc.), which grow so rapidly on meat.
I have to agree, Knitty. And as you said, he set himself up to fail by spouting an opinion unsupported by any research. Have you ever noticed how emotional people... especially men, tend to get when their diet is suggested to be inappropriate?
Research at Stonybrook University, directed by Charles Taber showed that religion and politics were emotional, rather than logical, issues. Just a few minutes of discussion shows that diet is also emotional, not logical, for those devoid of information.
Yes, it seems so. The only reason anyone would search for videos on veganism if they were unwilling to hear the information, would be to troll them because they feel threatened by it. When someone else makes a change, it makes you look inside yourself & makes some people uncomfortable.
Oh& not to mention so many other herbivorous traits that we possess. There is really only one omnivorous trait that we have& that is the position of our eyes. However, in nature, that is still inconsistent! Haha
True about the eyes but we're also far more visual than most animals and placing the eyes in front provides us with depth perception -- a very valuable trait for any creature so reliant upon sight.
If an animal isn't a standard prey animal (and humans aren't in most cases), it does little good to place the eyes on the sides. And we're primates, of course, and primates tend to have forward-looking eyes -- even those who are omnivorous.
This was just my first; mostly to get used to vlogging. For some reason, I was nervous about making a video at the time. Just witnessing all the YT drama intimidated me for a while. I'm just about over that now haha. :P
See, KnittyGrittyNatch talks all "smat" and stuff too! Perhaps that's because both she and I have actually looked into the issue and we're not just reacting on the assumption that whatever the majority believes is automatically correct.
In fact, if you look to the majority that have actually studied diet, they agree that man isn't structured to consume animal-based foods. It's only those who never look into the matter who compose the majority of society and who disagree based on tradition.
Contemporary archeology is now suggesting that meat was a much smaller part of the diet of early humans than was formerly thought. It makes sense that bones might still be found around early human dwellings while seeds, succulents and peels would be long gone.
Man's development toward tool-use provided an option. Normally, the lack of claws and long sharp teeth make meat consumption difficult. But our bodies are structured for plants so as meat consumption rises, so do the implicated diseases.
19bj90, - RE: "that does not prove any thing still."
I never said it did. I simply answered your question. But many of the topics covered here provide more than adequate demonstration for the validity and preference of the vegan diet. - RE: "i will not be responding to your replys any more for this is went on to long."
Are you sure it doesn't have more to do with the fact that every time you challenged you ended up finding out you were wrong? We like to call that "cut & run". ;-)
So it has nothing to do with the fact that humans really do have the digestive physiology of a mono-gastric herbivore? It has nothing to do with your challenge that we have the stomach of a carnivore which was shown to be wrong?
Wherever did you get the idea that I'm better than you? I'm simply better informed because I sought information instead of tradition.
19bj98, - RE: "i still do not bellive that crap and plz do not send me any more replys "
You don't have to believe it. It goes right on being true while you go right on making yourself ill and driving yourself to the grave by the choices you make. It's certainly your business.
Isn't it interesting how those of certain mentalities believe they should have the right to spew out one last response and deny anyone and everyone the right to respond to their comments? It doesn't work like that.
This doesn't really deserve a response but I think it's worth pointing out that when you're trying to insult someone, it takes a lot of the sting out of your comment when you can't even spell the insulting words correctly. I don't know... it just sort of turns the whole thing around. I'll accept this as typical of the level of reason you apply to your arguments. If you had an actual argument, you'd present it. This is the best you can do.
Aww, poor baby. I guess you shouldn't post on vegan channels then, eh? How about when you come across a vegan video, you keep your mouth shut if you're not willing to argue?
- RE: "just leave me alone i do not wont to have an argument"
Did it not occur to you that if you walked into a discussion spouting insults and telling people they're wrong when you apparently have nothing upon which to base such an assertion, that you're doing everything you can to get yourself into an argument?
I'm sorry if I come across as an ass but here goes. I do not understand vegans at all. Animal testing is the reason why the human race is where its at. Polio is gone, cancer treatments are getting better, the list goes on, how can you blame your food choice on such a noble cause? I do not support animal cruelty, but I do understand some things need to be done in order to advance medical sciences. I do hunt as its something I was born into, the animals do not suffer. You people confuse me.
And we are often confused by those with your viewpoints. You don't come across as an ass (at least, not in my opinion), but you do come across as unfamiliar with some of the pertinent facts.
There is no longer any value to animal testing. The information obtained through such research can now be obtained through in vitro and computer modeling methods.
If someone shot your mother and she died quickly, would you not find anything wrong in that because she "didn't suffer"?
I can honestly say that if my mother were to be shot I would be comforted by the fact that she died quickly. Now as for the person/persons that did the shooting, I personally would see to it that they died a far more painful death.
As for your fish comment above, that's a pretty extreme case. Fish here in Canada are constantly monitored to ensure the safety of the fish population, as well as the human population that consume the fish. I very highly doubt that the toxins are that high in them.
RE: "Now as for the person/persons that did the shooting, I personally would see to it that they died a far more painful death."
Well, there you have it. Obviously, you feel they would have done something very wrong and should be punished. So you can see that the taking of innocent life is wrong.
RE: "I very highly doubt that the toxins are that high in them. "
This sounds like a comment of faith. Do you actually know the levels?
Fish with PCB levels greater than 5ppm cannot legally be sold for food. If over 50ppm, they must be specially processed prior to disposal.
What you may not realize is that PCBs build up over time. The more fish you eat, the higher the toxins in your body. Orcas eat fish and often show levels of 1100ppm. The body stores, rather than purges them.
I don't eat orcas lol. Walleye, pike, and stream fish (trout + salmon) are the ones most often consumed here. The salmon come from lake ontario and are questionable at best, so I don't eat them. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where your fish come from and how "edible" they actually are. More pesticides and chemicals are sprayed on plants than fish. I'd like to see where your getting your numbers from because I don't believe it one bit.
Then pick up a copy of "Diet for a New America" for starters. The book contains a very comprehensive list noting the sources for just about every number and claim presented.
As for eating orcas, I'm afraid you missed the point. The levels of toxins found in the orcas are very high because they build up in their fatty tissues, just as happens every time you eat a fish. Eat ten fish and you'll have the toxins of 10 fish in your fatty tissues.
The toxins bind with fatty tissues, not with water.
Water soluble pesticides would quickly wash off the plants and dissolve in ground water. So they are made to be fat soluble instead. In water they remain in tiny droplets, much like oil. When they contact a fish which has fatty tissues, they dissolve into the fishes tissues and remain there...
...until you come along and eat the fish. Then they become dissolved in YOUR tissues. Each time you eat a fish, the level of toxins dissolved in your tissues increases. So follow the cycle (cont).
Suppose a cow eats 20-pounds of grain. The grain contains a tiny amount of fat-soluble toxins. The next day the cow eats another 20-pounds of grain. Each day the level of toxins rise in the cow's tissues. After months and months of increasing the levels daily, you come along and eat the cow. Each step up in the food chain increases the toxin levels by a factor of ten.
