Dylan Avery is a 100% certified idiot! Anyone who watches the History Channel's "The 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction" and still believes Dylan Avery is also an idiot.
Makers of these kind of videos hide their identities because they can't prove these lies. I will be the first to help you leave this great country that you obviously hate. You have no respect for what has been given to you for free of charge, that is to be an American! Piss will always soak your graves
America is great because everyone wants to come here. Either you love us or just plain jealous. The economy is down right now but it's not the first time. It will eventually get better. Thats why America is great. Because we face any adversity(almost).
Why because no other country has liberated the millions of people world wide? Because of the U.S. there are less dictators in the world. I love my country period. If it ever becomes Nazi Germany than that is the day I leave.
At first it was reported they were at full throttle when they hit, then somebody asked and these jets CANNOT fly at nearly top speed at that altitude, check it for yourself.
These planes are dented by birds flying much faster at higher altitude, these planes dont lose a single piece entering a building? not even the tail section that seems to just fall off every once and a while? cmonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
2) Bombs disguised as equipment stored in secure "computer" rooms exactly where the planes hit-Chris Bollyn
3) Media instructed to create as much footage as possible to instill greater public fear. They are given some basic info such as trajectories and aircraft size.
4) Slow demolition of all three bldgs throughout the day...making the major demolitions (collapses) less obvious
So we cant believe this even though the transponder indicated on radar the planes direction, it was filmed from multiple angles and seen by thousands, and the landing gear cut a woman in half? The luggage was spread all over manhattan, yet we cant believe this. You boys should be ashamed, and beaten with a lenght of hose. You shame your parents.
Ive never heard this before, what you have just written. Where did you hear this that it was MIKE HEZERKANNI who shot the video of plane hitting ?
I will admit this footage appears very peculiar and suspicious to me for this reason, its as if the Plane just 'cuts' right through that bldg with NO resistance whatsoever, we're talking about a Lightweight Aluminum Plane going through very THICK dense Concrete and Steel, its like the plane just 'dissapears' into the Bldg
there is a vid here on youtube, where someone calls hezerkanni (Cali diamond dealer) and he says he cant talk about the vid at all, only that he shot it and gave it to cnn...
I mean cmon, the tail section doesnt even break loose, it too goes through the bldg with no resistance, nothing breaks off this plane as it slices through a bldg.. cmon
Are you aware of an independent 911 research guy named ACE BAKER ? He is offering a DVD soon that documents precisely how and why he thinks the Plane videos of the WTC were totally faked and are phony
His position is that there were NO planes used at all on 911 , that it was just one huge hoax
I am starting to think this is the reality of the situation, that NO planes were used at all, since we Know No Plane hit Pentagon, probably WTC video is fake too
I think both of you are forgetting how fast those planes were going. A blade of grass can go in one side of a car and outside the other during a hurricane, and jet airliners can go a lot faster than the winds of a hurricane. A massive plane going hundreds of miles an hour is going to cut through a building like crap through a goose.
I'm really glad people are waking up but, 9-11 Bush, Avery, etc..., aren't the problem. They're just tools of the problem. A long time ago a bunch of rich white guys printed up a bunch of paper and told us it had extraordinary value. That's the problem. If you can understand that war, poverty, greed, and so many other evils of the world are reliant on currency, only then can you start to truly live. Be Peacefull. Be Joyfull. That's the best weapon we have against them. I love you all.
DYLAN AVERY IS EMPLOYED BY G. BUSH! Why? Because Avery with his dubious film making skills, inability to debate and merely average intelligence is ideal to make the right wing Bush administration look like the good guys. Everytime he voices his insane conspiracy theories, a Republican somewhere picks up ten votes. Also D. Avery, aided by the Bush administration, has created this 9/11 truth bullshit to divert the American people from realising the more important issues like poverty or inequality.
I've notice this comment on other vids as well. Word for word. Doing a lot of cut and paste work are ya. What is your agenda, and who do you work for? lol
I don't work for anyone. I think Loose Change brings up very good questions. As of today I have not seen any evidence that supports claims that this was an outside job. Is the guy who posted this saying Dylan Avery claims no planes struck the towers? If so that is not true. This video made no sense. Lmao bullshit.
What is actually the point, regardless of what is true or false -because the whole truth will never be uncovered- is that Bush is just messing up everything America claims to stand for: Freedom, democracy, equality,... for money and power. A real patriot should scream his heart out. Patriotism isn't folowing the leaders, it's fighting in any way for the values of your country. I believe that people like Dylan Avery are patriots. Although you disagree, respect them. That's freedom of speech!
Oh come on! First of all, with all the information he's digged up about this, it could've been a simple mistake. Besides, who in the fuck cares about one single lie from Dylan Avery considering all the truths he's uncovered? Besides, it seems to me as though you're calling Dylan Avery a hypocrite, still, I strongly doubt that you've never lied yourself which would indicate that you're a hypocrite as well. You're not better than him if that's what you think...
yes I am. I'm better than you, Jesus, and Avery.Loose Change was sooo good it had to be edited 3 times! Piss on this turd already. He's a little bitch, and if I ever see him, I gonna tell him that he's a lil bitch.
Dylan Avery is a Jew. All the media are owned by Jews. The truth movements are run by Jews. They take control of the truthing. Jewish Silverstein, the owner of The White House Theatre, was the target and the perpetrator on 9/11.
George Bush is a Jew. Only Jews have reasons to lie about 9/11.
The Pentagon had its groundbreaking ceremony on 9/11-1941. Exactly 60 years later Silverstein demolished his buildings. 9/11 was probably planned before the WTCs were built.
If you watch his documentary then you will notice that he says that a "MALE" , "Jeweler" shot this video. He even calls him on the phone to get an answer as to where he shot the video from, and yet he can't answer. Yes the video is fake, you just agreed with everything we believe in. Thank you, get your facts straight and get all the information before you put your foot in your mouth.
Its called holographic projection. The US military has the technology that can display a 3D image of an individual or object and give it an appearance of actual being in that spot while attributing to characteristics of wind, sunlight, etc etc.
they closed the towers over the weekend twice before 911 no power, with little-Bushie in charge. They used paid mercenaries with idealogical and religious obsessions to set the charges in the elevator shafts and elsewhere.
"no derbis found from materials"
Demo's don't usually use Thermite that much. But here they used it bc it was fast, strong, and quiet. & left no debris
Demo's don't usually use Thermite that much. But here they used it bc it was fast, strong, and quiet. & left no debris
JUST POOLS OF MOLTEN METAL, FOR MONTHS N MONTHS IN THE LOWER LAVELS OF WTC 1,2 & 7. AND TRACES OF SULPHER EVERYWHERE. AND EVEN A FEW PICTURES OF BEAMS CUT BY THERMATE CHARGES AT GROUND ZERO.
"fire fueled by thousands of gallons of jet fuel."
dude the fuel was all burned up almost instantly in a big fireball. No open fire of sheet rock and office materials can get to 2300F either.
the Nova documentary was debunked. Only one truss might of gottn hot enough to bend, so what. What explains the rest of the building? Did it melt too? And the insulation being stripped off is total bullshit
Objects at equilibrium (the condition in which all forces balance) will not accelerate. According to Newton, an object will only accelerate if there is a net or unbalanced force acting upon it. The presence of an unbalanced force will accelerate an object - changing either its speed, its direction, or both it's speed and direction.
There was no resistance givin on each floor.
To physically "SMASH" each of the 80+ floors, it would take twice as long to fall. More like 20-30 sec at least.
the fires in the towers weren't hot enough ..for long enough ..or extensive enough, to allow "both" to fall the same way at nearly freefall speed.
the towers accelerated downward. If they had more time they would have sped up to trminal velocity of 110 mph. they fell in 15 seconds. Do the math
The first law - sometimes referred to as the law of inertia - states that if the forces acting upon an object are balanced, then the acceleration of that object will be 0 m/s/s.
prove it. satelitte photos of the heat emenating from all 3 sites for months is proof of Thermite use.
"No steel building. ..., Dogwood Elementary School"
those aren't high rises made from heavy steel columns. The point is, a huge skyscraper like the twin towers for example, is made from 4 inch thick high grade steel beams designed to hold A LOT OF WEIGHT. None of your examples are the same type of building we're supposed to be talking about.
thermate melts steel. wtc 7 was full of it just like wtc 1 and 2 were. they let some of it loose in wtc7 after towers 1 & 2 were demolished, to "simulate" damage caused from the towers falling, therby making the pools of fire in the basement of wtc7 a ploy to get the building evacuated so they could "urban renewal" it too! wtc 3-6 were much more heavily damaged and remained standing. No steel building has ever fallen from a fire, an open fire, or even a pool of Thermate in the basement!
Billion dollar kickback for Bushys from Silverstein's urban renewal plan for NYC
multi Billion dollar kickback to Cheney and Haliburton, Exxon, Chevron, M.I.Complex etc etc for oil in war based on lies!
