GOD Is Not A Trinity Part 1

[MyBountykilla]

Where are all these false prophets coming from and why are they so eager to be heard.I don't understand why they can't keep there logic's to themselves. Jesus spoke of His father, Jesus also spoke of the comforter,Jesus was also spoke of by Isaiah 9 as The ALMIGHTY GOD. the bible speaks it loud and clear, colossian's says Jesus represented the Godhead Bodily(trinity).1john or so says there are 3 that agree in one. Genesis says, "let us make man in our image.", Isaiah 6 says,"who shall go for us"

[loveroflife365]

God is not a family. He is ONE. Jesus Christ is another altogether. John tells us that we must confess that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who came in the flesh, I John 4:15, II John 7-11. Jesus was dead in the grave for three days and three nights. God raised him to life everlasting.

Jesus is not God. Both the trinity and binity doctrines of men are heresies of the highest degree.

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

Yes GOD is one. Jesus is the Son of GOD.

Bro Ken

[Fathersjoy]

God IS family! It´s simple, it´s perfectly logical, and it makes perfect sense! We can easily understand this perspective if we learn from earthly conditions...male female, offspring: child...it´s not difficult to understand how God is our true Father to the deepest level...He is the Father of Jesus and Father to us as well. And if there is a Father and Son there also has to be a female part...and that person is the holy Spirit!

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

Hi Nilla

Sounds logical but can we find GOD's Holy Spirit as female in HIS word?

Bro Ken

[Fathersjoy]

Yes brother Ken I believe we can! The feminine aspect of the holy Spirit is visible in God´s Word, and a wonderful truth, but first we have to recognize our true identity as spirit beings...not only after the new birth, and new creations in Christ, but also our status or state as spiritual dead.

This understanding about ourselves from God´s Word is essential and lays a foundation for a deeper insight of the nature or role of the holy Spirit.

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

I'd be very interested in verses that support the Holy Spirit is feminine. Thanks and blessings.

Bro Ken

[Fathersjoy]

Thanks for your response brother Ken! I would love to give you some verses from the Word, for you to examine them closely...

I don´t know how familiar you are with the hebrew language but you will need to see the hebrew text to check these words up, and you will find that the Spirit clearly is definied as feminine especially in the OT.

[Fathersjoy]

In NT the Spirit stands in neutrum. But since we know it is written in greek, there clearly has been a misinterpretation here.

The evidence of a feminine holy Spirit in the Word is overwhelming and it makes perfect sense when we know how the whole familyaspect comes from God.

So the verses are: Genesis 1:2, Judges 3:10, Judges 6:34 and all the other verses from Judges who speaks about "the Spirit of Yahweh"

God bless you in your examination!

[slavell19]

not one of these verses support the holyspirit as feminine

[Fathersjoy]

Thanks brother!

Your teaching is right! However we need to understand much more about the true relationship between Father Son and holy Spirit to see how they are united as three separate godly persons into the Godhead. They are acting and moving like one body, since they are perfectly one in mind will and thought. And not to mention love!

Like husband and wife.. they are ONE. To really understand this oneness is to understand the familyaspect at the same time...

[lethalwizdom]

Acts 5, John 1:1, Heb 1:6, Titus 2:13, John 8:58, Romans 9:5. Read these passages of scripture and attempt to refute them . Email me.

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

Are you asking us to refute scripture? This we would never do. We believe all scripture is inspired by GOD. If you're saying your verses support trinity, they don't, but please make your case in your reply.

Most of your verses refer to Jesus.

Acts 2:36 Made LORD and CHRIST by the Father. Also Colossians 1:15-19

Bro Ken

[ApostolicGodsChild]

lethalwizdom, i agree with churchofgod reply. They have nothing to do with a Trinity at all. We have to stay in context of the whole bible to understand who God really is.

[Yuratchka]

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[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

Hi Yuratchka

Thanks for the post. I have breifly visited your website and will do so in more detail. Your statement about the true nature of the FATHER and the Son (Messiah) on Youtube are biblical.

Like your videos on trinity we have several parts, so if you only saw partt 1 you might say "that's it?"

Blessings

Bro Ken

[Yuratchka]

O, okay, I'll watch the rest of the parts. Thanks. =)

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

Acts 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Those of the circumcision needed convincing that the uncirmcumcised gentiles could receive the Holy Ghost..so GOD used tongues as a sign for their unbelief. They were believers in the gospel, but needed their eyes open to GOD's replacing circumcision with baptism.

Bro Ken

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Hmmmm, i was thinking the same thing as well. Thank you for your opinion. I have been studying on speaking in tongues for a while and have learned much but im continueing to learn. What do you say about Mark 16: 17 were Jesus said that all will speak in tongues that believe?

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

Mark 16:17 Jesus is commanding the 11 Apostles. The gospel had to go out from Jerusalem to the world. The Apostles and the seventy would be sent. Many languages would be required as well as miracles like healing to convince unbelievers. Jesus used healing miracles in his ministry. He did not focus on tongues for His work. Paul would be chosen to go to the gentiles because of his gifts, including languages. It was very important that Paul had the gift of tongues to travel and witness.