So do you get more toxic residues eating the grain, or by eating the cow's accumulation of toxins? The numbers don't lie.
Now back to the fish. Toxins enter the water. Tiny insects eat the toxins each day, and they build up in the insect's body. Eventually a tiny fish eats the insect and all of those toxins become dissolved in the fishes fatty tissues. Each day the fish eats more insects and more toxins build up in it's fatty tissues, until...
... a larger fish comes along and eats the smaller fish and takes on it's accumulation - day after day. The process repeats until you end up with ALL of the toxins.
what about the amount of pesticides and chemical fertilizers dumped on plants. Your eating the same toxins, in fact your eating them in a far purer state than what they would be if the cow had eaten them in the example you had just given. Wash the veggies all u want, when they bring in the water, they bring in the toxins. Your point of toxins is completely bogus.
The state of the toxins changes very little. I've already addressed this but... they're made to be very stable so that they don't break down in strong sunlight.
And the difference in the amounts is that we consume only the slight residues left on the plants. You consume the accumulation of residues built up in the fatty tissues all the way up the food chain with a 10-fold increase at each level. So you consume MANY TIMES more toxic residues that someone who abstains from animal-based foods.
If such were the case I'd be dead. There's no way any person can sustain that amount of toxic poisoning and continue to function normally. You know that as well as I do. On a side note most animals are butchered to leave some fat, but remove as much as possible, so Im not chomping down on pure fat. Oh and just so you know you can buy "organic" meats meaning the food the animals ate contains no chemicals beyond what is already in the soil.
It is the case and you're not dead. Why would you think tossing out blanket, unsupported assertions would offer anything compelling for your argument?
RE: "There's no way any person can sustain that amount of toxic poisoning and continue to function normally."
What amount?
People aren't functioning normally. Over 500,000 cancer deaths a year? Over 750,000 deaths due to heart attack. Is that "normal"? It is if you eat the U.S. diet.
Now, I know you don't eat a whole cow. The wheat-to-beef conversion factor is 16:1. That means it takes 16-pounds of wheat to produce 1-pound of beef. So for every pound of beef you consume, you're ingesting the toxins found on 16-pounds of wheat.
Have you ever consumed a 16oz steak? Have you ever sat down and consumed 16-pounds of bread? The level of toxins in the beef are 16-times that found in the wheat fed to the cow. An grain fed to livestock is more likely to be cleaned carelessly.
Oh and on your note of a "grain fed stock is likely to be fed carelessly." You would be incorrect. I worked on a dairy farm, that also had jerseys for meat. Those animals were cleaned DAILY, they drank filtered water, and ate fodder that WE grew. Those cows were probably cleaner than I was at the end of the day.
Then that's there own damn fault. The cows that end up on my plate live very healthy lives, I buy a cow to stick in the freezer every year, and I know exactly where it lives, and how it lives. I do not buy meat from grocery stores. All of my meat products come from local farmers, and I butcher the meat myself. (animal is obviously dead when I get it) All of my friends and family do the same.
So the meat you consume likely contains less pesticide residues than average, but still far more than do fruits and vegetables.
Clearly you don't like the reality so much that you'll try to hand-wave it with unsupported statements. But I do, can and have supported my statements and I'm sending you a personal message with links you should read. They back up what I've been telling you.
Your diet is your business. I'm simply informing you. Your risk of heart attack is still over 50%.
This supposed hand waving is to get your attention. We don't all eat the same food, and thus DO NOT fall into this realm of the U.S. diet you mentioned below. Am I taking in more toxins? Probably, is it going to kill me? no. Is it going to shorten my life span? no. All of the references you have provided me are biased towards the vegan/vegetarian lifestyle and provide statistics for such a small portion of a population they cannot be taken seriously.
There have been dozens of studies, many involving tens of thousands of test subjects and what they show is that you have answered your own questions, incorrectly.
Are the toxins going to kill you? Most likely, yes.
Are they going to shorten your life? Isn't that what happens when they kill you?
Again; heart attack is the #1 killer (about 38% of all deaths annually, in the U.S.), and heart attacks are linked directly to consumption of meat. Strokes & Heart attack have the same cause.
Again, cancer rates in those who abstain from eating meat are only 40% of that seen in those who do eat meat. Vegetarians display only 25% of the heart attack rate and vegans show less than 7% of the heart attack rate.
Statistically, you have about a 50/50 chance of dying from a heart attack. And heart attacks are NOT a natural form of death. They're a premature death totaling over 750,000 annually in the U.S. alone. If you're over 16-years of age, you already have atherosclerotic plaques.
Do you have me blocked in some manner? I've attempted to send you links to verify the information you keep claiming isn't true and my messages aren't going through.
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Google Books "Diet for a New America"
"Meat contains approximately 14 times more pesticides than do plant foods; diary products 5½ times more. Thus, by eating foods of animal origin, one ingests greatly concentrated amounts of hazardous chemicals."
Okay, I must not have altered the URLs sufficiently to get them past YouTube's filter. I guess I'll have to strip them out completely and you'll either have to do searches on just the text I provide from the sites, or provide another means by which I can provide the links to you.
Most toxins and pesticides are purposely designed to be fat soluble so that they don't wash off in rain. They're also highly stable so that they don't decay in strong sunlight.
Eighty-nine percent of the toxic residues ingested through the human diet come from built-up fat-soluble chemicals in meat, poultry, fish and dairy. Only 11% come from fruits, vegetables, legumes, etc.
Rates of heart attack, cancer, diabetes, osteoporosis, etc. are far lower in those with vegan/vegetarian diets.
OK, "but fish is very bad for you because you can get mercury poisoning" Its not the fish that's bad for you it is the water. Dose that mean if you are eating a plant that has been contaminated I can tell you that that plant is bad for you? As for fishing there is fish hatcheries so we don't over fish but if we under fish we might have a over population problem, with over population of one species that species might whip out another. And what happens when you find that plant have feelings eh?
Unfortunately I am not ready to die and/or be eaten. You should just become a mortician, there is no short supply of people there. Or you could go for the less extreme and buy some tasty human flavored tofu!
It might be possible for a old and new type of belief surfaces up cannibalism!, ya know they say the easiest way to make money is to start a cult! (In the words of Lafayette Ronald Hubbard creator of Scientology) and its now or never for you. And hey, you can start out as a group of vegans and go from there. Or is that what Peta is planing?!?! (Que the maniacal music.)
You know humans were never there to regulate other species millions of years ago and the world didn't end, if anything human attempts to regulate the enviroment usually make it worse like intoducing predators to control pests or bringing foriegn species into new enviroments.
Vegans don't eat fish because their animals is the point shes trying to make not that you can get poisened by them.