Create fearful Americans who allow their rights to be trampled in the name of security to the benifit of a cabol of New World Order types (probably religious, probably idealogically fascist) bent on culling world populations for da future
you just helped this conspiracy theorist to get another piece of the puzzle :-) You made me realize that Thermate was used around the inside of wtc7 to start vigorous fires OF MOLTEN STEEL, as an excuse to tell the public, "of the immenent collapse". BUT in reality the structure was set to go anyway(Could have been sooner than planned or later, or right on time. Ask the BBC, they reported it past-tense 25 minutes early!) with Thermite charges along with Wtc 1 & 2.
wow that is one sustained propaganda campaign by rolling. If you have the patience to sift through the sheer volume of propaganda you will see the lies. But as Earl Warren said, "The American people don't read"
The towers fell at free-fall speed. That would mean that the floors gave NO resistance. You can clearly see the demolition "squibs." The heavy smoke was indicitive of an oxygen deprived fire. An airforce plane flew into the Empire State building in the 50s or 40s. Not much happened. Numerous steel framed buildings have burnt to the ground and the steel frame was left standing; strong enough to hold a crane. The Twin Towers were built to withstand a plane crash because of ESB incident.
Demolition experts are baffled by how it fell so fast. It was a combo of implosions and explosions. Steel beams 20 feet and longer were wedged into the sides of the surrounding buildings. They got there from the blast of energy from a nuclear weapon. Similar technology was used at Oklahoma city. Fire does not have the force to blow heavy steel beams hundreds of feet and wedge them into hardened concrete. No solid items were found by rescue workers and clean up crew.
Everything and everyone was desintigrated. They found bone fragments no bigger than 7 cm on the tops of surrounding buildings. There were a series of explosions that are verified by numerous surviving eyewitnesses in the basements of both towers. There is seismic evidence of the entire event. When you hear the home videos you can hear major explosions across New York harbor in NJ by witnesses.
Have you heard about WTC building 7? It fell also at freefall speed and was hit by no plane.
Larry Silverstein owned WTC 7 abd admitted on camera that "the decision was made to pull it." Silverstein bought the WTC complex for 15million and in the insurance contract, terrorist acts are covered. He owned both twin towers, and because of the 2 plane theory, he argued in court that it was 2 seperate acts, and was awarded a total of 7 BILLION dollars total. What a "smart" investmebt, which he made not 3 months before 9-11-01.
Cheney wrote that the US needed a new pearl harbor event ...
to get the people behind a cause. If you watch the YT video of the court room testimony of Lawyer William Schaap you will learn that the CIA has infiltrated the media. They go to journalism school and get a job and coordinate a secret agenda. Many people reading and reporting the news are on a CIA paylist. That is why, on a national level, they can be so heartless and unemotional. Not All, or Most, but many, and that is a fact. It was a controlled demolition with TV trickery.
Because Gravity still works the same way, CD or NO CD. If it was a CD, where are there no left over remnants of 1) det cord 2) shock tube 3) copper flashing 4) caps? Why does not not look like these REAL CD's? watch?v=eRZPPdf_sm0&feature=related watch?v=ZlGmnKvOhlg&feature=related watch?v=eUIdf4UJ3_4&feature=related Where the flash/bangs are unmistakeable for miles around?
The building to be known as the most heavily secured or defended building in the world, is actually Fort Knox! The fact is you or I have no Idea what defenses the Pentagon has.You must say that it is the most heavily defended building in order to promote your conspiracy theory, even though truthfully and factually, you have no idea what defenses it has!...So stop spreading myths or lies!
The Pentagon has no type of defense systems that would be able to prevent something from hitting it, period, bottom line is it's still just an office bldg. It has guards, security obviously, and plenty of cameras, but can't shoot anything. And whats with your kirk hammett video? it's as fake as loose change
I agree with you! The Pentagon does not have some sort of automated missile defense system. Kirk Hammet?..lol..It is supposed to be fake..Its hilarious..and yes I do Like Metallica. There are some hilarious ones of Petrucci from Dream Theater on YT also. if you know who that is?
You keep saying that the pentagon is "the most heavily defended building in the world" Could you please point me in the direction of where you get those facts from? And please don't say Alex Jones or Loose Change.
Who said the Pentagon only had one camera? It actually has over 80, but let me guess, you are upset that the gov't hasn't released every video of a plane full of Americans crashing to their deaths into a bldg for your amusement, yes damn them, why can't we all watch them die
The theorem of cognitive dissonance holds that the mind automatically and involuntarily rejects information not in line with previously held beliefs. The "Trusted media and government sources" have supplanted the lie. Now you defend your trusted authorities as the truth rather than seeking truth as the authority.
This type of individual is what I would call a sycophant to authority.
Ha, I don't need the Gov't, or media to tell me my thoughts thank you very much.
I can see clearly with my own two eyes, that a plane crashed into the bldgs
That the bldgs did not fall from a controlled demolition
That there was plane debris and wreckage at both pentagon and Shanksville
That bldg 7 was on fire all day, that all day they were predicting that it was unsafe and likely to fall, and that no one was actually surprised when it did
Haha. Yeah man. The Pentagon and the rest of the United States is apparently not defended at all. NORAD is just some place people that play video games and it's basically a useless tax grab.
It's not about amusement and don't try and play that victim card. It's fucking pathetic. It's a dishonor to the victims planes or no planes to not get the right story.
I guess you have never seen the videos from NYC. At least not more than once. You are too good for that.
Right, so I ask you where you got your information that the pentagon was "the most heavily guarded bldg in the world" and you turn around with a sarcastic answer like,"the pentagon is apparently not defended at all" What kind of logic is that??? Is that how you answer questions? by not answering them and making dumb sarcastic remarks?
And you want to see videos for YOU, not for the victims. The victims have been identified, plane debris everywhere, who needs to watch it? The truth is there
80 cameras where did you get this info?and if so, 80 cameras located and pointed where? at the side of the building with no entrance? or do they point them where they should be pointed such as entries at the gates, security shack,entrances into the pentagon etc?
Rose... she should be questioned under aoth, in the CNN DVD, she claims to find a piece of paper, after the collaps, that happened to be a resume of a freind of hers applying at WTC on that day. Then she handeled the powder on the ground. She says "I felt like I could step on top of the towers" before they fall. And now, where is she?
Gang? Did you notice that Avery is shown to be a hypocrite in this video? No. You didn't spend a second thought about it. You stopped thinking about it and jumped into group thought. It's warm and fuzzy and people like you group thought land. BIG LIES. BIG LIAR. HE SAW IT A MILLION TIMES. YOU CAN TRUST HIM...HE'LL TELL YA . die fucktard
chill bitch. you ever thought that 9/11 was maybe IHOP + LIHOP + CGI implanted images? you stupid fucks are going to quarrel over the differences, while you should persue common interest and that is to spread the 9/11 truth.
obviously, you're either not going to do that and you're gonna let your personal differences interfere, or you are a member of a disinformation gang. the bottom line is that 9/11 truthers splitting and fighting aint gonna help noone.
i see that the future army of cheney, which will "liberate" iran in the near future, is growing bigger and bigger. jayep, guntherznadz, maddox,
that fucking bufoon from "screwloosechange". boy, it will be fantastic seeing you guys prancing around with full military equipment all around iran. i hope i'll be there to film it. after all, you wanted it... you'll get it. so go ahead and trust dick cheney. if you're stupid enough to believe a man like him... you deserve whetever he brings your way.
The second aircraft strike was filmed by Michael Hezarkhani from a ferry docking at Battery Park near Castle Clinton. I think Arce just got a still shot of it.
Precisely. Michael Hezarkhani, the same guy who was exposed by Jeff Hill pumpitout, and claims to have "sold his vid to CNN" as well as that "I can't even say where I shot it from". It's a composite: shot from Battery Park + fake addition. (this has been proven). Interesting that all the key witnesses were high executives in corporate media.
Jeff Hill has never proven anything. He's a sociopath. He would be arrested if he tried the shit he does from this side of the border. He doesn't even ask the right questions of the right people. JREF HAS debunked Jeff's BS about the camera angle from Battery Park. They got the elevation exactly.
THIS video is the only one that has been PROVEN to have been manipulated by anyone and it was obviously manipulated by twoofers trying to fake evidence of CD.
Oh really? Sociopath? Official plane speed = rubbish, and you don't need to abide by Jeff Hill's phone calls. A simple computation of avg speed shows it was only f'ing bleeps in a radar. But if you're a sargeant, maybe you're not allowed to think for yourself. 1 million Iraqis incl. children, all for a fucking lie. Who's the sociopath here. Does JREF then say 11-S was as the official version says? Wow, so much for a "scientific skeptic".
The planes were real. The turd that Jeff talked to does not design aircraft. He designs soft ware and was long retired when the planes were hijacked. None of the office people he spoke to were pilots or engineers. Just like Bollyn talked to someone who didn't make Rolls Royce engines to determine whether or not they found the right engine at the pentagon.