Bro Ken

[ApostolicGodsChild]

I see

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

Back from up north. I pray all is well for you and your family.

How is your study going on tongues? What is your opinion so far?

Thanks,

Bro Ken

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Well, honestly i have been out of town myself and just got back. I will get back to you on tongues though.

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

Dear Friend

Have you uncovered any more thoughts on tongues? Also have you put together your video on trinity?

Thannks and bless you.

Bro Ken

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Praise the Lord bro, I haven't been able to look up any new information about tongues but i am still working on my vid about the Trinity, It might not be done until November.

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

Thanks for your vs. It is wonderful to be deep in GOD's word. This is how we reason together. Clearly you desire to know GOD and HIS Son as best as possible. Let's continue to use HIS word to reveal truth.

BTW, you may be interested in knowing the the Church of GOD is Apostolic. Jesus is alive & doesn't need a president/pope over His church. Apostles/seventy/seven are chosen by lot, to edifying and build the church into a glorious body for Christ.

GOD bless you and your family.

Bro Ken

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Amen brother, stand strong on Gods word.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

I don't believe in the Trinity either but i do believe that Jesus is the one true God in the flesh. What about you?

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

Hi .........Thanks for your thought. Could you elaborate a little more on what you mean? Perhaps also a sripture that brings out your thought? Thanks.

Bro Ken

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Actually, i m making a playlist proving the trinity incorrect and also proving that God who we call Father is the only God and Jesus Christ is the word which came out of Gods mouth thus proving that Jesus is God by spirit, and the son by humanity (being born of a human). I will send it to you when i am finished gathering all my information. It is very informative and i believe it will help many peoples understandings. Ill try to make the playlist by the end of this month. God bless

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

Sounds excellent. I am looking forward to seeing it.

Bro Ken

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Oops bro, i made an error when i said that Jesus is the Son according to the flesh. We cannot seperate the natures of Jesus because if we did, then that is Nestorianism in which im not and many fall into this catagory. According to Isaiah 55: 10-11, God sent his word which proceeded OUT OF HIS MOUTH, not beside him as trinitarians say. This is why Jesus said, he proceeded from God (John 8:42) and also this is the glory that he had with God before the world was (John 17: 5)

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[ApostolicGodsChild]

The trinity doctrine is so easy to refute its rediculous, lol. The only true God is God our Father who became a literal Father when Jesus was born (John 17: 3, 1 cor 8: 6, Eph 4: 6). There is no God beside him and the word which we know to be Jesus preceeded out of his mouth. this is also why Jesus only speaks what he hears God speak (John 8:28). God bless brother and keep up the good work in Christ.

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

It's wonderful when we can come to know GOD & HIS Son better. Unfortunatley many are decieved by the trinitarian teaching.

Please keep your thoughts and verses coming. Our church has an open creed and we enjoy biblical discussion. We let scripture settle all doctrinal matters.

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

Yes, this is good and correct that GOD's Word proceeded from HIS mouth.

Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

Bro Ken

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Amen bro, i love talking about Gods word and also debating, that is if they want to, lol. I have a question. What do you believe about speaking in tongues? do you believe its the evidence ot the infilling of the Holy Ghost?

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Acts 2:8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

GOD used these many foreign languages as a sign to show unbelievers around that these men received the power of the Holy Spirit.

1 Corinthians 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not:

WHat do you think my friend?

Bro Ken

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Im just curious because in Acts 10: 44-46, Acts 19: 1-7, there were no interpretations or any unbelievers around, yet they spoke in tongues. So from what i get out of the scriptures, there are two manifestations of tongues. 1 is the evidence of the infilling of the spirit. 2 is the gift of tongues used in church. please correct me if im wrong.

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

Acts 19 1-7 In this chapter you see many Jews in Ephesus. Detail is not there but likely the same need for the speaking of tongues as in Acts 10. Paul sets all straight in 1Cor chpr 13 & 14. They were too charismatic and needed set in order. GOD is not a GOD of confusion. Charity (love) and prophecy are greater spiritual fruit than speaking languages. Tongues is good with an interpreter or someone of that language. Paul spoke Hebrew, Aramaic possibly Greek, was a Roman

Bro Ken

[ApostolicGodsChild]

true

[ChurchofGOD7thDay]

I'll be in N/Ontario for 4 days with very limited access to internet. I'll do my best to answer any posts when I return. You have a very gentle spirit, easy to communicate with. I pray for GOD to bless you in your deep search of the scriptures. HE will answer all your sincere questions.

GOD bless.

Bro Ken

[ApostolicGodsChild]

amen, have fun

[ApostolicGodsChild]

In my videos i will first look at the OT because once we understand the God of the OT, then the words of Jesus become more clear. Jesus never was God the Son and never will be. He is the Son of God according to the flesh (Heb 1: 4, Rom 1: 3, Gal 4:4). When God sent his word, he did not send it as a Son, he sent it as the word and the word became flesh (John 1: 14) through Mary. Thus resulting in the Son of God. Jesus is God in the flesh (1 Tim 3: 16, 1 Cor 5: 19 etc.).

Are you JW?