The problem is that humans have tampered with the environment so much that if we stop trying to regulate it, I and allot of other people do not know what would happen, be it good or bad. And I know that vegans don't eat fish because they are animals, but the point I was making is the fact that she wrongly stated that fish were bad for you, which is not true (Not including the moral standpoint). I just didn't want people to think that something they eat on a regular basis if bad for them. = )
Also I would like to state that I'm not against not eating meat I would love to see a perfect world someday, but as of now I and many other people are meat lovers and I don't think Its the way the world works, was working, and will work for quite a long time if ever. But frankly I hope I'm wrong, and at the same time I hope I'm right about it because of my meat loving personality. Kudos to the people that are trying to bring a evolutionary change to our diet and the way we think about animals.
Fair enough we may have to regulate some species that we introduced (in a non harmful way), however the idea that we if we don't fish enough some castastrophe might occur is wrong, if anything we need to stop fishing now to save the oceans
That was my main point but I did mention mercury poisoning because many people go vegetarian 'except for fish.' They're not actually vegetarians of course, but their reasoning for eating fish is usually 'it's good for you.'
I think it's funny how people are so worried about getting their essential fatty acids (which are in walnuts, avocado, olives, etc) but still eat crap with saturated and trans fat. :P
That is sorta strange that people go vegetarian except for fish, that sorta ruins the whole essence of being a vegetarian. Its understandable that you had to say s
I went vegetarian 30 years ago at the age of 8. I didn't know any and my family thought it was a phase then 3 years ago, I became vegan. They knew it wasn't a phase this time but wondered why I couldn't eat milk, dairy and eggs and wear wool. I had to explain it to them.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
great to see more vegans out there
TheJUNGLESURFER 1 year ago
so what do we do then? Endanger plants by eating them more than eat animals? We have plenty of endangerment to worry about with plants since big business doesn't seem to care as much about how much they destroy the environment until it either becomes correct for their image to appear pro green freak or it starts to become a real problem when they can't get the materials. What we need to do is conserve both animals and vegetation, for the sake of both food and the well being of other things.
jamesdragonforce 1 year ago
@jamesdragonforce Dude, do some research and THEN form an opinion.
UraniumMan 1 year ago
Did you ever stop to realize that American agricultural practice and science has saved tens of millions of lives based on its efficiency? But in your tiny mind, its all evil because you think a brainless beast can appreciate quality of life like a human can. Why should you care, you've never gone hungry, you've never watched a child starve to death. Only a truly callous cunt would put the welfare of an irrational animal before her own species.
Silenxer 2 years ago
Your head is shaped like an egg and your face is covered in zits. Good for you cunt!
Silenxer 2 years ago
No human is meat eater only. We are omnivores. We can survive anywhere on any food. More superior to carnivores or herbivores.
Only naive person would go back in evolution and stop eating all foods.
ndrca 2 years ago
@ndrca
Well not really, dogs are real omnivores, humans are vegetarians, just look at our body anatomy. Humnas do eat meat, but look at the health problems that we're under because of the diet. I've been vegan for over 13 years and never got sick and I'm more active and have more energy than ever.
Actually evolutions leads to sustainable foods, which no animal product is sustainable or good for the planet, animals or people. Go forth :)
haydenvegan 2 years ago
Go tell that to Eskimos and natives of Siberia to start growing plants in ice.
ndrca 2 years ago
@ndrca Is that where YOU live?
UraniumMan 1 year ago
@UraniumMan What about where I live?
Being vegan is latest fad in rich countries. If you want to be healthy work out, build muscle, eat balanced diet (no junk food, excess alcohol, etc).
ndrca 1 year ago
@haydenvegan
Good work, anecdotal evidence is exactly the same as empirical research. Please, graduate grade school before offering your idiotic opinions, nigger.
Silenxer 2 years ago
Oh and Merry Christmas, hope everyone enjoys the Christmas goose as much as I do!
turokdarkstar 2 years ago
If God didn't want us to eat the animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat.
TheSkootertrash 2 years ago
there is no God.
ItalianMorrison 2 years ago
@TheSkootertrash Your made of meat.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
I know you well meaning but your 'facts' are too vague. Its clear your just quoteing what you've heard from someone else rather than actually reseaching any of your topics. Especially your dairy farming comments! For your information A.I. is used because its safer for the cow than the traditional way when massive bulls mount the cows. I could go on but won't. Please realise the responciblities and dangers of posting misleading information. By right you should remove this video.
twinklemollflossyred 2 years ago
@twinklemollflossyred They artificially inseminate because it is cheaper than buying better bulls. You can get a better bull that there is only one of. And can insure that the cows or heifers you are breeding that they are getting pregnant. In other words you can't trust the bulls to do them all. And you can get all the calves to be born at the time you want. Don't eat meat. Also they can experiment and change their herd easier for better production. It is still rape to me.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
They're artificially inseminated because its a business, why would a farmer buy a bull if he's only going to be used during the mating season once/year?Plus the sperm that is used comes from those selectively bred 'better bulls'. Farmers (generally) love their herd and treat them really well,for at the end of the day the happier the herd the better their produce is. I dont see what the problem is.
twinklemollflossyred 2 years ago
@twinklemollflossyred That's what I typed twinkletoes. The bull is used to stimulate the cows coming into breeding time. And the bull does breed some. There is no mating season in dairy. They have to keep having calves to produce milk. Twinkle don't use the person your replying to comments to win your argument. Why do people keep replying to me with what I commented with. It is like telling me what I said. WTF.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
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I would let her suck my dick even with those fucking zits.
88TheGreatest 2 years ago
wow what a generalized statement fish is bad for you because it has mercury.
Predatory fish are known to have higher levels of mercury, e.g tuna. Most fish are haelthy for humans. The same arugment can be made to fruits and vegtables. The pesticides on the majority of our produce is known to cause cancer, and birth defects. And the modern day soil is depleted of essential nutrients vital for plants. result is most plants lack what they used to have. and cow manure is the best fertilizer.hmm
samsunit144 2 years ago 2
@samsunit144 Go hydroponics.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
@samsunit144 Well then, I can give you an accurate generalization. Eating fish is unhealthy for the fish. Try to refute that one. :oP
UraniumMan 1 year ago
I agree with nath films. and get some facial scrub/ make-up while your at it. you'd figure the "almighty vegan diet" would fix your gross face.
samsunit144 2 years ago
I'll never give up meat. It tastes too good.
Siphon880yt 2 years ago
@Siphon880yt Actually meat is bland and you like the spices and sauces that you put on it. Most people eat meat because of traditional or religous reasoning. There are more flavors to fruits and vegetables than meat. And you can spice it to even better taste. A lot of meat eating has to do with claiming to be a man. If you kill innocence as a man then you aren't much of one. Protect innocence don't eat it. Do you burn up all the protein that meat is eaten for.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
i went vegetarian november 9th 2007 after watching only half of the earthlings doco, it put me right off meat, then i ended up watching the rest of earthlings this year and went vegan the first of march, i havent eaten tofutti cheese yet, i was wondering what it takes like, i drink soy milk, is there anything vegan that it sort of tastes like? im 21 from australia and just wanted to know, thanks heaps
NathFilms 2 years ago
Congrats on the veganism!!