The planes were not real. The phone calls Jeff Hill made to Boeing were real, and match data Major Doug Rokke (PhD in Physics) gives (although he doesn't mention the no planes issue). The Hezarkhani vid is a complete fake. Joe Keith was not an aeronautical engineer, but someone else from Boeing gave similar data. Anyway, a simple computation shows that the official trajectory was a fake, as the avg speed is > max cruise speed.
Jeff never spoke to an actual aeronautical engineer who really knew the 757. So what if they were doing max cruising speed? Get it straight and stop acting a fool. Max cruising speed is the speed not to be exceded for safety reasons. 100 MPH is not the top speed of which a Mercedes is capable, either. You fly a Boeing too long above that "max cruise speed," and the wings will break eventually. Do you really think that any of the hijackers gave a rat's ass?
"stop acting a fool" "Do you really think that any of the hijackers gave a rat's ass?" Do you think a guy who's never in his life been even capable of flying a Cessna will be capable of hitting a narrow tower?!?! Without ground control?!?! Who's the one acting like a fool? And you still believe, or make believe, the official story.
"a narrow tower" are you kidding me, did you ever visit them before they fell? Or have you only seen them on video? They were 1 ACRE PER FLOOR, do you have any idea how wide that is? they were wider then the entire wing span of the planes? Have you been on planes that big before? Any idea how big that is? They may appear narrow from a distance, or looking at them up high, but these bldgs were far from narrow, and would be very easy to hit
Narrow, from the point of view of a plane trying to hit from afar. Turbulences, impossibility of speed, no ground control at all, absolute beginners piloting the plane -even a condecorated pilot couldn't do it!! Not to mention that Atta was part of an exchange between the German secret service and the Mossad, and phoned his father on 9/12. Ain't that suspicious? Ah well
Ha, so you are suspicious of everything and everybody, think that thousands of people are lying to you in a cover up, but you believe a terrorists father that says he spoke to his son on 9/12. Thats really warped. Gee, I wonder why he's never been heard from in the 7 yrs since 9/12, only the day after, just plain crazy
HAARETZ: 4 hours before the 'attacks', Ogido (Israeli company) WTC employees received warnings not to go to WTC that day. SF CHRONICLE: Willie Brown received forewarning not to go to NY on 9/10; Salman Rushdie said to BBC he'd received forewarnings too. Marvin Bush was head of SecuraCom, which had a sec contract with WTC THAT EXPIRED ON THE VERY 9/11. All this on respectable media. (BTW, the Mossad killed Atta, and 7 of the 19 'hijackers' are alive & kicking)
You have said so many things that have been proven wrong already, if you want to actually have a convo about this then email me and we can go from there, other than that here is the sillyness of what you spread. Alex Jones started the whole "the contract expired on 9/11" BS story. Well, not really BS because it did actually expire, but do you know why? Because it is a security company and the bldgs were gone. THERE WERE NO BUILDINGS LEFT to secure, thats why the last day of the contract was 9/11
I'll give you the last one (contract), but FFS, don't come around AT THIS STAGE saying "IT'S BEEN PROVEN THAT A BEARDED DEVIL IN CIA PAYROLL FROM A CAVE THAT DOESN'T EXIST DID 9/11" cuz it's pure BS. So much stuff has been released in what you'd call respectable media, that it's undeniable.
Sorry, I just can't take you seriously when you still say things like BL was on CIA payroll, and Marvin Bush was head of security on 9-11, and that securecom's contract ended on 9-11, thats just old stupid lies started by Alex Jones, the biggest liar of them all. EVERY company that had any kind of contract with WTC had their contracts end on 9-11 dumbass cause there were no more towers. It wasn't a contract that was pre-determined to end that day, it ended because the whole complex was destroyed
Who created Al Qaeda? CIA + ISI. Who sent Atta $100K the days prior to 9/11? ISI. Who has no common sense? Whoever believes that a plane blowing no friendly signal could have avoided the automatic missile defence system; who thinks Patriot Act has nothing to do with 9/11; who believes everything FAUXNoise says without questioning, and who thinks sthg is debunked simply b/c sb says so. Popular Mechanics = my toilet paper; that's no science and no better than for poop cleaning
Conspiracy theorist such as Loose Change say that Marcel Bernard said this about Hanjour- "he was very quiet, average, or below average piloting skills"
Here is what else Bernard said in the same interview that Loose Change does not show.. Marcel Bernard- "There's no doubt in my mind that once (Flight 77) got going, he could have pointed that plane at a building and hit it."...Wake up dude! Dylan Avery is either ignorant as hell or just a liar!
No flight can enter the Pentagon without emitting a friendly signal, otherwise an automatic missile defence system would fry it. Plus, how come can a plane "vapourise" and at the same time Pentagon 'MEs' identify the DNA of their victims? Rubbish. You can believe in the tooth fairy if you like. BTW, how come the "plane" hit the only side of the Pentagon that was under construction, way far from Rumsfeld? Never mind, you'll still believe in "the bogeyman from the cave"
The funniest thing is that under interests you actually wrote "investigative journalism" hahaha, too funny, you've been making me laugh all week long ever since I saw your first post. Quoting Alex Jones, and the Loose Change guys, who have been proven wrong, and have even admitted their own mistakes in some cases, and yet you still quote those mistakes, really spells out how "investigative" you are in your reseach. If you actually are serious, there are legit answers to most of your questions
You know what makes me laugh all week? That ye guys have no fucking idea of the history of your own country and how enticing false-flag operations are to your leaders. It's your problem though.
Jupiter The aircraft in the video is going well over 300 mph in order to go vertical. A 757 or 767 is fully capable of flying 500 mph at 1000 feet or even 100 ft, especially if it is in a descent.
FAA regulations prohibit an aircraft(unless authorized) from flying over 250 Knots (288mph) below 10,000ft, they also prohibit aircraft from flying over 200knots (230 mph) below 2500 feet within 4 miles of a primary airport.This is why you never see aircraft flying 300 or more mph!
There is no automatic defense system! The risk are to high with thousands of commercial and private aircraft taking of from RR airport just 2 miles away!All aircraft are not equipped with the same transponders and some transponders such as Mode-S allow manual input of the numbers which can be entered wrong. As of April 2008 gliders still are not required by FAA rules to have a transponder at all!What if a transponder fails? I guess these aircraft just get blown out of the sky, huh!
I guess the Pentagon fucks are so incompetent as to leave the building unprotected then. 2.3 trillion $ went down a bottomless hole on the eve of 9/11. BTW, Bush only appeared before the Commission with Cheney and no-one swore anything, just in case. And there are still people who believe evr. he says.
Well it was the first time in HISTORY (remember saying we don't know history?) that ANY president has gone before a commission. Not pearl harbour, JFK death, there is NO precident for a president to answer to a commission. So Bush, actually breaks with that so that he can try to be somewhat helpfull to the commission (I won't be naive to say that he didn't want to cover up some of his own mistakes) but REALLY, he didn't have to speak to them at all, and did, and you still complain its not enough
Great. So tell me what was the point when there is zero record of it? Might as well have not happened. Did Bush go to a comission? Did he? How do you know? Because the media tells you so?
Atta enrolled for 300HRs of flight training at at Huffman Aviation.Also Enrolled at Jones aviation.Received high scores on his pilot,instrument and commercial test and had all 3.Trained in 727 simulators. Bought training videos for 767,757,rented aircraft to practice in. It requires 250 flight hours including time flying under certain conditions and performing certain kinds of maneuvers to get a commercial license. The pilot must demonstrate increasing levels of skill and experience.
I'm suspicious of a few media crooks and military industrial CEOs, that's it. But deep inside I know that "a bearded (ex-?)CIA agent, from a non-existant cave in Tora Bora, did 9/11", and that the Patriot Act was "not" written long before 9/11, and that the anthrax thing was just a joke. So if I have to choose between believing a respected Egyptian lawyer (who's bombed no-one) and a bunch of psychopathic crooks, and it checks out with other info, I will.
Here is What the Aircraft controller at dulles actually said in full, about Hanjours Maneavuer not the edited version Loose change gives you... Danielle O'Brien, Dulles ATC-The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane," O'Brien said. "you don't fly a 757 in that manner. It's unsafe." He never said you it was a Military plane or couldn't be done..he said "it's not safe."
To land a plane is one thing, and to crash it on a certain spot is quite another. The testimony I've heard from an experienced pilot is that crashing a plane into WTC is a very difficult endeavour.
You must be kidding? You think if someone can land a 767/757, they wouldn't be able to hit one of two 1368 foot tall buildings that were 208 feet wide! Difficult Endeavor? A friend of mine is a Captain for continental airlines and has been flying for 33 years.We have discussed what large aircraft are capable of many times, well before 911. He says the pilots and the planes were capable of doing everything they did! Given enough altitude a 767/757 is capable of doing a roll or even a loop!