I am not sure of any vegan cheese brands in Australia. Try asking TheVeganicWitch. (:
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
okay i don't mean to offend anybody's point of view but ,man, for millions of years has ate plants and ANIMALS! We have also been making cheese and milk for centuries. Don't get me wrong I love animals (I have 2 dogs) but I'm not going to stop eating meat for anyones feelings
Gavspartan96 2 years ago
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shut the fuck up vegan scum
DrunkAngryRussian 2 years ago
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get fucked cunt
NathFilms 2 years ago
I'm a non-vegetarian but I have to agree, animals are treated horibally(I know misspelled) but I've been to holland and you can actually see alot of free animals, it was fun to watch cows relaxing while on the interstate.
galatasarayfan67 2 years ago 3
@galatasarayfan67 They are probably dreaming of how to escape their soon to come death. Since cows are slaves of death and can be easily found if they wander off. And people say they have no character. Who would with their children being kidnapped and murdered. The mothers are raped and slaughtered. And they can't just slither into the trees and escape this horror. They are alive and just like us only no jobs to go to or homes. They are transported to distant places and forced to live.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
You, stop repling to everyone whos comments are probably more than 2 months old, since you just went page after page of comments repling.
galatasarayfan67 2 years ago
@galatasarayfan67
It would be better if you actually hit the reply tab instead of the comment tab to tell me. I'm actually laughing at all the replies I made here. I must have run amok? And no one was replying to them I guess I felt compelled to reply. Freedom of speech makes me comment agressive.Don't worry someone will come along and it will scroll off of this page. Besides these are replies and they should be under the comments I replied to. I have yet to understand why that doesn't work.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
Well your now being a smartass, well I dont want to waste my time with you anymore so my last reply. I suggest you dont reply back.
galatasarayfan67 2 years ago
@galatasarayfan67
Why? Because I told you how to reply. Instead of making yourself look like you have someone on the run. I will reply to the oldest comment I can find if it suits me. Being called a smartass makes me think I am a stegosaurus. So thank you what a great compliment. Call me other animal names it makes me feel great. How about a comment hog. Ha ha Yours is only 7 hours old. I can still smell the electronics in the type. I'll be rooting around here a little longer. cows
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
You should really write what you are going to say down.
Also, my friends father owns the second largest dairy farm in Canada, yes cows are kept in captivity, but they are given lots of space, not little cells like many people think.
dgfvzx 2 years ago
I have had a few people comment or message me to tell me that they have seen a farm that treats their animals well. However, there are many regular practices that are condoned by factory farming. There are also problems that will not go away by going free-range, organic, or what have you.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
Oh and I do write down what I'm about to say. :P
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
D=
Sorry about that, just the pauses kinda threw me off. Another tip (not to piss you off) but you talk so quietly! But I do agree with some things you say (such as your shark comment) but I could never go vegan. Or vegetarian, considering what meat has done for us in the past ( because we started to cook and eat meat and brains developed to what they are today). Perhaps our race becoming vegetarian is a sign of intelligence. As many odd things are. Dammit, now I'm thinking about things!
dgfvzx 2 years ago
I haven't watched my own video for a while (I usually don't because I get self-conscious, LOL) but the pauses are probably to glance at my notes. Also, this was my first video. I know, I do speak quietly. I am already soft-spoken and then my camera picks up backround noise. But I think I may know how to fix it now.
Anyway, going vegetarian or vegan is surprisingly easy. You probably already eat a lot of vegetarian/vegan meals already. Veggie food is GOOD!! :D
It's good to think! haha.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
I've been thinking too much lately.
Ever since I saw Craig Kielburger do a presentation I've wanted to go help build a school in Africa. I'm thinking of colonizing different parts or Africa to help get some society started in parts of it with lots of poverty. But that would never work out, I'm sure people would find some reason to protest it.
dgfvzx 2 years ago
@dgfvzx I think people are talking about "veal calves" being in cells. And that is related to the dairy industry, because those calves are from artificially impregnated heifers. But also, the heifers are forced to stand still for hours, as they are milked, so that's not exactly "lots of space".
UraniumMan 1 year ago
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dgfvzx 2 years ago
I heard this question a while ago and i have always wondered the answer so i was wondering if you could enlighten me...
If vegans obstain from meat, dairy and eggs- do they spit or swallow durring oral sex??
or is that more of a thing that differs from veganer to veganer???
please help me out
thanks!
yellowschoolbusplaya 2 years ago
You're okay to swallow. Swallow all the cum you want, it's vegan.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
Wow whats going on here swallow all the what ?
isaiahact 2 years ago
Premolars (bicuspids) are the slicing teeth. Mammals originally had eight
pairs of premolars, although most mammals alive today have fewer. Premolars
are the primary teeth used by meat eating specialists, and are frequently
missing in animals that specialize in plant foods. Humans have four pairs
of premolars, which suggests that humans have the ability to process animal
food.
ndrca 2 years ago
@ndrca And Pandas have canines. Blah blah blah.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
I love tofutti pizza :O
Opsomaniac 2 years ago
I didn't know they made pizza. :P
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
:o, find it immediately.
Opsomaniac 2 years ago
No... they grow in the sea. And they use photosynthesis to grow fins (leaves)
redbeaver 2 years ago
Fins are not leafs just as wings or arms are not leafs. Now I insist...you must be joking.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
you... don't even go there... waste of energy. Wait for people to have an actual idea, THEN you can take em up and help them - arguing whether your concept fit others is... well... I have never seen it leading somewhere productive...
aegidaeon 2 years ago
Err I'm pretty sure fish are plants
redbeaver 2 years ago
I hope you're joking.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Alphonzen 2 years ago
Knitty how old are you? One theory is that a vegan diet ages you less quickly as regular diets. I want to compare. Thanks.
brandonkirk 2 years ago
You appear to have a mild flirtateous disposition... That's the vibe I get from this video when you speak into the camera. Maybe it's just your eyes - I decided to watch your vid about votebots. You shouldn't disable the rating, you should get Youtube to fix the problem for you somehow. I think others have done it; right?
futurestoryteller 2 years ago
I don't have a big enough channel for them to even care. They only care about people who bring them in money. YouTube partners get away with everything.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
Wow, that's really unfair. Can't say I'm surprised though. - I admire the fact that you seem sincere in your beliefs, and not some maniac on an ego-trip. Very few people take a moral stance so profound and remain humble. Indeed many that I've (personally) met develop a prominent superiority complex. I enjoyed watching your videos, and talking to you, and I wish you the best of luck. I won't be subscribing though; I'm about as far from vegan as you can get. o_O
futurestoryteller 2 years ago
'Some maniac on an ego-trip' sounds like Onision! Haha. I hope that if I ever act like that, my true friends will tell me I am out of line.