The data contradicting the official version can be found (at least many of them) in respectable MSM: BBC, The Guardian, Le Figaro, Sidney Morning Herald ... of course, you may not get these news on the front page or in FAUX News. So many ex-CIA high officers doubt the 9/11 lie, and high politicians in Europe -but if you want to think it's only a bunch of all-suspecting freaks it's up to you. Similarly, common sense, physical laws + simple reasoning shows the fallacy of it all.
Atta had Hundreds of Hours of flying time. A commercial license and instrument rating...to say Atta had no flight experience is just flat out ignorance or a lie!
exactly, they just plain ignore the truth. There is so much background information on the terrorist while they were in the states, and they continue to deny that they even exist, then they now come up with planes not even hitting the towers in the first place. I mean I don't even know how to argue anymore with people that have such little common sense that they don't even think planes hit the bldgs, it's just crazy. I guess you just can't fix stupid
What about Hani Hanjour. Plus, given the footage of Atta that morning, it's hard to believe that he even made it to that plane. How come none of the "perps" is on the passenger list, and 7 of them were alive months after the attack?
Hani hanjour-facts- Had his pilots license,instrument rating and a commercial pilots license whci takes 250 hrs of training/experience to get! He had over 600 hours of flying time and experience! Hanjour also trained in a Boeing 737 simulator!
I didn't make myself clear there. The Hezarkhani audeo is manipulated in that it is lifted to relpace the background noises in the "clear audio" version of the collapse of the south tower to hide the fact that the original audio was removed to add fake demolition charges.
Oh, so the media were not scripted that day, and were in fact instrumental in setting up the Pentagon! Un-fucking-believable! Amazing the stuff one learns off YT! I repea, the calls Jeff made to Boeing don't tell you anything, nor do the ones he made to Popular Mechanics (a scientific work with NO exact references? Hmmmm) Thanks for telling me to "stop acting like a fool", but look who's talking
Dumbshit Dylan doesn't even know what an aircraft crash scene looks like. Let's see that little turd explain what made those wing prints on the facade of the Pentagon.
u better be worried about what american kids are doing in america...shooting kids and ppl in schools malls,streets,unis..etc..at least kids in afganistan dont do that ..if they carry weapons they point it to those ppl who invaded their countries...even afgani kids has more courage than ur pussy cat soldiers ..they came back from war and commit suicide...pussies ...
Wait, so a bunch of pussies brought this country to a world superpower in about 150 years. Yikes, some pussies. YOu do understand that the world isnt a peachy place and if one country doesnt "rule" another will. LIsten buddy, kids in america kill other kids etc. b/c life is so easy (Relatively) in america you get bored and loose your sense of worth. So how did JORDAn and all those other Muslims countries do against lil AMerica back in the 60's??? A looser calling winners pussies, thats classic
ok cool then ..many americans beleive or (know)that 911 was an inside job..not to mention that the majority of americans beleive that war aginst iraq was based on american lies ....dont u thik that if they FAKED reasons to attack iraq it is very possible that they faked reasons to make war in afganistan ...follow the news and u will find out the truth if u really cosider ur self a SMART ASS AMERICAN ..
americans spending billions of $s on space shuttles and space projects to find out what z happening in the sapce,moon,mars..etc but they dont know what z hapening in this world or even in their country!!!!
not every american has to be as bad as we think but all arabs and muslims are terrorists and bad ppl ...is that fair ......??!!!
this is the stupidest video I've ever seen. How does this prove the Loose Change guys wrong or prove that 911 had no inside involvement?? it doesn't at all. show a video of points and facts being presented, instead of biased propaganda, you truth deniers really are pathetic.....think what you want of truthers....they at least have real things to say, unlike shit like this
omg, did someone in your dreams tell you that load of shit??? wat are you fucking retarded?? before 911.......yeah, and i guess the towers collapsed before the planes hit too, right??? you fucking moron
@DarklingX
What isn't exclusive to the US?
Havenfall 1 year ago
Dylan Avery is an opportunistic faggot who sniffs his own shit when he coughs up a steamer.
GoblinsnHobbits 1 year ago
what a waste of a you tube entry
acehighcall 1 year ago
Dylan Avery is a 100% certified idiot! Anyone who watches the History Channel's "The 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction" and still believes Dylan Avery is also an idiot.
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BlueMurder911 2 years ago
Makers of these kind of videos hide their identities because they can't prove these lies. I will be the first to help you leave this great country that you obviously hate. You have no respect for what has been given to you for free of charge, that is to be an American! Piss will always soak your graves
guitarzero 2 years ago
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Havenfall 2 years ago 2
America is great because everyone wants to come here. Either you love us or just plain jealous. The economy is down right now but it's not the first time. It will eventually get better. Thats why America is great. Because we face any adversity(almost).
AmericasFan 2 years ago
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Havenfall 2 years ago
Why because no other country has liberated the millions of people world wide? Because of the U.S. there are less dictators in the world. I love my country period. If it ever becomes Nazi Germany than that is the day I leave.
AmericasFan 2 years ago
you are all idiots this doesn't prove anything.....
hahah but Im sure your the same type of people who believe all brown skin people should be shot right??
turtlecore 2 years ago
WELL DONE!
nodramareturns 2 years ago
All vids must show the same thing - they do not.
How fast were the planes going jp?
At first it was reported they were at full throttle when they hit, then somebody asked and these jets CANNOT fly at nearly top speed at that altitude, check it for yourself.
These planes are dented by birds flying much faster at higher altitude, these planes dont lose a single piece entering a building? not even the tail section that seems to just fall off every once and a while? cmonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
giantshadows 3 years ago
who is the shill?
richardmullins44 3 years ago
My theory
1) Painted military aircraft
2) Bombs disguised as equipment stored in secure "computer" rooms exactly where the planes hit-Chris Bollyn
3) Media instructed to create as much footage as possible to instill greater public fear. They are given some basic info such as trajectories and aircraft size.
4) Slow demolition of all three bldgs throughout the day...making the major demolitions (collapses) less obvious
JSSTyger 3 years ago
So we cant believe this even though the transponder indicated on radar the planes direction, it was filmed from multiple angles and seen by thousands, and the landing gear cut a woman in half? The luggage was spread all over manhattan, yet we cant believe this. You boys should be ashamed, and beaten with a lenght of hose. You shame your parents.
heartm8 3 years ago
There is local NY Media Live coverage that does not mention nor show Planes hitting the towers.
I have some of those actual videos in my favs
RawVegan0 3 years ago
Did you know that youtube says your account is closed? I wanted to watch your favorites and was unable to!
oldskoolbrawler 3 years ago
Why would you waste time and energy posting such a shit video. Why does Dylan Avery bother you so much???? Get a life.
FilmpoetsTV 3 years ago 2
That's what I always wonder. Why do people take so much time putting down an argument instead of taking the time to research it?
User1018828 3 years ago
the footage was shot by michael hezerkanni(sp)
who GAVE it to cnn, he will not answer any questions on where he was or how he shot it.
he just happens to be a LA diamond dealer.
the are phone calls to him where he acts very nervous. he says he cant answer any questions about it. the video has a fake soundtrack...
giantshadows 3 years ago
Giant
Ive never heard this before, what you have just written. Where did you hear this that it was MIKE HEZERKANNI who shot the video of plane hitting ?
I will admit this footage appears very peculiar and suspicious to me for this reason, its as if the Plane just 'cuts' right through that bldg with NO resistance whatsoever, we're talking about a Lightweight Aluminum Plane going through very THICK dense Concrete and Steel, its like the plane just 'dissapears' into the Bldg
RawVegan0 3 years ago
there is a vid here on youtube, where someone calls hezerkanni (Cali diamond dealer) and he says he cant talk about the vid at all, only that he shot it and gave it to cnn...
I mean cmon, the tail section doesnt even break loose, it too goes through the bldg with no resistance, nothing breaks off this plane as it slices through a bldg.. cmon
giantshadows 3 years ago
giant
Are you aware of an independent 911 research guy named ACE BAKER ? He is offering a DVD soon that documents precisely how and why he thinks the Plane videos of the WTC were totally faked and are phony
His position is that there were NO planes used at all on 911 , that it was just one huge hoax
I am starting to think this is the reality of the situation, that NO planes were used at all, since we Know No Plane hit Pentagon, probably WTC video is fake too
RawVegan0 3 years ago
I think both of you are forgetting how fast those planes were going. A blade of grass can go in one side of a car and outside the other during a hurricane, and jet airliners can go a lot faster than the winds of a hurricane. A massive plane going hundreds of miles an hour is going to cut through a building like crap through a goose.
jpddude 3 years ago
well that proves it, go back to sleep america your government is in control.
fuktyranny 3 years ago
dumbest video ive ever seen. go fuck yourself.
xenimous 3 years ago 2
yup! thumbs up!
killcs 3 years ago
fuck u! u jew!
neefdude 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Damn.. lol you act like Dylan Avery planned 9-11. He's actually making a rather solid attempt at disclosing the mostly true conspiracy. Quit hatin.
Modelmaterial7 3 years ago
Like Alex Jones Loose Change = Jews keeping you away from israel's 911 envolvment.
911 = li6 generated and peopagated by the media faked reports and "plane footage" controlled by jews(who planned the whole thing) all for israel!
To understand how "what we saw" on TV was FAKED look up September Clues.
foxxx2001 3 years ago
FUCK you Jew hater.
calicolorado02 3 years ago 3
I'm really glad people are waking up but, 9-11 Bush, Avery, etc..., aren't the problem. They're just tools of the problem. A long time ago a bunch of rich white guys printed up a bunch of paper and told us it had extraordinary value. That's the problem. If you can understand that war, poverty, greed, and so many other evils of the world are reliant on currency, only then can you start to truly live. Be Peacefull. Be Joyfull. That's the best weapon we have against them. I love you all.
VernieKQ04 3 years ago
DYLAN AVERY IS EMPLOYED BY G. BUSH! Why? Because Avery with his dubious film making skills, inability to debate and merely average intelligence is ideal to make the right wing Bush administration look like the good guys. Everytime he voices his insane conspiracy theories, a Republican somewhere picks up ten votes. Also D. Avery, aided by the Bush administration, has created this 9/11 truth bullshit to divert the American people from realising the more important issues like poverty or inequality.
Insanindemembrane 3 years ago
I've notice this comment on other vids as well. Word for word. Doing a lot of cut and paste work are ya. What is your agenda, and who do you work for? lol
artist4truth 3 years ago
I don't work for anyone. I think Loose Change brings up very good questions. As of today I have not seen any evidence that supports claims that this was an outside job. Is the guy who posted this saying Dylan Avery claims no planes struck the towers? If so that is not true. This video made no sense. Lmao bullshit.
chopin65 3 years ago
What is actually the point, regardless of what is true or false -because the whole truth will never be uncovered- is that Bush is just messing up everything America claims to stand for: Freedom, democracy, equality,... for money and power. A real patriot should scream his heart out. Patriotism isn't folowing the leaders, it's fighting in any way for the values of your country. I believe that people like Dylan Avery are patriots. Although you disagree, respect them. That's freedom of speech!
pollooo 3 years ago
Your missing the point. Avery is caught lying. He's a liar, and he's a leader of a "truth" movement. Lies.......Truth......fuck that.
And fuck him, and fuck you as well
guntherznadz 3 years ago
Oh come on! First of all, with all the information he's digged up about this, it could've been a simple mistake. Besides, who in the fuck cares about one single lie from Dylan Avery considering all the truths he's uncovered? Besides, it seems to me as though you're calling Dylan Avery a hypocrite, still, I strongly doubt that you've never lied yourself which would indicate that you're a hypocrite as well. You're not better than him if that's what you think...
Paddis92 3 years ago
yes I am. I'm better than you, Jesus, and Avery.Loose Change was sooo good it had to be edited 3 times! Piss on this turd already. He's a little bitch, and if I ever see him, I gonna tell him that he's a lil bitch.
guntherznadz 3 years ago
Dylan Avery is a Jew. All the media are owned by Jews. The truth movements are run by Jews. They take control of the truthing. Jewish Silverstein, the owner of The White House Theatre, was the target and the perpetrator on 9/11.
George Bush is a Jew. Only Jews have reasons to lie about 9/11.
The Pentagon had its groundbreaking ceremony on 9/11-1941. Exactly 60 years later Silverstein demolished his buildings. 9/11 was probably planned before the WTCs were built.
Final911Truth 3 years ago
Fuck you, paranoid, backwoods, trailer living Jew hater.
calicolorado02 3 years ago 2
I'll bet you love Silverstein, the mass murderer. Let me guess, you're a Jew?
Final911Truth 3 years ago
"Fuck you, paranoid, backwoods, trailer living Jew hater."
He's just pissed because the space aliens rejected him.
hughjorgan111 3 years ago
If you watch his documentary then you will notice that he says that a "MALE" , "Jeweler" shot this video. He even calls him on the phone to get an answer as to where he shot the video from, and yet he can't answer. Yes the video is fake, you just agreed with everything we believe in. Thank you, get your facts straight and get all the information before you put your foot in your mouth.
OneProduktionFilm 3 years ago
u fool ur just another sheep following the system u need to look out side for once and see the truth!!!! ur being fucked over by your government!!!!
gefferzz 3 years ago
Your a fucking idiot for believing that gefferzz
1q1q1q1qjigsaw 3 years ago
why?
gefferzz 2 years ago
Rose is speaking out her arce!
nervewracker 3 years ago
where can we find dylan acery? and beat the dog shit outta him
chibangin007 3 years ago
The guy that made this video is 34 apparently. I highly doubt it, he speaks as though he was 10. i rated this video Poor.
wezzyT1 3 years ago
i'm not even speaking in this video. dumb fuck
guntherznadz 3 years ago
see what i mean, swearing all of the time, typical out of control young child.
wezzyT1 3 years ago
Its called holographic projection. The US military has the technology that can display a 3D image of an individual or object and give it an appearance of actual being in that spot while attributing to characteristics of wind, sunlight, etc etc.
MCdmac 3 years ago
Can someone explain what this video is all about and what it means because i didn't understand a single second of it :s
AmericanHero911 3 years ago
guntherznadz
if the government iz paying u for this video i would understand why ur doing...but if they aint, then, ur fuckin idiot...lol
BizzyBumpyWilson 3 years ago
that doesnt say shit wat a stupid video
putup 3 years ago
Haha. Mentally ill no planers attacking lying half-wits. Who to root for? Aw, the hell with it. Pass the popcorn and show me more.
drzhivagho 3 years ago
"OH, so now it's "Nearly" freefall speed."
yeah my bad, it was free fall for sure punk!
"Prep would be impossible."
they closed the towers over the weekend twice before 911 no power, with little-Bushie in charge. They used paid mercenaries with idealogical and religious obsessions to set the charges in the elevator shafts and elsewhere.
"no derbis found from materials"
Demo's don't usually use Thermite that much. But here they used it bc it was fast, strong, and quiet. & left no debris
earthpains 3 years ago
"no derbis found from materials"
Demo's don't usually use Thermite that much. But here they used it bc it was fast, strong, and quiet. & left no debris
JUST POOLS OF MOLTEN METAL, FOR MONTHS N MONTHS IN THE LOWER LAVELS OF WTC 1,2 & 7. AND TRACES OF SULPHER EVERYWHERE. AND EVEN A FEW PICTURES OF BEAMS CUT BY THERMATE CHARGES AT GROUND ZERO.
earthpains 3 years ago
"fire fueled by thousands of gallons of jet fuel."
dude the fuel was all burned up almost instantly in a big fireball. No open fire of sheet rock and office materials can get to 2300F either.
the Nova documentary was debunked. Only one truss might of gottn hot enough to bend, so what. What explains the rest of the building? Did it melt too? And the insulation being stripped off is total bullshit
earthpains 3 years ago
Objects at equilibrium (the condition in which all forces balance) will not accelerate. According to Newton, an object will only accelerate if there is a net or unbalanced force acting upon it. The presence of an unbalanced force will accelerate an object - changing either its speed, its direction, or both it's speed and direction.
There was no resistance givin on each floor.
To physically "SMASH" each of the 80+ floors, it would take twice as long to fall. More like 20-30 sec at least.
earthpains 3 years ago
the fires in the towers weren't hot enough ..for long enough ..or extensive enough, to allow "both" to fall the same way at nearly freefall speed.
the towers accelerated downward. If they had more time they would have sped up to trminal velocity of 110 mph. they fell in 15 seconds. Do the math
The first law - sometimes referred to as the law of inertia - states that if the forces acting upon an object are balanced, then the acceleration of that object will be 0 m/s/s.
earthpains 3 years ago
"No moltensteel was in the basement."
prove it. satelitte photos of the heat emenating from all 3 sites for months is proof of Thermite use.
"No steel building. ..., Dogwood Elementary School"
those aren't high rises made from heavy steel columns. The point is, a huge skyscraper like the twin towers for example, is made from 4 inch thick high grade steel beams designed to hold A LOT OF WEIGHT. None of your examples are the same type of building we're supposed to be talking about.
earthpains 3 years ago
thermate melts steel. wtc 7 was full of it just like wtc 1 and 2 were. they let some of it loose in wtc7 after towers 1 & 2 were demolished, to "simulate" damage caused from the towers falling, therby making the pools of fire in the basement of wtc7 a ploy to get the building evacuated so they could "urban renewal" it too! wtc 3-6 were much more heavily damaged and remained standing. No steel building has ever fallen from a fire, an open fire, or even a pool of Thermate in the basement!
earthpains 3 years ago
"or even a pool of Thermate in the basement!"
..but DID from charges secretly set throughout the building!
earthpains 3 years ago
charges secretly set in the building...oh I never get tired of that idiocy...
cheneybushdick 3 years ago
the story of 911 is:
planes hit towers -pilots see Ala
Billion dollar kickback for Bushys from Silverstein's urban renewal plan for NYC
multi Billion dollar kickback to Cheney and Haliburton, Exxon, Chevron, M.I.Complex etc etc for oil in war based on lies!