I haven't considered why people develop a superiority complex. Perhaps it is because we see the cruelty to animals to be one of the worst atrocities (currently). There are not many situations where a human will be treated the same way.
You do not have to apologize for not subscribing. I'm not looking for numbers; responses like yours are what count. (:
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
Getting mercury poisoning from fish is acctually pretty rare. The only time eating fish can put you at risk for mercury poisoning is when you frequently eat only one particular species of fish. As long as you eat a variety of species of fish, and don't go on a fad diet, you should be fine. Also--just like almost everything else--anything in moderation is fine.
Although I am not vegan Props on doing the FAQ and telling people about being vegan. The cotton comment really is funny.
itskin 2 years ago
yeah I totally get the fish question ALL the time! grrrrr it stricks a nerve everytime I hear it. I usually say, "no fish is meat. I'm a VEGETARIAN not a Pescetarian." Liz prob. gets that question too. Also I get the "I can't live without meat" comments. Its pretty easy for me. I think its funny how many people have that huge attachment
way2weird0 2 years ago
huge attachment to living and being healthy? is that a bad thing to you? you have to eat meat to be healthy, that is a fact
keisabi 2 years ago
Oh is it now? According to whom?
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
according to science, ever read any biology or anything scientific?
keisabi 2 years ago
Ever try providing evidence? After all, *that's what science is.*
You are scared to be wrong so you jump around it. Ha.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
Dude I meant the taste of meat. Well I seem to be surviving without meat and by the way I'm not a vegan.
but anyway, you can be healthy without meat. over here in america one of the problems is that many people consume way too much protein. most people have some sort of nutrient deficiency, that too is a fact. I'm happy being a vegetarian and i have a decent amount of protein in my diet
way2weird0 2 years ago
In a study, they found that vegetarians and vegans (who do not live off of junk food) still get all, if not twice, the protein recommendation they need. A protein deficiency is unheard of in the US, but we like to pretend that it's not uncommon.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
calcium deficiency is more common
way2weird0 2 years ago
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAhA
you have to eat meat to be healthy, funniest thing i've heard all day.
SeanieShrooms 2 years ago
@keisabi
What school taught you the word fact. And what country. Fact ha ha ha. I would love to meet the person that told you that or the way you came up with that notion. Fact ha ha ha. People are so crazy sometimes. Fact ha ha ha. That is to good. Must not laugh. Ha ha ha That's hilarious.Fact. I would love to favorite your comment. Just to look at it and laugh.That's great fact ha ha ha.I can't stop laughing. To have watched you listen and actually believe that would be priceless.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
Sorry, it was not my intent to bother you. I was actually trying to question whether Veganism needs cultural, social or geographical context - or should there be no exceptions?
argylecat 2 years ago
Everything actually. Your talk sounds as if you are morally and ethically motivated to be a Vegan.
argylecat 2 years ago
Take it anyway you want. It doesn't bother me.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
If you were an Inuit living above the Arctic Circle, could you be a Vegan and survive?
Eaton SB, Eaton SB III, Konner MJ, Shostak M. An evolutionary perspective enhances understanding of human nutritional requirements. J Nutr1996; 126:173240
argylecat 2 years ago
What does that have anything to do with what I talked about?
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
@argylecat Hydroponics the end to hunger and animal destruction. What a great word Hydroponics. Robotisized even. The rich will say, write, pay, kill to stay rich. Animals have to be freed from the tyranny of humans. This is a planet not a friggin textbook. They are living beings on the same planet you brainwashed ___________. I hate the education system for reasons like this. Their facts and their truths.The educated ones are doing ALL the damage to the planet. Animals deserve respect.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
Very cute :P
ALF for life.
InsaneMojo2 2 years ago
There are literally NO posts on your channel with an opposing view. So anyone who disagrees with you is idiotic, nonsensical, illogical, and ignorant?
That is such bull shit. Even the sexist comments I get on this channel are not censored. All views are out in the open. Congrats on being the first to be blocked on my channel.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
If you can't be an adult and stop trolling my channel, I promise you. You will be blocked.
Feel lucky that I've even given you the chance to speak, considering you censor ALL comments on your channel that don't agree with your brain washing death cult.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
if u are Christian GOD wants you to eat meat.
kfcnuggets1 2 years ago
Why would I listen to someone who doesn't exist? ;)
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
Sure..... play the religion card. Do you honestly think animals are created just to be killed? Why do they have emotions? So they can get murdered? You can chose to worship and have respect for animals. Look at porolita22's channel. she's a Christian. You just don't care.
Life is life - whether in a cat, or dog or man. There is no difference there between a cat or a man. The idea of difference is a human conception for man's own advantage.
Sri Aurobindo
LaPhoebe 2 years ago 2
Thank you, La Phoebe (:
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
Yah cause it says in teh bible, "Thou shalt eat meat." never heard of that
doggybomb 2 years ago
@kfcnuggets1 Your god also wanted people to kill their first born sons. Along with a lot of other things it decided against. So therefore it has made mistakes and is not perfect. The end.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
wharffratt,
A question you might want to answer for yourself as well as for me; why do you find vegans so threatening? Are you afraid we're going to find out where you live and steal the rump roast from your refrigerator? Do you think we're going to pin you down and pump the meat from your stomach? Or are you more afraid that if we're right, people will start to listen... as is already happening as thousands convert to vegan/vegetarian diets every day?
Beastt17 2 years ago
I'm hot for vegans
dieyoubastards 2 years ago
what a load of crap this is just eat the daam meat an feel bettter seriously
19bj98 2 years ago
Or you could read, attempt to refute and end up learning just how wrong your emotional dietary assertions prove to be. :)
Beastt17 2 years ago
heh your unatural one here i am sory but humans are ment to eat both meat and veggeies the it is a fact
19bj98 2 years ago
Untrue. The fact is that we have the mouth gape, jaw hinge location, teeth, saliva, salivary glands, salivary enzymes, salivary pH, stomach capacity, stomach acid, digestive tract length, colon routing, interior colon contour and even urine concentration of a herbivore. By every confirmed physiological digestive trait we are shown to be mono-gastric herbivores.
This explains why, when we consume an omnivorous diet, we die from heart attacks, stroke and cancer like any other herbivore.
Beastt17 2 years ago
yet a another lie where omnivorous
19bj98 2 years ago
If you have an argument beyond simply gain-saying, you should present it. In that you don't, it's logical to recognize that you have no position of knowledge from which to object.
So you can either learn or stick your head in the sand and repeat what you wish to believe over and over.
Our physiology shows that we're herbivores and when we eat like omnivores, we die of the same diseases found in laboratory tests where herbivores are fed an omnivorous diet -- heart attack & stroke (MI & CVA).
Beastt17 2 years ago
go watch youtube video were are omnivors!!!
19bj98 2 years ago
So all wisdom is found within the frames of YouTube videos in your belief? What about the one being discussed here which is pro-vegan? What about the many other pro-herbivore videos?
If you really want to know, rather than just wanting to be able to assert yourself without ever opening a book on the subject, why not do some actual research instead of presenting a string of empty, baseless assertions? You'll find you're incorrect.
Beastt17 2 years ago
ahh so you talk all smat and stuff to try to convence people that you are not talking crap witch your are!!!
19bj98 2 years ago
Interesting that I can name a multitude of studies and reports that agree with my conclusions; "Framingham Heart Study", "The International Atherosclerotic Project", "Incidence and Prognosis of Unrecognized Myocardial Infarction", "Cholesterol in the Prediction of Atherosclerotic Disease", "Diet; Serum Cholesterol and Death from Coronary Heart Disease", "Nutrition Studies of Vegetarians IV. Dietary Fatty Acids and Serum Cholesterol Levels"... etc.
Ever open even one book on diet?
Beastt17 2 years ago
Can I say just one thing? 19bj98 was ownnnned.
Well, he was owned the minute he opened his mouth, actually.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
we have the stumach of a omnavors being . your studies cant prove that wrong
19bj98 2 years ago
Wrong. Carnivore/omnivore's intestines are smooth and only three times as long as their bodies. An herbivore's intestines are lumpy and 10 to 12 times their body length. Humans intestines are lumpy and 10 to 11 times our body length. A carnivore's/omnivore's stomach capacity is 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract. An herbivore's stomach capacity is Less than 30% of total volume of digestive tract. HUMAN: 21% to 27% of total volume of digestive tract.
These are just a few examples...
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
Well done! :)
Interesting how those who know the information always seem to draw the same conclusions while those who never take the time to learn anything about the topic are almost always on the counter side of the issue.
I guess it's a bit like belief in a flat Earth. It takes a bit of research to find out how wrong that idea is.
Beastt17 2 years ago
Actually, animals that consume animal-flesh tend to have very large stomach capacities. They're gorgers. We have the stomach capacity of a grazing animal. We eat smaller quantities, more frequently.
And animals that consume meat have stomach acid about 20-times stronger than that found in the human stomach. This protects them from the bacteria and microbes (E Coli, Salmonella, botulinum, etc.), which grow so rapidly on meat.
So no, we don't have a carnivore's stomach.
Beastt17 2 years ago
I have to agree, Knitty. And as you said, he set himself up to fail by spouting an opinion unsupported by any research. Have you ever noticed how emotional people... especially men, tend to get when their diet is suggested to be inappropriate?
Research at Stonybrook University, directed by Charles Taber showed that religion and politics were emotional, rather than logical, issues. Just a few minutes of discussion shows that diet is also emotional, not logical, for those devoid of information.
Beastt17 2 years ago
Yes, it seems so. The only reason anyone would search for videos on veganism if they were unwilling to hear the information, would be to troll them because they feel threatened by it. When someone else makes a change, it makes you look inside yourself & makes some people uncomfortable.
Oh& not to mention so many other herbivorous traits that we possess. There is really only one omnivorous trait that we have& that is the position of our eyes. However, in nature, that is still inconsistent! Haha
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
True about the eyes but we're also far more visual than most animals and placing the eyes in front provides us with depth perception -- a very valuable trait for any creature so reliant upon sight.
If an animal isn't a standard prey animal (and humans aren't in most cases), it does little good to place the eyes on the sides. And we're primates, of course, and primates tend to have forward-looking eyes -- even those who are omnivorous.
Great little video, by the way. :)
Beastt17 2 years ago
That's a great point.
And thank you. (:
This was just my first; mostly to get used to vlogging. For some reason, I was nervous about making a video at the time. Just witnessing all the YT drama intimidated me for a while. I'm just about over that now haha. :P
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
See, KnittyGrittyNatch talks all "smat" and stuff too! Perhaps that's because both she and I have actually looked into the issue and we're not just reacting on the assumption that whatever the majority believes is automatically correct.
In fact, if you look to the majority that have actually studied diet, they agree that man isn't structured to consume animal-based foods. It's only those who never look into the matter who compose the majority of society and who disagree based on tradition.
Beastt17 2 years ago
but how then have we allways aet meat
woundent if we wear herbavors allway eat plants
19bj98 2 years ago
Contemporary archeology is now suggesting that meat was a much smaller part of the diet of early humans than was formerly thought. It makes sense that bones might still be found around early human dwellings while seeds, succulents and peels would be long gone.
Man's development toward tool-use provided an option. Normally, the lack of claws and long sharp teeth make meat consumption difficult. But our bodies are structured for plants so as meat consumption rises, so do the implicated diseases.
Beastt17 2 years ago
that does not prove any thing still . i will not be responding to your replys any more for this is went on to long
19bj98 2 years ago
19bj90, - RE: "that does not prove any thing still."
I never said it did. I simply answered your question. But many of the topics covered here provide more than adequate demonstration for the validity and preference of the vegan diet. - RE: "i will not be responding to your replys any more for this is went on to long."
Are you sure it doesn't have more to do with the fact that every time you challenged you ended up finding out you were wrong? We like to call that "cut & run". ;-)
Beastt17 2 years ago
NO!! i just dont want to read your crap any more.this is the sort of pompos attadude
i am better than you attadued i have came to accsped from a vegan
19bj98 2 years ago
19bj98,
So it has nothing to do with the fact that humans really do have the digestive physiology of a mono-gastric herbivore? It has nothing to do with your challenge that we have the stomach of a carnivore which was shown to be wrong?
Wherever did you get the idea that I'm better than you? I'm simply better informed because I sought information instead of tradition.
Beastt17 2 years ago
i still do not bellive that crap and plz do not send me any more replys
19bj98 2 years ago
19bj98, - RE: "i still do not bellive that crap and plz do not send me any more replys "
You don't have to believe it. It goes right on being true while you go right on making yourself ill and driving yourself to the grave by the choices you make. It's certainly your business.
Isn't it interesting how those of certain mentalities believe they should have the right to spew out one last response and deny anyone and everyone the right to respond to their comments? It doesn't work like that.
Beastt17 2 years ago
shut the fuck up you lunitc
19bj98 2 years ago
Ohh great argument.
You're obviously scared. Not to mention, so poorly educated that you can't seem to use Google.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
you as well
19bj98 2 years ago
'I know you are but what am I?'
That's your refute?
Cute. Real cute.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
no wonder i hate you so mutch.
wiht that attidue
19bj98 2 years ago
Aw, darn. You hate me?
Well, I don't hate you. I would have to care first. (:
But continue posting. It's cute when you try to argue.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
19bj98, - RE: "shut the fuck up you lunitc"
This doesn't really deserve a response but I think it's worth pointing out that when you're trying to insult someone, it takes a lot of the sting out of your comment when you can't even spell the insulting words correctly. I don't know... it just sort of turns the whole thing around. I'll accept this as typical of the level of reason you apply to your arguments. If you had an actual argument, you'd present it. This is the best you can do.