Create fearful Americans who allow their rights to be trampled in the name of security to the benifit of a cabol of New World Order types (probably religious, probably idealogically fascist) bent on culling world populations for da future
earthpains 3 years ago
you just helped this conspiracy theorist to get another piece of the puzzle :-) You made me realize that Thermate was used around the inside of wtc7 to start vigorous fires OF MOLTEN STEEL, as an excuse to tell the public, "of the immenent collapse". BUT in reality the structure was set to go anyway(Could have been sooner than planned or later, or right on time. Ask the BBC, they reported it past-tense 25 minutes early!) with Thermite charges along with Wtc 1 & 2.
BIG Q is why exactly Wtc7 too?
earthpains 3 years ago
wow that is one sustained propaganda campaign by rolling. If you have the patience to sift through the sheer volume of propaganda you will see the lies. But as Earl Warren said, "The American people don't read"
roscogre 3 years ago
The towers fell at free-fall speed. That would mean that the floors gave NO resistance. You can clearly see the demolition "squibs." The heavy smoke was indicitive of an oxygen deprived fire. An airforce plane flew into the Empire State building in the 50s or 40s. Not much happened. Numerous steel framed buildings have burnt to the ground and the steel frame was left standing; strong enough to hold a crane. The Twin Towers were built to withstand a plane crash because of ESB incident.
MrDuffy81 3 years ago
Demolition experts are baffled by how it fell so fast. It was a combo of implosions and explosions. Steel beams 20 feet and longer were wedged into the sides of the surrounding buildings. They got there from the blast of energy from a nuclear weapon. Similar technology was used at Oklahoma city. Fire does not have the force to blow heavy steel beams hundreds of feet and wedge them into hardened concrete. No solid items were found by rescue workers and clean up crew.
MrDuffy81 3 years ago
Everything and everyone was desintigrated. They found bone fragments no bigger than 7 cm on the tops of surrounding buildings. There were a series of explosions that are verified by numerous surviving eyewitnesses in the basements of both towers. There is seismic evidence of the entire event. When you hear the home videos you can hear major explosions across New York harbor in NJ by witnesses.
Have you heard about WTC building 7? It fell also at freefall speed and was hit by no plane.
MrDuffy81 3 years ago
Larry Silverstein owned WTC 7 abd admitted on camera that "the decision was made to pull it." Silverstein bought the WTC complex for 15million and in the insurance contract, terrorist acts are covered. He owned both twin towers, and because of the 2 plane theory, he argued in court that it was 2 seperate acts, and was awarded a total of 7 BILLION dollars total. What a "smart" investmebt, which he made not 3 months before 9-11-01.
Cheney wrote that the US needed a new pearl harbor event ...
MrDuffy81 3 years ago
to get the people behind a cause. If you watch the YT video of the court room testimony of Lawyer William Schaap you will learn that the CIA has infiltrated the media. They go to journalism school and get a job and coordinate a secret agenda. Many people reading and reporting the news are on a CIA paylist. That is why, on a national level, they can be so heartless and unemotional. Not All, or Most, but many, and that is a fact. It was a controlled demolition with TV trickery.
MrDuffy81 3 years ago
You can clearly see the demolition "squibs." LMAO....can't...stop..laughing...
cheneybushdick 3 years ago
EdgemanLL2 3 years ago
Mine was sarcasm.
cheneybushdick 3 years ago
That is why you are just rolling along...and I and many others are evolving.
The Truth needs not to slander the lie.
MrDuffy81 3 years ago
Great point, BSreg.
jupiterjjrm 3 years ago
Dylan = fake as falsies.
OzzyBsregFredwald 3 years ago
Watch: 9-11 September Clues.
It will reveal the Truth to you.
Loose change has pieces. They All have pieces.
MrDuffy81 3 years ago
The building to be known as the most heavily secured or defended building in the world, is actually Fort Knox! The fact is you or I have no Idea what defenses the Pentagon has.You must say that it is the most heavily defended building in order to promote your conspiracy theory, even though truthfully and factually, you have no idea what defenses it has!...So stop spreading myths or lies!
quaheedus 3 years ago
The Pentagon has no type of defense systems that would be able to prevent something from hitting it, period, bottom line is it's still just an office bldg. It has guards, security obviously, and plenty of cameras, but can't shoot anything. And whats with your kirk hammett video? it's as fake as loose change
jeffmay1 3 years ago
I agree with you! The Pentagon does not have some sort of automated missile defense system. Kirk Hammet?..lol..It is supposed to be fake..Its hilarious..and yes I do Like Metallica. There are some hilarious ones of Petrucci from Dream Theater on YT also. if you know who that is?
quaheedus 3 years ago
You keep saying that the pentagon is "the most heavily defended building in the world" Could you please point me in the direction of where you get those facts from? And please don't say Alex Jones or Loose Change.
Who said the Pentagon only had one camera? It actually has over 80, but let me guess, you are upset that the gov't hasn't released every video of a plane full of Americans crashing to their deaths into a bldg for your amusement, yes damn them, why can't we all watch them die
jeffmay1 3 years ago
The theorem of cognitive dissonance holds that the mind automatically and involuntarily rejects information not in line with previously held beliefs. The "Trusted media and government sources" have supplanted the lie. Now you defend your trusted authorities as the truth rather than seeking truth as the authority.
This type of individual is what I would call a sycophant to authority.
Slavesrevolt 3 years ago 2
Ha, I don't need the Gov't, or media to tell me my thoughts thank you very much.
I can see clearly with my own two eyes, that a plane crashed into the bldgs
That the bldgs did not fall from a controlled demolition
That there was plane debris and wreckage at both pentagon and Shanksville
That bldg 7 was on fire all day, that all day they were predicting that it was unsafe and likely to fall, and that no one was actually surprised when it did
Common sense is all that I need to see the facts
jeffmay1 3 years ago
Okay well good for you. Now go on about your day. I don't need to hear puked up media information.
morknmindl 3 years ago
great remark......bravo
Goldbuckles 3 years ago
Haha. Yeah man. The Pentagon and the rest of the United States is apparently not defended at all. NORAD is just some place people that play video games and it's basically a useless tax grab.
It's not about amusement and don't try and play that victim card. It's fucking pathetic. It's a dishonor to the victims planes or no planes to not get the right story.
I guess you have never seen the videos from NYC. At least not more than once. You are too good for that.
morknmindl 3 years ago
Right, so I ask you where you got your information that the pentagon was "the most heavily guarded bldg in the world" and you turn around with a sarcastic answer like,"the pentagon is apparently not defended at all" What kind of logic is that??? Is that how you answer questions? by not answering them and making dumb sarcastic remarks?
And you want to see videos for YOU, not for the victims. The victims have been identified, plane debris everywhere, who needs to watch it? The truth is there
jeffmay1 3 years ago
Was that me that wrote that? I have heard that before.
The logic is that it is completely defenceless as is any skyscraper. Right? Apparently. No defence at all. Nothing. Zero.
morknmindl 3 years ago
80 cameras where did you get this info?and if so, 80 cameras located and pointed where? at the side of the building with no entrance? or do they point them where they should be pointed such as entries at the gates, security shack,entrances into the pentagon etc?
quaheedus 3 years ago
Rose... she should be questioned under aoth, in the CNN DVD, she claims to find a piece of paper, after the collaps, that happened to be a resume of a freind of hers applying at WTC on that day. Then she handeled the powder on the ground. She says "I felt like I could step on top of the towers" before they fall. And now, where is she?
enviroaces 3 years ago
The pentagon has more cameras around it than anywhere else in the world.
cragww 3 years ago
WHO TOLD YOU THIS?
quaheedus 3 years ago
bsreg sez: "It must be really hard to get honestly confused about something you've seen millions of times!"
"Honestly" has nuttin' to do with it. It pays the bills, lol...
nameofthepen 3 years ago 2
lets kill this faggot.
notmypres22 3 years ago
ooops, you're the "no planes on 9/11" gang.
mightyhighroller 3 years ago
Gang? Did you notice that Avery is shown to be a hypocrite in this video? No. You didn't spend a second thought about it. You stopped thinking about it and jumped into group thought. It's warm and fuzzy and people like you group thought land. BIG LIES. BIG LIAR. HE SAW IT A MILLION TIMES. YOU CAN TRUST HIM...HE'LL TELL YA . die fucktard
guntherznadz 3 years ago
chill bitch. you ever thought that 9/11 was maybe IHOP + LIHOP + CGI implanted images? you stupid fucks are going to quarrel over the differences, while you should persue common interest and that is to spread the 9/11 truth.
obviously, you're either not going to do that and you're gonna let your personal differences interfere, or you are a member of a disinformation gang. the bottom line is that 9/11 truthers splitting and fighting aint gonna help noone.
johnpindelski 3 years ago 2
i see that the future army of cheney, which will "liberate" iran in the near future, is growing bigger and bigger. jayep, guntherznadz, maddox,
that fucking bufoon from "screwloosechange". boy, it will be fantastic seeing you guys prancing around with full military equipment all around iran. i hope i'll be there to film it. after all, you wanted it... you'll get it. so go ahead and trust dick cheney. if you're stupid enough to believe a man like him... you deserve whetever he brings your way.
mightyhighroller 3 years ago 3
The second aircraft strike was filmed by Michael Hezarkhani from a ferry docking at Battery Park near Castle Clinton. I think Arce just got a still shot of it.
leftysergeant 4 years ago
Precisely. Michael Hezarkhani, the same guy who was exposed by Jeff Hill pumpitout, and claims to have "sold his vid to CNN" as well as that "I can't even say where I shot it from". It's a composite: shot from Battery Park + fake addition. (this has been proven). Interesting that all the key witnesses were high executives in corporate media.
jupiterjjrm 4 years ago
Jeff Hill has never proven anything. He's a sociopath. He would be arrested if he tried the shit he does from this side of the border. He doesn't even ask the right questions of the right people. JREF HAS debunked Jeff's BS about the camera angle from Battery Park. They got the elevation exactly.
THIS video is the only one that has been PROVEN to have been manipulated by anyone and it was obviously manipulated by twoofers trying to fake evidence of CD.
leftysergeant 4 years ago
Oh really? Sociopath? Official plane speed = rubbish, and you don't need to abide by Jeff Hill's phone calls. A simple computation of avg speed shows it was only f'ing bleeps in a radar. But if you're a sargeant, maybe you're not allowed to think for yourself. 1 million Iraqis incl. children, all for a fucking lie. Who's the sociopath here. Does JREF then say 11-S was as the official version says? Wow, so much for a "scientific skeptic".
jupiterjjrm 4 years ago
The planes were real. The turd that Jeff talked to does not design aircraft. He designs soft ware and was long retired when the planes were hijacked. None of the office people he spoke to were pilots or engineers. Just like Bollyn talked to someone who didn't make Rolls Royce engines to determine whether or not they found the right engine at the pentagon.
leftysergeant 4 years ago
The planes were not real. The phone calls Jeff Hill made to Boeing were real, and match data Major Doug Rokke (PhD in Physics) gives (although he doesn't mention the no planes issue). The Hezarkhani vid is a complete fake. Joe Keith was not an aeronautical engineer, but someone else from Boeing gave similar data. Anyway, a simple computation shows that the official trajectory was a fake, as the avg speed is > max cruise speed.
jupiterjjrm 4 years ago
Jeff never spoke to an actual aeronautical engineer who really knew the 757. So what if they were doing max cruising speed? Get it straight and stop acting a fool. Max cruising speed is the speed not to be exceded for safety reasons. 100 MPH is not the top speed of which a Mercedes is capable, either. You fly a Boeing too long above that "max cruise speed," and the wings will break eventually. Do you really think that any of the hijackers gave a rat's ass?
leftysergeant 4 years ago
"stop acting a fool" "Do you really think that any of the hijackers gave a rat's ass?" Do you think a guy who's never in his life been even capable of flying a Cessna will be capable of hitting a narrow tower?!?! Without ground control?!?! Who's the one acting like a fool? And you still believe, or make believe, the official story.
jupiterjjrm 4 years ago
"a narrow tower" are you kidding me, did you ever visit them before they fell? Or have you only seen them on video? They were 1 ACRE PER FLOOR, do you have any idea how wide that is? they were wider then the entire wing span of the planes? Have you been on planes that big before? Any idea how big that is? They may appear narrow from a distance, or looking at them up high, but these bldgs were far from narrow, and would be very easy to hit
jeffmay1 3 years ago 2
Narrow, from the point of view of a plane trying to hit from afar. Turbulences, impossibility of speed, no ground control at all, absolute beginners piloting the plane -even a condecorated pilot couldn't do it!! Not to mention that Atta was part of an exchange between the German secret service and the Mossad, and phoned his father on 9/12. Ain't that suspicious? Ah well
jupiterjjrm 3 years ago
Ha, so you are suspicious of everything and everybody, think that thousands of people are lying to you in a cover up, but you believe a terrorists father that says he spoke to his son on 9/12. Thats really warped. Gee, I wonder why he's never been heard from in the 7 yrs since 9/12, only the day after, just plain crazy
jeffmay1 3 years ago
HAARETZ: 4 hours before the 'attacks', Ogido (Israeli company) WTC employees received warnings not to go to WTC that day. SF CHRONICLE: Willie Brown received forewarning not to go to NY on 9/10; Salman Rushdie said to BBC he'd received forewarnings too. Marvin Bush was head of SecuraCom, which had a sec contract with WTC THAT EXPIRED ON THE VERY 9/11. All this on respectable media. (BTW, the Mossad killed Atta, and 7 of the 19 'hijackers' are alive & kicking)
jupiterjjrm 3 years ago
You have said so many things that have been proven wrong already, if you want to actually have a convo about this then email me and we can go from there, other than that here is the sillyness of what you spread. Alex Jones started the whole "the contract expired on 9/11" BS story. Well, not really BS because it did actually expire, but do you know why? Because it is a security company and the bldgs were gone. THERE WERE NO BUILDINGS LEFT to secure, thats why the last day of the contract was 9/11
jeffmay1 3 years ago
I'll give you the last one (contract), but FFS, don't come around AT THIS STAGE saying "IT'S BEEN PROVEN THAT A BEARDED DEVIL IN CIA PAYROLL FROM A CAVE THAT DOESN'T EXIST DID 9/11" cuz it's pure BS. So much stuff has been released in what you'd call respectable media, that it's undeniable.
jupiterjjrm 3 years ago
Sorry, I just can't take you seriously when you still say things like BL was on CIA payroll, and Marvin Bush was head of security on 9-11, and that securecom's contract ended on 9-11, thats just old stupid lies started by Alex Jones, the biggest liar of them all. EVERY company that had any kind of contract with WTC had their contracts end on 9-11 dumbass cause there were no more towers. It wasn't a contract that was pre-determined to end that day, it ended because the whole complex was destroyed
jeffmay1 3 years ago
Who created Al Qaeda? CIA + ISI. Who sent Atta $100K the days prior to 9/11? ISI. Who has no common sense? Whoever believes that a plane blowing no friendly signal could have avoided the automatic missile defence system; who thinks Patriot Act has nothing to do with 9/11; who believes everything FAUXNoise says without questioning, and who thinks sthg is debunked simply b/c sb says so. Popular Mechanics = my toilet paper; that's no science and no better than for poop cleaning
jupiterjjrm 3 years ago
Conspiracy theorist such as Loose Change say that Marcel Bernard said this about Hanjour- "he was very quiet, average, or below average piloting skills"
Here is what else Bernard said in the same interview that Loose Change does not show.. Marcel Bernard- "There's no doubt in my mind that once (Flight 77) got going, he could have pointed that plane at a building and hit it."...Wake up dude! Dylan Avery is either ignorant as hell or just a liar!
quaheedus 3 years ago
No flight can enter the Pentagon without emitting a friendly signal, otherwise an automatic missile defence system would fry it. Plus, how come can a plane "vapourise" and at the same time Pentagon 'MEs' identify the DNA of their victims? Rubbish. You can believe in the tooth fairy if you like. BTW, how come the "plane" hit the only side of the Pentagon that was under construction, way far from Rumsfeld? Never mind, you'll still believe in "the bogeyman from the cave"
jupiterjjrm 3 years ago
The funniest thing is that under interests you actually wrote "investigative journalism" hahaha, too funny, you've been making me laugh all week long ever since I saw your first post. Quoting Alex Jones, and the Loose Change guys, who have been proven wrong, and have even admitted their own mistakes in some cases, and yet you still quote those mistakes, really spells out how "investigative" you are in your reseach. If you actually are serious, there are legit answers to most of your questions
jeffmay1 3 years ago
You know what makes me laugh all week? That ye guys have no fucking idea of the history of your own country and how enticing false-flag operations are to your leaders. It's your problem though.
jupiterjjrm 3 years ago
Jupiter The aircraft in the video is going well over 300 mph in order to go vertical. A 757 or 767 is fully capable of flying 500 mph at 1000 feet or even 100 ft, especially if it is in a descent.