Beastt17 2 years ago
just leave me alone
i do not wont to have an argument
19bj98 2 years ago
Aww, poor baby. I guess you shouldn't post on vegan channels then, eh? How about when you come across a vegan video, you keep your mouth shut if you're not willing to argue?
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
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Beastt17 2 years ago
19bj98,
- RE: "just leave me alone i do not wont to have an argument"
Did it not occur to you that if you walked into a discussion spouting insults and telling people they're wrong when you apparently have nothing upon which to base such an assertion, that you're doing everything you can to get yourself into an argument?
Beastt17 2 years ago
I'm sorry if I come across as an ass but here goes. I do not understand vegans at all. Animal testing is the reason why the human race is where its at. Polio is gone, cancer treatments are getting better, the list goes on, how can you blame your food choice on such a noble cause? I do not support animal cruelty, but I do understand some things need to be done in order to advance medical sciences. I do hunt as its something I was born into, the animals do not suffer. You people confuse me.
DaShnipa 2 years ago
And we are often confused by those with your viewpoints. You don't come across as an ass (at least, not in my opinion), but you do come across as unfamiliar with some of the pertinent facts.
There is no longer any value to animal testing. The information obtained through such research can now be obtained through in vitro and computer modeling methods.
If someone shot your mother and she died quickly, would you not find anything wrong in that because she "didn't suffer"?
Humans are animals.
Beastt17 2 years ago 3
I can honestly say that if my mother were to be shot I would be comforted by the fact that she died quickly. Now as for the person/persons that did the shooting, I personally would see to it that they died a far more painful death.
As for your fish comment above, that's a pretty extreme case. Fish here in Canada are constantly monitored to ensure the safety of the fish population, as well as the human population that consume the fish. I very highly doubt that the toxins are that high in them.
DaShnipa 2 years ago
RE: "Now as for the person/persons that did the shooting, I personally would see to it that they died a far more painful death."
Well, there you have it. Obviously, you feel they would have done something very wrong and should be punished. So you can see that the taking of innocent life is wrong.
Beastt17 2 years ago
RE: "I very highly doubt that the toxins are that high in them. "
This sounds like a comment of faith. Do you actually know the levels?
Fish with PCB levels greater than 5ppm cannot legally be sold for food. If over 50ppm, they must be specially processed prior to disposal.
What you may not realize is that PCBs build up over time. The more fish you eat, the higher the toxins in your body. Orcas eat fish and often show levels of 1100ppm. The body stores, rather than purges them.
Beastt17 2 years ago
I don't eat orcas lol. Walleye, pike, and stream fish (trout + salmon) are the ones most often consumed here. The salmon come from lake ontario and are questionable at best, so I don't eat them. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where your fish come from and how "edible" they actually are. More pesticides and chemicals are sprayed on plants than fish. I'd like to see where your getting your numbers from because I don't believe it one bit.
DaShnipa 2 years ago
Then pick up a copy of "Diet for a New America" for starters. The book contains a very comprehensive list noting the sources for just about every number and claim presented.
As for eating orcas, I'm afraid you missed the point. The levels of toxins found in the orcas are very high because they build up in their fatty tissues, just as happens every time you eat a fish. Eat ten fish and you'll have the toxins of 10 fish in your fatty tissues.
The toxins bind with fatty tissues, not with water.
Beastt17 2 years ago
Water soluble pesticides would quickly wash off the plants and dissolve in ground water. So they are made to be fat soluble instead. In water they remain in tiny droplets, much like oil. When they contact a fish which has fatty tissues, they dissolve into the fishes tissues and remain there...
...until you come along and eat the fish. Then they become dissolved in YOUR tissues. Each time you eat a fish, the level of toxins dissolved in your tissues increases. So follow the cycle (cont).
Beastt17 2 years ago
Suppose a cow eats 20-pounds of grain. The grain contains a tiny amount of fat-soluble toxins. The next day the cow eats another 20-pounds of grain. Each day the level of toxins rise in the cow's tissues. After months and months of increasing the levels daily, you come along and eat the cow. Each step up in the food chain increases the toxin levels by a factor of ten.
So do you get more toxic residues eating the grain, or by eating the cow's accumulation of toxins? The numbers don't lie.
Beastt17 2 years ago
Now back to the fish. Toxins enter the water. Tiny insects eat the toxins each day, and they build up in the insect's body. Eventually a tiny fish eats the insect and all of those toxins become dissolved in the fishes fatty tissues. Each day the fish eats more insects and more toxins build up in it's fatty tissues, until...
... a larger fish comes along and eats the smaller fish and takes on it's accumulation - day after day. The process repeats until you end up with ALL of the toxins.
Beastt17 2 years ago
what about the amount of pesticides and chemical fertilizers dumped on plants. Your eating the same toxins, in fact your eating them in a far purer state than what they would be if the cow had eaten them in the example you had just given. Wash the veggies all u want, when they bring in the water, they bring in the toxins. Your point of toxins is completely bogus.
DaShnipa 2 years ago
The state of the toxins changes very little. I've already addressed this but... they're made to be very stable so that they don't break down in strong sunlight.
And the difference in the amounts is that we consume only the slight residues left on the plants. You consume the accumulation of residues built up in the fatty tissues all the way up the food chain with a 10-fold increase at each level. So you consume MANY TIMES more toxic residues that someone who abstains from animal-based foods.
Beastt17 2 years ago
If such were the case I'd be dead. There's no way any person can sustain that amount of toxic poisoning and continue to function normally. You know that as well as I do. On a side note most animals are butchered to leave some fat, but remove as much as possible, so Im not chomping down on pure fat. Oh and just so you know you can buy "organic" meats meaning the food the animals ate contains no chemicals beyond what is already in the soil.
DaShnipa 2 years ago
RE: "If such were the case I'd be dead."
It is the case and you're not dead. Why would you think tossing out blanket, unsupported assertions would offer anything compelling for your argument?
RE: "There's no way any person can sustain that amount of toxic poisoning and continue to function normally."
What amount?
People aren't functioning normally. Over 500,000 cancer deaths a year? Over 750,000 deaths due to heart attack. Is that "normal"? It is if you eat the U.S. diet.
But NORMAL?
Beastt17 2 years ago
Now, I know you don't eat a whole cow. The wheat-to-beef conversion factor is 16:1. That means it takes 16-pounds of wheat to produce 1-pound of beef. So for every pound of beef you consume, you're ingesting the toxins found on 16-pounds of wheat.
Have you ever consumed a 16oz steak? Have you ever sat down and consumed 16-pounds of bread? The level of toxins in the beef are 16-times that found in the wheat fed to the cow. An grain fed to livestock is more likely to be cleaned carelessly.
Beastt17 2 years ago
Oh and on your note of a "grain fed stock is likely to be fed carelessly." You would be incorrect. I worked on a dairy farm, that also had jerseys for meat. Those animals were cleaned DAILY, they drank filtered water, and ate fodder that WE grew. Those cows were probably cleaner than I was at the end of the day.
DaShnipa 2 years ago
You're just one example. Most large feedlots don't produce or process the feed they provide to the cattle.
Beastt17 2 years ago
Then that's there own damn fault. The cows that end up on my plate live very healthy lives, I buy a cow to stick in the freezer every year, and I know exactly where it lives, and how it lives. I do not buy meat from grocery stores. All of my meat products come from local farmers, and I butcher the meat myself. (animal is obviously dead when I get it) All of my friends and family do the same.
DaShnipa 2 years ago
So the meat you consume likely contains less pesticide residues than average, but still far more than do fruits and vegetables.
Clearly you don't like the reality so much that you'll try to hand-wave it with unsupported statements. But I do, can and have supported my statements and I'm sending you a personal message with links you should read. They back up what I've been telling you.
Your diet is your business. I'm simply informing you. Your risk of heart attack is still over 50%.
Beastt17 2 years ago
This supposed hand waving is to get your attention. We don't all eat the same food, and thus DO NOT fall into this realm of the U.S. diet you mentioned below. Am I taking in more toxins? Probably, is it going to kill me? no. Is it going to shorten my life span? no. All of the references you have provided me are biased towards the vegan/vegetarian lifestyle and provide statistics for such a small portion of a population they cannot be taken seriously.
DaShnipa 2 years ago
There have been dozens of studies, many involving tens of thousands of test subjects and what they show is that you have answered your own questions, incorrectly.
Are the toxins going to kill you? Most likely, yes.
Are they going to shorten your life? Isn't that what happens when they kill you?
Again; heart attack is the #1 killer (about 38% of all deaths annually, in the U.S.), and heart attacks are linked directly to consumption of meat. Strokes & Heart attack have the same cause.
Beastt17 2 years ago
that is still not a reason
19bj98 2 years ago
Again, cancer rates in those who abstain from eating meat are only 40% of that seen in those who do eat meat. Vegetarians display only 25% of the heart attack rate and vegans show less than 7% of the heart attack rate.
Statistically, you have about a 50/50 chance of dying from a heart attack. And heart attacks are NOT a natural form of death. They're a premature death totaling over 750,000 annually in the U.S. alone. If you're over 16-years of age, you already have atherosclerotic plaques.
Beastt17 2 years ago
Do you have me blocked in some manner? I've attempted to send you links to verify the information you keep claiming isn't true and my messages aren't going through.
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Google Books "Diet for a New America"
"Meat contains approximately 14 times more pesticides than do plant foods; diary products 5½ times more. Thus, by eating foods of animal origin, one ingests greatly concentrated amounts of hazardous chemicals."
I have many more links but YouTube stops them.
Beastt17 2 years ago
Nope I don't have you blocked lol. I actually enjoy hopping onto youtube, and seeing what kind of stuff you've dug up for me to read.
DaShnipa 2 years ago
Okay, I must not have altered the URLs sufficiently to get them past YouTube's filter. I guess I'll have to strip them out completely and you'll either have to do searches on just the text I provide from the sites, or provide another means by which I can provide the links to you.
Beastt17 2 years ago
Most toxins and pesticides are purposely designed to be fat soluble so that they don't wash off in rain. They're also highly stable so that they don't decay in strong sunlight.
Eighty-nine percent of the toxic residues ingested through the human diet come from built-up fat-soluble chemicals in meat, poultry, fish and dairy. Only 11% come from fruits, vegetables, legumes, etc.
Rates of heart attack, cancer, diabetes, osteoporosis, etc. are far lower in those with vegan/vegetarian diets.
Beastt17 2 years ago
vegans are worse than islamofascists
semiliteratedgod 2 years ago
Checking your page I'm guessing your being sarcastic :P
priory1 2 years ago
OK, "but fish is very bad for you because you can get mercury poisoning" Its not the fish that's bad for you it is the water. Dose that mean if you are eating a plant that has been contaminated I can tell you that that plant is bad for you? As for fishing there is fish hatcheries so we don't over fish but if we under fish we might have a over population problem, with over population of one species that species might whip out another. And what happens when you find that plant have feelings eh?
TheGreenGuySURVIVAL 2 years ago
I'm a meat-consumer, but can I has Mr. Green for dinner? LOL!
If all edible life has feelings (except fruits which carry a seed inside), then it's natural to consume humans too, no?
Too bad people ignored the cannibalism in older times.
27362489723683524783 2 years ago 2
Unfortunately I am not ready to die and/or be eaten. You should just become a mortician, there is no short supply of people there. Or you could go for the less extreme and buy some tasty human flavored tofu!
TheGreenGuySURVIVAL 2 years ago
It might be possible for a old and new type of belief surfaces up cannibalism!, ya know they say the easiest way to make money is to start a cult! (In the words of Lafayette Ronald Hubbard creator of Scientology) and its now or never for you. And hey, you can start out as a group of vegans and go from there. Or is that what Peta is planing?!?! (Que the maniacal music.)
TheGreenGuySURVIVAL 2 years ago
Rationalize it all you want. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
GypsyWytch13 2 years ago 2
Rationalization is what helps us sleep at night like a baby... a baby in its crib... with spam. (Go bacon!)
TheGreenGuySURVIVAL 2 years ago
You know humans were never there to regulate other species millions of years ago and the world didn't end, if anything human attempts to regulate the enviroment usually make it worse like intoducing predators to control pests or bringing foriegn species into new enviroments.
Vegans don't eat fish because their animals is the point shes trying to make not that you can get poisened by them.
priory1 2 years ago 2
The problem is that humans have tampered with the environment so much that if we stop trying to regulate it, I and allot of other people do not know what would happen, be it good or bad. And I know that vegans don't eat fish because they are animals, but the point I was making is the fact that she wrongly stated that fish were bad for you, which is not true (Not including the moral standpoint). I just didn't want people to think that something they eat on a regular basis if bad for them. = )
TheGreenGuySURVIVAL 2 years ago
Also I would like to state that I'm not against not eating meat I would love to see a perfect world someday, but as of now I and many other people are meat lovers and I don't think Its the way the world works, was working, and will work for quite a long time if ever. But frankly I hope I'm wrong, and at the same time I hope I'm right about it because of my meat loving personality. Kudos to the people that are trying to bring a evolutionary change to our diet and the way we think about animals.
TheGreenGuySURVIVAL 2 years ago
Fair enough we may have to regulate some species that we introduced (in a non harmful way), however the idea that we if we don't fish enough some castastrophe might occur is wrong, if anything we need to stop fishing now to save the oceans
priory1 2 years ago 2
That was my main point but I did mention mercury poisoning because many people go vegetarian 'except for fish.' They're not actually vegetarians of course, but their reasoning for eating fish is usually 'it's good for you.'
I think it's funny how people are so worried about getting their essential fatty acids (which are in walnuts, avocado, olives, etc) but still eat crap with saturated and trans fat. :P
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago
That is sorta strange that people go vegetarian except for fish, that sorta ruins the whole essence of being a vegetarian. Its understandable that you had to say s