FAA regulations prohibit an aircraft(unless authorized) from flying over 250 Knots (288mph) below 10,000ft, they also prohibit aircraft from flying over 200knots (230 mph) below 2500 feet within 4 miles of a primary airport.This is why you never see aircraft flying 300 or more mph!
quaheedus 3 years ago
There is no automatic defense system! The risk are to high with thousands of commercial and private aircraft taking of from RR airport just 2 miles away!All aircraft are not equipped with the same transponders and some transponders such as Mode-S allow manual input of the numbers which can be entered wrong. As of April 2008 gliders still are not required by FAA rules to have a transponder at all!What if a transponder fails? I guess these aircraft just get blown out of the sky, huh!
quaheedus 3 years ago
I guess the Pentagon fucks are so incompetent as to leave the building unprotected then. 2.3 trillion $ went down a bottomless hole on the eve of 9/11. BTW, Bush only appeared before the Commission with Cheney and no-one swore anything, just in case. And there are still people who believe evr. he says.
jupiterjjrm 3 years ago
Well it was the first time in HISTORY (remember saying we don't know history?) that ANY president has gone before a commission. Not pearl harbour, JFK death, there is NO precident for a president to answer to a commission. So Bush, actually breaks with that so that he can try to be somewhat helpfull to the commission (I won't be naive to say that he didn't want to cover up some of his own mistakes) but REALLY, he didn't have to speak to them at all, and did, and you still complain its not enough
jeffmay1 3 years ago
Great. So tell me what was the point when there is zero record of it? Might as well have not happened. Did Bush go to a comission? Did he? How do you know? Because the media tells you so?
morknmindl 3 years ago
Atta enrolled for 300HRs of flight training at at Huffman Aviation.Also Enrolled at Jones aviation.Received high scores on his pilot,instrument and commercial test and had all 3.Trained in 727 simulators. Bought training videos for 767,757,rented aircraft to practice in. It requires 250 flight hours including time flying under certain conditions and performing certain kinds of maneuvers to get a commercial license. The pilot must demonstrate increasing levels of skill and experience.
quaheedus 3 years ago
I'm suspicious of a few media crooks and military industrial CEOs, that's it. But deep inside I know that "a bearded (ex-?)CIA agent, from a non-existant cave in Tora Bora, did 9/11", and that the Patriot Act was "not" written long before 9/11, and that the anthrax thing was just a joke. So if I have to choose between believing a respected Egyptian lawyer (who's bombed no-one) and a bunch of psychopathic crooks, and it checks out with other info, I will.
jupiterjjrm 3 years ago
Here is What the Aircraft controller at dulles actually said in full, about Hanjours Maneavuer not the edited version Loose change gives you... Danielle O'Brien, Dulles ATC-The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane," O'Brien said. "you don't fly a 757 in that manner. It's unsafe." He never said you it was a Military plane or couldn't be done..he said "it's not safe."
quaheedus 3 years ago
The two men from Myth Busters landed a 767 in a simulator on their second attempt with absolutely zero prior training.
quaheedus 3 years ago
To land a plane is one thing, and to crash it on a certain spot is quite another. The testimony I've heard from an experienced pilot is that crashing a plane into WTC is a very difficult endeavour.
jupiterjjrm 3 years ago
You must be kidding? You think if someone can land a 767/757, they wouldn't be able to hit one of two 1368 foot tall buildings that were 208 feet wide! Difficult Endeavor? A friend of mine is a Captain for continental airlines and has been flying for 33 years.We have discussed what large aircraft are capable of many times, well before 911. He says the pilots and the planes were capable of doing everything they did! Given enough altitude a 767/757 is capable of doing a roll or even a loop!
quaheedus 3 years ago
The data contradicting the official version can be found (at least many of them) in respectable MSM: BBC, The Guardian, Le Figaro, Sidney Morning Herald ... of course, you may not get these news on the front page or in FAUX News. So many ex-CIA high officers doubt the 9/11 lie, and high politicians in Europe -but if you want to think it's only a bunch of all-suspecting freaks it's up to you. Similarly, common sense, physical laws + simple reasoning shows the fallacy of it all.
jupiterjjrm 3 years ago
Atta had Hundreds of Hours of flying time. A commercial license and instrument rating...to say Atta had no flight experience is just flat out ignorance or a lie!
quaheedus 3 years ago
exactly, they just plain ignore the truth. There is so much background information on the terrorist while they were in the states, and they continue to deny that they even exist, then they now come up with planes not even hitting the towers in the first place. I mean I don't even know how to argue anymore with people that have such little common sense that they don't even think planes hit the bldgs, it's just crazy. I guess you just can't fix stupid
jeffmay1 3 years ago
What about Hani Hanjour. Plus, given the footage of Atta that morning, it's hard to believe that he even made it to that plane. How come none of the "perps" is on the passenger list, and 7 of them were alive months after the attack?
jupiterjjrm 3 years ago
Hani hanjour-facts- Had his pilots license,instrument rating and a commercial pilots license whci takes 250 hrs of training/experience to get! He had over 600 hours of flying time and experience! Hanjour also trained in a Boeing 737 simulator!
quaheedus 3 years ago
An acre is about 210 ft square, so one side of the building would be at least 200 feet a huge target for a plane!
quaheedus 3 years ago
I didn't make myself clear there. The Hezarkhani audeo is manipulated in that it is lifted to relpace the background noises in the "clear audio" version of the collapse of the south tower to hide the fact that the original audio was removed to add fake demolition charges.
leftysergeant 4 years ago
Oh, so the media were not scripted that day, and were in fact instrumental in setting up the Pentagon! Un-fucking-believable! Amazing the stuff one learns off YT! I repea, the calls Jeff made to Boeing don't tell you anything, nor do the ones he made to Popular Mechanics (a scientific work with NO exact references? Hmmmm) Thanks for telling me to "stop acting like a fool", but look who's talking
jupiterjjrm 4 years ago
u guys are dumb dylan avery speaks the truth but u r to much of a patriot to believe it when all the facts are stuck up strait up in your face.
6feetdownedge 4 years ago
Dumbshit Dylan doesn't even know what an aircraft crash scene looks like. Let's see that little turd explain what made those wing prints on the facade of the Pentagon.
leftysergeant 4 years ago
u better be worried about what american kids are doing in america...shooting kids and ppl in schools malls,streets,unis..etc..at least kids in afganistan dont do that ..if they carry weapons they point it to those ppl who invaded their countries...even afgani kids has more courage than ur pussy cat soldiers ..they came back from war and commit suicide...pussies ...
ibrahimtonga 4 years ago
Well said my friend. To me you are a true patriot. Never hate your government but always question it.
fawa324 4 years ago
Wait, so a bunch of pussies brought this country to a world superpower in about 150 years. Yikes, some pussies. YOu do understand that the world isnt a peachy place and if one country doesnt "rule" another will. LIsten buddy, kids in america kill other kids etc. b/c life is so easy (Relatively) in america you get bored and loose your sense of worth. So how did JORDAn and all those other Muslims countries do against lil AMerica back in the 60's??? A looser calling winners pussies, thats classic
Drew1234321 4 years ago
ok cool then ..many americans beleive or (know)that 911 was an inside job..not to mention that the majority of americans beleive that war aginst iraq was based on american lies ....dont u thik that if they FAKED reasons to attack iraq it is very possible that they faked reasons to make war in afganistan ...follow the news and u will find out the truth if u really cosider ur self a SMART ASS AMERICAN ..
ibrahimtonga 4 years ago
americans spending billions of $s on space shuttles and space projects to find out what z happening in the sapce,moon,mars..etc but they dont know what z hapening in this world or even in their country!!!!
not every american has to be as bad as we think but all arabs and muslims are terrorists and bad ppl ...is that fair ......??!!!
ibrahimtonga 4 years ago
go to hell
6feetdownedge 4 years ago
fuck u.. u lready in hell bitch
ibrahimtonga 4 years ago
another stupid,arrogant american..tell u what mate,go get drunk and stoned and listen to ur cRAP music ....
ibrahimtonga 4 years ago
911 was american made...every one beleive otherwise is totally idiot and arrogant ....war on terror all fake..hollywood drama .....
ibrahimtonga 4 years ago
no planers are the stupidest people on earth
or the people that want to fuck the world the most
either way they suck ass
911MmRy 4 years ago
AHHHHHHHHHHH The no planers. How much does the government pay you idiots?
doesntmatterdude76 4 years ago
both
ThatGuyAtTheBar 4 years ago
Quit helping the 9/11 Cover up
cbgames5 4 years ago 4
this is the stupidest video I've ever seen. How does this prove the Loose Change guys wrong or prove that 911 had no inside involvement?? it doesn't at all. show a video of points and facts being presented, instead of biased propaganda, you truth deniers really are pathetic.....think what you want of truthers....they at least have real things to say, unlike shit like this
AlexBrasil123123 4 years ago
this guy is ubelievable..fucking pissant little bastard..should be beatened to death slowly with a soft dildo
kingkong20077 4 years ago
and your stupid ass should be beaten with a lead pipe
AlexBrasil123123 4 years ago
yeah..like to see you try little snotnose..thinks ur so heroic behind your magical keyboard,,revenge the victims..start with you..
kingkong20077 4 years ago
nah, even in ur face id still talk shit, but only after i broke ur jaw....
AlexBrasil123123 4 years ago
NORAD stood down. the Patriot Act was drawn up before 9/11. explain that one.
cbgames7 4 years ago
omg, did someone in your dreams tell you that load of shit??? wat are you fucking retarded?? before 911.......yeah, and i guess the towers collapsed before the planes hit too, right??? you fucking moron
AlexBrasil123123 4 years ago